[00:39] ... [00:51] ...? [02:37] Hello. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [04:17] it seems that xubuntu doesn't come with a font viewer by default? All the ones I've installed are full-blown font managers [04:17] I just want a program that shows me a sample of the font when I double-click it. There's one in ubuntu, anyone know the package name? :) [04:24] if you make the icons bigger you can see the sample on the file icon [04:29] Soupermanito, that's not really a fix and looks bad on my netbook :) [04:29] mmm [04:29] lemme do some research [04:37] xrdodrx, if you only want to see the font you have already installed you can download this http://code.google.com/p/gfont-viewer/ [04:38] it works, not to add new fonts and stuff unles you gksu it [04:38] still searching for one that provides live sampling [04:38] I just want to be able to open a font and see a preview [04:38] it's in ubuntu, I know it [04:39] Soupermanito, ex http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MfwRx_4ERx8/S-cYVWgbQII/AAAAAAAABwM/1qoUUpRBErM/s400/install-fonts-in-Ubuntu.jpg [04:40] yes, i know what you want, its just that i havent found it yet :P thats why i gave you the thing i did found [04:41] oh, sorry, i thought you misunderstood xD === dan__ is now known as dan_l [05:17] morning [05:19] night [05:19] depends on when you are [05:20] I'm doing my first xubuntu install in the hopes that it doesn't break my display like ubuntu 10.04 did [05:20] :) [05:20] err, 11.04 [05:20] hope you are lucky [05:21] * Soupermanito : Xubuntu free of unity since ever! [05:22] yeah, I think it was the unity UI that broke it. === Captainkrtek1 is now known as Captainkrtek [05:26] or at least the changes to the x server for unity === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:32] xrdodrx, soooo the gnome thing [05:33] is called gnome-font-viewer, and is part of the gnome-control-center === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:09] How smoothy does the upgrade feature work? [08:31] you're talking about the distro upgrade? [08:33] http://launchpad.net/bugs/673489 Seems to be the only bug report on it (10.10 > 11.04) [08:33] Ubuntu bug 673489 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal cursor opaque / not inverting" [Low,Triaged] [08:34] remove custom packages from PPAs to avoid unnecessary conflict with dependencies [08:34] that's for every major upgrade [12:58] hello, i am just installing xubuntu. really excited. nice job guys! [13:00] i noticed that there is no multiple monitors setup in Settings Manager, i fixed it now with running xrandr by hand. is fixing xorg.conf my only option on setting permanent configuration for dual monitors? [13:03] off to reboot into installed xubuntu. yeaaa [13:19] o/ [13:21] https://pzt.me/46l0 how to fix this? [13:21] jozefk, how about some synopsis [13:22] synopsis? [13:22] a brief description of your issue. [13:25] ok. this is xubuntu 11.04 x64, and this happened after I enables source code in repositories settings. the server I'm using is in France. after hitting the Reload I got this famous error message [13:28] if I disable back the source code - no error [13:29] why would you need the src [13:30] those error message in synaptic are driving me crazy for long time and already couple of times pushed me aways from ubuntu and ubuntu based distros. I want to make bootable USB flash drive xubuntu for installing it on netbook and in instructions it is mentioned that it is advisable to have source code enabled [13:31] not really [13:32] what are they there for by the way? [13:32] the source code in repository? what is it for? [13:32] some 3rd party tutorial? [13:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [13:32] if you want to build from source [13:33] Make sure the software-sources are activated if you are on a LiveCD (software sources or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list). You may need to install the python-gnome2 package as well. [13:33] never needed to use it. you used unetbootin? [13:33] python-gnome2 is installed by default [13:33] !info unetbootin [13:33] unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 471-2ubuntu1 (natty), package size 276 kB, installed size 820 kB [13:33] not yet unetbootin. will try first usb-creator [13:34] I'd skip that and go straight for unetbootin [13:34] usb-creator is installed by default as well [13:34] so is empathy for irc [13:34] empathy for IRC? [13:35] default hardly means the best tool [13:35] its terrible for IRC [13:35] I don't even know empathy is working for IRC [13:35] yet it is default [13:35] well you mentioned :)) [13:35] I use xchat [13:35] same [13:35] it's the no.1 :) [13:36] the sane ones are NOT default for some reason [13:36] like usb-creator-gtk over unetbootin [13:36] then how the default apps are becoming default? what is the criterium? [13:37] they* [13:37] lord only knows [13:37] give usb-creator a shot, then if it does not do it, try unetbootin [13:38] sometimes it takes more than one try, or it seems like it has stopped at 5%, but its worth the wait [13:38] it'll go from 5% finished to 65% finished right when you are starting to look at the clock [13:39] ok I'll try [13:39] good luck :) [13:41] I just start it and after few seconds it's already 50% [13:41] :)) [13:42] I'm still having my same font-viewer pdoblem as last night...what I want to do is doule click a font _I have not installed_ and see a preview of it. every font manager I can find is overly complex and only displays installed fonts [13:42] !info font-manager [13:42] font-manager (source: font-manager): font management application for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7-3 (natty), package size 623 kB, installed size 1584 kB [13:43] I was recommeded the package "gnome-control-center", but it has absurd dependencies, like gwibber [13:43] gnome, but still installable by xubuntu [13:43] bazhang, I tried that, it doesn't do it [13:43] It shows installed fonts [13:43] does font matrix works for GTK? [13:43] do what [13:44] apt-cache search font [13:44] I want this: http://geekyprojects.com/wp-admin/images/05-01-11-install-fonts-ubuntu/install-fonts-ubuntu-02.gif [13:44] no more than that lol [13:44] it's in the default ubuntu distro [13:45] I'd go so far as to install kde's font installer, but I can't find the package name [13:45] I think this is a bbug in xubuntu [13:46] what does apt-cache search font turn up in that regard [13:46] finish :D [13:46] let's see where is that netbook :))) [13:48] bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/614167/ [13:49] xrdodrx, no need to paste that, I can d o it in terminal here [13:49] sorry :( [13:50] of course it does not work :D [13:51] info tkfont [13:51] whoops [13:52] how simple is PXE install? [13:52] depends [13:53] I'd give the usb-creator another shot, then try unetbootin [13:54] I will try first to see if it is bootable that usb flash. because I got the message: Operating system is missing :) [13:54] I had so many problem with USB I invested in an external optical drive [13:54] I have external optical drive :) [13:54] but usb is faster [13:54] it's great, and now I can watch my netflix disks on my netbook :D [13:54] and usually it works [13:55] bazhang, tkfont? [13:55] xrdodrx, could be [13:56] PXE seems kind of complicated [13:56] or I'm lazy to read now. maybe both :) [13:58] I'll try to format that flash drive and do another usb-creator [13:58] DESCRIPTION [13:58] tkfont allows you to view the various fonts in X11. It displays a list of fonts, you can then pick which one to display. Useful to find a nice font to use. [13:58] bazhang, no, that's not it at all x( [13:59] I wish ubuntu's font viewer was installable [13:59] :) [14:02] :D! [14:02] I figured it out [14:02] you can install the "imagemagick" package [14:03] then from terminal "display example.ttf" [14:03] Now if I could just integrate this into thunar [14:05] oh boy you are right XFCE doesn't shows fonts :D [14:05] lol it's silly really [14:05] it is shitty really :D [14:06] did you try fontmatrix? [14:06] way too much, jozefk [14:07] I use it often [14:07] too much? [14:07] then what's wrong? [14:07] but just to display a sample of a font [14:07] yeah you are right :) [14:07] maybe opcion [14:07] it's kind of java app [14:08] I don't know. in KDE you can see the fonts with font manager or somthing like that. don't know what it is called but it is in seetings [14:08] and it shows the fonts very nicely [14:08] here's display from imagemagick: http://i.imgur.com/vGuy0.png [14:09] I just need to get thunar to work with it [14:09] so imagemagick works [14:09] and maybe change the default text [14:09] correct, very nicely :) [14:09] thunar? I don't know how to do that. I didn't even know fonts can't be seen in xfce by default [14:12] 2nd try with usb-creator failed [14:13] now unetbootin :) [14:22] yes unetbootin stacked at 5% as you said it will [14:26] same message. not working [14:27] I'll just go for external dvd rom really [14:27] it will save my time I'm sure === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === Soupermanito is now known as Exioma === Exioma is now known as Exio- === Soupermanito is now known as Exio- [19:48] Sometimes an empty window name "Debconf on " appears for a second and desappear [19:53] thats weird [19:53] sss314, same [19:54] happens when installing stuff from software center, right? [19:54] happens to me all the time when installing software, only in software center lol [19:55] xrdodrx, yes, when using the software center [19:55] also Soupermanito [19:56] I found a really cool way to fix my font display thing [19:56] sss314, I guess it's a bug, thought I was the only one tbh [19:58] sss314, xrdodrx probably is not a bug, just something that runs while installing [19:59] Soupermanito, It shows a blank gray windows and then it disappears after one second [19:59] Soupermanito, it's a bug that it flashes around 5 on every new software install instead of running silently [19:59] so yes, it's a bug :| [19:59] oh well [19:59] never happened to me [20:00] i never use software-center.. [20:00] so how do you fixed the font thingy xrdodrx [20:00] Soupermanito, imagemagick's 'display' command [20:01] D: [20:01] I recompiled imagemagick with a different string so now it says "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" instead of the default saying [20:01] :D [20:01] s/jumped/jumps [20:01] ah [20:01] yeah i see [20:01] (c) KDE [20:02] or is it general GNU [20:02] you know you can install fontforge and it comes whit a preview tool === dan__ is now known as dan_l [20:03] Soupermanito, that's silly and not the same at all [20:03] I have fontforge but it can't run and automatically display a preview just from opening a font file in thunar [20:03] also, compiling imagemagick so it shows like this was fun :D [20:04] http://i.imgur.com/Ymx1h.png [20:04] i preview fonts by setting them as system font and keeping it like that for a week [20:04] o.o [20:04] xrdodrx, yes, yes it can [20:04] i tried it [20:04] i don't fiddle with fonts very much [20:05] Sysi, you don't have collections of like 3000 fonts though xD [20:05] Soupermanito, command? [20:05] Also the fontforge in the ubuntu repos is a year out of date :s [20:05] I always end up compiling that too [20:05] open whit> fontforge [20:06] Soupermanito, :| [20:07] xrdodrx, http://imagebin.org/155654 [20:07] That;s slower than imagemagick and imo it's a little silly to open it in a font editing tool just to display a font preview [20:08] but to each his own [20:08] :3 [20:08] it works :P [20:09] oh but display works pretty neath [20:09] I didn't like the default string because it didn't show all the characters [20:09] And there was no command line switch to change it either, it's hard-coded in :/ [20:10] oh [20:11] so you hardchanged it [20:11] yeah [20:11] and then recompiled imagemagick [20:11] *lol* [20:11] you know what XD i can open it whit irfanview using wine [20:11] XD [20:11] :( [20:11] why would you do that [20:11] that's the least efficient way so far lol [20:13] XD [20:13] hahaha it probably is, but then again i use irfanview as my default viewer [20:14] http://imagebin.org/155655 [20:14] i should find out how to use custom font on webpage.. [20:15] [20:15] XD [20:15] Sysi, CSS is the preferred way [20:15] aren't there many native font previewers? dolphin shows them as thumbnails [20:15] Sysi, one would think [20:15] but there aren't any. [20:15] xrdodrx: but where i need to place that font [20:16] Sysi, I don't really understand the question...you can use CSS if the font is going to be installed on both machines just by declaring [20:16] font-family: DejaVu Sans [20:16] for instance [20:16] but if i want some random font [20:16] or you can use a .woff webfont, but only if it's a libre font because of licensing [20:17] you can use fontforge to convert any font to .woff format [20:17] ..luckily it doesn't matter that much [20:23] IdleOne, seems like you like Dynasty Warriors :P [20:23] xrdodrx: I'm an old time arcade player :) [20:23] you can't imagine how many quarters I put into that game [20:31] hi can i turn off the dock in xubuntu 11.04?? [20:32] yes [20:32] how? [20:32] remove the bottom panel? usually by removing panel 2 [20:32] its a panel, be aware if you do that you wont get it back [20:32] lol silly me duh [20:32] thanks :) [20:32] not really a dock, we faked it [20:33] you work on xbunt? [20:33] who? [20:33] you [20:33] no, I don't do any packaging or development, myself. I do some testing and bugs, though [20:33] ohh ok :0 [20:33] :) [20:34] And I might be the project leaer [20:34] And I might be the project leader [20:34] just never let them make a real dock and you cant turn it off [20:34] heh [20:35] we just follow the lead that Xfce sets up [20:35] They made the panels work really good for us [20:35] ohh ok:) [20:35] and ochosi, the guy that really did the work on it. [20:35] so you project leader of xubuntu? [20:35] yes [20:36] wow cool :) [20:36] can i ask you something? [20:36] jimrew, yeah, it's a pretty small community but it's lately my favorite linux distro :D [20:36] sure [20:36] and I've used a lot of em :) [20:36] will you put in libreoffce [20:36] You can always ask. I answer if I can. :-) [20:36] nope [20:37] why? [20:37] jimrew, no, you can install it from the software center, it's too large of a package and is no good on slow systems [20:37] libreoffice does not conform to the lightweight design we are looking for [20:37] ohh ok [20:37] We put in abiword and gnumeric because they use less disk space and ram [20:37] Also, here's a good thing about xfce [20:37] when you install it you don't get the libreoffice-gtk package [20:38] You can add any application in the repositories, though [20:38] so you can choose your own theme and it won't carry over to libreoffice if it's dark [20:38] :D [20:38] im useing xbuntu and kubuntu becuse i dont like gnome 3 [20:38] I have used Xubuntu since it came out in 2006 [20:38] wow [20:38] xubuntu is very good :) [20:38] I do test Ubuntu and Kubuntu, though [20:39] unity and gnome 3 to much RAM [20:40] yup, for some machines [20:40] is it ok if i add you to bud list i got to go [20:40] sure, but it is best to come in here and ask things. [20:41] ok bye :) [20:41] i like xubuntu :) bye [20:43] * charlie-tca going hide again now [21:40] hey guys, on a fresh install of xubuntu, I'm having an issue where I have to click above things: the cursor isn't accurate. Is there a simple fix? [21:44] >accurate? [21:44] okay, I'll try to be more precise. To click on a button, I must be about 3cm above it [21:45] this goes for anything and everything I need to click on [21:46] really weird, did you try relogin/reboot? [21:46] updates installed? [21:46] sounds like something that happened to me ages ago on X [21:47] updates are not yet installed [21:47] but I got the iso today [21:47] from the official US archive [21:47] EpicCyndaquil, you should update your video drivers [21:47] gksu jockey-gtk [21:47] and choose the best ones [21:48] I tried to fix with the experimental 3d nvidia driver it suggested, did not help, but I'll see what that throws at me [21:49] yep, that's all it shows [21:49] and it's active [21:50] looks like there's an X update, I'll just hope that fixes it [21:50] my laptop is on an Ubuntu 10.10 base with xubuntu-desktop, so I wasn't sure if this was an 11.04 issue [21:51] If a restart doesn't fix it, try either renaming or removing ~/.config. You will have to re-do all the customizations for the desktop and panels, but it might fix it. [21:53] I haven't done any custom config yet. It's also worth noting that the top bar seems to be off: it's too tall (blank space at the top) and seems to be too much toward the left and has begun to mirror? [21:56] You upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 11.04? [21:57] not on this computer [21:57] that was regarding another, apologies [21:58] and restart didn't fix, so I'll try killing ~/.config [21:59] trying another restart.... [22:00] same issues. [22:02] any other ideas? [22:02] have you tried propietary driver? or currently using it [22:03] I've tried it, can try again if you'd like [22:03] no visual difference between the two [22:05] the whole screen positioning seems off, honestly [22:07] the bottom userbar is too low, can only see about half of it [22:08] maybe I'll try playing with some compiz settings in a bit, otherwise I'm clueless [22:16] reset your monitor? [22:16] the issue with that is that I'm dual-booting with Windows XP, can't reset it every time [22:16] MIne has a button to adjust it, pushing it fixes that "not quite on the monitor thing" [22:16] I suppose I could try [22:17] but again, it's not my computer, and having to push a monitor button might frustrate this person. [22:17] how do i enable compiz in xfce? [22:17] EpicCyndaquil: then maybe this is not for them? [22:18] how do i enable compiz in xfce? [22:18] jimrew: install first, then I think you use compiz --replace to run it in place of xfwm [22:19] ok :) [22:21] ah, maybe I should try that on this computer... [22:21] (compiz instead of xfwm) [22:23] interestingly, it seems Windows XP is booting faster than xubuntu [22:23] my mind is blown [22:23] ten year old OS, should fly on modern hardware [22:24] too bad usability and security sucks [22:24] did you count loggin in, AV installed? [22:26] i got it to work but the window butons go away and i cant make it stay on after restart [22:28] hello? [22:29] yeah [22:29] i got it to work but the window butons go away and i cant make it stay on after restart [22:29] no idea. Maybe the window buttons are tied to unity now? [22:29] I have never tried to use compiz, myself [22:29] you need compiz-plugin for window decorations [22:30] it stays on reboot if you rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and then save session on logout [22:31] ok just a sec [23:49] ok so, i have vlc volume at 400% and all the alsamixer or xfce4-mixer at 100 and still volume is awfully low