=== tazz_ is now known as tazz [00:06] *facepalm* [00:21] debfx: around? [00:40] debfx: Quintasan JontheEchidna i've pushed my kdelibs branch over here : https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kdelibs/ubuntu [00:41] now i'm off to study for my last couple of exams :) [00:41] cya [00:43] FYI, Bug #789708 [00:43] Launchpad bug 789708 in natty-backports "Please backport pkg-kde-tools 0.14.0ubuntu1 from Oneiric to Natty" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789708 [00:48] this is horrifying: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/05/28/ubuntu-uk-loco-cds/ [00:49] :'( [00:52] Someone who lives on the relevant island should arrange a rescue. [00:52] Where is Riddell when you really need him? [00:55] AlanBell actually runs kubuntu, at least sometimes [00:55] he's just exposing the hens to good computing! [00:56] Maybe time for seaLne to the rescue ... [00:56] lol [00:58] So it's definitely after 0001UTC, right? [00:59] No. 3 more minutes [00:59] Two even [01:00] So I can finish the KC election as soon as we hit Sunday UTC. [01:01] how many voted, ScottK? [01:01] * ScottK decides to wait an extra minute or two in case someone saw that and went "oops, forgot to votee." [01:02] thank you for running the election, btw [01:02] 34 of 57 eligible. [01:02] No problem. The only annoying part was getting the email addresses out of LP. [01:02] No one voted in the last two or three days. [01:02] indeed [01:02] hmmm, just over half [01:03] voting like Americans [01:03] Not bad considering many of them aren't very active anymore. [01:03] OK. Time. [01:03] http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_714f581d4fc2dad7 [01:04] Congratulations apachelogger, JontheEchidna, and DarkwingDuck === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Merging KDE 4.6.3 from Debian | Merges: https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | TODO: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Congratulations to our re-elected overlords apachelogger and JontheEchidna and new overlord DarkwingDuck [01:06] * DarkwingDuck chuckles [01:14] OK. Results announced. [01:17] DarkwingDuck: Since you're the newbie, you get to schedule a meeting for next week to review/approve specs and process any memberships. [01:18] Doodle poll is the usual method. [01:21] I mailed Riddell and asked him to adjust team membership. [01:27] w00t! congrats to apachelogger DarkwingDuck and JontheEchidna !! [01:28] Unsubscribed from kubuntu-users ML. If anyone from there bitches about the election and I need to know, someone please tell me. [01:30] apachelogger: While your busy not setting up the ice cream magic on our arm boxes, would you please have a look at Bug #773062 and see if maybe there's a fix we can cherrypick for an SRU? [01:31] Launchpad bug 773062 in cmake (Ubuntu) "cmake does not work well with ccache" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773062 [02:04] ScottK: from the lack of any response to the poll om the -users list, should be no problem. Heck not many Kubuntu users in there imo lol [02:05] also lack of response in the forums iirc as well, tho most there do use kubuntu :D [02:05] Yeah, I didn't figure it was high risk to go ahead and unsubscribe. [06:58] Hey, popping in here for two things, first is, I wanted to say thanks for all your work on Kubuntu, its my favorite OS since I picked it up, so yeah. thanks! [06:59] Thanks. [07:34] aww, seems no one likes poor old me :( [07:34] but seriously, congrats to apachelogger, DarkwingDuck and JontheEchidna :D [08:12] apachelogger, DarkwingDuck, JontheEchidna: congratulations :D [09:15] morning [09:25] JontheEchidna: when you write "in bzr" on merges.u.c , what do you mean ? I don't find these packages into our repositories (kubuntu-ninjas, kubuntu-ppa) [09:27] that should be lp:~kubuntu-packagers//ubuntu [09:27] bzr means bzr, not PPA [09:34] ah o_O [09:34] that's why I did not find them... xD [09:35] apachelogger, JontheEchidna, DarkwingDuck: Grats [10:04] ScottK: Thanks for running the elections [10:41] debfx, ScottK: what package were you talking about WRT update-alternatives > dpkg-divert and debconf? [10:41] apachelogger: kdesudo [10:41] apachelogger, JontheEchidna, DarkwingDuck: congrats btw ;) [10:41] but I think we should keep update-alternatives [10:42] uhm, overlord again \o/ [10:42] * apachelogger hugs the members [10:47] debfx: we are upstream to debian, if debian thinks diverging from upstraem is good then that is not our fault :P [10:48] incidentially there is a good reason for using update-alternatives ... try looking for divert kdesudo on launchpad bugs [10:48] there are approx 5000000 of those [10:48] there constantly went stuff wrong, making the kdebase/runtime upgrade fail ever so often [10:58] JontheEchidna, DarkwingDuck: congrats [12:21] the debian version for kdenetwork contains this .install file http://paste.ubuntu.com/614523/ [12:21] however, these files are not built and do not exist in debian/tmp/ o_O [12:22] (fileshare_propsdlgplugin.so and kcm_kcmsambaconf.so for example) [12:22] and the only patch in debian/patches has nothing to do with that... wtf ? [12:24] afaik we have backported samba related stuff form 4.7 [12:49] ScottK: that cmake bug looks like fun btw [12:50] also I do not think it is a cmake issue at all [12:50] or perhaps it is, but only partially [12:51] in particular it is probably falling over the fact that cxx has a cmd and a arg, which generally speaking of course is a bit of a bogus situation [12:55] yeah [12:55] gcc got three args with -d [12:55] cmake does not call either [12:56] * apachelogger runs cmake with tracing [12:57] /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/Platform/UnixPaths.cmake(32): EXECUTE_PROCESS(COMMAND dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH OUTPUT_VARIABLE CMAKE_ARCH_TRIPLET OUTPUT_STRIP_TRAILING_WHITESPACE ) [12:57] Called from: [4] /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/Platform/UnixPaths.cmake [12:57] [3] /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/Platform/Linux.cmake [12:57] [2] /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/CMakeSystemSpecificInformation.cmake [12:57] [1] /home/me/src/git/libechonest/CMakeLists.txt [12:57] /usr/bin/ccache: invalid option -- 'd' [12:57] 5 bucks that call comes from a patch [12:57] eh, why do we have a security patch from 2009 in kde4libs that is not applied upstream :O [12:57] me@osiris:/tmp/cmake-2.8.4+dfsg.1$ grep -ri dpkg-architecture . [12:57] ./debian/patches/ubuntu_multiarch_library_directory.diff:+EXECUTE_PROCESS(COMMAND dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH OUTPUT_VARIABLE CMAKE_ARCH_TRIPLET OUTPUT_STRIP_TRAILING_WHITESPACE) [12:58] jr strikes again :P [12:58] what's wrong with it? [12:59] well, it causes ccache -dumpmachine to be called [12:59] leading to an eror in ccache [12:59] as obviously the call should be ccache gcc -dumpinfo [12:59] eh [12:59] dumpmachine [13:01] debfx: perhaps the patch was applied differently upstream? [13:01] it wasn't applied at all, upstream doesn't care about multiarch (yet?) [13:03] how does ccache hook into the buildsystem? does it modify $PATH? [13:05] no [13:05] you set a new CXX and CC env var [13:06] debfx: multiarch is something gcc, that should totally be implemented in cmake upstream [13:06] anyhow [13:06] for some reason dpkg-architecture calls: [13:06] execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "${CC:-gcc} -dumpmachine"], [/* 50 vars */]) = 0 [13:06] resulting in [13:06] execve("/usr/bin/ccache", ["/usr/bin/ccache", "-dumpmachine"], [/* 50 vars */]) = 0 [13:06] which then produces crap outs [13:08] I believe cmake pokes the env around a bit [13:08] I know that it definitely stores CC/CXX as a combo of command + argN [13:09] so if cmake were to set its envrionemnt so that CC only contains the command and no the arg (which is generally sane behaviour I suppose), that would screw over the poor old dpkg-architecture [13:21] merging is so confusing :/ [13:35] debfx: I was talking about this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/614543/ ? [13:37] bambee: yes, that patch clearly removes those kcms [13:41] kde4libs is almost ready [13:42] debfx: I know, but this is the patch commited into kubuntu-packagers/kdenetwork/ubuntu :D [13:42] look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kdenetwork/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_05_samba_sharing.diff then [13:43] - should be replaced by + I guess [13:46] why is that? [13:46] but it reminds me, we need to adapt that patch to call qapt [13:48] bambee: that patch removes some old crappy kcms and adds a new plugin [14:00] does someone know if there's a reason kdesdk is built against an explicit version of boost in kubuntu? [14:03] debfx: ohh I understood. the debian kdenetwork-filesharing.install is too old [14:04] debian kde team did not backport this patch ? [14:08] well apparently not [14:09] we added that ourselves, ask them if they want the patch [14:10] they might not even know it exists [14:11] ok [14:14] c2tarun: Tarun K. Mall (c2tarun) has accepted the invitation to make Kubuntu [14:14] Mobile Team (kubuntu-mobile) a member of UBUNTU - AL (linux-traipu). [14:14] WTH [14:14] ? [14:14] ?? [14:14] apachelogger: actually I dont exactly know what is it. I thought you guys are starting something new [14:15] all ninjas are kubuntu-mobile admins for some reason, you usually shouldn't touch it [14:15] c2tarun: in that case you probably should not touch things? [14:16] yofel, apachelogger: sorrrryyy :( [14:17] apachelogger: sorry, this question might be irrelevant for this channel, but I dont know where to ask. being a KDE-developer is there a way to directly contribute to kubuntu? [14:18] yofel: can you undo this, because I can't for one reason or another [14:18] let me try... [14:18] rbelem: could you please transfer ownership of ~kubuntu-mobile to kubuntu-members or kubuntu-council [14:21] hm, kubuntu-kdesudo also could use an ownership change [14:22] wgrant: can you poke https://launchpad.net/~linux-traipu in the nose or something for inviting half of launchpad teams to become member? [14:23] meh, I don't get how to leave the team either :S [14:23] ah [14:23] kubuntu-dev and kubuntu-ninjas are admin of kubuntu-mobile [14:23] that is bogus [14:24] at least make that members, not ninjas. Ninjas have nothing to do with -mobile [14:25] well [14:25] quite frankly I do not see the point in having members be admin [14:25] true [14:25] dev and council as admin should be sufficient, members as member of the team [14:26] there is big issue of trust with the ninjas team as anyone willing enough can become member, thus having ninjas have access to anything official direclty is a dangerous thing IMHO [14:27] yofel: I think launchpad has a usability fail ^^ [14:27] agreed [14:28] ah well [14:29] kubuntu-members membership is not even necessary [14:29] kubuntu-mobile has no branches [14:29] so other than a sense of belonging therewould not be much gain [14:30] yofel: http://www.mail-archive.com/launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net/msg01646.html [14:30] wth [14:31] I'm getting tired of the answer to crappy usability being "But rest assured, you can do it by API!" *-.- [14:33] * apachelogger files launchpad question [14:36] * ryanakca thinks the admin of the UBUNTU - AL team needs a talking to. I don't understand why he's invited some twenty or so unrelated teams to join. [14:38] debfx: how about we retire kdesudo and make kdesu work properly instead? [14:39] ryanakca: interestingly enough I believe this very much a scam [14:39] https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kdenetwork/debian-merge-4.6 <--- Do I propose a merge ? (into kubuntu-packagers/kdenetwork/ubuntu) [14:40] bambee: changelog is crap [14:40] ryanakca: calling the team a loco while it is not actually a loco is not very reassuring [14:41] also the excessive use of capslock even though it is not capslockday makes me eyes burn [14:41] yofel: I need to merge the debian changelog too ? (at least for 4.6.3) [14:41] a) you didn't use merge-changelog b) junk my UNRELEASED changelog and keep what's necessary from there [14:43] I don't know what merge-changelog is [14:45] * bambee slaps himself and installs ubuntu-dev-tools ^^ [14:45] a script that merges the ubuntu changelog with the debian changelog [14:46] so the changelog entries are in the right order === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [15:12] yofel: done [15:13] apachelogger: *nod* [15:13] bambee: remove my 4.6.3-0ubuntu1 changelog and add what you think is needed from there to your changelog [15:13] bambee: you didn't keep any of our changes? [15:14] I kept our changes [15:14] your changelog doesn't say that, see 4:4.5.2-0ubuntu1 changelog [15:14] ok [15:15] you changelog entry should list all changes between our package and the debian one [15:15] *your [15:19] apachelogger: upstream kdesu is quite scary [15:22] so I guess we'll drop the patch numbering as well to be consistent with debian [15:25] was just wondering the same as I'm merging kdesdk patches right now [15:26] so from kubuntu_01_name to kubuntu_name ? [15:26] yofel: yep [15:40] yofel: something like that ? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bambi/kdenetwork/debian-merge-4.6/view/head:/debian/changelog :) [15:42] change "Merge with Debian git remaining changes" into "Merge with Debian. Remaining changes:" - this is a regular merge, not from git. [15:42] also remove Taruns changes, all of that was done in debian. Also drop my first entry [15:43] bambee: why do you have "- Bump Standards-Version to 3.9.2; no changes needed." in your changelog o.O? [15:43] I just merged this change from debian [15:43] don't know :\ [15:44] urgh, you misunderstood something. Your changelog should have all changes that WE applied to the DEBIAN package [15:44] meaning the diff between 4.6.3-1 and 4.6.3-1ubuntu1 [15:45] since you used the debian package and applied all changes that we want to keep to it [15:52] yofel: I just added changes from debian into our package. so there are no remaining changes. All our previous changes are listed in this changelog [15:52] (like our patches) [15:53] which means you did the wrong way, you don't apply the debian changes to our package, you take the debian package and apply our changes to it [15:53] since the ideal case would be dumping our package and using the debian one [15:54] so start with: pull-debian-source kdenetwork [15:54] and apply our changes to the package [15:55] no I downloaded our changes (ie bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdenetwork/ubuntu), compute differences between kdenetwork/ubuntu and kdenetwork/debian and apply these changes into kdenetwork/ubuntu (into my own branch) [15:55] s/our changes/ our debian directory/ [15:55] bambee meant: "no I downloaded our debian directory (ie bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdenetwork/ubuntu), compute differences between kdenetwork/ubuntu and kdenetwork/debian and apply these changes into kdenetwork/ubuntu (into my own branch)" [15:56] hm, meaning you took the diff, threw our debian/ folder away and applied the diff to the debain/ folder from debian and then commited that into bzr? [15:56] debfx: yeah, i was wondering why the CVE wasn't applied upstream [15:57] well, let me look at the other files, but at least the changelog is wrong [15:59] * debfx uploads kde4libs [15:59] w00t [15:59] yofel: basically, I did "diff -u ", I only took the interesting changes, and then I applied them to our debian (from kubuntu) [15:59] \o/ [16:00] debfx: anything else that needed changing? [16:00] bambee: wrong way, you take the diff, and apply anything interesting to the debian folder (from DEBIAN!!) [16:00] ( that diff is HUGE ) [16:00] we want the debian package, except whatever changes we really need to keep [16:01] :\ [16:01] bambee: you should read the merging procedure on the wiki :) [16:02] merging is one PITA [16:02] yeah, spent half the day merging kdesdk :/ [16:02] there are like a bazillion things that can go wrong [16:02] yofel: i spent 2 nights on kde4libs xD [16:03] yeah, I noticed that much [16:03] and now i'm all sorts of unprepared for tommorows exam :P [16:04] debfx: did you push to bzr as well? [16:04] and kdelibs bzr needs upgrading btw [16:04] shadeslayer: I had to change quite a few things [16:04] to what? [16:04] yofel: newer bzr format [16:05] debfx: oh .. minor/major mistakes? [16:05] shadeslayer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging ? [16:05] bambee: yes [16:05] ok [16:05] thanks [16:05] np :) [16:06] * yofel backports pkg-kde-tools for natty into ninjas [16:06] yofel: wait, wasn't pkg-kde-tools going into backports? [16:06] I said ninjas, put it wherever you want later [16:07] sorry but.. if we apply the above changes to the debian folder from debian.org... why commit them into bzr ? [16:07] but I can't testbuild anything right now with natty having too old pkg-kde-tools and oneiric not having all 4.6.3 deps for kdesdk right now [16:07] yofel: no i mean, pkg-kde-tools was going into ubuntu-backports [16:07] * bambee is reading the wiki [16:07] ah, I don't have that enabled here, lemme check [16:07] afaik it's not been uploaded to ubuntu-backports yet [16:08] it's not, and I need it now [16:08] alright [16:10] shadeslayer: that's the diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/614581/ [16:11] debfx: diff from my merge? or diff from debian? [16:11] from your merge [16:11] ( my internet connection is complete crap right now ) [16:11] wow [16:13] why did you drop the kde4libs (4:4.4.1-1) experimental; urgency=low entry? or was that twice in there? [16:13] yofel: yes [16:13] ah [16:17] uhm [16:17] debfx: why did you remove the install icons line from debian/rules? [16:17] shadeslayer: they aren't used anymore [16:17] the patch that needed them has been long disabled and I've dropped it completely now [16:18] ah okay [16:21] hm, our pbuilder list missing hook still depends on cdbs [16:21] apachelogger: can you fix that? ^ [16:24] yes, I do not have time though [16:25] it is not like it matters much, is it? [16:26] true, take your timem [16:26] *time [16:58] Morning [17:12] Do the Kubuntu meeting notices get sent to kubuntu-users as well as kubuntu-devel? [17:15] just -devel [17:16] Thank ye. JontheEchidna mind looking at the doodle to ensure I idn't mess this up too bad before I send it? :D [17:16] sure [17:16] http://www.doodle.com/89xsm8fw2y6v8qqs [17:17] I'm not sure how timezones work with doodle... [17:17] I copied the times for meeting from the last one AFAIK [17:17] iirc it's UTC [17:17] * DarkwingDuck nods [17:18] I didn't know if Doodle autochanged for timezone [17:18] What times does it show for you? [17:18] 3-12 PM [17:19] here too [17:19] DarkwingDuck: afaik you need to enable timezone support when creating the poll [17:22] debfx: I went back through the settings, I can't find a TZ support anymore... Those are the same times that the last poll was. [17:23] DarkwingDuck: it's on the time suggestions page [17:26] ScottK: kde4libs is waiting on libdlrestrictions now. since when is the MIR team so pedantic about binary package promotions? [17:28] probably when a binary packages controls library loading [17:36] debfx: http://imagebin.org/155768 not there anymore. [17:36] shadeslayer: looking at your merge, Kubuntu Developers should be kept as the maintainer with Debian Qt/KDE as the XSBC-Original-Maintainer [17:37] JontheEchidna: debfx already merged kdelibs [17:37] * debfx forgot to push :( [17:37] DarkwingDuck: is it there when you create a new poll? [17:38] debfx: no. [17:38] oh, ok [17:38] debfx: It used to be... that's what confused me. [17:39] DarkwingDuck: it's still there for me: http://i.imgur.com/50v11.png [17:39] debfx: nevermind, it's there. I'm rebuilding [17:40] the times are listed in UTC Correct? [17:41] ahhh, this is better (I think) [17:41] These times look better? http://www.doodle.com/nvfgrvpg6p2vzqpp [17:42] 11 AM to 8 PM [17:43] offset 4 hours from the last numbers, so it looks pretty UTC [17:44] So, it's supposed to be 11A to 8P UTC? [17:45] I think so. Those look like pretty sane times for me [17:47] JontheEchidna: one more shot eh? http://www.doodle.com/diamdzurqp87app6 [17:48] ah, yeah. Better. Come to think of it I am -5 UTC, not -4 [17:48] the confusing bit is that in daylight savings we're -4 [17:48] :D [17:48] or something [17:48] Okay, I'll use that last one. [17:48] burn DST with fire [17:49] Aye [17:49] DST is so dumb [17:50] Arizona is about the only sane state in the US, in regards to DST (or the lack thereof) [17:50] Unfortunately they're a bit crazy in other regards :P [17:51] Arizona, Hawaii and half of Indiana [17:53] sup [17:53] Sup QuintasanDroid [17:54] * QuintasanDroid reinstalls Natty [17:54] utterly borken here [17:54] sigsegvs on everything [17:55] sigoops on apt [17:55] lol [17:55] * QuintasanDroid needs to spin his own mix of Kubuntu [17:56] shadeslayer: do you know any tools to remaster CD? [17:56] they have to work unlike remastersys [17:57] QuintasanDroid: you just download the cd -> extract it and chroot into it [17:57] and do whatever you want then :) [17:58] chroot into squashfs you mean? [17:58] and then I put it back into iso? [17:58] one sec [17:59] QuintasanDroid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization [17:59] QuintasanDroid: you use mkisofs and point it to your extacted chroot [18:00] QuintasanDroid: in that guide, "sudo mksquashfs edit extract-cd/casper/filesystem.squashfs -nolzma" won't work, use the command below that [18:03] debfx: Dunno. If that's all it needs, upload it and let it FTBFS and then I'll bit more. [18:04] ScottK: I've already uploaded, it's in dep-wait [18:05] debfx: Great. [18:06] * QuintasanDroid will spin Ultimate Kubuntu [18:08] shadeslayer: if, by any chance we get debdelta support in Launchpad this year, we are spinning Neon LiveCD [18:08] NO WAY [18:09] installer crashed at grub install [18:09] it is the official iso [18:09] ... [18:12] apachelogger: I already complained to LP people. They told me to go see the Community Council (re the team spam). Someone should do that. [18:12] * QuintasanDroid notes that GRUB is broken on CD [18:13] * QuintasanDroid wonders why that was not sorted out [18:15] Grub is broken? [18:15] installer crashed at it [18:15] and manually running the command yelps around about aufs [18:15] hmmz, [18:15] that was reported already [18:15] though there is no known fix [18:16] workaround is to chroot [18:16] ... [18:16] * QuintasanDroid cant boot his install [18:16] QuintasanDroid: I find people have no end of trouble with 64 bit desktops. I say don't bother. [18:17] using 32 bit is not acceptable workaround [18:17] debfx: I've begged for libdlrestrictions1 and libdlrestrictions-dev to be promoted. Now we'll see. [18:17] Only issue I had with grub is when I tried to install on hardware RAID. [18:17] I had to disable HDW RAID from BIOS to install with a software RAID [18:17] ScottK: you've gone that far? :) [18:17] thanks [18:17] Begged is probably a little strong, but I did ask. [18:17] * QuintasanDroid curses his computer [18:18] * DarkwingDuck has a vision of Scott on his knees [18:19] DarkwingDuck: That's not happening :P [18:19] QuintasanDroid: Oh I know... He said begged and that flashed in my mind for a moment. But, I'm sure that stern look with a expressionless face is more like it. [18:20] not many people can make ScottK so powerless, he wields wide influence [18:20] I mean, you see ScottK wanting something and that gets done asap :P [18:21] Unfortunately this one thing you can't do unless you are employed by Canonical. It requires shell access in their data center. [18:21] ScottK: Ahhh [18:21] The is where the lack of jr really hurts. [18:21] Yeah. [18:21] Or another employee that works with Kubuntu that knows someone. [18:22] hmmmmmmm [18:22] shadeslayer: ping [18:23] shadeslayer: go to #bzr, wave at Riddell and sent him link to the oom bug in LP when importing branches [18:23] :P [18:23] oh, [18:23] and run [18:24] lol [18:24] no, seriously [18:24] noone wants to have anything in common with bzr on LP [18:24] brrr [18:25] bzr > git [18:25] * QuintasanDroid hides [18:25] * DarkwingDuck snickers [18:25] * DarkwingDuck waits for someone to pop up for OPS [18:26] DarkwingDuck: You dont want to get in apachelogger's line of fire when he sees the statement above [18:26] :P [18:27] meh [18:27] I need to get this retarded hardware sorted out asap [18:27] hehehe [18:27] why it wont boot after a power off? -_- [18:27] ? [18:27] I can soft reboot it [18:27] if I power it off and on again [18:28] I get no POST, no display, no power on USB [18:28] but fans turn normally and hardware gets power [18:28] if I wait 20 minutes or so [18:28] and then power it on [18:28] then it works [18:28] stupid, isnt it.? [18:29] * apachelogger smacks QuintasanDroid with IL (δ, ω , if eq?(IX(delta, env, P redArg1(exp)), IX(delta, env, P redArg2(exp)))then IX(delta, env, T henP art(exp)) else IX(delta, env, ElseP art(exp))) = IL (δ, ω , IX(delta, env, ElseP art(exp)) [18:29] ROFL [18:29] ohshi- [18:29] what the hell? [18:29] dont tell me thats GIT source code [18:30] apachelogger-- [18:31] QuintasanDroid: I think you just got hit by a driveby [18:31] I never did like functional programming [18:31] * QuintasanDroid hurls the aforementioned equation back at apachelogger [18:31] ok [18:31] now you asked for it [18:31] QuintasanDroid: IL (δ, ω , IX(delta, env, [CALL GGT [IV S X1][IV S X2]])) =IL (δ, ω , DoCall(delta, omega, [CALL GGT [IV S X1][IV S X2]])) =IL (δ, ω , IX(delta, NewEnv(F ormP ar(delta, F N P art([CALL GGT [IV S X1][IV S X2]])), EvalList(delta, env, ArgP art([CALL GGT [IV S X1][IV S X2]]))), Body(delta, F N P art([CALL GGT [IV S X1][IV S X2]])))) [18:32] incidentially enough GGT = GCD in german [18:32] so if I pasted the other 300 lines of interpretation you'd have something useful [18:33] * QuintasanDroid hurls it back at apachelogger anyways [18:33] bleh, this looks worse than pyth0rn [18:33] Congrats apachelogger [18:34] QuintasanDroid: apachelogger have your units hsipped yet? [18:34]