[00:20] <penguin42> well, I guess do-release-upgrade -d isn't happy then
[00:20] <arand> Is it enabled already?
[00:21] <penguin42> well it does try - it seems to have left my VM in a state of a dialog saying doc-base couldn't be updated and all of the windows constantly redrawing and probably the window manager having died
[00:22] <arand> Sounds a bit depressed, indeed.
[00:23] <penguin42> looks like metacity is upset at bits of theming engines moving/disappearing under its feet
[00:25] <arand> Yea, I've had ugly theeming happening now in the g2-3 transision, dunno when that'll settle..
[00:26] <penguin42> yeh this killed metacity though and it's just stuck in a loop restarting and not letting you do anything
[01:34] <penguin42> oh god, we've copied the sad mac
[01:34] <penguin42> actually, that's pretty blatant
[02:31] <n0yd> Is it possible to install 11.10 using wubi? or do i have to wubi with 11.04 and upgrade?
[02:42] <arand> n0yd: I don't think wubi's available for it no, though... doesn't wubi just take an iso as the input? I'mnot sure you'd want to install it in the current state though ;)
[02:43] <n0yd> I would like to mess around.  Oh well, I will just do a dist upgrade, and if something breaks, so be it
[02:44] <arand> It most likely will, assume that ;)
[02:46] <n0yd> I have plenty of experience in breakage and fixage ;)
[04:48] <donnie> I upgraded to Oneiric from natty. Theme and wallpaper is messed up. I have a blue screen and right click is not accessible.
[05:05] <IdleOne> donnie: expected behaviour at this point of development
[05:06] <donnie> IdelOne I got a thread on Ubuntuforums with similar problem tied to /run/udev thanks.
[14:30] <funnylookinhat> I'm trying to find out if the Optimus Chipset patch that was put into the 2.3.40 kernel is going to be implemented in any fashion for OO ...  Any idea where I should be looking for feature requests, etc. ?  ( Or is the door closed on feature requests for this dev cycle ) ?
[14:34] <funnylookinhat> lol - I meant 2.6.40  ( duh )
[14:35] <arand> !schedule
[14:36] <funnylookinhat> Ah I missed feature request by 3 days!
[14:36] <arand> funnylookinhat: I'ts definitely not too late afaik, you may want to check up what the plans for kernel version in OO actually are, and file a bug with the request agains the kernel
[14:37] <funnylookinhat> I'm trying to find out which kernel they plan on using...  searching through the blueprints is taking a while :)
[14:38] <arand> funnylookinhat: Or ask in #ubuntu-kernel, kernelfreeze is September 15th so that might be a hint
[14:40] <arand> funnylookinhat: If this is about getting a specific peice of hardware working I would assume that it's likely to be implemented if deemed non-interfeering and properly requested (bug report, provide info, etc.)
[14:41] <funnylookinhat> arand, I'd assume the same, except that it's a very difficult piece of hardware... the funny thing is that it's for Lenovo laptops ( which are supposed to be officially supported, etc. etc. )
[14:51] <coz_>  hey guys
[16:32] <TheBuntu> how do i add gnome 3
[16:35] <penguin42> anyone running from a natty updated in 2d? My kvm update yesterday broke very badly
[16:39] <arand> penguin42: Broke how?
[16:40] <TheBuntu> never mind i got it
[16:41] <penguin42> arand: It looks like some theme breakage at gdm; it's the plain grey theme, then when I loginto Ubuntu 2D I get a 'Oh no! Something ahs gone wrong' grey screen with a 'Log out' button and a blatant copy of a Sad Mac
[16:42] <penguin42> arand: .xsession-errors talks about failure to load canberra-gtk-moudle and GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
[16:43] <arand> Yeah, the plain grey has been the case for a while due to gnome2/3 breakage afaik, the login fail I only saw on unity-2d, "ubuntu 2d" worked for me alst time I tried
[16:44] <penguin42> arand: Yeh my suspicion is it's trying to run unity-2d
[16:45] <penguin42> anyway, it's just my fiddle vm for trying these things
[16:47] <arand> Well, let's pull a snapshot and see if things get worse after upgrades...
[16:47] <arand> There are some unity-2d updates, indeed
[16:48] <penguin42> do you also see the thing about /run/udev not being writable during boot?
[16:49] <arand> Indeed
[16:49] <arand> Never paid much attention to it though
[16:51] <penguin42> nah, no interesting updates since I did the upgrade - oh well, wait for it to settle out
[18:47] <nit-wit> ! bootinfo
[18:47] <nit-wit> just testing the bot.
[19:08] <zicada> any workaround on the "bluescreen" with the current daily cdimage ?
[19:09] <zicada> re this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/789836
[19:11] <yofel> *what* shows a blue screen, do you get a blue ubiquity window, or can you attach a screenshot?
[19:11] <IdleOne> zicada: check the bug comments, there may be a work around
[19:12] <yofel> IdleOne: no workaround as far as I see
[19:12] <IdleOne> I guess there isn't one.
[19:19] <zicada> ah fixed it
[19:20] <zicada> missing .Xauthority in $HOME
[19:20] <zicada> just touched it, and ubiquity starts
[19:21] <arand> zicada: Do mention it on the bug ;)
[19:22] <zicada> aye
[19:38] <penguin42> zicada: .Xauthority has moved
[19:38] <penguin42> zicada: You should find an XAUTHORITY environment variable pointing to somewhere in /tmp
[21:51] <BUGabundo2> i'm screwed
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> laptop failed to resume from suspend
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> for the 3rd time
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> and wont boot
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> on livecd now, btrfsck shows a bunch of errors
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> cant mount it even after fsck
[21:52] <BUGabundo2> any ideas on how to dirty force mount ?
[21:53] <BUGabundo2> so i can at least copy some stuff that may not be backuped ?
[21:53] <BUGabundo2> gonna get free from this btrfs BS
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> hehe BUGabundo2
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> I don't know
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> but i feel your pain
[22:02] <BUGabundo2> Ian_Corne: i'm nagging cwillu_at_work  at #btrfs
[22:02] <BUGabundo2> it was HIM u got me into this messy BTRFS anyway :)
[22:03] <Ian_Corne> hehe
[22:07] <yofel> well, new btrfsck Should Be Out Rally Soon™ now ^^
[22:07] <yofel> *Really
[22:08] <Patrickdk> 4 years?
[22:08] <yofel> well, rumors say this year
[22:08] <Patrickdk> my btrfs test system died several months ago :(
[22:15] <BUGabundo2> humm according to cwillu_at_work  ubuntu has a 1yo btrfs ....
[22:24] <yofel> our btrfs-progs are a year old
[22:24] <yofel> nobody cared yet to merge the half-year old package from debian...
[22:42] <BUGabundo2> if i dd a partition, how many probs am i gonna face trying to mount it?
[22:42] <BUGabundo2> knowing that it has errors?
[22:50] <BUGabundo2> # dd if=/dev/sda5 of=20110529.img
[23:14] <Ian_Corne> could some1 please download http://ian.rave.org/~icorne/earthFull.png and open it with gnome-open please?
[23:14] <Ian_Corne> It crashes my X session atm
[23:16] <BUGabundo2> sorry, cant
[23:16] <BUGabundo2> dding my disk
[23:16] <BUGabundo2> not the best time to crash X
[23:16] <BUGabundo2> :P
[23:29] <CarlFK> is there a duel boot howto for u and u+1 ?
[23:30] <CarlFK> seems like it should be easy, but I seem to have stuffed it up a 2nd time.
[23:30] <Ian_Corne> it hurts CarlFK
[23:31] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: What are you using to display the image?
[23:31] <Ian_Corne> unless you don't use the same homedir
[23:31] <CarlFK> Ian_Corne: 2 everything: / /boot /home...
[23:31] <Ian_Corne> should be possible then I think?
[23:32] <Ian_Corne> don't really see the problem..
[23:32] <Ian_Corne> you gotta be carefull ofcourse what installing where
[23:32] <Ian_Corne> and I don't know how the grub updates for kernels would work
[23:32] <Ian_Corne> and /boot seperate partition, i won't ever get it...
[23:32] <CarlFK> im fuzzy on what each /boot ends up doing.
[23:33] <CarlFK> right
[23:33] <CarlFK> thus my hope someone has documented a sane setup.
[23:33] <penguin42> CarlFK: I think only one ends up owning the MBR, and that one can then be setup to boot the grub in the 2nd one
[23:33] <CarlFK> a shared /boot might make sense
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> penguin42:
[23:34] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: So that's a HUGE image
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> Eye of gnome
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> yes
[23:34] <kubu2> CarlFK: dual boot shud be easy. just let grub take care of it during install
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> it didn't crash this time
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> it made everything hang tho
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> and is open just fine now
[23:34] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: How much ram have you got?
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> 4gb
[23:34] <Ian_Corne> I guess it delves into swap when opening
[23:35] <Ian_Corne> it's down to 2gb + 800 in swap now
[23:35] <trism> I usually just have one testing partition, install with ubiquity -b; so that grub isn't reinstalled, and manage grub from my main ubuntu install (just need to remember to run sudo update-grub once in a while on the main system)
[23:35] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: It's a bit mad, because even at that size it shouldn't need more than about 1GB for the image
[23:35] <Ian_Corne> yeah
[23:35] <CarlFK> trism: 'manage grub' = edit configs by hand?
[23:36] <trism> CarlFK: no, grub will search from other installs when you run update-grub from the main ubuntu install
[23:36] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Hmm, although  'display' is using 5GB so far
[23:36] <Ian_Corne> how much do you haveN
[23:36] <penguin42> 8
[23:37] <CarlFK> trism: grub will search the /boot on more than one partition?
[23:37] <trism> CarlFK: it lists them as a bunch of "Ubuntu oneric (development branch) (11.10)" lines at the end of grub
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> on natty
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> it only uses 1gb
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> exactly 1gb :p
[23:37] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: This is on Natty
[23:37] <trism> CarlFK: yes
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> and opens fluently
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> aha
[23:37] <Ian_Corne> it opened perfectly for me
[23:38] <Ian_Corne> 2.32.1 eye of gnome
[23:38] <penguin42> but I agree it should, I could see arguments for maybe taking 2GB - but not much more
[23:38] <Ian_Corne> I'll file a nig
[23:38] <Ian_Corne> bgu
[23:38] <Ian_Corne> bug
[23:38] <Ian_Corne> damn fingers
[23:39] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Incidentally, what's that an image of?
[23:39] <BUGabundo2> me?
[23:39] <Ian_Corne> a 1:1 scale of the world in minecraft map
[23:40] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: Yeh I can confirm on Natty it uses 1GB in EOG
[23:40] <BUGabundo2> u boys and ur gamed
[23:40] <Ian_Corne> same here penguin42
[23:40]  * penguin42 admits to never having tried minecraft
[23:40] <Ian_Corne> don't
[23:40] <Ian_Corne> it's worse than crack
[23:40] <Ian_Corne> worse then wow*
[23:41] <Ian_Corne> i don't know how bad crack is
[23:41] <Ian_Corne> :p
[23:41] <penguin42> ouch, I've lost friends due to wow
[23:41] <Ian_Corne> i play wow
[23:41] <Ian_Corne> i got over the IMUSTPLAYALLTHETIME part
[23:41] <Ian_Corne> so i'm ok now
[23:43] <penguin42> Ian_Corne: I can kind of imagine if something was deciding to do 32bit/channel it could use 4GB
[23:44] <Ian_Corne> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/790008
[23:44] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[23:44] <Ian_Corne> my natty desktop is 64 bit
[23:45] <Ian_Corne> my laptop is 32bit with pae
[23:45] <BUGabundo2> Ian_Corne: valgrind it
[23:45] <BUGabundo2> its a mem leak somewhere
[23:45] <BUGabundo2> install dbg files for eog
[23:45] <BUGabundo2> and go from there
[23:48] <Ian_Corne> ugh valgrind, that's like 4 years ago from my c++ course :p
[23:48] <BUGabundo2> LOL
[23:48] <Ian_Corne> ==17786== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0x67e7d028, 0x9fb05028) (undefined)
[23:48] <Ian_Corne> doesn't give that much info
[23:49] <BUGabundo2> u need seb128 on that
[23:49] <BUGabundo2> he is the guru
[23:49] <Ian_Corne> aha that gave more info, it got killed
[23:49] <Ian_Corne> i'll put it in a log and include it
[23:50] <Ian_Corne> don't know what to do with it :p
[23:50] <BUGabundo2> ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[23:50] <BUGabundo2> both BTRFS drives show errors
[23:51] <BUGabundo2> not sure i can just format this drive :(
[23:51] <BUGabundo2> but since i cant access it anyway
[23:51] <BUGabundo2> let do a fresh install
[23:51] <BUGabundo2> wish me luck
[23:51] <BUGabundo2> lets see how a +1 daily works
[23:52] <Ian_Corne> gl and tell me how it's like
[23:57] <BUGabundo2> not looking good so far
[23:57] <BUGabundo2> stuck on 1st step