| penguin42 | well, I guess do-release-upgrade -d isn't happy then | 00:20 |
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| arand | Is it enabled already? | 00:20 |
| penguin42 | well it does try - it seems to have left my VM in a state of a dialog saying doc-base couldn't be updated and all of the windows constantly redrawing and probably the window manager having died | 00:21 |
| arand | Sounds a bit depressed, indeed. | 00:22 |
| penguin42 | looks like metacity is upset at bits of theming engines moving/disappearing under its feet | 00:23 |
| arand | Yea, I've had ugly theeming happening now in the g2-3 transision, dunno when that'll settle.. | 00:25 |
| penguin42 | yeh this killed metacity though and it's just stuck in a loop restarting and not letting you do anything | 00:26 |
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| penguin42 | oh god, we've copied the sad mac | 01:34 |
| penguin42 | actually, that's pretty blatant | 01:34 |
| n0yd | Is it possible to install 11.10 using wubi? or do i have to wubi with 11.04 and upgrade? | 02:31 |
| arand | n0yd: I don't think wubi's available for it no, though... doesn't wubi just take an iso as the input? I'mnot sure you'd want to install it in the current state though ;) | 02:42 |
| n0yd | I would like to mess around. Oh well, I will just do a dist upgrade, and if something breaks, so be it | 02:43 |
| arand | It most likely will, assume that ;) | 02:44 |
| n0yd | I have plenty of experience in breakage and fixage ;) | 02:46 |
| donnie | I upgraded to Oneiric from natty. Theme and wallpaper is messed up. I have a blue screen and right click is not accessible. | 04:48 |
| IdleOne | donnie: expected behaviour at this point of development | 05:05 |
| donnie | IdelOne I got a thread on Ubuntuforums with similar problem tied to /run/udev thanks. | 05:06 |
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| funnylookinhat | I'm trying to find out if the Optimus Chipset patch that was put into the 2.3.40 kernel is going to be implemented in any fashion for OO ... Any idea where I should be looking for feature requests, etc. ? ( Or is the door closed on feature requests for this dev cycle ) ? | 14:30 |
| funnylookinhat | lol - I meant 2.6.40 ( duh ) | 14:34 |
| arand | !schedule | 14:35 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 14:35 |
| funnylookinhat | Ah I missed feature request by 3 days! | 14:36 |
| arand | funnylookinhat: I'ts definitely not too late afaik, you may want to check up what the plans for kernel version in OO actually are, and file a bug with the request agains the kernel | 14:36 |
| funnylookinhat | I'm trying to find out which kernel they plan on using... searching through the blueprints is taking a while :) | 14:37 |
| arand | funnylookinhat: Or ask in #ubuntu-kernel, kernelfreeze is September 15th so that might be a hint | 14:38 |
| arand | funnylookinhat: If this is about getting a specific peice of hardware working I would assume that it's likely to be implemented if deemed non-interfeering and properly requested (bug report, provide info, etc.) | 14:40 |
| funnylookinhat | arand, I'd assume the same, except that it's a very difficult piece of hardware... the funny thing is that it's for Lenovo laptops ( which are supposed to be officially supported, etc. etc. ) | 14:41 |
| coz_ | hey guys | 14:51 |
| TheBuntu | how do i add gnome 3 | 16:32 |
| penguin42 | anyone running from a natty updated in 2d? My kvm update yesterday broke very badly | 16:35 |
| arand | penguin42: Broke how? | 16:39 |
| TheBuntu | never mind i got it | 16:40 |
| penguin42 | arand: It looks like some theme breakage at gdm; it's the plain grey theme, then when I loginto Ubuntu 2D I get a 'Oh no! Something ahs gone wrong' grey screen with a 'Log out' button and a blatant copy of a Sad Mac | 16:41 |
| penguin42 | arand: .xsession-errors talks about failure to load canberra-gtk-moudle and GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported | 16:42 |
| arand | Yeah, the plain grey has been the case for a while due to gnome2/3 breakage afaik, the login fail I only saw on unity-2d, "ubuntu 2d" worked for me alst time I tried | 16:43 |
| penguin42 | arand: Yeh my suspicion is it's trying to run unity-2d | 16:44 |
| penguin42 | anyway, it's just my fiddle vm for trying these things | 16:45 |
| arand | Well, let's pull a snapshot and see if things get worse after upgrades... | 16:47 |
| arand | There are some unity-2d updates, indeed | 16:47 |
| penguin42 | do you also see the thing about /run/udev not being writable during boot? | 16:48 |
| arand | Indeed | 16:49 |
| arand | Never paid much attention to it though | 16:49 |
| penguin42 | nah, no interesting updates since I did the upgrade - oh well, wait for it to settle out | 16:51 |
| nit-wit | ! bootinfo | 18:47 |
| ubottu | To diagnose boot issues, you can use the Boot Info Script available from http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ Run the script with !sudo and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at). | 18:47 |
| nit-wit | just testing the bot. | 18:47 |
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| zicada | any workaround on the "bluescreen" with the current daily cdimage ? | 19:08 |
| zicada | re this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/789836 | 19:09 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 789836 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 11.10 desktop i386 installer shows a blue screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:09 |
| yofel | *what* shows a blue screen, do you get a blue ubiquity window, or can you attach a screenshot? | 19:11 |
| IdleOne | zicada: check the bug comments, there may be a work around | 19:11 |
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| yofel | IdleOne: no workaround as far as I see | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | I guess there isn't one. | 19:12 |
| zicada | ah fixed it | 19:19 |
| zicada | missing .Xauthority in $HOME | 19:20 |
| zicada | just touched it, and ubiquity starts | 19:20 |
| arand | zicada: Do mention it on the bug ;) | 19:21 |
| zicada | aye | 19:22 |
| penguin42 | zicada: .Xauthority has moved | 19:38 |
| penguin42 | zicada: You should find an XAUTHORITY environment variable pointing to somewhere in /tmp | 19:38 |
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| BUGabundo2 | i'm screwed | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo2 | laptop failed to resume from suspend | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | for the 3rd time | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | and wont boot | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | on livecd now, btrfsck shows a bunch of errors | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | cant mount it even after fsck | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | any ideas on how to dirty force mount ? | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | so i can at least copy some stuff that may not be backuped ? | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo2 | gonna get free from this btrfs BS | 21:53 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe BUGabundo2 | 21:58 |
| Ian_Corne | I don't know | 21:58 |
| Ian_Corne | but i feel your pain | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo2 | Ian_Corne: i'm nagging cwillu_at_work at #btrfs | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo2 | it was HIM u got me into this messy BTRFS anyway :) | 22:02 |
| Ian_Corne | hehe | 22:03 |
| yofel | well, new btrfsck Should Be Out Rally Soon™ now ^^ | 22:07 |
| yofel | *Really | 22:07 |
| Patrickdk | 4 years? | 22:08 |
| yofel | well, rumors say this year | 22:08 |
| Patrickdk | my btrfs test system died several months ago :( | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo2 | humm according to cwillu_at_work ubuntu has a 1yo btrfs .... | 22:15 |
| yofel | our btrfs-progs are a year old | 22:24 |
| yofel | nobody cared yet to merge the half-year old package from debian... | 22:24 |
| BUGabundo2 | if i dd a partition, how many probs am i gonna face trying to mount it? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo2 | knowing that it has errors? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo2 | # dd if=/dev/sda5 of=20110529.img | 22:50 |
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| Ian_Corne | could some1 please download http://ian.rave.org/~icorne/earthFull.png and open it with gnome-open please? | 23:14 |
| Ian_Corne | It crashes my X session atm | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo2 | sorry, cant | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo2 | dding my disk | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo2 | not the best time to crash X | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo2 | :P | 23:16 |
| CarlFK | is there a duel boot howto for u and u+1 ? | 23:29 |
| CarlFK | seems like it should be easy, but I seem to have stuffed it up a 2nd time. | 23:30 |
| Ian_Corne | it hurts CarlFK | 23:30 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: What are you using to display the image? | 23:31 |
| Ian_Corne | unless you don't use the same homedir | 23:31 |
| CarlFK | Ian_Corne: 2 everything: / /boot /home... | 23:31 |
| Ian_Corne | should be possible then I think? | 23:31 |
| Ian_Corne | don't really see the problem.. | 23:32 |
| Ian_Corne | you gotta be carefull ofcourse what installing where | 23:32 |
| Ian_Corne | and I don't know how the grub updates for kernels would work | 23:32 |
| Ian_Corne | and /boot seperate partition, i won't ever get it... | 23:32 |
| CarlFK | im fuzzy on what each /boot ends up doing. | 23:32 |
| CarlFK | right | 23:33 |
| CarlFK | thus my hope someone has documented a sane setup. | 23:33 |
| penguin42 | CarlFK: I think only one ends up owning the MBR, and that one can then be setup to boot the grub in the 2nd one | 23:33 |
| CarlFK | a shared /boot might make sense | 23:33 |
| Ian_Corne | penguin42: | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: So that's a HUGE image | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | Eye of gnome | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | yes | 23:34 |
| kubu2 | CarlFK: dual boot shud be easy. just let grub take care of it during install | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | it didn't crash this time | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | it made everything hang tho | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | and is open just fine now | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: How much ram have you got? | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | 4gb | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | I guess it delves into swap when opening | 23:34 |
| Ian_Corne | it's down to 2gb + 800 in swap now | 23:35 |
| trism | I usually just have one testing partition, install with ubiquity -b; so that grub isn't reinstalled, and manage grub from my main ubuntu install (just need to remember to run sudo update-grub once in a while on the main system) | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: It's a bit mad, because even at that size it shouldn't need more than about 1GB for the image | 23:35 |
| Ian_Corne | yeah | 23:35 |
| CarlFK | trism: 'manage grub' = edit configs by hand? | 23:35 |
| trism | CarlFK: no, grub will search from other installs when you run update-grub from the main ubuntu install | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: Hmm, although 'display' is using 5GB so far | 23:36 |
| Ian_Corne | how much do you haveN | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | 8 | 23:36 |
| CarlFK | trism: grub will search the /boot on more than one partition? | 23:37 |
| trism | CarlFK: it lists them as a bunch of "Ubuntu oneric (development branch) (11.10)" lines at the end of grub | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | on natty | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | it only uses 1gb | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | exactly 1gb :p | 23:37 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: This is on Natty | 23:37 |
| trism | CarlFK: yes | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | and opens fluently | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | aha | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | it opened perfectly for me | 23:37 |
| Ian_Corne | 2.32.1 eye of gnome | 23:38 |
| penguin42 | but I agree it should, I could see arguments for maybe taking 2GB - but not much more | 23:38 |
| Ian_Corne | I'll file a nig | 23:38 |
| Ian_Corne | bgu | 23:38 |
| Ian_Corne | bug | 23:38 |
| Ian_Corne | damn fingers | 23:38 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: Incidentally, what's that an image of? | 23:39 |
| BUGabundo2 | me? | 23:39 |
| Ian_Corne | a 1:1 scale of the world in minecraft map | 23:39 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: Yeh I can confirm on Natty it uses 1GB in EOG | 23:40 |
| BUGabundo2 | u boys and ur gamed | 23:40 |
| Ian_Corne | same here penguin42 | 23:40 |
| * penguin42 admits to never having tried minecraft | 23:40 | |
| Ian_Corne | don't | 23:40 |
| Ian_Corne | it's worse than crack | 23:40 |
| Ian_Corne | worse then wow* | 23:40 |
| Ian_Corne | i don't know how bad crack is | 23:41 |
| Ian_Corne | :p | 23:41 |
| penguin42 | ouch, I've lost friends due to wow | 23:41 |
| Ian_Corne | i play wow | 23:41 |
| Ian_Corne | i got over the IMUSTPLAYALLTHETIME part | 23:41 |
| Ian_Corne | so i'm ok now | 23:41 |
| penguin42 | Ian_Corne: I can kind of imagine if something was deciding to do 32bit/channel it could use 4GB | 23:43 |
| Ian_Corne | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/790008 | 23:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 790008 in eog (Ubuntu) "Eye of Gnome crashes / uses abnormal amounts of memory on large files" [Undecided,New] | 23:44 |
| Ian_Corne | hmm | 23:44 |
| Ian_Corne | my natty desktop is 64 bit | 23:44 |
| Ian_Corne | my laptop is 32bit with pae | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo2 | Ian_Corne: valgrind it | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo2 | its a mem leak somewhere | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo2 | install dbg files for eog | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo2 | and go from there | 23:45 |
| Ian_Corne | ugh valgrind, that's like 4 years ago from my c++ course :p | 23:48 |
| BUGabundo2 | LOL | 23:48 |
| Ian_Corne | ==17786== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0x67e7d028, 0x9fb05028) (undefined) | 23:48 |
| Ian_Corne | doesn't give that much info | 23:48 |
| BUGabundo2 | u need seb128 on that | 23:49 |
| BUGabundo2 | he is the guru | 23:49 |
| Ian_Corne | aha that gave more info, it got killed | 23:49 |
| Ian_Corne | i'll put it in a log and include it | 23:49 |
| Ian_Corne | don't know what to do with it :p | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo2 | ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo2 | both BTRFS drives show errors | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo2 | not sure i can just format this drive :( | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo2 | but since i cant access it anyway | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo2 | let do a fresh install | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo2 | wish me luck | 23:51 |
| BUGabundo2 | lets see how a +1 daily works | 23:51 |
| Ian_Corne | gl and tell me how it's like | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo2 | not looking good so far | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo2 | stuck on 1st step | 23:57 |
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