[00:20] well, I guess do-release-upgrade -d isn't happy then [00:20] Is it enabled already? [00:21] well it does try - it seems to have left my VM in a state of a dialog saying doc-base couldn't be updated and all of the windows constantly redrawing and probably the window manager having died [00:22] Sounds a bit depressed, indeed. [00:23] looks like metacity is upset at bits of theming engines moving/disappearing under its feet [00:25] Yea, I've had ugly theeming happening now in the g2-3 transision, dunno when that'll settle.. [00:26] yeh this killed metacity though and it's just stuck in a loop restarting and not letting you do anything === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:34] oh god, we've copied the sad mac [01:34] actually, that's pretty blatant [02:31] Is it possible to install 11.10 using wubi? or do i have to wubi with 11.04 and upgrade? [02:42] n0yd: I don't think wubi's available for it no, though... doesn't wubi just take an iso as the input? I'mnot sure you'd want to install it in the current state though ;) [02:43] I would like to mess around. Oh well, I will just do a dist upgrade, and if something breaks, so be it [02:44] It most likely will, assume that ;) [02:46] I have plenty of experience in breakage and fixage ;) [04:48] I upgraded to Oneiric from natty. Theme and wallpaper is messed up. I have a blue screen and right click is not accessible. [05:05] donnie: expected behaviour at this point of development [05:06] IdelOne I got a thread on Ubuntuforums with similar problem tied to /run/udev thanks. === vega is now known as Guest7136 [14:30] I'm trying to find out if the Optimus Chipset patch that was put into the 2.3.40 kernel is going to be implemented in any fashion for OO ... Any idea where I should be looking for feature requests, etc. ? ( Or is the door closed on feature requests for this dev cycle ) ? [14:34] lol - I meant 2.6.40 ( duh ) [14:35] !schedule [14:35] A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [14:36] Ah I missed feature request by 3 days! [14:36] funnylookinhat: I'ts definitely not too late afaik, you may want to check up what the plans for kernel version in OO actually are, and file a bug with the request agains the kernel [14:37] I'm trying to find out which kernel they plan on using... searching through the blueprints is taking a while :) [14:38] funnylookinhat: Or ask in #ubuntu-kernel, kernelfreeze is September 15th so that might be a hint [14:40] funnylookinhat: If this is about getting a specific peice of hardware working I would assume that it's likely to be implemented if deemed non-interfeering and properly requested (bug report, provide info, etc.) [14:41] arand, I'd assume the same, except that it's a very difficult piece of hardware... the funny thing is that it's for Lenovo laptops ( which are supposed to be officially supported, etc. etc. ) [14:51] hey guys [16:32] how do i add gnome 3 [16:35] anyone running from a natty updated in 2d? My kvm update yesterday broke very badly [16:39] penguin42: Broke how? [16:40] never mind i got it [16:41] arand: It looks like some theme breakage at gdm; it's the plain grey theme, then when I loginto Ubuntu 2D I get a 'Oh no! Something ahs gone wrong' grey screen with a 'Log out' button and a blatant copy of a Sad Mac [16:42] arand: .xsession-errors talks about failure to load canberra-gtk-moudle and GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported [16:43] Yeah, the plain grey has been the case for a while due to gnome2/3 breakage afaik, the login fail I only saw on unity-2d, "ubuntu 2d" worked for me alst time I tried [16:44] arand: Yeh my suspicion is it's trying to run unity-2d [16:45] anyway, it's just my fiddle vm for trying these things [16:47] Well, let's pull a snapshot and see if things get worse after upgrades... [16:47] There are some unity-2d updates, indeed [16:48] do you also see the thing about /run/udev not being writable during boot? [16:49] Indeed [16:49] Never paid much attention to it though [16:51] nah, no interesting updates since I did the upgrade - oh well, wait for it to settle out [18:47] ! bootinfo [18:47] To diagnose boot issues, you can use the Boot Info Script available from http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ Run the script with !sudo and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at). [18:47] just testing the bot. === gac_ is now known as gac === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride === gpc is now known as IdleOne [19:08] any workaround on the "bluescreen" with the current daily cdimage ? [19:09] re this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/789836 [19:09] Ubuntu bug 789836 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 11.10 desktop i386 installer shows a blue screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:11] *what* shows a blue screen, do you get a blue ubiquity window, or can you attach a screenshot? [19:11] zicada: check the bug comments, there may be a work around === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T [19:12] IdleOne: no workaround as far as I see [19:12] I guess there isn't one. [19:19] ah fixed it [19:20] missing .Xauthority in $HOME [19:20] just touched it, and ubiquity starts [19:21] zicada: Do mention it on the bug ;) [19:22] aye [19:38] zicada: .Xauthority has moved [19:38] zicada: You should find an XAUTHORITY environment variable pointing to somewhere in /tmp === braiam is now known as A === A is now known as braiam === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:51] i'm screwed [21:52] laptop failed to resume from suspend [21:52] for the 3rd time [21:52] and wont boot [21:52] on livecd now, btrfsck shows a bunch of errors [21:52] cant mount it even after fsck [21:52] any ideas on how to dirty force mount ? [21:53] so i can at least copy some stuff that may not be backuped ? [21:53] gonna get free from this btrfs BS [21:58] hehe BUGabundo2 [21:58] I don't know [21:58] but i feel your pain [22:02] Ian_Corne: i'm nagging cwillu_at_work at #btrfs [22:02] it was HIM u got me into this messy BTRFS anyway :) [22:03] hehe [22:07] well, new btrfsck Should Be Out Rally Soon™ now ^^ [22:07] *Really [22:08] 4 years? [22:08] well, rumors say this year [22:08] my btrfs test system died several months ago :( [22:15] humm according to cwillu_at_work ubuntu has a 1yo btrfs .... [22:24] our btrfs-progs are a year old [22:24] nobody cared yet to merge the half-year old package from debian... [22:42] if i dd a partition, how many probs am i gonna face trying to mount it? [22:42] knowing that it has errors? [22:50] # dd if=/dev/sda5 of=20110529.img === rcmaehl is now known as Guest9521 === Guest9521 is now known as rcmaehl [23:14] could some1 please download http://ian.rave.org/~icorne/earthFull.png and open it with gnome-open please? [23:14] It crashes my X session atm [23:16] sorry, cant [23:16] dding my disk [23:16] not the best time to crash X [23:16] :P [23:29] is there a duel boot howto for u and u+1 ? [23:30] seems like it should be easy, but I seem to have stuffed it up a 2nd time. [23:30] it hurts CarlFK [23:31] Ian_Corne: What are you using to display the image? [23:31] unless you don't use the same homedir [23:31] Ian_Corne: 2 everything: / /boot /home... [23:31] should be possible then I think? [23:32] don't really see the problem.. [23:32] you gotta be carefull ofcourse what installing where [23:32] and I don't know how the grub updates for kernels would work [23:32] and /boot seperate partition, i won't ever get it... [23:32] im fuzzy on what each /boot ends up doing. [23:33] right [23:33] thus my hope someone has documented a sane setup. [23:33] CarlFK: I think only one ends up owning the MBR, and that one can then be setup to boot the grub in the 2nd one [23:33] a shared /boot might make sense [23:34] penguin42: [23:34] Ian_Corne: So that's a HUGE image [23:34] Eye of gnome [23:34] yes [23:34] CarlFK: dual boot shud be easy. just let grub take care of it during install [23:34] it didn't crash this time [23:34] it made everything hang tho [23:34] and is open just fine now [23:34] Ian_Corne: How much ram have you got? [23:34] 4gb [23:34] I guess it delves into swap when opening [23:35] it's down to 2gb + 800 in swap now [23:35] I usually just have one testing partition, install with ubiquity -b; so that grub isn't reinstalled, and manage grub from my main ubuntu install (just need to remember to run sudo update-grub once in a while on the main system) [23:35] Ian_Corne: It's a bit mad, because even at that size it shouldn't need more than about 1GB for the image [23:35] yeah [23:35] trism: 'manage grub' = edit configs by hand? [23:36] CarlFK: no, grub will search from other installs when you run update-grub from the main ubuntu install [23:36] Ian_Corne: Hmm, although 'display' is using 5GB so far [23:36] how much do you haveN [23:36] 8 [23:37] trism: grub will search the /boot on more than one partition? [23:37] CarlFK: it lists them as a bunch of "Ubuntu oneric (development branch) (11.10)" lines at the end of grub [23:37] on natty [23:37] it only uses 1gb [23:37] exactly 1gb :p [23:37] Ian_Corne: This is on Natty [23:37] CarlFK: yes [23:37] and opens fluently [23:37] aha [23:37] it opened perfectly for me [23:38] 2.32.1 eye of gnome [23:38] but I agree it should, I could see arguments for maybe taking 2GB - but not much more [23:38] I'll file a nig [23:38] bgu [23:38] bug [23:38] damn fingers [23:39] Ian_Corne: Incidentally, what's that an image of? [23:39] me? [23:39] a 1:1 scale of the world in minecraft map [23:40] Ian_Corne: Yeh I can confirm on Natty it uses 1GB in EOG [23:40] u boys and ur gamed [23:40] same here penguin42 [23:40] * penguin42 admits to never having tried minecraft [23:40] don't [23:40] it's worse than crack [23:40] worse then wow* [23:41] i don't know how bad crack is [23:41] :p [23:41] ouch, I've lost friends due to wow [23:41] i play wow [23:41] i got over the IMUSTPLAYALLTHETIME part [23:41] so i'm ok now [23:43] Ian_Corne: I can kind of imagine if something was deciding to do 32bit/channel it could use 4GB [23:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/790008 [23:44] Ubuntu bug 790008 in eog (Ubuntu) "Eye of Gnome crashes / uses abnormal amounts of memory on large files" [Undecided,New] [23:44] hmm [23:44] my natty desktop is 64 bit [23:45] my laptop is 32bit with pae [23:45] Ian_Corne: valgrind it [23:45] its a mem leak somewhere [23:45] install dbg files for eog [23:45] and go from there [23:48] ugh valgrind, that's like 4 years ago from my c++ course :p [23:48] LOL [23:48] ==17786== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0x67e7d028, 0x9fb05028) (undefined) [23:48] doesn't give that much info [23:49] u need seb128 on that [23:49] he is the guru [23:49] aha that gave more info, it got killed [23:49] i'll put it in a log and include it [23:50] don't know what to do with it :p [23:50] ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [23:50] both BTRFS drives show errors [23:51] not sure i can just format this drive :( [23:51] but since i cant access it anyway [23:51] let do a fresh install [23:51] wish me luck [23:51] lets see how a +1 daily works [23:52] gl and tell me how it's like [23:57] not looking good so far [23:57] stuck on 1st step