| ScottK | Ah. So now we have an entire team dedicated to shoving Ubuntu Tweak into the archive. | 06:56 |
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| micahg | ScottK: huh? | 06:56 |
| ScottK | http://ubuntumug.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/ubuntu-power-users-first-meeting/ | 06:57 |
| ScottK | Apparently 'power user' turned out to be a synonym for, well I can't find a CoC compliant way to put what I think it's a synonym for with any specificity. | 06:57 |
| micahg | lol | 06:58 |
| * ScottK is glad tumbleweed took over reporting MOTU status for the release team. | 06:58 | |
| micahg | orly, cool | 06:58 |
| ScottK | tumbleweed: Welcome. | 06:58 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 06:58 |
| ScottK | He and Laney are on ubuntu-release now. | 06:58 |
| blackmoon-105 | hi, in a -dev package there are only a .h file, or also binary files? (.a, .la, .so) | 08:45 |
| * tumbleweed gets home. Took an extended post-UDS UK detour | 08:51 | |
| blackmoon-105 | no one? | 08:57 |
| tumbleweed | http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 08:57 |
| jmarsden | blackmoon-105: Binaries too... but why don't you try looking at one to find out? dpkg -L glib2.0-dev for example | 08:57 |
| tumbleweed | blackmoon-105: ^ | 08:58 |
| tumbleweed | blackmoon-105: it's common to have .a files in -dev, and possibly .la, but please try to avoid .la in new packages | 08:58 |
| blackmoon-105 | jmarsden: i've look in some packages and sometimes i've fount it and sometimes not. this is the reason because i've asked | 09:02 |
| blackmoon-105 | tumbleweed: thanks for the link | 09:02 |
| tumbleweed | blackmoon-105: it's out of date, but still informative | 09:04 |
| blackmoon-105 | tumbleweed: i'm re-package libopensc and i don't know if i must include the .la, .a, .so files in the -dev package or in the lib package | 09:05 |
| tumbleweed | blackmoon-105: see also this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/05/msg01003.html | 09:07 |
| blackmoon-105 | tumbleweed: ok, thanks | 09:08 |
| evaluate | micahg, ping? | 09:51 |
| evaluate | micahg, I was curios as to what the status of #702316 was. I noticed you merged 1.4.0 from Debian, but the patch for natty hasn't yet been applied. | 09:54 |
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| blackmoon-105 | hi, i've made an updated opensc (0.12.10) deb package, available on my launchpad repo. there is a way for include it in a ubuntu repostories? | 18:30 |
| stlsaint | blackmoon-105: your package must get sponsored | 18:31 |
| stlsaint | blackmoon-105: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 18:32 |
| tumbleweed | but more to the point, opensc is maintained in debian, we just modify the version we get from them, and we generally try to avoid unecessary diversion from debian | 18:33 |
| tumbleweed | have you spoken to the maintainer of the package in debian, to see if he needs / wants help with it? | 18:33 |
| stlsaint | blackmoon-105: ah yea you dont want to go messing with another maintainers package especially if its being maintained in debian | 18:35 |
| tumbleweed | well, we don't have maintainers in ubuntu, you can touch anything (although we ask the right people when possible) | 18:36 |
| stlsaint | tumbleweed: gotcha | 18:37 |
| tumbleweed | but we still try not to diverge from debian where possible. We don't have the manpower to maintain unecessary differences | 18:37 |
| blackmoon-105 | stlsaint: the package is already in debian, but the software version is not updated with the version on opensc website | 18:37 |
| tumbleweed | blackmoon-105: and is there a particular reason why we need this new release now? | 18:38 |
| blackmoon-105 | yes bacaus the latest version 0.12.x is the only version which can do working my smart card reader | 18:39 |
| tumbleweed | that sounds like a good reason to do something about it :) I still suggest poking the debian maintainer first, though | 18:39 |
| blackmoon-105 | this smart card reader is used in italy for read the healt card | 18:40 |
| blackmoon-105 | *health | 18:40 |
| blackmoon-105 | tumbleweed: ok i'll try to send an email to the debian maintainer | 18:41 |
| broder | blackmoon-105: better would be filing a bug with the debian maintainer | 18:42 |
| blackmoon-105 | debian have a bug page as here in launchpad? | 18:43 |
| blackmoon-105 | broder: ^ | 18:43 |
| broder | blackmoon-105: no, they use their own bugtracker | 18:43 |
| broder | https://bugs.debian.org | 18:43 |
| broder | but the easiest way to use it is to install reportbug | 18:44 |
| blackmoon-105 | broder: ok, thank you | 18:44 |
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| hrw | Laney, persia: can 'revu uploaders' group be dropped finally? it is listed as 'no longer necessary' but each 'ubuntu contributor' becames member of it. | 20:40 |
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| stlsaint | im having a issue setting up apt-cacher-ng | 22:55 |
| jtaylor | what kind of issue? | 22:58 |
| stlsaint | jtaylor: i believe i have correctly configured but when i hit the import button on localhost:3142 it says no index file found | 22:59 |
| stlsaint | No index files detected. Unable to continue, cannot map files to internal locations. | 22:59 |
| jtaylor | to import at least one client must have updated | 22:59 |
| stlsaint | so i would need to configure my pbuilder to use apt-cacher-ng then update | 23:00 |
| jtaylor | or use your local machine | 23:00 |
| stlsaint | ah kk | 23:00 |
| jtaylor | -o Acquire::html::proxy=... | 23:00 |
| stlsaint | jtaylor: is there something specific i must do to pbuilders to use cache? | 23:02 |
| jtaylor | pbuilder has the --http-proxy option | 23:03 |
| stlsaint | i mean are they treated like clients and i must add the -hhtp command | 23:03 |
| jtaylor | or use the http_proxy env variable | 23:03 |
| jtaylor | the later is required for cowbuilder | 23:03 |
| stlsaint | kk, thats what i meant, ok sounds good, i will give it a go | 23:03 |
| jtaylor | or if you want it permantently for the rc | 23:03 |
| stlsaint | is it safe to move the pbuilderrc to /home/username/.pbuilderrc cause im tired of seeing the error that there is no .pbuilderrc everytime i run | 23:07 |
| jtaylor | should be no problem | 23:07 |
| stlsaint | wow so it seems i have no ~/.pbuilderrc | 23:11 |
| stlsaint | really im just upset at not knowing where it is | 23:11 |
| geser | pbuilder caches the downloaded debs by default, but I use apt-cacher-ng to have a common cache for my pbuilder and my normal system | 23:21 |
| stlsaint | geser: yea i noticed that as i was reading more and more | 23:21 |
| jtaylor | its also useful to cache for VM's | 23:23 |
| geser | I also had to use a proxy for my pbuilder as I use tmpfs for buildspace and pbuilder uses hard-links to get it's cache into the build environment which doesn't work cross-partition | 23:25 |
| stlsaint | will the apt-cacher-ng/_import folder automatically update as new packages go into the archives folder? | 23:25 |
| jtaylor | it will delete the packages it adds to the archive from the import folder | 23:26 |
| geser | I disabled the pbuilder cache as apt-cacher-ng does the caching already (no need to cache it twice) | 23:26 |
| geser | (using apt-cacher-ng as http_proxy in pbuilder) | 23:27 |
| stlsaint | jtaylor: question: i just made a new pbuilder for karmic, since it had to get new packages will those be added to apt-cacher-ng/_import folder or will i have to do manually? | 23:44 |
| stlsaint | exit | 23:54 |
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