[00:42] <Snugger> hi
[00:49] <Snugger> how do you access your network interface on ubuntu server and edit it so i can have my wireless adapter become the main internet source for my server?
[00:52] <Snugger> if anyone is free and able to help a newbie of ubuntu server, i would appreciate it =D
[01:42] <Snugger> can anyone help me please
[01:51] <Snugger> anyone here?
[02:16] <jmarsden> Snugger: http://pastebin.com/XejD1QAF  has info that is very brief about the two files to edit for doing that.  But I can't help with details, this is info from someone else I have not yet actually used it myself :)
[02:16] <jmarsden> Snugger: And this assumes your wireless NIC is already supported and visible as wlan0 , of course.
[03:06] <Delerium_> Hi Guys, I'm looking to implement a couple of chat room for my website, I was wondering if someone have experience with that and can suggest software to do so ?
[05:28] <Masshuu> Where would i look for a reason why mysql isn't starting when the server starts but it starts just fine if i start it via service mysql start
[05:28] <Masshuu> looked in /var/log/ but didn't see anything
[05:29] <Masshuu> start up scripts in there and all the right run levels
[05:30] <rewt> i'd guess /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg
[05:31] <rewt> maybe /var/log/mysql.*
[05:31] <Masshuu> tried those
[05:32] <rewt> and it's listed in /etc/rc2.d ?
[05:32] <rewt> (with an S number)
[05:32] <Masshuu> yeah
[05:33] <Masshuu> maybe change it to a higher or lower number?
[05:33] <rewt> runlevel tells you your current runlevel
[05:34] <rewt> should be 2 by default
[05:34] <rewt> which corresponds with /etc/rc2.d
[05:34] <Masshuu> yeah. i was refering to moving mysql to like 15 or 50
[05:34] <rewt> ohh
[05:34] <rewt> what's it at now?
[05:34] <Masshuu> 20
[05:35] <rewt> i guess you could try S90 to see if that helps
[05:37] <Masshuu> brb. irc client runs on the server(its a vps)
[05:37] <rewt> rgr
[05:38] <Masshuu> nope
[05:39] <rewt> hrmm
[05:40] <Snugger> yall familar with setting up wireless usb adapters for internet?
[05:41] <Masshuu> might be network interface isn't created yet?
[05:41] <Masshuu> would that cause it?
[05:41] <Masshuu> * setup yet
[05:42] <Snugger> yes i'm not sure how to correctly configure it
[05:42] <rewt> Masshuu, maybe, although that should show up in the logs
[05:42] <Snugger> i was given this link http://pastebin.com/XejD1QAF how do i intergrate that in to etc/network/interfaces?
[05:43] <Snugger> sorry i'm a newbie with ubuntu
[05:44] <rewt> Snugger, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[05:46] <rewt> Snugger, this seems like a more straight-forward answer: http://joost.damad.be/2007/01/debian-wifi-wpa-supplicant-and.html
[05:48] <Snugger> should i use nano or vi? and do i just simply type it in exactly as i see it?
[05:48] <rewt> nano/vi doesn't really matter; whatever you feel more comfortable with
[05:49] <rewt> you'd have to put in your configuration following that format
[05:49] <Masshuu> found a fix
[05:49] <Masshuu> added service mysql start
[05:49] <Masshuu> to the end of rc.local
[05:51] <rewt> Snugger, you may not need all of those lines though; this post doesn't have all of them:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-wpa-wpa2-wireless-wifi-networking/
[05:52] <ScottK> Masshuu: This is on a VPS?
[05:54] <Masshuu> yeah. openvz vps
[05:58] <delinquentme_> chmod commands are cross OS compatible right .. 700 for linux would be 700 for ubuntu?
[05:59] <rewt> ubuntu is linux
[06:00] <Masshuu> ubuntu is turning into the next mac
[06:03] <delinquentme_> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)
[06:03] <delinquentme_> attempting to SSH
[06:04] <delinquentme_> .ssh is chmodded to 700 .. and authorized_keys is 600
[06:05] <ScottK> Masshuu: Standard Ubuntu Server doesn't have this problem.  If you install mysql server it runs.  I suspect your provider of having improved it for you.
[06:06] <Snugger> how do you contact a specific person when typing in irc again?
[06:06] <delinquentme_> Snugger, /msg
[06:06] <delinquentme_> or type the first part of a name and hit tab
[06:06] <Snugger> thanks
[06:07] <ScottK> delinquentme_: What's the log say on the server end?
[06:07] <Snugger> rewt: my network adapter does not show up when i tpye in lscpi
[06:07] <ScottK> Snugger: lscpi or lspci?
[06:08] <delinquentme_> ScottK, im not sure i have access to that yet .. its an EC2 instance .. but i can get the verbose readout from my end
[06:08] <Snugger> lspci
[06:08] <ScottK> delinquentme_: Then look and see if it gives you any more clues.
[06:09] <ScottK> Snugger: This is a wifi adapter?
[06:09] <ScottK> If so, what kind?
[06:09] <Snugger> Netgear WG111 v3
[06:09] <delinquentme_> unspecified GSS failure?
[06:10] <rewt> hmm, i'm not sure if usb ones show up in lspci
[06:10] <Snugger> should i continue to step 3
[06:10] <delinquentme_> http://pastie.org/1987577  the part where it starts breaking :D
[06:11] <Snugger> rewt_: do i erase my previous eth0 config in the interfaces file?
[06:11] <rewt> Snugger, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732827
[06:12] <delinquentme_> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic    << this should mean that i can use either a public key or  a gssapi-with-mic
[06:12] <delinquentme_> to ssh in .. right?
[06:14] <Snugger> rewt: thank you i will try this
[06:33] <Snugger> rewt: problem, i believe the link you sent me only works for ubuntu desktop edition, while i have server edition, because i cannot use the gksudo gedit command
[06:41] <ScottK> Snugger: Instead of gksudo gedit use sudo nano
[06:57] <delinquentme_> im sshed into a linux box .. and id like to find out if theres in installed program called "crossbow"
[06:57] <delinquentme_> how might i do this
[07:07] <jeeves_moss> has anyone here been able to get FreeDB working?
[07:11] <Snugger> scottK or rewt, i've been able to successfully set up wireless connection with dhcp, but i would like to have static so i can host game servers, how do i static my wlan setting
[07:12] <ScottK> If you look for at the ubuntu server guide on static networking setup (see /topic) you ought to be able to extrapolate from the ethernet examples they have there to your setup.
[07:12] <jeeves_moss> the "any key" is the black toggle switch becide the power cord on your PSU
[07:13] <ScottK> delinquentme_: which crossbow would tell you if there's an executable of that name installed.
[07:14] <delinquentme_> "which crossbow"
[07:14] <ScottK> jeeves_moss: Please leave the sophomoric tricks elsewhere.  It's far too old to be funny and we prefer to actually try and help people here.
[07:14] <ScottK> Yes
[07:14] <delinquentme_> thats awesomely simple .. thanks
[07:15] <ScottK> Try 'which python' for an example that will show something.
[07:15] <delinquentme_> nice!
[07:15] <delinquentme_> yeah im on a AWS instance and apprently theres a few things that arent there
[07:15] <delinquentme_> dpkg is one of them
[07:16] <delinquentme_> tanks ScottK .. that commands gonna come in handy
[07:16] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[07:49] <Snugger> i've tried everything and my wireless connection will not function correctly,i set my inet to static so ic an host and now the internet won't connect. I am certain the ssid and psk are correct
[07:58] <Snugger> whenever i type if up wlan0 i get a wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daaemon failed to start
[07:58] <Snugger> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1
[08:23] <Snugger> anyone one think they can lend a hand?
[09:13] <Refael> hola, am looking for anybodys' assistance to create a loopback maneuver
[09:14] <Refael> Snugger: what did you need assistance with?
[09:22] <annone> hi all
[09:22] <annone> who can help me in my choice
[09:22] <annone> ?
[09:22] <annone> bitween ubuntu server and debian
[09:33] <Refael> ubuntu
[09:34] <Refael> is a very good os & has more options
[09:34] <Refael> there are various metapackages you could configure to work with ubuntu, etc.
[09:35] <Refael> it appears ubuntu is more actively developed
[09:47] <annone> Refael: what about stability? many people talk about ubuntu as a bug distr, and what debian is more stable
[09:49] <Refael> annone: if you talk to debian persons, they shall tell you bad things about ubuntu. The personal operating system is ubuntu & it has worked great from install to the present day & has a good support team & is highly developed & regularly upgraded
[09:51] <annone> can u say who used ubuntu server? goverment, commercical companies?
[09:52] <annone> Refael:
[09:52] <Refael> annone: si?
[09:52] <annone> dont understand
[09:52] <Refael> ah, many persons & corporations use ubuntu
[09:53] <annone> for example
[09:53] <Refael> could do a little research if you wished
[09:53] <Refael> what is it you are wishing to use the system for?
[09:53] <annone> in goverment
[09:54] <annone> as secure and stable
[09:54] <Refael> what type utility?
[09:55] <annone> datastore, ftp, cluster, apache, mysql, statistics
[09:55] <Refael> annone: dell & sunsoft use & support Ubuntu
[09:55] <annone> maybe think client
[09:55] <annone> we have dell servers
[09:56] <Refael> it could handle as a server & on client side simultane even
[09:56] <Refael> dell website, type ubuntu in search
[09:56] <Refael> often "Ubuntu Remix"
[09:57] <annone> Refael: what is sunsoft? sorry for my english, his bad... i'm from Ukraine
[09:58] <Refael> typically is "Ubuntu Remix" & is a type derivative
[09:58] <Refael> typical larger companies perhaps, though Ubuntu Server uses "Wine" to handle Windoze compatability
[09:59] <annone> what is sunsoft? what do u mean?
[09:59] <Refael> Dell is actively supporting "Ubuntu" Operating systems for optional OS
[10:00] <Refael> sunsoft is corporation, wait
[10:00] <annone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunsoft
[10:01] <annone> ?
[10:01] <Refael> perhaps am getting name wrong
[10:01] <annone> maybe u mean SUN?
[10:01] <annone> (oracle, java)
[10:01] <Refael> was a time since used windoze and am now using Linux alone
[10:01] <Refael> yes
[10:01] <Refael> is similar
[10:02] <annone> ok
[10:02] <Refael> IBM uses Linux on eServer
[10:02] <annone> Refael: 10x about that
[10:03] <annone> and i'm have more quations )
[10:03] <Refael> ok
[10:03] <annone> Does provide Ubuntu some free trainigs?
[10:04] <Refael> there are many manuals
[10:04] <annone> Webinars?
[10:04] <Refael> free online learning resources
[10:04] <Refael> si, similar
[10:04] <Refael> & there are many forums
[10:04] <annone> Certificate?
[10:04] <Refael> instant email notification
[10:04] <Refael> si, if you wish for Certificate, though is not necessary for anything
[10:05] <annone> i want be certificated pro administator, it's really?
[10:07] <annone> How to get to work in Canonical?
[10:08] <annone> Refael:
[10:09] <Refael> annone: there is no financial gain with doing such. If you wish to work with Linux, you would need to get a job with a company local to you & be that companies network administrator or a thing similar
[10:10] <Refael> You would really necessarily spend years learning Linux Systems & perhaps work your way in creating software applications to begin with
[10:11] <annone> ok, thank u very  much
[10:13] <Refael> annone: Ubuntu is a good election though
[10:14] <annone> Refael: and finally, what ubuntu is better than debian?
[10:15] <Refael> get Ubuntu 11.04 & test it for a few months
[10:15] <Refael> you can send personal email if you need assistance
[10:15] <Refael> *smiles*
[10:16] <annone> )
[10:16] <annone> thanks
[10:16] <annone> u r very helpful
[11:48] <RoyK> wtf is wrong with 11.04? I have tons of broken packages...
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> about no-ip: when my wan ip-address changes, my website is gone, hints&tips about settings or scripts, anyone? i followed these instructions, no errors, but it won't work http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/dynamic-dns-no-ip.html
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> it works the first time, only
[13:55] <Refael> hola, can anybody assist in creating a loopback for the personal local network?
[13:57] <Refael> am having difficulties with discovering any documentation in creating a loopback. Have personally looked all in the ubuntu & LQ forums & have discovered little. Can anybody assist por favor?
[14:17] <Snugger> is anyone avaliable?
[14:26] <RoyK>  
[14:28] <Snugger> roy can you help me configure my usb adapter for wireless?
[14:33] <Snugger> RoyK: can you help me configure my usb wireless adapter
[14:35] <RoyK> using a usb wireless on a server?
[14:37] <Snugger> yes
[14:38] <Snugger> i've been suggested multiple links and none have prevailed, i've edited my /etc/network/interfaces to wlan 0
[14:38] <Snugger> i know the system recognizes the adapter because i typed in ifconfig or iwconfig, and i saw the adapter show up
[14:39] <Snugger> but i can't seem to get it working with static let alone dhcp
[15:05] <Snugger> RoyK: you are confused too
[15:24] <Snugger> RoyK: You must be busy
[16:25] <fosterdv> How are you guys doing?!
[16:36] <fosterdv> Bit off topic, butt.. off the top of anyone's head.. does anyone know that site, where people people put their things that they script, it's some sort of project site.
[16:45] <qman__> pastebin?
[16:48] <Snugger> i get a /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon start error when i restart my network, i have no idea why
[16:51] <fosterdv> I believe it is... thanks qman__
[16:54] <fosterdv> Snugger, do you have a wireless card?
[16:57] <RoyK> w
[16:57] <RoyK> oops
[16:58] <Snugger> no i am not, i am using a wireless usb adapter
[16:58] <RoyK> with a server?
[17:01] <Snugger> yes and i know it's possible, i checked to see if my usb adapter was compatiable
[17:01] <RoyK> never setup something like that myself - sorry
[17:02] <Snugger> yes it is uncommon i have so many guides up but none have succeeded
[17:03] <Snugger> can anyone help me?
[17:06] <RoyK> Snugger: does it show up in ifconfig -a?
[17:08] <Snugger> RoyK: It shows under wlan0 that my Link encap:Ethernet, there should it say my usb wireless adapter there?
[17:09] <RoyK> that looks right
[17:10] <rewt> Snugger, did you get it working with dhcp?
[17:10] <RoyK> Snugger: what does iwconfig say?
[17:11] <Snugger> my iwconfig says IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID: "MY NETWORK NAME" Mode: Managed etc.. want me to list more
[17:11] <Snugger> as for dhcp, i will try it
[17:12] <Snugger> whats funny is when i do iwlist wla0 scan it scans fine and i see my network up there
[17:13] <Snugger> so i believe the device is fuctioning correctly
[17:18] <Snugger> and i get the same error when in dhcp
[17:20] <Snugger> rewt: dhcp yields the same error
[17:20] <Snugger> RoyK: my iwconfig says IEEE 802.11bg ESSID: "MY NETWORK NAME" Mode: Managed etc.. want me to list more
[17:25] <RoyK> Snugger: has it gotten an IP address?
[17:37] <RoyK> hm... if I enable homedir encryption - how do I turn that on with new users? useradd -m xxx doesn't seem to allow that
[17:37] <Snugger> RoyK: I did something and now it is not scanning..
[17:39] <RoyK> Snugger: I've only setup wlan on a server once, and that's out of reach as of now
[17:41] <Snugger> RoyK: I get an ip address but it is the static i set in network/interfaces
[17:52] <Snugger> I'm bout ready to just give up because everything i try does not work
[18:38] <SpaceBass> anyone using eccryptfs? I've tried creating a new user with --encrypt-home per the wiki, however, when that user logs in (via CLI) they cannot write to their ~/   ?. encryptfs-mount-private returns an error: encrypted private directory is not setup properly
[18:51] <Snugger> people here don't help very often, i apoligize
[19:30] <dbgster> I can't cd into a folder due to permissions
[19:30] <dbgster> sudo cd /path/folder doesn't work
[19:33] <qman__> dbgster, sudo -i
[19:34] <qman__> do what you need to do inside the root shell, then exit
[19:34] <qman__> just be careful
[20:06] <dbgster> how can i see if the package apache2 is sintalled?
[20:07] <dbgster> confused between apt and dpkg
[20:13] <robrt`> dpkg -l |  grep apache2
[20:14] <robrt`> or just dpkg -l "apache2", either way works
[20:14] <dbgster> thanks!
[20:21] <Lobo29> Question, Installed 11.04 32bit and finished fine on Dell 1650 server, but on reboot i get Cannot display this video mode, I need to edit Grub to fix, but how ?
[20:23] <Lobo29> Question, Installed 11.04 32bit and finished fine on Dell 1650 server, but on reboot i get Cannot display this video mode, I need to edit Grub to fix, but how ?
[20:27] <Lobo29> Question, Installed 11.04 32bit and finished fine on Dell 1650 server, but on reboot i get Cannot display this video mode, I need to edit Grub to fix, but how ?
[20:30] <rewt> Lobo29, once is enough
[20:33] <Lobo29> rewt, how to new people logging in see the question if its not reposted ?
[20:34] <rewt> you could wait an hour between asking so you don't re-ask the same question every time 1 person joins
[20:34] <Lobo29> what if that one person has my answer and leaves in 15 mins if nothing else is posted ?
[20:35] <robrt`> Lobo29, live disc, mount disk of installed system and edit grub conf?
[20:35] <rewt> then you try the next day
[20:35] <robrt`> (or patiently until someone else sees the question in the channel -- we're not all intently watching our screens for the next question to come up ;-) )
[20:36] <robrt`> +wait, somewhere in that sentence..
[20:37] <Lobo29> robrt, ty, i tried a live disk, but the raid drives are locked out that way, i can't access the files
[20:38] <rewt> you have /boot on a raid?
[20:38] <robrt`> exactly, /boot should be accessible
[20:38] <rewt> if all else fails, you should be able to re-create the grub config from scratch if you know the settings
[20:41] <Lobo29> ok, i'm noob on server install, my first try here - after drives load and bios ready,  ubuntu would start, but, thats when i get Cannot display video mode message
[20:41] <Lobo29> drives are config as one partition
[20:42] <Lobo29> i followed an example on webpage to make a clonezilla  server
[20:48] <rewt> try booting with a gparted livecd and see what partitions that sees
[20:48] <rewt> maybe you tried mounting the wrong one with the ubuntu livecd
[20:49] <rewt> although it should probably be on /dev/sda1
[20:53] <Lobo29> live cd booted and saw server drive with name I gave it "Clonezilla" , I could move thru the live cd files, but clicking on the Clonezilla drive, say it wasn't accessable
[21:04] <Lobo29> Anyone have suggestions on partitions for a Clonezilla server ?
[21:26] <dbgster> which folder is syslog in?
[21:26] <dbgster> is there a nice FAQ for all these common folders that I should know about?
[21:29] <guntbert> dbgster: /var/log, and yes, there is but I cannot remember
[21:30] <guntbert> dbgster: see http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[21:40] <guntbert> loua1: best ask your complete question - if anyone knows an answer they will say so
[21:44] <loua1> ty guntbert, im new to this
[21:45] <guntbert> loua1: :)
[21:46] <loua1> i have a thin client TK-3550 that i want to connect to ubunto server
[21:47] <guntbert> loua1: please keep your questions in one line (if possible)
[21:49] <loua1> how to connect TK-3550 to LTSP
[21:50] <qman__> the simplest way to run LTSP is via netboot
[21:50] <qman__> so you just need to enable netboot on the device if it supports it
[21:52] <loua1> qman - doesnt seem to be able for that
[21:53] <qman__> other options would then be installing a simple floppy or CD to boot, then look on the network
[21:53] <loua1> i got no cd or floppy drive on client
[21:53] <qman__> you can boot a USB flash drive as a floppy/CD
[21:54] <qman__> but something with no drives at all probably has netboot
[21:55] <loua1> well i cant choose boo order but your probably right
[21:58] <loua1> qman the client is  running on windows ce, can i do any thing with that
[22:02] <dbgster> guntbert it says software is installed in /etc/opt/
[22:02] <dbgster> but I installed apache2, and it is in /etc/apache2/
[22:03] <WinstonSmith>  in /etc/apache2/ are the config files
[22:03] <qman__> loua1, windows CE cannot connect to LTSP, you have to boot to the LTSP server in some way
[22:03] <qman__> whether that's netboot or a boot disk of some kind
[22:04] <WinstonSmith> where stuff gets installed depends on the distro
[22:04] <qman__> it's also possible to install a boot disk to the local hard drive, but it's the same idea
[22:04] <qman__> dbgster, software is usually installed in /usr
[22:04] <qman__> but configuration goes in /etc
[22:05] <dbgster> ah ok
[22:05] <dbgster> but /etc/opt is empty, no apache2 there.
[22:05] <qman__>  /opt can also house software, but it's usually reserved for software that is not maintained for your distro
[22:05] <qman__> such as third party commercial applications
[22:05] <dbgster> qman__:  i see
[22:06] <qman__>  /etc/opt would be configuration for those programs in /opt
[22:09] <loua1> qman - ty seems i need to find a way to install ubuntu from USB stick
[22:09] <dbgster> when a service daemon has started, I should look in: ps aux for the service.
[22:10] <dbgster> or /var/lib/service/run
[22:10] <dbgster> as it creates a pid file right?
[22:10] <qman__> dbgster, ps aux will show all processes, 'sudo service [servicename] status' will usually show if it's running
[22:10] <dbgster> is that the only way?
[22:12] <loua1> eit
[22:12] <loua1> exit
[22:21] <dbgster> i'm trying to run puppet using: /etc/init.d/puppetmaster start
[22:21] <dbgster> and I get: Could not run: Could not create PID file: /var/lib/puppet/run/master.pid
[22:21] <dbgster> but I did: /etc/init.d/puppetmaster stop before.
[22:22] <dbgster> shouldn't the PID lock file be removed?
[22:23] <qman__> are you running it as root?
[22:23] <dbgster> yes
[22:23] <dbgster> i'm running those commands as root
[22:23] <dbgster> but I believe internally it runs as puppet:puppet
[22:24] <qman__> yeah, I just meant the commands
[22:24] <qman__> I'd stop it as root, then check if that file exists and remove it if it does
[22:24] <dbgster> the PID 569 shows user puppet
[22:24] <dbgster> command: /usr/bin/ruby1.
[22:24] <qman__> and if any processes are still running, kill them
[22:25] <dbgster> but why doesn't /etc/init.d/puppetmaster work?
[22:25] <qman__> well, for one
[22:25] <qman__> that method is going away, as ubuntu moves to upstart
[22:25] <qman__> you should use service instead
[22:25] <qman__> because it's compatible with both
[22:26] <qman__> but, it's possible another puppet process started outside of the service management
[22:26] <qman__> in which case you should kill it and remove the pid file if it still exists
[22:26] <qman__> then start it with the service management
[22:26] <dbgster> ok
[22:26] <dbgster> kill -i PID ?
[22:26] <qman__> not sure what -i is
[22:27] <qman__> kill [pid] will work
[22:27] <dbgster> i did both: service puppet stop and service puppetmaster stop but ps aux still shows it.
[22:27] <dbgster> k
[22:40] <dbgster> to add a service to run on startup, I use: update-rc.d right?
[22:40] <dbgster> like: update-rc.d service-name default
[22:40] <dbgster> what if it was already setup like that, will that cause any issues?
[22:41] <dbgster> how can I tell what is and isn't already setup to start on boot
[23:07] <robrt`> dbgster, have a look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[23:10] <robrt`> This is a good article on upstart as well: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/125977
[23:11] <dbgster> robrt`: thanks
[23:13] <robrt`> dbgster, did you fix your earlier issue? If not, did you check the permissions on /var/lib/puppet?
[23:13] <dbgster> I just had to kill the PID
[23:13] <robrt`> Alright
[23:13] <dbgster> i'm still confused as to how ti started int he first place
[23:14] <dbgster> after reboots, I get it again.
[23:14] <dbgster> so i'm missing something :)
[23:14] <robrt`> Error message is not 100% clear; error creating, but it didn't specify why
[23:14] <robrt`> Yeah..
[23:15] <robrt`> See if you can reproduce it and strace the stop command .. see if it even attempts to remove the lockfile or not
[23:16] <robrt`> That'll at least show any errors it may encounter
[23:56] <WMP> hello
[23:56] <WMP> in grsec is possible to make privaleges to use one ip per only one user?
[23:56] <Andre_Gondim> does any one know how to block skype using iptables and without 7 layer?
[23:57] <WMP> eq: user max can use ip on eth0:0, user tom can use ip on eth0:1
[23:57] <WMP> ?