[01:02] <Cheri703> canthus13: I have an lpi study guide on my "waiting for a nook" list :)
[01:02]  * Cheri703 was doing stuff earlier :)
[01:12] <canthus13> Cheri703: I have one sitting in my dropbox that I mess with now and again.
[01:12]  * Cheri703 has several cert study guides
[01:13] <Cheri703> mostly comptia
[01:16] <Cheri703> back in a while
[01:26] <jgould> stupid router
[01:27] <canthus13> Heh.
[01:27] <canthus13> It's prolly crashing just to screw with you.
[01:29] <jgould> I've never figured it out, but we've had issues with wireless ever since we moved into this apartment.  The only thing that didn't was the Cisco Valet that is in CA right now because they are replacing it...
[01:37] <jgould> Also, everyone says that Apple's products are more expensive than the competition, but while I was at MicroCenter, I found a Sony laptop with specs that are less than waht I have now, for more money than I spent on the MacBook
[01:38] <canthus13> Sony is also proprietary crap...
[01:38] <jgould> Yes...  I just thought it was odd
[01:39] <canthus13> Apple has been trying to push their prices down a little, from what I've seen.. but you'll still pay through the nose for anything high-specc'd.
[01:40] <jgould> true
[01:44] <Cheri703> I have limited purchase options, I refuse to purchase dell or hp anything
[01:44] <Cheri703> so...it restricts what options there are for reasonable computers
[01:45] <Cheri703> toshibas are nice for mobile computers
[01:47] <canthus13> Dell kicks butt.
[01:47]  * canthus13 will never touch hp or toshiba again.
[01:49] <Cheri703> I've always had good experiences with toshiba and bad with dell (overall bad, a few decent here and there)
[01:57] <jgould> I had a Dell Inspiron 1150 just up and die on me one day... no warning, just died...
[01:57] <canthus13> Weird.  I've never had issues with dell that weren't self-inflicted.
[01:58] <jgould> I was actually looking at netbooks, but I don't know if I could get used to the smaller display and smaller keyboard...
[02:01] <jgould> I returned an 11" MacBook Air because the display sat too low and I kept getting neck strain...  (that machine would have been perfect for Ubuntu...)
[02:04] <jgould> Use the Mac Mini as a desktop and the netbook as a portable ops machine
[02:05]  * jgould ponders
[02:05] <canthus13> jgould: My wife's Dell 14z is a pretty decent compromise between portability and comfort.
[02:06] <jgould> The Lemur by Sys76 is about the same as this machine I'm using now
[02:07] <jgould> I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to migrate data from one machine to another under any distro of Linux...
[02:11]  * jgould ponders something.
[02:11] <jgould> I'll be right back
[02:11]  * Cheri703 is frustrated :(
[02:11] <jgould> what's up Cheri703
[02:11] <Cheri703> dealing with calibre and pdftohtml issues
[02:12] <jgould> Converting from PDF is a PITA
[02:12] <Cheri703> well, I got the project 90% done, and now when I try to convert the pdf to epub, it REVERTS to a previous form of the pdf that should have no relation to the current one :/
[02:15] <jgould> hmm... No idea
[02:16] <Cheri703> yeah, it's really annoying
[02:17] <Cheri703> original pdf was a scan that was 2 pages side by side (scan of a book), I went through, cropped out each page, got it all put back together properly as single pages, and when I run pdftohtml, it shows it as the dual pages again
[02:17] <Cheri703> it's REALLY weird
[02:17] <jgould> throw it out the window?
[02:17] <Cheri703> meh
[02:20] <canthus13> jgould: Not that difficult to migrate.
[02:20] <canthus13> jgould: Easiest if you run with a separate /home partition.
[02:20]  * jgould tries to install Xubuntu on a IBM Thinkpad t22
[02:20] <jgould> I do
[02:20] <jgould> on everything except my secondary server
[02:29] <jgould> I would imagine that you could just do an rsync to the new machine for the home directory.  I know that you can create a list of packages that are installed on one machine to install on another, but what do you do if you have some software that is not needed/wanted on the new install?
[02:36]  * jgould wonders if lubuntu would be better on the T22 as it's only a 700MHz processor with 384MB of Ram
[02:38] <jgould> And this T22 has the correct keys on it...
[02:44] <Unit193> jgould: Should work mostly fine
[02:46] <jgould> it's not doing bad on the LiveCD while installing.
[02:47] <Unit193> Mine didn't want to work right...
[02:51] <jgould> that happens some times.  I really wonder what I did with the alternate installer CD that I burned at one point...
[02:53] <Unit193> I may need to use some sort of boot option
[02:55]  * jgould passes a boot option on to Unit193
[03:03] <jgould> Are Lenovo's any good when it comes to Linux Support?
[03:17] <Cheri703> my mom is running 10.10 on a lenovo
[03:17] <Cheri703> seemed fine when I installed it
[03:18] <jgould> This T22 doesn't do too bad with the excepton that it needs a new battery and keyboard...
[03:20] <Cheri703> I may be mailing my hand-me-down dell laptop to my brother for his use...his netbook is dying, and he'll be on the other coast for the summer
[03:20] <Cheri703> (got the dell from a client who just wanted her data off of it and didn't want to keep it)
[03:25] <jgould> using a screen at 1024x768 is odd after using 1280x800 for 5 years...
[03:29]  * Unit193 has one laptop where the max is 800x600
[03:30] <jgould> This thinkpad would be good for writing... No wifi...
[03:48] <Cheri703> blargh
[03:57] <canthus13> Whee... this season of Dr. Who is making me freaking crazy so far....
[03:57] <Unit193> canthus13: I haven't seen the one for today...
[03:57] <canthus13> My kid's dell C840 is 1600X1200...
[03:57] <canthus13> Unit193: It's a bigger cliffhanger than last weeks.
[04:00] <Unit193> canthus13: I may wait a few days 'til I watch it then
[04:26] <Cheri703> rawr rawr
[04:27] <canthus13> blargh.
[04:28] <Cheri703> I think this thing is finally working how I want it to
[04:28] <Cheri703> this has been an ordeal -_-
[04:28] <Cheri703> BUT
[04:28] <Cheri703> if anyone ever wants to take a crappy dual page pdf and make it into an epub, I can help :)
[04:33] <Cheri703> eh, it mostly worked, I'll try it and the pdf when I get the nook and see
[04:55] <Unit193> scooter2: Did you get this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/614418/
[04:57] <scooter2> Unit193: Nope, I don't think so. I logged in with launchpad and then was prompted for my email address.
[04:59] <scooter2> Unit193: I think the error that I received earlier was the 503 mentioned in the email... does that sound right, or am I totally off qbout what you are asking?
[05:02] <Unit193> scooter2: Where you had it ask for your email. I had it ask too, but I think that was a "Link this site to Launchpad" thing...
[05:04] <scooter2> Unit193: Yes, it was a "Link this site to Launchpad" thing, if I remember correctly.
[05:05] <Unit193> That's not a new OpenID account
[05:05] <Cheri703> just put in your email and it is fine
[05:05] <Cheri703> and o/ scooter2 :)
[05:06] <Unit193> Cheri703: My only question is, what's the point?
[05:06] <Cheri703> because with single sign on, it has to recognize which sites it's logging you into, and that is to "register" it with the loco site
[05:07] <Cheri703> or something
[05:07] <Unit193> No. What's the point to login? I can't edit the page
[05:10] <Cheri703> oh, you should be able to
[05:10] <Cheri703> it's at the bottom of the map
[05:12] <Unit193> Ah! That's all I can do? Edit my location on the map? OK...
[05:12] <scooter2> It was a beautiful day today, but I think it is raining now. Such a shame, because someone had lit a fire and it has smelled so nice.
[05:13] <scooter2> I hope it was nice weather around your areas, too.
[05:15] <Unit193> Wow! SMK is really on the fringes!
[05:16] <Unit193> He's..... Far out? xD
[05:21] <Unit193> Howdy hoho, dmcglone1
[05:21] <Cheri703> it was decent today, was inside most of the day though :/
[05:21] <dmcglone1> Hi Unit193 :-)
[05:22] <dmcglone1> just got done hanging with friends and family for my wifes bday
[05:23]  * Unit193 had two grad parties
[05:24] <dmcglone1> Unit193: any updates on that db?
[05:25] <dmcglone1> My 2 nieces had a grad party today also, but I didn't go
[05:26] <dmcglone1> I'm kinda bummed out about the hurdles needed to send in our nominations :-/
[05:27] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: I pm'd paultag last time :)
[05:27] <Cheri703> will they not count it if you just email?
[05:27] <dmcglone1> I was going to send it in last night, but was reading gilberts instructions and said piss on it, I'll do it tomorrow
[05:27] <dmcglone1> I'm not sure Cheri703
[05:28] <dmcglone1> I wonder if a PGP signed message would work
[05:29] <Unit193> dmcglone1: I'm fat and lazy... Doing it now
[05:29] <Cheri703> probably
[05:29] <scooter2> Got to go. Have a nice night!
[05:29] <Unit193> Cheri703: Good timing :D
[05:29] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I'm boney and lazy and not doing it now :-0
[05:29] <Cheri703> hehe
[05:31] <dmcglone1> my back is feeling so much better today. I think by tomorrow it'll be 100%
[05:33] <Cheri703> yay
[05:34] <dmcglone1> I'm watching Jumanji with the girls, after this, I'm gonna relax and get ready to have a pain free back tomorrow :-)
[05:44] <canthus13> Nice... use a protest for cover.
[05:48] <canthus13> poor girl. :(
[05:50] <canthus13> The boss dude is dirty.
[05:52] <canthus13> Yup.
[05:53] <canthus13> I wonder how stinky he'll get before someone finds him...
[05:54] <Unit193> canthus13: I think you're in the wrong channel?
[05:54] <canthus13> bah. I think you're right.
[05:54] <Unit193> Or drunk...
[05:54] <canthus13> watchin a movie in ##club-ubuntu... dunno how I ended up here. :)
[05:54] <Unit193> :D
[05:55] <canthus13> don't mind me. :)
[05:55] <canthus13> Teh Bourne Supremacy.
[05:57] <Unit193> Ah...
[05:57] <Unit193> dmcglone1: My DB has more info than yours, this will kill it?
[05:58] <dmcglone1> we will figure out something
[05:58] <dmcglone1> for now, I'm heading to bed :-)
[05:58] <dmcglone1> Night all :-)
[05:58] <Unit193> Adios
[05:59] <canthus13> waitwhat? dmcglone was up at 1am?
[06:00] <Unit193> Nope... Look at the time: 00:58:51
[06:00] <Unit193> :D
[06:02] <canthus13> 01:01 -!- dmcglone1 [~david@cpe-174-101-53-3.columbus.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[06:03]  * Unit193 blames time diff :D
[06:08] <Cheri703> I showed 58:07
[06:08]  * canthus13 is synced to nist.
[06:09]  * Cheri703 is not that big a geek
[06:09] <canthus13> It's a simple checkbox. :)
[06:09] <Cheri703> hehe, I dunno what mine is synced to
[06:10] <canthus13> or maybe not.. Hrm.
[06:10] <canthus13> no. I'm about 2 minutes fast.
[06:10] <canthus13> weird.
[06:10] <Unit193> canthus13: Sync via CLI?
[06:10] <canthus13> guess I'm not synced.
[06:10] <Cheri703> mwah ha hahaa!!
[06:10] <Cheri703> vindication!
[06:10] <canthus13> Unit193: I don't think I ever set up ntp after I installed maverick.
[06:17] <Cheri703> can you tell I'm having a slow night -_-
[06:20] <Unit193> http://uberhumor.com/daily-morning-epicness-41-pictures/ /ignore that last one (or canthus13 save it)
[07:05] <Cheri703> was going to go to bed, but am not tired, just feel weird...
[07:05]  * Unit193 needs to get up around 8
[07:06]  * Cheri703 needs to get up before the pharmacy closes on monday
[07:53] <jgould> Cheri703: the pharmacy may not be open on monday, tis a holiday
[07:54] <Unit193> What is it?
[07:54] <jgould> Memorial Day
[07:56]  * Unit193 should stop playing with JITBot and adding factoids....
[07:57]  * jgould sells JITBot for scraps
[08:14]  * jgould loosk for crockpot recipies
[08:15] <Unit193> Linkmaster: ubottu db in rbot: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tennessee.team/ubotutn/ubotuTN/files/head:/utilities/
[08:16] <Unit193> ...or not
[08:18]  * jgould blinks
[08:18] <Unit193> rbot testing going on in alt...
[08:30]  * jgould slow cooks Unit193
[08:32] <Unit193> Eh? What did I do?
[08:32] <jgould> Nothing, and I'm hungry
[08:32] <jgould> you should be done in time for dinner
[08:33] <Unit193> I should be getting off if I'm going to be getting up at 8
[08:33] <jgould> yeah, you probably shdld
[08:33]  * jgould can't type
[08:34] <Unit193> rbot is really fun!
[08:50] <Unit193> Night! Get some good food, jgould
[08:55] <jgould> Ngiht
[09:55] <BiosElement> This...
[09:55] <BiosElement> This is simply amazing
[09:55] <BiosElement> http://twitter.com/#!/desandro/status/74697326890979328
[10:33] <jgould> BiosElement: where do you find this stuff
[10:33] <BiosElement> Hah that was by chance on twitter.
[10:37] <BiosElement> BTW jgould, try clicking buttons on the site :P
[10:39]  * jgould clicks on BiosElement
[10:39] <jgould> Any idea what time Panera opens on a Sunday morning?
[10:39] <BiosElement> haha, click enough buttons and you get a wonderful rainbow background
[10:39] <BiosElement> No  idea
[10:40] <BiosElement> Any of our Minecraft fans around?
[10:40] <BiosElement> Something truly amazing: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/109950-pass-it-on-underground-and-nether/
[10:40] <BiosElement> Bloody 'huge' Pass it on game.
[10:43] <BiosElement> One cool thing is that everything built is legit obtained ingame, not cheated in, which makes it that much more amazing
[10:43] <BiosElement> Basically been played for 7-ish months nonstop by different people
[10:45]  * jgould doesn't do minecraft
[10:47] <BiosElement> Blahh
[10:53] <jgould> We need to rectify bug #1
[11:15] <jgould> fucking flash
[11:22] <jgould> Sweet! Just fixed my flash under Firefox!
[16:00] <canthus13> He fixed flash? Quick! call Adobe!
[16:00] <Cheri703> will he have to wear the cone for a while so he doesn't lick his stitches? or does he heal really fast too?
[16:01] <canthus13> ??
[16:01]  * canthus13 read that as an emote, was really confused.
[16:01] <Cheri703> fixed = neutered flash = the guy
[16:02]  * canthus13 was picturing you in a cone, then the pronouns really threwh im. :)
[16:02] <Cheri703> heh
[18:03]  * Cheri703 is procrastinating some projects...and will continue to do so for a while longer
[18:05] <Unit193> Cheri703: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/1197586042253.jpg/
[18:06] <Cheri703> absolutely
[18:10] <Cheri703> Unit193: https://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/36624036-96d3-44d4-a3c2-304bcf54b101.jpg
[18:55] <Unit193> Drp
[19:00] <Unit193> canthus13: Did you ever see this? (Did I already link you?) http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html
[19:51] <canthus13> Unit193: that's what the Liquorix kernel has.
[19:54] <Unit193> canthus13: That works without a kernel patch
[19:54] <Unit193> canthus13: Play with KubotuReborn ;)
[20:29] <Cheri703> I have close to 70 books just waiting for a nook on which to read them...
[20:29] <Cheri703> :/
[20:33] <Cheri703> and a WHOLE bunch that I need to wade through
[21:26] <Unit193> Poor guy doesn't know what a LoCo is...
[21:27] <Unit193> Howdy gilbert
[21:28] <gilbert> greetings Unit193
[21:28] <gilbert> everybody go vote :)
[21:28] <Unit193> Eh... Yeah, I gotta go do that...
[21:33] <gilbert> i'm trying to be more active on irc.  haven't logged in for quite a while now
[21:33] <Cheri703> gilbert: some people were having difficulty / being discouraged by the whole gpg key thing or whatever
[21:34] <Unit193> gilbert: Some people don't do anything but IRC
[21:34] <Cheri703> perhaps an email saying "if you can't/don't want to deal with all of that, then you can still vote" ?
[21:34] <Cheri703> it's a lot of steps for someone to just cast a vote :/
[21:34] <gilbert> Cheri703: it's one step for a clearsign
[21:34] <Cheri703> I know the first time I had to do anything with it, it was a HASSLE
[21:34] <Cheri703> I don't know what you mean by clearsign
[21:35] <gilbert> Cheri703: a clearsign is when you sign a cleartext message
[21:35] <gilbert> Cheri703: the first option in the instructions i sent
[21:35] <Unit193> I have enigmail setup in Thunderbird... (Just not locally)
[21:36] <gilbert> Cheri703: but, yes, i agree. it is a bit of a barrier for someone unfamiliar with gpg
[21:36] <Cheri703> people feel like they HAVE to go through the hoops, so perhaps making that more clear, that they can just email directly
[21:36] <Cheri703> last election I just pm'd paultag...
[21:36] <Cheri703> :)
[21:36] <gilbert> Cheri703: i can send out another message with a getting started with gpg guide. do you think that would help?
[21:37] <Cheri703> yes, but also I personally don't think it's that important to have things OFFICIALLY signed in any way
[21:37] <Cheri703> if I were to send you an email with my vote (not to the list) then I'd think that should still count
[21:37] <Cheri703> it discourages people from participating
[21:38] <gilbert> Cheri703: is this coming from one person, or many?
[21:38] <Unit193> The deadline isn't here yet, I don't have to vote yet ;D
[21:38] <Cheri703> there have been a few comments, and it's also my personal opinion
[21:38] <gilbert> Unit193: true, just don't forget about it ;)
[21:39] <Unit193> That's going to be the hard part...
[21:39] <Cheri703> if I had just recently started using ubuntu, and I had recently joined the list, but wanted to participate in the election, I'd have been super intimidated by the processes outlined in the email you sent
[21:39] <Cheri703> not saying EVERYONE is like that, just saying
[21:39] <Cheri703> back when I started, I would have been o.O at that
[21:40] <gilbert> Cheri703: right, but i think it would actually be good to get people that feel intimidated by such a modest thing to just take the leap and get comfortable with it
[21:41] <Cheri703> perhaps then another email with a link to a walkthrough of gpg and an offer of help to anyone who might need assistance?
[21:41] <gilbert> Cheri703: yes, i think that could be good
[21:42] <Unit193> Cheri703: Then how did you join the ML??
[21:42] <Cheri703> and frankly, I have used gpg ONCE, so yes, it is a "modest thing" but...it's not something EVERYONE needs to know how to do...it's not like we're teaching people to use sudo apt-get or something
[21:42] <gilbert> Cheri703: my message does assume that people are already familiar with gpg basics, and i shouldn't assume that
[21:42] <Cheri703> Unit193: I didn't need a gpg key to join lp or the ml
[21:42] <gilbert> i'll send a message with a link to a guide
[21:42] <Cheri703> only needed it for the CoC
[21:42] <Unit193> Sign the CoC??
[21:43]  * Unit193 isn't fully here, Dr Who
[21:44] <Cheri703> when I signed the CoC I had to have a key
[21:44] <Cheri703> I have not used it since that point
[21:44] <Cheri703> at all, ever...until I vote apparently
[21:45] <gilbert> we should have non-repudiation for the election, and that requires a digital signature
[21:46] <Cheri703> *shrug* kk
[21:47] <gilbert> anyway, i'll bbl.  i'll try to get around to sending that email too
[21:54] <canthus13> Whee. we're sitting right under the moderate risk region today.. TOrnado watch, severe hail prediction... Woohoo.
[21:54] <canthus13> It just started pouring outta nowhere.
[21:57] <Unit193> Do any of the council members come here much?
[21:57] <Cheri703> yay canthus13
[21:58] <Cheri703> Unit193: *cough* perhaps soon *cough*
[21:59] <Unit193> Oohhhh! SMK is going to start visiting??
[21:59] <Unit193> ;D
[21:59] <Cheri703> mmmhm
[21:59] <canthus13> Unit193: jacob is always logged in...
[22:00] <Unit193> I wonder how much he is actually here...
[22:00] <canthus13> WOw. sideways rain.
[22:01] <Unit193> Cheri703: ^^^ We get it next
[22:01] <Cheri703> woo
[22:01] <Cheri703> jacob is the one stepping down though, so...
[22:02] <Unit193> canthus13 = the weatherman!
[22:04] <Cheri703> canthus13: know much about command-line things and extracting rar files?
[22:05] <Cheri703> or Unit193 for that matter
[22:05] <Unit193> Cheri703: What do you need to do?
[22:05] <Cheri703> I have ~90 folders, each with a rar file in it. I want to extract each of these rar files and KEEP THEM in the same folder they started in...basically the "extract here" command but on a massive automated scale....is that doable?
[22:06] <Cheri703> I've found various things online, but none of them work or are quite what I want
[22:09] <Cheri703> to make it more fun, some are .rar and some are .part1.rar
[22:29] <Unit193> Dang.... I need more keys for irssi windows...
[22:36] <Cheri703> I think we will get one little squall here Unit193, not like what canthus13 is getting
[22:37] <Unit193> I only have keys 'til 30 windows...
[22:37] <Unit193> Cheri703: Lets hope not... That's no fun!
[22:38] <Cheri703> yeah
[22:38] <Cheri703> I have something I want to put out on the curb, but I'm going to wait til after the rain / tomorrow
[22:38] <Unit193> You agree?? Na... I was thinking it would be fun to have the storm!
[22:38] <Cheri703> we put out several things shortly after moving here, put free signs on them, and they were all gone within 2 hours
[22:38] <Cheri703> one was in like 20 min
[22:38] <Unit193> That's how it works!
[22:39] <Cheri703> well, I want to get a dishwasher out of my garage!
[22:39] <Cheri703> it's been in there for MONTHS
[22:39] <Cheri703> well, in columbus, stuff might sit for a while
[22:39] <Cheri703> here it went FAST
[22:44] <gilbert> Cheri703: is http://quotedprintable.com/2005/10/23/gpg-quickstart-guide ok?
[22:44] <gilbert> Cheri703: or http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/ is perhaps a bit clearer
[22:45] <Unit193> Man... I want an ncurses interface to gpg...
[22:45] <Cheri703> checking now, was in the other room
[22:46] <Cheri703> I think the second one
[22:46] <Cheri703> at least on quick glance
[22:47] <gilbert> ok, second one it is
[22:52] <Unit193> Question: If it's encrypted, why do we send it to the list if you're the only person that can open it?
[22:53] <Cheri703> oh, one question gilbert: can we just assume I'm voting for myself or do I need to send in an official vote?
[22:53] <BiosElement> Cheri703: Official vote.
[22:54] <Cheri703> -_- ok
[22:54] <BiosElement> Unit193: Because it keeps an official record that you cast a vote for starters.
[22:54] <Cheri703> I don' wanna
[22:54] <Cheri703> I haven't seen any other votes hit the list, I'm assuming they're going straight to gilbert, yes?
[22:56] <Unit193> BiosElement: You didn't run this time?
[22:56] <BiosElement> Nope, I was sick with a pretty bad cough at the time and felt I didn't have enough time to properly do anything.
[22:58] <gilbert> Unit193: preferably Jon will send his fingerprint so he can see it as well.  the only people that can view that list right now are myself, Jacob, and Jon
[22:58] <Unit193> Anyone else get a bad sig from that msg?
[22:59] <gilbert> Cheri703: everyone needs to send a signed vote for it to be officially counted
[22:59] <gilbert> Unit193: yes, my first message has a bad sig
[22:59] <gilbert> Cheri703: yes, we're getting votes coming in
[22:59] <Unit193> gilbert: Thanks. I was thinking it was just me!
[23:06] <Unit193> itsafork: 20C489A3
[23:18] <Cheri703> I don't have to encrypt it if I'm just sending it to you gilbert, right?
[23:23] <Cheri703> >.< I think I deleted my old gpg info when I switched to 10.10...
[23:23]  * Cheri703 has to make a new key
[23:29] <Cheri703> vote sent
[23:31] <gilbert> Cheri703: no, encryption is actually only an option for the paranoid.  clearsign is perfectly good
[23:31] <Cheri703> kk
[23:54] <gilbert> email sent :)