| === Chat8764 is now known as LaRk_ | ||
| tumbleweed | Symmetria: your debian mirror is lagging again. Can you add some monitoring for this, please, it's a real pain | 08:54 |
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| sakhi | happy Sunday | 09:54 |
| afrodeity | maaz: coffee please | 12:11 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: There isn't a pot on | 12:11 |
| afrodeity | maaz: grind the beans | 12:11 |
| Maaz | afrodeity: *blink* | 12:11 |
| afrodeity | anybody happen to know what the correct permission should be for dchlient-script? | 12:12 |
| afrodeity | mine is -rwsr-xr-x but it no working | 12:12 |
| * Kilos shivers in silence | 16:12 | |
| Kilos | hi all | 16:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 16:22 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 16:22 | |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 16:22 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 16:22 |
| Kilos | i used a 6g drive and installed maverick without updating and then upgraded to natty and it works fine | 16:23 |
| Kilos | so will upgrade mine in aus when data not a prob | 16:23 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 16:26 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty buddy | 16:26 |
| Maaz | Kilos: *blink* | 16:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:26 |
| Kilos | stupid bot | 16:27 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: so are you enjoying Unity? | 16:30 |
| Kilos | it is the classic nlsthzn | 16:31 |
| Kilos | because it says my hardware no good | 16:31 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: still... that sucks... oh well... | 16:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:31 |
| * nlsthzn is now on the slickest Gnome 2.x install he as ever seen... Katya is so sexy... | 16:31 | |
| Kilos | is Katya an os | 16:32 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" | 16:32 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:32 |
| Kilos | i like gnome it is very noob friendly | 16:33 |
| Kilos | easy to use | 16:33 |
| Kilos | kubunt will take me months to work out | 16:33 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: :) once you get used to it you will find it as as easy as Gnome | 16:34 |
| Kilos | yeah just in the beginning nothing is visible. you gotta hunt | 16:34 |
| Kilos | and add to panel etc | 16:34 |
| afrodeity | this is annoying, sudo dhclient does nothing, and network-manager refuses to manage even a tadpole | 16:35 |
| Kilos | i am sure it will be a stiff challenge for office jacks and the like | 16:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:35 |
| afrodeity | I feel like we're being deprecated into dumb-down mode | 16:36 |
| marcog | afrodeity: if ubuntu is too dumbed-down for you, there are many other distros out there | 16:38 |
| Kilos | like windows | 16:38 |
| marcog | i mean linux distros :P | 16:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:39 |
| marcog | like gentoo, arch, etc. | 16:39 |
| Kilos | dont upset him marcog | 16:39 |
| Kilos | he is an expert ranter | 16:39 |
| marcog | i don't mean to upset | 16:39 |
| marcog | lol Kilos | 16:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:39 |
| nlsthzn | Ubuntu suites me cause you can install and use it... as opposed to setting it up to make it useful :) | 16:41 |
| marcog | same here | 16:41 |
| Kilos | yeah | 16:41 |
| marcog | but there's no one-size-fits-all | 16:41 |
| Kilos | ubuntu ++ | 16:41 |
| nlsthzn | and in that vain Mint does even a better job of that than Ubuntu... | 16:41 |
| nlsthzn | install and go... | 16:41 |
| marcog | i explored more distros back when i had the time | 16:42 |
| marcog | right now, ubuntu gets the job done and is widely supported by the community | 16:42 |
| nlsthzn | True... | 16:42 |
| afrodeity | febuntu? | 16:43 |
| nlsthzn | afrodeity: ? | 16:45 |
| afrodeity | I upgraded my kernel because they got rid of the kernel lock in 39 | 16:45 |
| nlsthzn | afrodeity: have they also sorted out the power regression that was reported? | 16:46 |
| afrodeity | 39 appears to be huge improvement on 38 which was problematic | 16:47 |
| afrodeity | no laptop, so can't report on power issues | 16:47 |
| * afrodeity is listening to Trihedron featuring Opus - DJ Krush (The Message At The Depth) ::: 01. DJ Krush - Trihedron featuring Opus.mp3 ::: 00:35/06:33 @ 192kbps | 16:48 | |
| superfly | afrodeity: did you try to add the interface name after "dhclient"? That *always* works for me | 17:03 |
| afrodeity | yep, tried sudo dhclient eth0 | 17:24 |
| afrodeity | which command lists interfaces again? | 17:25 |
| queery | iwlist | 17:26 |
| queery | is that what you are looking for? | 17:26 |
| queery | of ifconfig | 17:26 |
| afrodeity | :) | 17:27 |
| afrodeity | iwlist is a new one | 17:28 |
| queery | yea but don't work with all eth | 17:28 |
| queery | I like it for wifi scanning | 17:28 |
| queery | sudo iwlist scan | 17:28 |
| afrodeity | interface no support scanning | 17:29 |
| queery | you have to be root or sudo to scan the wifi (i'v found) | 17:30 |
| afrodeity | I am root | 17:30 |
| queery | oh ok | 17:30 |
| queery | then it's back to ifconfig | 17:30 |
| afrodeity | I wish we hadn't split the browser from the os | 17:31 |
| queery | hu? | 17:32 |
| afrodeity | off topic, but it would be faster if we just booted into a browser | 17:32 |
| queery | ok im out | 17:33 |
| queery | l8er tweeps | 17:33 |
| afrodeity | oops | 17:33 |
| superfly | afrodeity: since when was the browser part of the OS (apart from Windows) | 17:40 |
| magellanic | and chromeos ;) | 17:42 |
| superfly | magellanic: it's still not technically part of the OS, it's the desktop shell | 17:44 |
| magellanic | okay, isn't that the same case with windows then | 17:45 |
| superfly | no, with Windows, the Trident engine is a system DLL | 17:46 |
| superfly | remember that with Windows, the GUI is part of the OS, they are integrated and inseparable | 17:46 |
| superfly | on Linux our GUI apps run in X, which itself is just another app on the box | 17:46 |
| magellanic | hmm okay | 17:47 |
| afrodeity | it is in a sense, if you surf via a shell, but its an architectural problem | 17:50 |
| kbmonkey | evening | 18:34 |
| superfly | hi kbmonkey | 18:46 |
| kbmonkey | hi superfly | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lo kbmonkey | 19:03 |
| Kilos | kinda cold to sit here | 19:03 |
| superfly | Kilos: get a blanket and put it over your legs | 19:06 |
| Kilos | lol. got one but fingers freeze too | 19:07 |
| superfly | ah | 19:08 |
| Kilos | wait i get a beanie for ears as well | 19:08 |
| superfly | it's not that cold here | 19:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:08 |
| superfly | hehe | 19:08 |
| kbmonkey | just type faster! he he | 19:08 |
| Kilos | then no one will understand | 19:08 |
| kbmonkey | kubuntu 11.04 usb wont boot up on my netbook :/ | 19:08 |
| * superfly gets his "No I won't fix your computer!" quilt his mom-in-law made | 19:09 | |
| kbmonkey | I want a throw with tux on it | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | hot chocolate help too | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | just dont burn your fingers when you dip them | 19:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:10 |
| Kilos | how many usb ports you got kbmonkey | 19:24 |
| Kilos | do they all not work | 19:24 |
| kbmonkey | 4 back and 2 front and they all work | 19:25 |
| Kilos | kubuntu 11.04 usb wont boot up on my netbook :/ ?? | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | 4x-usb hub connected too. having port problems? | 19:25 |
| Kilos | what am i missing | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | which ones? | 19:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:26 |
| Kilos | you said you got that prob not me | 19:26 |
| kbmonkey | oh lol, no the usb ports work fine, the usb disk wont boot :) | 19:27 |
| Kilos | my maverick works but member with karmic and the lynx i sometimes had to move things from port to port | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | just black, no text nothing. I boot other OS's fine | 19:27 |
| Kilos | whats on the stick | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | kubuntu 11.04 | 19:27 |
| kbmonkey | I used tuxboot to make it from a ISO | 19:27 |
| Kilos | then you didnt do the iso thing right | 19:27 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:28 |
| kbmonkey | however I made the ISO from a CD using dd. that should be fine hey? | 19:28 |
| kbmonkey | tuxboot is a updated fork of unetbooting | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i only made one and used the startup disk creator | 19:28 |
| Kilos | copied iso to desktop and then did it | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | ah, well I dont have the startup disk creator as Im in a crunchbang linux :) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | ah i learn more | 19:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:29 |
| Kilos | i went to all the trouble of making a boot stick then found my pc cant do the usb boot thing hehe | 19:31 |
| kbmonkey | me too! | 19:31 |
| Kilos | i remember something about unetbootin as well. cant remember where it fitted in | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | that was the tool recommended on the Ubuntu help wiki to make usb disks | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ah maybe i did that too | 19:32 |
| Kilos | now just need someone to invent a heated keyboard for winter | 19:33 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: the main ubuntu site recommends how to make a bootable USB... but it won't matter if your hardware doesn't support it :) | 19:40 |
| Kilos | lol yeah. | 19:40 |
| nlsthzn | as soon as youtube finishes uploading a vid a made I will making a blog post about linux mint 11 with some eye-candy :) | 19:42 |
| Kilos | how do you know if a site has got probs | 19:43 |
| Kilos | i used this till a week ago and now it dont work anymore | 19:43 |
| Kilos | Unable to load page | 19:44 |
| Kilos | Problem occurred while loading the URL http://www.fsms.co.za/next-gen/messages/compose | 19:44 |
| Kilos | Cannot connect to destination (www.fsms.co.za) | 19:44 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ | 19:44 |
| kbmonkey | cool, give us the link when you do nlsthzn | 19:44 |
| nlsthzn | kbmonkey: will do | 19:45 |
| Kilos | lol. just me it says | 19:45 |
| Kilos | wonder who there doesnt like me | 19:46 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: let me try | 19:46 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: so far no go for me | 19:46 |
| Kilos | i get there but it doesnt send anymore | 19:46 |
| Kilos | http://www.fsms.co.za/ | 19:47 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: ah I am also in now... but it seems slow | 19:47 |
| Kilos | i went there and did the register bit about a month ago and it worked kiff | 19:47 |
| nlsthzn | maybe the service is a bit over loaded... try refreshing using ctrl+f5 | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:48 |
| Kilos | now it tells me vodacom is doing maintenance work on their sms site | 19:50 |
| Kilos | for the last week? | 19:50 |
| Kilos | can only be in africa | 19:50 |
| kbmonkey | you sound surprised ;P | 19:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:56 |
| Kilos | works to mtn though so i am happy its not here by me | 19:57 |
| Kilos | didnt think of trying to a mtn fone till now | 19:57 |
| Kilos | actually very kiff when it works that site. you send free smses in sa | 19:58 |
| Kilos | now i want to find one that works to aus | 19:59 |
| kbmonkey | superfly, you do any/occasional CSS? Know a nice editor? | 19:59 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: I usually use Kate for HTML and CSS | 20:00 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: that is nice... I pay a pretty penny sending messages from here to SA | 20:00 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, i think all you need is a sa fone number to register with then it will work from there too | 20:01 |
| Kilos | i was skeptical first so used a sim no. i dont use anymore and it worked fine | 20:02 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: lol, I still have a contract that I have been unable to cancel for more than a year now :/ | 20:02 |
| Kilos | good use that one | 20:02 |
| Kilos | i am sure it will work and you get 20 smses a day | 20:02 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: over kill :) | 20:03 |
| Kilos | you dont have to use them dodo | 20:03 |
| Kilos | i used 2 or 3 a week | 20:03 |
| nlsthzn | so annoying uploading video @ 100kbps :/ | 20:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:05 |
| Kilos | try gprs | 20:05 |
| Kilos | 14K onna good day | 20:05 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: 3G is nice and fast | 20:06 |
| Kilos | but with broadband you get limited by the providers | 20:06 |
| Kilos | this modem is only 6 months old and boet not sure if its a 3.2m/s or the 7.? | 20:07 |
| superfly | Kilos: probably a 7,2 | 20:08 |
| Kilos | but havent seen it over 200KB/s here yet | 20:08 |
| superfly | *7.2 | 20:08 |
| Kilos | then i had the 3.? wrong | 20:08 |
| Kilos | 3.6 hey | 20:09 |
| nlsthzn | you should get close to 1mbps with 3G if memory serves... best way to test is to get a torrent with enough seeders... | 20:10 |
| Kilos | yeah so they say. i am sure they choke the things | 20:11 |
| Kilos | or their servers or whatever they got | 20:11 |
| Kilos | no data to test things. was on gprs so long even 100K is great | 20:12 |
| nlsthzn | :) the more you get the sooner you realize it isn't enought :) | 20:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:13 |
| Kilos | you didnt read the need for speed | 20:13 |
| Kilos | but with data at this price uncapped is the answer | 20:14 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: yup... biggest bargain here is the fact that is uncapped... | 20:15 |
| Kilos | yeah must be heaven | 20:16 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: yup... coming to SA in December and the first thought I was how am I going to do anything online ... here if you don't have internet there are hordes of cheap internet cafes everywhere... you are always connected :/ | 20:17 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 20:18 |
| nuvolari | naand om Kilos, nlsthzn | 20:18 |
| nlsthzn | nuvolari: hey | 20:18 |
| Kilos | naand nuvolari | 20:18 |
| kbmonkey | naand! | 20:21 |
| Kilos | lol naand apie | 20:21 |
| nuvolari | hallo kbmonkey | 20:21 |
| kbmonkey | lol kbapie | 20:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:22 |
| Kilos | sbapie | 20:22 |
| Kilos | dont mix your tales | 20:23 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 20:23 |
| kbmonkey | oook oook | 20:24 |
| nlsthzn | You speak the language most deliciously | 20:24 |
| * kbmonkey pushes the banana button on the keyboard and a fruit drops from a slot | 20:24 | |
| kbmonkey | aah, no electrical shocks today | 20:24 |
| Kilos | hehehe | 20:28 |
| nuvolari | lol | 20:34 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, try that sms goodie i am hoping it works from aus | 20:34 |
| Kilos | you can be the guinee pig | 20:35 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: k... give me a moment | 20:35 |
| Kilos | k | 20:35 |
| nuvolari | guinea? | 20:35 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: site is s l o w ... zzzzz | 20:36 |
| Kilos | yeah not written in python | 20:36 |
| Kilos | used to be faster a month back | 20:37 |
| Kilos | i think they didnt expect so many peeps to use it so its not big enough | 20:37 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: one problem... how do you get a reply ? :p | 20:41 |
| Kilos | in your inbox | 20:42 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: oh... and now I need to give a code... yet I have no idea where that bloody sim card is... or what my pin is... but it seems it will work fine from anywhere on the planet... no issues as yet | 20:43 |
| Kilos | sorry for all the hard work but if you get it working you can save some | 20:44 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: nah not really... much more hassle than it is worth... when I hit SA in December I am cancelling it in any case | 20:47 |
| Kilos | yeah but this fsms works great if they will just upgrade it | 20:48 |
| Kilos | and smses to aus are close to R2 a time | 20:49 |
| nuvolari | I'm beat. g'night everyone | 21:02 |
| Kilos | nag seun. lekker slaap | 21:03 |
| nlsthzn | nuvolari: good night | 21:04 |
| Kilos | methinks it be a good idea to go sleep too. night all of you | 21:08 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: good night... | 21:10 |
| kbmonkey | g'nite to all going to zzz :) | 21:14 |
| nlsthzn | kbmonkey: http://nlsthzn.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/hello-katya-my-latest-mistress/ for your viewing pleasure... | 21:14 |
| nlsthzn | doh too late... | 21:15 |
| nlsthzn | night kbmonkey | 21:15 |
| nlsthzn | cheers all... got to get my beauty sleep too :) | 21:16 |
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