=== Chat8764 is now known as LaRk_ [08:54] Symmetria: your debian mirror is lagging again. Can you add some monitoring for this, please, it's a real pain [09:54] happy Sunday [12:11] maaz: coffee please [12:11] afrodeity: There isn't a pot on [12:11] maaz: grind the beans [12:11] afrodeity: *blink* [12:12] anybody happen to know what the correct permission should be for dchlient-script? [12:12] mine is -rwsr-xr-x but it no working [16:12] * Kilos shivers in silence [16:22] hi all [16:22] Maaz, coffee on [16:22] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:22] hi Kilos [16:22] hi superfly [16:23] i used a 6g drive and installed maverick without updating and then upgraded to natty and it works fine [16:23] so will upgrade mine in aus when data not a prob [16:26] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [16:26] Maaz, ty buddy [16:26] Kilos: *blink* [16:26] hehe [16:27] stupid bot [16:30] Kilos: so are you enjoying Unity? [16:31] it is the classic nlsthzn [16:31] because it says my hardware no good [16:31] Kilos: still... that sucks... oh well... [16:31] lol [16:31] * nlsthzn is now on the slickest Gnome 2.x install he as ever seen... Katya is so sexy... [16:32] is Katya an os [16:32] Kilos: Linux Mint 11 "Katya" [16:32] ah [16:33] i like gnome it is very noob friendly [16:33] easy to use [16:33] kubunt will take me months to work out [16:34] Kilos: :) once you get used to it you will find it as as easy as Gnome [16:34] yeah just in the beginning nothing is visible. you gotta hunt [16:34] and add to panel etc [16:35] this is annoying, sudo dhclient does nothing, and network-manager refuses to manage even a tadpole [16:35] i am sure it will be a stiff challenge for office jacks and the like [16:35] lol [16:36] I feel like we're being deprecated into dumb-down mode [16:38] afrodeity: if ubuntu is too dumbed-down for you, there are many other distros out there [16:38] like windows [16:39] i mean linux distros :P [16:39] lol [16:39] like gentoo, arch, etc. [16:39] dont upset him marcog [16:39] he is an expert ranter [16:39] i don't mean to upset [16:39] lol Kilos [16:39] hehe [16:41] Ubuntu suites me cause you can install and use it... as opposed to setting it up to make it useful :) [16:41] same here [16:41] yeah [16:41] but there's no one-size-fits-all [16:41] ubuntu ++ [16:41] and in that vain Mint does even a better job of that than Ubuntu... [16:41] install and go... [16:42] i explored more distros back when i had the time [16:42] right now, ubuntu gets the job done and is widely supported by the community [16:42] True... [16:43] febuntu? [16:45] afrodeity: ? [16:45] I upgraded my kernel because they got rid of the kernel lock in 39 [16:46] afrodeity: have they also sorted out the power regression that was reported? [16:47] 39 appears to be huge improvement on 38 which was problematic [16:47] no laptop, so can't report on power issues [16:48] * afrodeity is listening to Trihedron featuring Opus - DJ Krush (The Message At The Depth) ::: 01. DJ Krush - Trihedron featuring Opus.mp3 ::: 00:35/06:33 @ 192kbps [17:03] afrodeity: did you try to add the interface name after "dhclient"? That *always* works for me [17:24] yep, tried sudo dhclient eth0 [17:25] which command lists interfaces again? [17:26] iwlist [17:26] is that what you are looking for? [17:26] of ifconfig [17:27] :) [17:28] iwlist is a new one [17:28] yea but don't work with all eth [17:28] I like it for wifi scanning [17:28] sudo iwlist scan [17:29] interface no support scanning [17:30] you have to be root or sudo to scan the wifi (i'v found) [17:30] I am root [17:30] oh ok [17:30] then it's back to ifconfig [17:31] I wish we hadn't split the browser from the os [17:32] hu? [17:32] off topic, but it would be faster if we just booted into a browser [17:33] ok im out [17:33] l8er tweeps [17:33] oops [17:40] afrodeity: since when was the browser part of the OS (apart from Windows) [17:42] and chromeos ;) [17:44] magellanic: it's still not technically part of the OS, it's the desktop shell [17:45] okay, isn't that the same case with windows then [17:46] no, with Windows, the Trident engine is a system DLL [17:46] remember that with Windows, the GUI is part of the OS, they are integrated and inseparable [17:46] on Linux our GUI apps run in X, which itself is just another app on the box [17:47] hmm okay [17:50] it is in a sense, if you surf via a shell, but its an architectural problem [18:34] evening [18:46] hi kbmonkey [18:51] hi superfly [19:03] lo kbmonkey [19:03] kinda cold to sit here [19:06] Kilos: get a blanket and put it over your legs [19:07] lol. got one but fingers freeze too [19:08] ah [19:08] wait i get a beanie for ears as well [19:08] it's not that cold here [19:08] lol [19:08] hehe [19:08] just type faster! he he [19:08] then no one will understand [19:08] kubuntu 11.04 usb wont boot up on my netbook :/ [19:09] * superfly gets his "No I won't fix your computer!" quilt his mom-in-law made [19:09] I want a throw with tux on it [19:10] hot chocolate help too [19:10] just dont burn your fingers when you dip them [19:10] hehe [19:24] how many usb ports you got kbmonkey [19:24] do they all not work [19:25] 4 back and 2 front and they all work [19:25] kubuntu 11.04 usb wont boot up on my netbook :/ ?? [19:25] 4x-usb hub connected too. having port problems? [19:25] what am i missing [19:26] which ones? [19:26] lol [19:26] you said you got that prob not me [19:27] oh lol, no the usb ports work fine, the usb disk wont boot :) [19:27] my maverick works but member with karmic and the lynx i sometimes had to move things from port to port [19:27] just black, no text nothing. I boot other OS's fine [19:27] whats on the stick [19:27] kubuntu 11.04 [19:27] I used tuxboot to make it from a ISO [19:27] then you didnt do the iso thing right [19:28] ah [19:28] however I made the ISO from a CD using dd. that should be fine hey? [19:28] tuxboot is a updated fork of unetbooting [19:28] i only made one and used the startup disk creator [19:29] copied iso to desktop and then did it [19:29] ah, well I dont have the startup disk creator as Im in a crunchbang linux :) [19:29] ah i learn more [19:29] lol [19:31] i went to all the trouble of making a boot stick then found my pc cant do the usb boot thing hehe [19:31] me too! [19:32] i remember something about unetbootin as well. cant remember where it fitted in [19:32] that was the tool recommended on the Ubuntu help wiki to make usb disks [19:32] ah maybe i did that too [19:33] now just need someone to invent a heated keyboard for winter [19:40] Kilos: the main ubuntu site recommends how to make a bootable USB... but it won't matter if your hardware doesn't support it :) [19:40] lol yeah. [19:42] as soon as youtube finishes uploading a vid a made I will making a blog post about linux mint 11 with some eye-candy :) [19:43] how do you know if a site has got probs [19:43] i used this till a week ago and now it dont work anymore [19:44] Unable to load page [19:44] Problem occurred while loading the URL http://www.fsms.co.za/next-gen/messages/compose [19:44] Cannot connect to destination (www.fsms.co.za) [19:44] Kilos: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ [19:44] cool, give us the link when you do nlsthzn [19:45] kbmonkey: will do [19:45] lol. just me it says [19:46] wonder who there doesnt like me [19:46] Kilos: let me try [19:46] Kilos: so far no go for me [19:46] i get there but it doesnt send anymore [19:47] http://www.fsms.co.za/ [19:47] Kilos: ah I am also in now... but it seems slow [19:47] i went there and did the register bit about a month ago and it worked kiff [19:47] maybe the service is a bit over loaded... try refreshing using ctrl+f5 [19:48] ok [19:50] now it tells me vodacom is doing maintenance work on their sms site [19:50] for the last week? [19:50] can only be in africa [19:51] you sound surprised ;P [19:56] lol [19:57] works to mtn though so i am happy its not here by me [19:57] didnt think of trying to a mtn fone till now [19:58] actually very kiff when it works that site. you send free smses in sa [19:59] now i want to find one that works to aus [19:59] superfly, you do any/occasional CSS? Know a nice editor? [20:00] kbmonkey: I usually use Kate for HTML and CSS [20:00] Kilos: that is nice... I pay a pretty penny sending messages from here to SA [20:01] nlsthzn, i think all you need is a sa fone number to register with then it will work from there too [20:02] i was skeptical first so used a sim no. i dont use anymore and it worked fine [20:02] Kilos: lol, I still have a contract that I have been unable to cancel for more than a year now :/ [20:02] good use that one [20:02] i am sure it will work and you get 20 smses a day [20:03] Kilos: over kill :) [20:03] you dont have to use them dodo [20:03] i used 2 or 3 a week [20:04] so annoying uploading video @ 100kbps :/ [20:05] lol [20:05] try gprs [20:05] 14K onna good day [20:06] Kilos: 3G is nice and fast [20:06] but with broadband you get limited by the providers [20:07] this modem is only 6 months old and boet not sure if its a 3.2m/s or the 7.? [20:08] Kilos: probably a 7,2 [20:08] but havent seen it over 200KB/s here yet [20:08] *7.2 [20:08] then i had the 3.? wrong [20:09] 3.6 hey [20:10] you should get close to 1mbps with 3G if memory serves... best way to test is to get a torrent with enough seeders... [20:11] yeah so they say. i am sure they choke the things [20:11] or their servers or whatever they got [20:12] no data to test things. was on gprs so long even 100K is great [20:13] :) the more you get the sooner you realize it isn't enought :) [20:13] lol [20:13] you didnt read the need for speed [20:14] but with data at this price uncapped is the answer [20:15] Kilos: yup... biggest bargain here is the fact that is uncapped... [20:16] yeah must be heaven [20:17] Kilos: yup... coming to SA in December and the first thought I was how am I going to do anything online ... here if you don't have internet there are hordes of cheap internet cafes everywhere... you are always connected :/ [20:18] o/ [20:18] naand om Kilos, nlsthzn [20:18] nuvolari: hey [20:18] naand nuvolari [20:21] naand! [20:21] lol naand apie [20:21] hallo kbmonkey [20:21] lol kbapie [20:22] lol [20:22] sbapie [20:23] dont mix your tales [20:23] :) [20:24] oook oook [20:24] You speak the language most deliciously [20:24] * kbmonkey pushes the banana button on the keyboard and a fruit drops from a slot [20:24] aah, no electrical shocks today [20:28] hehehe [20:34] lol [20:34] nlsthzn, try that sms goodie i am hoping it works from aus [20:35] you can be the guinee pig [20:35] Kilos: k... give me a moment [20:35] k [20:35] guinea? [20:36] Kilos: site is s l o w ... zzzzz [20:36] yeah not written in python [20:37] used to be faster a month back [20:37] i think they didnt expect so many peeps to use it so its not big enough [20:41] Kilos: one problem... how do you get a reply ? :p [20:42] in your inbox [20:43] Kilos: oh... and now I need to give a code... yet I have no idea where that bloody sim card is... or what my pin is... but it seems it will work fine from anywhere on the planet... no issues as yet [20:44] sorry for all the hard work but if you get it working you can save some [20:47] Kilos: nah not really... much more hassle than it is worth... when I hit SA in December I am cancelling it in any case [20:48] yeah but this fsms works great if they will just upgrade it [20:49] and smses to aus are close to R2 a time [21:02] I'm beat. g'night everyone [21:03] nag seun. lekker slaap [21:04] nuvolari: good night [21:08] methinks it be a good idea to go sleep too. night all of you [21:10] Kilos: good night... [21:14] g'nite to all going to zzz :) [21:14] kbmonkey: http://nlsthzn.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/hello-katya-my-latest-mistress/ for your viewing pleasure... [21:15] doh too late... [21:15] night kbmonkey [21:16] cheers all... got to get my beauty sleep too :)