| virtu | http://www.4shared.com/audio/ig7u0ane/KORG_nanoKEY.html? | 03:28 |
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| Red_ | hi guys.... can someone tell me how to join multiple channels of a server on Xchat-gnome Irc client | 06:20 |
| Red_ | ? | 06:20 |
| radjahzik | hi | 18:21 |
| radjahzik | i have ubuntustudio 11 and sometime its frizz | 18:21 |
| radjahzik | i can made anything i'm obliged to reboot | 18:22 |
| radjahzik | have you an idea | 18:22 |
| radjahzik | can i setup the memory or else ??? | 18:24 |
| radjahzik__ | how switch off a window frizzing | 18:40 |
| radjahzik__ | is there a trick? | 18:41 |
| radjahzik__ | like CTRL + ?? | 18:41 |
| holstein | radjahzik: o/ | 19:16 |
| holstein | what do you mean by 'frizzing' ? | 19:16 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i would look at http://loco.ubuntu.com/ | 19:19 |
| holstein | UI issues are going to be generic to both ubuntu and ubuntustudio | 19:19 |
| radjahzik | please help me to config jackd | 21:26 |
| radjahzik | i install him no problem | 21:26 |
| radjahzik | i set a config no problem | 21:26 |
| radjahzik | i add a effect no problem | 21:26 |
| holstein | effect? | 21:26 |
| radjahzik | i start a rec application and the computer frizz "stop " | 21:27 |
| holstein | radjahzik: what are your JACK setting? | 21:27 |
| holstein | maybe just relax them a bit | 21:27 |
| radjahzik | Calg plugin | 21:27 |
| holstein | frames/period 1024 | 21:27 |
| holstein | and periods/buffer 3 | 21:28 |
| radjahzik | ok that done 64 ms latences !! | 21:29 |
| radjahzik | no 69.7 | 21:30 |
| radjahzik | buffer was 2 | 21:30 |
| radjahzik | not 1024 but 64 | 21:30 |
| radjahzik | priorité 60 | 21:30 |
| radjahzik | so priority ?? | 21:31 |
| holstein | radjahzik: nope | 21:31 |
| holstein | change the settings | 21:31 |
| radjahzik | i try it | 21:31 |
| holstein | the frames/period | 21:31 |
| holstein | that you have set to 64 | 21:31 |
| holstein | that is really pretty extreme | 21:31 |
| radjahzik | ok | 21:32 |
| holstein | try 1024 like i suggested | 21:32 |
| radjahzik | it was realy cool | 21:32 |
| holstein | and also, 3 persiods/buffer | 21:32 |
| radjahzik | but no stable | 21:32 |
| radjahzik | ok | 21:32 |
| holstein | that should give you a lot of latency | 21:32 |
| holstein | 70ms or something like that | 21:32 |
| holstein | BUT, you will start it, and try what you were trying | 21:32 |
| radjahzik | i'm try | 21:33 |
| holstein | and if its stable, you'll know you are asking the hardware to do more than it can do | 21:33 |
| radjahzik | and i here the latence !! | 21:33 |
| holstein | IF, you want some realtime effects capable of lowerlatency that is lighter on the system | 21:33 |
| holstein | look at rakarrack | 21:33 |
| holstein | you'll have to decide what you want to do as far as a compromise | 21:33 |
| radjahzik | i'm direct in connect | 21:33 |
| holstein | radjahzik: ? | 21:34 |
| holstein | OH | 21:34 |
| holstein | that doesnt matter | 21:34 |
| holstein | the latency is what JACK is set to | 21:34 |
| holstein | radjahzik: if you want guitar effects | 21:34 |
| holstein | use rakarrack | 21:34 |
| radjahzik | just voice | 21:34 |
| holstein | and start lowering the frames/buffer settings | 21:35 |
| holstein | radjahzik: still, you can use rakarrack if you want | 21:35 |
| holstein | its just really light weight and stable* | 21:35 |
| holstein | OR, just accept the higher latency | 21:35 |
| radjahzik | which value can i modify to chose less than 1024 | 21:35 |
| holstein | OR, get a more capable sound card | 21:35 |
| radjahzik | i have 4 Go | 21:36 |
| holstein | radjahzik: the frames/buffer settings | 21:36 |
| holstein | frames/period* | 21:36 |
| holstein | and periods/buffer | 21:36 |
| holstein | those are the 2 you change | 21:36 |
| radjahzik | i try 512 /2 buffer | 21:36 |
| holstein | yup | 21:37 |
| holstein | 62 /2 is quite extreme | 21:37 |
| holstein | my firewire device can do that | 21:37 |
| holstein | but not on more than just a few channels stable | 21:37 |
| holstein | 128 /2 is about as hard as i push it | 21:37 |
| holstein | and thats just for live effects like what you are doing | 21:37 |
| holstein | i use 1024 /3 for mixing | 21:38 |
| radjahzik | thks | 21:38 |
| radjahzik | and on live you use 128 /2 ?? | 21:38 |
| holstein | sometimes | 21:39 |
| holstein | depends on what i need to do | 21:39 |
| holstein | if its just one line with one effect | 21:39 |
| holstein | i might try 64 /2 | 21:39 |
| radjahzik | just want to rec like live | 21:39 |
| holstein | radjahzik: then, you dont need low latency anyway | 21:39 |
| radjahzik | ^^ | 21:40 |
| holstein | just record, and dont use JACK to monitor | 21:40 |
| radjahzik | :) | 21:40 |
| holstein | and you wont hear the latency | 21:40 |
| holstein | and you can use your current hardware :) | 21:40 |
| radjahzik | yes on my Maudio micro | 21:41 |
| radjahzik | i have no choice | 21:41 |
| radjahzik | its usb micro in/out | 21:41 |
| radjahzik | and with linux its not config playback direct | 21:41 |
| holstein | radjahzik: uses the madfuload package? | 21:41 |
| radjahzik | i must use jack to connecty in /out | 21:42 |
| radjahzik | Madfuload? | 21:42 |
| radjahzik | what is that ? | 21:42 |
| holstein | nevermind | 21:42 |
| holstein | i think i have that device though | 21:42 |
| holstein | and an maudio transit too | 21:42 |
| holstein | the latency is pretty bad* | 21:42 |
| radjahzik | for the moment its good | 21:43 |
| holstein | hey, its what you got | 21:43 |
| holstein | but, the latency is not good :/ | 21:44 |
| radjahzik | :) | 21:44 |
| radjahzik | what do you use to rec after jackd | 21:45 |
| radjahzik | ? | 21:46 |
| radjahzik | jack rack its enormus | 21:46 |
| radjahzik | fun | 21:46 |
| radjahzik | thks | 21:46 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i use ardour mostly | 21:47 |
| radjahzik | its 128/3 | 21:48 |
| radjahzik | i test its cool | 21:48 |
| radjahzik | no bug | 21:48 |
| holstein | radjahzik: cool, that'll do | 21:48 |
| radjahzik | i dont arrived install protools | 21:49 |
| radjahzik | but with jack i can be have a great tools yet | 21:49 |
| holstein | i prefer ardour | 21:49 |
| radjahzik | me problem was the bug | 21:50 |
| holstein | JACK is not trivial | 21:50 |
| radjahzik | so linux fo life !!! | 21:50 |
| radjahzik | yes | 21:50 |
| holstein | radjahzik: however, thats not a bug | 21:50 |
| holstein | JACK doesnt care how hard you want to try and push it | 21:50 |
| radjahzik | however you have | 21:50 |
| holstein | you can just make your system lock up trying to use it | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | yes | 21:51 |
| holstein | i personally appreciate that | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | fun | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | yes me toot | 21:51 |
| holstein | letting me find my own hardware limitations | 21:51 |
| holstein | instead of settling on a pre-determined middle ground that everyone can use | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | no driver for my microphone | 21:51 |
| holstein | radjahzik: USB mic? | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | its simply to find | 21:51 |
| radjahzik | yes | 21:52 |
| radjahzik | i like it | 21:52 |
| holstein | what is it? | 21:52 |
| radjahzik | super sound | 21:52 |
| radjahzik | M audio Producer | 21:52 |
| holstein | eh, im not a fan of those USB mic's personally | 21:52 |
| holstein | but, im glad its working for you :) | 21:52 |
| radjahzik | there is a out fo head phone on it | 21:52 |
| radjahzik | yes i have find just jack is able to config the out in direct | 21:53 |
| radjahzik | the driver oss that maudio speak are not working | 21:53 |
| holstein | so, it does work? | 21:53 |
| holstein | hmm | 21:53 |
| radjahzik | just use jack | 21:53 |
| radjahzik | i have try it on much distrib | 21:54 |
| radjahzik | im on ubuntustudio 11 | 21:54 |
| radjahzik | i know with linuxmint 9 no problem to | 21:54 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i would plug in the USB mic | 21:55 |
| holstein | open a terminal, and see if you see it running the command | 21:55 |
| holstein | lsusb | 21:55 |
| holstein | and also with the commands | 21:56 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 21:56 |
| holstein | arecord -l | 21:56 |
| holstein | IF you see the USB mic in aplay and arecord, then JACK can talk to it | 21:56 |
| holstein | when you are looking at qjackctl, under the setup menu, where you are setting the frames/period settings | 21:57 |
| holstein | take a look at... | 21:57 |
| holstein | where it says 'interface' | 21:57 |
| holstein | there are actually 2 drop down menus | 21:57 |
| holstein | thats where the USB mic would show up* | 21:57 |
| radjahzik | when i stop jackd the sound continue ?? | 22:01 |
| holstein | what sound? | 22:01 |
| radjahzik | an there is a little rumble | 22:01 |
| radjahzik | of playback | 22:02 |
| holstein | what should happen is.. | 22:02 |
| holstein | you start JACK | 22:02 |
| holstein | then, you start whatever apps you want to use | 22:02 |
| holstein | then, when your done | 22:02 |
| holstein | you close the apps | 22:02 |
| holstein | and then stop JACK, then close it | 22:02 |
| holstein | i dont know what noises you have in your system | 22:02 |
| holstein | its quite normal to hear hard drives spinning, and elecrital interference | 22:03 |
| radjahzik | ah sorry 30 s after nomre sound | 22:03 |
| radjahzik | ok | 22:03 |
| radjahzik | i have must reboot when its crash ? | 22:05 |
| radjahzik | is there a command to kill and start jackd | 22:05 |
| holstein | killall jackd | 22:05 |
| radjahzik | and start | 22:06 |
| radjahzik | jackd | 22:06 |
| radjahzik | just jackd | 22:06 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i just use qjackctl | 22:06 |
| holstein | jack control* | 22:06 |
| holstein | in the menu | 22:07 |
| radjahzik | holstein : jackd and rec crash my system ?? | 22:31 |
| radjahzik | i m obliged to reboot | 22:31 |
| radjahzik | when i want resatart jackd , i have nomore view of interface | 22:32 |
| radjahzik | jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY | 22:34 |
| radjahzik | This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it | 22:34 |
| radjahzik | under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details | 22:34 |
| radjahzik | 23:34:07.669 JACK a été arrêté avec statut de sortie=255. | 22:34 |
| radjahzik | 23:34:14.638 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations. | 22:34 |
| radjahzik | JackSocketClientChannel read fail | 22:34 |
| holstein | radjahzik: try this as well | 22:35 |
| holstein | close and stop JACK | 22:35 |
| holstein | make sure you are in the audio group | 22:35 |
| holstein | sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME audio | 22:35 |
| holstein | radjahzik: and double check that the device you want is selected | 22:36 |
| radjahzik | L'utilisateur `radjahzik' appartient déjà au groupe `audio' | 22:37 |
| radjahzik | say that radjahzik its in already in the group | 22:37 |
| holstein | cool | 22:37 |
| holstein | you can try starting jack as root | 22:38 |
| holstein | you dont want to run JACK as root* | 22:38 |
| holstein | this would be to troubleshoot for permissions | 22:38 |
| holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 22:38 |
| radjahzik | so ? | 22:38 |
| holstein | again, use that temporarily* | 22:38 |
| radjahzik | erreur communication | 22:39 |
| radjahzik | i have to much modify the set | 22:39 |
| radjahzik | priority : ? | 22:40 |
| holstein | radjahzik: in qjackctl under 'setup' | 22:40 |
| holstein | priority is default | 22:40 |
| holstein | you shouldnt have messed with anything there anyways | 22:40 |
| holstein | other than frames/period and period/buffer | 22:41 |
| holstein | radjahzik: you can mess around with it though, but i dont think thats the issue | 22:41 |
| radjahzik | nb of port | 22:41 |
| holstein | nb? | 22:42 |
| radjahzik | number of mawimal port ? | 22:42 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yeah, dont mess with those | 22:42 |
| radjahzik | and ms | 22:42 |
| holstein | radjahzik: *dont* mess with those | 22:42 |
| holstein | unless you know what they are | 22:42 |
| holstein | frames/period and periods/buffer are the ones you tweak | 22:43 |
| holstein | the other stuff *should* be fine | 22:43 |
| holstein | radjahzik: double check under interface | 22:43 |
| holstein | radjahzik: also, you can look under driver, and select the 'dummy' driver | 22:43 |
| radjahzik | here no dummy | 22:44 |
| holstein | if it works with the dummy driver, then you know JACK is probably fine | 22:44 |
| holstein | radjahzik: where is says 'alsa' | 22:44 |
| holstein | thats where you select 'dummy' | 22:44 |
| holstein | unless its been taken out for some reason | 22:45 |
| radjahzik | there is no dummy in this list | 22:45 |
| holstein | radjahzik: OK, so its been taken out | 22:45 |
| holstein | dont worry about it then* | 22:46 |
| holstein | radjahzik: im not runnin 11.04 | 22:46 |
| radjahzik | what you have | 22:46 |
| holstein | im running 10.04, the LTS (long term support) | 22:46 |
| radjahzik | ohhhhh | 22:46 |
| radjahzik | ubuntustudio 10.04 ? | 22:46 |
| holstein | its all the same | 22:47 |
| holstein | ubuntu = ubuntustudio | 22:47 |
| holstein | i have one that i used the acutal ubuntustudio install discs for | 22:47 |
| radjahzik | can y downgrade to 10.04* | 22:47 |
| holstein | the rest, i just add what i want | 22:47 |
| holstein | radjahzik: nope | 22:47 |
| holstein | radjahzik: you dont need to though | 22:47 |
| holstein | thats not the issue | 22:47 |
| holstein | the issue is, you just started using JACK | 22:47 |
| radjahzik | humm | 22:47 |
| holstein | you'll figure it out ;) | 22:47 |
| radjahzik | yes the furtur | 22:48 |
| radjahzik | will 11.04 | 22:48 |
| radjahzik | so try | 22:48 |
| holstein | just keep trying | 22:48 |
| radjahzik | maybe a memory system | 22:48 |
| holstein | you've just changed a setting somewhere | 22:48 |
| holstein | radjahzik: nope | 22:48 |
| holstein | its a JACK setting | 22:48 |
| holstein | im %90 sure | 22:48 |
| radjahzik | no | 22:48 |
| holstein | radjahzik: those settings dont need to be done anymore | 22:49 |
| holstein | memlock and all that* | 22:49 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yeah, im pretty sure | 22:49 |
| radjahzik | memlock fix ?? | 22:49 |
| holstein | double check the 'interface' settings | 22:49 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yeah, thats *not* necessary any more | 22:49 |
| holstein | any of that* | 22:49 |
| holstein | no memlock | 22:49 |
| holstein | nothing like that | 22:50 |
| holstein | PLUS | 22:50 |
| radjahzik | can you screen print you setup | 22:50 |
| holstein | you had JACK working | 22:50 |
| holstein | sure | 22:50 |
| holstein | radjahzik: but, that wont help | 22:50 |
| holstein | this is an internal intel sound card | 22:50 |
| radjahzik | and send me like pasteit | 22:50 |
| holstein | on the machine im on | 22:50 |
| holstein | and the other is a firewire device | 22:50 |
| radjahzik | no problem | 22:50 |
| holstein | thats why this is so challenging | 22:50 |
| holstein | JACK | 22:50 |
| holstein | radjahzik: your config will be different from mine | 22:51 |
| radjahzik | probably | 22:51 |
| holstein | probably? | 22:51 |
| holstein | i'll personally guarantee it | 22:52 |
| radjahzik | ok i reboot | 22:52 |
| radjahzik | to see | 22:52 |
| holstein | http://imagebin.org/155812 | 22:52 |
| radjahzik | ok i have reboot and its work | 22:56 |
| radjahzik | with ardour | 22:56 |
| holstein | http://imagebin.org/155812 | 22:56 |
| radjahzik | in ardour i selact jack | 22:57 |
| holstein | radjahzik: right, you just need to spend some time with JACK | 22:57 |
| holstein | its not trivial | 22:57 |
| holstein | its not something you learn how to use in an afternoon* | 22:57 |
| radjahzik | when i add effec on jack | 22:58 |
| radjahzik | i connect the output effect on input ardour | 22:58 |
| holstein | sure | 22:58 |
| holstein | connect it however you want | 22:59 |
| holstein | thats what JACK is all about | 22:59 |
| radjahzik | so it will be good | 22:59 |
| holstein | you can track the wet and dry outs from a guitar | 22:59 |
| holstein | OR another piece of software | 22:59 |
| holstein | you can record those to tracks in ardour | 22:59 |
| radjahzik | usely the bug come at this instant | 22:59 |
| holstein | or use them to trigger MIDI | 22:59 |
| holstein | OR stream out live to the internet | 22:59 |
| holstein | *whatever you want to do | 22:59 |
| radjahzik | lets test | 22:59 |
| holstein | radjahzik: its not a bug* | 23:00 |
| radjahzik | :)) | 23:00 |
| holstein | if you push JACK to hard, it will fail/crash | 23:00 |
| holstein | you also could have something sharing an IRQ with your USB or audio device | 23:01 |
| holstein | check out in a terminal | 23:01 |
| holstein | cat /proc/interrupts | 23:01 |
| holstein | radjahzik: thats not a bug either* | 23:02 |
| radjahzik | lol | 23:02 |
| radjahzik | when i back in ardour its dont made a back | 23:02 |
| holstein | radjahzik: ? | 23:03 |
| holstein | no playback in ardour? | 23:03 |
| holstein | double check the routing in JACK* | 23:03 |
| radjahzik | no i have just rec but i dont rewind | 23:03 |
| holstein | radjahzik: under the 'connect' tab | 23:03 |
| holstein | radjahzik: hit rewind | 23:03 |
| holstein | ardour is also not trivial* | 23:03 |
| holstein | there are really good documents for ardour though | 23:04 |
| holstein | and the #ardour channel is very helpful | 23:04 |
| holstein | radjahzik: also, check out #opensourcemusicians | 23:04 |
| radjahzik | ok i have find roll on the travel | 23:05 |
| radjahzik | thks | 23:05 |
| holstein | radjahzik: sure, anytime :) | 23:05 |
| radjahzik | i must work | 23:05 |
| radjahzik | so at soon | 23:05 |
| radjahzik | and my first test work | 23:07 |
| radjahzik | cool | 23:07 |
| radjahzik | all is cool in 1024/3 | 23:08 |
| radjahzik | thanks | 23:08 |
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