[03:28] <virtu> http://www.4shared.com/audio/ig7u0ane/KORG_nanoKEY.html?
[06:20] <Red_> hi guys.... can someone tell me how to join multiple channels of a server on Xchat-gnome Irc client
[06:20] <Red_> ?
[18:21] <radjahzik> hi
[18:21] <radjahzik> i have ubuntustudio 11 and sometime its frizz
[18:22] <radjahzik> i can made anything i'm obliged to reboot
[18:22] <radjahzik> have you an idea
[18:24] <radjahzik> can i setup the memory or else ???
[18:40] <radjahzik__> how switch off a window frizzing
[18:41] <radjahzik__> is there a trick?
[18:41] <radjahzik__> like CTRL + ??
[19:16] <holstein> radjahzik: o/
[19:16] <holstein> what do you mean by 'frizzing' ?
[19:19] <holstein> radjahzik: i would look at http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[19:19] <holstein> UI issues are going to be generic to both ubuntu and ubuntustudio
[21:26] <radjahzik> please help me to config jackd
[21:26] <radjahzik> i install him no problem
[21:26] <radjahzik> i set a config  no problem
[21:26] <radjahzik> i add a effect  no problem
[21:26] <holstein> effect?
[21:27] <radjahzik> i start a rec application and the computer frizz "stop "
[21:27] <holstein> radjahzik: what are your JACK setting?
[21:27] <holstein> maybe just relax them a bit
[21:27] <radjahzik> Calg plugin
[21:27] <holstein> frames/period 1024
[21:28] <holstein> and periods/buffer 3
[21:29] <radjahzik> ok that done 64 ms latences !!
[21:30] <radjahzik> no 69.7
[21:30] <radjahzik> buffer was  2
[21:30] <radjahzik> not 1024 but 64
[21:30] <radjahzik> priorité 60
[21:31] <radjahzik> so priority ??
[21:31] <holstein> radjahzik: nope
[21:31] <holstein> change the settings
[21:31] <radjahzik> i try it
[21:31] <holstein> the frames/period
[21:31] <holstein> that you have set to 64
[21:31] <holstein> that is really pretty extreme
[21:32] <radjahzik> ok
[21:32] <holstein> try 1024 like i suggested
[21:32] <radjahzik> it was realy cool
[21:32] <holstein> and also, 3 persiods/buffer
[21:32] <radjahzik> but no stable
[21:32] <radjahzik>  ok
[21:32] <holstein> that should give you a lot of latency
[21:32] <holstein> 70ms or something like that
[21:32] <holstein> BUT, you will start it, and try what you were trying
[21:33] <radjahzik> i'm try
[21:33] <holstein> and if its stable, you'll know you are asking the hardware to do more than it can do
[21:33] <radjahzik> and i here the latence !!
[21:33] <holstein> IF, you want some realtime effects capable of lowerlatency that is lighter on the system
[21:33] <holstein> look at rakarrack
[21:33] <holstein> you'll have to decide what you want to do as far as a compromise
[21:33] <radjahzik> i'm direct in connect
[21:34] <holstein> radjahzik: ?
[21:34] <holstein> OH
[21:34] <holstein> that doesnt matter
[21:34] <holstein> the latency is what JACK is set to
[21:34] <holstein> radjahzik: if you want guitar effects
[21:34] <holstein> use rakarrack
[21:34] <radjahzik> just voice
[21:35] <holstein> and start lowering the frames/buffer settings
[21:35] <holstein> radjahzik: still, you can use rakarrack if you want
[21:35] <holstein> its just really light weight and stable*
[21:35] <holstein> OR, just accept the higher latency
[21:35] <radjahzik> which value can i modify to chose less than 1024
[21:35] <holstein> OR, get a more capable sound card
[21:36] <radjahzik> i have 4 Go
[21:36] <holstein> radjahzik: the frames/buffer settings
[21:36] <holstein> frames/period*
[21:36] <holstein> and periods/buffer
[21:36] <holstein> those are the 2 you change
[21:36] <radjahzik> i try 512 /2 buffer
[21:37] <holstein> yup
[21:37] <holstein> 62 /2 is quite extreme
[21:37] <holstein> my firewire device can do that
[21:37] <holstein> but not on more than just a few channels stable
[21:37] <holstein> 128 /2 is about as hard as i push it
[21:37] <holstein> and thats just for live effects like what you are doing
[21:38] <holstein> i use 1024 /3 for mixing
[21:38] <radjahzik> thks
[21:38] <radjahzik> and on live you use 128 /2 ??
[21:39] <holstein> sometimes
[21:39] <holstein> depends on what i need to do
[21:39] <holstein> if its just one line with one effect
[21:39] <holstein> i might try 64 /2
[21:39] <radjahzik> just want to rec like live
[21:39] <holstein> radjahzik: then, you dont need low latency anyway
[21:40] <radjahzik> ^^
[21:40] <holstein> just record, and dont use JACK to monitor
[21:40] <radjahzik> :)
[21:40] <holstein> and you wont hear the latency
[21:40] <holstein> and you can use your current hardware :)
[21:41] <radjahzik> yes on my Maudio micro
[21:41] <radjahzik> i have no choice
[21:41] <radjahzik> its usb micro in/out
[21:41] <radjahzik> and with linux its not config playback direct
[21:41] <holstein> radjahzik: uses the madfuload package?
[21:42] <radjahzik> i must use jack to connecty in /out
[21:42] <radjahzik> Madfuload?
[21:42] <radjahzik> what is that ?
[21:42] <holstein> nevermind
[21:42] <holstein> i think i have that device though
[21:42] <holstein> and an maudio transit too
[21:42] <holstein> the latency is pretty bad*
[21:43] <radjahzik> for the moment its good
[21:43] <holstein> hey, its what you got
[21:44] <holstein> but, the latency is not good :/
[21:44] <radjahzik> :)
[21:45] <radjahzik> what do you use to rec after jackd
[21:46] <radjahzik> ?
[21:46] <radjahzik> jack rack its enormus
[21:46] <radjahzik> fun
[21:46] <radjahzik> thks
[21:47] <holstein> radjahzik: i use ardour mostly
[21:48] <radjahzik> its 128/3
[21:48] <radjahzik> i test its cool
[21:48] <radjahzik> no bug
[21:48] <holstein> radjahzik: cool, that'll do
[21:49] <radjahzik> i dont arrived install protools
[21:49] <radjahzik> but with jack i can be have a great tools yet
[21:49] <holstein> i prefer ardour
[21:50] <radjahzik> me problem was the bug
[21:50] <holstein> JACK is not trivial
[21:50] <radjahzik> so linux fo life !!!
[21:50] <radjahzik> yes
[21:50] <holstein> radjahzik: however, thats not a bug
[21:50] <holstein> JACK doesnt care how hard you want to try and push it
[21:50] <radjahzik> however you have
[21:51] <holstein> you can just make your system lock up trying to use it
[21:51] <radjahzik> yes
[21:51] <holstein> i personally appreciate that
[21:51] <radjahzik> fun
[21:51] <radjahzik> yes me toot
[21:51] <holstein> letting me find my own hardware limitations
[21:51] <holstein> instead of settling on a pre-determined middle ground that everyone can use
[21:51] <radjahzik> no driver for my microphone
[21:51] <holstein> radjahzik: USB mic?
[21:51] <radjahzik> its simply to find
[21:52] <radjahzik> yes
[21:52] <radjahzik> i like it
[21:52] <holstein> what is it?
[21:52] <radjahzik> super sound
[21:52] <radjahzik> M audio Producer
[21:52] <holstein> eh, im not a fan of those USB mic's personally
[21:52] <holstein> but, im glad its working for you :)
[21:52] <radjahzik> there is a out fo head phone on it
[21:53] <radjahzik> yes i have find just jack is able to config the out in direct
[21:53] <radjahzik> the driver oss that maudio speak are not working
[21:53] <holstein> so, it does work?
[21:53] <holstein> hmm
[21:53] <radjahzik> just use jack
[21:54] <radjahzik> i have try it on much distrib
[21:54] <radjahzik> im on ubuntustudio 11
[21:54] <radjahzik> i know with linuxmint 9 no problem to
[21:55] <holstein> radjahzik: i would plug in the USB mic
[21:55] <holstein> open a terminal, and see if you see it running the command
[21:55] <holstein> lsusb
[21:56] <holstein> and also with the commands
[21:56] <holstein> aplay -l
[21:56] <holstein> arecord -l
[21:56] <holstein> IF you see the USB mic in aplay and arecord, then JACK can talk to it
[21:57] <holstein> when you are looking at qjackctl, under the setup menu, where you are setting the frames/period settings
[21:57] <holstein> take a look at...
[21:57] <holstein> where it says 'interface'
[21:57] <holstein> there are actually 2 drop down menus
[21:57] <holstein> thats where the USB mic would show up*
[22:01] <radjahzik> when i stop jackd the sound continue ??
[22:01] <holstein> what sound?
[22:01] <radjahzik> an there is a little rumble
[22:02] <radjahzik> of playback
[22:02] <holstein> what should happen is..
[22:02] <holstein> you start JACK
[22:02] <holstein> then, you start whatever apps you want to use
[22:02] <holstein> then, when your done
[22:02] <holstein> you close the apps
[22:02] <holstein> and then stop JACK, then close it
[22:02] <holstein> i dont know what noises you have in your system
[22:03] <holstein> its quite normal to hear hard drives spinning, and elecrital interference
[22:03] <radjahzik> ah sorry  30 s  after nomre sound
[22:03] <radjahzik> ok
[22:05] <radjahzik> i have must reboot when its crash ?
[22:05] <radjahzik> is there a command to kill and start jackd
[22:05] <holstein> killall jackd
[22:06] <radjahzik> and start
[22:06] <radjahzik> jackd
[22:06] <radjahzik> just jackd
[22:06] <holstein> radjahzik: i just use qjackctl
[22:06] <holstein> jack control*
[22:07] <holstein> in the menu
[22:31] <radjahzik> holstein :  jackd and rec crash my system ??
[22:31] <radjahzik> i m obliged to reboot
[22:32] <radjahzik> when i want resatart jackd , i have nomore view of interface
[22:34] <radjahzik> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
[22:34] <radjahzik> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
[22:34] <radjahzik> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
[22:34] <radjahzik> 23:34:07.669 JACK a été arrêté avec statut de sortie=255.
[22:34] <radjahzik> 23:34:14.638 Impossible de connecter le serveur JACK comme client. - L'opération a échoué. - Erreur de communication serveur. Veuillez consulter la fenêtre des messages pour plus d'informations.
[22:34] <radjahzik> JackSocketClientChannel read fail
[22:35] <holstein> radjahzik: try this as well
[22:35] <holstein> close and stop JACK
[22:35] <holstein> make sure you are in the audio group
[22:35] <holstein> sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME audio
[22:36] <holstein> radjahzik: and double check that the device you want is selected
[22:37] <radjahzik> L'utilisateur `radjahzik' appartient déjà au groupe `audio'
[22:37] <radjahzik> say that radjahzik its in already in the group
[22:37] <holstein> cool
[22:38] <holstein> you can try starting jack as root
[22:38] <holstein> you dont want to run JACK as root*
[22:38] <holstein> this would be to troubleshoot for permissions
[22:38] <holstein> gksudo qjackctl
[22:38] <radjahzik> so ?
[22:38] <holstein> again, use that temporarily*
[22:39] <radjahzik> erreur communication
[22:39] <radjahzik> i have to much modify the set
[22:40] <radjahzik> priority : ?
[22:40] <holstein> radjahzik: in qjackctl under 'setup'
[22:40] <holstein> priority is default
[22:40] <holstein> you shouldnt have messed with anything there anyways
[22:41] <holstein> other than frames/period and period/buffer
[22:41] <holstein> radjahzik: you can mess around with it though, but i dont think thats the issue
[22:41] <radjahzik> nb of port
[22:42] <holstein> nb?
[22:42] <radjahzik> number of mawimal port ?
[22:42] <holstein> radjahzik: yeah, dont mess with those
[22:42] <radjahzik> and ms
[22:42] <holstein> radjahzik: *dont* mess with those
[22:42] <holstein> unless you know what they are
[22:43] <holstein> frames/period and periods/buffer are the ones you tweak
[22:43] <holstein> the other stuff *should* be fine
[22:43] <holstein> radjahzik: double check under interface
[22:43] <holstein> radjahzik: also, you can look under driver, and select the 'dummy' driver
[22:44] <radjahzik> here no dummy
[22:44] <holstein> if it works with the dummy driver, then you know JACK is probably fine
[22:44] <holstein> radjahzik: where is says 'alsa'
[22:44] <holstein> thats where you select 'dummy'
[22:45] <holstein> unless its been taken out for some reason
[22:45] <radjahzik> there is no dummy in this list
[22:45] <holstein> radjahzik: OK, so its been taken out
[22:46] <holstein> dont worry about it then*
[22:46] <holstein> radjahzik: im not runnin 11.04
[22:46] <radjahzik> what you have
[22:46] <holstein> im running 10.04, the LTS (long term support)
[22:46] <radjahzik> ohhhhh
[22:46] <radjahzik> ubuntustudio 10.04 ?
[22:47] <holstein> its all the same
[22:47] <holstein> ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[22:47] <holstein> i have one that i used the acutal ubuntustudio install discs for
[22:47] <radjahzik> can y downgrade to 10.04*
[22:47] <holstein> the rest, i just add what i want
[22:47] <holstein> radjahzik: nope
[22:47] <holstein> radjahzik: you dont need to though
[22:47] <holstein> thats not the issue
[22:47] <holstein> the issue is, you just started using JACK
[22:47] <radjahzik> humm
[22:47] <holstein> you'll figure it out ;)
[22:48] <radjahzik> yes the furtur
[22:48] <radjahzik> will 11.04
[22:48] <radjahzik> so try
[22:48] <holstein> just keep trying
[22:48] <radjahzik> maybe a memory system
[22:48] <holstein> you've just changed a setting somewhere
[22:48] <holstein> radjahzik: nope
[22:48] <holstein> its a JACK setting
[22:48] <holstein> im %90 sure
[22:48] <radjahzik> no
[22:49] <holstein> radjahzik: those settings dont need to be done anymore
[22:49] <holstein> memlock and all that*
[22:49] <holstein> radjahzik: yeah, im pretty sure
[22:49] <radjahzik> memlock fix ??
[22:49] <holstein> double check the 'interface' settings
[22:49] <holstein> radjahzik: yeah, thats *not* necessary any more
[22:49] <holstein> any of that*
[22:49] <holstein> no memlock
[22:50] <holstein> nothing like that
[22:50] <holstein> PLUS
[22:50] <radjahzik> can you screen print you setup
[22:50] <holstein> you had JACK working
[22:50] <holstein> sure
[22:50] <holstein> radjahzik: but, that wont help
[22:50] <holstein> this is an internal intel sound card
[22:50] <radjahzik> and send me like pasteit
[22:50] <holstein> on the machine im on
[22:50] <holstein> and the other is a firewire device
[22:50] <radjahzik> no problem
[22:50] <holstein> thats why this is so challenging
[22:50] <holstein> JACK
[22:51] <holstein> radjahzik: your config will be different from mine
[22:51] <radjahzik> probably
[22:51] <holstein> probably?
[22:52] <holstein> i'll personally guarantee it
[22:52] <radjahzik> ok i reboot
[22:52] <radjahzik> to see
[22:52] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/155812
[22:56] <radjahzik> ok i have reboot and its work
[22:56] <radjahzik> with ardour
[22:56] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/155812
[22:57] <radjahzik> in ardour i selact jack
[22:57] <holstein> radjahzik: right, you just need to spend some time with JACK
[22:57] <holstein> its not trivial
[22:57] <holstein> its not something you learn how to use in an afternoon*
[22:58] <radjahzik> when i add effec on jack
[22:58] <radjahzik> i connect the output effect on input ardour
[22:58] <holstein> sure
[22:59] <holstein> connect it however you want
[22:59] <holstein> thats what JACK is all about
[22:59] <radjahzik> so it will be good
[22:59] <holstein> you can track the wet and dry outs from a guitar
[22:59] <holstein> OR another piece of software
[22:59] <holstein> you can record those to tracks in ardour
[22:59] <radjahzik> usely the bug come at this instant
[22:59] <holstein> or use them to trigger MIDI
[22:59] <holstein> OR stream out live to the internet
[22:59] <holstein> *whatever you want to do
[22:59] <radjahzik> lets test
[23:00] <holstein> radjahzik: its not a bug*
[23:00] <radjahzik> :))
[23:00] <holstein> if you push JACK to hard, it will fail/crash
[23:01] <holstein> you also could have something sharing an IRQ with your USB or audio device
[23:01] <holstein> check out in a terminal
[23:01] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[23:02] <holstein> radjahzik: thats not a bug either*
[23:02] <radjahzik> lol
[23:02] <radjahzik> when i back in ardour its dont made a back
[23:03] <holstein> radjahzik: ?
[23:03] <holstein> no playback in ardour?
[23:03] <holstein> double check the routing in JACK*
[23:03] <radjahzik> no i have just rec but i dont rewind
[23:03] <holstein> radjahzik: under the 'connect' tab
[23:03] <holstein> radjahzik: hit rewind
[23:03] <holstein> ardour is also not trivial*
[23:04] <holstein> there are really good documents for ardour though
[23:04] <holstein> and the #ardour channel is very helpful
[23:04] <holstein> radjahzik: also, check out #opensourcemusicians
[23:05] <radjahzik> ok i have find roll on the travel
[23:05] <radjahzik> thks
[23:05] <holstein> radjahzik: sure, anytime :)
[23:05] <radjahzik> i must work
[23:05] <radjahzik> so at soon
[23:07] <radjahzik> and my first test work
[23:07] <radjahzik> cool
[23:08] <radjahzik> all is cool in 1024/3
[23:08] <radjahzik> thanks