[00:16] <EpicCyndaquil> what's the command to lock the display in xubuntu?
[00:20] <xrdodrx> EpicCyndaquil, xflock4
[00:43] <jimrew> thank you for helping me with compiz :)
[04:06] <Alexandre_> hello
[04:07] <Alexandre_> i installed xubuntu on my notebook hp pavilion 2080
[04:07] <Alexandre_> but
[04:07] <Alexandre_> when a rebooted my pc
[04:07] <Alexandre_> it freezes on a black screen
[04:07] <Alexandre_> someone can help me?
[04:11] <Soupermanito> freezes?
[04:12] <Soupermanito> when?
[04:12] <Soupermanito> after loging in?
[04:58] <Grumpywolfe> Hi all does anybody here use gmail chat
[04:59] <xrdodrx> Grumpywolfe, occasionally
[05:00] <Grumpywolfe> well I can connect but the mic does not work in the firefox with gmail chat or pidgin
[05:00] <Grumpywolfe> but can recorde my voice
[05:00] <xrdodrx> Make sure Flash is configured properly.
[05:01] <Grumpywolfe> I did not have flash in at first will try agin
[05:03] <Grumpywolfe> have flash plugin for browser do I need a differnt one
[05:03] <xrdodrx> I don't know really, I'm sorry :/
[05:04] <xrdodrx> I only use the text chat usually lol
[05:04] <Grumpywolfe> I just tried again and no good just can hear my wife but she can not hear me
[05:06] <Grumpywolfe> no problem it was an idle
[05:06] <Grumpywolfe> I even fired up firefox in a term to see if there was any error messages but none
[05:09] <Grumpywolfe> done installing so have to reboot see ya all
[05:46] <Deathspawn> anyone know how to configure dual monitors so that it isn't the same image on both of them?
[08:04] <Sysi> Deathspawn: nvidia/ati tool or arandr
[08:46] <xeranas> morning, I need help.. i need know more about xubuntu sessions logic, can someone paste some link to explanation how it works why it so different from gnome2 ?
[08:47] <Sysi> because it's not gnome2 or ment to be it
[08:47] <Sysi> what are you having problems with?
[08:48] <xeranas> yes ie after restart 3 instance of pidgin runing
[08:49] <xeranas> not sure why, do on start it counts from autostart too (runing pidgin was saved on last seesion) so I try figure out why some programs runs muliptle instances after restart :/
[08:52] <xeranas> trying search on internet explanation about xubuntu sessions,  but no luck :/
[08:52] <Sysi> some problem with session saving, you could try rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions/ and then save session on logout
[08:52] <Sysi> if you want to save session
[08:53] <xeranas> ok I will try
[09:05] <xeranas> thx <Sysi> looks issue with pidgin fixed
[09:06] <Sysi> np
[09:14] <xeranas> now only one issue left - how to save 'Change layout option' for Keyboard Layouts.. it reset to blank after restart
[14:14] <grumpywolfe> Hi all I had some time wanted to ask if any body can help me get the mic to work in google talk
[14:28] <lostson> grumpywolfe: have you checked to see if the mic is muted ?
[14:34] <grumpywolfe> yes I have I can use sound recourder and recourd a sound but not use google talk
[14:34] <lostson> are you using pidgin or empathy ?
[14:34] <grumpywolfe> and I have tried pidgin same thing not going out
[14:35] <grumpywolfe> get a lot of feed back
[14:35] <lostson> in the plugins section for pidgin do you have voice and video settings checked and configured
[14:36] <grumpywolfe> let me check again
[14:39] <grumpywolfe> I think I do now but cant test at the moment will have to test later thanks for the info but what about firefox and google talk
[14:39] <grumpywolfe> I use it a lot to call my kids and need it
[14:40] <lostson> i have never tried it firefox
[14:41] <lostson> i use the chromium daily builds personally
[14:42] <grumpywolfe> in the sound setup i see this one is hda intel alsa mixer the other is pulse audio mixer so I need to set one for the mic
[14:45] <grumpywolfe> have to go to work see ya later thanks for your help
[14:46] <lostson> have a good day at work and your welcome
[15:33] <jm__> hello how can i change the name of a file ?
[15:38] <Sysi> right click -> rename
[15:39] <jm__> thanxx Sysi
[15:41] <jm__> but how i could rename a pendrive for example'
[15:45] <Sysi> with gparted
[15:46] <jm__> oh ok
[15:47] <jm__> thanxx
[16:26] <Sysi> what would be best FS for linux/mac-driven external hdd, hfs+ without journaling?
[16:27] <Sysi> then it would be read-only with windows.. i almost count that as plus
[16:28] <Sysi> ntfs-3g failed on mac, i don't feel like buying driver for windows filesystem to be used with mac/linux
[18:02] <Amacidia||> hows everyone doing today?
[18:03] <Amacidia||> XFCE is pretty nice.
[18:03] <Soupermanito> :D
[18:07] <PhorceP> is there an xubuntu-specific version of this? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[18:07] <Soupermanito> mmm
[18:07] <Soupermanito> dont know
[18:11] <Soupermanito> wait thats the one you can use to choose pakages while installing?
[18:11] <Soupermanito> then you should be able too chose xubuntu-desktop instead of ubuntu-desktop
[18:13] <PhorceP> hmm, I can give it a shot...
[18:38] <Kurdistan> hey guys/girls.
[18:38] <Kurdistan> how is xubuntu 11.04 progressing?
[18:38] <Kurdistan> most bugs fixed?
[18:39] <xrdodrx> Kurdistan, xubuntu 11.04 has been released for about a month now :)
[18:39] <Kurdistan> xrdodrx, yes I know. Natty (Ubuntu) have been problematic.
[18:40] <xrdodrx> That all depends on your perception, I guess.
[18:40] <xrdodrx> What specific problems did you have?
[18:40] <Kurdistan> xrdodrx, I have read reviews of xubuntu natty, seems to be hit.
[18:40] <Kurdistan> maybe the best xubuntu ever?
[18:40] <xrdodrx> ?
[18:40] <xrdodrx> Kurdistan, I can't really say :)
[18:41] <xrdodrx> This is actually my first release of Xubuntu, having used Ubuntu since 6.06/dapper
[18:41] <Kurdistan> I am confused what to choose in the world of buntus
[18:41] <xrdodrx> but it works quite well with minor bugs
[18:42] <Kurdistan> xrdodrx, I use now, Ubuntu 10.10 (perfect 10 :=) ).
[18:43] <xrdodrx> well remember it's up to you if you want to upgrade
[18:43] <xrdodrx> maverick is supported for another year on the desktop
[18:43] <Kurdistan> :)  thats true
[18:44] <xrdodrx> but yeah, I'd definitely recommend xubuntu 11.04 to anyone :D
[18:44] <Kurdistan> I think I will wait to the battery-time bug will be fixed
[18:44] <Kurdistan> if it will be fixed during natty
[18:44] <xrdodrx> Kurdistan, I have that problem too :x
[18:45] <Kurdistan> xrdodrx, it is the reason why I dont make upgrade (new installation) becuase it feels to risky.
[18:45] <Kurdistan> why break something that works?
[18:45] <Kurdistan> ubuntu maverick have been fantastic so far
[18:47] <Soupermanito> :)
[18:47] <Soupermanito> if it aint broken don't fix it
[18:48] <drc> If you can't fix it, don't break it :)
[18:49] <Soupermanito> weeeell
[18:49] <Soupermanito> thats more difficult
[19:44] <jozefk> \o
[19:45] <jozefk> why can't we change the icon of a  dir in thunar? to use different icon then the default one
[19:46] <Sysi> unnecessary feature :P
[19:47] <jozefk> but I like to do it
[19:47] <jozefk> XFCE is also unnecessary
[19:47] <jozefk> we should all be happy with CLI only that's it
[19:49] <jozefk> it's not about unnecessary or not. it is not more necessary in Nautilus then in Thunar but in Nautilus it is possible to do it. no matter if it is necessary or not
[19:49] <Sysi> that's why smiley
[19:50] <Sysi> light-intended stuff usually lacks something, that's why it's light
[19:50] <jozefk> ah I see
[19:50] <jozefk> I don't think it would be to bigger with that option really
[19:51] <jozefk> no tabs no panes no nothing in Thunar :)
[19:52] <jozefk> that's already enough to make it light. I think.
[19:52] <jozefk> but this is nothing special I believe so
[19:53] <jozefk> or at least if all dirs would have the same icons. that would be better for me
[19:53] <jozefk> now I have some default dirs with default icons and if I create my own dirs I can't change their icons
[19:53] <jozefk> that sucks :)
[19:54] <Sysi> there's a file under ~/.config/ where those default folders are set, you can propably edit it
[19:54] <Sysi> dunno if it somehow could work for other directories too
[19:56] <jozefk> I found some instructions but things were missing in this version of xubuntu. don't know about previous version. I didn't use xubuntu before. even xfce almost not at all
[19:57] <Sysi> i started with xfce because i had little ram, i got more and tried gnome, it felt lacky
[19:57] <jozefk> i liked gnome2 and never had any complain about it. but I use xfce now coz I don't like gnome3 and unity
[19:58] <jozefk> and kubuntu was a little bit ugly for me
[19:58] <jozefk> other kde distros didn't worked good enough for my taste :)
[19:58] <Sysi> gnome3 isn't bad, alttab just is weird and it isn't quite made for dualscreen
[19:59] <Sysi> i have fedora kde, thinking of going back to xfce
[19:59] <Sysi> (too) familiar with it
[19:59] <jozefk> I don't like it. I tried fedora 15 live and didn't like it. gnome3 version
[20:00] <jozefk> fedora kde would be good I think but I don't know. I like xfce also
[20:00] <Sysi> nautilus is bad to, but the basic idea is great
[20:00] <Sysi> *too
[20:00] <Sysi> even if workspace setup isn't as good as with xfce
[20:00] <jozefk> dolphin is crashing too often for me. nautius is not perfect. but it works better than dolphin
[20:01] <jozefk> Thunar works the best
[20:01] <Soupermanito> i don't know
[20:01] <Sysi> dolphin has never crashed for me
[20:01] <jozefk> yes missing tabs and panes but that's not that important for me :)
[20:01] <Soupermanito> for me the last thunar has been... weird
[20:01] <Sysi> plasma/kwin has, twice
[20:01] <jozefk> dolphin is crashing for me from time to time
[20:01] <Sysi> thunar 1.2 is laggy, otherly good
[20:02] <Soupermanito> :P tabs on windows are not that useful
[20:02] <Soupermanito> or folders i mean
[20:02] <Sysi> i like my filemanager simple
[20:02] <jozefk> kde is not that stable I think. they do too much experimenting with nepomuk and other things like that
[20:02] <Soupermanito> i like my filemanagers to be two panels sides
[20:02] <Sysi> they're releasing stuff too often
[20:03] <Sysi> IMHO being able to drag multiple files is only reason to use GUI for data managment
[20:03] <jozefk> most probably. I would like kde without nepomuk. I don't even know what is that nepomuk for :D
[20:03] <Sysi> you can disable it
[20:04] <jozefk> you can but then, most probably, half of KDE will start crashing
[20:05] <Sysi> didn't do that for me..
[20:05] <Sysi> entire kde just got stuck when i had problems with memstick
[20:05] <jozefk> but I like how KDE looks like. except it was not that nice in kubuntu. xfce looks beautiful anyway :)
[20:07] <jozefk> today I format one usb flash drive with gparted to fat16 and copied two files on it. opened in win7 and it worked fine. I went to printing store to print out those files and they could not open the usb flash at all in win xp
[20:07] <Sysi> weird
[20:07] <jozefk> it was weird. I came back home and tried the flash again and it is still working fine
[20:07] <jozefk> on win and lin :)
[20:08] <Sysi> winxp..
[20:08] <jozefk> have no idea what kind of computers they are using or what they are doing
[20:08] <jozefk> yeah xp
[20:08] <Sysi> reason why i started with xubuntu, i was so full of windows xp
[20:09] <Soupermanito> fat16? why not fat32?
[20:09] <jozefk> she tried to use the flash on 3 different PCs in the store. same result
[20:09] <jozefk> I don't know why :) I just went for fat16 this time. haven't use it for long time that's why
[20:09] <jozefk> why not actually?
[20:10] <jozefk> i didn't use XP for years already
[20:10] <Soupermanito> just fat16 is old
[20:10] <Sysi> fat16 should work everywhere
[20:10] <Sysi> i had to format my stick as fat16 when i updated my bios
[20:10] <jozefk> xp fresh install + fixing the drivers + installing all apps = PITA
[20:11] <Sysi> just using xp sucks
[20:11] <Soupermanito> indeed
[20:13] <jozefk> oh yeah. I think I already mentioned here once before: when you setup your linux - it works, when you setup your windows - it start dying :)
[20:14] <Sysi> i could be really amazed with this mac, but i've seen so much obscure linux stuff this feels somewhat lame
[20:15] <Sysi> better than windows, more stable than linux..
[20:15] <Sysi> i maybe will try linux on this when they get broadcom drivers donw
[20:27] <jozefk> ibook?
[20:27] <jozefk> I used debian on ibook g4
[20:27] <jozefk> and ubuntu worked too
[20:27] <jozefk> fedora stopped supporting PPC processors
[20:28] <jozefk> i got wifi working with debian. I think with ubuntu as well
[20:28] <jozefk> mac os x is the best OS I think :)
[20:29] <Soupermanito> havent tried
[20:29] <Soupermanito> i dont like the metalic look
[20:29] <Soupermanito> also never had anything mac
[20:30] <jozefk> I used g5 ppc desktop in the office 2 years. it's great machine!
[20:31] <Sysi> i don't like look of osx very much, but can't say this would be ugly
[20:31] <jozefk> and that ibook g4 was not mine. my friend gave it to me to see if I can rescue his files from HDD. coz HDD died. os x coudn't do anything. but I got the filex back with finnix linux
[20:31] <Sysi> newest MBP 13"
[20:31] <jozefk> that's intel
[20:31] <Sysi> yup
[20:31] <Sysi> sandy bridge
[20:31] <jozefk> it should be much easier to have linux working fine on it
[20:32] <Sysi> new, closed hardware isn't easy
[20:32] <jozefk> closed hardware? they did something about hardware?\
[20:33] <Sysi> afaik they don't give too much specs, but bot sure
[20:33] <Sysi> at least broadcom is closed, no drivers at all
[20:34] <Sysi> windows drivers could work trough ndiswrapper
[20:34] <jozefk> why people use that broadcom so much?
[20:34] <jozefk> my wifi on this dell is also broadcom
[20:34] <Sysi> why not, works on propietary Oses
[20:34] <jozefk> broadcom is everywhere today
[20:35] <Sysi> i'm happy with osx and there's no possibility linux worked as well on this
[20:35] <jozefk> that's why. we are open source users. that's why
[20:35] <jozefk> ubuntu? not working?
[20:36] <Sysi> battery life will be shorter, wifi propably works worse, all little stuff
[20:38] <jozefk> I don't care about battery life. if wifi works good enough then it's ok
[20:42] <Sysi> if i didn't care i've got a pc or MBA
[22:05] <covidiu> Hi. How do I edit the menu in Xubuntu? I want to remove some of the items.
[22:09] <drc> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[22:10] <covidiu> Thanks.
[22:35] <Guest1283> hello, guys, looks like i've encountered a serious bug. i made a screenshot. http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05302011-013135am.php
[22:36] <Guest1283> that happened after i switched off wireless during apt-get update
[22:36] <Guest1283> when i tried apt-get update again, that thing appeared
[22:39] <Guest1283> anybody?
[23:28] <Kurdistan> hey guys do somebody have bug-rapport only for xubuntu?
[23:29] <Kurdistan> which bugs are fixed and stil needs to take care
[23:31] <grumpywolfe> Hi all need some help trying to get what I call the gphone the google gmail phone to work I do like xubutu but need to be able to call my kids
[23:34] <Kurdistan> grumpywolfe, you can use skype
[23:34] <Kurdistan> ekiga etc
[23:34] <grumpywolfe> never tried it so not sure
[23:35] <grumpywolfe> what does it cost to call a cell phone with skype
[23:36] <Kurdistan> grumpywolfe, no idea, :) don´t use it.
[23:36] <Kurdistan> only have it installed
[23:36] <Kurdistan> are you going to call phones?
[23:36] <grumpywolfe> it connects but I can hear my wife she just cant hear me
[23:36] <Kurdistan> selfphones I mean
[23:36] <grumpywolfe> yes that is why I use gphone it is =free
[23:38] <Kurdistan> grumpywolfe, I am not familiar with does things.
[23:38] <Kurdistan> maybe it´s better you ask your question in the ubuntuforums.org?
[23:38] <grumpywolfe> it worked just fine when I had puppylinux but now I want to use xubuntu
[23:38] <Kurdistan> the official forum
[23:38] <grumpywolfe> ok will thanks
[23:39] <Kurdistan> grumpywolfe, I dont think people are awake and I am not using xubuntu 11.04 yet. :)
[23:40] <grumpywolfe> hey me I am trying to quit building my own and just have one that works and can just set and watch a few movies and read a ittle
[23:40] <Kurdistan> grumpywolfe,  for sound and mic device it is good to take a look pulseaudio
[23:42] <grumpywolfe> well when I installed sound record it changes my sound control panel so not able to get to the differnt sound options that I did have