=== mortenkd is now known as Antique [00:00] Linux uberdub-HP-Mini-311-1000 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [00:00] k [00:01] we ruled out that one [00:01] im looking at the known bugs [00:01] see if anything matches [00:02] uberdub, from reading recent forums i see people still using distro releases from four years agoors [00:04] yeah [00:04] everything pertaining to my card is pretty old in the forums, hence why Im here [00:05] none of them are specific to my errors either [00:05] linux doesnt even know what my card is lol [00:05] what does lspci say? [00:06] lshw says its one thing ORRR another lol [00:06] have you looked at lspci? [00:06] should say whats connected [00:06] says the same thing [00:06] nope [00:06] says what? [00:06] its not connected [00:07] doesnt see it at all? [00:07] it does but it doesnt know what it is [00:07] and dell doesnt have what card it is on the specs pade [00:07] page* [00:08] hmm [00:08] yeah you need to know that in order to use it [00:08] i know [00:08] man, Im about to just put winblows on my laptop [00:08] im going to but a 12 dollars linksys card probably [00:09] i always had real good luck with linksys [00:09] linksys is just a brand though [00:09] they dont make chips afaik [00:10] all what i know when it says linksys it works lol [00:10] I guess asking for a linux OS that just works is asking too much [00:10] Im tired of my hardware being limited [00:10] you can always use windows lol [00:10] due to crap drivers, or the nonexistence of drivers [00:11] I hate windows [00:11] but I might [00:11] lol [00:11] good luck [00:12] every computer i had windows on always got some type of virus on it [00:12] never with linux [00:12] I dont have issues with viruses [00:12] well malware etc [00:13] it can be high maintenance in that regard, but at least things actually work [00:13] you wont get malware, and viruses with proper administration [00:14] im pretty sure thast incorrect [00:14] thats* [00:14] its a lot easier to scan, and delete those things than write your own config scripts from scratch just to use the basic functions of your hardware [00:14] but im going to agree to disagree cause im not looking for a deabte lol [00:14] debate* [00:15] sure new instances of malware, and viruses cant be detected, but thats rare [00:15] dont download porn [00:16] lol [00:16] you have to let software on your computer [00:16] it doesnt magically install itself [00:17] iv found that the synaptic package installer is very handy [00:17] who is the smart ubuntu user here? [00:18] moshy, not me [00:19] any way i have 2 hard drives that i need to repair the fat on and i have no clue where to start since im new to ubuntu [00:20] the recovery software include with the drives dose not work as it needs an active windows interface to recover and thy are my windows drives [00:20] any sugestions? === Jeff_ is now known as Guest36495 [00:34] man, why is the mouse always so slow :D *changing mouse acceleratioon to 15x and pointer threshold to 2px/ :D [00:47] does anyone know how to use sfdisk? [00:54] un saludo [00:59] Hey...I have a strange problem on my Kubuntu laptop...Diablo 2 won't play or install...it can't find the CD, even when it's in the drive or an ISO is mounted. [01:00] anybody? [01:04] hihi? [01:15] EldonG , Hello and i have no idea [01:16] are you using wine? [01:20] Yeah, using wine...I don't get it. === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [01:24] Heck...I installed Oblivion. the other day...but it crashes. [01:27] any gamers in here? [01:41] cant help with wine [01:41] sorry [01:41] I dont use it [01:41] if its not native, Im not interested [01:41] got a ps3 for all the latest gaming [01:53] Hey guys [01:53] Ive got a weird problem. I cant seem to copy files to the USB. it seems to just copy like a symlink or some shit. [01:54] Anyone around? [01:55] sayeghr: patience ... [01:55] Just wanting to make sure people are around, sorry. === mgagne is now known as wftl [02:11] is anyone here? [02:11] i got a q [02:12] what is the diff between kubuntu and ubuntu? [02:12] kubuntu uses KDE for its desktop environment whereas ubuntu uses gnome3/unity. [02:12] Thats about it. [02:12] ah ok and which is nicer looking? [02:13] I liked gnome 2 [02:13] but with the new version, gnome 3 and unity [02:13] I think its a piece of shit [02:13] sayeghr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:13] So... I use kubuntu (for kde, which in my opinon looks better and runs better) [02:14] oh ok thank you man and have u tried other linux distros? [02:15] Archlinux [02:15] I like it a lot. Its a bit difficult to get going out of hte gate, but if you are somewhat experienced, I highly recommend it. [02:15] Otherwise, kubuntu or ubuntu is a good start. [02:15] interesting whats that like ? i have used ubuntu and puppy linux [02:16] archlinux all the packages get compiled on the fly [02:16] switching over to Kubuntu right now [02:16] instead of prepackaged binaries [02:16] ya, kubuntu is a good choice [02:16] archlinux is the latest and greatest [02:16] sayeghr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:16] so, sometimes it breaks [02:16] kubuntus been solid so far for me. [02:16] ah i see so i would have to know a lot for that to work out? === winston is now known as Guest52441 [02:18] kubuntu no, its easy. [02:18] you've got it [02:18] arch is mroe complicated, yes. [02:18] thats what i meant [02:20] hows linux mint? [02:21] dunno, Ive only really used archlinux, ubuntu, fedora, and redhat. [02:23] kk thanks dude u have been great help [02:23] Awesome, take it easy bro. [02:24] Hey guys, Ive got a weird problem. I cant seem to copy files to the USB. it seems to just copy like a symlink or some shit. [02:24] sayeghr: please keep the language clean [02:24] "archlinux all the packages get compiled on the fly" umm what? That's only the case for stuff out of AUR. === briskair is now known as briskair_ [02:27] whats LXDE ? [02:27] http://lxde.org/ [02:28] thanks [02:29] not sure [02:30] can u install multiple graphical enviornments on one system? [02:30] Yes [02:31] The login screen will have a dropdown box that lets you select which one you want to use for that session. [02:31] ok when i come back will someone teach me? [02:33] BlackF1r3: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lxde [02:34] kk [02:34] That should install lxde === marco is now known as Guest39577 [02:44] im using xfce and need to recover the file alocation tabel on 2 windows hard drives however i cant seem to find a drive interface any place , is that some kind of package i need to install? [03:15] moshy: Hm.. I've had to do stuff similar to that before. It was a while ago, and Linux has surely moved on a long way - for me it was the pointers to the FAT (in the first 512bytes of the partition) that I'd managed to clear. [03:17] moshy: I ended up using dd and compiling a little utility that used linux header files that described the fat - and poking in values myself, after wading through the disk to find the position of the FATs [03:17] moshy: (and then dd'ing it back). [03:18] moshy: I'm talking 8+ years ago now that I really think of it! [03:19] moshy: ?>? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk ?? [04:22] hey...I asked before...but...does anybody play Diablo 2 that might help me? [04:28] EldonG: obviously you are not going to ask any questions, iike how to play. :) just ask the problem [04:28] Ok...Kubuntu sees the disk, but D2 doesn't. Very strange. [04:29] what do you mean by sees the disk? [04:37] Greetings, all. [04:40] he LINKSWORD2 [04:40] *hey [04:41] What's up? [04:42] nothing much, you join the -offtopic? [04:44] Oy, let's try this again. Linkmaster, can you give me the info / command to join offtopic? [04:44] What client are you using? [04:45] That was strange. [04:45] Anyway, I'm using Quassel IRC on Kubuntu 11. [04:45] Linkmaster: do you think clients are relevant? commands are processed be the node [04:46] *be=by [04:46] lol @ c2tarun [04:46] c2tarun: no, but if he was using a client familiar to me, I was just going to tell him that way instead [04:46] Well, Linkmaster, are you familiar with Quassel IRC? [04:46] LINKSWORD2: press the 'join' at the top, click on the channel section and type #kubuntu-offtopic and there you go [04:46] LINKSWORD2: its my favorite :D [04:47] or just click on #kubuntu-offtopic <--- here [04:47] Thanks, c2tarun [04:49] ... Crash-fest/ [04:49] ?* [04:50] Is there a keyboard command to switch between open channels? [04:51] not sure, but c2tarun thanks for teaching me something new [04:52] LINKSWORD2: for Quassel I dont know, but there are keyboard shortcuts in konversation. [04:53] LINKSWORD2: in quassel its Alt+DOWN/UP [04:53] OK, thanks. [04:54] anytime you want a shortcut just take a look at settings>configure shortcuts. If there is any you can use it, or configure it accordingly :) [04:55] does anybody know what the major differences...if any...there are between Mint 10 KDE and Kubuntu 11.04? I'm trying to decide on a KDE flavor [04:56] tx0105: well differences in mint and kubuntu are diff then diff in KDE versions, you can tell us the version of KDE you are using. [04:56] kubuntu 11.04 supplied with kde 4.6.2 [04:59] so kubuntu has the newer version of KDE? [04:59] tx0105: yep, 4.6.3 [04:59] and if you really know what your doing[through neon I believe] you can run the beta of 4.7 [05:00] for more info you can ping guys in #project-neon [05:02] Ok, ugraded to Natty and kpackagekit (tray icon) is STILL missbehaving ... :( [05:02] mr-rich: what are they doing ;) they tray icons? [05:03] They's BOUNCING! :D [05:03] really?? O_O [05:03] xD [05:03] c2tarun: well, the update icon eats up all the fds that dbus has and sends dbus thrashing the cpu ... [05:03] does VLC cause freeze of kwin and 100% X ussage for anyone besides me? [05:04] * c2tarun that sounded geek :( [05:04] darthanubis: nope [05:04] darthanubis: kill kpackagekit icon and it will stip [05:04] stop [05:04] using a nvidia 8400gs card? [05:05] OGAWD!!! Not that again... [05:05] kpackagekit icon is not running to be killed [05:05] darthanubis: run top in CLI and see what's eating the CPU ... [05:05] X [05:05] :P I dunno, what's eating you? [05:05] darthanubis: not dbus? [05:05] darthanubis: or you can press ctrl+esc and see whats killing (both are equally good :)) [05:06] ... I'm sorry, my brain is in smartass mode tonight. [05:06] X prevents any key cmds for working [05:07] darthanubis: try ctrl+esc [05:07] darthanubis: are you using free free drivers or vendor drivers? [05:07] nvidias [05:07] from th erepos [05:07] repos [05:08] darthanubis: so you ran the "get extra drivers" pgm? [05:08] yes [05:08] Hey guys, I've checked the digital clock settings, and I can't find any way to enlarge the font. Kubuntu 11.04 Natty. [05:09] LINKSWORD2: system settings> application appearance [05:10] OK, I'll check that. [05:11] c2tarun: debus will behave for like 3-5 days, then I'll find the cpu pegged on high ... [05:12] c2tarun: I'll check the # of fds open and sure enough, it 1024 ... [05:12] Thanks again, c2tarun [05:12] c2tarun: I kill the update icon (kpackagekit) and it dropes to ~100 or so ... [05:13] mr-rich: is you system fully updated? [05:13] fully ... [05:13] the only program I don't update is tvtime ... [05:14] WTF is that? lol [05:14] The latest version of tvtime will crash on startup because of my usb camera ... [05:14] mr-rich: then I fear I cant help you. I am not able to think of anything that might causing that problem, hang around for a while, someone will surely reply :) [05:14] tvtime is a tv viewing program ... [05:15] xD [05:15] c2tarun: the temp work around is to kill kpackagekit every couple of days ... [05:15] it respawns in a few minutes anyway ... [05:16] mr-rich: in that way you will not be able to get the benefits of autmatic update I guess [05:16] c2tarun: the icon respawns ... [05:16] always comes back ... [05:17] takes a few days to eat up all the fds and then hammers the CPU ... [05:18] beats rebooting every week ... :) [05:18] ;p; [05:18] lol* [05:19] Well, all.... I'm signing off for the night. [05:19] See ya'll later. [05:21] hi. what do i have to do to remove from wallet the the access to network connections? [05:45] Open the Wallet Manager and delete the wallet. But if you do that, you'll have to enter your password each time. [05:50] or if i disabled wallet manager? [06:36] well why do you have to do any such thing to access network connection? Can't you just access it directly? [06:45] c2tarun: you have a password for wifi? [06:45] frogonwheels: ya [06:46] c2tarun: well that's why you need access to the wallet. [06:46] (for right or wrong) [06:47] frogonwheels: actually I was referring to question of akis, he asked to remove the wallet, we can enter the password and acces network con. and if he dont have wallet password then I guess he cannot remove it as well. [06:48] oh yeah sorry, so you were:) akis ^^^^ [06:49] frogonwheels: I dont think he is still here :( [06:50] c2tarun: nope. not. :) oh wel === Nixit is now known as DigitalD0|| [07:32] is kubuntu site down? ubuntu.com works but not kubuntu.org [07:35] simion314: Unable to Connect? [07:36] Unit193: yes [08:27] hello :) [08:31] I recently installed kubuntu having been a ubuntu user for a while. I'm trying to configure KDE with the shortcuts I'm used to. I noticed that the Global Keyboard Shortcuts utility doesn't allow mouse and keyboard combinations e.g. control+shift+click to close a window, control+alt+click drag to free rotate cube. Is there any way to do this? [08:33] (I'd like to stick to Kwin, and not switch to compiz) [09:05] hello [09:06] is there a standard way to have kde/qt apps start minimised? [09:12] cousin_mario: my first guess is playing around with qdbus... [09:13] but i couldn't find anything useful there... [09:13] cousin_mario: try poking around in there. you might get lucky [09:16] hello. A friend of mine is trying to update from maverick to natty using the GUI. The computer is blocked on "Installing update : 93%" and has not done anything more for hours. I only have a ssh access to it. I dont dare rebooting [09:16] pstree shows there are processes such as : natty───dpkg───linux-image-2.6───sh───update-initramf───mkinitramfs───mkinitramfs─┬─awk [09:16] and modprobe (under mkinitramfs) [09:16] top shows nothing special [09:17] /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log isn't touche since 1.5 hours ago [09:18] i've only done (successful) cli-only update using do-release-upgrade, so i'm a little bit stuck on this one [09:20] it seems the mkinitramfs is blocked. There is an empty file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic.new === david is now known as dhuerlimann [09:52] can someone upload the last version of kmess at ubuntu? (this one has network connection loss bug) [09:52] fayaz: I'm not sure what that is... [10:09] hey i get this [10:10] sudo apt-get update [10:10] E: Type 'src' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kmess-packages-kmess-stable-natty.list [10:10] E: The list of sources could not be read. [10:10] how do i fix it?\ [10:10] shockrates: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:16] cousin_mario: qdbus? its a mechanism kde uses for ipc stuff... [10:22] fayaz: Ok, I'm not very familiar with it. [10:23] fayaz: I'm just trying to have a particular app start minimised. [10:24] cousin_mario: qdbus command can be handy... just try it... the arguments are tabcompleted... [10:28] fayaz: hmm, interesting [10:30] fayaz: only it allows me to do everything but operate on the window gadgets === damaltor1 is now known as damaltor [11:16] Hi ! [11:16] I have a problem with Kubuntu : http://zupimages.net/up/0/1452279773.jpeg <= Screenshot === ludovic_ is now known as moi [11:16] I don't know if you understand French :/ [11:19] Gary-Stead: I see you get an error message, but do you still get sound? [11:20] valorie: In KDE no [11:20] valorie: Wait i try from other application [11:20] Ha >< I have a sound [11:20] But he is listen 1 time on 2 [11:20] you might try #pulseaudio for more specific help [11:21] sorry, I'm off to bed [11:21] :/ Ok [11:21] test [11:41] Are there anything like gnome-do for KDE? there was katapult in the old days. [11:52] hello, how can i create split archive using 7z? maybe with Ark? [11:52] bbl [12:03] hi! is 11.04 a LTS release? [12:04] BenceF: no [12:04] simion314: whats the release cycle for LTS releases in kubuntu? [12:05] 10.04 is LTS and 12.04 will be a LTS [12:05] so its every two years then [12:05] BenceF: there are 2 years between 2 LTS [12:05] BenceF: yes [12:05] ok [12:07] thanks [12:07] is there a way to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 directly? [12:11] o.o [12:11] anyone alive [12:11] #kubuntu-offtopic [12:11] ops [12:12] cogito ergo sum [12:12] lol [12:13] how you you say that in english [12:13] "i think so i am"? [12:13] therefor [12:19] yeah :) [12:19] rene decartes ftw [12:27] so is there anyone who programs in c++ here? what compiler do you use? [12:28] g++ [12:29] kubuntu [12:33] heh [12:33] Chronix:, are you learning C++ ? [12:33] i kinda know the basics already but i have been programming on windows [12:34] and i just switched to kubuntu yesterday [12:34] and its my first time i use linux more than a day [12:34] :P [12:34] i dont plan on going back to windows anytime soon [12:34] i was using visual studio i thought of using codeblocks as it looks similar and isnt bad [12:37] kdevelop is the c/c++ ide included with KDE SC [12:37] it does many other languages too [12:38] i dont wanna think about other languages right now.. i mainly plan to develop games and i wish to try and get them cross platform [12:39] compilers and IDEs are different [12:40] visual studio is not a compiler, neither is kdevelop [12:40] well i know its an ide [12:40] i was just taking it general [12:40] ly [12:40] speaking [12:40] Chronix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:41] i think ill probably use codeblocks as i like it.. but i wonder if its worth it [12:41] i mean, if its good [12:49] i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, now all i get is a black screen .. :(~ [12:50] ShorTie: does pressing ctrl+alt+f2 take you to a terminal login? [12:51] ya, can get to netroot in recovery [12:57] Chronix: i use vim to write code and compile it with g++ [12:57] Chronix: i think learning the language is the most important thing, the program you use to write the code is mostly irrelevent [12:57] is there a boot log somewhere i can look at? [12:58] i have followed almost every video from antiRTFM on youtube [12:58] i think ill just make an advanced text rpg and probably once i finish it ill move on to SDL [13:03] i haven't heard of antirtfm before [13:04] http://www.youtube.com/antiRTFM [13:05] he covers most things about basics [13:10] i think i prefer books to videos [13:11] what books do you suggest [13:12] !offtopic [13:12] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [13:12] just a kind reminder ^ [13:12] im already on that channel [13:13] i've never learnt C++ so i ca't really comment on C++, but i found 'The C Programming Language' great for learning C [13:13] anyone here using tata photon+ on kubuntu? [13:17] Chronix: #c++ will have a lot to say about learning c++ [13:17] thank you jacobw :P === szal_ is now known as szal [13:37] Morning. My wireless connection automatically disconnects when the screen locks, or I close my laptop lid. How do I change this behaviour? [14:06] is there any chance that we see KDE 4.7b in Kubuntu repos soon ? [14:16] Hi [14:17] whats channel Ubuntu italy? [14:21] !it | takoski [14:21] takoski: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [14:22] Hi i have a problem for Xdcc send [14:22] i use ubuntu 11.04 and konversation [14:23] program tell me Sorry, this command is unsupported [14:27] Howdy all [14:28] ? [14:28] Hi i have a problem for Xdcc send [14:28] program tell me Sorry, this command is unsupported [14:28] takoski: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:46] oin #ubuntu.hu [14:54] hello [15:04] hello [15:04] what's the recommended multimedia plugin to use with firefox? [15:08] cousin_mario: for what type of mulimedia? [15:09] dan_l: wmv, avi, mpg... [15:09] cousin_mario: that stuff isn't working out of the box for you? [15:09] dan_l: not really [15:10] dan_l: what plugin are you using, in case it does for you? [15:10] vlc multimedia plugin [15:10] but that might be because I have VLC installed [15:15] dan_l: that was my choice as well, but it doesn't appear to be working:/ [15:15] send me a link to what isn't working? [15:15] oh, wait, I had another plugin installed as well [15:16] trying again [15:19] dan_l: found a link that won't work, but it's not exactly SFW [15:19] I'm not exactly at work. [15:19] you can pm it over [15:20] dan_l: err, is there anything I can do to debug it in place?:) [15:21] There are occasional problems with websites that are off the interwebz beaten path. Perhaps go here and identify where exactly the problem is: http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~argyle/browser_plugin_test.html [15:22] but come on man, it's 9:30 am. Pr0n already? :) [15:22] it's 16:22 for me:) [15:24] dan_l: the mpg test page is not opening:/ [15:25] any chance it's geoip limited? [15:25] http://www.archive.org/details/test-mpeg [15:25] try that? [15:26] dan_l: do you live in East Canada? [15:27] mr-rich, are you calling me french? [15:27] No. I'm from Chicago. [15:27] aha ... [15:27] dan_l: that crashes as well [15:27] It's a small town near a big lake. Why do you ask? [15:27] wrong direction ... [15:27] cousin_mario, so it loads the page and crashes out on you? [15:28] dan_l: it crashes when I click the link [15:28] it's 10:30 here ... [15:28] the .mpg file, that is [15:28]