[03:51] <gggs> any idea why the gnome calendar applet starts the week on Monday, despite the en_AU locale?
[04:20] <gorilla> gggs: we do start the week on the Monday.
[04:24] <gggs> gorilla: s/Monday/Sunday/ , I've answered my own question though, there's an error in the locale
[04:25] <gorilla> gggs: ahh. A bug in locale?? :-/
[04:26] <gggs> gorilla: yea, "first_weekday" is "1", the same as en_US; in en_GB "first_weekday" and "first_workday" are "2"
[04:27] <gorilla> eww.
[04:27] <gggs> en_AU has "first_weekday 1", en_US has "first_weekday 1 \n first_workday 2", en_GB has "first_weekday 2 \n first_workday 2"
[04:29] <gggs> the locale has full contact details of the guy who wrote it, but it also says he wrote it in 1996. How should I file a bug/submit a diff?
[04:32] <gorilla> I think you treat it as a bug in Ubuntu and let the process at Ubuntu decide if they want to take it on board internally or not. Something five years old since the last update could be orphaned.
[04:35] <gggs> gorilla: I found it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/192507 ; someone changed the status to "Won't Fix" because "I just talked to some Australians who said that they consider Sunday the start of week."
[04:35] <lubotu2> Launchpad bug 192507 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu) "en_AU locale: first day of week incorrect" [Low,Fix released]
[04:36] <gggs> oh hey a bot
[04:38] <gorilla> yeah meet lubotu2 :-) It will fetch any link and provide the html head contents. LP #192507 would also work. I think.
[04:38] <lubotu2> Launchpad bug 192507 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu) "en_AU locale: first day of week incorrect" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192507
[04:42] <gorilla> gggs: looks like it has been fixed.. or at least configurable.
[04:43] <gggs> gorilla: page says "Confirmed → Invalid", then "Won't Fix → Fix Released" back in 2008, but I can't see anywhere you could configure it
[04:45] <gorilla> yea, the last update is vague: "Thanks, that was my suggestion - make it configurable in panel.". Feel free to bump it!
[04:45] <gggs> how do I do that?
[04:51] <gorilla> gggs: I'm currently working but you would need to be log into launch pad and post an appropriate comment.
[04:53] <gggs> sure thing, I'm trying to get hold of the dev who changed it's status first
[05:02] <gggs> I should probably make sure my fix worked first
[05:07] <gorilla> gggs: fair enough. Sounds like and good idea.
[05:14] <gggs> I was running 10.04, I installed 11.04 yesterday & I'm still trying to get it right
[05:29] <gggs> hmm, changing first_weekday didn't fix it
[05:46] <gggs> disregard that, running locale-gen fixed it, calendar now starts on a Monday
[06:26] <gggs> apparently to get 'Monday' changed as the first day of the week upstream, I need to provide some sort of official reference; any ideas?
[06:30] <gorilla> australia government web sites..
[06:35] <gorilla> gggs: I could have a better look tonight but even wikipedia said somewhere that the first day of the week is Monday.
[06:36] <gggs> tried that, but I wouldn't know where to start: "Australian Government official policy on the first day of the week"? it's an ISO standard & default for the UK, but not for Aus
[06:58] <gorilla> gggs: This is almost good enough to me. http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/parenting/index.php/couriermail/comments/so_which_day_is_the_first_day_of_the_week which is good enough for me, it refers to ISO-8601
[07:08] <gggs> gorilla: nice, I can't find where she referenced that from though
[07:12] <gggs> gorilla: I think I found it- "AS ISO 8601-2007", which superseded "AS 3802:1997", but you have to pay $109 just for the PDF
[07:14] <gorilla> Yeah, you could be right. Someone should be able to give you the relevant page that states which is the First day... I still think that it's Monday :-)
[07:16] <gggs> I agree :)
[10:25] <head_victim> sagaci: I just changed to the next team meeting's chair on the meeting page
[10:25] <head_victim> I didn't realise it was possible until I actually looked for it ;)
[10:28] <sagaci> no worries, thanks
[10:28] <head_victim> And on that revelation I'm off for the night I think. Got some stuff to catch up on.
[10:33] <sagaci> righteo no worries
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