[00:00] <Unit193> I still had 2 weeks!
[00:02] <Cheri703> gilbert: the send keys directions aren't working for me
[00:02] <Cheri703> from that page
[00:04] <gilbert> http://subkeys.pgp.net/ looks broken itself :(
[00:04] <Cheri703> ah, k
[00:04] <gilbert> try pgp.mit.edu
[00:05] <Cheri703> that may be the issue? I keep getting "cheri francis is not a key id" and yet on the webpage, it says to put gpg --send-keys 'Your Name' --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
[00:05] <Cheri703> so somewhere there is a disconnect between the directions and what I'm typing, it is entirely possible that it's me and how I'm reading it
[00:06] <gilbert> make sure you maintain proper capitalization
[00:06] <Cheri703> I did the first few attempts
[00:06] <gilbert> same as output of 'gpg --list-keys'
[00:06] <Cheri703> should it have the 'around' the name?
[00:07] <gilbert> yes
[00:07] <Cheri703> same thing
[00:08] <gilbert> try using your email instead of your name
[00:08] <Cheri703> same in varying configurations and even name + email
[00:09] <Cheri703> and using the pgp.mit.edu
[00:09] <gilbert> try just email
[00:09] <Cheri703> list keys shows "uid Cheri Francis <cheri703@gmail.com>"
[00:09] <Cheri703> did that
[00:09] <Cheri703> did it with and without the <> too
[00:10] <Cheri703> it just says "not a key id: skipping" and repeats that for each other section of the command
[00:10] <gilbert> try using your fingerprint (the characterstring after pub 1024d/)
[00:10] <Cheri703> k
[00:11] <Cheri703> maybe it worked?
[00:11] <Cheri703>  gpg --send-keys '7D79CA11' --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edugpg: "--keyserver" not a key ID: skipping
[00:11] <Cheri703> gpg: "hkp://pgp.mit.edu" not a key ID: skipping
[00:11] <Cheri703> gpg: sending key 7D79CA11 to hkp server keys.gnupg.net
[00:12] <Cheri703> there should be a new line after mit.edu
[00:13] <gilbert> it worked http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?search=cheri+francis&op=index
[00:13] <Cheri703> ok
[00:13] <gilbert> the command order is wrong in those instructions it seems.  keyserver needs to come first
[00:13] <Cheri703> kk, weird
[00:13] <Cheri703> might send that to the list as well
[00:14] <Unit193> The guide on Launchpad wasn't bad...
[00:14] <Cheri703> thanks for your help :)
[00:15] <gilbert> no problem :)
[00:21] <gilbert> going afk for a while
[00:26] <Cheri703> http://thedailywh.at/2011/05/29/look-at-this-dog-paddling-dog-of-the-day/
[01:13] <Unit193> Welcome back jgould!
[01:14] <Unit193> And dang hitting the wrong keys!
[01:39] <Unit193> Hmmm.... X :0 is taking up 42% cpu
[01:48] <MarkDude> Hello Ohio
[01:48] <MarkDude> paultag, ping
[01:48]  * MarkDude wanted to know if you would help/observe me leading Oregons 1st IRC meeting in a few years
[01:48] <MarkDude> Should take ten minutes- maybe 15
[01:49]  * jgould wanders in
[01:50] <MarkDude> 7pm my time
[01:50] <MarkDude> hello jgould
[01:50] <jgould> 'Ello
[01:50] <MarkDude> I am in Cali- I stop by to bug the Ohio team every so often
[01:50] <jgould> that would be 10PM our time if they are in the westren part of OR
[01:51] <MarkDude> Since they are one of the coolest- which is weird- since I thought Cleveland would be more of a detriment
[01:51]  * MarkDude kids 
[01:51] <MarkDude> :)
[01:53] <jgould> appearantly, I have a doggie top computer now...
[01:55] <jgould> The dog has his head in my lap and won't move...
[01:57] <Cheri703> o/ MarkDude
[01:57] <jgould> \o Cheri703
[01:57] <Unit193> Howdy MarkDude (I've seen you on wiki edits)
[01:58] <Cheri703> hey jgould
[01:58] <Cheri703> how's cbus?
[01:59] <MarkDude> Hello Cheri703 Unit193
[01:59] <jgould> it was nice the last time I was out (at 7 this morning)
[01:59] <Cheri703> heh
[01:59]  * MarkDude gets around :)
[01:59] <jgould> How's up north
[01:59] <Cheri703> reasonable
[01:59] <Cheri703> it was hot today
[02:00] <Cheri703> MarkDude: are you coming out for OLF?
[02:00] <MarkDude> That penguin thing you shared was awesome Cheri703 - I am pondering doing a blog post on it
[02:00] <MarkDude> When is OLF?
[02:00]  * MarkDude had to miss SELF this year- not happy about it
[02:00] <MarkDude> Courtney and I both miss it
[02:00] <jgould> \o Cheri703 from teh houes
[02:00] <jgould> er
[02:01] <jgould> I'm thinking I don't have an excuse to not go to OLF,  It's down the street from the house
[02:01] <jgould> i really need to get the kinks worked out of this trackpad...
[02:01] <Cheri703> september 9th-11th
[02:02] <MarkDude> Sept- I may be able to make it- I will see if I can be sponsored
[02:02] <MarkDude> That would be cool to go to
[02:02] <Cheri703> I've offered to a few people: if you don't mind carpooling down with me, you can crash here :)
[02:02] <MarkDude> VEry cool
[02:03] <MarkDude> That would make it easier for me asking for $
[02:03] <MarkDude> Who knows I may be hired by then
[02:03] <jgould> I always ask for $ just becasue you never know...
[02:03] <MarkDude> Well yes- is there still time for CFP?
[02:04]  * MarkDude thinks OLF could maybe use my Linux is a cult talk- 
[02:04] <jgould> Ow... I just hit my self in the head with my laptop
[02:05] <MarkDude> Careful
[02:05] <Cheri703> cfp?
[02:05] <Cheri703> maybe
[02:05] <Cheri703> let me see if I have the email still
[02:05] <jgould> I know.  Steve would be might pissed if I broke the laptop with my head while running Linux ;)
[02:06] <Cheri703> looks like the deadline was may 1, but who knows if it's still open
[02:07] <Cheri703> I thought I'd seen something about it being extended
[02:07] <Cheri703> ah, MarkDude http://ohiolinux.org/node/57
[02:07] <Cheri703> extended til june 1
[02:07] <Cheri703> thought so
[02:09] <MarkDude> Cool- I think I can do that
[02:10]  * jgould reads through the condensed comic strips that Unit193 posts
[02:12] <jgould> Damn it, I can't get comfrotable
[02:12]  * Cheri703 is installing xp on a laptop >.< I hate it
[02:12] <jgould> Nor can i spell
[02:13] <jgould> Is that on that Dell, Cheri703
[02:13] <MarkDude> Xp is still better than Vista
[02:13] <canthus13> DOS 3.3 is still better than Vista.
[02:13] <gilbert> i keep xp around via vbox
[02:14] <gilbert> winme was even better than vista
[02:14] <jgould> I keep XP in a vbox as well
[02:15] <jgould> speaking of which...
[02:15] <Cheri703> yeah jgould
[02:16] <Cheri703> it's for my brother
[02:16] <jgould> Woah! gilbert's here
[02:16] <Cheri703> I just hate the install process, it takes SO LONG
[02:17] <jgould> and it restarts three times I think...
[02:17] <jgould> The Mac OS has it down to once: at the end...
[02:17] <Cheri703> well, more than that when you factor in the 2987384 updates it has to install -_-
[02:17] <gilbert> jgould: hehe, yeah.  making an effort to have an irc presence again ;)
[02:17] <jgould> Exactly
[02:18] <gilbert> jgould: anyway, sounds like clintonville is the winner.  i'll send an email out tomorrow
[02:18] <jgould> Ah.  I'm here pretty regularly, unless our router goes belly up
[02:18] <jgould> Are we still meeting at 6:30?
[02:19] <gilbert> we were meeting at 6, but that's a bit early for me anymore.  630 would be good
[02:19] <jgould> I was going to say that 7 would be even better.  Makes it easier for people to get off of work and then show up
[02:20] <gilbert> jgould: yeah, thats the problem ive been having.  i'll make it 7
[02:25] <jgould> This laptop isn't so cold after it's been running for about 20 mintues...
[02:26] <Unit193> jgould: The comics I post? (Don't link it)
[02:27] <jgould> Yes, Unit
[02:27] <Unit193> Cheri703: You don't like ncurses, right?
[02:27] <jgould> that consolidated list of comics
[02:28] <Unit193> jgould > My channel?
[02:29]  * jgould is hungry
[02:29] <Cheri703> I don't know anything about it as far as I know
[02:30] <Unit193> newsbeuter Syncs with google reader
[02:31] <jgould> newsbeuter?
[02:32] <Unit193> jgould: Yep! Do you use Google Reader?
[02:32] <jgould> Yep
[02:32] <jgould> Have for years
[02:38] <jgould> Now if only I could sort out this track pad issue
[02:57] <Unit193> jgould: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/newsbeuter-cli-feed-reader-gains-google.html
[03:11] <MarkDude> paultag, unping- It appears no one has showed up to the first IRC meeting
[03:11] <MarkDude> So it is a log of me talking to myself- which I will share via ML :D
[03:12] <Unit193> Did ya have a meetbot?
[03:23] <JonathanD> MarkDude is here too?
[03:24]  * MarkDude is everywhere :)
[03:24] <MarkDude> Kinda like mold
[03:24] <MarkDude> Hey JonathanD
[03:24] <JonathanD> hi.
[03:24]  * JonathanD is camping.
[03:24] <Cheri703> hi JonathanD
[03:24] <canthus13> Meh. campers should be banned.
[03:24] <Unit193> Howdy JonathanD!
[03:25] <Cheri703> :) you're like me, I make sure I can at least check my email while out and about
[03:25] <JonathanD> non-geeknic, though.
[03:25] <canthus13> Oh. CAMPING.
[03:25] <canthus13> nevermind.
[03:25] <JonathanD> yes, canthus13
[03:25] <JonathanD> around a fire.
[03:25] <JonathanD> not around the base.
[03:25] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:25] <JonathanD> here, have a smore.
[03:25] <canthus13> Couldn't leave your laptop long enough to enjoy the outdoors?
[03:26]  * canthus13 eyes Cheri703.
[03:26] <Unit193> I just glad he spells his name correctly ;)
[03:26] <JonathanD> canthus13: I would have been fine but somehow I got pinged...
[03:26] <Cheri703> canthus13: I have internet on my phone...
[03:26] <Cheri703> don't need a laptop
[03:26] <canthus13> Cheri703: ...Chocolate...Marshmallow... graham crackers...
[03:26] <Cheri703> ahhh, yes
[03:26] <JonathanD> Yeh. I share a common irssi instance between phone and laptop. This is phone.
[03:27] <jgould> isn't ssh nice?
[03:27]  * canthus13 lurves his ssh/screen/irssi. :)
[03:28] <Cheri703> I tried quasseldroid, but no love for my phone :(
[03:28] <Unit193> canthus13: +1!
[03:28] <JonathanD> jgould: mostly.
[03:28] <JonathanD> it's difficult to manage on phone.
[03:28] <jgould> Fine on my BlackBerry
[03:28] <JonathanD> Still nice, though.
[03:29] <JonathanD> jgould: it's ok for a couple channels, I guess. Still awkward.
[03:29] <canthus13> jedIRC is usable... sort of.  On my phone, anyway.
[03:30] <jgould> Yeah...  Plus it reqires my home network to stay up...
[03:30] <Cheri703> I use andchat when mobile
[03:30] <canthus13> JonathanD: Heh.
[03:30] <JonathanD> I've been meaning for YEARS now to make something for phone use...
[03:31] <dmcglone> hidie ho neighbors
[03:31] <canthus13> NO FLANDERS.
[03:31] <JonathanD> I keep my irssi logs in sql, I thought it would be useful to pull down logs of channels I care about to my phone via sql, so my one instance could serve both phone and laptop but phone would get a lot less content.
[03:32] <jgould> JonathanD: I would seriously go with andrioid of you are planning on making your own program
[03:32] <jgould> well, writing
[03:34] <JonathanD> jgould: I'd just write the irrsi side and let the 'market work it ou'
[03:34] <JonathanD> anyway.
[03:34] <JonathanD> back to the fire.
[03:43] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ gpg --recipient 0f0f4ffa --recipient --encrypt nomination.txt
[03:43] <dmcglone> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[03:43] <dmcglone> gpg: processing message failed: eof
[03:44] <jgould> Where the hell did I put my glasses
[03:44] <Cheri703> dmcglone: I didn't bother with the encryption, just the clearsign thing
[03:44] <dmcglone> clearsign?
[03:44] <Cheri703> the first part of the instructions
[03:45] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ gpg--clearsign nomination.txt
[03:45] <dmcglone> gpg--clearsign: command not found
[03:46] <dmcglone> ah
[03:46] <dmcglone> missed the space
[03:46] <dmcglone> duh me
[03:46] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ gpg --clearsign nomination.txt
[03:46] <dmcglone> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[03:46] <dmcglone> gpg: nomination.txt: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[03:47] <jgould> Cheri703: I think we all know who you voted for... :)
[03:47] <Cheri703> well, they told me I had to cast an official vote
[03:47] <dmcglone> I'm just going to send an e-mail
[03:47] <dmcglone> lol
[03:47] <Cheri703> they said you have to
[03:48] <Cheri703> gilbert did earlier *shrug*
[03:48] <dmcglone> I can't even clearsign it
[03:48] <Cheri703> did you create the key?
[03:48] <dmcglone> yeah
[03:48] <dmcglone> that was the first step
[03:48] <Cheri703> no clue
[03:49] <dmcglone> david@buddy:~$ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 0f0f4ffa
[03:49] <dmcglone> gpg: requesting key 0F0F4FFA from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
[03:49] <dmcglone> gpg: key 0F0F4FFA: "Michael Gilbert <michael.s.gilbert@gmail.com>" not changed
[03:49] <dmcglone> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[03:49] <dmcglone> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[03:49] <Unit193> dmcglone: You use T-bird?
[03:49] <jgould> the directions worked for me.
[03:49] <dmcglone> No Unit193
[03:49] <jgould> Also, I want a cheese cuter
[03:50] <jgould> cutter
[03:50] <Cheri703> you want someone flatulent?
[03:51] <jgould> Heh
[03:51] <jgould> Nope
[03:51] <jgould> I want one of them cheese slicer doohickies
[03:51] <Cheri703> mmmhm
[03:52] <dmcglone> we should be able to just send an e-mail using our PGP sig
[03:52] <jgould> dmcglone: you can
[03:52] <dmcglone> thats what I'll do
[03:53] <dmcglone> if I can get my pgp sig set up in evolution... LOL
[03:53] <jgould> Not having a forward delete key makes Evolution a pita for me...
[03:53]  * Unit193 doesn't use Evolution
[03:54] <Unit193> dmcglone: I got the DB all worked out
[03:54] <dmcglone> it has a forward, and you use the delete key to delete
[03:54] <Unit193> dmcglone: I'll be testing Gnome 3 in a VM (Fedora)
[03:54] <dmcglone> Cool Unit193
[03:56] <jgould> dmcglone: I meant on my keyboard... forward delete is a two key combonation
[03:57] <dmcglone> I see
[03:58] <jgould> Macs lack the 'six pack' of keys that every other laptop has
[03:58] <dmcglone> dang I lost my gpg key and now it's taking forever to generate a new one :-/
[04:00] <dmcglone> Oh yeah, I heard I was up past my bedtime last night.... LOL
[04:02] <dmcglone> Unit193: what did you change on that DB?
[04:03] <Unit193> dmcglone: I just did an import > export
[04:03] <MarkDude> Yay, 1 person showed up to the meeting. We actually figured out a few things.
[04:03] <dmcglone> what did you export as?
[04:04] <Unit193> dmcglone: Exported with PHPMyAdmin
[04:04] <dmcglone> Unit193: do both our DB's match now?
[04:04] <dmcglone> :-) I see you took my advise
[04:04] <Unit193> I had to export sqlite > csv and THEN import it...
[04:05] <dmcglone> Ok so now I will need to upload a copy to mine right?
[04:08] <Unit193> dmcglone: > alt
[04:08] <dmcglone> ?
[04:41] <jgould> damn laptop
[04:44] <jgould> How the hell do I run out of ram
[04:44] <canthus13> jgould: you run pidgin. or gwibber. or windows.
[04:44] <Cheri703> or firefox
[04:44] <canthus13> Cheri703: ? I've never had issues with firefox sucking up all my ram.
[04:45] <Unit193> canthus13: Pidgin is working for me... (Xubuntu)
[04:46] <jgould> I'm runing firefox...  VLC crashed and said that It either had to sacrifice a child or kill vlc
[04:46] <canthus13> Unit193: I've had pidgin up and eat 1-2GB of ram just by being logged in.
[04:51] <jgould> So I sacrificed my child...
[04:52] <dmcglone> canthus13: my pidgin is using 18.9 MiB
[04:52] <canthus13> dmcglone: Mebbe they've fixed it by now.. that was a couple of years ago. :)
[04:52] <jgould> My head hurts
[04:52] <dmcglone> Good, cuz when you said that, I had to check
[04:54]  * jgould goes to make a pot of coffee...
[04:55] <Unit193> Welcome back, gilbert
[04:55]  * jgould offers coffee to the room
[04:56] <Unit193> jgould: Almost done with my last cup!
[04:56]  * jgould wishes he had a coffee robot
[04:56] <canthus13> jgould: Pester paultag about the linux coffee pot.
[04:57] <jgould> The linux coffee pot?
[05:00] <canthus13> jgould: Yup.
[05:00] <jgould> How does this work
[05:01] <Cheri703> ff runs up over 300mb easily, sometimes further
[05:01] <Cheri703> (was testing ad-hoc networks, sorry)
[05:02] <dmcglone1> ff might be bloated but I think it's the best out there :-/
[05:02] <canthus13> Cheri703: Oh. Meh. Big deal.  I have 4 gigs of ram. 300MB isn't bloat.
[05:02] <jgould> FF is great now that I added the 64 bit flash player...
[05:03] <Cheri703> for me it is...
[05:03] <Cheri703> I have 2gb, but....it slows it down
[05:03] <Cheri703> this thing chugs sometimes
[05:03] <canthus13> jgould: Here's one:  http://mag-murphy.net/2006-01-13/next-up-linux-on-a-freaking-coffee-pot
[05:03] <jgould> My coffee pot won't run linux, but you could use cron to schedule when to brew... XD
[05:04] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: I only have 1Gb and it doesn't slow things down here
[05:04] <Cheri703> it's....slow...netbook and all
[05:04] <jgould> canthus13: we were discussion system migration last night, I would imagine rsync for the data, but what about the packages?
[05:05] <canthus13> Heh. my kid's ancient 2ghz P4 handles it fine with 1.25GB ram.
[05:05] <canthus13> jgould: You can export a list of packages installed and then feed it back to apt... I forget how, though. :/
[05:06] <jgould> I'm sure that there is a tutorial out there somewhere. I'm planning ahead
[05:08] <MarkDude> Thx for the OLF offer Cheri703 - I will spend tomorrow seeing what I can write. I will also see about starting sponsorship now
[05:08] <Cheri703> cool :)
[05:09]  * Cheri703 would like to meet you in person!
[05:10] <jgould> OLF is open for anyone to attend, right?
[05:11] <Cheri703> yep
[05:11] <Cheri703> he's submitting a talk proposal
[05:11] <Cheri703> jgould: it's pretty interesting
[05:13] <jgould> I live pretty close to the GCCC (and know the inside like the back of my hand from working the Arnold sports fest every year...)
[05:14] <MarkDude> Well I am most likely to be sponsored
[05:14] <MarkDude> I am owed a few favors- I think OLF is worth calling them in
[05:14] <Cheri703> :)
[05:14] <dmcglone1> canthus13: jgould: use synaptic to export installed package list then use synaptic's import to import it when you want to re-install all your packages again
[05:14] <Cheri703> I'll be back in a while
[05:16] <jgould> anything that's been installed manually (or via a PPA) won't install on the new machine, right?
[05:18] <dmcglone1> jgould: you referring to the technique I showed you?
[05:19] <jgould> yeah.  I'm thinking ahead at this piint
[05:19] <jgould> er point
[05:20] <dmcglone1> if you install a .deb manually, it will show up in synaptic, but .tar files do not
[05:20] <dmcglone1> if you use a PPA they will also work, but you will have to set up the PPA before importing your package list
[05:46]  * Cheri703 is back
[05:46] <Cheri703> you may resume having fun ;)
[05:49] <canthus13> aw. damn. she's back. :/
[05:49] <canthus13> so much for teh party.
[05:58] <Cheri703> yeah yeah
[05:58]  * Cheri703 rules with an iron fist
[06:01] <Unit193> I don't seem to like open votes...
[06:02] <canthus13> Cheri703: Heh.
[06:03] <Cheri703> <evil laugh>
[06:05] <Unit193> As long as it's an iron fist and cookies...
[06:07]  * Unit193 likes cookies (most anyway...)
[06:29] <Unit193> Welcome back, jgould
[06:29] <Unit193> Router?
[06:30] <canthus13> Terrorists.
[06:31] <jgould> thank you.
[06:32] <jgould> Combonation of trying to do an rsync on Wireless, as well as the router
[06:33] <jgould> although, I do like canthus13's suggestion
[06:34] <jgould> I wonder why rsync kills my wireless...
[06:36] <canthus13> jgould: Hmm... how many connections does rsync open at once?
[06:36] <canthus13> too many open connections will kill a cheap router dead.
[06:37] <canthus13> they fill up memory, then can't be cleaned up because the cleanup routine has no room to work. (At least that's the way it was explained to me...)
[06:37] <jgould> I'm not moving that much data...  It pretty much kills my ability to do *naything* at once
[06:37] <jgould> canthus13: how do I tell
[06:38] <canthus13> Depends on the router.  Most don't have the facilities to monitor the usage.. and the ones that do, don't have the problem.  The easiest way to tell is by how much RAM the router has, though.  if it only has 8MB of ram, then it will probably suffer from the problem.
[06:44] <jgould> It's An apple Airport.... It probably doesn't have more than *MB of Ram
[06:44] <jgould> er 8
[06:45] <canthus13> Which one?
[06:45] <jgould> Airport Extreme, the 'Mushroom' one
[06:47] <canthus13> bah. I suck at these conversions. appears that the Airport Extreme has 2 256mbit DDR RAM chips... so whatever that converts to.
[06:49] <jgould> mbit?
[06:49] <jgould> really?
[06:49] <jgould> Ram is Cheap
[06:50] <canthus13> yes. mbit, not byte.
[06:52] <canthus13> Eh. wait. 128MB? No freakin' way.. enterprise-grade routers don't have that much ram.
[06:52] <canthus13> Well, some do, but you're talking about pretty heavy-duty stuff.
[06:52] <jgould> There's no way it has that much
[06:53] <canthus13> Yeah.
[06:54] <canthus13> It would make more sense for it to have 8MB RAM and 4MB flash...
[06:55] <jgould> either way it's an annoying pain the ass
[06:57] <jgould> I wonder if it would make more sense to run this Wired Router as the gateway and pass wireless through the Airport until my Valet gets replaced
[06:59] <canthus13> If you were in toledo, I'd loan you my 300N or my 614.
[07:02] <jgould> I still contend that there is something that is higher powered around here that knocks the 15db transmitter off the air...
[07:02] <Cheri703> is it 2.4ghz?
[07:02] <jgould> Si
[07:02] <Cheri703> cordless phones
[07:02] <Cheri703> my parents' internet did that until they got phones on a different frequency
[07:03] <Cheri703> every time they'd get a phone call, my wifi would cut out
[07:03]  * jgould lives in an apartment complex
[07:03] <Cheri703> you're screwed :)
[07:03] <Cheri703> OR
[07:03] <Cheri703> line the walls of your apt with foil :)
[07:03] <jgould> Then the cell phones won't work
[07:04] <Cheri703> but yeah, I'd bet a big part of the issue could be cordless phones
[07:04] <jgould> I think it's all of these AT&T Uverse boxes around here
[07:05] <Cheri703> could be
[07:06] <jgould> When I was having problems with the Valet, the poeple at Cisco are like "What channel is the router on" I'd answer that it was on 11, as it was one of the clearer channels around ehre, and they'd be like "ok, lets put it on 6"  6 is overly satruated....
[07:06] <Cheri703> >.<
[07:07] <Unit193> Call canthus13 next time? XD
[07:07] <Cheri703> alright, I'm off. have a good night
[07:07] <jgould> The thing is that everythign they had me do, I had already done...
[07:07] <jgould> Night Cheri703
[07:09] <jgould> That's it... my next comptuer will have a traditional BIOS....
[07:24] <jgould> It's 2:30 AM already?
[07:31]  * jgould blames Unit193
[07:34]  * Unit193 didn't do anything!
[07:35] <jgould> Still your fault :)
[07:36] <jgould> You can dist-upgrade from 10.04.1 to 11.04, right?
[07:36] <Unit193> Nope
[07:36] <Unit193> LTS > LTS and from one version to the next only
[07:37] <jgould> Aslo, Unit193 your prefered DE is XFCE, no?
[07:37] <Unit193> DE? Who uses them? ;) Kinda...
[07:38] <jgould> I saw a tutorial on changing that...  it is possible to do, just not easy.
[07:39] <Unit193> Changing...?
[07:39] <jgould> LTS > LTS upgrades
[07:48] <jgould> damn router...
[07:49] <jgould> if you go to synaptic, and into the software sources dialog, updates tab, at the bottom you can change what you upgrade to
[07:50]  * Unit193 still hasn't upgraded Lubuntu 10.10 > 11.04
[07:50]  * jgould upgrades Unit193
[07:51] <Unit193> You don't hear much good of upgrading...
[07:52] <jgould> No, clean installs tend to work better, IMHO
[07:53] <jgould> That's any OS
[07:54] <Unit193> And I don't really want to do that...
[09:30] <Unit193> I'm sure I wasn't the first one off...
[10:09] <jgould> what the hell do you mean, Unit193
[11:29] <jgould> there we go
[11:47] <jgould> Wow... A gigabit connection makes a whole lot of diffrence when you are moving data...
[12:51] <jgould> Ok.  keys are remapped to the way they should be now.  I'm feeling productive
[12:55] <jgould> Now to try to sort out the trackpad
[13:57] <dmcglone> http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/nutrismart-prototype-embeds-rfid-tags-directly-within-food-trac/
[14:16] <jgould> Really?
[14:16] <dmcglone> scary huh?
[14:18] <jgould> Wouldn't the acid in your stomach destroy the chop
[14:18] <jgould> er chip?
[14:19] <dmcglone> dunno :-/ it's supposed to be digestable, so I guess it's intended to come out the other end :-)
[14:19] <dmcglone> next they will have one that survives all the way to the toliet and you can analyze your shit.. LOL
[14:20] <dmcglone> I gotta go to the chiropractor. be back later
[14:20] <jgould> Heh
[14:21] <jgould> K
[14:52] <skellat> I wander in and things are quiet?  Yikes.
[14:54] <skellat> Is it shock over the Jim Tressel news?
[14:54]  * skellat wonders what happened
[15:10] <Cheri703> I have no clue
[15:10] <Cheri703> I haven't had tv service since last april
[15:10] <Cheri703> so....I saw a fb post about it and that's it :)
[15:11] <skellat> I don't follow OSU all that much in sports so I'm not sure what the hullabaloo is all about
[15:12] <Cheri703> something about an ncaa suspension previously
[15:12] <skellat> Do we have election results yet?  I delayed The Burning Circle this week just for that.
[15:12] <Cheri703> I dunno
[15:12] <Cheri703> I think it's next week
[15:12] <Cheri703> no idea why they gave it so much time
[15:14] <canthus13> dmcglone: That's creepy... Imagine. Public toilets that know who crapped in them.
[15:15] <Cheri703> easy enough to blame the person who doesn't flush though...
[15:15] <canthus13> Heh.
[15:15] <skellat> I highly doubt an RFID tag would survive the digestive tract
[15:15] <canthus13> skellat: Why not? coat it in glass.
[15:16] <Cheri703> they have cameras make it through...
[15:16] <canthus13> ..Or some sort of cellulose. (Corn skins are the reason for corn poop... They're indigestible.)
[15:16] <skellat> canthus13: It still has to be big enough to be able to radiate a signal, though.
[15:16] <Cheri703> yeah canthus13, that's where I was headed
[15:16] <skellat> Eeew
[15:16] <canthus13> iirc, rfid doesn't radiate anything.
[15:16] <Cheri703> was trying to decide a delicate way of phrasing it
[15:17] <canthus13> Hafta ask paultag.. He's the rfid expert around here.
[15:17] <canthus13> <- indelicate.
[15:18] <canthus13> Hmm.. apparently, some have batteries, some do not.
[15:19] <canthus13> But they can be the size of a grain of rice... so no problem swallowing one without knowing.
[15:20]  * skellat is bothered as he finds evidence that he's been sleepwalking again
[15:24] <skellat> Alrighty, so what else is new?
[15:28] <Cheri703> not a ton skellat
[15:28] <Cheri703> I need clients, but that's not new :)
[15:30] <Cheri703> I'm still being impatient about getting the new nook
[15:30] <Cheri703> aaaand that's it :)
[15:31] <jgould> I had my neighbor pound on the wall about 15 minutes ago... appareantly The Borne Identity was too loud...
[15:32] <skellat> Nice
[15:32] <jgould> of course I've pounded on the wall when his music is too loud or when they are screwing and tapping the wall with the bed.
[15:33] <gilbert> election deadline is june 12th
[15:34]  * jgould goes back to writing.  His muse has returned from vacation
[15:34] <skellat> gilbert: Oh.  Well, BC will come out later this week then.
[15:34] <gilbert> ok
[15:42] <skellat> So who all has to wander in to work tonight?  I have to be in at 1600.
[15:43]  * jgould is laid off until late July
[15:43] <jgould> I might be in bed by 1600...
[15:44] <jgould> Gah I have to get used to having the keys in the right spots...  I fixed my keyboard layout last night
[15:56] <canthus13> http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2011/may/25/wa-man-shot-with-arrow-daughter-arrested/
[15:58] <jgould> What!?!?!?
[16:00] <canthus13> Yeah. nuts.
[16:03]  * jgould wonders how hard this damn trackpad is going to be to get to work correctly
[16:06] <jgould> Any one in here have any experence in taming an overly sensitive trackpad?
[16:06] <skellat> canthus13: That featured in the program for LISNews.org that got posted last night.
[16:07] <skellat> jgould: How is it being overly sensitive?
[16:07] <jgould> any time I touch it, it acts as a click.  only workaround I've come up with so far is to turn off tap-to-click
[16:08] <jgould> I would prefer to tap to click, just on my terms, not it's... XD
[16:08] <skellat> jgould: That's about all you can do to fix that.
[16:08] <jgould> it's a driver issue.  I just haven't found my way around it...
[16:09]  * jgould blames skellat for the trackpad.
[16:13] <skellat> Trackpad ballistics are tough
[16:14] <jgould> I'm wondering if there are some settings in my Xorg.conf file I can feed the X server to make the trackpad work better
[16:20] <canthus13> Whee... another 'my wireless doesn't work' call... the idiot is in virginia, expecting to connect to her router in toledo.
[16:24] <jgould> Heh, canthus13
[16:25] <jgould> My wireless doesn't work half the time, and it's less than 10 feet away
[16:25] <skellat> canthus13: That would set a new land propagation record in the 2.4 gigahertz band if it were even remotely possible
[16:25] <jgould> yes it would, skellat
[16:26] <canthus13> skellat: Heh.  that reminds me... I hope I get an Alfa wireless card for my birthday.. it's on my wish list. :)
[16:28] <canthus13> the range on those is insane.. somewhere around 3-5 miles with a good antenna.
[16:30] <canthus13> http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-Wireless-Long-Rang-Panel/dp/B003YI4HRM/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I232ONU5OIWOE6&colid=1XD27SSD81OBQ
[16:31] <jgould> seems like overkill...
[16:32] <canthus13> jgould: It's fun to play with. :)
[16:32] <canthus13> and good for finding free net access.
[16:32] <skellat> It only produces one watt of power output.  In the grand scheme...that's not much of anything.
[16:32] <canthus13> (McDonalds, coffee shops, etc...)
[16:32] <jgould> I took one little 13 character snippet of that and pulled up the page.
[16:33] <jgould> Knowing someone that works at Amazon has its perks
[16:36] <canthus13> There's also a +9db antenna..
[16:37] <jgould> Could probably use that to heat up my coffee...
[16:38] <skellat> 1 W isn't enough to heat coffee.  Even a microwave even borders on a 1 kW.
[16:38] <jgould> :P
[16:39] <canthus13> It could heat it...eventually... then again, evaporative cooling would probably counter it.
[16:41] <jgould> That's a great bug...  "The touchpad works very bad"
[16:44] <jgould> And part of my lower panel disappeared....
[16:45] <skellat> Gonna have to reboot
[16:45] <dmcglone> GFRER:-X
[16:45]  * jgould blinks
[16:59] <canthus13> jgould: Should try updating your video drivers.. might help the panel issues.
[16:59] <canthus13> Intel chipset, right?
[17:03] <jgould> Yeah, i915
[17:04] <jgould> There.  Now I should cool off...
[17:07] <jgould> I'm not sure that there is an update to the video drivers...
[17:16]  * jgould is having a Bourne Movie marathon over here
[17:32] <jgould> Today would be a good day to stay at home in the AC (or if you have to go out, go in a skirt... *nods*
[18:29]  * skellat waves
[18:35] <jgould> My phone is pissing me off
[19:13] <jgould> Mail doens't run today, does it?
[19:18] <Cheri703> don't think so
[19:22] <jgould> I remapped some keys on my keyboard last night.  Makes me happy.  At least the keys are in the proper spots now...
[19:30] <Cheri703> \o/
[19:30]  * Cheri703 cleaned her garage today...it's not DONE, but it's WAAAAAAY better
[19:34] <canthus13> Cheri703: Dude thinks that a stewardess has Sully....
[19:34] <Cheri703> heh
[20:39] <Unit193> jgould: I'm guessing I typed your name & email correct?