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| YoBoY | hi | 06:33 |
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| YoBoY | My laptop on natty is making fun of me. The desktop freeze very too often, sometimes I can go to a tty and restart gdm, sometines I only can use the power button. Can you guys give me some advices or help me report or find help on this bug ? | 06:35 |
| tjaalton | YoBoY: install the kernel from -proposed | 06:43 |
| YoBoY | hum... normally I'm already on proposed, I check | 06:44 |
| tjaalton | should be abi version 9 | 06:44 |
| YoBoY | I'm on 2.6.38-9-generic | 06:46 |
| tjaalton | ok then | 06:47 |
| YoBoY | (i'm on the 64bit edition btw) | 06:49 |
| tjaalton | doesn't matter | 06:50 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: You wanted to test llvm support on your r300-r500 chips? | 06:54 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: no, sis :P | 07:16 |
| tjaalton | i have some firegl card, but don't know which generation it is | 07:17 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Oooh, the ultimate in software-fallbacks! | 07:19 |
| RAOF | Anyway, it's in git. Or, if you prefer, I'm sure I've got some prebuilt packages I could throw at you :) | 07:20 |
| tjaalton | YoBoY: looks like that kernel doesn't have the fix I was after.. | 07:20 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: yeah, 32bit ones would be nice | 07:20 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: you wrote the patch for i915 that fixes a sh*tload of these natty crashers? | 07:21 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: By “crashes” you meen freezes? Yes, and I finally aligned all the knobs to get it into stable-queue. | 07:21 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: yeah that, cool | 07:22 |
| YoBoY | tjaalton: the fix will be available soon ? | 07:24 |
| tjaalton | YoBoY: well it's not even in -proposed yet | 07:24 |
| tjaalton | as it seems | 07:24 |
| RAOF | It's in the 2.6.39 kernel, but not yet in any natty kernel. | 07:25 |
| tjaalton | right | 07:25 |
| YoBoY | there is a bug I can subscribe to follow the progress ? | 07:35 |
| tjaalton | yes | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | but I don't have it handy :P | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | there's also a ppa with a test kernel | 07:37 |
| RAOF | bug #740126 | 07:37 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 740126 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "Disabling an output can cause vblank events to be missed (affects: 76) (dups: 10) (heat: 380)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740126 | 07:37 |
| soreau | I'm having trouble in natty where after coming out of a fullscreen window, compiz is completely b0rked. There are major issues flickering and it bounces between front and back buffers that are remnants of previous frames | 07:46 |
| soreau | on rv350 with xorg-edgers installed | 07:47 |
| soreau | restarting compiz or even X does not help, it's like the driver is stuck in b0rken mode | 07:48 |
| soreau | I'm thinking it's a kernel/radeon module bug or mesa but not sure which | 07:49 |
| RAOF | soreau: It's not inconceivable that it's an X bug, either. | 07:49 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Hm. It seems I don't have an i386 build handy; I'll build one now. | 07:50 |
| soreau | RAOF: Right but how do I know where to file a report? | 07:50 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: got beefy hw for it? I have a dualcore here, so could build it myself too | 07:50 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: No beefy hardware here; just a dualcore. | 07:51 |
| tjaalton | ok, so maybe I'll just pull from git and build it here | 07:51 |
| RAOF | soreau: I'm *pretty | 07:51 |
| RAOF | sure* it's reported on xorg-devel. | 07:51 |
| RAOF | Also, I'm pretty ;) | 07:51 |
| soreau | Alrighty then :) | 07:52 |
| soreau | RAOF: You mean it's a known issue? | 07:52 |
| soreau | I saw mareko say something on dri-devel that might be the issue | 07:52 |
| RAOF | I think it might be. | 07:52 |
| soreau | apparently it only affects r3xx and not r5xx | 07:53 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: I'll leave you to build it then. | 07:53 |
| soreau | RAOF: Possibly OT: Do you know if ubuntu will run X in wayland or even package wayland in the next cycle (or two)? | 07:55 |
| tjaalton | it's packaged | 07:55 |
| RAOF | Run X in wayland by default in the next two cycles? That's a big N O. | 07:56 |
| RAOF | Wayland is, however, packaged, and should be runnable under X and on the console for O. We'll get a new snapshot that doesn't require cairo-gl, so nvidia users won't be shafted. | 07:57 |
| soreau | RAOF: I'm kinda thinking that wayland would make it's debut in ubuntu by just running X inside it but perhaps next year, there will be enough stable toolkits that it will be able to run native stuffs | 07:57 |
| soreau | but I'm merely speculating | 07:57 |
| RAOF | Well, that's the plan. | 07:57 |
| RAOF | However, 12.04 is an LTS; we're not going to throw Wayland under X in the LTS :) | 07:58 |
| soreau | ah ok | 07:58 |
| soreau | Also I'm curious what nvidia is planning to do WRT wayland. AFAIK, they have no plans to provide support for it in their driver | 07:58 |
| soreau | Will they ever cough up hw specs you think? | 07:59 |
| RAOF | All this is discussed in one of the Wayland sessions at UDS; the notes are on the etherpad. | 07:59 |
| soreau | RAOF: Link me? | 07:59 |
| RAOF | (Well, not the nvidia discussion; that's a whole different kettle of awkward) | 07:59 |
| soreau | I'm more curious to know than anything | 08:00 |
| * soreau doesn't even use nvidia | 08:00 | |
| RAOF | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/desktop-o-xorg-wayland-something-or-other/ | 08:02 |
| soreau | heh, wayland-something-or-other | 08:02 |
| soreau | RAOF: thanks | 08:02 |
| soreau | cool | 08:05 |
| soreau | I'm surprised how quickly wayland is taking off and gaining a large amount of support by everyone (except nvidia) | 08:06 |
| soreau | I wonder how compiz will fare ;) | 08:06 |
| RAOF | Compiz is surprisingly X-agnostic. | 08:06 |
| soreau | Yea I know. And porting to gles is probably only a quarter of the work | 08:07 |
| soreau | Porting to EGL might require an entire rewrite | 08:07 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: hum, building this on natty is more work it seems, need to backport llvm and libdrm | 08:32 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Yeah, of course :). I thought you were oneiricing :) | 08:33 |
| tjaalton | not on the desktop, though I could build it on my laptop which is dualcore as well | 08:33 |
| tjaalton | booted it up | 08:33 |
| tjaalton | and I'll upgrade the other laptop too, no point in keeping it on natty | 08:37 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: ok, finally got it built, but I have a hook that tries to install them and that phase fails | 11:29 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: http://pastebin.com/7n1LDKez | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | probably nothing, just a symptom of how the hook installs stuff | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | it just runs 'dpkg -i $tmpdir/*.deb' | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | hmm right, since libgl1-mesa-swx11 conflicts with libgl1, which is provided by libgl1-mesa-glx | 11:44 |
| tjaalton | so nothing to worry about, I just need to disable the hook because the failure makes the pbuilder run fail, and so the debs are gone :) | 11:45 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Oh, ouwch! | 11:54 |
| tjaalton | so the thinkpad fan control doesn't work, and the kernel is reporting near-critical temperature.. | 12:14 |
| tjaalton | while building mesa | 12:14 |
| * RAOF fires off an i386 mesa build. | 12:16 | |
| tjaalton | it should finish soon though :) | 12:16 |
| tjaalton | my build | 12:16 |
| RAOF | If your laptop doesn't melt first! :) | 12:16 |
| RAOF | llvm takes a surprising amount of time to build. | 12:17 |
| tjaalton | placed a frozen bottle of water under the machine :) | 12:18 |
| RAOF | Or, rather, there's an annoying delta between build_time(on launchpad buildd) and build_time(on laptop) | 12:18 |
| soren | For the longest time, stuff was quicker to build locally than on the buildd's. | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | ooh, dpkg-shlibdeps.. soon finished | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | CPU temp down to 81 | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | if i'm reading /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal right | 12:23 |
| tjaalton | ok, so how do I determine if llvmpipe is used or not? | 14:23 |
| tjaalton | swrast_dri.so is loaded | 14:23 |
| Prf_Jakob | glxinfo | grep render | 14:23 |
| tjaalton | http://paste.ubuntu.com/614934 | 14:25 |
| Prf_Jakob | you are not running llvmpie. | 14:26 |
| tjaalton | right | 14:27 |
| Prf_Jakob | it should say "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe" or something like that | 14:27 |
| tjaalton | does it build a dri driver of its own? | 14:27 |
| tjaalton | maybe the packaging change wasn't complete | 14:28 |
| Prf_Jakob | dunno, upstream it was/is called swrastg_dri.so | 14:32 |
| tjaalton | yeah, probably just needs to be included in the package then :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | is #ubuntu-x tracking glew? | 17:45 |
| seb128 | is there any plan to update to 1.6? | 17:45 |
| seb128 | does anybody know if bug #711401 got investigated after the version revert to figure if the issue was a nux or glew one? | 17:46 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 711401 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "update to glew 1.5.7 broke unity (dup-of: 711396)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711401 | 17:46 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 711396 in nux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "segfault in nux::IOpenGLFrameBufferObject::Deactivate (affects: 42) (dups: 13) (heat: 178)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711396 | 17:46 |
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