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mandelmorning !08:28
mandelwow, we don't have wishlists in lp?08:36
faganmorning08:57
faganralsina: ping09:06
mandelfagan: morning ;)09:10
faganmorning mandel09:11
faganhow are you09:11
mandelfagan: ok, but I have been better09:11
mandelfagan: I've lost 4 kilos in 2 weeks09:11
mandeland I discovered there was another guy…. so not bad but could be better09:12
faganmandel: working out or just not eating right?09:12
mandelfagan: working out and not eating09:12
mandelI'm spending 3 hours per day in the gym09:12
faganmandel: wow thats not good09:12
mandelit helps, and I used to play rugby international level, so I can of like doing crazy workouts :)09:13
faganwell 3 hours in the gym isn't that bad if you were eating right09:13
faganI never work out but I walk alot09:13
mandelfagan: I used to pull 26 kg per arm, now I'm down to 19 which is not bad, but I should be able to do better09:14
mandeland I'm running 5 km before that and end with another 30 min of cardio, so is not that crazy09:14
faganmandel: hah I can pull about 5 kg09:14
mandelhehe is just genetics, nothing else, you should see my brother, I'm the small one09:15
faganyeah you were saying in london09:15
faganmandel: I refreshed my wardrobe on friday spent way too much09:16
mandelhaha09:16
faganwell 2 years with only buying jeans and getting free t-shirts is a bit bad09:17
mandelfagan: yeah, is not a great thing to do,  I don't shop that often but I do have nice clothes I do not wear in sprints ;)09:18
faganactually I might get my eyes tested today at lunch09:18
faganmandel: well im an irish man I like going out so I need some nice clothes for persuing the ladies09:20
mandelhahaha09:22
mandelralsina: ping?10:00
ralsinamandel: pong10:11
mandelralsina: can I merge the qt integration with the txnamedpipes code?10:12
ralsinamandel: I don't know, can yu? ;-)10:12
ralsinaI mean, does it work?10:12
mandelralsina: yes, perfectly10:12
* ralsina can do arm curls with his son. He10:13
ralsinaoops. He's 17.5kg ;-)10:13
mandelralsina: nevertheless I have implemented a similar thing for the ocntrol panel that can be used ion linux and windows, so that we can have nessita and alecu working with it10:13
faganralsina: mandel can lift him with 1 arm10:13
fagan:)10:13
ralsinafagan: arm curls are one-armed10:13
* ralsina may not have his exerise terms right ;-)10:14
faganhahaha10:14
ralsinamandel: that would be incredibly nice, and 24 hours ahead of schedule ;-)10:14
faganralsina: anyway so is there any task I should be doing this week. I still have to do my blog post for the moment but after that10:15
mandelralsina: hehe10:15
ralsinafagan: open a new ubuntu one account and try bindwood with that10:16
ralsinaor rather, talk to thisfred to see if he made any progress10:16
ralsinabut then again, that means 5 or 6 hours :-(10:16
faganralsina: ok cool will do that then when I finish my post10:17
ralsinafagan: cool10:18
ralsinamandel: if you are listening to Sabina, you are only allowed to listen to songs about drugs, booze and loose women.10:18
ralsinamandel: and the one that says "no perdí una hija, gané un cuarto de baño", which name I can't recall.10:19
mandelralsina: jaja no worries, by the way, dot feel bad about the situation anymore, there was another guy, so it was not all the windows port10:19
mandelralsina: and working out is working wonders with me :)10:19
ralsinamandel: cool, anyway, I will pay back the money I owe you in pints next week. You don't pay for beer in London now ;-)10:20
mandelralsina: hahaha10:20
ralsinahah! Nessita has problems with her code, and I can fix them! Happy day!10:21
* ralsina listens to "La del pirata cojo"10:22
mandelralsina: do you know how were alecu and nessita testing the current status of control panel?10:34
ralsinamandel: testing? No idea10:36
ralsinamandel: I have a status mail from nessita though10:36
ralsinaand now straight from Hafiz Mustafa (quality lohkum since 1864)... wifi auto-disconnects every 30 minutes :-(10:37
mandelralsina: I'd like to run the app to see what happens10:37
ralsinamandel: look in nessita's branches, they have testing instructions10:37
ralsinaBut mostly, set PYTHONPATH to include qtreactor, and run bin/control-panel-qt10:38
mandel./runtest and ./runttest-qt but those use u1trial which uses the qtreactor...10:38
mandelralsina: oh, that is better :)10:38
ralsinaholy damn, SecurID is not secure anymore. I have to go warn some people :-(10:40
mandelralsina: I'm done withit for windows and linux, I'll pass you the branch to take a look, it should do the trick in terms of integration with qt and the reactor although i little worse it would have no issues10:40
ralsinamandel: excellent10:40
mandelralsina: there is a bug in trunk in control panel...10:48
mandelsuper lame10:48
ralsina?10:48
mandelQLineEdit does not have setPlaceHolderText10:48
mandelralsina: is that right ^10:48
ralsinayes it does10:49
ralsinahttp://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qlineedit.html#placeholderText-prop10:49
ralsinabut lowercase H10:49
mandelralsina: I'm getting that error in M10:50
mandelmaybe I dont have the correct qt installed...10:50
mandelI'd be surprised10:50
faganplaceholder isn't that 2 words not 110:51
* fagan is confused slightly10:51
ralsinamandel: could you pastebin the error?10:51
ralsinait may be that it's missing from pyqt (has happened in the past) or that it's on a newer pyqt or newer qt10:52
ralsinait says "Qt >= 4.7"10:52
mandelralsina: I'm in 4.7.410:53
mandelweird10:53
mandelralsina: can you try lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/use_correct_reactor10:54
ralsinayou could try setProperty("placehoderText", "whatever")10:54
ralsinaif the problem is with PyQt that should work around it10:54
mandelralsina: is maybe my machine… I'd like you to try the branch and then look into weird erros10:54
ralsinamandel: cool. Windows?10:55
mandelralsina: linux10:55
ralsinaok, linux then10:55
mandelralsina: is the qt integration with a threaded selected reactor10:55
ralsinamandel: right, for nessita and alecu10:55
ralsinamandel: on it!10:55
mandelralsina: yes, it also adds the windows one, but I dont think it will work just yet because dbus is there10:55
mandelbut the internal implementation of the txnamedpipe.threaded reactor is the same as the selected reactor with the dff of the windows parts10:56
ralsinaI could get used to be a coding wandered, working around the world. Would be crazy expensive though.10:56
ralsinamandel: ok10:56
mandelralsina: I've been doing that last week between barna and madrid… trying to run away from the problem10:57
mandelcan ou let me know if it works, I'd like to give that to alecu to see if that solves the issues that he had with the QNetwork approach for the proxy10:57
ralsinamandel: well... running away works you know. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise ;-)10:57
ralsinamandel: branching right now10:58
mandelralsina: cool, le me know if it works, I'd like to go for a walk to get some fresh air10:58
ralsinajust run-tests or something else?10:58
mandelralsina: run tests and try to launch the qt version of it10:59
ralsinaok, I get a couple of errors on run-tests10:59
ralsinamandel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/614864/11:00
mandelweird11:01
mandelralsina: the tests should be using the qtreactor, not the cod eI added...11:01
ralsinaAnd an exception when running it (but I can see it anyway): http://paste.ubuntu.com/614865/11:01
mandelralsina: oh, that issue I though I fixed, issue to work it out11:01
mandelstupid q :P11:02
ralsinaok, doesn't look bad, a missing try?11:02
mandelralsina: oh, no it is bad… my code does that, the error is from twisted11:02
ralsinayikes11:02
ralsinaok, I say you take a walk ;-)11:03
mandelralsina: nah, I know how to fix it from our code :)11:04
ralsinaok, cool11:04
ralsinaI will now try to fix nessita's incredibly specific problems ("this letter needs to be 10% lighter and 1 point smaller") ;-)11:04
mandelralsina: althouhg tests do pass in my machine.. trial is a pain, I go for a walk, i it push and see if everything is ok11:05
mandelwith that we can hae alecu working this afternoon with qt :)11:05
ralsinayeah, breath a little11:05
* mandel walks11:05
ralsinayay!11:05
* fagan break then finish the post from last week then bindwood testing11:05
faganralsina: it looks like thisfred isnt on that bug its petronis11:53
faganug #78820611:54
faganbug #78820611:54
ubot4`Launchpad bug 788206 in ubuntuone-servers "Oauth authentication against couchdb.one.ubuntu.com fails (affects: 1) (heat: 164)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78820611:54
* ralsina looks11:55
ralsinafagan: that's not the bug from friday11:56
ralsinabut it may be the same thing11:56
ralsinayou can ask him, he should be around...11:57
faganit looks the same11:57
* fagan double checks before bothering 11:57
fagannope was wrong the traceback is different11:59
ralsinashort break, brb12:07
* mandel back12:31
faganOk my post is almost finished but I want to do that bindwood thing12:32
faganso ill be doing that for a while12:32
ralsinacool, go ahead.12:33
faganralsina: to deauth this computer I just need remote the keyring token and delete the config file right?12:34
ralsinayes12:34
ralsinaI think you can do *less* but that should be more than enough :-)12:35
faganralsina: well its a shame you cant logout :)12:35
faganthat would solve it for me12:36
ralsinafagan: it's in the todo list somewhere ;-)12:36
faganralsina: id say its a little down on that list :D12:36
ralsinafagan: yeah12:36
ralsinaright now the todo list has like one thing that matters for us12:37
faganralsina: windows12:38
fagan?12:38
ralsinayep12:38
* fagan is good at guessing 12:38
fagan:D12:38
faganralsina: oooh now I get what you meant I could have just went into the cp and removed the computer12:40
ralsinafagan: yeah, but I was not about to test it ;-)12:42
faganralsina: well I got it anyway the long way12:42
ralsinamandel must behalf way back to barcelona already. Long walk!12:44
mandelralsina: I was here I while ago, I just forgot to say it :)12:44
ralsinahahaha12:45
ralsinamandel: nessita's branches don't fail for me like they do for you12:45
mandelralsina: are u i N?12:45
ralsinaI only get a DBUS error she already knows about. So you may have something weird on your linux12:45
ralsinamandel: yes N12:45
mandelstrange.. is she working today?12:45
ralsinayou in O?12:45
ralsinanope, she'll be back tomorrow12:46
mandelI'll try them in N but I'd also like to know if they have issues in M, are we backporting this to M at some point?12:46
mandelralsina: na, M to scared to upgrade :)12:46
ralsinachicken! ;-)12:46
ralsinaprobably old pyqt, what do you have?12:46
ralsinanatty is on 4.8.2 or so12:47
faganooooh ive gotten 2 bugs12:54
fagan1 for definite 1 might be just in 11.1012:54
faganBug #79017612:55
ubot4`Launchpad bug 790176 in ubuntuone-client "Icon in the create/sign in page looks bad (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79017612:55
faganthe second im just fiddling to see if its actually an isse12:56
fagan*issue12:56
faganralsina: my account was created and I can login to the u1 website but the desktop client isn't letting me in12:58
ralsinahow?12:58
faganthe setup didnt finish it was stuck on the spinner thing12:58
faganso I quit out and made sure the account was created and went to the website to check it out12:59
faganso it let me in12:59
faganand then I tried to login on the desktop and it gives an error12:59
faganill have to get a screen of it12:59
ralsinafagan: you may have to make syncdaemon die13:00
faganooooh it just synced up :)13:01
faganthats funny13:01
ralsinamandel: do you think you will have stuff for review in the next 30 minutes or so? If not, I will take a long break and come back in 4 hours or so to spend some time with alecu13:02
faganralsina: whats the process name for the syncdaemon?13:02
ralsinafagan: it has syncdaemon in it ;-)13:02
faganralsina: I cant find it :D13:03
ralsinafagan: then it's not running13:03
faganralsina: then how did it sync13:03
ralsinafagan: beats me!13:04
faganmaybe I just missed it or something13:04
ralsinatry u1sdtool -s13:04
faganwow there are a few desktop couch processes running13:04
ralsinafagan: may be a good idea to logout and back in13:05
faganahhhh found it13:05
mandelralsina: take the break, I have to have lunch etc...13:05
ralsinamandel: ok then13:05
faganI killed couchdb and that got everything out of the way13:06
ralsinafagan: the usecase of "I am now someone else" is probably not all that well tested13:06
faganralsina: yeah I think that was talked about recently I dont remember where13:07
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faganI just remember there were some ar people saying it13:08
fagan:D13:08
faganI know what went wrong13:08
faganok didnt work13:08
faganwow this is harder than I though13:09
fagan*thought13:09
* fagan brb13:09
ralsinaok, I'll be back! http://picplz.com/xLLq13:10
faganhttp://ubuntuone.com/p/wRi/13:14
faganOooh I have a bug in the website kinda13:15
faganill file it after lunch13:16
faganand after I go get my eyes tested13:16
voidspaceralsina: ping13:20
faganvoidspace: he is on break at the moment13:21
voidspacefagan: thanks - I'll talk to him on his return, hopefully he'll see the ping...13:22
faganvoidspace: yeah he will be back in a few minutes we have a meeting in 40 mins ish13:23
voidspacefagan: ok, thanks13:23
faganso you should pick him up then13:23
voidspacefagan: I only need a couple of minutes of his time13:23
faganvoidspace: np13:23
faganvoidspace: is it anything I can help with?13:23
faganor is it something for him in particular13:24
voidspacefagan: it's about an opening in the ubuntu one team for which ralsina is the hiring manager13:24
voidspacefagan: so him specifically I think13:24
faganvoidspace: well him or Chipaca13:24
voidspacefagan: Chipaca is off today I think - uk holiday13:25
fagan(Id say)13:25
fagannot an irish holiday though :(13:25
voidspace:-(13:25
voidspaceI have an ex-colleague with both WIndows and Mac client-side development experience (and great python skills) who is looking for a job - and I thought the ubuntu one team might be a good fit13:26
voidspacehe is currently doing windows client dev and says he is bored in his current job - I'm hoping it's not *because* of the windows part that he is bored...13:27
faganvoidspace: does he know your asking for him? (out of interest)13:27
voidspacefagan: he emailed me about looking for a job with canonical13:27
voidspacefagan: but he didn't mention anything about windows in particular13:28
faganvoidspace: ah ok then yeah we are looking for another windows engineer13:28
voidspacefagan: yeah, I saw the opening (and beuno confirmed it was still open) - but I'd like to hook him up directly as every time I have referred good people to canonical their cvs have dissapeared in our system without trace13:29
faganvoidspace: well the hr system we have is pretty good I hear13:29
faganvoidspace: but highlighting is awesome :)13:29
voidspacefagan: *very* good at swallowing cvs...13:29
faganvoidspace: well nothing's better than talking to someone13:30
voidspacefagan: yeah, all I'm doing is introducing him - whether he's a good fit / interested (etc) is between you guys and him :-)13:30
faganvoidspace: yeah13:30
voidspacefagan: although I'll happily provide a reference13:30
voidspacefagan: anyway, thanks13:30
faganvoidspace: np a half hour he should be back and you can sort it out13:31
faganvoidspace: or if your in a hurry you can email him13:31
voidspacefagan: I may just craft an email to him, thanks13:31
faganvoidspace: cool13:32
alecuhello}13:42
faganhey alecu13:43
mandelalecu: ping13:59
alecuhello mandel13:59
* alecu is trying to get <TAB> to autocomplete hello.13:59
alecuthat's how sleepy I am today.13:59
mandelalecu: I'm close to finish with the Qt + reactor code for windows and linux14:00
mandelin a while I might ask you to give it a go14:00
alecuwoohoo!14:00
mandelme14:00
faganalecu: did you get the environment set up?14:00
faganme14:00
alecufagan, no, I spent the afternoon working on the webservice client, so not yet.14:00
alecume14:02
faganalecu: ping if you need help when ever you are doing it14:02
faganralsina, thisfred, dobey?14:03
fagannessita isnt around by the looks of it14:03
thisfrednot me: memorial day ;)14:03
faganthisfred: ah ok14:03
thisfredsame for dobey14:03
faganso just ralsina although we could probably move anyway14:04
faganmandel: go14:04
mandelDONE: Most of the Qt + reactor code for windows and linux in the control panel. Reviews. Windows bug triagging.14:04
mandelTODO: Fix bugs with the above. There is a small issue with an empty q.14:04
mandelBLOCKED: not more than expected.14:04
alecunessita was taking the day off. ralsina is probably travelling.14:04
mandelfagan: go14:04
faganDONE14:04
fagan* Blog post14:04
fagan* tried to get a second u1 account to check the bindwood issue on a fresh install14:04
faganTODO14:04
fagan* Actually test out bindwood14:04
fagan* publish and spell check..etc the post14:04
faganBlocked14:05
fagan* nope14:05
faganalecu: go14:05
alecuDONE: a branch that uses twisted.web.client to call the webservice, and updates profile info14:05
alecuTODO: merge with mandel reactor;14:05
alecuBLOCKED: no14:05
faganok gtg for a little bit be back in a while14:06
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* fagan back ish (eating subway <3)14:53
faganralsina: when you get back could you ping me15:25
faganwant a second opinion on why the sso wont let me login15:25
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* mandel goes to the vet17:26
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* alecu has probably figured out the solution to the qt+dbus issue in dev-tools19:40
voidspaceralsina: ping20:00
faganvoidspace: he didnt come back after lunch20:02
voidspacefagan: haha20:02
faganprobably ran out of internets20:02
voidspacefagan: I think I did see a tweet about his home wifi going down20:03
voidspacefagan: oh well20:03
voidspacefagan: my ex-colleague is interested in the position20:03
voidspacefagan: so he's applying online and will email me his cv - I'll forward it to ralsina20:03
voidspacefagan: I wanted to give him a heads-up but I can do that in the covering email I guess20:03
voidspacefagan: we have an opening in our team as well, so we can fight it out over him... :-)20:04
faganvoidspace: I can say it to him tomorrow20:04
voidspacefagan: thanks20:05
faganvoidspace: from what you said he would fit in nicely on the team20:06
voidspacefagan: he has a great skill set for client side development, that's for sure20:06
faganvoidspace: well thats a lot of what we are doing so that would come in handy :)20:07
voidspaceyep20:07
voidspacefinding devs with good windows experience in the open source world can be hard20:07
voidspacehe's also fiendishly clever20:07
voidspacebrilliant algorithms man20:07
faganvoidspace: well there are a few but windows mac and linux is a bit of a goldmine20:07
faganfor our team especially20:08
voidspacehe has windows and mac (he's done game development on the mac) but not sure about his linux experience - beyond some web dev deployed on linux servers20:08
voidspacebut I haven't seen his cv yet20:08
faganvoidspace: well if you can develop with python you can figure it out20:08
voidspaceyeah20:09
* fagan doesnt have a lot of experince in anything :-/20:09
voidspace:-)20:09
faganbut its mildly expected in my case :)20:09
voidspacetoo broad an experience usually means shallow20:10
voidspacemy experience is certainly "restricted to certain areas"...20:10
faganvoidspace: well I have a good few languages but not a lot with apis or development practices..etc so I have a little bit of catching up20:11
faganvoidspace: so im shallow but eager :D20:12
voidspace"a good few languages", that beats me...20:12
faganvoidspace: well ive used more or less every language in major use20:12
voidspacehehe, impressive20:12
voidspaceI've only done commercial dev in Python and C# (with a smattering of Javascript of course)20:12
faganvoidspace: but only C++ java and python in that order in terms of being good at the languages20:12
voidspaceright20:13
faganI did a little C# but not of my own free will20:13
voidspaceheh, C# is nice - nicer than the bit of Java I've done anyway20:13
voidspacebut it's pretty much only useful on Windows...20:13
faganvoidspace: well mono....20:13
voidspacefagan: well, exactly...20:14
faganvoidspace: but still if I picked the language that suits how my brain works it would be ada although I never really had a big chance to use it and its not in big production except in power plants and stuff20:15
voidspaceoh right20:15
voidspacemy dad did a fair bit of Ada, back in the day...20:15
faganwell its as old as C20:16
voidspaceright20:16
faganbut still I still think syntax wise I like it20:16
voidspacemy dad worked on control systems for chemical plants20:16
faganyeah thats the main use for it20:17
faganbecause its pretty strict20:17
voidspaceright, I need to push out this new release of mock20:17
fagannice ill chase that up for you tomorrow when ralsina is back20:17
voidspacefagan: cool, thanks20:18
faganvoidspace: n20:18
fagan*np20:18
dobey*blink*20:21
fagandobey: thought it was your day off20:21
dobeyit is20:22
dobeyalecu: we'll get that fix up tomorrow i hope. i have a branch that's nearly there, but having some little issues with twisted interaction in it :-/20:24
dobeyanyway, i am back off now20:25
alecudobey, great, thanks.20:26
* alecu will be away for a few hours.20:27
alecubbl20:27
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