| radjahzik | in cant use the fonction alt tab | 01:33 |
|---|---|---|
| holstein | radjahzik: control+atl+tab? | 01:34 |
| holstein | what are you trying to do? | 01:34 |
| radjahzik | to use alt tab or ctrol alt tab with compiz | 01:35 |
| radjahzik | on | 01:35 |
| holstein | sure | 01:36 |
| holstein | but, what are you trying to do? | 01:36 |
| radjahzik | why this question ? | 01:36 |
| holstein | radjahzik: because i dont know what you are trying to do | 01:36 |
| radjahzik | to select windows open | 01:36 |
| holstein | i mean, if you trying to hit the alt+tab keys | 01:37 |
| holstein | just hit em | 01:37 |
| radjahzik | mad ealt tab | 01:37 |
| holstein | if you want them to do something | 01:37 |
| holstein | then tell me what you want them to do | 01:37 |
| holstein | and i can help with that :) | 01:37 |
| radjahzik | ^^ | 01:37 |
| holstein | radjahzik: alt+tab works with or without compiz | 01:38 |
| radjahzik | but it work just without compiz to me | 01:38 |
| radjahzik | i have uninstall compiz and install | 01:39 |
| holstein | radjahzik: maybe you dont have compiz running | 01:39 |
| radjahzik | i have compiz fusion icon to pass metacity to compiz | 01:39 |
| holstein | that doesnt mean its running | 01:40 |
| holstein | and that doesnt mean your graphics card supports 3d in linux | 01:40 |
| radjahzik | yes | 01:40 |
| radjahzik | but no | 01:40 |
| holstein | i would start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion | 01:41 |
| holstein | radjahzik: one easy check is, hit the superkey+e | 01:43 |
| holstein | if you see a fancy graphic, then compiz is running | 01:43 |
| radjahzik | e | 01:43 |
| radjahzik | eeeee | 01:43 |
| radjahzik | nothing | 01:43 |
| holstein | right | 01:44 |
| holstein | so, compiz is not running | 01:44 |
| radjahzik | ??? | 01:44 |
| holstein | compiz/ | 01:44 |
| radjahzik | ??, i have the cube | 01:44 |
| radjahzik | ??? $ | 01:44 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yeah? | 01:44 |
| holstein | well, you probably messed with the shortcuts then | 01:44 |
| radjahzik | why super key +e | 01:44 |
| holstein | the default shortcut keys | 01:44 |
| holstein | super+e should be expo | 01:45 |
| holstein | by default | 01:45 |
| radjahzik | yes | 01:45 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i mean, mess with them all you want | 01:45 |
| holstein | its just, when you wonder why alt+tab doesnt work | 01:45 |
| holstein | thats why* | 01:45 |
| radjahzik | you are realy cool | 01:45 |
| holstein | lol | 01:45 |
| holstein | radjahzik: you are :) | 01:45 |
| radjahzik | why you help me | 01:45 |
| radjahzik | its your job ? | 01:46 |
| holstein | why do i help you? | 01:46 |
| holstein | radjahzik: nah | 01:46 |
| holstein | nobody here gets paid to support ubuntustudio | 01:46 |
| radjahzik | so realy cool | 01:46 |
| holstein | its my way of giving back to the community that im passionate about | 01:46 |
| radjahzik | the solution : dont use compiz | 01:47 |
| radjahzik | :) | 01:47 |
| holstein | radjahzik: thats one way ;) | 01:47 |
| radjahzik | but the help come better for the other after | 01:47 |
| radjahzik | : | 01:47 |
| radjahzik | i can deselect him | 01:48 |
| radjahzik | and ... | 01:48 |
| radjahzik | i have more problem with samba and share files | 01:48 |
| radjahzik | i use samba in a clic | 01:48 |
| radjahzik | i clic right on a files and script rw | 01:49 |
| holstein | cool | 01:49 |
| radjahzik | that gone share to the other linux | 01:49 |
| holstein | samba can be challenging | 01:49 |
| holstein | good for you | 01:49 |
| radjahzik | but when a restart the other linux dont see me , im obliged to share again after a rebooting ??? | 01:50 |
| radjahzik | is it normal ? | 01:50 |
| holstein | you shouldnt have to do that | 01:51 |
| holstein | radjahzik: you might want to find a loco channel | 01:51 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/ | 01:51 |
| holstein | you are more than welcome to hang out here and ask questions | 01:51 |
| holstein | but, for samba and compiz | 01:52 |
| holstein | you can probably get more help from one of the less specific avenues | 01:52 |
| holstein | *i gave up on samba | 01:52 |
| holstein | i decided to make my windows boxes talk to linux, instead of the other way around | 01:53 |
| holstein | then, i ditched the windows boxes | 01:53 |
| holstein | :) | 01:53 |
| radjahzik | why go to loco | 01:54 |
| radjahzik | just to find help in french ? | 01:54 |
| holstein | radjahzik: that too | 01:54 |
| holstein | i thought you might get more help with samba | 01:54 |
| holstein | or #ubuntu-beginners | 01:54 |
| radjahzik | the guy o ubuntu.fr speak but no help realy | 01:55 |
| holstein | this is really ubuntustudio specific, so we dont deal much with samba | 01:55 |
| radjahzik | ?? !!!! | 01:55 |
| holstein | radjahzik: not that im trying to get rid of you :) | 01:55 |
| holstein | im just trying to get you help | 01:55 |
| radjahzik | for jackd its realy cool | 01:56 |
| radjahzik | all is ok | 01:56 |
| holstein | radjahzik: thats great | 01:56 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i think there are some GUI samba tools | 01:56 |
| radjahzik | i have test with Qtractor and hydrogen* | 01:56 |
| radjahzik | samba is install | 01:57 |
| holstein | i would probably check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Samba_File_Sharing | 01:57 |
| radjahzik | i have to much problem with this ubuntustudio 11 | 02:01 |
| radjahzik | i think change it | 02:01 |
| holstein | i use 10.04 with KXstudio ppa's added | 02:01 |
| radjahzik | i have x64 cpuu | 02:02 |
| holstein | yup, 64bit | 02:02 |
| holstein | *my studio machine | 02:02 |
| radjahzik | i have kxstudio11 | 02:02 |
| holstein | i have a 64bit test laptop too | 02:02 |
| holstein | i have 10.10 and 11.04 installs | 02:02 |
| radjahzik | i have test on 32b all | 02:03 |
| holstein | and i'll have ubuntustudio 11.10 soon | 02:03 |
| radjahzik | but for my 64 | 02:03 |
| holstein | radjahzik: not much reason to worry about runnint 64bit now | 02:03 |
| holstein | flash and all that works fine (like i care about flash on my studio box) | 02:03 |
| radjahzik | i have install a 32b | 02:03 |
| radjahzik | a x32 on a x64computer | 02:04 |
| holstein | sure | 02:04 |
| radjahzik | i have 4Go ram | 02:04 |
| holstein | yup, i had 3gb, but i recently upgraded | 02:04 |
| radjahzik | and you have install a x32 on a x64 hardware too ? | 02:04 |
| holstein | i went for the 64bit install | 02:05 |
| holstein | i have several 32bit 10.04 installs as well though | 02:05 |
| radjahzik | where you fin KXstudio ppa's | 02:06 |
| radjahzik | you have not install a ubuntu studio ? | 02:07 |
| holstein | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories | 02:07 |
| radjahzik | just install ubuntu10.04 | 02:07 |
| holstein | i have a 10.04 install with falks PPA's added from kxstudio | 02:07 |
| radjahzik | wich ppa's there are a lote of verion | 02:08 |
| radjahzik | its lucid | 02:08 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yup, read them carefully | 02:08 |
| holstein | radjahzik: 10.04 = lucid | 02:09 |
| radjahzik | kernel 2638 | 02:09 |
| holstein | however, those PPA's support 10.04 10.10 11.04 and 11.10 | 02:09 |
| holstein | i have only used them in 10.04 though | 02:09 |
| radjahzik | linux-realtime-33 2.6.33-29.1+all1~lucid1 | 02:10 |
| holstein | my testing installs of 10.10 and 11.04 are just ubuntustudio | 02:10 |
| holstein | radjahzik: yup, thats one of the -realtime kernels | 02:10 |
| holstein | again, not trivial | 02:10 |
| radjahzik | linux-meta-realtime 2.6.33.29.1+all1~lucid1 | 02:10 |
| holstein | right, thats the -realtime kernel | 02:11 |
| holstein | i still need it for my firewire device | 02:11 |
| holstein | for me, i have a USB device that actually performs better with a -generic kernel | 02:11 |
| radjahzik | alsa-firmware 1.0.20-0medibuntu4.2+rebuild1~lucid1 | 02:11 |
| holstein | really just depends | 02:11 |
| radjahzik | linux-lowlatency 2.6.38-8.42+all1~lucid1 | 02:12 |
| radjahzik | but if i take a ubuntusutdio 10.04 is not lts | 02:13 |
| holstein | 10.04 is the LTS | 02:14 |
| holstein | lucid = 10.04 = the latest ubuntu LTS version | 02:14 |
| holstein | 12.04 should be the next | 02:14 |
| radjahzik | why dont install kxstudio | 02:15 |
| holstein | radjahzik: try it | 02:15 |
| holstein | i dont like KDE | 02:15 |
| radjahzik | i have try soon | 02:15 |
| holstein | and, with kxstudio, jack starts at login, and pulse is routed through jack | 02:16 |
| holstein | i dont need or want that | 02:16 |
| holstein | but, falk is great, and KXstudio is awesome | 02:16 |
| holstein | radjahzik: its a live CD, the kxstudio.iso | 02:16 |
| radjahzik | live dvd 32bits | 02:16 |
| radjahzik | 10.04.3 | 02:17 |
| radjahzik | i was don't like it too | 02:17 |
| radjahzik | test not realy good | 02:17 |
| holstein | well, KDE is just not for me | 02:18 |
| radjahzik | me too | 02:18 |
| radjahzik | i like mint 9 | 02:18 |
| radjahzik | stable | 02:18 |
| radjahzik | lts | 02:18 |
| holstein | thats the 10.04 one right? | 02:18 |
| holstein | yeah, thats right | 02:19 |
| radjahzik | one right ? | 02:19 |
| holstein | thats based on ubuntu 10.04's LTS | 02:19 |
| holstein | http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_isadora.php | 02:19 |
| radjahzik | yes + mint menu very nice | 02:20 |
| holstein | eh | 02:20 |
| holstein | i think its a bit much | 02:20 |
| holstein | but, it looks great | 02:20 |
| radjahzik | bit much | 02:20 |
| radjahzik | translate me i think its a bit much | 02:21 |
| holstein | *the mint menu | 02:21 |
| holstein | i think its a bit too heavy looking | 02:21 |
| holstein | too much | 02:21 |
| radjahzik | ok | 02:21 |
| holstein | again, it looks great though | 02:21 |
| radjahzik | if i want add jackd and else on it | 02:22 |
| holstein | radjahzik: mint uses the ubuntu repositories | 02:23 |
| holstein | so, you just add what you want | 02:23 |
| holstein | and it should be fine | 02:23 |
| radjahzik | i add thje ppa's kxstudio | 02:23 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio | 02:23 |
| holstein | for example* | 02:23 |
| holstein | radjahzik: i havent tried falks PPA's with mint | 02:23 |
| holstein | something might break | 02:23 |
| holstein | but, as long as you know how to purge PPA's, try it | 02:23 |
| radjahzik | waoo the adventure for all | 02:24 |
| radjahzik | 02:24 | |
| holstein | 02:24 | |
| radjahzik | take care holstein | 02:25 |
| holstein | radjahzik: sure :) | 02:25 |
| radjahzik | i go back tomorrow | 02:25 |
| holstein | you too | 02:25 |
| holstein | i'll be here | 02:25 |
| radjahzik | after 1 week install lunix ubunru studio kxstudio, mint, etc | 02:25 |
| holstein | thats the way to do it | 02:26 |
| radjahzik | i was pass 1 week | 02:26 |
| holstein | we call it 'distro-hopping' | 02:26 |
| radjahzik | yes | 02:26 |
| holstein | check out a bunch of them, and see what you like | 02:26 |
| radjahzik | i have just a ntfs to coserve | 02:27 |
| radjahzik | conserve | 02:27 |
| radjahzik | use carefull the install to do not erase my little history | 02:27 |
| radjahzik | lol | 02:27 |
| radjahzik | i prefer lucid version gnome and the rest ... | 02:28 |
| radjahzik | bye | 02:28 |
| holstein | radjahzik: o/ | 02:28 |
| radjahzik | o/ | 02:28 |
| radjahzik | ??? | 02:28 |
| radjahzik | a+ | 02:28 |
| holstein | o/ is me waving bye :) | 02:29 |
| radjahzik | in french a+ is at soon | 02:29 |
| ubstud | hi, I've tried installing UbuntuStudio versions 8~11 in a VirtualBox but VBox guest additions do not compile in UbuntuStudio, is there a solution? | 05:22 |
| ubstud | Plain Vanilla Ubuntu 8-10 works fine though, guest additions install properly | 05:23 |
| jerry_l | hi room. | 07:17 |
| arn | bonjour, je viens d'installer unbuntu 10.04 je souhaite ajouter un package studio | 19:31 |
| arn | que me conseillez vous? | 19:31 |
| holstein | arn: hello | 19:32 |
| arn | holstein : | 19:32 |
| arn | hello | 19:32 |
| holstein | you speak english? | 19:32 |
| arn | you know me | 19:32 |
| holstein | OH | 19:32 |
| holstein | ok :) | 19:32 |
| arn | your help was fine | 19:32 |
| holstein | welcome back | 19:33 |
| arn | i have find my solution to ntfs share | 19:33 |
| arn | simply use the pakage ntfs-config | 19:33 |
| holstein | cool, that was easy | 19:33 |
| arn | so yesteday you talk to me about your add of kx studio | 19:33 |
| holstein | right | 19:34 |
| arn | yes samba and ntfs-config | 19:34 |
| holstein | http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories | 19:34 |
| arn | can you give me your source ? please | 19:34 |
| arn | yes realy fine | 19:34 |
| holstein | those are the PPA's | 19:34 |
| holstein | its really up to you which ones you want to add | 19:34 |
| holstein | for example, the JACK1 ppa | 19:35 |
| holstein | that forces JACK1 instead of JACK2 | 19:35 |
| holstein | so, you probably *dont* want that one | 19:35 |
| arn | ok what link i click to start | 19:36 |
| holstein | actually, i would say, only add them if you need them | 19:36 |
| holstein | arn: ?? | 19:36 |
| holstein | you would add the PPA's | 19:36 |
| holstein | i do it in the terminal | 19:36 |
| holstein | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kxstudio-team/ppa | 19:36 |
| holstein | ^ for example | 19:36 |
| arn | yes it's better | 19:36 |
| holstein | same thing with the kernel one if you want the kernels | 19:36 |
| arn | cool i type this one and finish ? | 19:37 |
| holstein | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kxstudio-team/kernel | 19:37 |
| holstein | arn: this command will add the PPA | 19:37 |
| holstein | arn: again, i would only add them *if* you need tem | 19:37 |
| holstein | them* | 19:37 |
| holstein | dont think of them as 'better' | 19:37 |
| holstein | think of them as newer | 19:37 |
| holstein | also, falk adds some extra packages that we dont have | 19:38 |
| arn | i need all package to be sure its gone with jack and the rest | 19:38 |
| holstein | arn: thats what im saying | 19:38 |
| holstein | you done *need* these | 19:38 |
| holstein | you should only get them if you *want* them | 19:38 |
| arn | Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv A809F6C307B583133B3891B287538FEDDF8063EB gpg: requête de la clé DF8063EB du serveur hkp keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: clé DF8063EB: clé publique « Launchpad PPA for KXStudio Team | 19:39 |
| arn | is it normal ? | 19:39 |
| holstein | normal? | 19:39 |
| holstein | thats what the command did | 19:40 |
| arn | the result of sudo yes | 19:40 |
| holstein | sudo apt-add-repository * | 19:40 |
| holstein | arn: so now | 19:40 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 19:40 |
| holstein | then, if you want to update to falks versions of the pacakges | 19:41 |
| holstein | *which will take some time | 19:41 |
| holstein | run | 19:41 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:41 |
| arn | end | 19:42 |
| holstein | arn: personally, i would wait | 19:42 |
| holstein | i would wait til you are comfortable and familiar with what PPA's are, and what they do | 19:43 |
| holstein | and how to purge them, if needed | 19:43 |
| holstein | falks PPA's are quite stable though* | 19:43 |
| arn | how can i understand that and use it ? | 19:44 |
| holstein | arn: use what? | 19:44 |
| holstein | the PPA? | 19:44 |
| arn | i see nothing | 19:44 |
| holstein | you added it | 19:44 |
| holstein | arn: ? | 19:44 |
| holstein | you wont see anything | 19:44 |
| holstein | for example | 19:44 |
| holstein | JACK is at a certain version | 19:44 |
| arn | its change the library package ? | 19:44 |
| holstein | when you add falks PPA | 19:44 |
| holstein | *if* he has a newer verion of JACK | 19:44 |
| holstein | when you run | 19:45 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 19:45 |
| holstein | that updates the this of availalbe packages | 19:45 |
| holstein | and then | 19:45 |
| arn | kool | 19:45 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:45 |
| holstein | that will upgrade your verion of JACK to his | 19:45 |
| holstein | *as well as other pacakges that falk has packed that are newer | 19:45 |
| holstein | arn: theres nothing to see | 19:45 |
| arn | i have nothing install so i can install a pack of sound , iwill sure after that will the newest version , right ? | 19:46 |
| holstein | arn: pack of sound? | 19:46 |
| holstein | arn: not the newest version | 19:47 |
| holstein | the newest available version | 19:47 |
| holstein | from your PPA | 19:47 |
| holstein | *from your sources | 19:48 |
| arn | pack of soft (jackd, audur, so i search to install all | 19:48 |
| holstein | arn: theres a metapackage | 19:48 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio | 19:48 |
| arn | if i search ubuntustudio au | 19:48 |
| arn | yes | 19:48 |
| holstein | arn: just open synaptic | 19:48 |
| holstein | and search ubuntustudio | 19:48 |
| holstein | and you'll see them | 19:48 |
| holstein | *you *dont* need them all | 19:48 |
| holstein | or any of them for that matter | 19:48 |
| holstein | you can just install what you want | 19:48 |
| holstein | i usually get the 2 audio ones | 19:48 |
| arn | ok : so the update ppa has afect the version | 19:48 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio and ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 19:49 |
| holstein | arn: the PPA effects your sources in general | 19:49 |
| holstein | ALL of your sources | 19:49 |
| holstein | IF falk has a newer version | 19:49 |
| holstein | then, you'll get falks version | 19:49 |
| arn | and to have realtime kernel | 19:49 |
| holstein | if not, then you'll keep the other one | 19:49 |
| holstein | arn: do you need the -realtime kernel? | 19:49 |
| arn | its in tu ubuntu package ? | 19:50 |
| holstein | *i urger you to try the -generic | 19:50 |
| holstein | then | 19:50 |
| holstein | try the -lowlatency | 19:50 |
| holstein | then, if you still need it | 19:50 |
| holstein | try the -realtime | 19:50 |
| arn | with jackd its possible to use no realtime ? | 19:50 |
| holstein | arn: ubuntu does not have a -realtime or -lowlatency kernel in the default repos | 19:50 |
| holstein | arn: JACK will run just fine with the -generic kernel | 19:51 |
| holstein | arn: thats why i say 'try it first' | 19:51 |
| arn | ok i have never try it , so i must be try | 19:51 |
| holstein | arn: debian doesnt even support a -realtime kernel anymore | 19:51 |
| holstein | FOR EXAMPLE http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel | 19:52 |
| holstein | arn: the same is true of ubuntu | 19:52 |
| holstein | we will not have/need a -realtime kernel much longer | 19:52 |
| holstein | BUT, if you do find that you need it | 19:52 |
| holstein | you can add falks PPA with the command i linked above | 19:53 |
| holstein | sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kxstudio-team/kernel | 19:53 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 19:53 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install linux-realtime | 19:53 |
| holstein | then, you'll need to edit your grub setup in order to boot it | 19:54 |
| holstein | !grub | 19:54 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 19:54 |
| holstein | then, in a terminal, run | 19:54 |
| holstein | uname -a | 19:54 |
| holstein | and that will tell you what kernel you are running | 19:54 |
| holstein | arn: OR, as i suggested, just take your time, and add things as you need them | 19:54 |
| holstein | add a package or 2 | 19:54 |
| holstein | and learn how to use them | 19:54 |
| holstein | add falks ppa to update | 19:54 |
| holstein | then, add the -realtime kernel later if needed | 19:55 |
| holstein | otherwise, *all* of these steps are quite time consuming | 19:55 |
| arn | yes i have made a file .txt "holdstein realtime "" :) | 19:56 |
| holstein | arn: :) | 19:56 |
| arn | on my doc | 19:56 |
| holstein | yeah, save them for later | 19:56 |
| holstein | take it one step at a time | 19:56 |
| holstein | otherwise, it can be quite overwhelming | 19:56 |
| arn | its made | 19:56 |
| arn | so in the first time i must be learn how install quickly, im not finish :) | 19:57 |
| arn | if that coll i made some backup | 19:58 |
| arn | i have install like your "conseil" ubuntu 10.04 lts | 19:58 |
| arn | and im realy fine | 19:58 |
| holstein | yeah, i find it more stable | 19:59 |
| arn | i have test a turkish kde x64 but nodriver ? | 19:59 |
| holstein | graphics driver? | 19:59 |
| arn | Pardus distro " just print driver | 19:59 |
| holstein | yeah, who knows | 20:00 |
| holstein | hardware is so cheap now | 20:00 |
| holstein | just buy a printer next time you need ink | 20:00 |
| arn | no driver for the old print in x64 , but all was to much menu ""kde" but very nice install | 20:00 |
| holstein | in the US, thats about the same price :/ | 20:00 |
| holstein | ink or a new printer | 20:00 |
| arn | yes that why i conserve my old ip1600 with add ink | 20:01 |
| arn | same in france | 20:01 |
| arn | one ink = pirnt | 20:01 |
| arn | cut talk | 20:02 |
| arn | :) | 20:02 |
| arn | i'm not alone on this chat sorry bye | 20:04 |
| holstein | arn: a+ | 20:04 |
| arn | o/ | 20:04 |
| arno__ | holstein : ? | 20:26 |
| holstein | arno__: o/ | 20:27 |
| holstein | whats up? | 20:27 |
| arno__ | i m just test jackd i have start : 1024 /2 or 3 and all was right but it stop and i must reboot | 20:27 |
| holstein | yeah, you'll need to trouble shoot | 20:28 |
| holstein | make sure you are in the audio group | 20:28 |
| holstein | try | 20:28 |
| holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 20:28 |
| holstein | to troubleshoot permissions* | 20:28 |
| arno__ | so i decided to start agian and yet with the same setup it start and close it self | 20:28 |
| holstein | sudo adduser YOU audio | 20:28 |
| arno__ | all 2 seconde | 20:29 |
| holstein | arno__: right | 20:29 |
| holstein | you just have to trouble shoot it | 20:29 |
| holstein | try the internal sound card with JACK running as root *temporarily | 20:29 |
| arno__ | so yet another after type gksudo qjackctl no message buffer overruns JACK compiled with System V SHM support. loading driver .. apparent rate = 44100 creating alsa driver ... hw:0,0|hw:2|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit control device hw:0 the playback device "hw:0,0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again cannot load driver module alsa 21:29:30.079 JACK a été arrêté avec succès. 2 | 20:30 |
| holstein | right, so you know its not permissions then | 20:31 |
| holstein | sudo killall jackd | 20:31 |
| arno__ | on the start i havent this message i was running normaly | 20:31 |
| holstein | right | 20:31 |
| holstein | sudo killall jackd | 20:31 |
| holstein | then, try starting it as root again | 20:31 |
| arno__ | same message | 20:32 |
| holstein | OK | 20:32 |
| holstein | so, you'll need to double check the device settings | 20:32 |
| arno__ | i can modify the info list | 20:32 |
| arno__ | sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 20:35 |
| holstein | arno__: right | 20:35 |
| holstein | thats why i suggest running as root | 20:35 |
| arno__ | @audio - rtprio 95 @audio - memlock unlimite | 20:35 |
| holstein | you wont need to mess with that stuff running as root | 20:35 |
| holstein | AND, also | 20:35 |
| holstein | most of that has been depricated | 20:35 |
| holstein | however, if you will run, *temporarily* for testing purposes, in a terminal | 20:36 |
| holstein | gksudo qjackctl | 20:36 |
| holstein | then, when JACK starts like that | 20:36 |
| holstein | you know you have JACK talking to the hardware | 20:36 |
| holstein | thats when you can move to starting JACK as a normal user | 20:36 |
| holstein | and trouble shoot permissions errors | 20:36 |
| arno__ | no more sound but it start | 20:37 |
| holstein | arno__: there shouldnt be sound | 20:37 |
| holstein | it should just start | 20:37 |
| holstein | JACK wont make any sounds til you route something | 20:37 |
| holstein | and play it | 20:37 |
| holstein | BUT | 20:37 |
| holstein | you dont need to do that right now | 20:37 |
| holstein | just get JACK running as root | 20:38 |
| holstein | let it run for a second | 20:38 |
| holstein | stop it | 20:38 |
| holstein | close qjackctl | 20:38 |
| holstein | and reopen it as a normal user | 20:38 |
| holstein | and *dont* mess with the config | 20:38 |
| holstein | arno__: when installing those meta packages | 20:38 |
| holstein | you should have been asked about running JACK with realtime priority | 20:38 |
| holstein | you answered yes to that right? | 20:39 |
| arno__ | its cut it self alone | 20:39 |
| holstein | it stopped on its own? | 20:39 |
| arno__ | yes on realtime or not same result | 20:39 |
| arno__ | gksudo qjackctl | 20:40 |
| holstein | arno__: make sure you are up to date | 20:40 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 20:40 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 20:40 |
| arno__ | right | 20:41 |
| arno__ | ok | 20:41 |
| arno__ | i restart after | 20:41 |
| arno__ | gksudo qjacktl ? | 20:41 |
| holstein | no | 20:42 |
| arno__ | ok | 20:42 |
| holstein | thats just running JACK as root | 20:42 |
| arno__ | as root ? | 20:42 |
| arno__ | on the panel ? | 20:42 |
| holstein | the root user? | 20:42 |
| holstein | as a test | 20:42 |
| holstein | *temporarily | 20:42 |
| holstein | that allows you to bypass the permissions issues common to making JACK *not* start | 20:43 |
| arno__ | same result | 20:44 |
| holstein | arno__: are your packages up to day? | 20:44 |
| arno__ | im must start su jackd | 20:44 |
| holstein | date* | 20:44 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 20:44 |
| arno__ | yes | 20:44 |
| holstein | OK | 20:44 |
| holstein | what device are you using? | 20:44 |
| holstein | the internal sound card? | 20:45 |
| arno__ | when you type after i do | 20:45 |
| arno__ | usb | 20:45 |
| holstein | right | 20:45 |
| holstein | arno__: select the internal sound card for now | 20:45 |
| holstein | *temporarly | 20:45 |
| holstein | as a test | 20:45 |
| holstein | just to make sure JACK is working | 20:45 |
| holstein | *please | 20:45 |
| arno__ | its gone | 20:46 |
| arno__ | no stop with internal | 20:46 |
| arno__ | ok | 20:46 |
| holstein | arno__: OK | 20:47 |
| arno__ | so conflict usb device ? | 20:48 |
| holstein | so, its something to do with your USB device then | 20:48 |
| holstein | *again, a reason *not* to down grade to 10.04 | 20:48 |
| arno__ | nothing to do | 20:48 |
| holstein | but, we'll move on | 20:48 |
| holstein | arno__: this is linux | 20:48 |
| holstein | theres alwasy something to do ;) | 20:48 |
| holstein | arno__: with the USB device plugged in | 20:48 |
| holstein | run lsusb | 20:48 |
| holstein | you want to see the device there | 20:49 |
| holstein | AND | 20:49 |
| holstein | you want to run | 20:49 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 20:49 |
| holstein | and | 20:49 |
| holstein | arecord -l | 20:49 |
| holstein | that is also where you want to see it | 20:49 |
| arno__ | on the link of maudio there is a message | 20:49 |
| holstein | arno__: ?? | 20:49 |
| arno__ | **** Liste des PLAYBACK périphériques **** carte 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], périphérique 0 : ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] Sous-périphériques: 1/1 Sous-périphérique: #0: subdevice #0 carte 2: USB [Producer USB], périphérique 0 : USB Audio [USB Audio] Sous-périphériques: 1/1 Sous-périphérique: #0: subdevice #0 carte 3: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], périphérique 3 : ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI] Sous-périph | 20:49 |
| arno__ | **** Liste des CAPTURE périphériques **** carte 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], périphérique 0 : ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] Sous-périphériques: 1/1 Sous-périphérique: #0: subdevice #0 carte 1: VX5000 [Microsoft LifeCam VX-5000], périphérique 0 : USB Audio [USB Audio] Sous-périphériques: 1/1 Sous-périphérique: #0: subdevice #0 carte 2: USB [Producer USB], périphérique 0 : USB Audio [USB Audio] Sou | 20:50 |
| holstein | arno__: looks like ALSA is seeing it | 20:52 |
| holstein | SO, just double check, like i suggested | 20:52 |
| holstein | in JACK | 20:52 |
| holstein | under 'setup' | 20:52 |
| holstein | there are 2 drop down menus | 20:52 |
| holstein | near the word 'interface' | 20:52 |
| holstein | most people just see the one drop down menu | 20:53 |
| holstein | there are actually 2 arrows | 20:53 |
| holstein | one pointing right | 20:53 |
| holstein | and the other point down | 20:53 |
| holstein | look for your USB interface both places | 20:53 |
| holstein | assuming that is still failing, then i would suggest trying a different kernel | 20:54 |
| holstein | the -lowlatency for example | 20:54 |
| arno__ | lok can you read this to me ? | 20:54 |
| arno__ | http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=cf6f53946a5d2cfa3792487b2af97e61 | 20:54 |
| arno__ | after clic on this link opensource im lose | 20:55 |
| holstein | that is suggesting you get drivers from http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi | 20:56 |
| arno__ | yes but after im lose | 20:56 |
| holstein | however, alsa is seeing the device, so i would try some other things first | 20:56 |
| holstein | arno__: yeah, i havent used these | 20:56 |
| holstein | i would try some other things first | 20:56 |
| arno__ | yes | 20:56 |
| arno__ | kernel | 20:57 |
| holstein | arno__: the device worked in 11.04 right? | 20:57 |
| arno__ | ihtks | 20:57 |
| arno__ | yes | 20:57 |
| holstein | there are 2 major differences | 20:57 |
| holstein | kernel and the ALSA version | 20:57 |
| holstein | arno__: however, im not convinced that its not working | 20:57 |
| holstein | i feel like you just need to find the proper config in JACK setup | 20:58 |
| holstein | under interfaces | 20:58 |
| holstein | arno__: dont trust those labels | 20:58 |
| arno__ | yes i have test and its bad | 20:58 |
| holstein | and, when the machine reboots, ALSA can randomly change the order | 20:58 |
| holstein | hw:1 or whatever | 20:58 |
| holstein | thats what was happening to you before i think | 20:58 |
| holstein | when you were running 11.04 | 20:59 |
| holstein | and you would restart and the USB device would work sometimes | 20:59 |
| holstein | and sometimes not | 20:59 |
| arno__ | the same messgae | 20:59 |
| holstein | arno__: with all the options? | 20:59 |
| arno__ | no just realtime tes | 20:59 |
| arno__ | e | 20:59 |
| holstein | have you literally tried all possible combonations under 'interfaces | 20:59 |
| holstein | arno__: this has *nothing* to do with realtime | 21:00 |
| arno__ | i have try no block memory | 21:00 |
| holstein | arno__: yeah, *dont* mess with those settings please | 21:00 |
| holstein | that will *not* help | 21:00 |
| holstein | arno__: get those back to default | 21:01 |
| arno__ | *ok* | 21:01 |
| holstein | and leave them alone | 21:01 |
| holstein | JACK works fine with the internal sound device | 21:01 |
| holstein | SO, JACK, and the JACK config are *not* the problem | 21:01 |
| arno__ | ok the device problem | 21:01 |
| holstein | the problem is, either the device is not getting the support it needs frm the kernel | 21:01 |
| holstein | OR, you are not selecting in properly in 'interface' | 21:02 |
| arno__ | i see all input | 21:02 |
| arno__ | and all output | 21:02 |
| holstein | arno__: JUST interface | 21:02 |
| holstein | thats all you want to mess with right now | 21:03 |
| holstein | IF its not working | 21:03 |
| holstein | then, you can try either or both of these options | 21:03 |
| holstein | try a newer/different kernel | 21:03 |
| holstein | the -lowlatency one for example | 21:03 |
| holstein | or -realtime | 21:03 |
| holstein | OR, you want look and update ALSA | 21:03 |
| arno__ | ojk lets start your like | 21:03 |
| arno__ | so i never updata amlsa | 21:04 |
| holstein | you can try http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi to | 21:04 |
| holstein | o | 21:04 |
| holstein | OR, you can run 11.04 | 21:04 |
| holstein | which seems to support your hardware well | 21:04 |
| holstein | which is why i suggested *not* going back, just in case | 21:04 |
| holstein | but, you can sort it out :) | 21:04 |
| arno__ | on opensound i take the linux 2.6 x86 ? | 21:06 |
| arno__ | rpm den or tar what is easy ? | 21:06 |
| holstein | arno__: that depends | 21:07 |
| holstein | x86 is the 32bit | 21:07 |
| holstein | amd64 is 64bit | 21:07 |
| arno__ | yes mys sys 32 | 21:07 |
| holstein | .deb is for debian/ubuntu | 21:08 |
| arno__ | unbuntu 10.04 | 21:08 |
| holstein | so, for a 32bit ubuntu install, you would want an x86.deb for the 2.6 kernel | 21:08 |
| arno__ | yes go | 21:08 |
| holstein | arno__: all ubuntu's are .deb based and either 32 or 64bit | 21:08 |
| arno__ | dpkg –I the name | 21:10 |
| arno__ | its _i or -l | 21:10 |
| arno__ | -l | 21:10 |
| holstein | arno__: just click on it | 21:11 |
| arno__ | yes | 21:12 |
| arno__ | it runnin | 21:12 |
| arno__ | its oss | 21:12 |
| arno__ | no more alsa normaly that make dummy | 21:12 |
| holstein | yeah, i dont know anything about it | 21:12 |
| arno__ | if i remember | 21:12 |
| holstein | but, you should just be getting a module | 21:13 |
| arno__ | i must restart | 21:13 |
| arno__ | ao/ after | 21:13 |
| arno__ | holstein :$ | 21:19 |
| arno__ | nomore sound | 21:20 |
| arno__ | this update has shut all setup input | 21:20 |
| arno__ | i must unisntall this one | 21:21 |
| arno__ | holstein : i have reste open source oss | 21:42 |
| arno__ | and start new kernel | 21:42 |
| holstein | arno__: hey | 21:42 |
| arno__ | realtime | 21:42 |
| holstein | i thought i missed you | 21:42 |
| arno__ | and it real cool | 21:42 |
| holstein | arno__: good :) | 21:42 |
| arno__ | reoot 2 | 21:42 |
| arno__ | in real als not real the same qualité | 21:42 |
| arno__ | in 128 48000 | 21:43 |
| arno__ | 128 /2 48000 | 21:43 |
| arno__ | +realtime | 21:43 |
| arno__ | great | 21:43 |
| holstein | yup | 21:43 |
| arno__ | yup | 21:43 |
| holstein | -realtime should be more capable | 21:43 |
| holstein | can be* | 21:43 |
| arno__ | m-audio usb producer | 21:43 |
| holstein | 128 /2 is really quite good | 21:44 |
| arno__ | is compatible with the kernel realtime | 21:44 |
| arno__ | yep | 21:44 |
| holstein | arno__: OH, hey thats eve better | 21:44 |
| holstein | you added device support :) | 21:44 |
| arno__ | 5.33 ms | 21:44 |
| holstein | i knew you'd get it sorted out | 21:44 |
| holstein | i think anything near 10ms is acceptable for realtime work | 21:45 |
| arno__ | yep | 21:45 |
| arno__ | i must test the accurency of the systeme now | 21:45 |
| arno__ | and after test write a tutoriel to help other to use very well the install of usb maudio | 21:46 |
| arno__ | but now test | 21:46 |
| holstein | arno__: thats awesome | 21:46 |
| holstein | thanks for doing that | 21:46 |
| holstein | documentation is *always* appreciated | 21:46 |
| arno__ | you know the link to write about this | 21:47 |
| arno__ | wiki ? ubuntu | 21:47 |
| arno__ | ? | 21:47 |
| holstein | arno__: yeah, some wiki page | 21:47 |
| arno__ | yes its global | 21:48 |
| * holstein looking | 21:48 | |
| arno__ | in a week after my job for 24h of le mans | 21:48 |
| arno__ | CARs evenemnt | 21:48 |
| holstein | i say, anywhere you want | 21:48 |
| holstein | and link from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration | 21:48 |
| arno__ | its rec on holstein files | 21:49 |
| arno__ | i have take the defauft max latency of micro usb | 21:50 |
| arno__ | start ardour | 21:51 |
| arno__ | great just setup the master low ;;;; enjouy of a normal , ingeniorius tools | 21:56 |
| arno__ | yepppp | 21:56 |
| arno__ | bye | 21:56 |
| arno__ | a+ | 21:56 |
| holstein | o/ | 21:56 |
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