[00:18] pleia2: do you have time for a PM? [00:18] phillw: sure, but my internet is pretty lousy so I might drop off [07:16] phillw: Hey [07:17] phillw: (btw, you can email me at rainct@ubuntu.com) [08:32] anyone usine oneiric yet for testing [08:43] Fudge, what testing ? [08:52] orca in oneiric [09:01] hmm, no orca still keeps crashing on me, and my audio is broken too [09:02] I think I need to load classic for that to work properly [09:04] indeed i can confirm that [10:42] i can too, i jsut came back from failures [10:42] i do not believe classic is included with oneiric now? [10:42] or are you somehow able to isntall classic [10:44] install [10:51] :D [11:03] Fudge; What are you talking about? [11:05] MrChrisDruif: for Oneiric the 2D default will be Unity 2D, not 'Classic Gnome Desktop' [11:05] yes, that is what i was talking about, tks [11:06] Fudge: I suspect that they have not gotten around to making that change, however, in whatever is available for testing Oneiric. (although I've not tried installing it so I can't tell you for sure) [11:06] Won't Oneiric be based on Gnome 3 without the shell and with Unity instead? [11:07] A1 already out? [11:07] A1 is due thursday [11:07] Alright [11:41] #ubuntu-testing : guillemhs, the current package is not installable with at-spi2. [11:41] so that is a likely to be a w.i.p. [11:44] the context of this quote is ldtp/python-ldtp [12:13] fun fun [14:14] alpha1 is much too early for accessibility to be working. Not even the installs using the desktop cd are working without orca [16:49] Fudge: oneiric isn't even booting for some of the devs right now, let alone working *well* [18:12] maco, there's some known issues on todays builds that are being sorted. When the alpha 1 images show up on the iso tester, try again then. Note, there's a known issue running under kvm that won't be sorted in time for the release. [18:13] and yes, charlie-tca is right, its too early for accesibility to be working. Lots of transistions going on right now. [18:13] skaet: i havent tried at all. i just saw ev & dholbach saying their oneirics weren't booting [22:04] AlanBell: thanks for the update on Onboard menu item. It never occurred to them that they have been doing exactly that same thing for years? [22:05] charlie-tca: I believe it was a "decluttering" excercise [22:05] but as we now have all that clutter of offering other stuff to you to download it got more confusing [22:06] I believe the theory was you could start it from GDM so the menu option wasn't strictly neccessary [22:06] I see. I guess I will go beat my head on another wall now [22:06] Yes, that's right. The GDM thing, which you couldn't really do either when you really needed it. [22:07] ah, well. At least we get something out of all that.