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qman__Jaith, just grep all the URLs and make sure they're .ubuntu.com00:10
qman__or other sites you trust00:10
Jaithqman__: i was concerned about what sorts of packages might be downloaded ...like if i put 'multiverse'00:10
Jaithqman__: as i understand it, i need at least 'universe' to get most of the reasonable LAMP features00:11
qman__well, grepping the URLs will also show which repositories you're using too00:11
qman__if you don't trust universe or multiverse, you can remove those too00:11
Jaithi've left universe.  thanks for the feedback00:11
qman__IMO universe should be at least trustworthy00:12
qman__it's more a distinction of supported vs not00:12
Snuggeris update.ubuntu.com down? because i can00:52
Snuggeri can't connect to it for some reason00:52
stgraberdon't you mean archive.ubuntu.com ?00:53
Snuggeryes that is what i meant, newbie here i aplogize00:53
stgraberseems fine from here (quickly tested from Canada, Switzerland and Germany)00:54
Snuggerus.archive.ubuntu.com is moving super slow on my server,and when i try to install new programs, i time out for some reason00:55
stgraberwhat do you get when you run: host us.archive.ubuntu.com (use paste.ubuntu.com please as it's quite a long output)00:56
Snuggerno i'm trying to configure a driver for my usb wireless adapter for my server, so i was trying to type in wget http://www.avengergear.com/upload/WG111v3.tar.bz2  and  i time out00:57
Snugger\00:57
stgraberworks fine here too. You quite possibly have a DNS problem on your network00:58
Snuggerhow can i be certain?00:59
stgraberyou can try doing: time host archive.ubuntu.com01:01
stgraberand then: time host archive.ubuntu.com 8.8.8.801:01
stgraberand look at how long it takes to run each01:01
stgraberthe first uses your current DNS server, the second uses google's01:01
Snuggeri timed out on the host archive.ubuntu.com 8.8.8.8 but the first one went through fine the 2nd time, but i timed out the first time i did it01:06
Snuggerstill a possible DNS server issue? it wasn't acting like this earlier yesterday01:08
stgrabera timeout on 8.8.8.8 would tend to indicate some other network issues01:09
Snuggeri'll get back to you later, i have to go01:10
alamaranybody set up a central syslog loghost where multiple hosts send logging info to? are there some easy to use webinterfaces that provide filtering/searching/sorting capabilities? or how do you access the big amount of information easily?01:45
jMCgHey guys.01:47
jMCgI'm looking for a *sane* version of OpenLDAP -- the one in the Ubuntu repos comes with GnuTLS, which is not sane.01:48
jMCg...or I just rebuild it to be sane. ¯\(°_o)/¯01:57
gggsddssomebody can help to takeme in the right direcction of how to increse the Java VM max memory size?02:39
jMCggggsdds: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/whitepapers-jsp-139357.html take a look at the Memory Management White Paper.02:42
gggsddsthank you02:42
gggsdds=)02:43
TakyojiHow would one add a user on a server; without a password, only to be used via `su`03:08
smwTakyoji, just make the user and don't give it a password03:21
Takyojiactually it won't let you; with adduser03:22
Takyojiyou have to use --disable-password instead03:22
smwok03:23
smwTakyoji, good to know03:23
twb12:32 <twb> Any idea why I started getting these last night?  /lib/libpam.so.0: version `LIBPAM_MODUTIL_1.1.3' not found (required by /lib/security/pam_env.so)03:33
twb12:32 <twb> http://paste.debian.net/118461/03:33
* ajmitch saw a mention of that on the server mailing list, cron should have been restarted after a pam upgrade03:35
ajmitchtwb: restarting cron ought to get it working again03:36
twbHum, I don't remember upgrading pam yesterday03:36
ajmitchno unattended security upgrades enabled?03:37
twbI didn't *think* I enabled them03:38
twbMaybe I did and forgot03:38
ajmitcheither way, there were a couple of emails about it on the server mailing list about an hour ago03:38
twbOK, thanks03:38
Lobo29Need help with 11.04 on Dell PE1650, after server starts and OS should start, i get Cannot display this video mode03:46
Lobo29i can boot with Live CD03:46
twbLobo29: try passing vga=normal to the kernel03:48
Lobo29twb: noob user twb, how do i go about doing that ?03:49
twbLobo29: can you get to the bootloader?03:51
Lobo29twb: after raid and bios loads ok,  i get the error message...   I've edited grub via Live cd to be verbose, but i never see anything after bios load successful03:52
twbUbuntu did this "clever" thing of hiding grub by default, to save one measly second during boot03:53
qman__you have to hit a key to bring it up, escape or shift or something03:53
twbYou probably need to unhide it from the live CD, unless you can manage to hit shift at exactly the right time03:54
Lobo29qman__: yes, i have tried shift and I edited grub to "not be quiet and not display splash screeen" ... seems the Cannot display this video mode is also blocking me from seeing grub menu03:55
qman__also in their infinite wisdom, grub2 now uses a high resolution display mode by default03:56
twbLobo29: ah, that's because grub helpfully also- right03:56
qman__so you'd have to configure it to VGA03:56
twbqman__: only on x8603:56
twbLobo29: this is why *I* set up systems with extlinux03:57
twbWhich is the same codebase as everyone already uses for CDs (isolinux) and netbooting (pxelinux)03:57
Lobo29qman__: in grub, i uncommented the display line, to force 640x480,  found that fix, but doesn't seem to  help03:57
twb# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)03:58
twbGRUB_TERMINAL=console03:58
twb...in /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub03:58
qman__probably need to disable KMS altogether, or something similar03:58
qman__yeah03:58
Lobo29twb: i believe i've done the edits you've mentioned.  after update-grub i went back in a 2nd time on Live cd and looked at grub again,  changes i made are there04:00
Lobo29wondering if i go back in time and try 10.04 server may work instead ?04:01
qman__do you have a separate /boot? if so, did you make sure it was mounted when you ran update-grub?04:01
qman__10.04 uses grub2 and KMS, so that probably won't help04:02
qman__you'd have to drop back to 8.04 or 9.04 to get grub1 and no KMS by default04:02
qman__9.04 is past EOL04:02
Lobo29qman__: it does have separate boot, this  is my first server attempt.  copied steps from website to make this a clonezilla server04:03
qman__the configuration that grub actually uses at boot time is loaded in /boot04:03
Lobo29ran partition defaults for 'use entire disk and lvm'04:03
qman__so that partition must be mounted when you run update-grub04:03
qman__otherwise changes won't get applied04:03
Lobo29qman__: i have gone back on live cd and looked at grub, changes i've done have been made.04:05
qman__the files in /etc are only used to generate that configuration file04:05
qman__grub itself doesn't look at them04:05
Lobo29qman__: i went to /etc/default when i ran gedit on grub04:05
qman__yes04:06
qman__that file does not directly affect grub04:06
qman__it is merely used to generate the configuration file that grub actually uses, which is in /boot04:06
Lobo29qman__: ah ok, maybe that is my issue04:06
qman__so if /boot is not mounted when you ran update-grub, it would not make the change apply04:06
qman__you need to run update-grub with /boot mounted04:06
Lobo29qman__: ok,  i did mount /dev/sda1 before starting04:07
Lobo29this isn't good, i've eaten half a pan of brownies trying to resolve this :O04:09
twbhash isn't exactly good for critical thinking04:09
Lobo29twb: expands the thinking process04:10
qman__the actual config file grub uses at boot time is /boot/grub/grub.cfg04:10
qman__manually editing it is normally a bad idea since it will be overwritten, but you can check it to see if it reflects your changes04:11
Lobo29qman__: i'm booting back up with live cd now,  i can check that in few04:11
Lobo29qman__: ok, i'm at /boot/grub,  did ll and shows gfxblacklist.txt and grubenv, just those 2 files04:20
qman__should be a lot more files than that04:20
qman__about 185, to be more precise04:21
Lobo29ok, i'm poor cli skills, how do i verify i've mounted sda1 ?04:21
qman__mount04:22
qman__or df -h04:22
Lobo29mount shows  /dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type ext2 (rw)04:24
qman__well, that won't do you any good04:24
qman__you need it to be mounted at /boot (relative to your shell) for grub-install to do its job04:24
Lobo29last item on df is /dev/sda104:24
qman__mount your system's / in a location (e.g. /mnt/myinstall), then mount your system's /boot inside it (/mnt/myinstall/boot)04:25
qman__then chroot in there and run grub-install04:25
Lobo29remember i'm booted from live cd to look at  boot disk, if that matters ?04:25
qman__oh, probably have to mount /dev and /proc in there too04:26
qman__mount -t proc /mnt/myinstall/proc; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/myinstall/dev04:27
qman__chroot /mnt/myinstall /bin/bash04:28
qman__update-grub04:28
Lobo29qman__: grr, sorry, wasn't working,  trying again,  i need to sudo before all those :P04:32
Lobo29qman__:  sorry, sudo mount -t proc /mnt/myinstall/proc gives me  the verbose help list of mount ?04:38
Lobo29i also did sudo mkdir /mnt/myinstall/proc  and /dev04:40
Lobo29qman__: ok, now if i run df,  i show /dev/sda1  with /mnt/myinstall/proc and /dev04:44
Lobo29qman__: still with me ?04:47
Lobo29Anyone here a grub editor expert ?04:52
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BuenGeniogood'o gents07:20
BuenGenio(and lassies)07:20
BuenGenioPostfix question... Are there 2.8.x packages for 10.10  or 11.x ?07:21
jmarsdenBuenGenio: rmadison says:   postfix | 2.8.1-1~maverick1 | maverick-backports | source, amd64, i38607:24
jmarsdenSo there is one for Maverick in maverick-backports...07:24
BuenGeniowhat, how do I get it? and what about 2.8.2 or .3 ?07:24
jmarsdenrmadison also says:    postfix | 2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 | natty-updates | source, amd64, i38607:25
jmarsdenSo there is a 2.8.2 version for natty (11.04) in natty-updates.07:25
BuenGeniois it dangerous using the natty version on Maverick ?07:26
jmarsdenProbably.  You should backport it yourself (recompile the source package) at least, if you want to do that.07:26
jmarsdenThere is also:  postfix |    2.8.3-1 |       oneiric | source, amd64, i38607:27
jmarsdenBut you definitely would want to backport and test that one carefully before using it :)07:28
twbIt depends WHY you want 2.807:28
twbIf it's just because it's new and shiny, you should suck it up and run the integrated, tested, well-understood version that came with your release07:28
BuenGeniowell, whitelist support for one07:32
jitshi guys .. my port forwarding is not working. please review http://paste.ubuntu.com/615066/ and help me fix it...07:33
twbYou have to make a judgement call about whether it's worth the effort (and instability) to get that feature/bugfix/shiny07:34
twbe.g. it was worth me making openssl-based libldap packages (because they fixed passwd(1) for LDAP users), but not to replace syslogd with rsyslogd in hardy.07:35
jitstwb: can u help me plz ..07:36
twbjits: English, please.07:36
jitstwb:  my port forwarding is not working. please review http://paste.ubuntu.com/615066/ and help me fix it...07:36
twbjits: looks like you're using iptables-restore, so you should ask #netfilter07:37
koolhead11hi all07:37
jitsok .. thanks ..07:37
twbjits: but the problem is probably that you don't allow -d 10.1.0.20 -p tcp --dport 8080 in FORWARD07:37
jitstwb: okay .. so pre-routing is not the right thing ? I got it working once .. but then i had opened all ports . :-s07:38
twbjits: you need both07:38
jitstwb: i tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/615198/ .. added forward accept to port 8080 .. did not work :-( .. netfilter no one is responding07:47
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JamezQ1Hey guys, what do I need to install to get a usb external terabyte drive to work in ubuntu server08:04
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twbJamezQ1: ubuntu-standard08:12
JamezQ1twb, what?08:13
twbJamezQ1: you need the "ubuntu-standard" package08:14
JamezQ1twb, will that install any unessicary gui, or anything like that?08:17
twb!TIAS08:18
twbGrmph08:18
JamezQ1tias?08:18
twbJamezQ1: no08:18
JamezQ1alright, then I'll do it, thanks08:19
twbubuntu-standard is almost certainly already installed, and you just don't know how to deal with hard disks08:19
JamezQ1ubuntu-standard is already the newest version.08:19
JamezQ1what...08:19
twbJamezQ1: what isn't working NOW?08:19
JamezQ1an external "free agent go" drive.08:20
JamezQ1It works fine when normal ubuntu was running on it, it does not work correctly with ubuntu server08:20
twbDefine "works"08:21
JamezQ1I tried fdisk -l, and nothing shows up, that *is* what the wiki says to do08:21
JamezQ1it connects and can trasfer files back and forth?08:21
twbfdisk -l is wrong.  You should be checking /proc/partitions.08:21
twbDisks are not mounted by default.  Assuming the disk exists (check /proc/partitions and dmesg), you will need to mount and unmount it manually, or deploy infrastructure to do so automatically.08:22
twbThe latter is not part of ubuntu-standard, but IIRC ubuntu desktops do it (which personally I think is bloody stupid)08:22
JamezQ1it gives many errors, as shown here08:23
JamezQ1http://pastebin.com/kM6nHmRW08:23
twbYeah, [524869.156539] hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 says it's not working08:24
JamezQ1alright, yea08:24
twbIf this is a 2.5" USB disk, provide external power, or try a different USB hub/port cluster08:24
JamezQ1cat partitions shows "dm-0/dm-1", idk what that is.08:25
twbIf this is a 3.5" USB disk, it will already have external power... not sure what you can do there other than swap in different components (different USB port, different USB cable, different power cable, different motherboard)08:25
twbJamezQ1: dm-0 will be your LVM LV, or possibly fakeraid08:25
JamezQ1alright08:25
JamezQ1any reason it works in desktop and not server?08:26
twbno idea08:26
JamezQ1alright08:26
twbYou're try both on the same hardware?08:26
JamezQ1yes08:26
JamezQ1and same port08:26
twbSame kernel version (e.g. 2.6.32?08:26
JamezQ1oh, I am not sure about that, but both 10.0408:27
twbOK08:27
twbIn that case only thing I can think of is maybe your HDD doesn't like being turned on before (after?) the computer08:27
twbOr likewise being unplugged/plugged when it's turned on08:27
twbI'd try to reproduce the behaviour with a different USB enclosure08:28
JamezQ1hmm08:28
JamezQ1eh, got it to work in a different port08:31
JamezQ1then did fdisk -l, made the dir, and it worked08:31
JamezQ1thanks a lot, I might not have tried it without you.08:31
JamezQ1Sorry, though, I really should have ruled all of them out for you :(08:39
JamezQ1I apologize08:39
JamezQ1bye08:39
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BactaHow are server side mail filters implemented?08:46
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twbBacta: carefully?08:49
Linskyratecan you deplay desktops via ubuntu server thrugh privat cloud with no Amazon involvement?08:49
ikonia!ops | Bacta is on a namespace wide ban - please remove and speak to IRC council for confirmation08:50
ubottuBacta is on a namespace wide ban - please remove and speak to IRC council for confirmation: Help! Channel emergency! soren, lamont, mathiaz or tom08:50
twbLinskyrate: I suppose so, although I don't see why you'd deploy *desktops* in the cloud08:50
twbLinskyrate: if you want something like Windows Terminal Server, see LTSP08:50
Linskyratetwb: just a thought08:50
Linskyratewould be an ASP killer if cost is good08:51
twbUh... huh.08:51
Linskyratetwb: LTSP?08:51
twbI don't think anyone with any brains uses ASP *now*08:52
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Linskyratequit09:25
LinSkyrateOk... discover ubuntu cloud server.. done that.. awfull litle info on youtube, exept for the install part, but what next?10:18
LinSkyrateseems that everybody has the hang of installing, but image behavier etc are left out.. yes you can link to Amazon, but if you want a private cloud then?10:19
twbI think if you're asking youtube for technical information, you have two problems10:24
_rubenheh10:25
twbThe only video I can remember that was vaguely useful on youtube was some blind guys talking about how awesome they made smartphones (iphones?) for blind people10:26
twbAnd you can imagine how pointless the video channel of that was -- two blind guys sitting in front of a camera, talking10:27
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roel-smw: that 'seen' flag doesn't seem to work10:49
roel-smw: when I install manually, the installer asks for the new hostname very early on, but when I set the other network info (gateway,nameservers,netmask,dhcp off etc), the hostname prompt is skipped altogether10:50
roel-i would like to see this preseeding code10:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #790572 in mysql-5.1 (main) "mysqld randomly crashes on SHOW ENGINE INNODB STATUS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79057211:16
reisiany ideas how i could preview which packages are to be updated, using commandline tools only? there are a few i'd like to hold11:18
greppyreisi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:20
reisigreppy: ok, i was just wondering if it could be queried11:21
reisihmm nice, after getting an 10.04.1 to 10.04.2 the motd is screwed; there's the normal issue, welcome, documentation, and under it the same again, and pre-update package counts, system restart required12:01
reisiecho > /etc/motd.tail cleared it; there seems to be some discussion about this before the lts release, but nothing since12:05
_rubenyeah, something really screwed up the motd generation a while ago12:05
codecheya.13:19
codeccan someone help me out with a UEC problem on maverick? all my VM types report 0000 / 0000 since my rootfs filled up last night ... i fixed that and since that i cant see the (still) running instances and neither start new ones..13:20
EricJI'm having problems with multiple modules being loaded for my hardware. Any suggestions on how I prevent the erroneous ones from loading?13:23
EricJsimply blacklisting them in /etc/modprobe.d/ doesn't seem to help..13:24
pmatuliscodec: sounds like you've lost contact with your cluster controller13:26
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codecpmatulis: euca_conf --list-clusters --list-scs --list-walruses --list-nodes shows everything13:34
codecpmatulis: but the cc.log says  refresh_resources(): bad return from ncDescribeResource13:35
nkvEricJ: once you blacklisted them, did you unload the incorrect module?13:35
nkvI usually have to do that manually after I setup the blacklist13:36
EricJnkv: indeed I did,13:36
EricJturns out I had junk laying around in /etc/modules, and that modules specified there are loaded regardless of blacklists >_>13:36
nkvOh yeah.. That is higher priority than /etc/modules.d13:37
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nkvI mean modprobe.d13:37
codecaxis2/services/ shows EucalyptusNC but axis2/services/EucalyptusNC gives me a 404?!13:37
nkvit's too early to think :)13:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #790661 in nova (universe) "nova-network should depend on dnsmasq and bridge-utils" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79066113:56
codeccan someone do a grep -i services /var/lib/eucalyptus/db/eucalyptus_config.script for me?14:01
codecor grep -i EucalyptusNC14:01
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benccapt-get upgrade doesn't work because of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/79053814:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 790538 in pam "pam update causes cron to stop working with "Module is unknown" error" [Critical,Confirmed]14:05
benccshouldn't it handle regression bugs automatically?14:06
pmatulisbencc: shouldn't apt-get handle a bug?  huh?14:06
benccpmatulis: not the bug but a regression bug14:07
benccsomeone uploaded a bad version of a package14:07
benccthat's it? everything is waiting for it to fix?14:07
bencccan't the bad package be removed and apt-get automatically revert to the old package14:08
pmatulisbencc: it has been removed14:08
pmatulisbencc: that's nothing to do with apt-get.  it will install the latest stuff14:08
benccso why does apt-get upgrade fails?14:08
benccpmatulis: I've installed a fresh ubuntu-server 11.04 and did:14:09
benccapt-get update && apt-get upgrade14:09
benccand getting lines like: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main libpam0g amd64 1.1.2-2ubuntu8.214:09
benccso, something is broken in the repository not just the package14:09
PiciThats normal.14:09
benccwhy?14:10
zulsoren: did you get xen working yet?14:10
PiciMajorly broken updates are typically manually removed from the archives so that people won't accidentally upgrade to them.14:10
benccPici: so is there an apt command to handle it automatically?14:11
benccapt-get revert to stable or something14:11
Picibencc: You could try using --ignore-missing if there are other updates that you need to get at this time.14:13
benccPici: ok. still feels bad14:13
sorenzul: It works fine on real hardware. I can't get it work in KVM anymore :(14:18
zulsoren: good except the kvm bits14:18
zulsoren: i need to get the ubuntu bits uploaded still sitting on them14:19
sorenzul: Like what?14:19
zulsoren: like libxen3->libxen414:19
zulstupid libvirt14:19
uvirtbotNew bug: #790673 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79067314:21
sorenUm.. You're the one who changed the xen stuff to build a libxen3-dev rather than a libxen-dev.14:21
zulsoren: right14:22
zulsoren: but the libraries that libvirt need is in like 4 different packages now as well14:22
sorenzul: What does it need other than libxen-dev?14:23
zulxenstore i think is one im sure there is more14:23
sorenI only see libxen-dev.14:24
zulin the xen 4.1 package?14:25
sorenNo, in libvirt's dependencies.14:25
zuldoh...i didnt notice that....nm then14:27
soren:)14:28
zulthat will certainly make life easier then14:28
koolhead11RoAkSoAx, hey14:47
slhsenhey, can i upgrade a server from jounty to lucid using alternate-cd iso?15:02
Picislhsen: You'd need to go through Karmic first.15:04
sorenhallyn: Do you plan on updating libvirt anytime soon?15:10
hallyn_soren: I have a candidate source package, but it had some problems15:12
hallyn_jdstrand was looking into one CVE regression15:12
hallyn_soren: definately it needs to get updated for this cycle15:12
sorenhallyn_: ok15:21
lynxmanzul: any thoughts about upgrading erlang to a newer version for this cycle?15:21
zullynxman: why?15:21
lynxmanzul: we're running R13B03, latest stable one being R14B03, we're a full major version behind15:22
zullynxman: maybe...well see what debian does15:23
lynxmanzul: sounds fair :)15:23
hallyn_soren: do you have a need for a particular version soon-ish?15:23
sorenhallyn_: I don't know. I have an issue that I was wondering whether was fixed in 0.9.X.15:23
hallyn_soren: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt-0.9.1-sync.2.tar.gz has the source i was working with if you want to test15:25
sorenhallyn_: And what was the problem with it?15:27
hallyn_soren: oh i meant test to see if it fixes your problems.  THe package did work fine for me, but there were failures from the regression testsuite15:27
hallyn_let's see - one was just that 'driver name='phy'' stopped working (which is notabug)15:28
hallyn_THe other was CVE 2010_223915:28
sorenhallyn_: Why did you remove [linux-any] from all the dependencies?15:31
hallyn_isn't that invalid for ubuntu?15:32
hallyn_I read that as 'not hurd'15:32
cocoa117is it still possible to do-release-upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?15:35
cocoa117i got error message "An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool."15:35
pmatuliscocoa117: there is a wiki page on doing stuff like that (EOL upgrades)15:36
Pici!eol15:36
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:36
cocoa117when i look at my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades15:36
PiciLast link ^15:36
cocoa117cool, thanx guys15:36
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: o/15:39
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cocoa117what is the linux-image-virtual for? is it for domU ubuntu? i am running Ubuntu server on a Xen, should i use linux-image-virtual over linux-image-server?15:57
smbcocoa117, It is generally geared towards virtual machine installations. It may miss some modules as it tries to be lean. The server kernel does not have the virt drivers build-in. But if you are currently ok, I'd probably not change it16:02
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cocoa117smb, thanx, well i am using xen version of kernel, so don't know if it's going to be ok. i am going to test after upgrade16:04
smbcocoa117, I assume that is a hardy to whatever upgrade then...?16:05
cocoa117smb, actually, it is 9.04 EOF to 9.10 to 10.0416:05
cocoa117have bit of trouble at the moment, even with help from EOF upgrade wiki16:06
smbcocoa117, So in that case going from a kernel package with xen in its name I would go for -virtual16:07
cocoa117smb, ok, whats the procedure then. I need to do-release-upgrade first to 9.04 ->9.10 -> 10.04, i guess i should do apt-get install *-virtual after?16:08
cocoa117not sure if the newly install kernel allow me to login after upgrade16:09
cocoa117need to test16:09
smbI would hope/assume that the upgrade path does this, yeah16:09
smbI mean automatically move from a xen kernel to virtual...16:09
cocoa117yes, same thoughts16:10
RoAkSoAxzul:16:18
RoAkSoAxzul: ping16:18
zulRoAkSoAx: pong16:18
RoAkSoAxzul: hey!! I was just looking into merging pastedeploy and in Ubuntu the delta was to enable the tests, however, in the new upstream release the tests have been excluded from the released tarballs..16:19
RoAkSoAxzul: so in this kind of cases we can just forget about the tests or should we patch the source re-adding them?16:19
WMPhello16:19
WMPwhy php5-mysql have in depends apache?16:20
zulRoAkSoAx: do you know why it was remomved?16:20
RoAkSoAxzul: changelog doesn't say anything elkse but "Excluded tests from release distributions"16:20
RoAkSoAxzul: that's upstream's changelog, not debian16:20
zulRoAkSoAx: disable the tests in the debian package then16:20
RoAkSoAxzul: cool, thanks ;)16:21
orudieHow can I generate a new client. Haven't done this in a while16:26
xokvictorwho tell me? how set ubuntu-server as server for think clients?16:30
orudiehmm. when i type ./vars it tells me permission denied16:34
orudieas root16:34
giovaniorudie: you're going to have to give us more information than that16:35
cocoa117after following EOF upgrades Jaunty, I still got error message Cannot upgrade16:35
cocoa117An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.16:35
cocoa117it should upgrade to Karmic!!! any cli to manually set it?16:35
cocoa117tar: Removing leading `/' from member names16:39
cocoa117pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci16:39
cocoa117lspci: Cannot find any working access method.16:39
cocoa117is this need to be solved before do-rlease-upgrade?16:39
xokvictorwho can tell me? how set ubuntu-server as server for think clients?16:40
SpamapSxokvictor: thin clients you mean?16:47
xokvictorSpamapS, sorry, yes16:55
WinstonSmithhi :) is there a howto or similar to install the latest perl 5.14?17:12
WinstonSmithor newer debs than the stock 5.10?17:14
koolhead17hello all17:18
koolhead17RoAkSoAx: i wanted to know if you had chance to test the multicasting capability of cobbler17:18
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: hey, not yet I'm gonna be working on cobbler later this week though17:19
koolhead17RoAkSoAx: cool. i will update the wiki as you suggested after running second test from my end tomorrow. :)17:20
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: yeah I think we need to create a category for all of these17:21
RoAkSoAxSuch as "Enablying features"17:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #790774 in openssh (main) "ssh hangs after inactivity (maybe when connection is lost)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79077417:21
RoAkSoAxEnabling*17:21
koolhead17yes. i will do it as you suggested, creating a new section and all17:22
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: cool ;) thanks for helping out!!17:22
koolhead17RoAkSoAx: its mutual :D17:22
koolhead17am going to trouble you for koan as i have not tested it on kvm/vmware17:23
RoAkSoAxkoolhead17: sure thing17:23
koolhead17:)17:23
sw0rdfishhey guys how do i fix this17:52
sw0rdfishperl: warning: Setting locale failed.17:52
sw0rdfishperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:17:52
sw0rdfishLANGUAGE = (unset),17:52
sw0rdfishLC_ALL = (unset),17:52
sw0rdfishLANG = "en_US.UTF-8"17:52
sw0rdfish    are supported and installed on your system.17:52
sw0rdfishperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").17:52
KiallHi all .. Does anyone have an example of preventing large files from entering the cache? Ideally based on the Content-Length ..17:53
Kialllol17:56
Kiallwrong channel ;)17:56
Kiall(hell - even wrong IRC server ;))17:57
sw0rdfishlol<17:57
jMCgKiall: which cache/server?18:09
zulhallyn: hey are you going to do a libvirt upload anytime soon18:10
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KialljMCg, varnish :)18:21
Kiallbut .. got the answer in the #varnish channel on another server ;)18:21
* RoyK wonder why Redpill Linpro still sticks to their own network18:22
hallynzul: i'm waiting in feedback from jdstrand18:26
hallyni may investigate the remaining issues myself this afternoon though18:26
zulhallyn:cool im going to do a testbuild with libxen-devel and write the MIR up for it today hopefully18:46
zulSpamapS: where are we with mysql 5.5?18:53
jMCgKiall: and what was the answer?18:54
RoyKzul: postgresql 9 is nice ;)18:55
SpamapSzul: side tracked with a few other things. Should submit it to Debian later this week tho18:55
KialljMCg, override the internal TTL after the item has entered the cache, triggering an immediate expiry  ..18:55
zulSpamapS: cool18:56
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sw0rdfishanyone got experience with ajaxplorer?20:02
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uvirtbotNew bug: #790841 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79084120:11
hallyn_is anyone running kvm on a lucid system who can confirm bug 790789?  Particularly if you can say you're on intel and not affected, but any datapoints...20:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 790789 in qemu-kvm "KVM Guest freezing following Ubuntu update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79078920:32
RoyKhenkjan_: I'm running a few VMs on my Lucid server, and haven't seen that - that said, I'm not running asterisk on any of them. I used to work with asterisk a few years ago, and got a little fed up with the code, to put it mildly...20:35
RoyKhttp://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk-installation.wav http://karlsbakk.net/fun/asterisk_architecture.jpg20:36
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cocoa117is the ubuntu-standard metapackage as ideal choice for ubuntu server20:55
smwcocoa117, ubuntu-server20:55
smwcocoa117, you can then use taskel to install other groups of packages (or apt-get)20:55
cocoa117i can't see the ubuntu-server metapackage20:56
smwcocoa117, in that case I think it is ubuntu-standard20:56
RoyKcocoa117: just install ubuntu server, hook off ssh server and do the rest manually20:56
RoyKcocoa117: the basic ubuntu install gives you a basic server20:57
RoyKno services, just a server setup20:57
smwcocoa117,  This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu standard system.20:57
smw This set of packages provides a comfortable command-line Unix-like20:57
smw environment.20:57
smw .20:57
smw It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that20:57
smw it not be removed.20:57
cocoa117Royk, hi, i installed it with Xen-tool, so don't know what package is installed20:57
smwI would say it is a good thing for server.20:57
RoyKcocoa117: just install whatever services you need20:57
RoyKcocoa117: a server isn't a set of services, it's a platform onto which you can install services20:57
cocoa117RoyK, k, just want to be sure, it didn't install xwindows, which is wasting space20:58
RoyKcocoa117: if you need SMB, install samba, if you need web, install apache or lighttpd or something, if you need php ..... et cetera et cetera ad infinitum20:58
cocoa117got it20:59
RoyKdon't install a 'base package' with all sorts of crap - install what you need. period.21:00
RoyKheh21:00
smwRoyK, um... I would like for stuff like wget to be installed automatically...21:00
smwRoyK, which is why ubuntu-standard is better than ubuntu-minimal :-P21:01
smwRoyK, I am also not sure minimal comes with cron... it depends on the distro21:01
* RoyK creates metapackages for such setups21:01
RoyKthe standard install is small enough for most setups21:01
smwRoyK, you mean like ubuntu-standard? lol21:01
RoyKno, server install21:01
RoyKno gnome etc21:01
smwRoyK, ubuntu-desktop is gnome, etc21:02
smwRoyK, ubuntu-standard appears to be server. I need to look at the ubuntu server preseed file to be sure.21:02
RoyKsmw: we have a bunch of machines used by scientists at work, they need a truckload of packages, python, fortran, libgrid, libcdf etc - I created a metapackage for the lot21:03
smwRoyK, that is a good idea21:03
smwRoyK, I am making a scientific linux (rhel 6) ami and I am realizing how much is missing from "base"21:04
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RoyKsmw: once I'm done with it and have trimmed it down, I may post it21:05
fooman2011hello :)21:05
RoyKsmw: what packages do you need in your setup?21:05
smwRoyK, not many actually. I love htop though :-)21:05
smwRoyK, it is yet another top... but better ;-)21:06
RoyKI know21:06
RoyKeats more than half my terminal :P21:06
RoyKcompute nodes are dual 12-core opterons21:06
fooman2011I newbe under linux so my question may be seems stupid... I have used apt-get to add a package A. Then i have used apt-get to add a package B. B depends on A. Now i have to get the package A from another repository. It's possible to do this without removing the package B ?21:07
fooman2011not sure that my question is clear21:08
smwfooman2011, I believe apt always fetches the newest package21:08
smwfooman2011, so if the other repo has the newest package, it will switch to that repo21:08
fooman2011ok so how to tell to apt to get the specific version from the "PPA" ?21:08
smwfooman2011, without package B being affected21:08
smwfooman2011, is it newer? just update21:09
RoyKsmw: it doesn't seem to show hard/soft pagefaults, though21:09
smwRoyK, you can configure what it shows...21:09
fooman2011mmh sorry but "just update" i don't know how to do that21:09
smwRoyK, I don't know if those are options21:09
RoyKcouldn't find pagefaults at first sight, though21:09
smwfooman2011, is the new repo installed?21:09
fooman2011i have added the ppa using the add-apt-repository21:10
smwfooman2011, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade21:10
RoyKsmw: dist-upgrade is generally safer in case a jump from 10.04.1 to .2 etc21:10
RoyKwell, not necessarily safer, but easier21:10
smwRoyK, at, that help for when it does not update a package?21:11
smws/at/ah/21:11
fooman2011it's another build i dont know if it's newer or older but this is the one i need21:11
smwRoyK, I have always forced the updates by hand XD21:11
fooman2011first the repository. Is this correct ? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer?field.series_filter=lucid21:12
RoyKsmw: I guess it might help dependencies21:12
smwfooman2011, no idea. I don't use add-apt-repository21:13
smwfooman2011, if you copy and pasted it from somewhere... it should be right :-P21:13
fooman2011i just want to install this: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer?field.series_filter=lucid21:14
fooman2011how to do this please ?21:14
RoyKhe - using mplayer on a server?21:14
smwfooman2011, aren't there instructions?21:14
smwRoyK, it is great for transcoding21:14
fooman2011yeah i will do this:21:15
fooman2011sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rvm/mplayer21:15
smwwhat is is mplayer good for? It is an aweful player21:15
RoyKsmw: better than ffmpeg?21:15
fooman2011but then how to know which package apt-get will get ?21:15
fooman2011from the other repository of from the ppa ?21:15
fooman2011maybe it ask to me ?21:15
fooman2011" add-apt-repository: command not found"21:17
fooman2011pffff21:17
fooman2011it's write here: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/ppa21:17
fooman2011how it's is possible ?21:17
fooman2011use linux is very hard....21:17
fooman2011very not user friendly :(21:17
fooman2011So please could you tell me how you add a PPA ?21:18
RoyKfooman2011: lol - try solaris or freebsd or HP/UX or AIX or something and come back here and tell me linux isn't userfriendly :D21:19
fooman2011:/21:20
RoyKthe only unix system I know being slightly more userfriendly than ubuntu is OS X, but then only for select software21:20
fooman2011ok for info the enable the command add-apt-repository you have to install sudo apt-get install python-software-properties21:21
RoyKpossibly - no idea, really21:22
RoyKyou can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add new repos there if you want to21:22
fooman2011ok thanks but now the repository is added21:23
fooman2011and when I do21:23
fooman2011apt-get install mencoder21:23
fooman2011it told me "already installed"21:23
RoyKyou need to apt-get update first21:23
fooman2011ok21:23
RoyKand if it's already installed, an apt-get dist-upgrade should upgrade it21:24
fooman2011i'm not sure that is a newer version21:24
fooman2011it's "another" version21:24
RoyKthen you'll need to uninstall the version you have and specifically install the new version21:24
RoyKapt-get remove --purge21:24
RoyKis your friend21:24
fooman2011ok but it's my first question21:25
fooman2011if i remove this package i have to remove all the packages which depends on it21:25
fooman2011" Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/mplayer/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"21:26
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping21:26
fooman2011the repository seems to not be valid :'(21:26
RoyKfooman2011: it won't - you need to remove those specifically or by 'apt-get autoremove'21:27
RoyKfooman2011: tough luck21:27
fooman2011ok21:28
fooman2011now i have a new problem21:29
fooman2011aven after remove the dead PPA, when i apt(get update, i have this: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/mplayer/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found21:29
fooman2011i have edited the /etc/apt/sources.list21:30
fooman2011i don't find it into21:30
fooman2011another place ?21:30
guntbertfooman2011: look into /etc/apt/sources.list.d21:38
oyiptonghi!21:40
oyiptongi'd like to know what you do to keep multiple servers in sync with regards to packages21:40
oyiptongi want to install an old package on a supported release that has been superceded21:41
oyiptongon the forums, people hunt down the pacakge in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ or via launchpad.net. I want to script it and do it programmatically21:41
fooman2011gunterb: yes i saw it. How to remove21:41
fooman2011?21:41
oyiptongwhat can i do?is there an apt sources location i can use?21:41
fooman2011ok how to install with dependencies using dpkg ?21:58
oyiptongfooman2011: i think you need to use apt-get22:00
fooman2011yes but it's a file22:01
fooman2011not located in a repository22:01
oyiptongi think there are ways to use apt-get locally22:02
oyiptongdpkg is a simple installer22:02
sorenfooman2011: Use gdebi22:02
oyiptongapt-get and aptitude are "smart" and resolve dependencies22:02
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RoyKoyiptong: last I checked, dpkg doesn't install if dependencies aren't fullfilled, unless you --force it, that is22:03
oyiptongyeah that's what i'm saying. dpkg won't resolve the dependencies for you22:03
* RoyK is tired - nite guys22:04
* soren tries again: gdebi22:04
guntbertg'night RoyK22:04
oyiptonggdebi will work22:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #790912 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79091222:22
johnaI am trying work out what partition should I use for a webdav Space, about a dozen users, mixed windows and linux users.23:55

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