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Unit193Howdy, vychune01:05
cyberangerchris4585: I think I've figured out how I'm gonna push out custom live disc images02:03
wrsthello cyberanger02:10
cyberangerhey wrst02:16
cyberangerI think I've figured out how I'm gonna push out custom live disc images, without hurting my own connection much02:17
cyberangeruse some apache redirects and http://www.coralcdn.org/02:17
cyberangerdown side is some setups call it a proxy avoidance tool02:23
cyberangerbut that's what the torrents will help fix02:23
cyberangergoal is to allow access to it 90% of the time, to 90% of everyone02:26
cyberangerby budget makes that mark, then I'll be stunned02:26
cyberangerwrst: care for some openbox goodness in a few days02:38
wrstsure cyberanger :)02:40
wrstlive cd or install ? I'm happy to do either02:41
wrstor both02:41
vychuneo/02:45
cyberangerlive for the moment02:46
cyberangerperhaps both down the road02:46
wrstcool cyberanger want to test in a VM or on real hardware?02:46
cyberangerI'm testing both, and planning to let anyone try it when I've got it on the server working02:54
cyberangeropenbox geared to admin work, virus scans cheifly02:54
cyberangerbut knowing me, it's any task that works better than windows, crammed as well as I can onto a 699MB cd02:57
cyberangerwhich is nearly all tasks I can think of ;-)02:57
wrstha ha cool will be happy to try it out03:00
cyberangerI'd still like to get my mirror going, but I'm hoping this will help me learn some bandwidth management tricks03:02
cyberangerand learn a bit more about CDN's03:03
cyberangernot more theroy, but actual implementations03:03
cyberangerI got into linux for server knowlege, now I'm continuing down that road, always a new topic in linux03:04
wrstseems like the topics are limitless about like what you can do with it03:04
cyberangerexactly, it's like we've got all the flavors one could want, we just suggest everyone avoid the macintosh apple flavor, it's sorta stale03:06
wrststale apples aren't good at all03:26
* cyberanger wonders if wrst got the hidden joke in that03:28
* cyberanger figures he did03:28
wrst:)03:28
wrstyep, cyberanger i'm heading to bed early I think catch you tomorrow03:29
cyberangerwrst: I ought to soon myself, lest I be tired at work03:33
cyberangertoo tired, that is03:33
wrstsame here, see you later cyberanger03:34
Unit193cyberanger: Added kon-boot to it?05:16
cyberangerkon-boot?05:17
Unit193It's nice if you're fixing windows computers (Login without knowing the pass. I'll get the site)05:18
Unit193http://www.piotrbania.com/all/kon-boot/05:18
cyberangerah, usually just use chntpw05:18
Unit193That will kill the pass, this will only bypass05:19
cyberangeryeah, and I presume what it's doing (based on the linux tricks of similar nature) is sticking it in a chroot of sorts, and meddling with files05:20
cyberangerfor windows, primarlly the Registry files, SAM for login authentication05:20
cyberangersounds like one to add05:20
Unit193Sounds more like kernel ram mods05:21
cyberangerusually we just blank it, no point hiding that we got in and fixed it, less they try and hide our payday05:21
cyberangerthat's another idea on how, there are a few ways05:22
Unit193I didn't know of any others that don't modify the system05:25
Unit193And I'll try it if you push it out...05:27
cyberangerjust gotta get it done, it will be pushed out05:36
wrstchris4585: looks like lots of GNOME 3 extensions are starting to get out in the wild www.webupd8.org has a few blogs on them13:33
wrstmorning Xpistos14:43
XpistosMornings14:43
wrstXpistos: have a good weekend?14:49
Xpistoslong14:49
wrstthat's the glory of it isn't it?14:49
vychunegood morning15:07
Xpistoshey vychune15:40
vychunehow ya doing this morning15:40
cyberangervery well, thanks for asking vychune15:47
cyberangerhaow about you?15:47
vychunefinally youre doing good15:47
cyberangerfairly good ;-)15:51
cyberangeralways leave room for improvement ;-)15:51
vychuneikr15:54
Xpistos#join /facebook16:59
XpistosDUH!16:59
vychunenope im never making that mistake again17:00
wrsthey vychune, cyberanger17:07
vychunemorning wrst17:08
vychunehows the bot17:21
wrstvychune: no time yet might mess with it today sometime :)17:53
vychuneoh ok17:58
cyberangerlol Xpistos18:04
cyberangerhey wrst18:04
wrstcyberanger: how's it going?18:07
cyberangerwrst: busy, work18:50
wrstthat's good cyberanger18:51
wrstsame here18:51
cyberangerwrst: indeed good, however being busy is mixed18:57
wrstmixed?18:57
cyberangerquicker burnout19:04
cyberangerI can handle it, but deadline pressure isn't a nice pressure19:04
wrstits good for you cyberanger ;)20:08
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* vychune was just taught a good lesson21:12
cyberangerwrst: true21:16
Unit193wrst: What bot did you go with?21:24
wrstnone yet :)21:24
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electricuswrst: i'm using macbuntu 10.10 now21:47
vychunethats great21:47
electricuscompiz is botched in the 11.04.. i'm going to wait for those bugs to be addressed21:47
wrstmacubuntu... hmm something about that doesn't set well with me electricus21:47
electricus..but other than that.. i like the unity desktop environment21:47
electricushaha21:47
wrstelectricus: i'm waiting until gnome 3 is useable in ubuntu before I worry with it21:47
wrstI love gnome 321:48
electricusMacbuntu:  http://www.oslike.se/21:48
electricusit's pretty..what can i say21:48
electricussome mac dudes at church were totally freaked out..haha21:49
electricusthey were amazed was more like it21:49
vychunewhen did they get a iso21:49
electricusand then i showed them the software center and games you can download.. and said it was all free!  there eyes popped out.. LOL21:49
electricusi don't know.. i just saw it.. but the 11.04 is still quirky with the minimize effect (magic lamp) i've heard is related to the latest compiz and patent infringement on mac's minimize21:51
electricusgeesh21:51
wrstelectricus: I don't think 11.04 is really meant to be stable or to have all the kinks worked out I think its more to get it into the wild to get all the kinks found21:54
electricushmm. it was just released last month right?21:54
wrstyes21:54
electricusit's pretty sweet.. they're copying mac osx pretty much except the dock is squares on the left21:56
wrstelectricus: I don't really know if that is soemthing that I'm proud of or not, I'm really liking gnome 321:57
electricusso what is the deal with gnome3?  is ubuntu going to ship with it in the future?21:58
wrstelectricus: if I'm not mistaken unity will use gtk 3 in 11.10 so you can run gnome 3  and unity side by side21:58
electricusthat's cool21:59
wrstelectricus: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/gnome-shell-is-finally-available-in.html22:05
electricuscan you download 11.10 now?22:05
electricusi guess not22:05
wrstelectricus: you can possibly, or just install 11.04 and upgrade it22:07
wrstactually I think until the first alpha that is the procedure but its easy to do22:07
electricusi don't think it's available.. but that blog sounds like it is.. confusing22:07
electricusok.. i found it:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/22:08
wrstahh ok so it is electricus, you can start with it just as soon as 11.04 was released without the cd, think you just edit the soruces.lst like in debian22:10
electricusya. .but i'm just going to wait i think22:11
electricusi like 10.10 ok enough22:11
chris4585<wrst> electricus: if I'm not mistaken unity will use gtk 3 in 11.10 so you can run gnome 3  and unity side by side22:13
chris4585that is correct ^ its already possible in 11.1022:13
wrstyep chris458522:13
electricushmm is anyone in here using 11.10?22:13
electricusif so, how stable is it?22:13
chris4585electricus, its not even alpha 122:13
wrstmakes me want to go ahead and start using 11.10... i know officially we shoudl be calling it by its code name but i'm just going to say 11.10 :)22:13
chris4585I don't like its code name...22:14
wrstbut electricus generally things go... decent atleast with a few breakages22:14
wrstme either chris458522:14
chris4585sometime I think I will actually upgrade to 11.1022:14
wrstbut I don't like 11.04's interface so I will trade taht for a crappy code name22:14
chris4585lol22:16
chris4585I'm going to backup my stuff, then try and upgrade and I doubt it will go well but I have nothing to lose22:16
electricushaha.. i wouldn't even mess with it yet:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-daily-builds.html22:19
wrstchris4585, electricus up until atleast alpha 1 I would go with upgrading 11.0422:19
wrstIf i really wanted to try it22:19
electricus11.04 is fine except for compiz being a little buggy22:20
chris4585electricus, I think upgrading will result in something better, besides I'll do my own repairs22:21
electricuscould you upgrade to 11.04 without upgrading compiz?22:21
electricusi would do that if i could22:22
chris4585electricus, you can downgrade compiz in 11.04, I believe webupd8 did an article on that22:23
electricusok. cool22:23
chris4585it really annoys me about compiz... it seems with every release the default settings in compiz get crappier and crappier...22:24
chris4585before view port used to work flawlessly with no editing, so did zoom..22:25
Unit193Would you be looking for: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/get-emerald-to-work-in-ubuntu-1104.html ?22:30
chris4585Unit193, no I seem to remember there being a specific one for compiz22:31
chris4585it was either webupd8 or omgubuntu22:31
chris4585http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-downgrade-to-compiz-086-in.html22:32
chris4585Warning: the instructions below are for the classic Ubuntu desktop session. This will remove Unity! Further more, this is experimental (and reverting the changes is a bit complicated and may not work exactly as described in this post) so use it at your own risk!22:33
Unit193omgubuntu is a little to fanboy for me... (And a little annoying to the devs)22:33
cyberangerunit193 agreed22:35
Unit193They post a link to 64bit Lubuntu dev test (At best) And just about killed the guys server...22:39
chris4585well lubuntu is popular.. lol22:47
chris4585I think it deserves a bit more respect22:47
electricusthanks chris458523:06
chris4585electricus, np23:08
chris4585http://paste.ubuntu.com/615537/23:10
chris4585apparently to actually upgrade to the new release you have to do 'update-manager -d'23:13
chris4585figured gksu would have worked heh23:13

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