[00:50] <vychune> o/
[01:05] <Unit193> Howdy, vychune
[02:03] <cyberanger> chris4585: I think I've figured out how I'm gonna push out custom live disc images
[02:10] <wrst> hello cyberanger
[02:16] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[02:17] <cyberanger> I think I've figured out how I'm gonna push out custom live disc images, without hurting my own connection much
[02:17] <cyberanger> use some apache redirects and http://www.coralcdn.org/
[02:23] <cyberanger> down side is some setups call it a proxy avoidance tool
[02:23] <cyberanger> but that's what the torrents will help fix
[02:26] <cyberanger> goal is to allow access to it 90% of the time, to 90% of everyone
[02:26] <cyberanger> by budget makes that mark, then I'll be stunned
[02:38] <cyberanger> wrst: care for some openbox goodness in a few days
[02:40] <wrst> sure cyberanger :)
[02:41] <wrst> live cd or install ? I'm happy to do either
[02:41] <wrst> or both
[02:45] <vychune> o/
[02:46] <cyberanger> live for the moment
[02:46] <cyberanger> perhaps both down the road
[02:46] <wrst> cool cyberanger want to test in a VM or on real hardware?
[02:54] <cyberanger> I'm testing both, and planning to let anyone try it when I've got it on the server working
[02:54] <cyberanger> openbox geared to admin work, virus scans cheifly
[02:57] <cyberanger> but knowing me, it's any task that works better than windows, crammed as well as I can onto a 699MB cd
[02:57] <cyberanger> which is nearly all tasks I can think of ;-)
[03:00] <wrst> ha ha cool will be happy to try it out
[03:02] <cyberanger> I'd still like to get my mirror going, but I'm hoping this will help me learn some bandwidth management tricks
[03:03] <cyberanger> and learn a bit more about CDN's
[03:03] <cyberanger> not more theroy, but actual implementations
[03:04] <cyberanger> I got into linux for server knowlege, now I'm continuing down that road, always a new topic in linux
[03:04] <wrst> seems like the topics are limitless about like what you can do with it
[03:06] <cyberanger> exactly, it's like we've got all the flavors one could want, we just suggest everyone avoid the macintosh apple flavor, it's sorta stale
[03:26] <wrst> stale apples aren't good at all
[03:28]  * cyberanger wonders if wrst got the hidden joke in that
[03:28]  * cyberanger figures he did
[03:28] <wrst> :)
[03:29] <wrst> yep, cyberanger i'm heading to bed early I think catch you tomorrow
[03:33] <cyberanger> wrst: I ought to soon myself, lest I be tired at work
[03:33] <cyberanger> too tired, that is
[03:34] <wrst> same here, see you later cyberanger
[05:16] <Unit193> cyberanger: Added kon-boot to it?
[05:17] <cyberanger> kon-boot?
[05:18] <Unit193> It's nice if you're fixing windows computers (Login without knowing the pass. I'll get the site)
[05:18] <Unit193> http://www.piotrbania.com/all/kon-boot/
[05:18] <cyberanger> ah, usually just use chntpw
[05:19] <Unit193> That will kill the pass, this will only bypass
[05:20] <cyberanger> yeah, and I presume what it's doing (based on the linux tricks of similar nature) is sticking it in a chroot of sorts, and meddling with files
[05:20] <cyberanger> for windows, primarlly the Registry files, SAM for login authentication
[05:20] <cyberanger> sounds like one to add
[05:21] <Unit193> Sounds more like kernel ram mods
[05:21] <cyberanger> usually we just blank it, no point hiding that we got in and fixed it, less they try and hide our payday
[05:22] <cyberanger> that's another idea on how, there are a few ways
[05:25] <Unit193> I didn't know of any others that don't modify the system
[05:27] <Unit193> And I'll try it if you push it out...
[05:36] <cyberanger> just gotta get it done, it will be pushed out
[13:33] <wrst> chris4585: looks like lots of GNOME 3 extensions are starting to get out in the wild www.webupd8.org has a few blogs on them
[14:43] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[14:43] <Xpistos> Mornings
[14:49] <wrst> Xpistos: have a good weekend?
[14:49] <Xpistos> long
[14:49] <wrst> that's the glory of it isn't it?
[15:07] <vychune> good morning
[15:40] <Xpistos> hey vychune
[15:40] <vychune> how ya doing this morning
[15:47] <cyberanger> very well, thanks for asking vychune
[15:47] <cyberanger> haow about you?
[15:47] <vychune> finally youre doing good
[15:51] <cyberanger> fairly good ;-)
[15:51] <cyberanger> always leave room for improvement ;-)
[15:54] <vychune> ikr
[16:59] <Xpistos> #join /facebook
[16:59] <Xpistos> DUH!
[17:00] <vychune> nope im never making that mistake again
[17:07] <wrst> hey vychune, cyberanger
[17:08] <vychune> morning wrst
[17:21] <vychune> hows the bot
[17:53] <wrst> vychune: no time yet might mess with it today sometime :)
[17:58] <vychune> oh ok
[18:04] <cyberanger> lol Xpistos
[18:04] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[18:07] <wrst> cyberanger: how's it going?
[18:50] <cyberanger> wrst: busy, work
[18:51] <wrst> that's good cyberanger
[18:51] <wrst> same here
[18:57] <cyberanger> wrst: indeed good, however being busy is mixed
[18:57] <wrst> mixed?
[19:04] <cyberanger> quicker burnout
[19:04] <cyberanger> I can handle it, but deadline pressure isn't a nice pressure
[20:08] <wrst> its good for you cyberanger ;)
[21:12]  * vychune was just taught a good lesson
[21:16] <cyberanger> wrst: true
[21:24] <Unit193> wrst: What bot did you go with?
[21:24] <wrst> none yet :)
[21:47] <electricus> wrst: i'm using macbuntu 10.10 now
[21:47] <vychune> thats great
[21:47] <electricus> compiz is botched in the 11.04.. i'm going to wait for those bugs to be addressed
[21:47] <wrst> macubuntu... hmm something about that doesn't set well with me electricus
[21:47] <electricus> ..but other than that.. i like the unity desktop environment
[21:47] <electricus> haha
[21:47] <wrst> electricus: i'm waiting until gnome 3 is useable in ubuntu before I worry with it
[21:48] <wrst> I love gnome 3
[21:48] <electricus> Macbuntu:  http://www.oslike.se/
[21:48] <electricus> it's pretty..what can i say
[21:49] <electricus> some mac dudes at church were totally freaked out..haha
[21:49] <electricus> they were amazed was more like it
[21:49] <vychune> when did they get a iso
[21:49] <electricus> and then i showed them the software center and games you can download.. and said it was all free!  there eyes popped out.. LOL
[21:51] <electricus> i don't know.. i just saw it.. but the 11.04 is still quirky with the minimize effect (magic lamp) i've heard is related to the latest compiz and patent infringement on mac's minimize
[21:51] <electricus> geesh
[21:54] <wrst> electricus: I don't think 11.04 is really meant to be stable or to have all the kinks worked out I think its more to get it into the wild to get all the kinks found
[21:54] <electricus> hmm. it was just released last month right?
[21:54] <wrst> yes
[21:56] <electricus> it's pretty sweet.. they're copying mac osx pretty much except the dock is squares on the left
[21:57] <wrst> electricus: I don't really know if that is soemthing that I'm proud of or not, I'm really liking gnome 3
[21:58] <electricus> so what is the deal with gnome3?  is ubuntu going to ship with it in the future?
[21:58] <wrst> electricus: if I'm not mistaken unity will use gtk 3 in 11.10 so you can run gnome 3  and unity side by side
[21:59] <electricus> that's cool
[22:05] <wrst> electricus: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/gnome-shell-is-finally-available-in.html
[22:05] <electricus> can you download 11.10 now?
[22:05] <electricus> i guess not
[22:07] <wrst> electricus: you can possibly, or just install 11.04 and upgrade it
[22:07] <wrst> actually I think until the first alpha that is the procedure but its easy to do
[22:07] <electricus> i don't think it's available.. but that blog sounds like it is.. confusing
[22:08] <electricus> ok.. i found it:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:10] <wrst> ahh ok so it is electricus, you can start with it just as soon as 11.04 was released without the cd, think you just edit the soruces.lst like in debian
[22:11] <electricus> ya. .but i'm just going to wait i think
[22:11] <electricus> i like 10.10 ok enough
 electricus: if I'm not mistaken unity will use gtk 3 in 11.10 so you can run gnome 3  and unity side by side
[22:13] <chris4585> that is correct ^ its already possible in 11.10
[22:13] <wrst> yep chris4585
[22:13] <electricus> hmm is anyone in here using 11.10?
[22:13] <electricus> if so, how stable is it?
[22:13] <chris4585> electricus, its not even alpha 1
[22:13] <wrst> makes me want to go ahead and start using 11.10... i know officially we shoudl be calling it by its code name but i'm just going to say 11.10 :)
[22:14] <chris4585> I don't like its code name...
[22:14] <wrst> but electricus generally things go... decent atleast with a few breakages
[22:14] <wrst> me either chris4585
[22:14] <chris4585> sometime I think I will actually upgrade to 11.10
[22:14] <wrst> but I don't like 11.04's interface so I will trade taht for a crappy code name
[22:16] <chris4585> lol
[22:16] <chris4585> I'm going to backup my stuff, then try and upgrade and I doubt it will go well but I have nothing to lose
[22:19] <electricus> haha.. i wouldn't even mess with it yet:  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-daily-builds.html
[22:19] <wrst> chris4585, electricus up until atleast alpha 1 I would go with upgrading 11.04
[22:19] <wrst> If i really wanted to try it
[22:20] <electricus> 11.04 is fine except for compiz being a little buggy
[22:21] <chris4585> electricus, I think upgrading will result in something better, besides I'll do my own repairs
[22:21] <electricus> could you upgrade to 11.04 without upgrading compiz?
[22:22] <electricus> i would do that if i could
[22:23] <chris4585> electricus, you can downgrade compiz in 11.04, I believe webupd8 did an article on that
[22:23] <electricus> ok. cool
[22:24] <chris4585> it really annoys me about compiz... it seems with every release the default settings in compiz get crappier and crappier...
[22:25] <chris4585> before view port used to work flawlessly with no editing, so did zoom..
[22:30] <Unit193> Would you be looking for: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/get-emerald-to-work-in-ubuntu-1104.html ?
[22:31] <chris4585> Unit193, no I seem to remember there being a specific one for compiz
[22:31] <chris4585> it was either webupd8 or omgubuntu
[22:32] <chris4585> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-downgrade-to-compiz-086-in.html
[22:33] <chris4585> Warning: the instructions below are for the classic Ubuntu desktop session. This will remove Unity! Further more, this is experimental (and reverting the changes is a bit complicated and may not work exactly as described in this post) so use it at your own risk!
[22:33] <Unit193> omgubuntu is a little to fanboy for me... (And a little annoying to the devs)
[22:35] <cyberanger> unit193 agreed
[22:39] <Unit193> They post a link to 64bit Lubuntu dev test (At best) And just about killed the guys server...
[22:47] <chris4585> well lubuntu is popular.. lol
[22:47] <chris4585> I think it deserves a bit more respect
[23:06] <electricus> thanks chris4585
[23:08] <chris4585> electricus, np
[23:10] <chris4585> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615537/
[23:13] <chris4585> apparently to actually upgrade to the new release you have to do 'update-manager -d'
[23:13] <chris4585> figured gksu would have worked heh