[00:00] <tripelb> kingofswords, nerdshell -- I am not at all clear about using wildcards (king, that's the *) in the GUI.   (nerdshell, yes that's why I mentioned it.)  {yes I used to do helpdesk}
[00:00] <kingofswords> tripelb, omg your spot on ..thank you=)
[00:00] <eamon> How do I hard link to a youtube in a certain quality? I know you add &fmt=18 to the end for force 480p, how do I force 720 or 1080p?
[00:01] <tripelb> nerdshell, It might be good to know you. There's so much I want to know. Right now I'm trying to find out _which_ USB port/s is the 2.0 port on this old dell. lsusb just tells me that one is.
[00:01] <tripelb> kingofswords, You are welcome. anytime.
[00:02] <kingofswords> tripelb, isnt ur usb problem because the 2 at the front are just connected to the same connection as 2 of the back ones?
[00:02] <PoTe> eamon: youtube url's accept the hd=1 parameter, that you can use to force high definition, not sure if theres another one to force a specific resolution, this is probably not the right channel for that question :)
[00:03] <Jordan_U> tripelb: Do you have any USB drives? Try plugging one in and see if "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" proves enlightening.
[00:03] <eamon> PoTe, I got this from another chan:  http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2010/05/24/approximate-youtube-bitrates
[00:04] <tripelb> kingofswords, I have no idea. I can do a shell command (shell = bash = terminal = CLI = command line interface -- you get that explained once. haha) that tells me what's in the USB's. when I unplug some there are fewer lines. I have 8 slots on the computer. So which is the 2.0 and which are the 1.1 slots. U tell me!
[00:05] <tripelb> Jordan I did that if you will read the comment to king... 5 lines above I wont have to retype it.
[00:05] <kingofswords> tripelb, i mean the 2 at the front are soldered to the same place on the motherboard as 2 of the back ones
[00:05] <kingofswords> so infact you only really have 6 usb but 2 at front are kinda like extensions
[00:06] <tripelb> kingofswords, I have no idea. Is that the dell way? that would mean that I could have 4 2.0's -- I got a powered hub today (freegan!) and I want to make sure I plug it into the 2.0
[00:07] <kingofswords> tripelb,  freegan? you mean freecycle? thats cool site
[00:07] <nerdshell> tripelb: have a look here : http://superuser.com/questions/14076/ubuntu-how-to-tell-if-my-usb-ports-are-1-1-or-2-0
[00:08] <adda>  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[00:08] <tripelb> kingofswords, make sure you use tripelb every time. you can type trip and then a tab and that's called tab-completion and it will finish the typing -- yes  (and my local is mirrored on yahoo groups freecyclesantamonica so its not so aggravating to post as if I have to use their site)
[00:08] <adda> i get this when i try "sudo update-grub2", any idea?
[00:08] <tripelb> nerdshell looks brilliant. I should have could have googled!
[00:09] <tripelb> kingofswords, nerdshell told me this -
 tripelb: have a look here : http://superuser.com/questions/14076/ubuntu-how-to-tell-if-my-usb-ports-are-1-1-or-2-0
[00:09] <kingofswords> tripelb,  im in uk we use freeagle and freecycle
[00:09] <intx> what's the proper way to stop X?
[00:09] <intx> startx to startx..
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> intx, "sudo service gdm stop" is one method
[00:10] <intx> gdm: unrecognized service
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> intx, sorry try gdm3
[00:10] <nerdshell> tripelb: hope I helped, I have to go now , maybe you might add me to your buddies, so I could try helping whenever needed ;)
[00:10] <tripelb> kingofswords, if you want to talk about anything but ubuntu here --- dont. You can join #ubuntu-offtopic and I am there too. When you use my nick it turns blue and I know to go there.
[00:10] <gadgetdevil> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> gadgetdevil, outdated
[00:11] <kingofswords> ahh yeh
[00:11] <intx> i don't have gdm installed
[00:11] <tripelb> nerdshell, I dont know about buddies, how does that work. You can add me too. can we talk in #ubuntu-offtopic so I dont be a bad user!
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> intx, lol - i take it you aren't using Ubuntu.
[00:11] <gadgetdevil> ZykoticK9, depreciated? or doesn'
[00:11] <gadgetdevil> ZykoticK9, depreciated? or doesn't work at all
[00:11] <rewt> the word is deprecated, not depreciated
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> gadgetdevil, oh it works, isn't reallly deprecated either - just "outdated" ;)
[00:12] <intx> ZykoticK9: ubuntu server
[00:12] <intx> i installed X manually without a WM (i think)
[00:12] <qin> intx: So you should not have x
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> intx, ahhh.  So why do you have Xorg installed?  Use alt+sysrq+k to kill X then.
[00:12] <intx> i needed it to run use openCL
[00:12] <intx> *to use
[00:13] <rewt> intx, try ctrl-alt-backspace
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> rewt, deprecated ;)
[00:13] <intx> it's a headless machine :/
[00:13] <intx> i'm sshed into it
[00:13] <rewt> so how are you running X then?
[00:13] <kingofswords> im off too bye
[00:13] <intx> no idea really
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> intx, "killall Xorg" ???
[00:13] <intx> i just ran 'startx'
[00:13] <intx> and it's running :p
[00:14] <qin> intx: sudo service x<TAB> stop
[00:14] <intx> that's the only way? that's what i've been doing :P
[00:14] <Lobo29> I need some help to try and edit grub on my boot drive
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> intx, does it kill it?
[00:14] <puff> With amarok, how do I import files?
[00:14] <symptom> If I disable CUPS will I be able to print over usb?
[00:14] <intx> ZykoticK9: yeah that worked
[00:14] <Lobo29> i'm booted on LiveCD and don't know how to mount boot drive thru terminal
[00:15] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, do you know the device name (with USB probably remapping things to sda)?
[00:15] <rewt> mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[00:16] <ZykoticK9> rewt, sda is probably the USB
[00:16] <qin> Lobo29: sudo fdisk -l and mount * partition
[00:16] <cruciferous> i was using Natty on my dell laptop with intel 4965AGN wireless. worked great.  i reinstalled natty.  fresh start.  wireless wont work anymore.  it tries to work... but it wont connect successfully to WPA2.  its very odd. what did i do wrong?
[00:16] <DenverDave> Any good stuff on getting a Broadcom BCM4309 (Apparently Unsupported) working on 11.04 without having to muck with NDISWrapper?
[00:16] <Lobo29> i named the boot drive clonezilla, i can see it on the file system from live cd
[00:17] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, you "might" be able to mount using labels, but i don't have any defined to test...
[00:18] <sirgrifo> teste
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> sirgrifo, fail :)
[00:18] <Lobo29> rewt, i tried that, got mount point /mntsda1 does not  exist
[00:18] <tripelb1> I made "someone" my buddy in pidgin tho I dont understand what that means. heh
[00:18] <rewt> did yo miss a / ?
[00:19] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, in a terminal type "mount" and see if it's your USB that is sda (it probably is... just sayin')
[00:19] <sirgrifo> my pidgin in in IRC is too smal
[00:19] <sirgrifo> whem writing
[00:19] <symptom> !cups
[00:20] <qin> sirgrifo: Pidgin in not that good for irc, use irssi, or at least xchat.
[00:20] <nerdshell> intx: try using init 3
[00:20] <sirgrifo> just try to put all in on
[00:21] <nerdshell> intx: that will bring you back to the text line interface
[00:21] <birdmandont> I tried the ubuntu 10.04 LTS live cd, and my network worked just fine, After I installed it, i get no network connection :( any ideas?    wired connection, ive tried selecting in network manager, and running sudo dhclient eth0 (which shows a bunch of  offers and requests, but nothing connects)
[00:21] <Lobo29> rewt, maybe i missed.  what gin said - i got - /dev/sda1 = boot * , extended /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5
[00:22] <rewt> then that should work
[00:23] <Lobo29> rewt, i need to get to /etc/default on sda1 to edit grub there, but have more cli skills
[00:23] <squireboy> So, older nvidia cards do not work with 11.04?
[00:23] <Lobo29> *poor cli skills
[00:23] <rewt> mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 && cd /mnt/sda1/etc/default
[00:24] <qin> Lobo29: sudo mkdir /mnt/here && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/here
[00:24] <qin> Lobo29: enter for password
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> rewt, qin why make a subdirectory?  "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" done?
[00:24] <symptom> Hello, How do I set a service to NOT start at boot up?
[00:25] <qin> ZykoticK9: Yup
[00:25] <kescc> change Alt+F2 shortcut to the Right Windows key? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770970 Please take a look and see if you can help me? Thanks
[00:25] <qin> ZykoticK9: Unless he is willing to mount more.
[00:26] <gadgetdevil> symptom, you could make the startup script non-executable
[00:26] <DenverDave> Help with Wireless Broadcom Card BCM4309 needed.
[00:26] <symptom> gadgetdevil, isnt there a cleaner way?
[00:26] <ZykoticK9> symptom, there used to be...
[00:27] <Lobo29> rewt, is your reply all one line or does && mean another command line ?
[00:27] <symptom> DenverDave, sorry I have BCM57780.  had to install maverick backports
[00:27] <rewt> one line; && separates commands
[00:27] <rewt> but yeah, you probably need sudo in front of each cmd
[00:27] <symptom> !services
[00:27] <symptom> !service
[00:27] <qin> !upstart
[00:28] <symptom> !Upstart
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, just to be clear ".. && .. " means: after the first successfully completes, run the second.
[00:28] <symptom> is CUPS needed to print via USB?
[00:29] <ZykoticK9> symptom, most likely yes, cups is the print daemon of sorts.
[00:29] <symptom> So there is no way to print without listening on port 631.
[00:29] <symptom> or some other defined port for cups
[00:30] <DenverDave> k
[00:30] <qin> symptom: yes, edit cups config to listen on 127.0.0.1 or localhost (what it shoud do)
[00:30] <birdmandont> any reason why a network card works with 10.04 live cd but not when you install to disk?
[00:31] <qin> symptom: you can also change port.
[00:32] <DenverDave> I guess it's time to use this D600 Dell Laptop as target practice....
[00:33] <pedrocr> I'm getting some infrequent crashes in the intel X driver in natty
[00:33] <dforthman> DenverDave - What kind of card is it?
[00:33] <Lobo29> Sorry, not getting too far, /dev/sda1 is mounted but I cannot change to /etc/default folder
[00:33] <qin> DenverDave: lol, for a slingshot?
[00:33] <pedrocr> I haven't found a relevant bug report in the database, normally I'd just run "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-intel" but that now makes me swear I've gone through support first
[00:34] <DenverDave> Broadcom BCM4309 - Searched around and it says its unsupported by some links.
[00:34] <pedrocr> what is the correct bug report procedure now? This seems like a regression in natty
[00:34] <qin> Lobo29: you need sudo to edit files too.
[00:34] <KM0201> DenverDave: the 4309 works fine...
[00:34] <DenverDave> Tried fwcutter etc...
[00:34] <Jordan_U> !bugs | pedrocr
[00:34] <DenverDave> Mine says it comes up and is running.  But can not get a list of wireless SSIDs.
[00:34] <dforthman> DenverDave - Have you tried installing the backports?
[00:35] <Lobo29> qin, yes, but i need to edit grub and can't seem to get there
[00:35] <pedrocr> Jordan_U, that's what I did, but now it sends me to go get technical support
[00:35] <rww> pedrocr: "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-intel" should be fine. Just click through the dialogs.
[00:35] <KM0201> DenverDave: wait, did you say 4309?
[00:35] <pedrocr> rww, ok
[00:35] <DenverDave> OK, that's new to me.. "Backports".
[00:35] <DenverDave> Yes BCM4309. Rel 2
[00:35] <Lobo29> qin, i'm stuck at root@ubuntu
[00:36] <KM0201> never heard the 4309, regardless, the b43 driver should work...
[00:36] <KM0201> DenverDave: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:36] <Trfsrfr> why is my cpu usage 100% and barely anything running?
[00:36] <DenverDave> It's a dual band card.  802.11a/b/g.
[00:36] <ZykoticK9> Trfsrfr, what is using the 100%?  You can use "top" in cli to verify.
[00:36] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: cuz one of the things running is hogging your resources
[00:36] <DenverDave> Version 11.09 Unbuntu.
[00:36] <KM0201> DenverDave: ok, and how did you try to install the b43 driver?
[00:36] <Lobo29> rewt, i tried adding sudo to your commands,  it tells me sda1 is mounted, but i can't move past that
[00:36] <qin> Lobo29: cab you drop from root and cd to /mnt?
[00:37] <Trfsrfr> right...
[00:37] <qin> can*
[00:37] <Guest60399> wacom wont reconize
[00:37] <DenverDave> I installed unbuntu fresh off of CD.
[00:37] <birdmandont> any reason why a network card works with 10.04 live cd but not when you install to disk?
[00:37] <qin> Lobo29: And ls
[00:37] <KM0201> DenverDave: i understand that, you said "fwcutter didn't work" how did you try to install it?
[00:37] <DenverDave> Looks like it was on, but running the scan option says unsupported.
[00:37] <Lobo29> qin, cd /mount gives me   no such file or directory
[00:37] <rewt> /mnt is not the same as /mount
[00:37] <qin> Lobo29: Ah, cd /mnt
[00:38] <KM0201> DenverDave: what do you mean "running the scan option says unsupported"
[00:38] <DenverDave> I ran the apt-get install fwcutter installer
[00:38] <Lobo29> Yes, i got /mnt# now
[00:38] <squireboy> anyone running an nvidia FX series card with 11.04 with any success?  This stinks
[00:38] <Trfsrfr> ZykoticK9, 348 root 17.5%
[00:38] <qin> Lobo29: ls -l
[00:38] <KM0201> DenverDave: is the machine connected to the internet (via a non-wireless connection)
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> Trfsrfr, 17.5% is a LOT less then 100%
[00:39] <Lobo29> qin, sorry, -l ?
[00:39] <rewt> -l
[00:39] <houb> ubuntu 10.04 wacom wont install  CTH-460/k pen &touch
[00:39] <DenverDave> sudo iwlist scan
[00:39] <squireboy> how do I roll back to Maverick?
[00:39] <qin> Lobo29: yes, long to see onwers and permissions
[00:39] <rewt> Lobo29, or you can try ll (double lower case L)
[00:39] <Trfsrfr> ZykoticK9, yeah I know, its just the highest rated one on the list, but my icon on the bottom taskbar shows 100% usage.
[00:39] <KM0201> DenverDave: does the machine have internet access that is not wireless access or not?
[00:39] <DenverDave> Says:  wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[00:39] <hargino> do usb sticks work on ubuntu?
[00:40] <tensorpudding> hargino: yes
[00:40] <KM0201> DenverDave: thats because the device doesn't work.... that has nothing to do w/ ubuntu not supporting the device
[00:40] <DenverDave> I'm on the machine using a "Wired" connection now.
[00:40] <ZykoticK9> Trfsrfr, sorry - I have no idea.
[00:40] <Trfsrfr> no worries
[00:40] <qin> squireboy: Reinstall should be fastest way.
[00:40] <KM0201> DenverDave: first, type this  sudo apt-get update   and let that run
[00:40] <DenverDave> k
[00:40] <hargino> i plug my pendrive in and it doesn't even let me look at the files
[00:40] <houb> nts config is cool
[00:40] <squireboy> qin> can I do that from command line?
[00:40] <Lobo29> rewt, ll worked , got huge listing
[00:41] <rewt> does it look like the root of your hard drive?
[00:41] <DenverDave> Running......
[00:41] <DenverDave> Done....
[00:41] <squireboy> qin> I don't think nvidia X series cards work with 11.04
[00:41] <Lunixia> anyone know how to make a driver "currently in use" my driver message says that "this driver is active but not currently in use" - ive tried reinsalling drivers as well as several sudo commands and no luck :(
[00:41] <squireboy> qin> maybe time for another distro
[00:41] <Lobo29> rewt, yes, i see grub listed there
[00:41] <KM0201> DenverDave: now   sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer    if it asks you to download/extract the firmware, choose yes
[00:42] <DenverDave> k
[00:42] <squireboy> qin> this is too muc trouble
[00:42] <qin> squireboy: For drivers best are rolling disrtros, gentoo?
[00:42] <ZykoticK9> Lunixia, there is a bug about that not being reported correctly.  Is the driver actually in use?  "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and see 'kernel driver in use' to find the reality.
[00:42] <qin> squireboy: Or ubuntu LTS
[00:43] <Lunixia> k will try that
[00:43] <squireboy> qin> UGH  LOL
[00:44] <squireboy> qin> I know someone must have this working
[00:44] <qin> squireboy: Also you could test native driver, as they have more and more to say.
[00:44] <MattyLad> Hi, just come back to say I followed the link and have installed Ubuntu...yayyyyy! :)
[00:44] <KM0201> DenverDave: is it working?
[00:44] <rgoytacaz> Can anyone help me getting my nvidia card to work? I completely removed all nvidia related stuff, reinstalled, looking at Additional drivers, it says its activated but not in use, I ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted, but it doesn't boot up anymore.
[00:45] <Lunixia> ah ok it says its in use but the capabilities section says <access denied>
[00:46] <ZykoticK9> Lunixia, I see the same thing here - don't think that's an issue.
[00:46] <DenverDave> OK, thats installed OK.
[00:46] <squireboy> qin> Holy cow.  I stated in FailSafe graphic mode and restated and X and there is my GUI and USer login in?
[00:46] <KM0201> DenverDave: now, go to system/admin/additional driers (or if you're using unity, search for additional driers) and open it
[00:46] <squireboy> qin> what the???
[00:46] <DenverDave> How do I confirm that it's working.
[00:46] <nexace> how can i encrypt a password at command line?
[00:46] <qin> rgoytacaz: remove driver, reboot, make sure you use nouveau, update.
[00:46] <KM0201> DenverDave: once in additional drivers, do you see 'b43' there?
[00:47] <squireboy> qin> seems like a "Unity" issues?
[00:47] <Lunixia> here is why it concerns me - back in 9.10 I was able to play games via wine and my card was recognized, nowwhen i try to play games via wine my card is recognized as a PoS card so my settings are limited
[00:47] <rgoytacaz> qin: whats nouveau?
[00:47] <Lunixia> thats the only thing im confused about
[00:47] <qin> rgoytacaz: Open source sriver for nvidia
[00:48] <novascousa> Hi all - installed ubuntu as my first linux experience about a month ago and have really enjoyed it - so much that I'd like to get rid of my windows xp dual boot situation.. does anyone have time to answer a couple questions about it though?
[00:48] <ZykoticK9> !ask | novascousa
[00:48] <rgoytacaz> qin: sudo apt-get install nouveau?
[00:48] <qin> rgoytacaz: Are you natty?
[00:48] <Lobo29> Did my edit, trying reboot to see if fixed
[00:49] <rgoytacaz> qin: 11.04
[00:49] <KM0201> DenverDave: did you get lost?
[00:49] <qin> rgoytacaz: What card?
[00:49] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, if you changed something in /etc/default/grub you need to do a proper chroot and run update-grub2 in order for any changes to take effect...
[00:50] <Lobo29> zykotick9, i did update-grub2
[00:50] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, in a chroot?  --- well see if it works.
[00:50] <nexace> how can i encrypt a string at command line?
[00:51] <DenverDave> brb
[00:51] <KM0201> DenverDave: ?  are you still here
[00:51] <DenverDave> system hanging....
[00:51] <DenverDave> :(
[00:51] <dforthman> nexace - what?
[00:51] <rgoytacaz> qin: trying to figure it out, its something M, sec.
[00:51] <KM0201> DenverDave: were you able to activate the 43 driver?
[00:51] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9: no, from where i made the edit, i was following a fix i read online, but didn't help
[00:51] <KM0201> DenverDave: if not, just restart
[00:51] <qin> rgoytacaz: lspci
[00:51] <novascousa> I have dualboot windows xp and ubuntu 11.04 (2D).. ideally, i'd like to wipe out windows xp, and have a fresh re-install of ubuntu as the only OS (as it was my first time using linux and I think I've messed up some stuff).. can I just use the ubuntu live USB to overwrite everything or do I need to do some partition work?
[00:52] <rgoytacaz> qin: 310m
[00:52] <KM0201> DenverDave: how much ram does this system have?.. might have been wise to go w/ one of the "lighter" Ubuntu's rather than using unity on a machine that old
[00:52] <nexace> dforthman: what command line program will allow me to encrypt a password or some other string?
[00:52] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9: still get   Cannot display this video mode at point ubuntu should start booting
[00:52] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, see the !grub2 factoid's link for instructions on chrooting from a LiveCD, then update the file (if not already), then run update-grub2
[00:52] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, your change probably wasn't applied!
[00:53] <KM0201> novascousa: the USB should be able to handle it.. but just make sure you are absolutely prepared to not have windows... if you think you might need windows, just partition the drive, and make windows smaller, and just reinstall ubuntu
[00:53] <qin> rgoytacaz: Gforce? can you give me whole name?
[00:53] <dforthman> nexace - Let me make sure I understand. You want to type something similar to "encrypt p4ssw0rd" and it output "EncryptedPassword" correct?
[00:53] <nexace> right
[00:53] <rgoytacaz> qin: sorry, yes GForce 310M
[00:54] <KM0201> novascousa: if no other machine in the house has Windows, it's usually pretty smart to at least have Windows accessible in some manner in case it is absolutely needed (ie, virtual machine or another machine has windows, etc.)
[00:54] <ZykoticK9> novascousa, a LiveUSB install with "Use Entire Disk" would work fine to wipe everything off.
[00:54] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: so thats what "use entire disk" means? ")
[00:54] <KM0201> :)
[00:54] <nexace> dforthman: yes that is correct
[00:55] <MattyLad> I am trying to install wine, but it says at http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu  to Open the Software Sources menu by going to Applications->Ubuntu Software Center, then selecting Edit->Software Sources but I cannot find this?
[00:55] <novascousa> KM0201: It's for my netbook - I have other pcs running windows so no worries. Zykotick9: so there won't be any problems even though partitions and ubuntu already exist on the system?
[00:55] <novascousa> also - thanks!
[00:55] <ZykoticK9> novascousa, that "use entire disk" will delete all current partitions
[00:55] <KM0201> novascousa: no.. if you tell it to take the entire drive, it doesn't matter whats on the drive, it uses the whole disk..
[00:56] <qin> rgoytacaz: Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6592005
[00:56] <Bagatelle> i need help to connect to tor, vidalia says its connected, the website says it is not
[00:57] <novascousa> Zykotick9, KM0201: perfect - just wanted to make sure. Thanks and have a good evening
[00:58] <dforthman> nexace - Dunno. All I can find is file encryption, not plaintext->encrypted programs
[00:59] <b1g1r0n> hello collective wisdom... for some reason, the ctrl + alt + t shortcut to start a terminal seems to have ceased working. Any thoughts on where to look?
[00:59] <KM0201> b1g1r0n: probably in keyboard shortcuts?
[00:59] <ivs> you can setup a new terminal window keyboard shortcut in "Keyboard Shortcuts" Pref
[01:00] <dforthman> b1g1r0n - Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:00] <DenverDave> Finally back...  Windows Control died, couldn't shutdown gracefully...   Mouse pointer ok but button wouldn't activate the buttons.
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> b1g1r0n, KM0201 ivs - thanks, now I have a CTRL+ALT+T shortcut, handy :)
[01:01] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: :)
[01:01] <b1g1r0n> thanks all!
[01:01] <KM0201> DenverDave: ok, go to system/admin/additional drivers, and see if you see "b43" there
[01:02] <compdoc> how do you run users-admin as su?
[01:02] <DenverDave> The additional drivers doesn't show anything.
[01:02] <KM0201> hmm.
[01:02] <qin> compdoc: Forgot su, sudo -i
[01:02] <sparr> How can I add "Guest Session" as an option when my screen is locked, so that other people can use my computer when I'm afk?
[01:02] <ZykoticK9> compdoc, "gksu users-admin" should work
[01:02] <KM0201> DenverDave: did you get a message to "extract the firmware" when you installed b43?
[01:03] <ZykoticK9> qin, users-admin appears to be a GUI app - gksu is more appropriate
[01:03] <DenverDave> I don't think so.
[01:03] <KM0201> ok.
[01:03] <DenverDave> Shall i "remove' and retry?
[01:03] <compdoc> ZykoticK9, when I run that or gksudo, I get the users-admin window, but all options are dimmed
[01:03] <qin> ZykoticK9: Yes, just realised, silly idea to have it in gui.
[01:04] <KM0201> DenverDave: you can try.. somethng is going on w/ your setup.. not really sure what it is... that really should have worked
[01:04] <qin> compdoc: Right, user-admin and unlock button
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> compdoc, sorry - i don't have that issue (but i'm not on ubuntu)
[01:05] <compdoc> qin, no unlock button
[01:06] <qin> compdoc: You will be prompt for password if you try to adduser
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> compdoc, FYI it took probably around 10-15 seconds to undim when i used gksu
[01:06] <compdoc> qin, no buttons work
[01:06] <qin> compdoc: are you sudoer?
[01:07] <DenverDave> Installation Session is here...   http://paste.ubuntu.com/615131/
[01:07] <qin> compdoc: if yes (your user is in admin group), just users-admin (no su sudo gksudo etc)
[01:08] <KM0201> DenverDave: looks right
[01:08] <DenverDave> There was nothing about extracting anything.
[01:10] <Bagatelle> tor help please
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> qin, just FYI (not related to present support) starting users-admin as a member of admin (sudo) vs starting with "gksu users-admin" resulted in slightly different results on my system
[01:12] <DaveInTucson> Is there a way to access CDROM volume title from a Perl script (command line tool or something)? (Sorry if this Q is not appropriate for this forum; have been utterly unsuccessful in searching for an answer)
[01:13] <qin> ZykoticK9: gksu users-admin just froze on my system, you would want to inspect launche (drag item from menu to desktop and right-click))
[01:13] <KM0201> DenverDave: it looks ilke it extracted it... just looing at the paste
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> qin, i don't really see a use for users-admin
[01:14] <sidhe> Hi, here's my problem: I installed Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) cos it's the only version iso that would work on my Win7 machine.  Problem is, I'm living in a residential hotel and they have ethostream wi-fi and for someodd reason I can't get Ubuntu to recognize the ethostream wi-fi.  Help please?
[01:14] <qin> DaveInTucson: volname
[01:14] <jhine> hello. sorry for typos im on my phone. im having network issues where ubuntu requires a firmware update to use wireless so ive connected it wired. however it is not letting me access the router even though i have it set as auto dhcp? im a newbie. any ideas?
[01:15] <DaveInTucson> thanks, qin.  exactly what I wanted :-)
[01:15] <sidhe> anyone please help?
[01:18] <coz_> sidhe,  that's a tough one,, I dont think I can help h owever,, if no one here can,, try ##linux channel as well
[01:18] <sidhe> electric unclesam?
[01:18] <dooglus> I just got my old laptop working again.  it has 10.04 on it.  can I upgrade to 11.04 immediately, or do I have to update 10.04, then go step by step?
[01:18] <sidhe> ok
[01:18] <sidhe> thanx coz_
[01:18] <gabriellhrn> hi there. I'm having some problems while installing dropbox. I don't know if here's the right place to ask about it... can someone help me?
[01:19] <vertas52> there are too many bugs in 11.04/ stay on LTS
[01:19] <qin> vertas52: And thiswas ment to?
[01:20] <rewt> looks like to dooglus
[01:20] <dooglus> rewt: sory?
[01:20] <DenverDave> I just jumped onto Broadcom's site and it doesn't look like they even acknowledge that card at all.
[01:20] <rewt> dooglus: <vertas52> there are too many bugs in 11.04/ stay on LTS
[01:20] <dooglus> I like 11.04
[01:20] <dooglus> my question is about how to get there from here
[01:20] <DenverDave> Looks like the onlything I can find on it is the news released in 2002.  LOL
[01:20] <KM0201> DenverDave: yea, i've never heard of the 4309
[01:21] <KM0201> DenverDave: are you sure it's a 4309
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[01:21] <qin> dooglus: Yes you can jump to Natty, but need to change settings in synaptic to see nonLTS relases.
[01:21] <dooglus> qin: I use apt-get to update
[01:22] <Polah> dooglus: From what I understand you'd need to upgrade to 10.10 then 11.04
[01:22] <sidhe> does anyone know how to access ethostream in a wi-fi situation with Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:22] <DenverDave> I can get the dmesg if you'd like.
[01:22] <andreb> hi
[01:22] <KM0201> dooglus: are you using 10.10
[01:22] <andreb> bc u here
[01:22] <yuyan> i usu 10.04
[01:22] <KM0201> dooglus: if you're using 10.04, you need to upgrade to 10.10, thne upgrade 10.10 to 11.04
[01:22] <dooglus> qin: go straight there.  Polah: don't go straight there.  KM0201: are you halfway there already?
[01:22] <dooglus> I'm on 10.04 now
[01:23] <yuyan> 10.04 is good
[01:23] <dooglus> and my 10.04 is out of date - do I need to update it first before going to 10.10?
[01:23] <DenverDave> DMESG:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/615133/
[01:23] <KM0201> dooglus: ok, then you need to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10, then on to 11.04.. you cannot skip relesaes, unless you upgrade an LTS, to the next LTS>
[01:23] <Polah> dooglus: Like I said, you need to upgrade to 10.10 then 11.04. You can't skip over 10.10
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: wy, 10.04 is fully supported until after 11.04 is EOL
[01:23] <vertas52> is there any backtrack channel?
[01:23] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: that wasn'treally hi question
[01:23] <KM0201> !backtrack
[01:23] <Amm0n> hi, anyone can tell me how to add a location to the gnome-weather-applet in natty?
[01:23] <rww> vertas52: #backtrack-linux
[01:23] <Name141> How good is the "Black Screen" on a CRT for a screen saver?  Don't I really want colors and stuff flashing about for it?
[01:23] <vertas52> thx
[01:24] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: he wanted to upgrade 10.04, to 11.04, and someone said he could do it directly.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[01:24] <rww> Name141: a black screen will work fine to prevent monitor burnin, if that's what you're worring about
[01:24] <Name141> rww: Yeah that was it.
[01:24] <kescc> change Alt+F2 shortcut to the Right Windows key? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770970 Please take a look and see if you can help me? Thanks
[01:24] <Polah> Amm0n, right click your clock, go to Prefences > Location tab > Add
[01:25] <KM0201> dooglus: i'd just backup and clean install 11.04.. you'll feel better about it in the long run.. :)
[01:25] <dantheman73> Hey guys this is my first time using ubuntu i just got it on my computer'
[01:25] <DenverDave> That dmesg is showing 4306...   I guess its time to shutdown and open this thing up....
[01:25] <dantheman73> i was wondering;l how do I use my webcame and get skype?
[01:25] <andreb> anyone good with bind ?
[01:25] <dantheman73> *webcam
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> dantheman73: welcome to ubuntu:)
[01:25] <Amm0n> Polah, this works only for locations that are already in the list.. i want to add a new one
[01:25] <MagicJ> I have a 10.04 system that when I log on tells me, from the motd file that I have updates to install.  However, when I run apt-get it tells me that I am up-to-date.  How do I fix this
[01:25] <RevSpecies116> dooglus: If you have the patience [as I am doing], you could wait to get your hands on Unity till April next year when the next LTS is due
[01:26] <sagaci> dantheman73, install cheese and see if it works withh that
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> dantheman73: does it work with cheese?
[01:26] <sidhe> how do I access ethostream using Ubuntu 10.04? it's the only version that would install off the iso file on my win7 machine
[01:26] <dooglus> RevSpecies116: I don't use unity
[01:26] <dantheman73> cheese? ok thanks
[01:26] <qin> dooglus: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1526-how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1010-to-ubuntu-1104-natty-desktop-a-server
[01:26] <dantheman73> Im sorry im not sure what cheese is so I havent tried it yet; I will right now
[01:26] <Polah> dantheman73: Open a terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal OR Ctrl+Alt+T) and do sudo apt-get install skype, then type your password and hit enter. Enter "y" when it prompts you and it'll automatically install Skype. Your webcam may or may not work with Ubuntu, it depends on drivers and you'd be better off asking someone else for that.
[01:26] <raelos> cheese is actually a really fun program
[01:26] <KM0201> MagicJ: are you running apt-get update  or apt-get upgrade
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> dantheman73: install it and run it
[01:27] <RevSpecies116> Oh, dooglus , then 11.04 may be your last Ubuntu use before moving to another varient - Unity will be the only choice for Ubuntu in 11.10
[01:27] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: i thought 11.10 was also gonna have gnome 3 available?
[01:27] <RevSpecies116> Only from the repo's, KM0201
[01:27] <MagicJ> KM0201: I have done update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[01:27] <Polah> Amm0n: It only lists major cities and suchlike I think. You could pick the one nearest to you, weather won't be that different if it's within a few miles. Alternately, adding the lat/long co-ordinates might do the trick.
[01:27]  * KM0201 switched to Lubuntu... 
[01:28] <dooglus> RevSpecies116: I doubt they'll remove xfce4 will they?
[01:28] <KM0201> MagicJ: ok, and if not of those called fo rupgrades, why do you think they're an upgrade you need?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: lubuntu rocks :)
[01:28] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i like it a lot.. it actually caused me to come back to ubuntu.
[01:28] <Polah> RevSpecies116, well it's not that much of a hassle to install GNOME after install 11.10. Surely if you're upgrading from 11.04 you'd still have GNOME as well?
[01:28] <sidhe> does lubuntu install on a windows machine?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> lubuntu+unity2d
[01:29] <raelos> \      through wubi yes
[01:29] <MagicJ> KM0201: that;s the point - update-motd is setting the message into the motd file - why?
[01:29] <KM0201> sidhe: lubuntu installs just like ubuntu... i wouldn't use wubi.
[01:29] <sidhe> I'l have to look that up raelos, thanx, KM0201
[01:29] <KM0201> MagicJ: dunno, i wouldn't worry about it.
[01:29] <Polah> sidhe: Lubuntu is just Ubuntu. It's an operating system, not a program. You can install it within Windows with Wubi, but I (and many others) would recommend giving it its own partition.
[01:29] <zambz> hi, I've just bought a Wireless USB N adapter so I can get wifi internet on this computer,
[01:29] <zambz> is there a way to get it working in Ubunt 9.10 ?
[01:29] <sidhe> thanx Polah
[01:29] <raelos> what brand, zambz
[01:29] <zambz> its a d-link Wireless N USB adapter
[01:29] <KM0201> zamba: 9.10?... it's already EOL... what type of adapter?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> wubi is full of anoyances
[01:30] <MagicJ> KM0201: nbot criticizing you but I don't like that type of anwswer - especially simnce it tells me that there are 12 security upgrades
[01:30] <dantheman73> ok im downloading Cheese Im going to do that open terminal and search for skype. thank you
[01:30] <sidhe> will lubuntu be able to detect ethostream wi-fi?
[01:30] <Amm0n> Polah, ty but tried this before.. also tried to edit Locations.xml but there are only US cities listed in there..
[01:30] <KM0201> sidhe: it has the same kernel as Ubuntu, so it will detect the same hardware, as ubuntu.
[01:30] <Polah> sidhe: What I meant to say is that it's Ubuntu with a different (non-default) desktop environment. Ubuntu uses Unity or Gnome, Xubuntu uses XFCE, I'm don't recall the name of what Lubuntu uses and there's a few others too
[01:30] <raelos> sidhe, not sure, but it's worth a shot
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> zambz: karmic is no longer supported in any way
[01:30] <sidhe> ok, thanx
[01:30] <RevSpecies116> dooglus: if you are after xfce4, Xubuntu is for you :)
[01:31] <KM0201> zamba: dlink makes a lot of wireless n usb adapters, whats the model?
[01:31] <zambz> ActionParsnip, is it safe to do an upgrade with the update manager
[01:31] <zambz>  ?
[01:31] <RevSpecies116> I call the other *buntu's as variants, not distro's
[01:31] <RevSpecies116> Distro change makes it sound like going from Ubuntu to Fedora
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> !eol
[01:31] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: technically, thats what they are.... thats what i agree w/ you.
[01:31] <Polah> Amm0n: Mine shows major cities globally. I can't help you with it if it's not showing anything apart from US cities. Could you be your locale settings.
[01:32] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9: you still there ?
[01:32] <zambz> what happens if I continue to run 9.10 ?
[01:32] <KM0201> zambz: you're using ubuntu 9.10  you need to do some significant upgrading, if not clean install a current version, before trying to get this adapter working
[01:32] <zambz> my other computer has 9.10, but I don
[01:32] <raelos> zambz, nothing really, just can't runt he latest hardware or software
[01:32] <KM0201> zamba: depends, you won't get updates/security updates anymore.
[01:32] <Polah> Zambz: 9.10 is no longer supported. You'll be behind on software and hardware, but apart from that there's nothing wrong with sticking to it.
[01:32] <zambz> ok
[01:33] <zambz> yeah might as well stick with it
[01:33] <KM0201> Polah: i'd disagree... there could be security issues that come about, that will not be updated
[01:33] <dksoba88ucsd> I have a fresh install of 10.10 which my program compiles on fine (using CMake). On a not-fresh 11.04 it does not compile correctly, giving errors about a library. How can I compare the libraries being used on two different installations of Linux?
[01:33] <Polah> Zambz: Of course, in your case it would probably be best to backup and reinstall else you'll have to go through three upgrades which could probably take a few hours each
[01:33] <KM0201> that's bad advice
[01:33] <Polah> KM0201: That's a good point, actually. If a security issue does come up it won't be officially fixed.
[01:34] <raelos> if i place a script in ~ as ~/conv.sh   and run it as   sh ~/conv.sh file.avi   (and the script lists the argument as $1) will it look for the file in the pwd or in the ~ folder?
[01:34] <KM0201> Polah: chances are, it won't even be unofficially fixed.. depending on what the bug is.
[01:34] <KM0201> or the issue is
[01:34] <KM0201> zambz: you should really get w/ a current release...
[01:35] <Polah> KM0201: Indeed. It's possible but not likely. It is almost two years old now, although official support only stopped a few months ago.
[01:35] <Polah> Zambz: I agree with KM0201, upgrade to 10.04 at the very least.
[01:35] <zambz> KM0201, I would like to but the computer at my house runs a nvidia geforce 6700 or something and the last time I tried it was not supported
[01:35] <kescc> how can i use xbindkeys to change the "run program" shortcut Alt+F2, to the Right Super key instead?
[01:35] <zambz> anymore
[01:36] <zambz> this was like 1 year ago when I first tried upgrading to 10.04
[01:36] <KM0201> zamba: i don't see why it wouldn't be.. i've got a 7300 that works fine... iirc, the 6x,7x,8x, used the same driver
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, am now.
[01:36] <Polah> Zambz: Take an image of your system, back it up somewhere and try upgrading. If it fails then you can just put the image back up and revert
[01:37] <TrD> hi all
[01:37] <raelos> hey TrD
[01:37] <TrD> hi raelos
[01:37] <roasted> how do I get a listing of all /dev/video devices on my system?
[01:37] <rewt> ls /dev/video*
[01:37] <TrD> anyone can tell me if Honeysnap cant be installed on Ubuntu please
[01:37] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9:  can you provide more info on !grub2 factoid you mentioned ?  had to run away earlier and fix dinner :O
[01:37] <TrD> *can be
[01:37] <KM0201> TrD: why could it "not" be installed?
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 | Lobo29
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, it's the "For more info.. and troubleshooting" link ;)
[01:38] <Bagatelle> how do I connect, in xchat to 127.0.0.1 port 6668?
[01:38] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, it details chrooting fairly early on
[01:38] <raelos> I've actually become a big fan of Burg
[01:38] <KM0201> TrD: there is not a honey snap in the default repos.. unless its under another name, so it woul dhave to be compiled from source
[01:39] <TrD> KM0201 sorry ,  im looking for tutorial on how to install  Honeysnap
[01:39] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9: excellent, ty
[01:39] <raelos> I think Honeysnap has a PPA. do a quick google
[01:39] <dooglus> update-manager -d seems happy to let me upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 without making sure 10.04 is up-to-date with its patches first - is that safe to do?
[01:39] <TrD> can i add repos from the svn link ? (https://projects.honeynet.org/svn/honeysnap/trunk) KM0201
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Bagatelle: add the ip as the server
[01:40] <root> any1 here know how to hack a website?
[01:40] <KM0201> TrD: i guess you could.. dunno never tried to install it.
[01:40] <Polah> TrD: You could download everything from their SVN directory and compile it/install it yourself. If you can find a PPA for it then you could set that up and install it through there
[01:40] <KM0201> Guest1064: go play elsewhere
[01:41] <Polah> TrD: Consider this: https://projects.honeynet.org/svn/honeysnap/trunk/INSTALL
[01:41] <TrD> thanks Polah  i wanna try
[01:41] <TrD> thanks KM0201
[01:42] <raymondjtoth2> !part
[01:42] <raymondjtoth2> !welcome
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: yu nee to edit etc/update-manager/release-upgrades 
[01:42] <roasted> how do I get a listing of all /dev/video devices on my system?
[01:43] <Jace31> im have trouble getting internet going on the ubuntu
[01:43] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Why would he need to do that?
[01:43] <Polah> Jace31: Wireless?
[01:43] <dibs> I need a god. I just accidentally chowned a little bit of / as www-data
[01:43] <Jace31> yes
[01:43] <raymondjtoth2> i borught jace31 he is new here he having prob lem on old build of uubuntu getting online
[01:43] <raymondjtoth2> any oen care to help him
[01:43] <andreb> hi ll
[01:43] <Polah> dibs: That's why you have sudo to set the owner properly
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Polah: itsso the updater doesnt expectlts upgrade
[01:43] <andreb> can anyone help me with a BIND9 error ?
[01:43] <dibs> Polah?
[01:44] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I think you misread my question
[01:44] <dibs> Polah: I was using sudo?
[01:44] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Is he GUI-less? If not he can just go to Update Manager and then change the settings to normal releases.
[01:44] <dibs> So is there anyway to recover from a chown accident?
[01:44] <raymondjtoth2> i borught jace31 he is new here he having prob lem on old build of uubuntu getting online [19:42] <raymondjtoth2> any oen care to help him
[01:44] <Polah> Dibs: Yeah you just use sudo to change it back. sudo chown <proper owner> <directory>
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: i you want to upgrade off of lucid, then yes
[01:44] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[01:45] <dooglus> I don'tneed to change the default setting.  I just want to know whether I need to update 10.04 with its security updates, etc. before going to 10.10
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Polah: iys the gui way, waaaay easier
[01:45] <Polah> !repeat | raymondjtoth2
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> dooglus, "update-manager -d" the "-d" means development, thus should try to take you to 11.10 - are you sure that's what you want?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> cli way sorry
[01:45] <dooglus> ZykoticK9: it takes me to 10.10
[01:45] <dibs> I have listed all folders that have the www-data owner but I am not sure if I should just make all folders that aren't in my home set to owner root? is there a rule of thumb?
[01:45] <ZykoticK9> dooglus, are you sure about that?
[01:45] <dooglus> ZykoticK9: I'm on 10.04 now - you can't go more than one step at a time - but that's beside the point
[01:46] <dooglus> ZykoticK9: as sure as eggs is eggs
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> dooglus, my point is "update-manager -d" is NOT what you want
[01:46] <Jace31> im here
[01:46] <Polah> dooglus: sudo do-release-upgrade should run update manager to upgrade to the next available stable release. You shouldn't need to run dist-upgrade to update current packages before running do-release-upgrade to upgrade distribution but you can if you want
[01:46] <dibs> Polah: Do you know if I can make everything root except my home folder?
[01:46] <onats> what utility can i use to record screencasts?
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> onats, gtk-recordmydesktop is one option
[01:47] <dooglus> dibs: you can, but you shouldn't
[01:47] <Polah> dibs: From your root directory run sudo chown -R root *
[01:47] <coz_> onats,  you can also use  ffmpeg  from command lin e
[01:47] <onats> ZykoticK9, ok will try that.
[01:47] <onats> i dont want command line
[01:47] <Polah> dibs: Then do sudo chown <you> <your home directory>. It's a very bad idea though, you'll be locked out of almost everything (unless you're on root, which you shouldn't typically be)
[01:47] <dibs> Polah: won't that destory my user account?
[01:47] <raymondjtoth2> hi polah
[01:47] <Polah> dibs: No, just make everything inaccessible depending upon permissions
[01:48] <Polah> raymondjtoth2, hello
[01:48] <sparr> Polah: that's a horrible suggestion
[01:48] <dibs> Polah: Lol, ok, well I am just trying not to get fired so I guess I will give it a shot
[01:48] <sparr> Polah: chown'ing various things in /var and /etc to root can seriously break your system
[01:48] <hiexpo> ffmpeg much better
[01:48] <Polah> Sparr: He asked how to do it, I just told him
[01:48] <raymondjtoth2> polah can you help i borught jace31 he is new here
[01:48] <sparr> Polah: imho, the answer to that question is "you don't"
[01:49] <RevSpecies116> "not get fired" dibs?
[01:49] <Polah> dibs: Yeah, I wouldn't. Like I said before, it'll make a lot of things broken
[01:49] <raymondjtoth2> polah he on older build
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Polah: ive always used that metod personally
[01:49] <Polah> Sparr: It's not up to me if he wants to do it or not, I'm just telling him how. I did recommend not doing it and said it'd break stuff
[01:49] <roasted> how do I get a listing of all /dev/video devices on my system?
[01:49] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Method to do what? Upgrade distribution or set Update Manager to look for non-LTS releases?
[01:50] <raymondjtoth2> polah did you see my text
[01:50] <Polah> roasted: Someone said it before, ls /dev/video *
[01:50] <roasted> Polah, my name never flashed in the chat, so I never saw it.
[01:50] <roasted> Polah, the problem is I have video0 and video1. I'd like to know which one is which camera.
[01:50] <Polah> Roasted: He never tagged your name, but there you go
[01:50] <dibs> ok guys so which folders can be root?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Polah: if user as installd lts, then the default is to look for the next lts to upgrade to
[01:51] <Lobo29> Is this chat logged to a file? if yes, where do i find it... if not, can i save it ?
[01:51] <roasted> Polah, do you know how I can tell?
[01:51] <dibs> Polah: what would you do? (inb4 not chown my root)
[01:51] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know. You said to edit the file that determines whether to look for LTS only or non-LTS. I just said it can be done through Update Manager. Both ways work.
[01:51] <Polah> dibs: What are you attempting to do exactly?
[01:52] <andreb> guys i am getting this error when i try to start bind "/etc/bind/named.conf:10: change directory to '/var/lib/named' failed: file not found"
[01:52] <andreb> i have chrooted bind to /var/lib/named
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> Lobo29, there are chat logs online of the #ubuntu channel - local logs depend on your client.
[01:52] <andreb> any ideas ?? or adbice ?
[01:52] <Lobo29> ZykoticK9: ty again
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Polah: sure, editting the file ensures alll is well. i dont trust those gui apps
[01:52] <raymondjtoth2> ZykoticK9: can you help my freidfn jac31 he new here and got older builf of ubuntu he need help can you help him thanks
[01:52] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[01:52] <Polah> ActionParsnip: You don't trust them? Why's that?
[01:53] <dibs> I went to chown some files to www-data and I accidentally used '/', I stopped it and my machine is still working, now I am trying to retore ownerships to correct state
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Polah: i prefer cli stuffs
[01:53] <Polah> raymondjtoth2, we really need more information before we can help at all. Just saying something is broken doesn't help us help you at all.
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> raymondjtoth2, have your friend "jac31" simply ask there question, and if someone knows the answer they will probably give it.
[01:53] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Sure, might be quicker. But GUIs are useful for the less savvy users.
[01:54] <Polah> Roasted: No, I don't. Perhaps try unplugging your webcam and see which one disappears when you do it again?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Polah: surr but if the gui fails, why not try the cli way?
[01:54] <raymondjtoth2> ZykoticK9: just told him will be right with you guys thanks
[01:54] <roasted> Polah, good call. that did it.
[01:54] <digbit> hey guys how do i view my ufw logs?
[01:55] <roasted> Polah, problem is doing that proves I was using hte correct /dev/video webcam for my zoneminder project. Now why on the earth wouldnt it be working... I have some homework to do...
[01:55] <Jace31> im havein trouble getting ubuntu to the Internet to work can someone help me with the dhcp an how can i get it up an running?
[01:55] <Polah> ActionParsnip: But his GUI hasn't failed (or I didn't see him saying it failed). The GUI way just gives you a dropdown menu to select "Never", "LTS Only" or "Normal" when searching for newer distributions. The CLI way actually requires you to know the command and what you're doing to edit the file.
[01:55] <ZykoticK9> digbit, i don't use ufw, but have you checked in /var/log?
[01:55] <coz_> roasted,  zoneminder I have had issues with recognizing my we cam
[01:55] <nmesis> Jace31, connecting to ethernet?
[01:56] <Polah> Jace31: Are you on a wired or wireless connection?
[01:56] <Jace31> yes
[01:56] <coz_> roasted,  would really like it to work but Ithink I may have to find another cam for that project
[01:56] <Jace31> wireless
[01:56] <roasted> coz_, the difference is zoneminder was working all weekend.
[01:56] <roasted> coz_, I rebooted and I lost it
[01:56] <roasted> coz_, so that's why I'm super confused, because I deleted the camera and re-added it and no dice...
[01:56] <nmesis> i have thesame problem with my netbook yesterday but it is solved here
[01:56] <Polah> Roasted: An update that's broken driver functionality, perhaps? I really don't know.
[01:56] <roasted> Polah, I didn't update at all.
[01:56] <coz_> roasted,  oh man ,,, can you still get into the brower setup?
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Polah: thats why this channel exists :)
[01:56] <coz_> browser rather
[01:57] <roasted> coz_, oh yeah. I just used a spare netbook as my zoneminder box, its here on my lap
[01:57] <coz_> roasted,  ah ok
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Polah: the gui fails, folks ask as the cli way works
[01:57] <roasted> coz_, Im on it just fine. I just have no idea why the camera isnt working anymore. works fine on cheese though.
[01:57] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Indeed. Else we'd be out of a job.
[01:57] <digbit> zykoticK9 i don't have that dir
[01:57] <raymondjtoth2> !wireless
[01:57] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Of course, if their GUI fails before hand and they don't understand how to install and work irssi, they're a bit out of luck.
[01:57] <coz_> roasted,  mm not sure actually, as I said I have big issues with m y cam  so I am a bit jealous
[01:57] <RyanP> I just accidently deleted an LVM volume group. Am I hosed?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> Polah: fact, the gui 'should' work but when it doesn't we'll be here to catch the users
[01:58] <roasted> coz_, I had issues too, but finally someone responded to me in #zoneminder that told me the settings that work for almost all usb cameras. sure enough ti worked for mine, but like I said, it began to act up just now.
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> digbit, you don't have /var/log - oh man I think you have bigger issues then!  You might want to check again.
[01:58] <Jace31> how do i get on line in the ubuntu what are the settings do i need?
[01:58] <coz_> roasted,   interesting,, wish I could help, but since i have only failed experiences  I have to bow out of this issue :)
[01:59] <digbit> haha good call! i was in /usr duh!!
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> Jace31, can you give more details.  Ethernet or wireless - what sort of connection cable/dsl - any details you give would be helpful to everyone.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> Jace31: depends on how you connect to the web
[01:59] <roasted> coz_, hihgly recommended you hang out in #zoneminder till someone responds. they're extremely helpful when they watch the chat.
[01:59] <nmesis> Jace31, it is on laptop?
[01:59] <Jace31> yes
[02:00] <nmesis> maybe drivers
[02:00] <Polah> Jace31: You still haven't told us whether you're on a wired or wireless connection. Knowing what distribution and your network interface model would be extremely helpful as well.
[02:00] <coz_> roasted,  oh man << i actually never thought of that,, I suppose i am on irc way too much ,, thanks :)
[02:00] <Jace31> im on a wireless
[02:00] <nmesis> he is wired
[02:00] <darkorical> I was at one time setting up push to talk on ventrilo and one of the sets of instructions I used had me use a command that after I exicuted it it identified all input I gave it ... basically it said (in its language ) keyboard  event t pressed
[02:00] <nmesis> ow
[02:00] <raymondjtoth2> nmesis: he on older build witgh icon on left insted of right
[02:00] <raymondjtoth2> jac31
[02:00] <penos> can you install cron in windows?
[02:00] <darkorical> does anyone know what that command/program was or ome that would do similar
[02:00] <Polah> Jace31: What Ubuntu distribution and what network hardware do you have?
[02:00] <roasted> coz_, I wondr if its this stupid netbook
[02:01] <Polah> penos: Control Panel > Scheduled Tasks in windows. Does the same job or near enough.
[02:01] <roasted> coz_, I just did a reinstall of zoneminder and magically my webcam works. however, the entire thing is frozen now. it has bad hdd sectors and was in the garage running all night. I bet it's beginning to toast.
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> darkorical, i don't know if it still applies - but Push to Talk on Ventrillo was NOT working on linux
[02:01] <Jace31> i have a wireless broadband
[02:01] <coz_> roasted,  sounds possible   also scarey ")
[02:02] <coz_> roasted,  I know motion works with my webcam
[02:02] <roasted> coz_, it would be, except for the fact this netbook was a freebie. :P
[02:02] <Polah> darkorical, Ventrilo isn't native to Linux. I assume you're running it through WINE? Try installing Mangler, it's a client for Ventrilo servers that runs natively on Linux.
[02:02] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: it should...i use it'
[02:02] <darkorical> I know and have long since given up on that what I am after now is the program that identified device and input that the computer was given
[02:02] <coz_> roasted,  cool  free is good
[02:02] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: mangler does an excellent job on push to talk...
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, according to celthunder i guess they fixed it
[02:02] <venkat> Hi, How to make skype in startup program
[02:02] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: lol i use mangler...i don't literally tun vent client...i hate wine
[02:02] <kiwis3> Hey
[02:02] <ZykoticK9> darkorical, ^^ tab fail
[02:02] <roasted> coz_, yeah. I wonder if the bad hdd sectors are making it act up though. Ubuntu runs all right on it, but it was in the garage in the blistering heat all day. maybe it's not an ubuntu issue after all...
[02:02] <Jace31> it is dsl
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, so are you using Ventrilo or not?
[02:03] <roasted> coz_, anyway it's off for some fan placements now. thanks for your help. good luck if you ever get back into zoneminder. It looks solid once you figure it out.
[02:03] <feyd> i have broken sound in xubuntu, desperately seeking advice. Sound is muted on startup, unmuting yields no sound. No major changes other than some regular application install / removing int he past few days
[02:03] <Jace31> wireless internet
[02:03] <kiwis3> I have a problem with my splash screen, anyone have any knowledge on this?
[02:03] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: mangler is ventrilo client for linux
[02:03] <coz_> roasted,  ooo did you check the hard drive temps?
[02:03] <Polah> Venkat: System > Preferences > Startup Applications. Then click Add, give it a name (i.e. Skype), the command should just be "skype" to start it up", describe it how you want and that should be it. Make sure it's ticked on the list and enabled.
[02:03] <roasted> coz_, how can I?
[02:03] <Jace31> i have a dell laptop
[02:03] <celthunder> kiwis3: what's t he problme
[02:03] <roasted> coz_, is there a thing in ubuntu to do that?
[02:03] <Polah> kiwis3: What splash screen? The logon screen?
[02:03] <coz_> roasted,  first   sudo apt-get install hddtemp
[02:03] <kiwis3> No, from Grub
[02:04] <kiwis3> When booting into Ubuntu
[02:04] <celthunder> feyd: pulse or alsa or oss
[02:04] <dantheman73> Does anyone know how to I can access all the stuff on my ipod and add/remove songs?
[02:04] <ZykoticK9> darkorical, check out celthunder's Mangler alternative - as I bet Vent is still broken (linux hating company)
[02:04] <Polah> Kiwis3: Oh. Perhaps reinstall GRUB, or tell us the specific issue and maybe we can help
[02:04] <coz_> roasted,   then the command  for farenheit is      sudo hddtemp --u=F /dev/sd*   for centigrade leave out the --u=F
[02:04] <celthunder> dantheman73: which ipod version
[02:04] <coz_> roasted,  in F it should not be above 84
[02:04] <roasted> coz_, lol
[02:04] <Polah> dantheman73, check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[02:04] <roasted> coz_, 109*F
[02:04] <feyd> celthunder: you know I'm not sure, whatever is standard on xubuntu natty. Where can I check?
[02:05] <raymondjtoth2> Polah: did you see what jac31 posted
[02:05] <coz_> roasted,  there's the problem
[02:05] <venkat> Thank you
[02:05] <Polah> dantheman73, Banshee (the default music player on 11.04) supports iPods through a little plugin if you enable it.
[02:05] <meow27> problem, i did a 'mount -t tmpfs none /var/tmp' and my system is gonna get screwed if i reboot
[02:05] <coz_> roasted,   that is way too hot for HD
[02:05] <roasted> coz_, heat sucks.
[02:05] <kiwis3> The specific issue is that when I select my ubuntu install to boot into, instead of seeing the Ubuntu logo on the splash screen, I get a blinking command line thing, which then goes away, and boots into ubuntu.
[02:05] <nmesis> dantheman73: i use gtkpod to mange my ipod songs
[02:05] <meow27> how do i copy the contents back to the main drive?
[02:05] <Polah> raymondjtoth2, yes and I can't help. Sorry.
[02:05] <darkorical> ZykoticK9 I am not looking for vent help anymore I quit playing the game I used it for actually what I am looking for is something that will identify the input I give the computer
[02:05] <roasted> coz_, thanks for the tip bro. I'll have to position some fans strategically and watch over it
[02:05] <raymondjtoth2> any one good with wireless on dell laptop
[02:05] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[02:05] <coz_> roasted,  you could remove the hard drive tray and place a large fan in front of it
[02:05] <darkorical> I was simply stating that I knew it existed from a time when I was working on vent
[02:06] <roasted> coz_, ehh, its a netbook. that's a bit tricky
[02:06] <coz_> roasted,  ooooo
[02:06] <Polah> meow27: In Nautilus, select it all, copy it and then paste it or drag/drop it onto another Nautilus window on the other drive. Alternately do cp <source file> <destination>
[02:06] <celthunder> darkorical: xev
[02:06] <coz_> roasted,  yep many many fans or stick it front of an airconditioner :)
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> darkorical, why would you use vent to test input on a linux system?  that doesn't make any sense.  I used to use SDLTest for some input testing...
[02:06] <roasted> coz_, I have another location I can put it. I can put it in the basement with some USB extension cables coming out of the basement door. That way I have it in a cool area instead of the hot garage.
[02:06] <meow27> i dont have access to nautilus Q_Q im just limited to the terminal
[02:06] <meow27> ah... right
[02:06] <roasted> coz_, this is all for the sake of seeing what's eating my darn fish out of the pond. (like 14" fish)
[02:06] <roasted> coz_, so 1 camera is all I need. this should work.
[02:06] <Polah> Darkorical: Try Mangler, install pavucontrol, or Mumble. They all run natively and will let you test input
[02:07] <roasted> coz_, appreciate your help and insight bro
[02:07] <celthunder> darkorical: you can use xev to try input
[02:07] <coz_> roasted, `   lol  well  zoneminder is a good choice ,, have you looked into  "motion" ..yes?
[02:07] <dantheman73> thanks for all the suggestions guys il try them il out thank you so much
[02:07] <celthunder> or at least key input
[02:07] <meow27> polah: but how do I cp all the contents? just cp /var/tmp?
[02:07] <roasted> coz_, for what it's worth, in zoneminder, the one dev told me the most common settings that work is PAL and YUYV
[02:07] <celthunder> meow27: cp -r /var/tmp /newdir
[02:07] <roasted> coz_, motion detect? yes. thats all I used over the weekend.
[02:07] <megamanx1978> Which performs better in ubuntu geforce or radeon?
[02:08] <celthunder> megamanx1978: i'd say geforce in general...
[02:08] <roasted> coz_, seems as if hddtemp is giving me "Drive is sleeping" messages now...
[02:08] <roasted> coz_, nevermind. it woke up just now
[02:08] <coz_> roasted,  SHUT IT OFF
[02:08] <roasted> coz_, shutting down now :P
[02:09] <coz_> roasted,  get those HD's  down in temp,, set up fans or whatever is necessary to k eep them cool, it will go into "read only" mode if it gets too hot
[02:09] <roasted> coz_, didn't know that.
[02:09] <roasted> coz_, I removed it from the garage. I thought it was okay however Im still out back @ 89*F weather... guess it didnt help
[02:09] <Polah> megamanx1978, what you mean is which set of drivers is better.
[02:10] <coz_> roasted,  y ou probably need an ssd in that netbook,, surprised it isnt equipped with it but you said it was an older one so that explaines it
[02:10] <ntr0py> How can i setub an sandforce ssd installation of ubuntu?
[02:10] <Jace31> my laptop is an nspron 1545 with windows 7 home primium an i need to get internet goin on the ubuntu
[02:10] <meow27> celthunder: will a cp -rw save permissions?
[02:10] <Jace31> when i boot into ubuntu
[02:10] <Polah> ntr0py: The same way you'd install it on any other drive
[02:11] <roasted> coz_, yeah, it's an older 8.9" one. Someone I know had an XP error on it and thought it was catastrophic, sothey bought an ipad and wanted to unload the netbook, so here it is. ha...
[02:11] <roasted> coz_, I'll probably rig up a desktop with a cat5 line to it and do it right.
[02:11] <coz_> roasted,  good luck on keeping that cool
[02:11] <feyd> celthunder: would uninstalling whatever sound driver is default help anything
[02:11] <feyd> celthunder: or deleting config files? I'm truly lost when it comes to sound
[02:11] <roasted> coz_, I think a desktop would be far easier than a netbook.
[02:12] <roasted> coz_, open panel, set fan up, done deal.
[02:12] <coz_> roasted,  for cooling absolutely
[02:12] <ntr0py> Polah: yes but i need proper disk alignment and special io scheduler setup besides trim support...
[02:12] <roasted> coz_, appreciate the help. remember, PAL + YUYV for usb cams. give it a shot.
[02:12] <coz_> roasted,  thanks
[02:12] <roasted> coz_, just make sure you set the /dev/video to whatever # it is. mine was /dev/video0. totally missed that the first time.
[02:12] <Polah> meow27: just cp -Rp should preserve ownership and permissions and whatnot
[02:12] <roasted> coz_, take care
[02:12] <megamanx1978> Polah So which set of drivers do you think is better I am chooseing between a Geforce gtx 500 and Radeon hd 6000
[02:12] <meow27> polah: ok thanks
[02:12] <Polah> ntr0py:  Can't help you with that, sorry.
[02:13] <coz_> roasted,  thanks,,, made a not of it
[02:13] <coz_> note
[02:13] <Polah> megamanx1978, I can't say. I've heard absolutely nothing about Radeon drivers and only a few things, both good and bad about Nvidia drivers.
[02:13] <dibs> Hey guys to fix ownership issues can I chown /proc/ to root? is that generally to owner?
[02:14] <Polah> dibs: /proc/ is usually owned by root, yes.
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> dibs, my /proc has several different owners of subfiles - not only root!
[02:15] <Polah> Dibs: Yes, what ZykoticK9 said. /proc/ is owned by root but perhaps not all it's subfiles. Don't do it recursively.
[02:15] <celthunder> feyd: figure out what you're using first is pulse running? does alsamixer work? ossxmix?
[02:15] <megamanx1978> Polah Ty anyway I am planing on building a new linux gaming pc
[02:15] <Polah> megamanx1978, Windows would be better for gaming...
[02:16] <celthunder> megamanx1978: ati drivers are terrible on linux
[02:16] <tdb30_> Is there a way to have startup programs start in a particular order?
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> megamanx1978, "linux gaming pc" that's funny ;)
[02:16] <kescc> change Alt+F2 shortcut to the Right Windows key? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770970 Please take a look and see if you can help me? Thanks
[02:16] <nmesis> megamanx1978, i saw heroes of newerth has native linux
[02:16] <Polah> nmesis, megamanx1978: Correct. Heroes of Newerth does run natively.
[02:16] <raymondjtoth2> nmesis:  you know wireless in dell laptop
[02:16] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[02:17] <nmesis> i dont know sorry. maybe there are missing drivers
[02:17] <raymondjtoth2> nmesis: it see it finde told me
[02:17] <nmesis> because i have thesame problem yesterday with my ethernet but wired
[02:17] <Polah> raymondjtoth2, please stop asking everyone for help with Jace31's problems. If we can't help, then we won't try to as we might say to do something that will break something. Be patient and wait for someone who can help.
[02:17] <feyd> celthunder: alsa responds, but I'm pretty sure I'm running pulse
[02:18] <celthunder> feyd: pavucontrol is it set to the right input/output?
[02:18] <nmesis> you need to dowload the driver and build them and then load the driver
[02:18] <megamanx1978> Polah I know less games are supported but at least linux will run my games faster tyhan windows
[02:18] <nmesis> what games
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> megamanx1978, i wouldn't count on that either...
[02:18] <Polah> megamanx1978: Sure, if it runs them at all.
[02:18] <dantheman73> so how do I put my ipod library onto my computer/banshee?
[02:19] <Polah> megamanx1978, Linux might run faster than Windows, but performance of Windows programs like Windows games will typically be worse on Linux through WINE.
[02:19] <nmesis> but there are patch that makes them run like in windows
[02:20] <Polah> nmesis: Not for all games and probably only a sparse few. Even then it's not perfect.
[02:21] <min|dvir|us> Unclickable area on the screen. Any thoughts? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748517&page=3
[02:21] <Bagatelle> what is a signing key>?
[02:21] <Bagatelle> from here https://launchpad.net/~i2p-maintainers/+archive/i2p
[02:21] <feyd> celthunder: actually don't have pavucontrol installed, maybe I'm only running alsa
[02:22] <feyd> celthunder: yes, it's alsa, my mistake and apologies
[02:22] <Polah> Bagatelle: A secure generated key that is used to sign emails and documents that can be checked to verify they come from a specific person. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signature
[02:22] <feyd> celthunder: I still have pulsecookie and .pulse folders in ~ though
[02:23] <feyd> celthunder: I'm very confused
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> feyd, "ps aux | grep pulseaudio"
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> feyd, if you are using a recent Ubuntu then 99% you are using Pulse, unless you've removed it.
[02:24] <Tempus_Fugit>  i need a little help I was trying to enable ccsm and window cube and somehow lost the main menu on the left side of the screen????
[02:24] <megamanx1978> So which run games the fastest wine, gametree, playonlinux, or crossover games?
[02:24] <feyd> ZykoticK9: it's xubuntu if that matters, though that command looks like it's running
[02:25] <qchn> megamanx1978: Crossover, I think.
[02:25] <ZykoticK9> feyd, i know the older Xubuntu didn't use pulse, not sure about current.  Best of luck though, I'm no help with sound issues really.
[02:25] <qchn> megamanx1978: Crossover is Shareware, isn't it?
[02:25] <Tempus_Fugit> anyone help me get my main menu back?
[02:25] <Raelos> I'm using Ubuntu Maverick and tried to install both PlayOnLinux and the latest Wine but I messed it up. What is the best way to completely remove both, including any programs installed under wine?
[02:26] <aeon-ltd> Tempus_Fugit: unity? or classic?
[02:26] <Polah> Raelos: PlayOnLinux is just a frontend for WINE. If you just install WINE and then install Windows programs through that it's the same thing.
[02:26] <darkorical> alright Ill ask here ... anyone know of a xev equivalent for windows?
[02:26] <Tempus_Fugit> i think classic
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> Raelos, "sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2", to remove everything installed in wine you need to manually delete your ~/.wine folder.
[02:26] <Tempus_Fugit> aeon-ltd: i think classic
[02:26] <pain> unity is very heavy........
[02:26] <aeon-ltd> Tempus_Fugit: did you panel dissappear or something?
[02:26] <Raelos> kk, thanks guys.
[02:26] <aeon-ltd> *your
[02:26] <Tempus_Fugit> I was playing with ccsm to get effects and 3d windows
[02:27] <Polah> Raelos: To remove both, sudo apt-get purge wine playonlinux, then delete your .wine and .playonlinux folders in your home directory (or whatever playonlinux folder is called)
[02:27] <Tempus_Fugit> yes my panel did
[02:27] <aeon-ltd> !panels
[02:27] <megamanx1978> qchn You do have to pay for crossover
[02:27] <aeon-ltd> Tempus_Fugit: post a screenshot if you're unsure
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> megamanx1978, plus CrossOver is NOT free software (as in freedom)
[02:27] <Raelos> or as in free beer
[02:28] <pain> OMFG
[02:28] <qchn> megamanx1978: This is what Shareware means, ;)
[02:28] <Tempus_Fugit> aeon-ltd: yeah my panel is gone and so is the top bar
[02:28] <tripelb> I now know how to tell which USB port is which. Thus I know which of the 6 places to plug in is the USB 2.0  FYI
[02:28] <qwebirc26345> i have an iso image that once mounted i would like to changes to. I was thinking some of the same ideas used for live cd's would apply. once the iso is un-mounted the changes can be lost. any ideas?
[02:28] <michal11> I have an issue with laptop not recognizing battery...could someone help me out?
[02:28] <Polah> Tempus_Fugit, Unity or GNOME?
[02:28] <sidhe> hi everyone, I don't know what it takes to access the ethostream wi-fi on my Ubuntu 10.04.2 machine (also Win7), does anyone know?
[02:29] <tripelb> qwebirc26345, you know when you boot from a liveCD you can save on some other "volume" eg a flash, and I suppose a partition too. Is that enough information?
[02:29] <pain> win7 sux
[02:29] <Polah> Pain: Don't make comments like that please.
[02:29] <pain> ok
[02:30] <celthunder> feyd: so install pavucontrol or use whatever mixer you have installed
[02:30] <tripelb> Hello sidhe what's an ethostream ?
[02:30] <pav5088> Is there an apt-get install switch (eg. some kind of -o option) that will change the kinds of configuration questions asked?  eg. low, critical, high etc..  priority
[02:30] <pav5088> I don't want to have to dpkg-reconfigure debconf every time...
[02:30] <sidhe> hi tripelb, ethostream is a wi-fi provider that the hotel I'm staying at uses
[02:30] <feyd> celthunder: wow, well it just started working again. I deleted pulsecookie and .pulse and it's good now
[02:30] <Bagatelle> could anyone please explain this to me? The key for this PPA is included in the package "i2p-keyring". Install it to make "secure-apt" happy if you add the repository to /etc/sources.list manually.
[02:30] <feyd> celthunder: thanks for the help
[02:30] <Bagatelle> taken from https://launchpad.net/~i2p.packages/+archive/i2p
[02:30] <celthunder> feyd: didn't do nothing lol
[02:30] <feyd> ZykoticK9: thanks for your help, resolved it, most obvious solution. I feel dumb
[02:30] <Tempus_Fugit> aeon-ltd: does that command that ubottu gave me need to be under sudo?
[02:30] <feyd> celthunder: I appreciate the effort anyway
[02:30] <tripelb> sidhe that might be the next thing I need to know since I got a wifi router today. OIC, you want to connect?
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> feyd, good work!  glad you figured it out.
[02:31] <sidhe> right tripelb
[02:31] <Polah> Bagatelle: Do you have the key? It should be a short string of alphanumeric characters.
[02:31] <michal11> Why does ACPI not recognize my battery? anyone?
[02:31] <sidhe> I'm trying to get Ubuntu online and I thought I'd ask (again) in hopes of finding someone who'd be able to help me get online using the ethostream wifi
[02:31] <tripelb> What Ubuntu do you have? You might just see the wifi in the panel.
[02:32] <sidhe> I tried finding it under the networks menu, the icon that shows rays going outward in the upper rt. hand corner
[02:32] <sidhe> but it wasn't listed there
[02:32] <sidhe> I tried adding it but then there was a section where you had to pick the level of security/whatnot
[02:32] <sidhe> I selected the one with the passphrase
[02:32] <Polah> sidhe: Try adding it manually? Ubuntu has a lot of problems with wireless interfaces
[02:32] <Bagatelle> polah, can you help me to find that in https://launchpad.net/~i2p.packages/+archive/i2p? Im sorry, I dont see it
[02:32] <sidhe> I wasn't sure about that
[02:32] <megamanx1978> That is true I usualy think of shareware as no cast software
[02:32] <pain> backtrack 5 is ubuntu 10.04 based.... is a good distro????
[02:33] <sidhe> why does it have so many probs. with wireless??
[02:33] <tripelb> sidhe isnt the question you asked the same as I'm at a place with wifi. What do I do to connect to it? I have UB X.X
[02:33] <megamanx1978> No cost software I mean
[02:33] <bumm13> does Ubuntu/Canonical eventually purge their apt repositories once a distro becomes "too old" (such as, say, jaunty/9.04)?
[02:33] <Bagatelle> polah, ah, is it the fingerprint?
[02:33] <Bagatelle> polah, or the signing key?
[02:33] <KM0201> megamanx1978: shareware by its very definition, costs money, freeware, is free.
[02:33] <tripelb> pain Ub 10.04 is good and stable.
[02:33] <smw> bumm13, The mirrors probably do
[02:34] <pain> hmmm..... thanks brother!
[02:34] <sidhe> well I don't know how to ask the proper questions, I'm not a politician tripelb
[02:34] <sidhe> all I know is, I'm trying to get online using the wifi and it isn't accessing it
[02:34] <tripelb> sidhe no critcism, just helping you. I am a keep it simple kid.
[02:34] <sidhe> right, me too tripelb
[02:34] <Bagatelle> what do I do with a signing key?
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, shareware is typically proprietary, freeware can become proprietary - thus "free software" (FAIF) is everyone's best choice ;)
[02:34] <sidhe> I just don't know how to access the wifi and now yer telling me ubuntu has probs. with wifi?
[02:34] <Polah> Bagatelle: Try doing this: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver <keyserver> --recv-keys EB2CC88B      I don't know if PPAs use keyserver.ubuntu.com or not, you could try
[02:35] <sidhe> dang, what's so great about it if you can't use wifi?
[02:35] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: i guess...
[02:35] <Polah> Bagatelle: Just replace <keyserver> with keyserver.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <tripelb> sidhe I might have missed but what version of ubuntu do you have? and what's your brand of laptop. Thanks
[02:35] <Tempus_Fugit> aeon-ltd: i would post a screenshot but everything is gone even the power icon
[02:35] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: The term shareware (also known as trialware or demoware) refers to proprietary software that is provided to users without payment on a trial basis and is often limited by any combination of functionality, availability or convenience.
[02:36] <sidhe> tripelb:  I'm running an HP Pavilion Win7 machine, with Ubuntu 10.04.2 installed on the hd
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, depending on your age, I might have been using "shareware" before you where born :p
[02:37] <RevSpecies116> My first use of Shareware was iD's Doom :)
[02:37] <raido> does anyone know a command like "pwd" that will show which filesystem (as in one on a remote server) the cwd is mounted on
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, nice!
[02:38] <sidhe> soooooo......what release of Linux goes well w. wifi?
[02:38] <tripelb> siddhe are you talking to us with your phone?
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> raido, did you try "mount" by itself?
[02:38] <sidhe> no tripelb, I'm on a win7 machine, I told you
[02:38] <michal11> Battery not being detected...is this a BIOS issue or something else? ACPI shows no results ...LSHW shows lithium battery. HELP please
[02:38] <sidhe> I got online here using a web-based irc client
[02:38] <hiexpo> sidhe, all
[02:38] <raido> ZykoticK9: that has no info on where you are and is only good for the local machine
[02:39] <sidhe> hiexpo, someone told me that Ubuntu doesn't go well w. wifi
[02:39] <Bagatelle> polah, like sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3FC3365C ?
[02:39] <tripelb> siddhe then you are already connected? if you are on irc with your computer then ....
[02:39] <Raelos> sidhe, i disagree
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> raido, true...  sorry I gots nothin' then.  Best of luck.
[02:39] <sidhe> I am on a irc using Win7
[02:39] <sidhe> irc client web-based using win7, that's how I'm chatting here.
[02:39] <tripelb> oh sidhe so you have a win computer and an ubuntu computer, or is it a dual boot?
[02:39] <sethTampaBay> Is there any easy way to get my windows/menus/scrollbars to work like they did before 11?
[02:39] <sidhe> dual boot tripelb
[02:40] <hiexpo> actually sidhe ubuntu is probally most supported on for drivers
[02:40] <sethTampaBay> ... I gave the new layout a whirl... but it's really slowing me down.  I hate it actually.
[02:40] <tripelb> sidhe K. looking it up. I'd hope someone who knows more than I might chime in.
[02:40] <Bagatelle> HELP with W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/i2p-maintainers/i2pppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:40] <Bagatelle> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/i2p-maintainers/i2pppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[02:40] <sidhe> well for someodd reason hiexpo, I can't access the ethostream wifi whenever I boot Ubuntu here it's 10.04.2
[02:40] <RevSpecies116> sidhe: While Ubuntu is Linux, Linux is Not Ubuntu - so when you ask your questions, we most likely will say: GET Ubuntu ;)
[02:40] <Polah> Bagatelle: I just looked at the guide for that PPA: Do this instead > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:i2p.packages/i2p
[02:40] <hiexpo> sidhe, what wifi card ?
[02:40]  * sidhe blinks
[02:41] <sidhe> sorry I don't know anything about hardware, I'm strictly a software geek :P
[02:41] <sidhe> I can take a look under the ctrl panel
[02:42] <Polah> sidhe: Look in your System Info or grab a program like Speccy, it might tell you what network controller you have.
[02:42] <bumm13> smw: "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xx/xx.x_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]"
[02:42] <sidhe> syst info?  burr? ok
[02:42] <bumm13> (for jaunty files)
[02:42] <RevSpecies116> Wait, sidhe, how are you connected to the net now? WiFi on win7?
[02:42] <smw> !jaunty
[02:42] <sidhe> yes RevSpecies116
[02:42] <tripelb> sidhe (from ubuntu forums) looks like you need a driver. "maybe" oh RevSpecies116 you are taking over. GOOD. Alright so I was able to manually setup an ethernet connection through terminal, which allowed me to install the b43-fwcutter package. After a reboot my wifi worked flawlessly! So I guess I could mark this thread as solved right now.
[02:43] <smw> bumm13, yep, the get rid of old ones apparently ;-)
[02:43] <RevSpecies116> If so, you should be able to hover your cursor over the network icon in your taskbar on the lower right, and a little box should hover up
[02:43] <bumm13> smw - ;-) ?
[02:43] <Polah> bumm13: Consider upgrading. 9.04 is long dead, unless you'd like to deal with unsupported and outdated, possibly never-going-exist hardware and software updates, and unpatched security issues.
[02:43] <smw> bumm13, upgrade :-P
[02:44] <bumm13> upgrading breaks a lot of stuff (sigh)
[02:44]  * hiexpo don'tunderstand that cause i would think to make software one must what hardware was being used to right the software for 
[02:44] <Polah> bumm13: Depends what stuff you have.
[02:44] <WindowsMojave> Hello, Anyone here experienced with Linux?
[02:44] <bumm13> Polah: of course
[02:44] <jhanarato> hello folks! I'm configuring grub now. The os_prober script lists the Window Recovery option before the Vista option... is it possible to switch them so that Vista is the default? I've already moved the os_prober script to 08_
[02:44] <WindowsMojave> I am having a problem with Ubuntu and my Wifi
[02:44] <RevSpecies116> :) Trick Question, WindowsMojave ?
[02:44] <Polah> WindowsMojave: Nope. We're all sitting in the Ubuntu help channel waiting for someone to help us ):
[02:45] <WindowsMojave> I am having a problem with Ubuntu and my Wifi
[02:45] <bumm13> I really hate the idea of rebuilding a bunch of program that aren't from the repositories :P
[02:45] <sidhe> guess I'm not the only one WindowsMojave
[02:45] <WindowsMojave> I have a Belkin F5D7050 USB Adaptor and I am using the rt73usb driver in Ubuntu
[02:45] <tripelb> RevSpecies116, I'm looking at forums. they have "stuff" that isnt so simple nor do they agree. -- , it won’t come up again, when I re-enable it. Until a reboot. However, reloading the iwlagn kernel module (the wireless adapter driver), it works again! To achieve this either untick and tick again the ‘enable wireless’ on the right-click menu of network-manager or use this command. (thanks Nicolas!)
[02:45] <WindowsMojave> DHCP tends to time out when I am downloading from a repository
[02:45] <Polah> bumm13: Perhaps they've been added to the newer repos.
[02:45] <WindowsMojave> Like, the speed tends to get down to: bytes/sec
[02:45] <WindowsMojave> Yes, bytes
[02:46] <tripelb> sidhe RevSpecies116> If so, you should be able to hover your cursor over the network icon in your taskbar on the lower right, and a little box should hover up
[02:46] <WindowsMojave> How would I fix this?
[02:46] <RevSpecies116> tripelb: I wish I could say I've had issues with ubuntu and WiFi in the past - but I have not. Always worked for me out of the box ever since 6.06
[02:46] <WindowsMojave> It only stays that low for about 10 - 20 seconds then goes back up to my regular speed
[02:46] <sidhe> there is a network icon in the upper rt. hand side
[02:46] <tripelb> RevSpecies116, that's great. I'll leave now and go to a movie!  Best of luck frineds.
[02:47] <hiexpo> same here using atheros and realtek
[02:47] <sidhe> but when i click on it it doesn't indicate that it has detected the ethostream wifi
[02:47] <RevSpecies116> Enjoy the movies, tripelb
[02:47] <RevSpecies116> :)
[02:47] <WindowsMojave> anyone know how to fix my issue?
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> sidhe - the wired component of your network interface works on Ubuntu? Just not WiFi?
[02:48] <RevSpecies116> WindowsMojave: We may do
[02:48] <bumm13> "Main server", "Server from United States" and ubuntu.osuosl.org all failed, so I guess I'm SOL...
[02:49] <sidhe> I have no idea RevSpecies116 I just know that I see an icon on the upper rt. hand side of my Ubuntu screen that indicates any available networks, and when I click on it it doesn't seem to indicate ethostream wifi anywhere
[02:49] <sidhe> I'm an idiot when it comes to Ubuntu, sorry y'all :(
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> bumm13, did you see info for updating EOLs at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ?
[02:50] <RevSpecies116> Do you have access to ethernet wired capability to the box [router/ADSL MODEM] that provides you the internet
[02:50] <WindowsMojave> Anyone?
[02:50] <sidhe> I have no idea what that question means RevSpecies116, sorry
[02:50] <RevSpecies116> @ sidhe ?
[02:51] <RevSpecies116> What in ternet do you have, sidhe - how does your ISP get the internet to your house?
[02:51] <sidhe> I'm more of a software kinda person, I don't know what that ethernet wired capability translates to in plain english
[02:51] <sidhe> wifi RevSpecies116
[02:51]  * bumm13 looks
[02:51] <RevSpecies116> incorrect, sidhe - is it over your phoneline?
[02:52] <sidhe> I have a unit underneath the end table in the livingroom that radiates the wifi signal, if that's what you mean
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> is it satelite, sidhe?
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> Great :) That is what I mean
[02:52] <RevSpecies116> That unit is your Router/ADSL modem
[02:52] <sidhe> o.k.
[02:52] <traskers> How can I change the default file manager in 11.04 (GNOME 3/Shell)?
[02:52] <sidhe> so how do I know if it has ethernet wired capability?
[02:53] <RevSpecies116> And on that unit should be rectangular slots [perhaps one of the, or 4 of them]
[02:53] <sidhe> ok, lemme go look
[02:53] <RevSpecies116> And when your ISP sent you that box, they should have provided you with a few bits of wire
[02:53]  * bumm13 thinks this may sold his immediate problem
[02:53] <RevSpecies116> And one of those wires is an ethernet cable
[02:54] <RevSpecies116> You should have at least one corresponding slot on your laptop/computer
[02:55] <sidhe> well I see two devices attached to the bottom of the endtable, I'm living in a hotel room whereas the wifi is provided with the cost of the hotel room
[02:55] <RevSpecies116> You are in a hotel? How do you connect to the internet when you are at your main home?
[02:55] <sidhe> I just moved into this place like not even 2-3 wks. ago and I just reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:55] <sidhe> I live in this hotel RevSpecies116, it's a residential hotel
[02:56] <RevSpecies116> And the hotel provides you that 'box under the table'? Or did you have to buy it from a tech shop?
[02:56] <sidhe> yes RevSpecies116, the hotel provided me the two units under the table
[02:57] <python> Currently having a problem with my display seems that in one user account it works fine but in another one then the fonts for firefox arent visible which the account was just recently created, Any Ideas?
[02:57] <ray24> join #^_^
[02:57] <RevSpecies116> sidhe, is it a hotel with management?
[02:57] <RevSpecies116> As if I were you, I'd goto the management and ask to see there IT staff
[02:57] <sidhe> yes RevSpecies116
[02:57] <RevSpecies116> And then ask the IT staff to get you some ethernet cable
[02:58] <sidhe> ok, I can do that maybe tomorrow morning
[02:58] <RevSpecies116> And help you connect your computer up via wire
[02:58] <RevSpecies116> Now that is just a stopgap messure, but we can't really go forward with getting the wifi fixed on Ubuntu, as you are needing to use win7 for internet accfess
[02:59] <RevSpecies116> But once wired internet access can be got on your Ubuntu install, it will be a lot easier to get the wifi component going too
[02:59] <RevSpecies116> And then, once again, you can get rid of the wire, and use wifi with ubuntu :)
[03:00] <RevSpecies116> Sound like a plan, sidhe? :)
[03:00] <sidhe> o.k. RevSpecies116, I'll look into it tomorrow morning when I get up and the staff is bright and perky
[03:01] <RevSpecies116> And the keywords you use to the IT guys] is Ethernet cable :)
[03:01] <bumm13> ZykotickK9: that worked! :D
[03:01] <RevSpecies116> Ethernet Cable :)
[03:01] <sidhe> o.k. RS116, ethernet cable
[03:01] <sidhe> thanx
[03:01] <bumm13> ZykotickK9, etc.: thanks for all the help - very much appreciated! :-)
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> !tab > bumm13
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> bumm13, glad you got it working :)
[03:01] <sidhe> hopefully I'll see you online tomorrow morning or whenever it works
[03:02] <friskd> Hey all, i just setup my virtual host on ubuntu.  But how do i make it so that by going to my ip address it also goes to the same virtual host?
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> friskd, not exactly sure what you mean, but you need 2 IP addresses, one for the host and one for the virtual machine - they both can't share an IP
[03:03] <friskd> ZykoticK9: so i just setup a server w/ rackspace
[03:03] <friskd> and i want to make it so that when you type in my ip address it loads my website
[03:03] <ZykoticK9> friskd, umm, sorry I have no experience with server hosting - good luck.
[03:03] <WindowsMojave> Just to let everyone know, I found a solution to my issue :)
[03:03] <friskd> i set it up, and if i go to www.mysite.com
[03:03] <WindowsMojave> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750759
[03:03] <friskd> then it loads
[03:03] <friskd> but not if i go to my ip address alone
[03:03] <friskd> then i just get the default  "it works" page
[03:04] <ZykoticK9> friskd, if you get the "it works" then perhaps it's an apache config issue?
[03:05] <Gregace> hi all
[03:05] <RevSpecies116> Hello Gregace - can we help?
[03:05] <magn3tics> How is it that resetting ot default colors in gnome-appearance-properties can KILL compiz, unity, and gnoem entirel?
[03:06] <magn3tics> and again.
[03:06] <magn3tics>  that's now 4 times in a row
[03:06] <Gregace> Hi guys, I have a 10.4 installed on a eee, running the root from a 4Go SSD so I'm craving for space.
[03:07] <RevSpecies116> Space?
[03:07] <JayWalker> plug in a flash drive? :p
[03:07] <magn3tics> oh, it crashes every single time
[03:07] <magn3tics> >_<
[03:08] <magn3tics> god I hate everything related to gnome except gtk+
[03:08] <Gregace> I notices that in /var/cache/apt/archives I have 400Mo worth of packages
[03:08] <offsense_> anyone know why i cant start my appearance customization on unity?
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> Gregace, running Ubuntu on 4GB EEEs is something i've done a lot of - and I have to say, 4GB is too small for Ubuntu once you start updating...  my 8GB EEE 701 worked perfectly though.  Best of luck man!
[03:08] <RevSpecies116> magn3tics: Sounds like a bug - have you raised it on launchpad?
[03:08] <Gregace> RevSpecies116, yup
[03:08] <Gregace> it's a small ssd
[03:08] <akbar> ick llamasniper
[03:08] <Gregace> I'm on a asus eee901
[03:09] <JayWalker> tried "sudo apt-get clean" ?
[03:09] <JayWalker> that will erase old downloaded archives
[03:09] <Gregace> will it affect something if I deleted the packages in  /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:10] <Logan_> !bug | magn3tics
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> Gregace, the apt-get clean should do that for you - but yes, you can safely delete them.
[03:10] <Gregace> yeah it did !
[03:10] <Gregace> thanks for the cmd !
[03:11] <RevSpecies116> Gregace: How much space did you get back?
[03:11] <Gregace> for eee 901 linux users, I have the / on the 4go ssd and the /home on the 16g
[03:11] <JayWalker> also don't forget to empty your trash and clean out your Downloads folder in your home folder ;)
[03:12] <Gregace> RevSpecies116, arounf those 400Mo
[03:12] <RevSpecies116> Great :) Should keep you going a little bit longer ;)
[03:12] <friskd> was the httpd service renamed to something else in ubuntu?
[03:13] <friskd> I wanted to do httpd -S
[03:13] <Gregace> RevSpecies116,  definitely
[03:13] <friskd> and its not found
[03:13] <altezza01> !list
[03:13] <Gregace> Thanks guys, I'm back to my xsl/php with ReST assignment
[03:13] <RevSpecies116> Gregace: Also Firefox/Chrome cache's get bloated too - try giving them a little 'clean' too. You have to do that within the respective browsers
[03:13] <magn3ts> The mouse selector hasn't worked for three releases, it reads the default colors wrong from themes, it crashes when you revert to the theme's default colors, they've removed all the configuration possible from gnome-screensaver... ugh
[03:14] <Gregace> what distro do you run on your eee 701 ?
[03:16] <magn3ts> wait, you have to be kidding me.
[03:16] <RevSpecies116> And the price of Bacon, magn3ts?
[03:16] <magn3ts> restarting GDM does not restart or kill old gnome processes?
[03:16] <magn3ts> I have gnome-settings-daemon running half a dozen times here, how is that even possible
[03:17] <magn3ts> does `sudo service gdm restart` not do the whole... stop part first?
[03:18] <RevSpecies116> magn3ts, you really need to get those bugs raised on launchpad, otherwise they may not get solved
[03:19] <magn3tics> I would expect that dropping to tty1 and 'service gdm restart' would not cause all of the gnome daemons to reopen in tandum. Can anyone else confirm that that's happening to them? It seems unbelievable that that would be able to ship without being noticed.
[03:19] <magn3tics> If someone else confirms I'll put in the reports.
[03:20] <darkorical> does anyone know of a playstation 2 emulator that runs well on linux ... my ps2 finally bit the big one and I have a 11.04 box hooked up to my tv as a media server
[03:21] <researcher123> is it possible to convert pdf to ppt?
[03:21] <RevSpecies116> darkorical: That is something this channel cannot really help you with - the emulator part is questionable, but what would you run on it, homebrew games?
[03:21] <magn3ts> researcher123, why would you want to
[03:22] <friskd> was the httpd service renamed in ubuntu?
[03:22] <RevSpecies116> researcher123, yes, but not in one easy click
[03:22] <researcher123> magn3ts: want to creat a presentation out of a pdf doc
[03:22] <darkorical> I would like to be able to put my ps2 disks in the dvd rom on the machine
[03:22] <blackreggie> Hey ppl, How do I get the plugins to play .AVI files in parole ?
[03:22] <busigast> hello everyone :D
[03:22] <researcher123> RevSpecies116: whats the other way?
[03:22] <magn3ts> darkorical, is that even possible?
[03:22] <RevSpecies116> Actually, google docs may let you do that - import the pdf, and export as ppt
[03:23] <rsyring> I'd like to get an updated etckeeper for lucid: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/etckeeper  Whats the easiest way to do that?  I don't really know much about packaging.
[03:23] <freakboy31> wow
[03:23] <RevSpecies116> docs.google.com
[03:23] <researcher123> RevSpecies116: import into which bapplication?
[03:23] <RevSpecies116> not an application, researcher123 - the cloud
[03:23] <darkorical> RevSpecies116 ps2 is a bit outdated to pirate anyway while it is technically possible to do it I have no interest in more old games but I would like to play the ones I have
[03:23] <magn3ts> darkorical, pcsx2 is kin of a standard and they have a linux build. there's also epsxe
[03:23] <researcher123> RevSpecies116: I dont know that
[03:24] <blackreggie> Hey ppl, How do I get the plugins to play .AVI files in parole ?
[03:24] <gaelfx> does disk Utility report sizes in Gigabytes or Gibibytes?
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> darkorical, i've never seen a "working" ps2 emulator for linux - best of luck.
[03:24] <researcher123> RevSpecies116: I have created a cloud account last week not knowing what to do with it
[03:24] <altezza01> !list
[03:24] <freakboy31> do they use ubuntu for servers
[03:24] <magn3ts> Parole looks like an identical clone of Totem.
[03:24] <freakboy31> game servers
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> altezza01, you tried !list already - it doesn't work in this channel
[03:25] <blackreggie> magn3ts it wonr play .avi files how do i install the plugs for it?
[03:25] <blackreggie> *wont
[03:25] <gaelfx> blackreggie: have you tried VLC or SMPlayer?
[03:25] <RevSpecies116> :) researcher123  :) with Google?
[03:26] <magn3ts> blackreggie, no idea. I'd tell you to just use VLC to be honest.
[03:26] <researcher123> RevSpecies116: amazon
[03:26] <blackreggie> No, just the ones that came w/ ubuntu... parole its called
[03:26] <blackreggie> vlc eh?
[03:26] <blackreggie> ok
[03:26] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, well you *may* have to make a Google account, but that is easy enough to do
[03:26] <RevSpecies116> But the site is docs.google.com
[03:26] <magn3ts> VLC will play anything. I've only had one filetype not work with VLC and I've never found anything that will play them anyway.
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> blackreggie, you might want to try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:27] <darkorical> well so much for that one I read on pcsx2 it requires a bios dump from your PS2 .. and my ps2 is dead oh well back to craigslist I go
[03:27] <blackreggie> whats that
[03:27] <gaelfx> I prefer SMPlayer since it's easy to make it use vdpau
[03:27] <RevSpecies116> And you can upload the .pdf, and in the 'presentation' component of google docs, you can export as a .ppt
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> mplayer (cli) FTW ;)
[03:28] <magn3ts> darkorical, all ps2 emus require a bios file. A google search will reveal thousands of links. it's a tiny file and extracting the rom yourself is not easy.
[03:28] <gaelfx> ZykoticK9: nah, for CLI, VLC is more interesting, you can get it to play the movie in terminal with amazing ascii art :D
[03:28] <darkorical> magn3ts true but also a downloaded version = Illeagle
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> magn3ts, now that advice is verging on !wares
[03:29] <magn3ts> darkorical, and I'm sure emulating the console and using it to play retail games is too.
[03:29] <magn3ts> ZykoticK9, sorry.
[03:29] <ZykoticK9> gaelfx, "mplayer -vo aa foo" does the same thing ;)
[03:29] <gaelfx> ZykoticK9: learn something every day :D
[03:29] <gaelfx> ever compared the two for quality?
[03:30] <gaelfx> whose ascii art is better?
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> LOL - quality of ASCII - that's rich ;)
[03:30] <magn3ts> last time I used mplayer with vdpau, it performed terribly on some 720p mkv and VLC powered through.
[03:31] <Mission_Control> is there a utility out there I can use to edit the xorg.config file
[03:31] <friskd> Was httpd  renamed in ubuntu
[03:31] <ZykoticK9> gaelfx, i imagine they are both using the same aalibrary
[03:31] <gaelfx> I've never had a problem with it, besides, I prefer not to heat up my cpu where it isn't necessary
[03:31] <magn3ts> friskd, I think so.
[03:31] <ZykoticK9> Mission_Control, vi (it's a joke, not serious)
[03:31] <gaelfx> ZykoticK9: I guess that's probably true, but I never really looked into it too deeply, I might have to find out now
[03:31] <friskd> magn3ts: to what?
[03:32] <RevSpecies116> magn3ts, then you must know what it was changed to
[03:32] <friskd> i want to run httpd -S
[03:32] <friskd> but i can't because that doesn't exists
[03:32] <ray24> ?join #bearattack
[03:32] <Mission_Control> I don't get it
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> Mission_Control, any text editor can edit xorg.conf
[03:32] <Mission_Control> I know
[03:32] <Mission_Control> but I just don't want to make any mistakes
[03:33] <gaelfx> friskd: you could check in Synaptic and see if the package is available but uninstalled
[03:33] <Mission_Control> I've edited stuff like that and screwed up very easily
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> Mission_Control, make a backup first
[03:33] <Mission_Control> ok
[03:33] <Mission_Control> why didn't I think of that :p
[03:34] <magn3ts> friskd, RevSpecies116 I thought it was just apache now
[03:34] <busigast> tweak unity like a boss, drink guiness lika boss, fart my gf in the face like a boss
[03:34] <friskd> magn3ts: i thought so too, but doing apache -S still gives me "command not found"
[03:34] <RevSpecies116> magn3ts, seems you are correct: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[03:34] <RevSpecies116> httpd seems to be a part of apache2
[03:35] <magn3ts> friskd, what are you trying to do? I invoke apache2 directyl via 'apache2' but I use `sudo service <> stop` most of the time.
[03:35] <magn3ts> there used to be apache2ctl as well, idk if it's still around
[03:35] <magn3ts> eventually I type "apache" and then 'tab' until I see what I want.
[03:35] <friskd> magn3ts: i want to do httpd -S
[03:35] <friskd> git get the default layout
[03:35] <friskd> *to get
[03:35] <magn3ts> yeah, I don't know, sorry.
[03:36] <Lobo29> how can i change channels ?
[03:36] <friskd> if i just do apache2.   i get apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[03:36] <V33X> I'm having an internet connection problem...
[03:37] <V33X> So could someone help me?
[03:38] <RevSpecies116> V33X: We can try :)
[03:39] <V33X> ok
[03:39] <V33X> Well, I'm not sure what happened, but I can't install updates
[03:39] <V33X> and I can't download things via Ubuntu's back-end Software Center
[03:39] <V33X> However, I can connect to the internet
[03:39] <V33X> and use Pidgin...
[03:40] <mattk_> is there anyway to enable ssh on a live usb version of Ubuntu?
[03:40] <V33X> When I try to install something via Ubuntu's Software Center, it says "Check your internet connection"
[03:40] <RevSpecies116> V33X: the username you use to update Ubuntu has sudo capabilities?
[03:40] <V33X> Yes
[03:40] <V33X> it's the only username on my computer
[03:41] <RevSpecies116> And sudo apt-get commands work to get stuff on the terminal?
[03:41] <V33X> yes
[03:41] <rww> mattk_: assuming you mean the server, not the client, install the 'openssh-server' package
[03:41] <V33X> that's the odd thing, lol
[03:41] <mattk_> yeah the server
[03:41] <RevSpecies116> That IS odd, V33X  :)
[03:41] <V33X> because Ubuntu's Software Center is the APT-GET area thingy
[03:41] <V33X> OH
[03:42] <V33X> ALSO
[03:42] <rww> V33X: can you keep your responses to one line instead of using [Enter] as punctuation, please :)
[03:42] <RevSpecies116> A user called Marchosius on the Ubuntu forums is having a similar issue
[03:43] <V33X> Sorry. Anyhow, if I go to Network Settings, Host Settings: Host name: HyperNova      Domain name: domain.invalid
[03:43] <V33X> >Domain.invalid         that can't be right
[03:45] <RevSpecies116> Also raised on Launcpah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/775645
[03:46] <V33X> So what should I do?
[03:46] <V33X> Oh
[03:47] <RevSpecies116> I personally don't use the USC, though, so don't know how to cure it :(
[03:48] <Pi31415> i want to try some legacy code that has quit working.  if i install 9.04 from scratch and upgrade and then use synaptic, will i get only the 9.04 supported components?   i.e. i won't be getting any upgrades unless so requested.
[03:49] <V33X> Well, thanks. But I SERIOUSLY need to install some important system updates
[03:49] <V33X> Thanks, though. Bye
[03:49] <Pi31415> oooops.  make that update instead of upgrade.....
[03:49] <motafoca> guys, i changed motherboards so my partition table has changed, i reiinstalled windows now im trying to fix grub, but this grub2 is just annoyingly diferent
[03:49] <motafoca> how to just generate a hole new menu?
[03:50] <donkeyinspace> hello! i would like to install ubuntu in a usb pendrive. right know i have a "failed" ubuntu installation on that usb pen drive and when the pen is connected to the computerboot dont go beyond the mother board logo. what can i do?
[03:50] <motafoca> i have 4 disks and dont wanna keep placing the correct order just because grub2 is so dam complicated
[03:50] <Pi31415> donkeyinspace:  are you trying 11.04?  i tried to generate a pen drive for a netbook, but was never successful.
[03:51] <Vustom> Is it possible to add a URL to a launcher?
[03:51] <donkeyinspace> Pi31415 , i am trying 10.10
[03:51] <Pi31415> maybe some one can comment on whether 11.04 can successfully generate a USB memory stick version of the O/S
[03:52] <motafoca> how to re-generate grub menu if disk order has changed? i have 4 disks
[03:52] <magn3ts> Pi31415, why on earth would you want to install 9.04 and upgrade across 4 versions?
[03:54] <Pi31415> magn3ts:  sorry, worded it wrong.  just 9.04 and update it and install gcc etc for 9.04 and use it in the last state supported as 9.04.  that clearer?
[03:55] <magn3ts> Pi31415, if you install 9.04 and fetch updates, you will stay in 9.04 as long as you decline the prompts to dist-upgrade.
[03:55] <magn3ts> Pi31415, if you're doing it for a specific compiler version, there's probably an easier way to do this though.
[03:56] <Pi31415> magn3ts:  thanks for the information.  I have another computer to clean and install 9.04 on.  i'm looking for g77 for some legacy code that quit recently with gfortran.  looking for the UNIX time() function that is no longer supported.
[03:57] <Pi31415> magn3ts:  as far as i can tell, g77 is not available in synaptic or anywhere else that i've looked to install in 11.04
[03:57] <Gregace> Pi31415, I suggest you use the 10.4 it's the LTSsssssss
[03:57] <magn3ts> Pi31415, gfortran
[03:58] <magn3ts> oops thats not the same thing
[03:58] <Pi31415> Gregace:  i'm using 11.04 and need g77, which is not longer supported since 10.04 i think
[03:59] <ouyes> Unable to install Ubuntu 10.04.2, I used unetbootin to make a usb boot stick, and tried to boot and install ubuntu from the usb stick, but I failed, there came out a prompt command line on the screen, told me it cannot find something? what is wrong?
[03:59] <friskd> how do i fix this error
[03:59] <friskd> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[03:59] <Belias> Hello
[03:59] <Belias> what is the best software to record the screen in linux?
[04:00] <Pi31415> and there is a bug in lame that appeared in converted some .aiff files that i convert to .mp3    the files are morse code, monotone and mono channel, but they get some applitude garbage that sounds bad.
[04:01] <Pi31415> Belias:  there is a screen capture called snapshot.  Applications -> Accessories -> Take Screenshot
[04:01] <Belias> Pi31415: i mean video
[04:02] <friskd> thumbs  so to use  apache2 i need to do sudo service apache2 -action
[04:02] <Vustom> How would I go about launching a URL from the launcher that does the same as this would? <INPUT= 'mywindow','width=400,height=200,toolbar=yes, location=yes,directories=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,copyhistory=yes, resizable=yes')">
[04:02] <friskd> start|stop|graceful-stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean|status
[04:02] <friskd> those being my options
[04:04] <ilyaZ> Ubuntu needs to use firefox feedback  mechanism since it's a super awesome design pattern. Firefox => Help => Submit Feedback => "Firefox made me (happy|sad) because...." [textbox].     Where is the right place to submit that feature request?
[04:06] <Gregace> ouyes, have you check your iso ?
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> ilyaZ, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ (currently not resolving for me) or file a bug as "wishlist/feature request" - the first being the easier option
[04:07] <Gregace> ouyes, I suggest you do a checksum of your install iso
[04:08] <ouyes> Gregace, yes md5sum
[04:08] <ilyaZ> ZykoticK9, thanks! q: easier on the development front or on my end?
[04:08] <Gregace> and the iso is alright ?
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> ilyaZ, easier on your end
[04:08] <ouyes> Gregace, yes man
[04:08] <Gregace> are you running uunetbootin from linux or windows or mac ?
[04:09] <ZykoticK9> Gregace, md5sum of a Unetbootin USB is going to fail.
[04:09] <ZykoticK9> Gregace, oh you mean the ISO - sorry my bad
[04:09] <Belias> please help
[04:09] <Belias> want to record video on screen in linux
[04:09] <RevSpecies116> Belias, we can try :)
[04:10] <RevSpecies116> From a camera, Belias? Or you mean record what you are doing with your desktop and mouse to a video?
[04:12] <friskd> In case anyone cares...   httpd was renamed to apache, but you can't use apache as a command
[04:12] <friskd> you have to do apache2ctl
[04:12] <Belias> RevSpecies116: what is happening on desktop
[04:13] <RevSpecies116> Belias, yes you can - it was mentioned earlier in this chat - let me go see if I can find it :)
[04:15] <feyd> I'm desperately seeking help in xfce 4.8 - having massive issues at startup for every reboot
[04:16] <mrdeb> feyd: yes
[04:16] <feyd> mrdeb: so a little while ago I was having issues with sound, it would start up muted, and unmuting did nothing
[04:16] <ZykoticK9> Belias, gtk-recordmydesktop is a GUI option, ffmpeg is a CLI option.  Good luck.
[04:16] <mrdeb> yes?
[04:16] <feyd> mrdeb: fixed it by removing .pulse dir and pulsecookie, I restarted, and now none of my panels will start, nor will compiz
[04:17] <Belias> ZykoticK9: ok
[04:17] <Belias> will have a look :)
[04:17] <feyd> mrdeb: and on top of that, the sound breaks on every restart too. There has been no significant changes to my system at all in the past week, this stuff started just an  hour ago
[04:18] <RevSpecies116> Thanls, ZykoticK9 :)
[04:18] <gaelfx> is there any tool I can use to check the SMART status of a drive that's connected via USB?
[04:18] <Bstarek> hello everybody
[04:18] <Bstarek> i got this weird problem, everytime i minimize a window, it disappears!! :)
[04:19] <Mission_Control> hellote
[04:19] <KM0201> Belias: recordmydesktop is dead nuts simple, if thats your goal
[04:19] <Belias> ok
[04:19] <sisal> Hi. VLC and Totem randomly freezing whole PC, even with low bitrate files (.avi), no CPU usage spikes or background process fighting for priority. Ubuntu 11.04 32bit - Barton 1,8GHz - 1GB RAM - Ati x1950 (default open-source driver). Thanks in advance for any ideas.
[04:19] <RevSpecies116> Looks like VLC can also capture the desktop
[04:19] <KM0201> sisal: it's a bug w/ VLC... i've had no issues w/ totem
[04:19] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: really?  how?
[04:20] <RevSpecies116> Open up VLC
[04:20] <Bstarek> everytime i minimize a window, it disappears! anybody knows about this???
[04:20] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  you should have a panel on bottom of screen that you can click on to bring window back to desktop.  if you are serious about your question.
[04:20] <KM0201> !bug 743323 | sisal
[04:20] <blackreggie> thanks guys vlc is legit
[04:20] <RevSpecies116> And Media->Convert/Save...
[04:20] <Bstarek> pi31415, thats what i am saying, there is nothing on the bottom panel....
[04:20] <RevSpecies116> And Capture Device tab
[04:21] <RevSpecies116> And change the capture device to 'Desktop'
[04:21] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  there are three buttons, X will kill the window and the _ (underscore is the minimize)
[04:21] <RevSpecies116> :)
[04:21] <Bstarek> pi31415, my friend, i have using ubuntu for 3 years now.....this has never happened to me before
[04:22] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: Are you confirming you do not have a bottom panel
[04:22] <ZykoticK9> Bstarek, welcome to Unity ;)
[04:22] <Bstarek> pi31415, i even switched workspace (ctrl-atl-direction) and still nothing on the other workplaces...
[04:22] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  sorry, didn't mean to offend.  hard to know experience levels.   i use ubuntu classic and not Unity
[04:22] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: You are using 11.04 Ubuntu?
[04:23] <RevSpecies116> As the windows no minimize to the LEFT, not the bottom ;)
[04:23] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: well, that vlc tool shows some very strange behavior for me... i'll keep using record my desktop
[04:23] <RevSpecies116> no = now
[04:23] <Bstarek> pi31415, i am using ubuntu classic and will always use it :), its ok my friend im not offended at all
[04:23] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  might try logging out and log back in using ubuntu classic to see if problem persists.
[04:23] <Bstarek> pi31415, i do have a bottom panel....nothing on it...
[04:23] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  ummmmm.  don't have a clue on that one.
[04:24] <RevSpecies116> KM0201: I have similar problems, but then again this laptop is not made to do intensive stuff ;)
[04:24] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: neither is mine.. :)... but recordmydesktop works well.
[04:25] <trobrock> I used to be able to add lines to the /etc/ssh/sshd_known_hosts file in order to not get the check to trust the connection before sshing to a server, but this no longer seems to work, the entries created in the known_hosts file seem to be unique to the machine now. Is there any way to do this?
[04:25] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  how about going to System -> Preferences -> Appearance and trying another theme?
[04:25] <Bstarek> pi31415, weird....
[04:25] <Belias> I will stick with windows!
[04:26] <RevSpecies116> I'm going to give recordmydesktop a shot too, then, KM0201 :) Thanks for that recommendation. Can it record to webM?
[04:26] <Belias> can't tolerate this complications
[04:26] <Belias> it works
[04:26] <Belias> but no options
[04:26] <feyd> can anyone help with xfce 4.8 startup issues
[04:26] <Bstarek> pi31415, i tried to switch appearance....still nothing :)
[04:26] <RevSpecies116> Yes, Ubuntu just works, Belias
[04:26] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: i don't see why it couldn't, it records in ogv format, then you could upload it anywhere you want i'd imagine
[04:26] <Bstarek> pi31415, im gonna try to google it once more  i guess :)
[04:26] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: Sound like a panel issue
[04:26] <KM0201> Belias: what do you mean "no options"...
[04:26] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: Almost like a part of the notifications has been removed
[04:27] <Belias> pause
[04:27] <Belias> compress
[04:27] <Belias> montage
[04:27] <Belias> like in Camtasia
[04:27] <FloodBot1> Belias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <ouyes> Gregace, I can install ubuntu 10.04.1 for usb stick
[04:27] <Pi31415> Bstarek:  I would try running a CD Live and see if it does the same thing.  that way you don't touch the hard drive........  that is, if you have the time and interest to try it.
[04:27] <KM0201> Belias: i have no idea what you're talking about... so... good luck w/ windows.. make sure your virus and malware software is up to date.
[04:27] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, looks like it...
[04:27] <KM0201> and dn't click on any links
[04:27] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: can you right click on an empty part of the lower panel
[04:28] <Belias> KM0201: do you mean antivirus?
[04:28] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, i can....i have options: add to....remove....
[04:28] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: and an Add Panel... option comes up?
[04:28] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, properties...
[04:28] <RevSpecies116> There is the *possibility* that part of the panel was removed
[04:28] <KM0201> antivirus-virus, u knew what i meant, although i'd consider norton and mcaffee a version of windows viruses
[04:28] <sisal> KM0201: !bug 743323 doesn't looks like same problem to me, Totem is crashing exactly same way without excessive memory  usage.
[04:28] <RevSpecies116> I don't know which panel addon is the task bar at the lower part
[04:28] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, i have even tried to remove a panel and create another one....
[04:29] <KM0201> sisal: dunno, i'v ehad no issues w/ totem.. vlc on the other hand.. lots of issues.
[04:29] <Belias> KM0201: avg is good
[04:29] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, looks like something has crashed....
[04:29] <KM0201> Belias: i didn't say anything about avg
[04:29] <mrdeb> KM0201: what issues
[04:29] <flametai1> Belias, I'll stick with Avast xP
[04:29] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: bummer :(
[04:29] <KM0201> mrdeb: vlc locking up, memory leaks, etc..
[04:29] <mrdeb> where lockig up
[04:29] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, im sure it will come back somehow lol!!
[04:30] <RevSpecies116> Belias, I'll stick to not visiting dodgy websites, thanks :)
[04:30] <Bstarek> Revspecies116, anyway guys thanks for the help!! im out :)
[04:30] <RevSpecies116> Bstarek: bye :)
[04:30] <kescc> change Alt+F2 shortcut to the Right Windows key? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770970 Please take a look and see if you can help me, have ben trying to figure out this all day! Thanks
[04:31] <RevSpecies116> I think VLC's power is also its biggest weakness - it is so nebulus that issues are hard to track within it
[04:31] <RevSpecies116> But it has been and always will be [until it isn't ;) ] my choice for video and dvd playback :)
[04:32] <kescc> change Alt+F2 shortcut to the Right Windows key? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770970 Please take a look and see if you can help me, have ben trying to figure out this all day! Thanks
[04:33] <Belias> hey
[04:33] <crmira> hola desde chile
[04:33] <Belias> am I getting used to it ubuntu? :)
[04:33] <crmira> hola desde chile hola
[04:34] <gaelfx> crmira: what language do they speak in Chile?
[04:34] <crmira> español
[04:34] <gaelfx> !es > crmira
[04:34] <IdleOne> !es | crmira
[04:34] <crmira> you from
[04:35] <gaelfx> crmira: I'm from the US
[04:35] <crmira> california ???
[04:35] <Zelozelos> anyone know if gnome holds any cursor settings? this has been bugging me for a while now, but in gnome with or without compiz when you change your cursor, it only changes in windows, not window boards, desktop, panels etc. running xfce, pointers change easily
[04:36] <gaelfx> nope
[04:36] <gaelfx> I live in China now
[04:37] <Zelozelos> the same issue with debian, if you use xfce, nice pointers, gnome ugly white or black
[04:38] <Zelozelos> googleing is bleak, just the same info over and over again they all keep saying to change the default.theme line to whatever current mouse theme u want, still dosent change in those places
[04:38] <Gregace> ouyes, Cool man ! That's the one I'm using on my eee901, it's always better to run the LTS
[04:38] <gaelfx> is there any program to check SMART status on a USB HDD?
[04:39] <Zelozelos> maybe the developers are right, nobody cares about pointers anymore
[04:39] <Loshki> gaelfx: smartctl and gsmartcontrol (in the gsmartmontools package I think)
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> gaelfx, the only SMART program i know is the cli smartmontools (not sure if it does USB, don't see why not)
[04:40] <gaelfx> Loshki: I do have gsmartcontrol, but it still can't get the SMART status of the drive
[04:40] <Loshki> gaelfx: oops, didn't notice the USB bit. AFAIK, you can't get SMART data via USB....
[04:41] <gaelfx> well, I was reading some google results, but most of them were from about 4 years ago, they mostly said it really depends on the chip in the enclosure, but I'm not sure how to figure out what chip it's actually using
[04:41] <gaelfx> Loshki: that's ok, at least you tried to answer
[04:42] <gaelfx> if I could figure out what chip it's using, maybe I could figure out why the bus speed on it is so slow (it's USB3.0, but it only ever runs at 705Mbps)
[04:43] <Loshki> gaelfx: well, I see things like http://www.ariolic.com/activesmart/usb-smart.html, so apparently it's possible, but I've never managed to make it work via usb...
[04:43] <phong_> hi guys, is there winamp for linux?
[04:43] <phong_> or any similar type of winamp for linux?
[04:43] <qin> phong_: Audacious
[04:43] <phong_> how can i instlal that?
[04:43] <qin> sudo apt-get install audacious
[04:44]  * KM0201 <3's audacious
[04:44] <phong_> qin but will it has radio shoutcast?
[04:44] <phong_> i really want something where it has internet radio
[04:44] <phong_> I know winamp for windows has Shoutcast radio
[04:44] <KM0201> phong_: do you have a link to a shoutcast?.. i'll try to test one.
[04:45] <phong_> i don't
[04:45] <din> phong_: mpd
[04:45] <phong_> but if you use winamp u will have it
[04:45] <qin> phong_: Maybe plugins, anyway, you can play shoutcats links with it, or vls, or mplayer
[04:45] <KM0201> phong_: why on earth would i have winamp
[04:45] <phong_> KM0201, because in winamp. i just click on the radio channel
[04:45] <phong_> i dont know what u meant link shoutcast.
[04:46] <qin> phong_: www.shoutcast.com, radios are listed there
[04:47] <phong_> qin, i just click on the link?
[04:47] <phong_> no need to install nothing?
[04:47] <gaelfx> Loshki: yeah, I saw that one too. Right now, I'm trying to figure out the chipset that my dock uses, maybe that can shed more light on what I have to do to get it to work
[04:47] <KM0201> phong_: i just clicked on a station and it worked.
[04:48] <phong_> it won't for me: sale-qt7az-2407451629@craigslist.org
[04:48] <phong_> oops
[04:48] <qin> phong_: Most likely you want restricted formats and vlc.
[04:48] <phong_> qin, TypeError: mcval.plsFun is not a function
[04:48] <phong_> qin, that is when i clicked on the link: TypeError: mcval.plsFun is not a function
[04:49] <KM0201> phong_: it's working fien for me
[04:49] <phong_> do i need codec?
[04:49] <KM0201> phong_: possible i guess... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:49] <RevSpecies116> Working fine for me - Firefox
[04:50] <phong_> KM0201, 198MB to download ;)
[04:50] <sisal> phong_: You can get shoutcast radios to Banshee player with "Radio Station Fetcher" or "LiveRadio" extension.
[04:50] <Zorael> What could have happened if userspace is only allowed to allocate 1gb ram out of a total 2gb? It just starts to swap and never gets past 1150mb. The rest seems reserved for disk cache
[04:50] <KM0201> phong_: ok.. you should have installed them during install.. to be truthful, but thats irrelevant now.
[04:50] <KM0201> sisal: i believe rhythmbox has that as well.
[04:51] <phong_> oh ok
[04:51] <phong_> KM0201, is there any good things i need to know more about linux?
[04:51] <phong_> any cool useful softwares for linux?
[04:52] <KM0201> phong_: probably plenty, but at this point, they'll fall on deaf ears to you, use the OS, as you encounter problems/concerns, ask questions.
[04:52] <eiriksvin> i got a question for anyone who might know, I'm trying to run this is the terminal, it pops up, but then disappears how do I get it to stay?
[04:52] <RevSpecies116> phong_: If you are listening to internet radio - you shouldn't be worried about a one off 200MB install
[04:52] <RevSpecies116> When streaming most likely uses 2GB each month?
[04:52] <KM0201> eiriksvin: what terminal emulator are you running?  gnome-terminal or what?
[04:53] <eiriksvin> #!/bin/sh
[04:53] <eiriksvin> # make this script executable in order to use it
[04:53] <eiriksvin> iwconfig ath0 | grep Quality # where ath0 = your device name
[04:53] <KM0201> ..
[04:53] <phong_> is ubuntu any diff from fedora?
[04:53] <eiriksvin> i have it set up to show wlan0
[04:53] <phong_> what i can do in ubuntu can be done in fedora?
[04:53] <RevSpecies116> Yes, phong_ but not in too many ways
[04:53] <Belias> why some people prefer mint?
[04:53] <RevSpecies116> Yes, phong_ :)
[04:54] <RevSpecies116> Personal choice, Belias :)
[04:54] <phong_> but i notice that ubuntu is more popular
[04:54] <KM0201> phong_: there might be some minor variations in "how" you do it, but yes, anything you can do in fedora, you can do in ubuntu.
[04:54] <RevSpecies116> Like the question 'how long is a piece of string' ;)
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> phong_, Ubuntu has been on top of Distrowatch for 6 years (read that somewhere today)
[04:55] <eiriksvin> it runs fine when I drop it into a terminal on its own
[04:55] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: thats kinda misleading n my opinion, since it really only counts "hits" not what is actually in use.
[04:55] <eiriksvin>  iwconfig wlan0 | grep Quality
[04:55] <phong_> does fedora also use 'sudo' ?
[04:55] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: but it does show a lot of people are interested in ubuntu
[04:55] <phong_> or 'sudo apt-get'
[04:56] <RevSpecies116> YUM on Fedora, I believe
[04:56] <KM0201> phong_: you can create a sudo user in fedora, but fedora does not use apt-get... it uses YUM...
[04:56] <phong_> oh
[04:56] <phong_> KM0201, than it is different in commands
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, i don't think there is any disagreement, Ubuntu is the most popular GNU/Linux distro (tyranny of the majority?)
[04:56] <RevSpecies116> Fedora is also RPM based, Ubuntu is DEB based
[04:56] <viking667> Anyone here run Qemu? I'm having a little trouble getting sound to work.
[04:56] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: i'd agree w/ that.
[04:57] <Firefishe> Has anyone backported the kde 4.6.x tree for 10.04 LTS yet?
[04:57] <KM0201> phong_: did you not pay attention to what i said.. "How you do it, may be different.. but you should be able to do everything in ubuntu, you did in fedora"
[04:57] <phong_> proably 'YUM install'
[04:57] <RevSpecies116> Unknown, phong_ I don't use Fedora :)
[04:57] <viking667> hm. "apt-get install ...."
[04:57] <sisal> phong_: Fedora is usually stuffed up with newest toys on the playground, with all pros and cons. Ubuntu is better for new unix users, since it has really strong supportive community.
[04:57] <KM0201> viking667: tried it   ..... not found.. :)
[04:58] <viking667> KM0201: uhm? You're using UBuntu now, correct?
[04:58] <viking667> Sorry, I only just joined.
[04:58] <eiriksvin> how do I get  this: iwconfig wlan0 | grep Quality       to show the terminal, and not exit the terminal before I can see it?
[04:58] <KM0201> viking667: its a joke..  "...." is not a package.. i guess it was only funny to me
[04:58] <mattk_> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu without a monitor?
[04:58] <phong_> sisal, i also notice that more people in #ubuntu then #fedora
[04:58] <viking667> KM0201: ah. I see.
[04:58] <phong_> ;)
[04:59] <KM0201> eiriksvin: it's not closing when i run it.
[04:59] <lfsD> mattk you do it very carefully
[04:59] <viking667> phong_: that's absolutely no guide at all. That just means more people have joined the IRC channel.
[04:59] <phong_> sisal, KM0201 so conclusion: i'll stick with Ubuntu
[04:59] <eiriksvin> mine is
[04:59] <lfsD> or you just find a new monitor
[04:59] <KM0201> eiriksvin: which terminal emulator are you using?
[04:59] <eiriksvin> gnome 2.32.1
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> viking667, i think an argument could be made that more people in the support channel might be a bad sign ;)
[05:00] <Belias> recordmydesktop is good
[05:00] <mattk_> lfsD: my video card is dead on my laptop. I remoted into XP and it still works. Tried to connect an external monitor and it didn't work
[05:00] <lfsD> or they are board and want some fun
[05:00] <eiriksvin> if I run the terminal then do it, it stays, but from the script and a Launcher it goes away
[05:00] <lfsD> did you make sure that under xp that you changed the settings to allow the connected monitor
[05:00] <RevSpecies116> mattk_: Restart the laptop with the external monitor plugged in and turned on
[05:01] <KM0201> eiriksvin: thats a desktop environment.. you're probably using gnome-terminal... try this... open a terminal, edit/profile preferences/ title and commands tab... at the bottom "When command exits" change it to "Hold terminal Open"
[05:01] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: you mean the fact there's over 1k here is a bad thing?  Actually, i've generally found the folks in #fedora, pretty friendly.
[05:01] <mattk_> RevSpecies116: That's kind of an insulting suggestion
[05:01] <RevSpecies116> If I start my laptop without the external monitor plugged in, and then remember to plug it in after Ubuntu has loaded, it will not pick it up
[05:02] <eiriksvin> i got it, now testing...
[05:02] <phong_> KM0201, last question: does fedora has similar type of 'software center' ?
[05:02] <mrdeb> Kasjopaja23: can you ask them why the like yum
[05:02] <lfsD> does anyone have any tips on making a linux distro?
[05:02] <lfsD> using ubuntu that is as a basis
[05:02] <Waynegrow> Hi
[05:02] <RevSpecies116> BUT if I plug in the external monitor and then turn on my laptop, the extrernal screen works
[05:02] <KM0201> phong_: if you have questionsa bout fedora, ask in #fedora.. to my knowledge, no it doesn't.
[05:02] <eiriksvin> yay, works like a charm!
[05:02] <phong_> KM0201, thanks . oh well...i like ubuntu
[05:02] <phong_> start to like more ubuntu
[05:02] <KM0201> eiriksvin: \o/oot
[05:03] <KM0201> :)
[05:03] <eiriksvin> SUPER WOOT buddy:)
[05:03] <matbee_> hey, I've got an issue where I no longer get any network connectivity --- but my interfaces all exist --- but, I no longer get that tool on my status bar which helps me connect to wifi networks
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, that "hold open" is neat, never knew about that before - thanks (much more elegant then what I was thinking of - outputting the grep to a file and opening it with an editor)
[05:03] <tx0105> fedora has a package manager....it's not as user friendly as Ubuntu's software manager...but it works
[05:03] <lfsD> i love ubuntu!!! i duel boot with sindows 7(ugh) and use my ubuntu more lol
[05:03] <mattk_> RevSpecies116: The GPU is dead. I know it's dead.
[05:03] <tx0105> it even has categories
[05:03] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: well, your way would have certainly worked as well.
[05:04] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: to my knowledge, gnome-terminal is the only terminal emulator that has tha toption.
[05:04] <KM0201> i know lxterminal doesn't
[05:04] <matbee_> I've opened everything "networking" on ubuntu, but, come to no conclusion to why it has left me
[05:04] <mrdeb> what doesnt
[05:04] <lfsD> mattk: you can see xp right? try to extend desktop to the plugged in monitor
[05:04] <eiriksvin> KM0201 my WoW is running at higher graphics on Ubuntu 11.04 Classic (No Effects) than it was on Win 7, so my nuking win7 was a WOOT!
[05:04] <RevSpecies116> mattk_: I'm surprised XP even boots without a valid GPU running
[05:04] <KM0201> lol
[05:05] <tx0105> eiriksvin what you using to run WoW?
[05:05] <mattk_> RevSpecies116: I used remote desktop
[05:05] <eiriksvin> Wine 1.2.3 with Winetricks (newest version)
[05:05] <phong_> KM0201, i can't really play shoutcast..it said i need  an x-shockwave\ flash
[05:05] <matbee_> Is there a way to bring back the "networking utility" that has since disappeared from Unity?
[05:06] <KM0201> phong_: sudo apt-get install flash-plugin  (I think.. lemme verify that)
[05:06] <tx0105> has WoW run well on Wine for a while? I tried to use Powerpoint 2003 and Wine didn't run it well at all
[05:06] <RevSpecies116> mattk_: Then I cannot help, unfortunately...
[05:06] <tx0105> maybe its worth another look
[05:06] <KM0201> phong_: actually... the version of flash in the repos sucks... so hold on a sec..
[05:06] <eiriksvin> KM0201 NOO!! phong_ don't do that
[05:06] <KM0201> eiriksvin: don't do what?
[05:06] <KM0201> flash works fine
[05:07] <eiriksvin> nooo, you want the NEW flash, cus its beast
[05:07] <mattk_> I just want to know if there is way to install ubuntu without a monitor. Can I install ubuntu server on my harddrive and transfer it back into the laptop and ssh into the machine
[05:07] <KM0201> oh, i totally agree.
[05:07] <phong_> eiriksvin, i can't play any of shoutcast radio
[05:07] <mattk_> that's all I want to do really
[05:07] <phong_> i need x-shockwave flash
[05:07] <KM0201> phong_: calm down.. go here, and download it...  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10.3_for_other_Linux_%28.tar.gz%29
[05:07] <eiriksvin> yeah, phong_ whats ur web browser?
[05:07] <phong_> the builtin
[05:08] <phong_> i have no idea
[05:08] <KM0201> phong_: just go to that link and download that .tar file
[05:08] <phong_> the one looks like a fox
[05:08] <eiriksvin> KM0201 yay, told you... that apt-get gives you the old one
[05:08] <qin> phong_: On website, hit help and preferencies, use own player
[05:08] <matbee_> Does anyone have any idea why my networking utility has disappeared from my ubuntu?
[05:08] <tx0105> can you get the latest flash off the adobe ppa?
[05:08] <KM0201> eiriksvin: thats why i stopped mid sentence..lol, i remembered the one in the repos sucks.
[05:09] <KM0201> phong_: did you download it.
[05:09] <tx0105> what's the version of flash we should be using?
[05:09] <eiriksvin> heh, c, i did come a long way:)
[05:09] <KM0201> it just takes time... :)
[05:09] <eiriksvin> Adobe Flash 10.3 on Mozilla Firefox 4
[05:09] <RevSpecies116> 10.3.xxx, tx0105
[05:09] <Zorael> anyone good at making sense of memory usage? I can only use a small bit of my RAM before it runs out and starts to swap fulltime. http://paste.ubuntu.com/615174/
[05:09] <KM0201> u know its funny, i helped soemone today that had the same install issue you had today.
[05:09] <phong_> KM0201, yes i did saved
[05:09] <lfsD> matbee you have to restart for it to come back up it sometimes glitches and it needs a restart...i just have forgotten the command line to restart it
[05:10] <KM0201> phong_: go to where ever you downloaded it, and extract it...
[05:10] <phong_> ok
[05:10] <tx0105> mine says 10.3.181
[05:10] <tx0105> i guess i have it
[05:10] <eiriksvin> tx0105 yeppers!
[05:10] <tx0105> i went to youtube and it gave me a link to get the latest version off adobe's site
[05:10] <phong_> KM0201, done
[05:10] <phong_> KM0201,  next?
[05:10] <KM0201> phong_: now go to the folder you extracted to... and you should see "libflashplayer.so"
[05:10] <phong_> yeap
[05:11] <RevSpecies116> KM0201: I'm proud of you showing a COMPLETE Ubuntu newbie a way of running bin files without anyway of using update manager to get updates for it ;)
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> Zorael, FYI you are actually only using 502 of your 2001 - the rest is being used for disk caching
[05:11] <KM0201> phong_: right click that .so file, and choose copy
[05:11] <phong_> KM0201, done, next?
[05:11] <grumbly> i just made a massive mistake and I dont know how to correct it.
[05:11] <KM0201> phong_: now, go to your home folder, and at the top, click "View/Show Hidden Files
[05:11] <Zorael> ZykoticK9: Yeah, and if I try to use more it just goes directly to swap; I can't use more than those 502 for userspace stuff
[05:12] <Zorael> ZykoticK9: swappiness is at 1
[05:12] <phong_> KM0201, yeap..next
[05:12] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: you'd be amazed at the patience i have... dealing w/ crazies all day keeps me sane outside of work
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> Zorael, sorry - that's beyond me.  Best of luck!
[05:12] <KM0201> phong_: go down to .mozilla and open that folder
[05:12] <Zorael> aw, okay, thanks
[05:12] <grumbly> I have an external disk that was formatted hfs+ but I just accidentally started a fat32 format...  it has ALL my everything on it and I was attempting to set up a second disk to back it up...
[05:12] <grumbly> HOW can i get it back?
[05:12] <phong_> KM0201, ok
[05:12] <eiriksvin> RevSpecies116 you can't give the apt-get its too old, and the other options aren't very reliable, I'd just say check the website every 3mo
[05:12] <KM0201> phong_: inside .mozilla should be a folder called firefox
[05:12] <KM0201> open it
[05:13] <phong_> KM0201, done
[05:13] <RevSpecies116> grumbly: I don't think you will be able to without spending $$$
[05:13] <grumbly> But the data is still there...
[05:13] <KM0201> phong_: now inside .mozilla/firefox   right click, create new folder, and create a folder named "plugins"
[05:13] <grumbly> shouldnt there be SOMETHING that can get it back?
[05:13] <RevSpecies116> eiriksvin: I'm sure adobe has a repo available for 11.04
[05:13] <eiriksvin> they do, but its OLD
[05:13] <KM0201> phong_: after you do that.. paste the libflashplayer.so inside the plugins folder
[05:13] <RevSpecies116> the apt-add-repository method would have been prefered?
[05:13] <phong_> KM0201, done, and plaste insdie that polder?
[05:14] <KM0201> phong_: yup
[05:14] <phong_> done
[05:14] <KM0201> phong_: then close, and restart firefox
[05:14] <phong_> ok
[05:14] <PCdoc> grumbly: the partition cannot be recovered like before  but the data can .. using a recovery software
[05:14] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: the version in the ubuntu repos, sucks... i never bothered to see if adobe had a repo fo rit.
[05:14] <prezident> hello people im trying to install virtualbox in my ubuntu 11.04 i get this error rc=-1908 The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing does anybody know why
[05:14] <prezident> ?
 the repo is really old
[05:14] <grumbly> PCdoc: Thats all I care about
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> grumbly, it appears that http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk doesn't support HFS...  bad news.
[05:14] <phong_> KM0201, why does it work like a charm?
[05:15] <grumbly> i just finished digitizing a whole crapload of videos from my kid years...
[05:15] <phong_> KM0201, thanks
[05:15] <phong_> KM0201, u're the best
[05:15] <grumbly> you've gotto be kidding me
[05:15] <KM0201> phong_: cuz i'm awesome..lol
[05:15] <PCdoc> grumbly: try using recuva from http://www.piriform.com
[05:15] <phong_> KM0201, yes master
[05:15] <phong_> KM0201, just like magic
[05:15] <KM0201> naa, it's just practice, that was actually pretty easy.. it's all just learning how to do stuff
[05:15] <grumbly> PCdoc: I dont have windows
[05:15] <prezident> does anybody know how to use vbox
[05:15] <prezident> ?
[05:16] <Viking667> heh. Sorry about that, was having issues getting my irssi profile copied...
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> prezident, yes - but there is a #vbox channel that might be better for your question.
[05:16] <prezident> ok cool thanx
[05:16] <RevSpecies116> PCDoc, there is a recuva for Linux?
[05:16]  * eiriksvin thinks: <phong_> KM0201, u're the best <= RET=TRUE!!!  :)
[05:16] <KM0201> lol
[05:16] <eiriksvin> heh
[05:17] <KM0201> i'ms ure some would beg to differ
[05:17] <Viking667> Anyhow, I'm trying to run qemu with a sound card, and I'm not having any luck... what do I need to look at? The guest OS (Win2000) sees that there's a ES1370 card in place, the volume application appears in the system tray, but I don't hear anything from the speakers.
[05:17] <PCdoc> grumbly: try this then http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[05:17] <RevSpecies116> phong_: The only 'payment' that is asked tis that you visit from time to time and help a few other people ;)
[05:17] <eiriksvin> :D
[05:17] <Viking667> mplayer on the host works fine...I've added the libvirt-qemu user to the audio and pulse groups, but still don't hear a blessed thing from qemu's guest operating system.
[05:17] <phong_> RevSpecies116, sure, but i dont see how i can ;)
[05:17] <phong_> lol
[05:17] <Ademan> anyone know of a semi-official PPA for apache ant?
[05:18] <RevSpecies116> Oh, not yet, phong_ - just whenever you feel like in the future :)
[05:18] <Viking667> hm? Ant? Isn't that in the official distro "universe or multiverse" already?
[05:18] <eiriksvin> KM0201 you have been the most cosistantly helpful person for complete n00bS that I have seen in a while
[05:18] <tx0105> does the linux kernel ever get updated via the online update or is that something that only get updated in a new release?
[05:18] <KM0201> i agree w/ RevSpecies116 i've learned a lot just by sitting in here watching other folks handle stuff.
[05:19] <KM0201> eiriksvin: meh... i had a lot of help when i was new.. "pay it forward"
[05:19] <RevSpecies116> You could be amazed, phong_, that you fix and issue by yourself, and then visit here one time and a user has the same issue and you can help that person out
[05:19] <Fezzler> 11.04 - no volume knob icon in toolbar?  How do I get that back?
[05:19] <phong_> RevSpecies116, yeap, i could help other with the same problem i had ;)
[05:19] <KM0201> Fezzler: .. i'm not using gnome anymore, but if ir ecall correctly, it's part of notification area, so right click the panel, add to panel, add "notification area".
[05:19] <Viking667> sorry, missed that...
[05:19] <RevSpecies116> bingo, phong_ :)
[05:19] <eiriksvin> remember all the trouble I had? now I'm running handmade scripts and dinking around with POL plugin scripting, and bash work
[05:19] <phong_> RevSpecies116, and he/she would said the same thing: u're super duper
[05:19] <phong_> lol
[05:19] <KM0201> it's either notification area, or indicator ... can't remember whichn
[05:19] <Viking667> ant is already in the things I'm using...
[05:20] <RevSpecies116> LOL, indeed, phong_ :)
[05:20] <Viking667> Ademan: hello?
[05:20] <phong_> RevSpecies116, and i would roll on the floor and laugh to death.
[05:20] <RevSpecies116> But I think the really BIG thing will be that the new user tells his/her friends that the Ubuntu community is great and better that 'this/that/other" community, and we get more Ubuntu converts
[05:21] <Ademan> Viking667: ah, didn't see your response earlier. Yes I'm on Lucid though, and the version there is too old
[05:21] <RevSpecies116> Remember #1 bug that Ubuntu wants to resolve is Windows ;)
[05:21] <Viking667> too ..... old.
[05:21] <eiriksvin> I would love to find a programming guide for noobs so I could start learning how to make my own little stuff...
[05:21] <Viking667> RevSpecies116: hahahahahahaah... plonk
[05:21] <Fezzler> KM0201>> What are you using?  No sound / volume option ther?
[05:21] <Viking667> KM0201: sorry, I think I missed that.
[05:21] <PCdoc> Fezzler: right click on the panel  and select add to panel from the menu. a box will appear. select "indicator applet" from the box and click add. and then close
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, actually, bug 1 was updated recently
[05:22] <KM0201> Fezzler: i'm not using gnome, so i'm going from memory... but i'm sure the volume applet, is either in notification area, or indicator applet.. try adding both of those t your panel, and see if its there (unless you've uninstalled it)
[05:22] <tx0105> The ubuntu community....and the linux community as a whole...is amazing
[05:22] <Ademan> eiriksvin: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ enjoy
[05:22]  * KM0201 laughs at ubottu 
[05:22] <Ademan> it's a great book that introduces you to programming
[05:22] <eiriksvin> Ademan r u kidding!! AWESOME!
[05:22] <phong_> is there a way to install Microsoft Office 2007 under linux?
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, oh - i guess i'm on crack????
[05:23] <KM0201> phong_: there's ways... to put it in Wine I believe (not sure how successful you'll be)... try to use Linux alternatives (open office, libre office, abiword, gnumeric, etc.)
[05:23] <RevSpecies116> :)
[05:23] <tx0105> Open Office/Libre Office are great...aside from powerpoint
[05:23] <Viking667> phong_: hm. Wine, perhaps?
[05:23] <tx0105> I have a hell of time getting Powerpoint 2007 presentations to work
[05:24] <tx0105> sometimes half the layers are missing in Libre
[05:24] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Sound must not be installed right has I have no volume indicator
[05:24] <tx0105> my big solution for office has been Virtualbox...i just installed Windows XP...works like a charm
[05:24] <phong_> KM0201, sorry i dont drink wine
[05:24] <KM0201> Viking667: it *can* run in wine... but that's kinda like buying a new car cuz you blew a tire.... if you wanna get off the MS tit... Office is a good program to start w/
[05:24] <rww> ZykoticK9: it was edited by a random Launchpad user. Wasn't updated by anyone that should be updating such things.
[05:24] <phong_> KM0201, what does it has to do with wine
[05:24] <KM0201> !wine
[05:24] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: Perhaps your solution could be found not in an application, but in the cloud: docs.google.com
[05:24] <rww> ZykoticK9: Thus, the change was reverted, as you see.
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks - so i'm not as "cracked" as I thought!
[05:25] <RevSpecies116> What was it changed to?
[05:25] <Ademan> rww go back to offtopic
[05:25] <tx0105> revspecies116 i use it for school (back getting my 2nd bachelors)...they go on and on about how much they hate Google Docs...i've never really messed with it
[05:25] <rww> RevSpecies116: they changed "Microsoft" to "Proprietary software", basically
[05:25] <RevSpecies116> Ahhhh, rww :)
[05:25] <RevSpecies116> Glad they changed it back
[05:26]  * PCdoc *yawns*
[05:26] <KM0201> Fezzler: ok.... have you verified that "indicator applet" is part of your panel?
[05:27] <KM0201> Fezzler: the volume applet, is part of indicator applet, if you add indicator applet, you should see the volume indicator come up
[05:27] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Yes sir.  And it ran a few things.  (i.e. - network connection icon
[05:27] <KM0201> Fezzler: ok... try this... sudo apt-get install indicator-sound
[05:27] <Fezzler> KM0201>> No sir
[05:28] <tx0105> so Google Docs should open Powerpoint 2007 presentations without an issue?
[05:28] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: There are inherent security issues with docs.google.com [but mainly 'user error' holes]
[05:28] <RevSpecies116> For example some corporations were using google docs to store their financial statements
[05:28] <RevSpecies116> making them wide open for the public
[05:29] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: Give it a shot, their presentation cloud function may surprise you
[05:29] <KM0201> Fezzler: did that command work?
[05:29] <tx0105> ya our school basically said the same thing...that and apparently you lose copyright on whatever you post on there
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, i'd say an even bigger issue with Google Docs is SaaS http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
[05:29] <RevSpecies116> I do not recommend uploading your super secret theisis, but other non critical presentations, give it a shot
[05:29] <tx0105> it's just presentations for class
[05:30] <Guest72824> Guys, I have a problem. My facebook videos dont play on firefox though on youtube they run perfect. any solution?
[05:30] <RyanP> I had a system hard drive fail. I replaced the hard drive and was re-installing, but accidently deleted an LVM volume group on another hard drive. Am I hosed?
[05:30] <tx0105> are there any alternatives to google docs without the security issues?
[05:30] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: I don't know how Copyright runs where you are, but here in NZ, Google cannot revoke my copyright on my work
[05:30] <N8Wulf> good morning,Banshee... any ideas why after 'quiting' it still runs in memory hours later?
[05:30] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Said I have the latest.  But when I run Indicator, adds duplicates of everything but no volume knob
[05:30] <RevSpecies116> They COULD use my work, but the copyright still applies to me
[05:31] <KM0201> Fezzler: hmm.
[05:31] <N8Wulf> not only in memory, >Top showed it using 100% of my CPU
[05:32] <grumbly> is there a way to read the raw data on disk that has been formated?
[05:32] <semitones> hey all -- i'm about to edit /etc/inittab so I can get redshift to start before gdm... any idea what I'm getting into?
[05:32] <tx0105> so security issues aside is Google Docs the best option? Or is there another alternative?
[05:32] <N8Wulf> yes, read hdd with recovery software
[05:32] <RevSpecies116> yes, grumbly - but I don't know of any free software that can do it
[05:32] <grumbly> N8Wulf: any free ones?
[05:32] <N8Wulf> hold on quick
[05:33] <grumbly> testdisk isnt doing what I need
[05:33] <IdleOne> !undelete
[05:33] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: I think Microsoft is offering similar could functionality with Office, but unsure
[05:33] <Fezzler> KM0201>> I have sound.  Just installed Hydrogen drum and used ALSA to listen to some beats
[05:33] <KM0201> hmm
[05:33] <RevSpecies116> I try not to use Micorosft products, but each their own
[05:33] <RevSpecies116> could = cloud
[05:34] <josefig> Hello, i'm looking for the cpu freq on 11.04 but i dont find the key for governor
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> IdleOne, grumbly needs HFS support...
[05:35] <grumbly> Thanks everyone...  I think Sleuthkit/Autopsy might work it
[05:35] <grumbly> i will be back if it doesnr
[05:35] <N8Wulf> check this link as well: http://www.makeuseof.com/pages/best-linux-software
[05:36] <eiriksvin> Ademan which Python should i get?
[05:37] <N8Wulf> Banshee using 100% CPU after quit... any ideas pls?
[05:37] <semitones> N8Wulf, did you check launchpad for relevant bug reports?
[05:38] <N8Wulf> not yet, good idea, will do thanx
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> N8Wulf, if it's using 100% CPU after you quit - obviously something has good wrong.  You could kill the process!?
[05:39] <N8Wulf> after quit yes
[05:39] <sisal> josefig: hwinfo --cpu
[05:39] <N8Wulf> I did killall it
[05:39] <KM0201> Fezzler: i honestly have no idea.
[05:39] <KM0201> thats weird.
[05:40] <ZykoticK9> N8Wulf, if killall didn't actually kill it - then use the "-9" option (last resort)
[05:40] <Fezzler> KM0201>> thanks  np
[05:40] <N8Wulf> it did thanx, but I'm not wanting to do so everytime though
[05:40] <KM0201> Fezzler: this is probabl a long shot, but when you right click the panel, and add to panel, you can't add volume indicator, right?
[05:41] <N8Wulf> and even while using it, sucks if my laptop turns into a dedicated Musicbox
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> N8Wulf, this is what happens when people use Microsoft technology on Linux (ie mono) </rant>
[05:41] <N8Wulf> shame... lol
[05:41] <chinnappan> please give me a link for samba
[05:41] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Correct.  And, the command line apt-get says I have it.  Also, I can seem to close or force quite ALSA Player
[05:42] <chinnappan> please give me a link for samba
[05:42] <KM0201> hmm
[05:42] <N8Wulf> I'm actually googling now how to replace banshee with rhythmbox or amarok rather
[05:42] <KM0201> !samba > chinnappan
[05:42] <josefig> sisal, it gives information about the cpu I need to know where to set the freq when the AC is plugged off.
[05:42] <Ademan> eiriksvin: get the version in the ubuntu repositories, probably 2.6 or (even better 2.7)
[05:42] <N8Wulf> anybody else here replace their banshee while using Unity?
[05:43] <RevSpecies116> Q: How would I find out how much Ubuntu relies on MONO and the MONO-framework?
[05:43] <Viking667> ... banshee? What the heck's that?
[05:43] <Ademan> eiriksvin: it depends on which ubuntu version you have, but anything newer than 2.5 is fine
[05:43] <N8Wulf> banshee music player
[05:43] <KM0201> !info banshee | Viking667
[05:43] <N8Wulf> standard with 11.04
[05:43] <RevSpecies116> banshee = iTune's-ish for linux
[05:44] <tx0105> i have to admit...for those that hate Unity...it grows on you after a while
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, too much unfortunately - tomboy/banshee - gnomedo
[05:44] <N8Wulf> agreed
[05:44] <eiriksvin> i got 11.04, but I run in in Classic, cus i don't care for Unity
[05:44] <tx0105> I've been forcing myself to use Unity and Gnome 3 (Fedora 15)....
[05:44] <tx0105> i figure they are future...aside from KDE
[05:44] <RevSpecies116> ZykoticK9: I ask because at least one thing that depends on MONO is being removed from 11.10 - Evolution
[05:44] <tx0105> I'm way more used to Unity
[05:44] <Ademan> eiriksvin: you probably have 2.7 then which is best. if you run python --version in a terminal you can find out
[05:44] <tx0105> Gnome 3 is still wierd
[05:44] <tx0105> weird
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, Evolution uses mono?
[05:45] <N8Wulf> NO EVOLUTION!!! NOOOO
[05:45] <RevSpecies116> I just want to know how many more packages need to be gone before MONO is gone
[05:45] <digger_1967> Haven't tried it yet tx0105 - what would you say are the major differences
[05:45] <RevSpecies116> Yep, Evolution depends on mono being installed
[05:45] <eiriksvin> yeppers i got 2.7.1+
[05:45] <N8Wulf> omg
[05:45] <Ademan> RevSpecies116: why not remove the mono packages and see what apt tells you will also be uninstalled?
[05:45] <eiriksvin> is there a gui for it?
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, actually evolution doesn't require Mono, but it does require TomBoy (which requires mono)
[05:46] <RevSpecies116> Ademan: here's the kicker ;)
[05:46] <RevSpecies116> Remove mono, you remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <mdgeorge1> hello
[05:46] <RevSpecies116> as ubuntu-desktop depends on mono ;)
[05:46] <N8Wulf> hi
[05:46] <eiriksvin> i'm looking for soething that can give me the little perks:P
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, because of Tomboy and the new media player!
[05:46] <mdgeorge1> I'm having trouble launching any games because /usr/games isn't getting into my path
[05:46] <Guest72824> My facebook videos dont play. i have latest version of adobe plugin installed. please help
[05:46] <Ademan> RevSpecies116: heh, well you're aware that ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage and you can safely remove it without adversely affecting anything, right?
[05:47] <mdgeorge1> can anyone help?
[05:47] <tom4ficus> Hi need help install 11.04 on 4gb ssd
[05:47] <N8Wulf> one step forward 2 steps back
[05:47] <Fezzler> KM0201>> I don't think my upgrade when well because I also don't have multiple desktop switching in lower right bar anymore either
[05:47] <KM0201> Fezzler: you upgraded from what to what
[05:47] <tx0105> digger_1967 there's no maximize/minimize button for your windows...i finally found a way to add them but that made things a bit annoying...its similar to Unity in a lot of ways though
[05:47] <Ademan> eiriksvin: you probably want IDLE or IPython
[05:47] <RevSpecies116> Ademan, and when I update to 12.04, will it not complain that I don't have this or that?
[05:47]  * trikfx slaps arvut__ around a bit with a large trout
[05:47] <eiriksvin> ok, looking
[05:48] <Fezzler> KM0201>> L to M to N
[05:48] <KM0201> hmm
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, remove ubuntu-destkop is a bad idea when upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu
[05:48] <tx0105> the dock is hidden...and you basically switch between windows by going to the top left where it says "activies" and you just select your window...I think they are trying to get people to use workspaces more than having 100 windows open
[05:48] <RevSpecies116> Exactly, ZykoticK9
[05:48] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Also installed ctrljack but don't see it in my menus
[05:48] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Lots of little stuff
[05:48] <Ademan> RevSpecies116: I actually have no idea what the upgrade software does, apt-get dist-upgrade should be fine, but you're not supposed to use that anyways...
[05:48] <rss> hi, my CDRW drive has not been detected, when I put a blank CD, nautilus pops up asking if I want to burn a CD, how to make it show in `Places' by default?
[05:48] <KM0201> Fezzler: are you using Unity, or Gnome 2.x?
[05:48] <mdgeorge1> does anyone know where the desktop gets it's PATH from?
[05:48] <sysdoc> Final ver of gnome3 in the repo's yet?
[05:49] <mdgeorge1> I'm having problems with both unity and gnome 3
[05:49] <KM0201> sysdoc: don't think so
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge1, check ~/.bashrc
[05:49] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Gnome
[05:49] <KM0201> mdgeorge1: lxde ftw!
[05:49] <RevSpecies116> mdgeorge1: they do not work together
[05:49] <tx0105> i woudln't recommend using gnome 3 in Ubuntu
[05:49] <KM0201> Fezzler: that's strange... i honestly don't know.
[05:49] <Pro> Ok. so I was wondering.
[05:49] <tx0105> I've never had good luck manually adding a DE like that
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge1, not so much "check" as, put your PATH in there.
[05:49] <Fezzler> KM0201>> I thought Unity doesn't work with nvidia FX series cards
[05:50] <Guest72824> guys. facebook videos wont play.. man help
[05:50] <Pro> I have ubuntu 11.04, and it blinks like it wants to go into hibernation mode
[05:50] <RevSpecies116> Install GNOME3 in 11.04 and you loose Unity - and it is NOT a bug
[05:50] <RevSpecies116> That is how it is meant to be
[05:50] <mdgeorge1> ZykoticK9: so not ~/.profile or /etc/environment?
[05:50] <eiriksvin> um, i also installed: gnome-netstatus-applet but i can't seem to find it, how do i run it?
[05:50] <Fezzler> I don't know what version of GNOME I have now  LOL
[05:50] <KM0201> Fezzler: unity seems kinda sketchy right now.. has some issues for some people, but there *was* an issue w/ the Nvidia drivers.. so it may not necessarily be a Unity problem, but an Nvidia problem.
[05:50] <tx0105> if anybody wants to try out Gnome 3....grab Fedora 15
[05:50] <tx0105> personally i'm liking Unity more though
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge1, actually i'd think ~/.profile would work as well
[05:51] <nincompooop> tx0105: hm.
[05:51] <Pro> anybody else ubuntu 11.04 blinks?
[05:51] <sisal> josefig: Ah you can try indicator-cpufreq ( http://ubuntuguide.net/change-and-monitor-cpu-frequency-scaling-in-ubuntu-11-04-with-indicator-cpufreq )
[05:51] <Fezzler> GNOME 2.32.1
[05:51] <mdgeorge1> ZykoticK9: actually it's in both of those other two and doesn't work
[05:51] <Pro> like it wants to go into hibernation
[05:51] <mdgeorge1> I will try .bashrc, although I don't see why that would work either
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge1, so try ~/.bashrc then
[05:51] <Fezzler> KM0201>> Well, my problem now.  LOL
[05:52] <KM0201> Fezzler: lol
[05:52] <RevSpecies116> I really with Canonical would provide Unity for 10.04LTS, but I asked Jono Bacon directly, and he said 'only if someone in the community backported it'
[05:52] <mdgeorge1> because my problem is with the desktop, rather than within a terminal
[05:52] <mike> Hello?
[05:52] <RevSpecies116> with = wish
[05:52] <Pro> how do I run my account as an administrator?
[05:52] <mdgeorge1> hello
[05:52] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: boy that would be a disaster i bet
[05:52] <Guest23851> I'm having this problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbpeyiOLEe8
[05:52] <Guest23851> I need some help
[05:52] <RevSpecies116> But I have patience till 12.04 ;)
[05:53] <Prof> RevSpecies116, know when that's coming out?
[05:53] <eiriksvin> yeah, nVIDIA is still "active but not in use" for me, but WoW and everything runs like a charm:)
[05:53] <KM0201> Prof: april 2012?
[05:53] <KM0201> lol
[05:53] <p1oooop> Guest23851: I just got nomirolled -_-
[05:53] <p1oooop> ...
[05:53] <KM0201> Prof: ubuntu version numbers indicate when they will be released... YY.MM  (12.04.. 2012/april)
[05:53] <Guest23851> lol
[05:53] <Guest23851> its this new thing im trying
[05:53] <p1oooop> better than being rickrolled XD
[05:53] <Guest23851> lols i made it
[05:53] <Prof> oo ok
[05:54] <p1oooop> aw dam, I just lost it again.
[05:54] <KM0201> Prof: pop quiz... when was 9.10 released?
[05:54] <Prof> KM0201, u know a lot about ubuntu?
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, oh oh i know i know :p
[05:54] <p1oooop> 11/2/09
[05:54] <p1oooop> I think
[05:54] <Prof> idk
[05:54] <KM0201> Prof: i've used it since birth..lol.. naa.. i've used it a while, so it's gotten easy.
[05:54] <Prof> when was it released?
[05:54] <gaelfx> KM0201: does that mean you were releases in January 2002?
[05:54] <p1oooop> I got it when it was released...
[05:54] <gaelfx> *released
[05:54] <tom4ficus> how do I get around 5.3gb min install ?
[05:54] <Prof> KM0201, do ur blink like it wants to go into hibernation mode?
[05:54] <KM0201> Prof: yeah, you didn't pay attention... "YY/MM".. so 9.10  was release in 2009/October
[05:55] <Prof> urs*
[05:55] <p1oooop> it was actually released in November, strangely enough
[05:55] <p1oooop> I think.
[05:55] <KM0201> Prof: does my what blink like it wants to go to hibernate?
[05:55] <p1oooop> wait no...
[05:55] <Prof> ur screen KM0201
[05:55] <p1oooop> 10/31/09
[05:55] <KM0201> Prof: no.
[05:55] <p1oooop> I have 9.04 right here :)
[05:55] <Prof> KM0201, think it's a bad install?
[05:55] <p1oooop> (as in the live CD)
[05:56] <p1oooop> I also have 9.10 XD
[05:56] <tx0105> 10.10 was my first distro :)
[05:56] <KM0201> Prof: could be.. or it could be something wonky w/ your graphics driver... i have cheap intel graphics on this laptop.. and i don't run any flashy effects, so its not unusual for me to not have display problems
[05:56] <RevSpecies116> Prof: April 2012
[05:56] <mdgeorge> ZykoticK9: actually, .profile worked.  I just forgot the "export"
[05:56] <RevSpecies116> My first Ubuntu was 6.06LTS :)
[05:56] <Prof> KM0201, i have no flashy graphics either. i just installed ubuntu a couple days ago.
[05:57] <Prof> < new to linux
[05:57] <KM0201> Prof: what version did you install?
[05:57] <Prof> 11.04
[05:57] <Prof> via usb
[05:57] <Prof> 1GB
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge, glad you figured it out!
[05:57] <Prof> o.O
[05:57]  * p1oooop forgot what his first ubuntu was
[05:57] <KM0201> ok.. and whats your problem again?.. your display keeps going to sleep?
[05:57] <p1oooop> I think it was 8.10 or something
[05:57] <p1oooop> yeah, 8.10
[05:57] <Prof> nah it's acts as if it wants to got o sleep.
[05:57] <p1oooop> when my laptop's HDD failed
[05:57] <Prof> llike how ur eyelids blink?
[05:57] <Prof> that's how the screen acts
[05:58] <tx0105> what sort of graphics issues have you had? I have a crappy intel graphics chip and i've had a number of graphics issues with the 11.04 releases (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, even Linux Mint 11)
[05:58] <Prof> does it for a quick second
[05:58] <mdgeorge> ZykoticK9: thanks for your help
[05:58] <p1oooop> Prof: it works with muscles? (lol)
[05:58] <Prof> lol
[05:58] <KM0201> RevSpecies116: i actually started w/ fedora 3 or 4.. used fedora till 5, then tried ubuntu 6.06.. and used ubuntu till 9.10, then debian for a while, and now i'm back to using ubuntu.
[05:58] <mdgeorge> my first linux was redhat 6
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> mdgeorge, you did it.  Glad to assist.
[05:58] <RevSpecies116> Redhat 6 was my real first time, too :)
[05:58] <p1oooop> I
[05:58] <Prof> p1oooop, lol
[05:58] <mdgeorge> you guys are making me feel old :)
[05:58] <p1oooop> I actually haven't seen linux ever since 8.10 :P
[05:59] <Prof> i might have to reinstall it.
[05:59] <KM0201> Prof: i honestly have no idea what on earth would cause that.
[05:59] <RevSpecies116> I still have Redhat 6 install disks :)
[05:59] <mindspider> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and Gnome 2.32.0. Is it possible for me to put a terminal line or launcher I can type custom commands into on the panel?
[05:59] <p1oooop> I've gone onto the linux website when I was about 10...
[05:59] <mdgeorge> RevSpecies116: me too :)
[05:59] <KM0201> Prof: did you install a restricted driver for your GPU (like from nvidia or from ATI?)
[05:59] <p1oooop> wondering "what the hell is i386?"
[05:59] <Prof> KM0201, nope, Ihaven't installed anything.
[05:59] <p1oooop> and wondering why there were so little amd64s around
[05:59] <p1oooop> and going WTH at PPC
[05:59] <KM0201> hmm
[05:59] <Prof> KM0201, i used a 1GB instead of a preferred 2GB
[06:00] <Prof> could that be a problem?
[06:00] <p1oooop> Prof: SWAP?
[06:00] <KM0201> Prof: i don't think that would have really mattered... cuz you installed "FROM" the USB, to an internal hard drive right?..
[06:00] <Prof> KM0201, right
[06:00] <Prof> idk about swap
[06:00] <Prof> o.O
[06:00] <p1oooop> ahh, flash drive
[06:00] <p1oooop> 1GB works fine.
[06:00] <KM0201> yeah, 1gig.. while like you said, not really recommended, it will probably work fine
[06:00] <p1oooop> as long as you don't plan to do anything with it... ;)
[06:00] <Prof> oh ok
[06:00] <Prof> idk then
[06:01] <Prof> maybe my computer can't handle it
[06:01] <tx0105> going to linux has been an excellent decision...i've had more fun on my computer in the past 6 months than I had for years
[06:01] <gaelfx> I used to be able to access my Ubuntu box by using its hostname in my browser (on a different computer), but it suddenly stopped working the other day (no changes to router settings or anything like that), how can I get that kind of access back?
[06:01] <tx0105> i love how fast things move and change
[06:01] <p1oooop> tx0105: agreed.
[06:01] <Prof> p1oooop, what u mean by do anything with it?
[06:01] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: I concur
[06:01] <Prof> i can't sleep since i've installed linux
[06:01]  * KM0201 can't sleep anyway
[06:01] <Prof> lol
[06:01] <Pokemon> !
[06:02] <p1oooop> Prof: as in use the 1GB as a system drive
[06:02] <tx0105> i ran the same crappy XP desktop for years...look at all the changes we've seen in just a few months...it's great
[06:02] <Prof> oh ok
[06:02]  * p1oooop has powned since he installed linux...
[06:02] <p1oooop> XD
[06:02] <Prof> i'm going to reinstall it tomorrow and see if that helps
[06:02] <tx0105> not to mention most of these DE's blow Windows or Mac OS X away in my opinion
[06:02] <Prof> how do u guys do the *<
[06:02] <p1oooop> Prof: I think that just automatically removes all problems.
[06:02] <p1oooop> XD
[06:02] <gaelfx> Prof: /me
[06:02] <KM0201> Prof: the what?
[06:02] <KM0201> ohh
[06:02] <Pokemon> no..
[06:02] <Prof> thanks
[06:03]  * KM0201 is just l33t
[06:03] <p1oooop> tx0105: I KNOW! XD
[06:03] <Prof> p1oooop, u don't think that would help?
[06:03]  * Prof uh
[06:03] <Prof> ok coo'
[06:03] <p1oooop> tx0105: that reminds me, I forgot to start up my compiz
[06:03] <p1oooop> Prof: unless it's hardware, yes
[06:03] <saliak> I've got an embedded system with an LCD output.  I want t script to run once my linux box has gotten it's ip address so I can display the IP on the LCD.  where would i put that script so it runs at the correct time?
[06:03] <Prof> hmm
[06:03] <p1oooop> Prof: then again, hardware problems are a little rare these days...
[06:03] <tx0105> ok this is a stupid question...b/c I'm still learning...what is compiz?
[06:03] <tx0105> i hear it mentioned a lot
[06:03] <p1oooop> !compiz | tx0105
[06:04] <Prof> p1oooop, how can I figure out what my specs are on linux? I can't go through "computer" anymore
[06:04] <p1oooop> hello reactor
[06:04] <Prof> -.-
[06:04] <KM0201> tx0105: it's what gives you all those crazy effects (wobbly windows, etc.)
[06:04] <p1oooop> Prof: erm... try hardinfo
[06:04] <RevSpecies116> compiz is a compositing windowing manager :)
[06:04] <p1oooop> Prof: that or lshw
[06:04] <KM0201> Prof: lspci will show a lot of hardware info
[06:04] <KM0201> or lshw
[06:04] <KM0201> yup
[06:04] <p1oooop> ^^
[06:04] <reactor> hi wats up
[06:05] <Prof> how do u run a program as a super user?
[06:05] <reactor> byebye
[06:05] <p1oooop> Prof: sudo
[06:05] <Pokemon> sudo -i
[06:05] <p1oooop> ^^ or that to switch to super-user
[06:05] <p1oooop> either one.
[06:05] <KM0201> Prof: there's very few programs you should have to run as root.. what do you need to run as root
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> Pokemon, "sudo -i" shouldn't really be suggested to new users - stick with sudo suggestions
[06:05] <p1oooop> lshw is run as root usually.
[06:05] <KM0201> oh ok.
[06:05] <Prof> yea lshw
[06:06] <p1oooop> oops, forgot to mention that :P
[06:06] <Prof> yeah i have intel
[06:06] <p1oooop> Prof: ?
[06:07] <p1oooop> nothin to do with running as super-user
[06:07] <Prof> ?
[06:07] <p1oooop> it's more of a security thing...
[06:07] <Prof> huh? i was lookin at my specs
[06:07] <p1oooop> Prof: ahh, K
[06:08] <Prof> damn u can install programs with commands?
[06:08] <tx0105> so how do you turn on compiz in 11.04
[06:08] <KM0201> Prof: of course..
[06:09] <Prof> i didn't know that
[06:09] <MonkeyDust> Prof: by using apt-get
[06:09] <KM0201> !apt-get > Prof
[06:10] <KM0201> Prof: w/ linux.. GUI tools, are always just GUI fronts, for command line programs... for instance, Apt-get's GUI front, is Synaptic
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, lol - actually apt-get is a cli front-end to dpkg
[06:10] <KM0201> wel,l yeah.
[06:10] <KM0201> good point
[06:10] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: You say you are on Unity?
[06:10] <Prof> whoa1!
[06:10] <Prof> foreign language
[06:11] <Prof> i'm going to reinstall it tomorrow
[06:11] <tx0105> Revspecies116 yes
[06:11]  * Prof goes zZz
[06:11] <Prof> ^
[06:11] <Prof> ha
[06:11] <KM0201> lol.. later
[06:11] <Prof> :)
[06:11] <FloodBot1> Prof: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <RevSpecies116> tx0105: If you are using Unity, be confident in knowing you are already running compiz
[06:11] <Prof> KM0201, will u be here tomorrow?
[06:11] <RevSpecies116> :)
[06:11] <KM0201> Prof: i'm around throughout the day, evening, etc.
[06:11] <Prof> ok cool
[06:11] <KM0201> in other words, i have no life
[06:11] <Prof> will install and report tomorrow
[06:11] <Prof> lol
[06:11] <Prof> u do
[06:11] <Prof> urs just the computer
[06:12] <RevSpecies116> what you are most likely after, tx0105, is ccsm ;) sudo apt-get install ccsm
[06:12] <Sofran> Quick question, are the devs working on allowing us to move the Unity sidebar around anytime soon?
[06:12] <Prof> pZ
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, are you who they are referring to in the !doesntwork factoid ;)
[06:12] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: lol, hardly... :) trust me.
[06:12] <RevSpecies116> Sofran: No
[06:12] <KM0201> i just have a lot of free time.. since i have no life
[06:12] <quick-> RevSpecies116:  it's sudo apt-get install compiz-manager \
[06:13] <MonkeyDust> what's the locations for passwords and keyrings?
[06:13] <KM0201> Sofran: i think their bigger concern, is getting the bugs, etc.. worked out of unity... where the sidebar is, and whether its movable, is probably low on the priority list
[06:13] <RevSpecies116> Sofran: The longer answer is: Mr Shuttleworth has said no
[06:13] <KM0201> !bug 1
[06:13] <C_Smith> we talking about getting the Desktop Cube working in Unity?
[06:13] <p1oooop> KM0201: HAHAHAHA!
[06:13] <tx0105> i will say...i dont think Unity will be as customizable as Gnome 3
[06:13] <KM0201> lol
[06:13] <quick-> RevSpecies116:  it's sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:13] <p1oooop> hilarious.
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> quick-, i think you mean compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:14] <p1oooop> I should get more friends on linux...
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> quick-, you beat me :)
[06:14] <p1oooop> one problem: most of them game.
[06:14] <RevSpecies116> quick-: it is also ccsm [at least on 10.04 :) ]
[06:14] <Sofran> What a shame, thanks for the answer though.
[06:14] <MonkeyDust> plov:
[06:14] <tx0105> their goal is to attract the non computer nerd...
[06:14] <quick-> how can i start irc in empathy , i have the account i am logged in but how to start it
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, ccsm is what the binary is called, not the package
[06:14] <C_Smith> the Desktop cube IS usable in Unity, but setting it up is a bit tedious.
[06:14] <p1oooop> tx0105: that already works as long as the non-computer nerd knows how to get help on IRC... XD
[06:14] <RevSpecies116> Ahhhh
[06:15] <tx0105> within 5 minutes of using Kubuntu...i accidently deleted the bottom menu bar...not a big deal...but to the average user...it would freak them out
[06:15] <quick-> RevSpecies116:  in 11.04 it has to be compiz manager as far as i know :)
[06:15] <p1oooop> tx0105: LMAO
[06:15] <p1oooop> tx0105: yeah, I've done that multiple times.
[06:15] <tx0105> i tinker around a lot
[06:15] <p1oooop> I just hate loosing my little gadgets down there though...
[06:15] <tx0105> but i think that's why unity is locked down more
[06:15] <C_Smith> tx0105: roflmao xD
[06:15] <vpark> Using 10.10, Why I'm not connecting to the wired NW (which previously I used to get, but not after fresh installation) which is connecting to other computers?
[06:15] <KM0201> within 5min of using Kubuntu... I decided id' rather use Windows... what an awful interface
[06:15] <p1oooop> tx0105: possibly...
[06:15] <tx0105> if my wife did that...she'd throw the damn computer out of the window
[06:16] <p1oooop> tx0105: LMAO
[06:16] <MonkeyDust> i can no longer decrypt my pgp files, hints& tips pls?
[06:16] <p1oooop> if my sis did that, she would bother me... EVEN IF I'M ASLEEP!
[06:16] <p1oooop> -_-
[06:16] <tx0105> km0201 i actually like KDE 4.6....it's pretty slick....it does have a bit of an amateur look though
[06:16] <p1oooop> !pgp | MonkeyDust
[06:16] <KM0201> yuck
[06:16] <digger_1967> Never been much of a kde fan myself
[06:16] <Pokemon> -_-
[06:16] <p1oooop> lagg?
[06:16] <tx0105> OpenSUSE is the best looking KDE distro in my opinion
[06:16] <C_Smith> me, I don't throw a hundred dollar computer out the window, it's like throwing that much money (and more) out said window.
[06:17] <p1oooop> what happened to ubottu?
[06:17] <digger_1967> Just find Gnome or XFCE a lot easier to use
[06:17] <quick-> hey in 11.04 i deleted the panel which shows all the battery status and all that .
[06:17] <quick-> any tips how to get that applet back in gnome classic environment
[06:17] <digger_1967> Have to agree with you there tx0105
[06:17] <p1oooop> quick-: erm... move all the stuff back?
[06:17] <tx0105> it's too bad OpenSUSE is a pain in the ass
[06:17] <bazhang> !ot > tx0105
[06:17] <RevSpecies116> quick- I believe there is a console command to bring the panel back
[06:17] <p1oooop> quick-: it takes a little while to move all the gadgets around.
[06:17] <digger_1967> Well, I took a look at the latest distro for Opensuse.. was stunned, the VNC server doesn't work
[06:17] <RevSpecies116> But I think it resets customisations back to Out-Of-The-Box experience
[06:17] <quick-> RevSpecies116:  wats the command  ?
[06:17] <MonkeyDust> !gpg > MonkeyDust
[06:18] <RevSpecies116> quick-: Looks for it now
[06:18] <quick-> p1oooop:   i didnt got you .
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> C_Smith, tx0105 RMS tought me a new word today: "defenestrate" which means, either throw Windows out of the computer or throw the computer out of the window)
[06:18] <digger_1967> I mean seriously, how do you have a mature distro like that where one of the most basic features doesn't work out of box and you have to jump through serious hoops to get it up and running?  Lol
[06:18] <p1oooop> ZykoticK9: LMFAO!
[06:18] <C_Smith> hopefully The Sims 3 works on my Hardware, on Wine's AppDB, it's at a Gold status.
[06:18] <quick-> RevSpecies116: u are looking for it now . .
[06:19] <p1oooop> C_Smith: nice.
[06:19] <digger_1967> Unfortunatly for me the one app I have to run needs IE8
[06:19] <vpark> Using 10.10, Why I'm not connecting to the wired NW (which previously I used to get, but not after fresh installation) which is connecting to other computers?:)
[06:19] <p1oooop> now if only sims3 supported linux (as in "W/O emulator")
[06:19] <digger_1967> So I have to keep a windows box up and running for it, just won't run under wine
[06:19] <C_Smith> ZykoticK9: I'd rather throw windows out by default, they only give you support for a year, cheapo company.
[06:19] <tx0105> it took me an hour to get wireless working in openSUSE 11.4...it only worked b/c i found a workaround where you delete the kde networkmanager and replace it with the gnome networkmanager
[06:20] <p1oooop> tx0105: LOL@
[06:20] <p1oooop> *!
[06:20] <digger_1967> Yup.. I had opensuse up and running for a couple of days before I finally just deleted it..
[06:20] <C_Smith> and whose tech problems stop before that year is up?
[06:20] <digger_1967> Just wasn't worth the hassle.  If I wanted to do that much setup I'd run ARch
[06:21] <RevSpecies116> quick-: Yep - I'm looking for it now :)
[06:21] <bazhang> !offtopic | p1oooop digger_1967 C_Smith
[06:21] <quick-> \quit
[06:21] <quick-> \ quit
[06:21] <digger_1967> Apologies ubottu, bazhang - will do
[06:21] <C_Smith> hmmmm, thanks for the reminder,
[06:22] <quick-> \ exit
[06:22] <C_Smith> quick: what are you trying to do there?
[06:22] <p1oooop> ditto
[06:22] <p1oooop> C_Smith: I believe he left...
[06:22] <C_Smith> ah, k
[06:22] <RevSpecies116> People, correct me if I am sending quick- down the wrong path:
[06:22] <RevSpecies116> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel
[06:23] <RevSpecies116> pkill gnome-panel
[06:23] <C_Smith> I'm out
[06:23] <RevSpecies116> Of, quick- left
[06:23] <digger_1967> Sorry, missed it, what is quick- trying to do?
[06:23] <p1oooop> RevSpecies116: yup.
[06:23] <RevSpecies116> Restore his panels
[06:23] <p1oooop> ^^
[06:24] <qin> digger_1967: \ / confusion
[06:29] <tom4ficus> try to install Lubuntu 11.04 . wont let me go forward because < 5.3gb hd. Is there a way around this?
[06:29] <studiomonitor> Hey Bob!
[06:29] <p1oooop> tom4ficus: LIGHT IT ON FIRE AND IGNORE IT!
[06:29] <p1oooop> (LOL)
[06:29] <bob_> hey!
[06:30] <bazhang> p1oooop, stop that
[06:30] <mysteriousdarren> check on the #lubuntu channel
[06:30] <p1oooop> bazhang: sorry, the pyromaniac inside me just decided to troll with irrelevant answers.
[06:30] <bazhang> p1oooop, wrong channel.
[06:30] <tom4ficus> I think it is an Ubuntu issue
[06:31] <p1oooop> tom4ficus: sorta, it thinks that your HDD is too small... (unless it's mistaken)
[06:31] <p1oooop> tom4ficus: is it too small?
[06:31] <tom4ficus> sure but Lubuntu does not need 5gb
[06:32] <tom4ficus> installed LinuxMint and crunch bang OK
[06:32] <MonkeyDust> I have no irssi-config file, how can i create one?
[06:33] <p1oooop> MonkeyDust: erm, doesn't it automatically create one when you use irssi?
[06:33] <digger_1967> tom4ficus, would it be possible to give it a slightly larger partition
[06:33] <mattk> I've been having monitor problems. The bios screen doesn't show up but the live usb ubuntu screen shows up and text. I get the white and black checkerboard pattern. My question is, how hard is it to install ubuntu from the command line?
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> p1oooop: apparently not
[06:33] <digger_1967> and then resize later if you really feel the need?
[06:33] <tom4ficus> I only have 4gb ssd
[06:33] <p1oooop> mattk: it depends what liveCD you're using
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> !irssi > MonkeyDust
[06:33] <p1oooop> MonkeyDust: hm, that's odd.
[06:34] <steviewonder> hi
[06:34] <mattk> p1oooop: I have 11.04 desktop on a usb drive.
[06:34] <studiomonitor> Hello Stevie
[06:34] <steviewonder> :)
[06:34] <p1oooop> mattk: okay, liveUSB
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> mattk, i believe you need the Alternate CD/USB to install cli.  Good luck.
[06:34] <p1oooop> ^^
[06:35] <p1oooop> it isn't very hard, just kind of annoying if you're use to GUI
[06:35] <digger_1967> Do you have another drive you could install too tom4ficus?
[06:35] <digger_1967> At least temporarily?
[06:35] <mattk> ZykoticK9: I thought all versions could work for it
[06:35] <steviewonder> hey ploop
[06:35] <tom4ficus> can try 8gb SD card
[06:35] <mattk> ZykoticK9: I have an internet connection
[06:35] <p1oooop> hey steviewonder :)
[06:36] <steviewonder> yall are uber smart
[06:36] <studiomonitor> Uber
[06:36] <q_a_z_steve> #freenode Can someone help #android deal with an abusive user: chachin
[06:36] <steviewonder> i will!
[06:36] <ZykoticK9> mattk, ? i could certainly be wrong - but AFAIK if you want text based install you can use Alternate or Minimal
[06:37] <steviewonder> dont you guys love ihop?
[06:37] <steviewonder> IHOP RULESSS
[06:37] <mattk> I guess I will go that route
[06:37] <mattk> ZykoticK9: thanks
[06:37] <bazhang> !ot | steviewonder
[06:37] <digger_1967> My thought process here tom4ficus is to install it on another partition, create a backup ISO of it, then restore that to the SSD
[06:38] <p1oooop> digger_1967: not a bad idea, IMHO
[06:38] <Pokemon> oh no! my english is not good...
[06:38] <digger_1967> Only thing I can think of to get past the drive space restriction
[06:38] <p1oooop> Pokemon: apparently, neither is mine
[06:38] <p1oooop> Pokemon: you get used to it after a while.
[06:40] <steviewonder> please dont ban me
[06:40] <MonkeyDust> nope, my .irssi directory is empty, no config file
[06:40] <bazhang> steviewonder, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:40] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file /database/script in an OO.o embedded HSQL databse?
[06:43] <p1oooop> welcome Napalm54
[06:43] <steviewonder> bullgard, #ubuntu-off topic please
[06:43] <Napalm54> Thanks
[06:43] <IdleOne> bullgard4: that is an openoffice support question. please use the appropriate channels for support.
[06:45] <steviewonder> ploooop, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:46] <steviewonder> :P
[06:46] <adilbenseddik> exit
[06:46] <steviewonder> #fml
[06:46] <bazhang> steviewonder, thats enough.
[06:47] <steviewonder> sorry
[06:47] <steviewonder> :(
[06:47] <ntr0py> Does alignment with an SSD based on sandforce controller (claimed to do internal compression) makes any sense?
[06:47] <steviewonder> no
[06:47] <Flannel> steviewonder: please help keep this channel ontopic and helpful, thanks.
[06:48] <steviewonder> omg.... sorry
[06:50] <steviewonder> you shouldn't ban people. not cool
[06:50] <bluefire> ubuntu 10.10 laptop overheating. what to do?
[06:51] <steviewonder> turn off the computer
[06:51] <Syria> Hi, please tell me why usb devices are not detected on the virtual machines? i am using vbox under natty.
[06:51] <digger_1967> Well, your laptop shouldn't be overheating
[06:51] <digger_1967> What model is it?
[06:51] <ntr0py> Can anyone help me with setting up an fs on my ssd properly?
[06:51] <bazhang> Syria, -ose?
[06:51] <Syria> bazhang: I am sorry but what does it mean?
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> Syria, did you install VBox from the Ubuntu repo?
[06:52] <bazhang> Syria, installed from their website or ubuntu repos
[06:52] <bluefire> steviewonder: thanks for your intelligent solution
[06:52] <Syria> bazhang:  I have installed it from ubuntu software center.
[06:52] <digger_1967> Bluefire, what make and model of laptop are we dealing with?
[06:52] <MonkeyDust> Syria: then it is ose, open source edition
[06:52] <bazhang> Syria, that version does not support usb  (ie the -ose)
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> Syria, that means you have the OSE Open Source Edition - it doesn't support USB
[06:53] <bluefire> digger_1967: Lenovo Y560
[06:53] <Syria> ZykoticK9:  What should I do?
[06:53] <digger_1967> Ok.. give me a moment or two to pull up the manuals
[06:53] <MonkeyDust> Syria: if you want usb support, you should download vbox from the sun website
[06:53] <bazhang> Syria, get the version from their homepage
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> Syria, you can install the non-free (as in freedom) version from Oracle (it is free as in beer)
[06:54] <p1oooop> ZykoticK9: XD
[06:54] <fake51> hi, i have a problem with the command 'less' - sometimes it works just fine and it responds directly to key presses ... other times it needs a return before working. Why would it do the latter?
[06:54] <Syria> ZykoticK9 bazhang MonkeyDust Thank you guys,
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> Syria, there is a PPA available, so if you add that, it will give you updates as well
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> Syria, sorry not PPA but repo
[06:54] <digger_1967> Ok, if I remember correctly bluefire on the Lenovo Y series there is an exhaust port on the left side
[06:55] <digger_1967> Does their seem to be a good amount of airflow coming out of that particular vent?
[06:55] <Shirakawasuna> Hi everyone!  I'm trying out ubuntu and am having a couple issues.  Most importantly, I can't find a good way to get a hotkey for moving a window to a certain workspace/desktop, e.g. ctrl+alt+3 = move to desktop 3.  If I set it in the normal hotkeys settings, nothing happens.  If I use ccsm and the 'Put' function, it garbles the top Unity bar.
[06:56] <p1oooop> Shirakawasuna: I don't think Compiz supports unity too well.
[06:56] <p1oooop> it's a little new.
[06:56] <Shirakawasuna> p1oooop: so does that mean there's no way to get a hotkey to do that w/ the default interface?
[06:58] <flave__> This may not be the right channel for this but does ne one know if there is a FreeBSD channel somewhere?
[06:58] <p1oooop> Shirakawasuna: meh, I usually use the ctrl+alt+shit+arrow key anyway...
[06:58] <MonkeyDust> Shirakawasuna: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
[06:58] <bluefire> digger_1967: yes there is an exhaust port on left side
[06:58] <bluefire> yes lot of airflow
[06:58] <bazhang> flave__, try #freebsd  ?
[06:58] <bullgard4> IdleOne: There you are mistaken. My question concerns the DEB program package »openoffice.org-base. Synaptic writes: "Installed Version: 1:3.2.0-7 ubuntu4.2. Canonical provides critical updates for openoffice.org-base until April 2013." Can you read the words "ubuntu" and "Canonical" in there? And you are telling me it is not Ubuntu-related.
[06:59] <digger_1967> Hmm.. ok, interesting.
[06:59] <bazhang> !alis | flave__
[06:59] <digger_1967> Well, two possibilities then, the most likely is a hardware issue, insufficient thermal paste on the processor causing it not to transfer heat properly and making the laptop shut down occasionally
[06:59] <bazhang> bullgard4, #openoffice.org for that
[07:00] <IdleOne> bullgard4: I am telling you that openoffice is better suited channel for your question
[07:00] <digger_1967> Or the CPU itself is getting hammered by some process or program that is running and as such isn't getting enough downtime
[07:00] <bazhang> flave__, the bot seems to be down, try /msg alis list *bsd*
[07:00] <IdleOne> also I don't appreciate your tone...
[07:00] <digger_1967> Is Ubuntu a recent install bluefire or has it been on there for a while?
[07:01] <plouffe> Maybe bullgard4 doesn't understand the channel between updates and support
[07:01] <bazhang> at times, no
[07:01] <bluefire> i installed ubuntu a month back, before that i used windows and had no heating problems
[07:01] <plouffe> understand the difference
[07:01] <mattk> so if I want to install ubuntu server from command line, what distro should I get?
[07:01] <digger_1967> Ok, well it's possible still that it might be a hardware issue, but lets see if we have a software explanation first
[07:02] <bullgard4> IdleOne: I frequent #openoffice.org. I have got the impression that you do not know what is happening in the #openoffice.org chjannel.
[07:02] <bazhang> mattk, ubuntu server
[07:02] <notyourname> what is the best way to scan for pics on ur drive
[07:02] <bazhang> bullgard4, lets move on please
[07:02] <digger_1967> If you open a terminal and type : top
[07:02] <bluefire> anyway to check the cpu temp.?
[07:02] <mattk> bazhang: my GPU is messed up and for some reason I can't see any graphical interfaces
[07:02] <digger_1967> it should show you what the most active processes
[07:03] <Ubuntunz> If you need a copy of ubuntu or any other linux distro for that matter, please email me at samnmatthew@gmail.com with the details of your request.....
[07:03] <bazhang> mattk, what about the alternate installer, then? its ncurses based so text only, not live
[07:03] <digger_1967> Check the CPU percentage of your running processes and see if there is anything that seems to be eating up a ton of processing time
[07:04] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> bluefire, in a terminal try "sensors" (i'm not sure it's installed by default, or what package it's from)
[07:04] <bazhang> !sensors | bluefire
[07:04] <Shirakawasuna> MonkeyDust: thanks!  I'm still trying to find the functionality I want, but it's a cool link.
[07:04] <dooglus> I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 without a problem
[07:04] <p1oooop> mattk: I know this is probably hardware related, but get a new one?
[07:04] <p1oooop> XD
[07:04] <dooglus> but trying to upgrae 10.10 to 11.04 tells me there's a problem with the network
[07:04] <Shirakawasuna> along those same lines, what's the standard way to make an app start on a certain workspace?
[07:04] <Shirakawasuna> (I'm used to xmonad stuff, for reference)
[07:04] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, yep need to install it
[07:04] <dooglus> "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. "
[07:05] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, thanks
[07:05] <mattk> p1oooop: I wish but I can't. I have a good desktop but I don't want to throw this laptop away
[07:05] <mattk> p1oooop: I can use it for something
[07:05] <bazhang> mattk, so try the alternate
[07:05] <mattk> p1oooop: gpu is on the motherboard so it can't be replaced
[07:05] <p1oooop> mattk: we share problems... XD
[07:05] <kiamo> hi, if I enable the opengl plugin for compiz, the panels appear on the wrong monitor and my mouse cannot interact with the desktop.  And clues on how to troubleshoot this further?
[07:05] <mattk> bazhang: alternate or minimal?
[07:06] <bluefire> i have core i5 cpu and ati radeon hd 5730
[07:06] <bazhang> mattk, I'd go with the alternate first
[07:06] <p1oooop> I just smashed it with the force of a meteor colliding against the moon and it worked fine from then on...
[07:06] <JoshDreamland> Does Ubuntu still force annorexic scrollbars?
[07:06] <bluefire> cpu usage shows 4 cpu and percentages r not more than 20% in any of them
[07:06] <p1oooop> except for one thing: directX
[07:06] <dooglus> should I be able to just replace maverick with natty in my sources.list* and dist-upgrade?
[07:07] <plouffe> what's an annorexic toolbar?
[07:07] <bazhang> JoshDreamland, whats that mean
[07:07] <Flannel> dooglus: You could, but the supported method is through update-manager.
[07:07] <p1oooop> plouffe: a toolbar that starves itself and slowly disintegrates into the screen?
[07:07] <dooglus> Flannel: update-manage tells me there's a problem
[07:07] <dooglus> Flannel: I pasted it a little way up here
[07:08] <bazhang> p1oooop, please stop that
[07:08] <digger_1967> Well that's not too abnormal in and of itself bluefire
[07:08] <dooglus> 08:04 < dooglus> "Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem
[07:08] <dooglus>                  with the network or with the server. "
[07:08] <dooglus> Flannel: ^-- that
[07:08] <JoshDreamland> bazhang: I've been trying out other distributions while I wait for Canonical to allow me to have my eight pixel usable scrollbars back instead of the two pixel useless ones.
[07:08] <p1oooop> bazhang: yeah, I should...
[07:08] <Flannel> dooglus: Are you completely up to date on 10.10?
[07:08] <dooglus> Flannel: but dist-upgrade is downloading the packages
[07:08] <digger_1967> If you had a couple of processes hitting the cpu that hard constantly that might cause it to overheat but it would take a while
[07:08] <dooglus> Flannel: I am
[07:08] <dooglus> Flannel: I only just upgraded to it
[07:08] <dooglus> Flannel: I'm wondering if the upgrade process stopped working with apt-cacher for 11.04
[07:08] <bluefire> i typed sensors in terminal and got this : acpitz-virtual-0
[07:08] <bluefire> Adapter: Virtual device
[07:08] <bluefire> temp1:       +55.0°C  (crit = +105.0°C)
[07:09] <dooglus> Flannel: I use apt-cacher so I only have to download each package file once
[07:09] <Flannel> dooglus: I don't think it would.
[07:09] <JoshDreamland> I kind of miss Ubuntu, really, but it's just too big a pain to have all the glitches that showed up from incorrectly-sized scrollbars, along with the lack of features that come with it.
[07:09] <Flannel> dooglus: The mechanism is the same, so I don't see how it'd be substantially different
[07:10] <dooglus> Flannel: it failed almost immediately - trying to authenticate the .gpg file I guess?
[07:10] <dooglus> Flannel: I guess it's plausible the natty.gpg in my apt-cacher cache is corrupted
[07:10] <kiamo> does in order for compiz to work correctly, does the xorg.conf need to have specific settings enabled?
[07:11] <soreau> kiamo: No, you don't even need an xorg.conf in most cases
[07:11] <p1oooop> ^^
[07:11] <dooglus> kiamo: no.  I don't even have an xorg.conf
[07:11] <surprisedcat> ...
[07:11] <kiamo> soreau, dooglus, the only way I could get my dual monitors working is by using xorg.conf
[07:11] <kiamo> but it broke compiz haha
[07:12] <soreau> kiamo: If you're using a proprietary driver, you have to use xorg.conf
[07:12] <Inzuit> Is there an IRC channel for Virtual OS Support, also is there  a HOWTO regarding how to create the ISOs to boot to?
[07:13] <bazhang> Inzuit, #vbox
[07:13] <ntiy> anybody knows the answer to the following question: I bought a laptop. Installed linux on it. I want to return to seller (bestbuy in my case). On the original receipt it is said that I can return item within 14 days since purchase. So, will the fact that I have linux installed on the machine create any problems for me?
[07:13] <Inzuit> Thank You
[07:13] <soreau> ntiy: What does that have to do with ubuntu?
[07:13] <bluefire> should i be worried with that cpu temp?
[07:13] <bluefire> or is it normal
[07:13] <ntiy> I installed ubuntu
[07:13] <bluefire> the exhaust side of laptop feels quite hot
[07:14] <eyespy> Inzuit: if=file.extension of=file.iso
[07:14] <soreau> ntiy: I don't think we can help you with that. You have to ask the people you'll be returning it to
[07:14] <Inzuit> eyespy - never done this before and had some serious concerns regarding the swap file - I want the Virtual OS to be Weinerblows Not debian
[07:15] <Inzuit> eyespy - thank you
[07:15] <digger_1967> bluefire, in most laptops the processor's heat sink is actually right next to the exhaust port, and the fan blows through it
[07:15] <kiamo_> did I miss anything?  got disconnected lol
[07:15] <soreau> kiamo: Which driver is it?
[07:15] <ntiy> soreau: thnks
[07:15] <eyespy> Inzuit: /j #virtualbox
[07:15] <digger_1967> A lot of times that port gets clogged with dust and can cause the laptop to overheat
[07:16] <digger_1967> The dust collects in the fins of the heat sink, reduces the overall airflow and then the laptop starts overheating
[07:16] <kiamo> soreau, latest Nvidia drivers 185 I think
[07:16] <kiamo> 173 did not work
[07:16] <Inzuit> eyespy - although I appreciate the sugguestion - that does appear to be a private party for which I have no invitation
[07:16] <bluefire> i can hear the laptop fan run all the time. that is my issue of concerin
[07:17] <eyespy> you may have to register your nick Inzuit with Nickserv
[07:17] <eyespy> type /NickServ register
[07:17] <digger_1967> Well normally when I clean a laptop I take it apart and clean out the heatsink with a can of compressed air
[07:17] <digger_1967> That usually solves the problem
[07:17] <Inzuit> eyespy - I have registered my nick, it said that it took, but it may not have made it accross the network yet?
[07:19] <soreau> kiamo: You have to use twinview with the nvidia driver as xinerama effectively disables compositing
[07:19] <fr4s> oh hi
[07:19] <Inzuit> eyespy - it may be because I do not appear to be running an IDENT server - hmm are they still doing that?
[07:20] <Inzuit> I appear to have the little ~ < thingy in front of my login nick
[07:20] <kiamo> soreau, oh...  hmm ok
[07:20] <kiamo> I will have a fiddle
[07:20] <fr4s> I'm looking for charity  work, does anybody happen to need music or sounds for anything?
[07:20] <kiamo> thanks soreau  :)
[07:20] <eyespy> yes Inzuit
[07:20] <soreau> kiamo: I believe you can setup dual head with nvidia-settings
[07:20] <Inzuit> eyespy - ok so that may be the problem - thanks
[07:21] <kiamo> yea I am changing it now
[07:24] <j__> jnake
[07:39] <Surlent777> hey, I'm in the middle of a much-needed reinstall and noticed that shiny option to encrypt the home directory. Is there any particular reason not to? I heard ssh might not work as expected, and that it might affect hibernation. Can anyone confirm one way or another?
[07:42] <DIFTOW> Is Unity gone?
[07:43] <DIFTOW> Because everytime I log into the supposed 'regular' Ubuntu session, its Ubuntu classic.
[07:43] <coconutz> guys what is the most reliable way to backup the system only in case of system fault in ubuntu?
[07:43] <coconutz> i did tar before but its never got to work
[07:43] <coconutz> after crash
[07:43] <tx0105> DIFTOW regular Ubuntu should be Unity
[07:44] <DIFTOW> well its not
[07:44] <kandinski> how can I find which package provides a certain command?
[07:44] <tx0105> DIFTOW did you try to install Gnome 3/Gnome shell?
[07:44] <DIFTOW> I did an update, logged out of the session, and now Unity is missing.
[07:44] <kandinski> I have hosed nvidia-xconfig out of my laptop, and I don't know which package provides it
[07:44] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: you have the right drivers going for your brand of graphics card?
[07:44] <DIFTOW> no, i didnt try to install anything
[07:44] <DIFTOW> nothing is different
[07:44] <DIFTOW> I didn't install anything
[07:44] <DIFTOW> I ran Ubuntu updates.
[07:45] <tx0105> maybe try to select Unity 2D and see if that works
[07:45] <DIFTOW> I logged out, and logged into Ubuntu classic.. to see if a Source engine mod would run smoother in Ubuntu classic..
[07:45] <tx0105> i couldn't boot into regular Unity for a while...graphics issues
[07:45] <tx0105> but Unity 2D worked fine
[07:45] <DIFTOW> When the game didnt even load in ubuntu classic, i tried to log back into unity.
[07:45] <DIFTOW> v_v
[07:45] <DIFTOW> I've been using Unity for idk.. over a month now?
[07:45] <DIFTOW> its not graphical issues
[07:46] <DIFTOW> I have a GTX 580, hardly old hardware
[07:46] <DIFTOW> had no issues running it for 6 weeks
[07:46] <tx0105> did you do a full reboot?
[07:46] <DIFTOW> yes
[07:46] <DIFTOW> unity just vanished.
[07:46] <DIFTOW> For no good reason
[07:46] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: check to see if package unity is indeed installed; try reinstalling it
[07:46] <DIFTOW> cause thats how stable this distro is being lately
[07:47] <DIFTOW> unity shows up in the package manager
[07:48] <DIFTOW> and it says its installed
[07:48] <DIFTOW> ill try the reinstall
[07:48] <DIFTOW> but im curious to know why Half Life 2 wont even boot now in Wine, since being in "ubuntu classic"
[07:49] <DIFTOW> bit odd.
[07:49] <DIFTOW> Worked in Unity
[07:49] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, debian actually has an nvidia-xconfig package, on Ubuntu i believe it's part of the driver package (or is there an nvidia-settings package?).  Good luck.  FYI apt-file can tell you what package a particular file belongs (but i think you need the file).
[07:49] <Guest23409> hello
[07:49] <Guest23409> does xchat work like a chat room?
[07:49] <Surlent777> dave why did you undo your name
[07:50] <Guest23409> i didn't...
[07:50] <Guest23409> i dont know what i did
[07:50] <Surlent777> did you register it with nickserv?
[07:50] <Surlent777> I see
[07:50] <Guest23409> i am new to xchat
[07:50] <Surlent777> okay, xchat is just a program. It is just a shiny happy shell around IRC itself. IRC is a series of networks with chat rooms in them
[07:50] <Surlent777> first step is to register your name
[07:50] <Surlent777> type /msg nickserv register <email> <password>
[07:51] <Surlent777> and then next you log in type /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:51] <Surlent777> word of advice though, you may want to choose a more unique nick
[07:51] <Guest23409> i c,,,thanks Sur
[07:51] <Surlent777> nicks can be changed with /nick
[07:51] <DIFTOW> nope
[07:51] <DIFTOW> Reinstalled
[07:51] <DIFTOW> No Unity
[07:51] <ejv> ahem... this isn't the channel to be doing this, take it to #xchat or #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:52] <Surlent777> Guest23409: make sure you /nick to your desired nick BEFORE registering
[07:52] <Guest23409> so people here talk only about unix-related topic?
[07:52] <Surlent777> ejv: fair enough, sorry
[07:52] <DIFTOW> Anyone here use Debian?
[07:52] <DIFTOW> I've had it with Ubuntu's crap
[07:52] <ejv> Guest23409: yes, this is the ubuntu support channel, try to remain focused when you're here, unfocused chatter can be found in the offtopic channel
[07:53] <ZykoticK9> DIFTOW, yes.  But that's OT for this channel use #debian.
[07:53] <MonkeyDust> DIFTOW: this chat runs remotely on Debian, yes
[07:53] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: If you think Ubuntu is hard, Debian is going to be a nightmare. Fair warning.
[07:53] <DIFTOW> No one ever can solve any of the issues i have
[07:53] <mage7> hello...Disk Usage Analyzer says that /var/cache/ takes 1.5GB of which /var/cache/apt takes 1.4GB... what is this space used for and can i free it (because my root filesystem is getting tight (300mb)
[07:53] <DIFTOW> Ubuntu is unstable
[07:53] <ubuntu_> how to join to C++ programing channel?
[07:53] <DIFTOW> and everytime i have to fix ubuntu, its a complete reinstall, cause not one of you here or on forums knows why
[07:53] <ejv> you can wipe out /var/cache/apt if you like, it won't hurt you
[07:54] <MonkeyDust> ok DIFTOW we get the message
[07:54] <DIFTOW> How does an entire desktop environment.. just vanish from logging out of it.. when nothing changed?!
[07:54] <jasman> om
[07:54] <DIFTOW> thats F***d up
[07:54] <DIFTOW> Now I have to what.. reinstall Ubuntu 100%?
[07:54] <Surlent777> mage7: /var/cache/apt should be, if I'm not mistaken, things downloaded by apt-get or Synaptic, cached for your convenience. It is safe to delete
[07:54] <pix_> Is there anybody experiencing glitchs with Unity and RXvt(unicode)* ?
[07:54] <DIFTOW> Just because Unity vanished for no reason
[07:54] <MonkeyDust> DIFTOW: no one forces you to use Ubuntu
[07:54] <ejv> mage7: a better way to sanitize your system is use `sudo apt-get clean`
[07:55] <DIFTOW> And don't expect people to continue using it with help like this
[07:55] <mage7> ejw, Surlent: thanks for reply..what is this /var/cache/apt used for...what convinience does it provide
[07:55] <Shirakawasuna> you troubleshoot as you would in debian, DIFTOW... e.g. change to VT1 and try DISPLAY=:0 unity &
[07:55] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: None of us have heard of that error. We can only fix what we know, right? We're not psychic and we're not devs. We can try to help, but nothing is promised. We're just users like you
[07:55] <mage7>  sudo apt-get clean will free up un-needed files?
[07:55] <ejv> mage7: exactly what it sounds like, it's a local "cache" for recently downloaded pre-compiled system binaries
[07:55] <ubuntu_> Please help me..
[07:55] <sysdoc> ! X11-xcb
[07:55] <MonkeyDust> DIFTOW: try #ubuntu-devel
[07:55] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: one can also only provide so much help if you can't generate specific troubleshooting info, like errors
[07:55] <ubuntu_> please help me
[07:55] <ubuntu_> please help me
[07:55] <ubuntu_> please help me
[07:56] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <ejv> !patience | ubuntu_
[07:56] <Surlent777> mage7: /var/chahe/apt is used to store things apt-get/Synaptic has downloaded, so that if you reinstall them you don't need to re-download
[07:56] <MonkeyDust> !ask| ubuntu_
[07:56] <Shirakawasuna> if you can't generate an error with one step, try the next one back
[07:56] <DIFTOW> There is no error message. Unity doesn't load anymore for no reason. And Windows games under Wine, won't work in Ubuntu Classic.
[07:56] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: so you switched to VT1 and logged in?
[07:56] <DIFTOW> So I can't game in wine under classic, and can't boot unity to do so.
[07:56] <ejv> ubuntu_: pleading for help is offensive to everyone here, ask your question, as detailed as possible, THEN patiently wait for a response.
[07:57] <ubuntu_> how to join to C++ programing channel ?
[07:57] <Surlent777> ubuntu_: to join a C++ channel, first find one. Google is your friend. Then, connect your client to the server and channel you found via google
[07:57] <DIFTOW> VT1?
[07:57] <pix_> ubuntu_: /j #c++
[07:57] <ejv> ubuntu_: /join #c++
[07:57] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: yes, VT1.  The thing I recommended.
[07:57] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: VT1 == Virtual Terminal 1, Ctrl+Alt+F1. Ctrl+Alt+F7 or 8 is usually X Windows
[07:57] <MonkeyDust> DIFTOW: i think ubuntu is not the distro you want, maybe try another distro
[07:58] <DIFTOW> And what am I doing in Terminal 1?
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[07:58] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: If you want issues to be solved quickly, I'm going to second MonkeyDust's recommendation.  I recommend gentoo or archlinux so that you know how to generate useful low-level information for troubleshooting.
[07:58] <ubuntu_> i can't send message.
[07:58] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: I already said exactly what to try :/
[07:58] <zykes-> if i have 10*2 tb disks for storage, is it a bad idea to place them in a raid ?
[07:59] <ubuntu_> i dont know what to do?
[07:59] <ejv> i know this is probably unhelpful, but expecting everything to 'just work' in the lastest, non-LTS version is kind of silly.
[07:59] <pix_> ubuntu_: Just wait a little.
[07:59] <ubuntu_> ok;)
[07:59] <DIFTOW> Look, if you're gonna recommend a distro, its not based on it being easy, its stability I care about.
[07:59] <blargg> Where can I find a 10.04 livecd in CD-ROM format, not DVD?
[07:59] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: if it's stability you crave, stay with the LTS releases
[07:59] <DIFTOW> Sorry but, ever since 11.04.. stability went right out the window.
[08:00] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: most recent is 10.04, Lucid Lynx
[08:00] <ejv> DIFTOW: i suggest the ubuntu LTS, debian, or if you REAAALLY want stability, slackware.
[08:00] <tx0105> DIFTOW you aren't going to get anywhere being a jerk to everyone....just saying
[08:00] <DIFTOW> how do I revert to 10.04?
[08:00] <DIFTOW> I want 11.04 gone
[08:00] <pix_> ubuntu_: Maybe your nick isn't registered, I don't knwo if you need to have a registered nick to talk in ##c++
[08:00] <DIFTOW> 10.10*
[08:00] <DIFTOW> yw/e
[08:00] <Surlent777> DIFTOW: that will require a reinstall, sadly
[08:00] <Shirakawasuna> DIFTOW: you download the 10.04 disc
[08:00] <Shirakawasuna> then reinstall
[08:00] <ejv> zykes-: that's an odd question, what exactly do you want?
[08:00] <c_nick> I have installed WinXP on virtual Box.. i am able to access my windows server from linux but when i do the same from windows get an error how can i fix that
[08:01] <blargg> I've got a 10.04 CD-ROM that someone burned for me, but it's got read problems. I checked Ubuntu's cd releases directory, but they all link to a DVD image for the 10.04.
[08:01] <ubuntu_> how can i register it?
[08:01] <ubuntu_> hoe can i register in?
[08:01] <ejv> ubuntu_: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[08:01] <mage7> blargg: 10.04 is available as 700mb iso which can be burnt to cd
[08:02] <pix_> ubuntu_: /msg ChanServ help
[08:02] <kelvinella> hi, how to set the middle click to paste in ff instead of ff's default, which is the autoscrow?
[08:02] <kelvinella> auto scroll
[08:02] <Shirakawasuna> blargg: you can use that disc image to load a installation usb key
[08:03] <ejv> kelvinella: no idea, did google or ubuntuforums reveal anything concerning that issue?
[08:03] <blargg> Ultimately, I need a CD to boot from, so that I can make an exact image of my HD to another.
[08:04] <blargg> I'm looking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/ but all the isos are 4GB+
[08:04] <kelvinella> ejv, no idea
[08:04] <kelvinella> any ff expert here?
[08:04] <ejv> kelvinella: type "about:config" in the firefox address bar, and locate "middlemouse.paste" and tell me what the boolean value is.
[08:05] <Shirakawasuna> blargg: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[08:05] <Shirakawasuna> I recommend using a torrent, BlakHawk
[08:05] <Shirakawasuna> *blargg
[08:06] <azadin> Has anyone gotten usb autmounting to work in natty (11.04) from the commandline? I get a "Mount failed: Not Authorized" when I manually do a 'udisks --mount /dev/sdb1'
[08:06] <azadin> I'm trying to figure out if its a polkit error, dbus error, or udisks error...
[08:06] <kelvinella> ejv, middlemouse.paste;true
[08:06] <ejv> first logical question, are you a sudoer azadin?
[08:07] <ejv> kelvinella: hmm strange, was it working at any point?
[08:07] <blargg> Shirakawasuna, from the description it sounds like the CD-ROM version isn't a LiveCD.
[08:07] <kdbwnf> Hi. How can I enable "edge scrolling"?
[08:07] <kelvinella> ejv, it works in textbox, but sometimes in some forum it wont
[08:08] <ejv> kelvinella: this is prolly a question for the firefox devs
[08:08] <mage7> blargg: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ ... is  http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso is what you looking for?
[08:08] <blargg> Shirakawasuna, anyway, thanks for the link, and I see CD images in case I need them.
[08:08] <azadin> ejv: yes. i can sudo and udisks properly mounts as root.
[08:08] <ejv> did you try #firefox kelvinella ?
[08:08] <tx0105> just out of curiosity...if you upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 with a fresh install, but only reformat the / partition (leaving /home alone)...does that work?
[08:08] <kelvinella> ejv, let me find the site first
[08:09] <tx0105> i'm trying to find a safe way to upgrade without having to delete everything
[08:09] <kdbwnf> Hi. How can I enable "edge scrolling"?
[08:09] <azadin> ejv: but i'd like to be able to bypass sudo by using udisks in combination with an open polkit policy
[08:09] <ejv> tx0105: if / and /home were on different physical partitions, yes :)
[08:09] <ZykoticK9> tx0105, do you currently have /home on a different partiton?  By default it is "attached" to /.
[08:09] <JamezQ1> Hey guys, what do I need to install to get a usb external terabyte drive to work in ubuntu server
[08:10] <ejv> JamezQ1: nothing, all the tools you need are available by default, with the exception of like... xfsprogs for xfs afficanados
[08:10] <tx0105> i set up all my installs with a / partion...a seperate /home partition and a swap
[08:10] <ejv> s/afficanados/afficianados/g
[08:10] <blargg> mage7, thanks, that's indeed what I was looking for. Not sure why I didn't see links to it before.
[08:10] <tx0105> would that set up mean that /home is not attached?
[08:11] <JamezQ1> ejv: Well, it does not connect.
[08:11] <ejv> or perhaps 'aficionados' :D
[08:11] <JamezQ1> ejv: It does not show in fdisk -l
[08:11] <ejv> JamezQ1: what does the kernel buffer say when you attach the device?
[08:12] <JamezQ1> ejv: Eh, how do I check that
[08:12] <kdbwnf> How can I enable "edge scrolling" for my laptop's touchpad?
[08:12] <azadin> ejv: any ideas?
[08:12] <ejv> azadin: one moment, supporting too many hehe
[08:12] <cafejunkie> Hello Everyone.
[08:12] <JamezQ1> your awesome man
[08:12] <cafejunkie> Is anyone running intel's pineview chipset (specifically intel GMA 3150)?
[08:13] <ejv> JamezQ1: `sudo apt-get install pastebinit' in your terminal then 'dmesg | pastebinit'
[08:13] <azadin> ejv: i can see that ;)
[08:13] <ejv> azadin: can you not grant your user or group privelege to execute the udisk binary?
[08:14] <azadin> ejv: oh i can execute the binary just fine. theres something else going on with the policy not allowing me to mount drives
[08:14] <ejv> hmm
[08:14] <JamezQ1> http://pastebin.com/kM6nHmRW
[08:14] <JamezQ1> thanks ejv
[08:15] <azadin> ejv: I'm not familiar with dbus or polkit enough to understand why udisks is giving me a not authorized error
[08:16] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: thanks
[08:16] <ejv> can't say i've ever used udisks myself ;)
[08:17] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: someone just told me about rapt-file, which doesn't even require you to have the file installed apparently
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, so where is nvidia-xconfig in ubuntu?
[08:17] <philipballew> how can i get grub2 too know what os to automaticly boot and therefor hide the boot menu?
[08:17] <jnlsnl_> Open Office: Anyone know how can I make TOC not include the frontpage?
[08:17] <ejv> JamezQ1: have you been plugging and unplugging the device several times?
[08:17] <azadin> anyone else in here familiar with udisks or automounting, or dbus/polkit?
[08:17] <JamezQ1> ejv: only once
[08:17] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: part of the driver package
[08:18] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, ya, thought so.  glad you got it.
[08:18] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: in my case, it was part of nvidia-current
[08:18] <JamezQ1> ejv, A person in ubuntu-server says to install ubuntu-standard
[08:18] <kandinski> yeah, but not in my path, strange
[08:18] <cafejunkie> Is anyone running intel's pineview chipset (specifically intel GMA 3150)?
[08:19] <ejv> i wonder if you're not on an active session on the local console azadin
[08:19] <ejv> i know policykit relies heavily on a functioning consolekit, what's ck-list-sessions output?
[08:19] <tx0105> wierd...does anyone use Evolution?
[08:19] <JamezQ1> eh, it's already installed
[08:20] <DND> guys i wanted a ldap client for ubuntu. that is capable of exporting users via csv file?
[08:20] <azadin> ejv: i thought about that. i tried running a ck-launch-session /bin/bash and running the command again with the same result
[08:20] <azadin> ejv: i'll send you a pm with the output
[08:20] <DND> im trying luma ldap manager but there's no export option
[08:20] <sysdoc> configure: error: Cannot find x11-xcb>> Anyone know the package name for this dependency?
[08:20] <kandinski> if anyone thinks they can help, I can only run X with failsafe mode, here-s my xorg.conf and Xorg.log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/398113/
[08:21] <tx0105> I just came across a wierd issue...when I click on the messages in my inbox...rather than highlighting the message I'm clicking on..it selects the message about 2-3 below it...it's as if the mouse pointer isn't configured right...but it works everywhere else on my computer
[08:21] <azadin> ejv: pastebin.com/57kTUWd6
[08:21] <azadin> it is an xbmc box, hence the usernames
[08:22] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, that EE module doesn't exist - seems the nvidia driver isn't installed???
[08:23] <kandinski> I installed it with aptitude install nvidia-current
[08:23] <ejv> hehe shouldn't matter
[08:24] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, why not use Additional Drivers?
[08:24] <mithran> i have a pretty simple question, how do i check if i have the fusion repos installed, if now how can i get the.
[08:24] <mithran> *m?
[08:24] <ejv> kinda strange that session one is missing a session id, but nothing to make me worried
[08:25] <Surlent777> mithran: fusion repo would be listed in Synaptic under Sources
[08:25] <ejv> JamezQ1: figure it out or need more help? :P
[08:25] <Jordan_U> mithran: Fusion?
[08:25] <Surlent777> Jordan_U: Compiz Fusion, the engine behind Unity and the desktop prettiness
[08:25] <jobijo> dudr' I want use Gnome2 but at session menu i dont have ubuntu classic
[08:25] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: Additional Drivers didn't work
[08:25] <ubuntu_> how can i register in C++ programing channel?
[08:25] <ubuntu_> how can i register in C++ programing channel?
[08:25] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: that's why I broke out the command line
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Surlent777: It's now just compiz.
[08:26] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, sorry - that's beyond me then.  Good luck.
[08:26] <Surlent777> Jordan_U: old habits die hard
[08:26] <jobijo> I want use Gnome2 at ubuntu 11.04 but at session menu i dont have ubuntu classic
[08:26] <kandinski> the glx is not getting installed
[08:26] <kandinski> nvidia-glx
[08:26] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: thanks a lot
[08:27] <Jordan_U> !register | ubuntu_
[08:27] <mithran> Jordan_U: sorry wrong place
[08:27] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, I moved my /home partition to an external drive, and freed up the space it used to take up on my internal drive. Can someone suggest what else I may want to have its own partition? currently / is the only other mount point
[08:27] <cafejunkie> Does anyone have thermal issues with intel graphics? I noticed my netbook runs really hot despite cpu frequency scaling working and the fans functional. The vga port is hot enough to burn one's finger. If anyone has had this issue and fixed it I need some advice/info on the problem.
[08:28] <Jordan_U> mithran: I already expected you meant that for #fedora :)
[08:28] <Cr4z33> HI everybody
[08:28] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: traditionally /var and /tmp have often had their own partitions, if I'm not mistaken. You might want to ask google on that one, as installer documentation often mentions the topic
[08:28] <mithran> Jordan_U: :)
[08:28] <cafejunkie> Surlent777: /etc, /usr and /var :)
[08:28] <Surlent777> cafejunkie: ah, knew I was missing one. Thanks.
[08:29] <kandinski> oh, closer!
[08:29] <kandinski> javier@girasol:~$ sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[08:29] <kandinski> No candidate version found for nvidia-glx
[08:29] <kandinski> no nvidia-glx for me
[08:29] <Cr4z33> Is there a way to upgrade Ubuntu v9.04 to v10.04? I need that version only and I don't want v11.x
[08:29] <ejv> i wouldn't put /etc on another partition, too small
[08:29] <Flannel> Cr4z33: You have to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10, and then you can upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, that's part of the driver as well (i believe)
[08:29] <Morten_> Hi, at some point I had a little CLI program, that showed the installed hardware on my machine, but now I can't remember the name, and it is quite anoying :) -- Can any one perhaps help me out?
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> kandinski, driver = driver package
[08:29] <kandinski> ZykoticK9: hmm
[08:29] <Cr4z33> Flannel So just sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:30] <DJones> Morten_: Are you thinking of lspci?
[08:30] <cafejunkie> Morten_: lspci
[08:30] <ejv> Morten_: lshw or lscpi
[08:30] <zykes-> ejv: just wondering really
[08:30] <Flannel> Cr4z33: No, that just moves you from 9.04 to 9.04.  Information on both upgrades (9.04 to 9.10, and 9.10 to 10.04) can be found on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:30] <zykes-> if it's bad practive
[08:30] <zykes-> practive
[08:30] <zykes-> ehm, s/v/c
[08:30] <Morten_> DJones, cafejunkie, ejv: Not those, it printed in colors and showed in the information very neatly.
[08:31] <Cr4z33> Flannel: Perfect, thanks :)
[08:31] <drMike> hello
[08:31] <ejv> zykes-: it depends on what kind of performance and redundancy (if any) that you want
[08:31] <drMike> I'm getting 'Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 0' when connecting to 10.04.2 with Sequel Pro...any ideas?
[08:32] <drMike> I checked and there is no place in my.cnf to remove skip-networking - it's already been removed in favour of bind to 127.0.0.1
[08:32] <mattk> So is there anyway to do a command line install from the liveusb? I've tried minimal and alternative and the only the way I can see anything on my monitor is by using the live usb and ctrl+alt +F2
[08:32] <ejv> zykes-: my next question would be, how important is the data, how do you intend on managing an array? hardware dedicated controller? linux software raid? etc.
[08:32] <DJones> Morten_: Possibly hwinfo (Mine doesn't print in colour but could just be the way its set up)
[08:32] <drMike> anyone?
[08:32] <ejv> zykes-: then there's the drives themselves, are they appropriate drives to be used in an array (google Wester Digital TLER to get an idea of why im bringing this up) :)
[08:33] <Surlent777> drMike: Kind of a specialized topic, I'm afraid =/
[08:33] <Morten_> DJones, not quite that program either :/
[08:33] <drMike> Surlent777: indeed.
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> mattk: if you want to install something from the command line, use sudo apt-get instal blah
[08:33] <drMike> the strange thing is I have no problems connecting to my older 10.04 boxes
[08:33] <drMike> it's just this 10.04.2 VPS
[08:33] <JamezQ1> ejv, it works now, thanks
[08:33] <Surlent777> MonkeyDust: I doubt that will help him install the entire OS, and that would only install to RAM in his case
[08:33] <ejv> Morten_: you're not going to find better quality data than what lspci and lshw can give you
[08:33] <mattk> MonkeyDust: I need to install ubuntu on my computer
[08:33] <ejv> JamezQ1: what was the issue? :)
[08:34] <drMike> I can easily ssh in and connect to the server
[08:34] <drMike> even tried restarting th mysql service no problems
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> mattk: what holds you?
[08:34] <mattk> MonkeyDust: the gpu is messed up, the screen is usually black but for some reason I can see a terminal from the liveusb
[08:34] <JamezQ1> ejv, Eh, I guess the port went bad, it worked last time, but I switched it to another one and it worked
[08:35] <ejv> JamezQ1: yup that would explain your kernel buffer, congrats ;)
[08:35] <ejv> JamezQ1: you have to rule stuff like that out for us, in the future :P
[08:35] <JamezQ1> ejv, hmm?
[08:35] <JamezQ1> ejv, Oh, yea, sorry :(
[08:36] <ejv> JamezQ1: :) no worries
[08:36] <Surlent777> oh, before I forget, anyone know about hibernation/ssh on an encrypted home directory, or any reason not to use an encrypted home?
[08:36] <ejv> ou may forget the password and lock yourself out? :)
[08:36] <ejv> s/ou/you/
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> mattk: try Lubi http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lubi.html
[08:37] <Surlent777> ejv: unlikely, though that had crossed my mind
[08:37] <DJones> Morten_: This is the only other one I've come across http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/discover.1.html
[08:37] <Jordan_U> mattk: Have you tried the alternate install CD?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> mattk: NVM, I see you have. You can install ssh and use ssh -X to run ubiquity using another machine's X server.
[08:38] <KatronixSerf> perhaps a different way, currently the drive with my / on it, is on a 1 TB drive assigned to 379.9 GB, Is it possible using something like GParted, to move it so it uses the full 1 TB?
[08:39] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: yes. Just slightly risky. Make sure you have backups ready, just in case
[08:39] <KatronixSerf> Surlent777, How would I do it? GParted offers no way to "grow" the / partition
[08:40] <Jordan_U> KatronixSerf: Boot a liveCD.
[08:40] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: refresh me. Does this contain just / and no other file system/mount point?
[08:40] <KatronixSerf> Surlent777, the / contains everything but home
[08:40] <KatronixSerf> home has been moved to an external drive
[08:41] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: okay, so it's just /? Then you should be able to boot a livecd, run gparted, and manipulate it from there.
[08:41] <blargg> I want to reorder partitions, as currently swap is at beginning of disk, / at end, thus extra thrashing. Currently: swap, home, free, /. Desired: swap, /, home, free. http://i52.tinypic.com/ka3401.jpg illustrates. My current plan is to mirror to another drive, then copy partitions back in desired order, and somehow update parition table in the process. Thoughts?
[08:41] <KatronixSerf> ok, I assume fstab would need to be edited?
[08:41] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: if you're just resizing one partition, I don't think so
[08:42] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: I didn't need to do that when I cloned my 300GB to a TB disk and streched it, anyway
[08:42] <Jordan_U> KatronixSerf: No, resizing a partition/filesystem doesn't change its UUID.
[08:42] <KatronixSerf> OK so it would still be /dev/sda5 even if it takes up the full drive?
[08:42] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: sda5? So you DO have other partitions
[08:42] <Surlent777> ?
[08:43] <zeekill> So my friend told me about this sysrq, what is ti?
[08:43] <zeekill> it*
[08:43] <Morten_> ejv,DJones, found it :) -- It was inxi I was looking for. Thanks for helping out!
[08:43] <KatronixSerf> Surlent777, I did, when my desktop multi-booted
[08:43] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | zeekill
[08:44] <zeekill> Can I fix my memory with this?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> zeekill: No.
[08:44] <zeekill> what can I do?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> zeekill: What problem are you having exactly?
[08:44] <zeekill> My friend told me that its very powerful and can fix many stuf
[08:45] <Surlent777> KatronixSerf: well, either way, when you stretch it, so long as no other partitions are affected, /etc/fstab should be fine. If anything changes, make note of it and adjust accordingly, I guess
[08:45] <KatronixSerf> Surlent777, ok... now to just burn a new disk
[08:45] <zeekill> can I overclock with it?
[08:46] <ikonia> zeekill: no
[08:46] <ikonia> zeekill: it is not a tool
[08:46] <zeekill> What is it?
[08:46] <mattk> Is there anyway to install ubuntu from the terminal?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> zeekill: No. Sysrq magic is for getting out of situations where other forms of input are broken, nothing else.
[08:46] <ikonia> it is an emergency key sequence to get info from the kernel, when the kernel is hung
[08:46] <blargg> zeekill, Wikipedia has useful information about it
[08:47] <zeekill> I am banned from wikipedia :(
[08:47] <ikonia> zeekill: the website ?
[08:47] <Jordan_U> mattk: You can install ssh and use ssh -X to run ubiquity using another machine's X server.
[08:47] <blargg> zeekill, google cache then
[08:47] <zeekill> ikonia: yes
[08:47] <KatronixSerf> Is there a DVD version of 11.04 yet?
[08:47] <mattk> Jordan_U: I know what ssh is but I'm not sure what you mean
[08:47] <diskun> hi
[08:48] <MonkeyDust> mattk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206893
[08:48] <KatronixSerf> DVD ISO I mean
[08:48] <zeekill> google gives me this picture and I have to type letters when I search :(
[08:48] <zeekill> It says something like that my searchs look strange and I have virus
[08:48] <ikonia> zeekill: we can't really help you with that, talk to your network admin to resolve your network access
[08:48] <diskun> How i can update ONLY a package with APT?
[08:48] <blargg> sounds like you have bigger problems :)
[08:48] <llutz_> trolly tuesday today?
[08:48] <user> why superos iso is only 1.1gb? and why not full 4.4gb, with addition packajes as debian ?
[08:49] <zeekill> ikonia: I try calling him
[08:49] <ikonia> user: superos is nothing to do with ubuntu/this channel
[08:49] <KatronixSerf> nm, I found it :-)
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> user: this channel has no answer to the question 'why', only to the question 'how'
[08:50] <gabriel_> Hello. configured nis client on 11.04 ypcat works, login with local user from remote works. login to server with nis account does not... any idea?
[08:50] <Jordan_U> mattk: You can run graphical applications remotely using ssh, it's called X forwarding.
[08:50] <mattk> MonkeyDust: I've looked at that already. The only thing that works is ctrl + alt + F2 with the liveusb
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> mattk: do you have more than one pc in the same network?
[08:51] <mattk> MonkeyDust: yeah. I could ssh into the liveusb but I don't know where to go from there
[08:51] <Mjuksel> hi guys :)
[08:51] <diskun> Anyone can help me?
[08:52] <Surlent777> diskun: just ask, don't ask to ask
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> mattk: use ssh -Y user@ip "metacity& gnome-panel&"
[08:52] <diskun> oks
[08:52] <diskun> I need update only a package
[08:52] <diskun> bind9
[08:52] <diskun> but
[08:52] <Mjuksel> i got 2 questions, 1: have a pc with ubuntu running now, but its very slow.. specs: intel dual core 2.0, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd.. how can that be slow?
[08:53] <diskun> i don't now how to use spt for update ONLY a package
[08:53] <diskun> i don't know how to use spt for update ONLY a package
[08:53] <mattk> MonkeyDust: is that going to bring up a gui to do the installation?
[08:53] <diskun> i don't know how to use apt for update ONLY a package
[08:53] <MonkeyDust> mattk: yes
[08:53] <diskun> with apt-get upgrade , tool updates many packages
[08:53] <mattk> MonkeyDust: that's probably the answer I need then, thanks.
[08:53] <diskun> and I need update only one
[08:53] <blargg> diskun, those may be dependencies
[08:54] <Jordan_U> diskun: sudo apt-get install packagename
[08:54] <diskun> blargg: many packages doesn't have dependencies with bind9
[08:54] <diskun> Jordan_U: with install, it is possible destroy config files¿?
[08:55] <blargg> disk, sorry, upgrade updates all packages (as described in the man apt-get page)
[08:55] <diskun> blargg: no problem :)
[08:55] <Jordan_U> diskun: No. It does a normal upgrade (if the package is already installed and a newer version is available).
[08:55] <Mjuksel> i have a pc with ubuntu running now, but its very slow.. specs: intel dual core 2.0, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd.. how can that be slow
[08:55] <Mjuksel> why can that run so slow
[08:56] <Mjuksel> i partitioned 50gb as / , 50gb swap and 400gb /home/
[08:56] <Gerwin> 50GB swap is way too much
[08:56] <Gerwin> 4-8 GB will do
[08:56] <Mjuksel> okay Gerwin , but wil ubuntu run slow with too much swap room?
[08:57] <sisal> Mjuksel: define "slow"
[08:57] <Jordan_U> Mjuksel: No.
[08:57] <Mjuksel> sisal: well i had ubuntu on my laptop first.. it was lightning fast..
[08:58] <Mjuksel> now when i browsing, it lags as hell
[08:58] <Gerwin> Jordan_U: It will, actually
[08:58] <Gerwin> Let me just find the source of that
[08:58] <Mjuksel> also when i install a package from Software Centre, the computer will go slooooooooooooow :S
[08:58] <Gerwin> The swappiness parameter controls the tendency of the kernel to move processes out of physical memory and onto the swap disk. Because disks are much slower than RAM, this can lead to slower response times for system and applications if processes are too aggressively moved out of memory.
[08:58] <Mjuksel> well Gerwin , i dont think its the swap.. i instaled it without swap first and it ran faster..
[08:58] <Gerwin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[08:59] <ss_> hello (test)
[09:00] <diskun> Jordan_U: thank you :)
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Gerwin: From that link: "The only downside to having more swap space than you will actually use is the disk space you will be reserving for it."
[09:01] <llutz_> Gerwin: you read that FAQ, specially last sentence before "Examples" from "How much swap do i need?"
[09:01] <tanath> is there a wine help channel i can join?
[09:02] <Jordan_U> Gerwin: Swappiness != swap.
[09:02] <tanath> or any wine experts about? :P
[09:02] <Surlent777> tanath: if there's any channel it'd be mentioned on winehq
[09:02] <llutz_> tanath: #winehq
[09:02] <Jordan_U> !wine | tanath
[09:02] <Surlent777> or that
[09:02] <Mjuksel> !swap
[09:02] <tanath> ah, thanks. i had tried #wine
[09:03] <Mjuksel> so correct me if im wrong, if i set Swappiness to 0
[09:03] <Mjuksel> it should run faster?
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Mjuksel: It depends on the circumstances. If that were universally true it would be the default.
[09:04] <llutz_> Mjuksel: try it, do "sudo swapoff -a" and check for differences
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Mjuksel: Try describing what types of actions are particularly slow.
[09:05] <Mjuksel> well actually everything lags.. browsing, emesene, installing/deleting stuff..
[09:05] <io3> anybody know how to set a guests ip address to static and give it an ip from a script running on the host?
[09:05] <Mjuksel> lags all the time..
[09:06] <shell_> всем привет=)
[09:06] <sisal> Mjuksel: what VGA do you have in that system?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Mjuksel: what swap usage does htop show you?
[09:07] <oCean> !ru | shell_
[09:08] <aaron_au> Could I pls get a hand getting dual monitor desktop working in natty ?
[09:08] <aaron_au> i can't seem to get anything except screen cloning working
[09:09] <tanath> can anyone help me with trying to run malware bytes from live disc?
[09:09] <tanath> no responses in #winehq
[09:09] <aaron_au> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. requested position/size for CRTC 64 is outside the allowed limit: position (=1280, 0), size(1920, 1920)"
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> tanath: what do you mean by 'run malware bytes'?
[09:10] <blargg> Mjuksel, what does System Monitor show for CPU usage (or alternately, the top command?)
[09:10] <tanath> MonkeyDust, where's the confusion? i need to scan my .wine folder from live disc...
[09:11] <tanath> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/615217/
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> tanath: ok, so wine :)
[09:11] <wraithguard01> Hey, is there a way to programmatically change the volume in 10.10? I have an app that I wrote that used DBus to send messages to ayatana, and that worked great, but that seems to be gone in 10.10. I know 10.10 is an older release, but I'm constrained by that requirement.
[09:11] <tanath> MonkeyDust, yeah. asked in #winehq, but no one's talking in there
[09:11] <wraithguard01> I'm using java, so I can use either dbus, or fire off another process to handle it for me
[09:12] <tanath> MonkeyDust, when i run it while system is running it detects a couple things, but can't finish
[09:12] <tanath> MonkeyDust, now if i can get it working from live disc i should be good
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> tanath: i do not have wine installed, maybe someone else can help
[09:13] <Mjuksel> MonkeyDust: i cant see now, im at work..
[09:13] <Jordan_U> tanath: AVG has a linux version of their antivirus.
[09:13] <Mjuksel> ill have a look tonight, that will be in about 9 hours :)
[09:14] <tanath> Jordan_U, heh. not sure i want to bother with that. avg is the worst antivirus
[09:14] <Mjuksel> lol
[09:14] <Mjuksel> for free its actually pretty good, but i never use virus scanners
[09:14] <sisal> Mjuksel: I would try to look on the graphic card drivers, since i am ATI user i know that this can be major fubar when running funky compiz effects (sloooow).
[09:14] <Mjuksel> just run Malware Bytes occasionally, although that is on windows.
[09:14] <tanath> Mjuksel, no, it really isn't. it has the absolute worst detection rates
[09:14] <Mjuksel> hmm, sisal its onboard video
[09:14] <Mjuksel> lol yeah really ?
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> so malware bytes is a programme
[09:15] <Mjuksel> yeah, but i dont know if it can be run on linux :p
[09:15] <Mjuksel> its the best for Windows..
[09:15] <tanath> MonkeyDust, yeah. one of the better malware scanners for windows
[09:15] <Mjuksel> it clears everything :)
[09:15] <tanath> Mjuksel, indeed it can
[09:15] <Mjuksel> if not THE best tanath :)
[09:15] <tanath> Mjuksel, my problem is getting it running from live disc
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> tanath: linux has clam av
[09:15] <tanath> Mjuksel, got an opinion on what is?
[09:15] <Mjuksel> ah okay tanath :)
[09:16] <Mjuksel> opinion on what ?
[09:16] <tanath> MonkeyDust, indeed, but in my experience it never finds anything even when there's something to be found
[09:16] <masdiq> lis
[09:16] <masdiq> list
[09:16] <Mjuksel> :p i dont have tooo much experience on the Linux/Ubuntu side.. im just casually learning stuff :)
[09:16] <tanath> MonkeyDust, only thing clam ever found for me was EICAR
[09:16] <IdleOne> tanath: have you checked the wine appdb?
[09:16] <kilon> anyone knows how to disable the default behaviour of alt key so i can use it inside blender  ?
[09:16] <IdleOne> !appdb
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> tanath: http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=49
[09:17] <IdleOne> see if it is supported at all
[09:17] <tanath> IdleOne, not sure that'd help. it runs fine when booted from hard disc. this is an odd situation/environment that's causing the issues
[09:17] <Cr4z33> Hi everybody.
[09:17] <tanath> Mjuksel, you said mbam is not the best... any opinion on what is?
[09:18] <KeKsCoRe> hey guy ... i do have a big problem with installin the wifi drivers on my netbook ... (using madwifi) ... the first error is in compiling : " /media/disk/madwifi-0.9.4/net80211/ieee80211_power:c:240: error: implicit declaration of function '__skb_append'
[09:18] <Cr4z33> Does anybody know what GRUB will I have after an Upgrade process v9.04->v9.10->v10.04->v10.10? GRUB v1 or v2?
[09:18] <ian_> anyone know a good guide on configuring squid?
[09:18] <tanath> MonkeyDust, thanks, i suppose i can give them a try, but i still want to get this working
[09:18] <ian_> I want to set up SSH so I can tunnel back through my home network for web browsing
[09:19] <Mjuksel> tanath: you said one of the better, i said if not THE best.. that means i find it the best :p
[09:19] <Mjuksel> i use it at work all the time :)
[09:19] <Mjuksel> can i hide the join/part/quits on webchat :s ?
[09:19] <DJones> Cr4z33: I would expect that you'll have grub 2 once you upgrade to the later versions
[09:19] <Jordan_U> Cr4z33: By default you will keep grub legacy, I highly recommend upgrading to grub2 though.
[09:19] <tanath> Mjuksel, oh, sorry. misread
[09:19] <Mjuksel> nevermind :p
[09:19] <TbHack> anybody know if ubuntu  10.04 supports GCC 4.5?
[09:19] <nmesis> KeKsCore i think you should compile it with 'make ' command
[09:20] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: grub2? Doesn't it give more problems with multiOS systems?
[09:20] <KeKsCoRe> nmesis: I do
[09:20] <Mjuksel> but i have a different problem too, i have a Samsung SF310 laptop , i cant install any ubuntu on it..
[09:20] <Jordan_U> Cr4z33: No, not at all.
[09:20] <nmesis> hmm
[09:20] <Mjuksel> i tried 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04 on both CD's and USB sticks..
[09:20] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: I want to use mainly the Windows Boot Loader. So can they co-exist?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> Cr4z33: Yes.
[09:21] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe, did you try other drivers?
[09:21] <tanath> MonkeyDust, the top download there is non-existent yet, and the 2nd one is one of the few worth looking at, but isn't free
[09:21] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: Ok, I might have misred then :P
[09:21] <llutz_> Cr4z33: grub2 sucks when not being installed into MBR
[09:21] <KeKsCoRe> nmesis: i didnt found others for this stupid eeepc 105r
[09:22] <Cr4z33> llutz: That's my case then? I have 3 partitions on 1 hdd. 2 Windows and 1 Ubuntu
[09:22] <nmesis> i am using eeepc too
[09:22] <nmesis> but wifi drivers are installed automatically
[09:22] <llutz_> Cr4z33: so you installed grub into partition and use an extracted BR to boot it from windows?
[09:22] <oCean> wraithguard01: I know the amixer command is capable of getting/setting Master volume
[09:22] <KeKsCoRe> .. but mine arent workin
[09:23] <Cr4z33> llutz: That's what I would like to do yes
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> tanath: try Xbill => "Get rid of those Wingdows Viruses!"
[09:23] <KeKsCoRe> and without my wifi card its completely useless
[09:23] <nmesis> what is the product name of wifi conrtroller?
[09:23] <nmesis> maybe we have thesame drivers
[09:23] <llutz_> Cr4z33: if you already have a working installation with grub1, keep it. no need to upgrade to grub2, which may run you in trouble then.
[09:23] <KeKsCoRe> atheros AR9285
[09:24] <nmesis> ill check mine
[09:24] <Mjuksel> KeKsCoRe:
[09:24] <Mjuksel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503
[09:24] <tanath> MonkeyDust, o_O
[09:24] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe were thesame
[09:24] <Jordan_U> llutz_: grub2 has no problem with being installed to a partition that any other *NIX bootloader doesn't also have. Grub2 is just more explicit about warning the user about it than other bootloaders.
[09:24] <Cr4z33> llutz: I actualy have not done the Ubuntu installation yet (struggling with RAID0), but my plan is to run Ubuntu and its grub both on the same partition.
[09:24] <nmesis> what version of ubuntu your using>
[09:25] <llutz_> Jordan_U: not according to my experience
[09:25] <Jordan_U> Cr4z33: Why are you installing such an old version of Ubuntu?
[09:25] <TbHack> anybody know how to install GCC 4.5 on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:25] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: because of raid0 not seen by the Ubuntu installers. I found out a user that installed v9.04 alternate succesfully
[09:25] <KeKsCoRe> thank you ... i will test it ^^
[09:26] <ikonia> TbHack: if it's not a package in the official repos, it's not a wise move
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> Cr4z33: is 9.04 still supported?
[09:26] <ikonia> Cr4z33: 1.) installing onto raid0 is a bad call mostly, 2.) what type of raid, software/hardware/fakeraid
[09:27] <Cr4z33> ikonia: I know I still have to see Ubuntu running after 2 years... I have Intel ICH10R
[09:27] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe i think you should download compat-wireless-2011-05-29
[09:27] <KeKsCoRe> but i need to find the version for my 2.6.28 kernel ...
[09:27] <TbHack> ikonia: yea well i couldn't find it
[09:27] <nmesis> that is driver im using
[09:27] <Jordan_U> Cr4z33: That sounds like a terrible plan. Better to find the root cause of the problem and install Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04 from the beginning.
[09:27] <TbHack> so I guess I better then get a newer version of Ubuntu
[09:27] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: Don't count on it. Many tried without success :P
[09:28] <KeKsCoRe> or should i first install the newest ubunt version
[09:28] <Cr4z33> Jordan_U: The root cause is the software RAID
[09:28] <Mjuksel> can anyone tell me if maybe Ubuntu is not really used to getting 2 videocards :P
[09:28] <ikonia> Cr4z33: ok, so it's a fake raid issue,
[09:28] <Mjuksel> that could be the problem for not installing on my laptop
[09:29] <ikonia> Cr4z33: why do you want to run on fake raid 0 ?
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> Cr4z33: is this link useful? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[09:29] <nmesis> KeKsCore im using 10.04 for my netbook its the best for me, i think 11.04 much resource hungry i tried it
[09:29] <Cr4z33> MonkeyDust: No tnx, already saw it and still no success.
[09:29] <ikonia> Cr4z33: I'm sure we can get you a working option
[09:29] <Cr4z33> ikonia: ubuntu 64 on RAID0. Can you imagine the power of it? :P
[09:29] <ikonia> Cr4z33: no - it's a false hood
[09:30] <dr-lee> hi
[09:30] <ikonia> Cr4z33: you will not see any real benifit running on raid0 over a normal single disk layout
[09:30] <KeKsCoRe> nmesis: ok sounds good i will load it ... thought of this netbook remix  and thats why i use this old ubunt
[09:30] <dr-lee> ubuntu rocks!
[09:30] <ikonia> Cr4z33: you are using "fake raid" controller, you will not see the "from the book" benifits
[09:30] <TbHack> downloading latest ubuntu, hopefully that will get me some GCC 4.5 support :P
[09:30] <Cr4z33> ikonia: Are you talking about Ubuntu only or generally?
[09:30] <ikonia> Cr4z33: generally
[09:30] <nmesis> i am using desktop version
[09:31] <Mjuksel> KeKsCoRe: are you hooked onto internet via a cable right now?
[09:31] <KeKsCoRe> nope
[09:31] <Mjuksel> you can do that backport installing for the Wlan
[09:31] <KeKsCoRe> doesnt work either
[09:31] <Mjuksel> ah !
[09:31] <Cr4z33> ikonia: I am afraid, but I don't agree. Working and playing under Windows 7 64 bit in RAID0 is much faster
[09:31] <Mjuksel> :p
[09:31] <Mjuksel> lol
[09:31] <samuel> Why is Rhythmbox now telling me the bitrate of my songs rather than just telling me they're lossless in the quality pane?
[09:31] <ikonia> Cr4z33: that's slightly different as windows has the native fake raid drivers, that chip is meant for windows
[09:31] <KeKsCoRe> and my sound doesnt work too ... so much work to du ^^
[09:31] <KeKsCoRe> *do
[09:32] <Cr4z33> ikonia: So that's not 'generally' ;)
[09:32] <samuel> ikonia: Rhythmbox used to just tell me my FLAC tracks were "lossless" rather than giving me a number. I liked it that way but now it's different :(
[09:32] <ikonia> Cr4z33: however, it is a falsehood as the cpu controlling your raid array is the cpu on your board, not a raid cards, so
[09:32] <ikonia> samuel: why are you telling me ?
[09:32] <Cr4z33> ikonia: So I wouldn't see any improvemente when i.e. compiling unde Ubuntu 64 bit in RAIDO?
[09:32] <airtonix> ikonia: because twitter is down
[09:32] <samuel> ikonia: Because I have fond memories of you.
[09:32] <masdiq> please help me?
[09:32] <airtonix> !ask
[09:33] <ikonia> Cr4z33: no, you wouldn't
[09:33] <Cr4z33> ikonia: Oh
[09:33] <D-FENS> hi folks, how can i disable it that the network manager doesnt want to connect to every wlan whats next to me?
[09:33] <Cr4z33> ikonia: So I should just stick with Ubuntu 64 on a normal SATA drive?
[09:33] <Mjuksel> D-FENS: remove the passwords or forget the networks? :p
[09:33] <Jordan_U> ikonia: I disagree. RAID0, even with FakeRAID will give a boost in areas where disk IO is the bottleneck and not CPU.
[09:33] <ikonia> Cr4z33: in my view, yes, however if you insist on it, you may want to consider looking at software raid
[09:34] <KeKsCoRe> an idea how to load this .iso on an usb stick to install it from there
[09:34] <ikonia> Jordan_U: it will give a boost, but not to the level of "see a difference when compiling"
[09:34] <dr-lee> ohm man!!! why raid??
[09:34] <dr-lee> raid dosnt bring any advantage
[09:34] <Cr4z33> ikonia: What do you mean with 'software raid' exactly? Anything that might erase my current RAID0 content?
[09:34] <ikonia> dr-lee: it can
[09:35] <D-FENS> Mjuksel, there is no password, they arent my networks, its just annoying that the networkmanager trie to connect to all which are in the list
[09:35] <ikonia> Cr4z33: linux has the ability to use software raid, which is controlled by the kernel, much in the same way as the fake raid you're trying to use
[09:35] <ikonia> Cr4z33: the difference is software raid is in the kernel, so fully supported, rather than an external device that's not
[09:35] <Mjuksel> KeKsCoRe: you mean the ubuntu iso?
[09:35] <nbros652> SMB and links question... I have a server set up that users have smb access to. I have a couple of folders that I want everyone to have access to. Is it possible to link to those folders from within each user's home directory and have it work? Right now, the link is there, and it works from ssh, but I get an access denied error when trying to access it as a windows share. I'm assuming it has something to do with the absolute path in the link making no s
[09:35] <nbros652> ense to the mounted smb folder???
[09:35] <dr-lee> look: when you want more audio tracks recorded at once you have to use a second harddisc and they nearly double the performance without reaid shit
[09:35] <KeKsCoRe> Mjuksel: yes
[09:35] <Cr4z33> ikonia: OK, and moving to that system will erase my current RAID0 content?
[09:35] <ikonia> dr-lee: control the language
[09:35] <Mjuksel> KeKsCoRe: use Unetbootin, bot windows/ubuntu :)
[09:35] <dr-lee> same with video and server stuff
[09:35] <ikonia> Cr4z33: correct, it will  (if you are using the same disks)
[09:36] <Jordan_U> KeKsCoRe: Follow the directions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download .
[09:36] <dr-lee> but raid only makes trouble
[09:36] <ikonia> dr-lee: please stop talking nonsense
[09:36] <Mjuksel> yeah Jordan_U: it says unetbootin there too right ^^
[09:36] <nmesis> wow , i just tried boxee media center its great :)
[09:36] <dr-lee> if you say so
[09:36] <Cr4z33> ikonia: Hmm I might think of it once I find a big empty drive for backupping everything. Any link where to know more about it?
[09:36] <sleon> hi
[09:36] <sleon> i have question to ubuntu 11.04
[09:36] <KeKsCoRe> Jordan_U: i tried it with this img file of the ubuntu page ... but its outdated
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Mjuksel: No, it suggests different tools that do basically the same thing. Either will work.
[09:36] <sleon> when i am printing it is always asking for the password, how to disable it?
[09:37] <sleon> this is a COOL NEW feature
[09:37] <sleon> :)
[09:37] <ikonia> Cr4z33: ton's on the web, it's supported using the alternative installCD
[09:37] <dr-lee> and be relaxed when some day the unthinkable happnes and your raid controller or motherboard has to be exchanged
[09:37] <ikonia> dr-lee: please stop now
[09:37] <Mjuksel> ah okay Jordan_U :) KeKsCoRe: just look for unetbootin, apt-get install unetbootin or download it if youre on windows now ^^
[09:37] <Cr4z33> ikonia: You talking perhaps about dmraid?
[09:37] <ikonia> Cr4z33: no, that's fake raid
[09:38] <wraithguard01> oCean-> Thank you very much, I'll look into that ^.^
[09:38] <KeKsCoRe> <- windows(-.-)  gamin pc ^^
[09:38] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe if your on ubuntu you can use startup disk creator
[09:38] <halvor> hei hei
[09:38] <Cr4z33> ikonia: Btw what about Windows then? Will it work with the software RAID created by Ubuntu? O_o
[09:38] <nmesis> ow windows XD
[09:38] <Mjuksel> hahah :p doesnt matter we still like you ^^
[09:38] <KeKsCoRe> ;)
[09:39] <johnc> hi, is there any reason the gnome desktop Appearance -> Visual effects tab is unavailable on my installation. I have the nVidia drivers installed. Additional Drivers says they are activated but not used but been told this is simply a bug saying they aren't installed when they actually are
[09:39] <dr-lee> <- ubuntu 11.04 with 2.6.39-candela kernel :)
[09:39] <johnc> ubuntu 11.04 btw
[09:39] <ikonia> Cr4z33: no, not at all,
[09:39] <nmesis> I have windows for League of legends only ahah
[09:39] <Cr4z33> ikonia: omg than it's a no no
[09:39] <halvor> could anyone notice a significant change in system responsiveness and speed after changing from globalmenu to appmenu? (in maverick)
[09:40] <Mjuksel> nmesis: i have windows for Adobe Master Suite, it sucks to get working on Ubuntu :(
[09:40] <KeKsCoRe> I am playin LoL too ^^
[09:40] <pksadiq> ubuntu 11.04 showing 10.10 in firefox first start(offline) :O
[09:40] <Mjuksel> if not i would have been running Ubuntu all the time
[09:40] <dr-lee> salasaga
[09:40] <Cr4z33> ikonia: Thanks for your support.
[09:40] <Cr4z33> Cya everybody.
[09:40] <Mjuksel> cya Cr4z33
[09:41] <KeKsCoRe> bye
[09:41] <dr-lee> removed adobe flash and installed gnash - works good :)
[09:41] <nmesis> Mjuksel, there are still bugs running it in ubuntu
[09:41] <ikonia> c_arenz: no problem
[09:41] <dr-lee> no bugs here :)
[09:42] <Mjuksel> yeah i know nmesis thats why i still run windows.
[09:42] <dr-lee> ok - ardour 3 alpha 4 is a lil unstable, when loading vst plugins without the steinberg sdk
[09:42] <KeKsCoRe> i do hate flashplayer -.-   the only firefox version workin on my windows pc is firefox 4 beta 8 ... all other versions just crashin' every 5 minutes
[09:42] <nmesis> but for my netbook full ubuntu for programming purposes
[09:43] <KeKsCoRe> and i think it comes from the adobe flash ...
[09:43] <dr-lee> javascript isnt too charming, too ?
[09:43] <Mjuksel> hmm, well actually i only need Dreamweaver from the Master Suite, but i havent found a nice html editor like dreamweaver
[09:43] <Mjuksel> at least not one that is complete like DW..
[09:43] <dr-lee> youtube can be viewed without flash using html 5
[09:44] <dr-lee> no need for adobe or other propierty software anymore - thanks you ubuntu :)
[09:44] <nmesis> does safari supports html5?
[09:45] <Gerwin> Yes, since version 4
[09:45] <dr-lee> ther is a html5 test page inthe net
[09:46] <dr-lee> salasaga can create and safe flash files :)
[09:46] <tanath> how can i enable apps run as another user to access X so i can use gui apps? on live disc if it matters
[09:47] <dr-lee> sorry i am linux noob :( cant help
[09:47] <dr-lee> what do you wanna do exactly tanath?
[09:47] <AnggaDj98> su
[09:48] <AnggaDj98> su -> substitute user
[09:48] <nbros652> SMB and links question... I have an Ubuntu server set up that users have smb access to. I have a couple of folders that I want everyone to have access to. Is it possible to link to those folders from within each user's home directory and have it work? Right now, the link is there, and it works from ssh, but I get an access denied error when trying to access it as a windows share. I'm assuming it has something to do with the absolute path in the link mak
[09:48] <nbros652> ing no sense to the mounted smb folder???
[09:48] <tanath> trying to run a gui app as another user on a live disc, but it can't because it's 'ubuntu' which has permissions for X
[09:48] <tanath> dr-lee, trying to run mbam from HDD on live disc
[09:48] <ikonia> AnggaDj98: "switch user"
[09:49] <AnggaDj98> ikonia: substitute user
[09:49] <AnggaDj98> you can substitute your user with anyone in the computer as long as you have the root password
[09:50] <yuvateja> i installed flasm package for flash animations. but it tabs or icons not appear in the applications and its sub tabs'
[09:51] <KeKsCoRe> usin unetbootin will just creat my bootable usb flash drive ... its very confusing to read install everywhere
[09:51] <dr-lee> tanath, i c - i do have some malware problems here too, but only on my old offline win7 pc.
[09:51] <KeKsCoRe> *create
[09:51] <tanath> dr-lee, mbam is good for that ;) one of the reasons i'm trying to run it
[09:51] <dr-lee> i would say dont use malware or antivir stuff
[09:51] <IdleOne> AnggaDj98: according to man su, switch user would be a more accurate description. substitute would imply using a different user to to the job of the first.
[09:51] <IdleOne> to do*
[09:52] <dr-lee> when i check my winsoftware harddisc there are maybe 100 suspecious files, many of them keygens and patches
[09:52] <AnggaDj98> ah
[09:52] <tanath> always thought it was super user
[09:52] <AnggaDj98> su is short of substitute user but the command implies switch user
[09:52] <AnggaDj98> i got it
[09:52] <stretchmark> ping
[09:52] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe, what do you mean?
[09:52] <yuvateja> may i install vm ware from ubuntu /
[09:53] <dr-lee> isnt qemu not usefull?
[09:53] <KeKsCoRe> when i start unetbootin ... usin my iso ...   then there is extracting files ... and then smth about installing
[09:54] <AnggaDj98> KeKsCoRe: its installing your iso to the removable drive
[09:54] <AnggaDj98> (flashdisk)
[09:54] <KeKsCoRe> hmm but why restart o.O
[09:54] <tanath> how can i run gui apps (on live disc) as another user?
[09:54] <AnggaDj98> after installing, yes
[09:54] <nmesis> thats auto i think
[09:54] <johnc> hi, is there any reason the gnome desktop Appearance -> Visual effects tab is unavailable on my installation. I have the nVidia drivers installed. Additional Drivers says they are activated but not used but been told this is simply a bug saying they aren't installed when they actually are
[09:54] <dr-lee> startxserv or something i guess
[09:55] <tanath> cannot open display: :0.0
[09:55] <KeKsCoRe> ... so now to a completly other question ...
[09:55] <dr-lee> dont know exactly
[09:55] <dr-lee> but there is a commans to start the xserv
[09:55] <tanath> startX
[09:55] <KeKsCoRe> how do i stream my media files in my network (from win pc)  so that i can use them on the netbook
[09:55] <tanath> dr-lee, X is already running though ;)
[09:55] <dr-lee> but i tell you my friend, in linux world i havent found a malware problem :)
[09:56] <Trond--> Does Totem mediaplayer have a irc channel ?
[09:56] <AnggaDj98> KeKsCoRe: remotely?
[09:56] <dr-lee> only windows world, so stay away from the not opens source stuff
[09:56] <AnggaDj98> KeKsCoRe: never mind
[09:56] <tanath> dr-lee, it's windows malware. hence windows scanner :P
[09:56] <tanath> dr-lee, not always an option
[09:56] <dr-lee> and then? it find 100 nice apps and you have to delete em :(
[09:57] <tanath> nah
[09:57] <dr-lee> i am only using the win 7 for things i cant do with ubuntu
[09:57] <KeKsCoRe> ... kind of like the file-sharing option of win
[09:57] <dr-lee> really, you will see: many keygens and patches which will be detected as malware
[09:58] <tanath> dr-lee, i'll not buy windows since they stopped giving the install disc even when you buy the OS
[09:58] <dr-lee> ok
[09:58] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, oh? nothing you can't do just as good or better on linux
[09:58] <tanath> dr-lee, re: keygens, i know
[09:58] <dr-lee> yep
[09:58] <tanath> dr-lee, some of them will work, yet still actually are malware though ;)
[09:58] <tanath> dr-lee, such as the one that caused this prob
[09:59] <KeKsCoRe> ? im confused
[09:59] <nmesis> KeKsCoRe, do you mean file sharing between lan?
[09:59] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, i'm confused why you're confused...
[09:59] <dr-lee> as mentioned, nearly everything can be done within ubuntu
[10:00] <KeKsCoRe> yeah kind of ... but just for my music and my movies
[10:00] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, right-click folder, share..
[10:00] <dr-lee> flash, photoshop files loading  and safing, windows and osx photoshop plugins importing, win 32 and 64 vst plugins importing.....
[10:00] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, shows up on network. grab files at will
[10:00] <photon> hi. I have successfully mounted my sd card, then safely removed it. now I want to remount it again, but after plugging it into the slot, Ubuntu does not recognize it. I presume this is because I previously unmounted it. how can I make it show up again?
[10:00] <KeKsCoRe> ... but between win and linux ?
[10:00] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, yes
[10:00] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, use samba
[10:01] <Shirakawasuna> I'm having some problems w/ guake - the first tab has proper transparency, but subsequent ones are entirely opaque (black background).  I'm using Unity + nouveau.  Anyone else have this issue?
[10:01] <Shirakawasuna> (or anyone aware of a fix?)
[10:02] <nmesis> photon , look at disk utility at administration>disk utility check if there is inserter dev/sdX
[10:02] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[10:02] <nmesis> you can also mount it there
[10:02] <prezident> everytime i load up my linux with linux-image-2. 2.6.38-8.42  my screen turns black and i can't go anywhere i have to reboot ive tried recovery but still didn't work anybody know whats going on ?
[10:02] <KeKsCoRe> okey and what to do on win ?
[10:02] <tanath> Shirakawasuna, i blame unity
[10:03] <photon> nmesis: it's not there. it also looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/751644 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/743303
[10:03] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, er... are you sending files both ways? if not, which way?
[10:03] <Shirakawasuna> so do I ;)
[10:03] <KeKsCoRe> from win to linux
[10:03] <Shirakawasuna> but I actually like unity, just not this little bug
[10:03] <dr-lee> i can truly recommend ubuntu natty with 2.6.39 candela kernel
[10:03] <photon> nmesis: I wonder if there is a way to remount it without having to restart ubuntu.
[10:04] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, then depends on what version. google how to share files on network for your os. ubuntu can navigate windows network via samba
[10:04] <KeKsCoRe> ok i got it
[10:04] <KeKsCoRe> ... thanks
[10:05] <tanath> photon, 'man mount'
[10:05] <dr-lee> any1 here who knows how i can find out if wine64 is installed ( not wine 32bit)
[10:05] <photon> tanath: sure, but what should I mount? there is no additional device in /dev/sd*, like there usually is.
[10:05] <KeKsCoRe> -.- ubuntu 10.04 netbook ... -> wireless is workin
[10:05] <tanath> photon, sorry, missed the rest of your issue
[10:06] <tanath> photon, restate?
[10:06] <KeKsCoRe> but my touchpad not o.O
[10:06] <photon> tanath: I have successfully mounted my sd card, then safely removed it. now I want to remount it again, but after plugging it into the slot, Ubuntu does not recognize it. I presume this is because I previously unmounted it. how can I make it show up again?
[10:06] <tanath> photon, shouldn't be because you unmounted it. it should detect it. wiggle it mebbe? plug again?
[10:07] <tanath> photon, try different port?
[10:07] <photon> tanath: it seems to be a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/743303
[10:07] <photon> tanath: will try\
[10:07] <tanath> hm
[10:07] <nmesis> photon, you can make manual mounting it
[10:07] <tanath> photon, i may have encountered that bug. usually using a different port works
[10:08] <photon> nmesis: yeah, but how do I go about remounting it if it does not show up as a device in /dev/?
[10:08] <photon> tanath: I only have one SD card port
[10:08] <tanath> photon, run 'nautilus -q' and try again
[10:08] <tanath> photon, any file manager windows will close
[10:09] <tanath> photon, alt+f2 > nautilus -q
[10:09] <tanath> or from terminal
[10:10] <photon> tanath: did it, still now showing up. I think it's because I used "safely remove device" and not just "unmount" from the device's menu.
[10:10] <tanath> photon, possibly, but you _should_ use safely remove
[10:10] <photon> is there a device recognition service running in the background I could restart?
[10:11] <CooKieMonster> anyone here now a regular express that remove all links ?
[10:11] <masdiq> haii
[10:11] <beli> CooKieMonster: be more specific...what are you going to do?
[10:11] <tanath> photon, try sudo service udevmonitor restart
[10:13] <beli> CooKieMonster: maybe you want sth. like: find . -maxdepth 1 -type l -exec rm -f {} \;
[10:13] <KeKsCoRe> ubuntu 10.04 is workin muuuuuch better ... than 9.04 .... (in case of my netbook ) ... it was laggin all the time .... but ... and now the live of 10.04  works more  fluent then the installed 9
[10:13] <KeKsCoRe> niiice ^^
[10:14] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, 10.10 is the best so far :P
[10:14] <dr-lee> :)
[10:14] <KeKsCoRe> but ther is not 10 10 netbook version ... or i just found none
[10:14] <nmesis> i havent tried 10.10 just 10.04 - 11.04
[10:14] <photon> tanath: didn't do it. well, I give up. thanks for your support though. :)
[10:14] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, upgrade distro via repos?
[10:14] <AlexandrosGR> i can't remove the 266 driver
[10:14] <AlexandrosGR> please help me!!
[10:15] <tanath> photon, would take more time to narrow down. if short on time a reboot is likely to work
[10:15] <dr-lee> the latest kernel runs very efficient and is suposed to be realtime
[10:15] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:15] <KeKsCoRe> tanath: im just a complete linux newbie ... but i have the skills and the might to google ... and i have a brain ... and ... ^^ im lazy :)
[10:15] <zl0y> hi all
[10:15] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:16] <beli> AlexandrosGR: be more specific and be patient!
[10:16] <tanath> AlexandrosGR, if you stated an error you might get some help
[10:16] <zl0y> can any body help me to mount smb without sudo or root? whitch group I should append user to?
[10:16] <tanath> AlexandrosGR, helping helpers help you helps :P
[10:16] <nbros652> found the answer to my own question: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5120/make-samba-follow-symlink-outside-share
[10:16] <beli> zl0y: you can add conmands for users to be allowd to do them with sudo also
[10:16] <p1oooop> zl0y: I'm afraid that's not possible (in any way that I know of)
[10:17] <p1oooop> other than that... LOL
[10:17] <p1oooop> but then, it would pose a security risk...
[10:17] <p1oooop> (in case someone decides to mount something malicious)
[10:17] <AlexandrosGR> it tell me that i don't have privileges to do this action
[10:17] <zl0y> beli, without sudo
[10:17] <AlexandrosGR> and the window that i should put my pass shakes
[10:18] <nmesis> AlexandrosGR sudo then the command
[10:18] <beli> zl0y: setuid/setgid script that does the job...but thats really not for security
[10:18] <tanath> shakes? o_O
[10:18] <AlexandrosGR> how?i dont know?
[10:18] <nmesis> maybe the screen lock @@
[10:18] <zl0y> beli, could you please describe more detailed about setuid/setgid script?
[10:19] <beli> zl0y: read the chmod manual and search for setuid bit
[10:19] <tanath> dammit, this happens like every time i come here. come here for help and spend more time helping others than getting help
[10:20] <beli> zl0y: but use sudo....sudo is not for giving root access only...read its manual too
[10:20] <zl0y> beli, I know what is the chmod and setuid bit
[10:20] <nmesis> tanath helping is fun ^^
[10:20] <beli> zl0y: so wheres the problem then?
[10:20] <tanath> nmesis, sometimes, lol
[10:20] <nmesis> haha
[10:20] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:20] <tanath> nmesis, but it's 520am here and i want to get this scan started so i can go to bed >.<
[10:20] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm on ubuntu 11.04, since a few days ago i get lots of noise on my microphone. anyone got an idea how to debug this?
[10:20] <zl0y> beli, what the script? where I should change bit?
[10:21] <nmesis> LOL, 5:20 ?
[10:21] <tanath> nmesis, yeah...
[10:21] <nmesis> drink energy drink so you will be still alive
[10:22] <tanath> nmesis, no, i need to sleep soon, lol
[10:22] <dr-lee> @pvh_sa having problems here too with the build in mic in ubuntu 11.04
[10:22] <tanath> nmesis, caffeine bad
[10:22] <marcus_dust> hi
[10:22] <nmesis> if not too much its helpful
[10:23] <pvh_sa> dr-lee, i've got a toshiba portege r700 ic2, what do you have?
[10:23] <beli> zl0y: you said you know what it is.....so why not read the manuals for detailed information?
[10:23] <dr-lee> medion discounter laptop with intelcore2duo@1.4 ghz - 4 years old
[10:23] <zl0y> beli, I have already read it
[10:23] <KeKsCoRe> ... <sing> this was a triumph, im makin a note here: HUGE SUCCESS</sing>
[10:24] <zl0y> beli, You told about script
[10:24] <nmesis> congrats KeKsCoRe
[10:24] <KeKsCoRe> thank you all seems to work so far ^^
[10:24] <zl0y> beli, what script was you talking about?
[10:25] <nmesis> your using 10.04 netbook edition?
[10:25] <KeKsCoRe> yeah
[10:25] <beli> zl0y: yes...create a script/binary/whatever that does the job you want......put it into a public ENV path, give it the user/group and special setuid/setgid perms you want it to have....and have your users run it ;)
[10:25] <beli> zl0y:  and again.....use sudo features.......read the manual...its all in there
[10:26] <zl0y> I can't use sudo
[10:26] <beli> zl0y: do not use setgid/setgid if there is really no other possibility
[10:26] <beli> zl0y: why not?
[10:27] <zl0y> because the program will perform all actions automatically, but it cannot enter password
[10:27] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, samba, etc?
[10:28] <beli> zl0y: open your mind and trust me and read the sudo manuals! you can do it with NOPASSWD option
[10:28] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:28] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, now you got that song stuck in my head. thanks
[10:28] <KeKsCoRe> im installin samba right after updatin
[10:29] <prezident> can anybody tell me how to fix a kernel that doesn't want to work everytime i try to go on 2.6.38-8-generic it gives me black screen and doesn't want to run any fix /
[10:29] <prezident> ?
[10:29] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, ...no use crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying 'till you run out of cake!
[10:29] <ubuntu_> how can i add nickname to a group?
[10:29] <KeKsCoRe> how do i update on 10.10
[10:29] <zamba> the latest nvidia driver has messed up my two-display setup.. instead of getting two separate screens, where i can make one primary and place the launcher on, it's now a continous space
[10:29] <zl0y> beli, ok, thank you very much
[10:30] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, 'sudo do-release-upgrade' i think
[10:30] <zamba> previously i got two outputs when i used 'xrandr', but now i only got one
[10:30] <ubuntu_> help me please
[10:30] <beli> ubuntu_: man useradd --> G option
[10:32] <tanath> prezident, any other signs of life? disk activity? does it freeze?
[10:32] <ubuntu_> i can't join to c++ channel.how to join to it?
[10:33] <tanath> prezident, if it doesn't freeze, try setting video mode to something low that should work?
[10:33] <tanath>  /j #channel
[10:33] <prezident> i can't even log on
[10:33] <prezident> it just a black screen
[10:33] <tanath> prezident, you set it in grub by adding it to the command line
[10:33] <prezident> tanath its just a black screen and it doesn't move
[10:33] <ubuntu_> help
[10:34] <MaDiNfO_Work> hi
[10:34] <tanath> prezident, listen for hard drive activity. hit numlock/capslock to see if keyboard freezes
[10:34] <IdleOne> ubuntu_: you need to register you nick to enter #c++
[10:34] <IdleOne> !register | ubuntu_
[10:34] <ubuntu_> how to register in c++?
[10:34] <tanath> prezident, if it's not locking up, hit 'e' in grub to edit command line. look up grub stuff for what to do
[10:34] <prezident> ive tried its not the hard drive its the kernel bcuz when i got to an older kernel it works fine
[10:34] <IdleOne> ubuntu_: read the link ubottu just gave you.
[10:35] <MaDiNfO_Work> is anyone knows if Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[10:35] <MaDiNfO_Work>  PHP version is going to be updated soon ? to  5.3.4???  5.3.2 has some security issues...
[10:35] <tanath> prezident, i didn't suggest it was 'the hard drive' i said to listen to hard drive activity to see if it was doing anything while you couldn't see shit
[10:35] <IdleOne> tanath: no cursing please
[10:36] <XuMuK> hi folks
[10:36] <zl0y> one more question
[10:36] <tanath> IdleOne, yeah, it's 536am. i'm tired
[10:36] <prezident> lol tanath are you mad ? lol calm down buddy
[10:36] <yassine_hell_> hi ... bored what can we do on linux ..
[10:36] <zl0y> wat's wrong: sudo ip route add 192.168.10.0/24 via 192.168.10.4 dev eth0
[10:36] <zl0y> [sudo] password for int:
[10:36] <zl0y> RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[10:36] <prezident> thanx neway for your help
[10:36] <MuNk`> how do you restart the unity bar? >.> its frozen on me
[10:36] <IdleOne> tanath: then go to sleep if you can't control yourself :)
[10:36] <tanath> prezident, i come here to get help, and typically end up helping others 'til the wee hours. i need to go to bed
[10:36] <XuMuK> now all my links in weechat are opened by ff and I would like to use chrome instead
[10:37] <XuMuK> how should I change it?
[10:37] <prezident> tanath o ok go head man get sum rest
[10:37] <tanath> IdleOne, there's also the fact that i don't necessarily agree with the policy, but i don't bother disputing it
[10:37] <XuMuK> Any idea?
[10:37] <tanath> prezident, i'd rather not waste time. i need my issue resolved. i can't do much with my comp right now
[10:37] <IdleOne> tanath: agrrement is not required, only compliance.
[10:37] <prezident> aww man
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, need to start a scan before bed, but having trouble with that
[10:38] <yassine_hell_> question : whats linux redhat?
[10:38] <prezident> a scan i hope not for viruses
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, yup
[10:38] <prezident> on linux ?
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, well, malware anyway
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> yassine_hell_: red hat is a distro, like ubuntu fedora or suse
[10:38] <DJones> yassine_hell_: Its another version of the linus operating syatem
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, windows malware
[10:38] <prezident> oooo man windows suck ! no offense windows ppl
[10:39] <tanath> prezident, trying to get windows scanner working from live disc
[10:39] <yassine_hell_> :) ok ty
[10:39] <DJones> !redhat | yassine_hell_
[10:39] <IdleOne> yassine_hell_: redhat.com and it is offtopic for here, you can maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:39] <XuMuK> Someone can help me, please?
[10:39] <user> I have a huge prob with Linux Mint and Ubuntu
[10:39] <yassine_hell_> IdleOne sorry..
[10:39] <prezident> its tons of freen scans online that are not scams
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> !ask| XuMuK
[10:39] <prezident> try one
[10:39] <user> I might switch to Windows if I can't fix it
[10:39] <improveupon> ! my gui keeps freezing after suspend (on a laptop) and half the time when i boot it it doesn't ask for a login
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> user: whats the prob?
[10:40] <tanath> prezident, you know one that could work? :P
[10:40] <improveupon> relax, i did not mean to summon thee, bot
[10:40] <XuMuK> MonkeyDust, I asked allready but none answered
[10:40] <user> How to bblock porn in Ubuntu or Linux Mint and how to stop getting tempted to wacth porn
[10:40] <KeKsCoRe> now updatin and upgradin ^^
[10:40] <user> Plz porn is a serious problem that needs to be stoppoed now
[10:41] <XuMuK> now all my links in weechat are opened by ff and I would like to use chrome instead
[10:41] <yassine_hell_> ok , i tried to enter to my router with firefox, but it says i need javascript or something like that ...
[10:41] <XuMuK> how should I change it?
[10:41] <tanath> prezident, just tried bitdefender. not compatible with linux :P
[10:41] <user> usually it happens when I am bored so if u can tell me some fun stuff to do on Ubuntu for free I might stop it
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> user: i think that is not ubuntu related, it is a prob on all platforms and world wide
[10:41] <prezident> yea i was just checking that one out
[10:41] <prezident> i thought you had windows
[10:41] <prezident> ?
[10:41] <user> yeah but haerd to block on Ubuntu
[10:42] <improveupon> user, go out and buy porn not on the computer
[10:42] <prezident> http://download.cnet.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition-2011/3000-2239_4-10320142.html
[10:42] <prezident> tanath http://download.cnet.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition-2011/3000-2239_4-10320142.html
[10:42] <XuMuK> useless channel, it's about anything less ubuntu help...
[10:43] <improveupon> i want ubuntu help
[10:43] <tanath> prezident, avg is terrible. i'll not bother with it
[10:43] <prezident> o ok
[10:43] <tanath> prezident, it has like the worst detection rates
[10:43] <prezident> tanath if you wanna make sure windows don't have malware just throw your computer out the window
[10:43] <tanath> :P
[10:44] <yassine_hell_> how can i make the sound gets out from the headphones only?
[10:44] <tanath> prezident, i managed for nearly 2 decades to never get infected. first time 'cause i trusted a friend
[10:44] <ns5> Hi!  Has the power consumption bug in 11.04 been fixed?
[10:45] <prezident> tanath smh thats f^
[10:45] <yassine_hell_> ??
[10:45] <prezident> what type of malware is it you know
[10:45] <prezident> what is it doin to your cpu
[10:45] <tanath> prezident, trojans
[10:45] <jpds> !ot | tanath, prezident
[10:45] <tanath> prezident, and rootkit methinks
[10:45] <tanath> jpds, it's called context
[10:45] <ShishKabab> I think my NVidia 8600GT card is slowly dying. I'm thinking of replacing it with an ATI Radeon HD5670. I've heard that there were a lot of issues with ATI drivers, but ATI has open-sourced the drivers since then, What's the stance on ATI drivers nowadays?
[10:46] <tanath> prezident, hm. trend micro one won't let me click next on license agreement. nothing happens
[10:46] <yassine_hell_> ??
[10:48] <yassine_hell_> any one knows how?
[10:48] <dsathe> r u talking bout antivirus ?
[10:48] <dsathe> u dont need it
[10:49] <yassine_hell_> dsathe me? no im not talking about anti viruis
[10:49] <tanath> dsathe, how would you know?
[10:49] <dsathe> wat u askin ?
[10:49] <dsathe> i read trend micro
[10:49] <MuNk`> the bar on the side of net ubuntu 11.04, has locked up is there a way to reload it?
[10:49] <dsathe> srry just came ol
[10:50] <dsathe> MuNk`: compiz --replace
[10:50] <yassine_hell_> dsathe i want to use only the headphones on my ubuntu , not the seekers
[10:50] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, discussion which AV would be better is an offtopic discussion and not support related.
[10:50] <dsathe> aah kk
[10:50] <dsathe> laptop model ?
[10:50] <yassine_hell_> i tried to "mute" the "master" in the mixer
[10:50] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, not aware of anyone having that discussion
[10:50] <dsathe> u probably have to add a line to modprobe.conf or alsa.conf
[10:50] <monkey> ne one tried backtrack 5?
[10:51] <yassine_hell_> monkey i am lol
[10:51] <yassine_hell_> dsathe wer do i find that?
[10:51] <XenoPhoenix> Since the upgrade to 11.04, my video is green until I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it back in, If i then turn the TV off and on again it's green again till I replug it again, (intel driver) and idea what might be causing this and how to solve it?
[10:51] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, and actually, it would be support related for my issue
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, it would not be. What would be support related is finding a way to remove the trojan, discussion which AV is not.
[10:52] <HectorAOssaH> nick newnic
[10:52] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, that would be the point of discussing which is more effective no?
[10:52] <monkey> code/programming  questions can be asked here?......m new to this
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, no, the point would be how to remove that trojan, the discussion which is better has no effect on that.
[10:52] <asdjaputra> monkey, no
[10:52] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, but again, didn't see anyone having that discussion, so not sure why you're telling me that
[10:53] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, better _for removing said malware_
 prezident, avg is terrible. i'll not bother with it
[10:53] <asdjaputra> monkey, ask a programming specific channel
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[10:53] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, nothing wrong with that comment
[10:53] <monkey> programming specific channel plz!!!!!!!!!!11
[10:54] <asdjaputra> ##C?
[10:54] <monkey> java
[10:54] <tanath> monkey, there's different ones for different langauges
[10:54] <hase> I'm trying to set up port forwarding
[10:54] <asdjaputra> #java?
[10:54] <yassine_hell_> so how can i use only my headphones in ubuntu?
[10:54] <monkey> asdjaputra:plz help me out.........need it urgently
[10:54] <tanath> hase, you should prolly use gufw
[10:55] <asdjaputra> monkey, google for "Java freenode channel"
[10:57] <arovij> in my synaptec manager i see xvfb2:1.4.1 but I want to download xvfb2:1.4.2 . how do i do that?
[10:57] <asdjaputra> monkey, i found ##java
[10:57] <tanath> arovij, ctrl+e
[10:58] <asdjaputra> but you need to be registered with the network
[10:58] <arovij> tanath : I am sorry please give more details.
[10:58] <tanath> arovij, select package > ctrl+e. if it sees multiple versions it'll let you choose and 'force version'
[10:59] <arovij> tanath : Thanks. but here also i don't see 2:1.4.2 I see only 2:1.4.1 version
[10:59] <arovij> tanath : let me do a apt-get update
[10:59] <tanath> arovij, good idea
[11:00] <tanath> arovij, must be in a repo to install with synaptic
[11:01] <hase> I changed my network interfaces and hosts files to give myself a static ip and it changed my ip on my router, but when i set up the port forwarding on the rotuer it still says it's not open on the website to check it, I just tried gufw and that didn't seem to change anything...
[11:02] <arovij> tanath : i did a sudo apt-get update but in synaptec i still don't see latest version .. may be it's because My Ubuntu 8.04.4 is not supposed to have that???
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, likely. enable backports repository and see if it shows up
[11:03] <monkey> programming specific channel plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:03] <jpds> monkey: Well, which programming language?
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, poke in synaptic's menus. you should find it
[11:03] <arovij> tanath : am new to this.. please tell me how do I do this. Thanks for your patience. :)
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, don't forget to update/reload again
[11:03] <monkey> jpds:java
[11:04] <jpds> monkey: Tried ##java ?
[11:05] <tanath> arovij, somewhere in the menus it says Repositories. look for the backports repo and enable it. then reload
[11:07] <Iraqi> I have error in time installing AR5523 but there error : Couldn't create the /usr/src/linux symlink! and I googled was found in ubuntu have same ! how fix it?
[11:08] <monkey> jdps: its not connectin
[11:08] <arovij> tanath : I found repositories. But am not able to find backports repo.. give me a min... i
[11:09] <tanath> arovij, settings > repositories > updates
[11:09] <tanath> arovij, enable proposed and backports
[11:10] <tanath> arovij, also, enable security updates without confirmation is a good idea
[11:10] <CooKieMonster> meow~
[11:11] <arovij> tanath : it's greyed out for me... I cannot select any of those :(
[11:11] <yassine_hell_> hey
[11:11] <tanath> arovij, did you somehow do something to your sources.list?
[11:12] <ys0> ohi
[11:12] <arovij> tanath : guilty as charged.. yes I have messed up that..
[11:12] <tanath> arovij, i guess you're missing a few
[11:12] <ys0> there are some 8086 emulator for ubuntu?
[11:12] <codingenesis> can anyone tell me, what .thumnails  is meant for ???
[11:12] <tanath> arovij, ubuntu tweak is a handy app for editing it
[11:12] <codingenesis> thumbnails *
[11:12] <ys0> i have to test some simple source code
[11:13] <prod___> Hi all, i have a small problem that is mainly because i am unable to word it and find a response on google. I bought a vpn account and was given a vpn-provider.ca.crt. I am trying to automate the vpn connection on startup but as its a "username and password style" vpn connection it requires me to enter details before connecting (not very automated). I think i need to create .key files but am unsure. Can anyone help me? Jus
[11:13] <prod___> t a link to a tutorial/docu would be enough. The ubuntu docu only says about creatin new certificates and not what i am looking for. TIA
[11:14] <ys0> anyone knows a 8086 simulator for linux?
[11:14] <arovij> tanath : ok... I couple of weeks back I wanted to compile firefox and it needed older version of some softwares so I added few stuff and i din keep a backup of my sources.list.. How do I rectify that?
[11:14] <Pokemon> i do not know
[11:14] <ys0> Pokemon: thx for the answeer ;)
[11:14] <codingenesis> hey  pls tell me .....what are .thumbnail in home folder for ???
[11:14] <tanath> arovij, why compile when there are ready-made binaries?
[11:14] <codingenesis> do they automatically take the snapshot of what ayou are doing ??
[11:15] <arovij> tanath : I wanted to apply some patches I had written
[11:15] <tanath> arovij, 8.04 ?
[11:15] <arovij> tanath : yes
[11:15] <tanath> arovij, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783577
[11:16] <tanath> arovij, good reason for old release?
[11:16] <codingenesis> what ever images i saw got saved in .thumbnails folder in home !! How is that possible ???
[11:16] <DasEi> arovij: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:16] <codingenesis> does it mean someone hacked my pc ???
[11:17] <tanath> codingenesis, uh, they're the cached thumbnails...
[11:17] <arovij> tanath : No particular reason.. Just scared. Don't want to break stuff till present project is over
[11:17] <tanath> arovij, ubuntu improved much up 'till 10.10
[11:18] <codingenesis> tanath : So it is all normal ??
[11:18] <tanath> codingenesis, yes
[11:18] <arovij> tanath : i will update it this weekend :) Thanks for your help..
[11:19] <tanath> codingenesis, file manager makes thumbnails (mini versions) so you can see what the image looks like before opening it. these are cached so it doesn't have to recreate them every time
[11:19] <tanath> arovij, np
[11:19] <codingenesis> tanath: so why they are stored in thumbnails folder??
[11:19] <asdjaputra> 10% battery remaning!
[11:19] <tanath> codingenesis, that's the location of the cache. such mini images are known as thumbnails
[11:19] <codingenesis> why are they cached ??
[11:20] <tanath> codingenesis, for performance
[11:20] <tanath> codingenesis, would be slow if it had to rescan all the images every time you opened the folder
[11:20] <arovij> tanath : for the time being if I want to use a wget to get the latest Xvfb and not apt-get. Is it possible?
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, yeah. can browse to packages.ubuntu.com i think and grab packages manually
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, gwget is handy btw
[11:21] <arovij> tanath , gwget.. ok lemme check that...
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, then 'dpkg -i package.deb' to install
[11:22] <arovij> ok..
[11:22] <codingenesis> tanath: thanks  :)   so in windows there must also be something similar to thumbnails folder ???
[11:22] <tanath> arovij, simple gui for wget. resides in notification area
[11:22] <tanath> codingenesis, yeah
[11:23] <codingenesis> tanath: can you tell me where i can find that??
[11:23] <arovij> tanath.. one problem I am looking for Xvfb is , the machine where I am trying to install this doesn't 've a X . No monitor..
[11:23] <tanath> codingenesis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_thumbnail_cache
[11:23] <rileyp> need help with usb sound card on 10.04
[11:23] <tanath> arovij, ah
[11:24] <rileyp> sound comes out in mythtv but sounds awful
[11:24] <rileyp> no sound in firefox or vlc
[11:24] <arovij> tanath : The whole idea is to run firefox in a machine which doen't 've a x. It already has a Xvfb but not the latest version.. want to get the latest version..
[11:24] <rileyp> it comes up as usb audip
[11:24] <osse> In gnome-terminal there is an option under Keyboard preferences to turn off menu access via the Alt key. But it doesn't have any effect. I'm on 11.04. Is there a way to get around it?
[11:24] <tanath> arovij, o_O if you want a browser for a box without X, i'd recommend elinks
[11:25] <rileyp> can anyomne help me with my asound.rc
[11:25] <tanath> arovij, seems to be the best browser designed for such a scenario
[11:25] <rileyp> alsamixer wil not run
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> rileyp: more details pls, what have you, what errors do you get, what type of card do you use etc
[11:25] <arovij> tanath : Nice smiley...... ok let me try that... But does it execute javascript?
[11:25] <codingenesis> tanath: if  a remote computer wants to access those thumbnails can they access it
[11:25] <tanath> arovij, i believe so
[11:26] <arovij> tanath : am asking too many questions. let me find that out by myself.
[11:26] <tanath> codingenesis, not generally... they'd have to be able to access the folder. in which case they can access the images themselves
[11:27] <rileyp> MonkeyDust:  Its a usb sound card from ebay $2  it produces sound but when I run alsamixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[11:27] <tanath> arovij, if not, i'm sure i'd be easier/better to modify elinks than firefox
[11:27] <codingenesis> tanath: Thanks friend for your help !! :)
[11:27] <tanath> codingenesis, np
[11:27] <rileyp> It only works in mythtv and it sounds terrible
[11:27] <arovij> tanath : definately .. I had severe hair loss going thru firefox code
[11:27] <tanath> ;)
[11:28] <rileyp> I'll pastebin aplay -l and some other info Hang on
[11:28] <rileyp>  [AUDIO          ]: USB-Audio - USB  AUDIO
[11:29] <rileyp> USB  AUDIO at usb-0000:00:12.0-3, full speed
[11:29] <Mjuksel> im off for a break guys
[11:29] <Mjuksel> cyua
[11:32] <Pokemon> quit
[11:39] <rileyp> http://pastebin.com/5iCUAZ8v  my usb soundcard
[11:39] <rileyp> can someone help me get alsamixer working with it
[11:39] <rileyp> and make it default
[11:40] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, Ubuntu?
[11:40] <rileyp> oh yeah 10.04
[11:40] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  10.04
[11:41] <nephx> Hi! Just installed ubuntu, must say, epic cheesy interface... Any way I can get rid of all this and just have plain old gnome?
[11:41] <YankDownUnder> nephx, Yes...there is...
[11:41] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  Mythbuntu
[11:41] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, wrong channel, rileyp - this is Ubuntu support
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> nephx, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-common-gnome-3-issues-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html
[11:42] <RevSpecies116> Myth runs on XFCE4
[11:42] <Stormshadow> hi all
[11:42] <osse> nephx, at login there is a button somewhere that let's you choose a session. From there you can choose regular Gnome
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> You can make Gnome3 act/look basically like Gnome2
[11:42] <geeme> Hi there. Can anyone recommend a way to stream a usb webcam attached locally by USB to a 10.10 server to a webpage. Looking to then "connect"it up to Zoneminder VM to monitor along with other network cameras
[11:43] <nephx> This unity thing is horribly laggy... Totally new laptop with i5 can't handle the launcher... Pathetic
[11:43] <geeme> I have used "motion" but find it is unreliable. Considering using VLC.
[11:43] <Stormshadow> Im trying to understand locale stuff :: how can i add a locale such that its listed when i execute locale -a?
[11:46] <nephx> omg this is horrible
[11:46] <AbTux> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 11.04 , is it possible online or using a DVD?
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> nephx, Mate, get rid of it completely, move to Gnome3, tweak it out to be "normal" like Gnome2, and Bob's yer uncle.
[11:47] <RevSpecies116> Nephx, at the login screen, choose Ubuntu Classic as the 'session' - Unity will not be there
[11:47] <nephx> Btw, wth is libre office?
[11:48] <mervaka> openoffice
[11:48] <mervaka> but forked
[11:48] <RevSpecies116> rileyp: try #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:48] <rpisharody> Yeah and it is actively developed
[11:48] <RevSpecies116> nephx, have you logged out yet to get back to a non-unity desktop?
[11:49] <nephx> RevSpecies116, of course
[11:49] <nephx> that thing was totally unusable
[11:49] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, good :)
[11:49] <AbTux> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 11.04 , is it possible online or using a DVD?
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> AbTux: yes
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> But not directly, AbTux
[11:50] <AbTux> RevSpecies116: what you mean by not directly?
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> You need to update through 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, to 11.04
[11:51] <RevSpecies116> That is the only [not even supported] way to upgrade to 11.04
[11:51] <Salvador_> hi
[11:51] <Salvador_> ls
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> !eol > AbTux
[11:53] <ricree> From time to time, using right+left mouse buttons at the same time to generate a middle click seems to stop working.  Resetting the computer fixes this, but I'd prefer a solution that doesn't require resets
[11:55] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  ubuntu and mythbuntu no driver differnces only gui I want to make a usb sound card work
[11:55] <Jim1> Hello. I hope someone might be able to give an opinion. I have a box I use for torrent, surfing and word processing. I need to put in a new 2Tb HDD. Must be quiet and use little power and be reliable. Am thinking about the WD20EARX. Any experience with this? I will also be installing 11.04 - upgrading from 10.04.
[11:56] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  I know I have xfce4 thats fine my problem will not be resolved in the fn gui
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> ricree, If there's nothing in: System--.Pregerences--> Mouse that corrects the problem, perhaps there's an updated mouse-driver you could use?
[11:57] <rileyp> http://pastebin.com/5iCUAZ8v
[11:57] <rileyp> someone please
[11:57] <rileyp> alsamixer no worky i want to make my sound card default
[11:57] <rileyp>  and resolve issues
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> rileyp: try #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:58] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  no one on that channel
[11:58] <CheckMate7> Ubuntu is taking all the 80 GBz , how can I let it take only 40 ?
[11:58] <rileyp> and no differnce only gui differnce
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> I doubt anyone here can help with a Mythbuntu issue, rileyp
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> There is unfortunately a HUGE difference
[11:59] <ricree> Sidewinder1, there isn't an option there, though I'm a little hesitant to start installing new drivers.
[11:59] <rileyp> Its not a gui issue its a termanil issue and I use ubuntu and thi sis ubuntu channel and I have same Kernel
[11:59] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  I just installd alsa o.24
[11:59] <rileyp> lets rool
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> ricree, I know what you're sayin', but it's the only selection I am aware of... :-(
[12:00] <rileyp> Kets roll
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, that is factually incorrect
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> OK, rileyp do this: top panel
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> Goto System->Preferences->sound
[12:00] <rileyp> alsa 0.24  It a gui I dont want to work in gui
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> OK, rileyp do this: top panel
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> Goto System->Preferences->sound
[12:00] <txomon_> does anyone know how to upgrade NetworkManager?
[12:00] <rileyp> terminal is sweet
[12:01] <RevSpecies116> certainly not, rileyp
[12:02] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  yes it is once you learn you never forget
[12:02] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, since we cannot troubleshoot a Mythbuntu issue in this channel, I can only suggest you visit #ubuntu-mythtv
[12:03] <Linux4UnMe> clear
[12:04] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see output from df -h, if there is more then 50% space free still, then use a live cd with gparted to resize, don't forget to alter fstab/grub
[12:05] <RevSpecies116> CheckMate7: Ubuntu in 80GB? Holy Moly
[12:05] <CheckMate7> Yeah :(
[12:05] <user001> anyone have any idea what a PCI bus error: too many interrupts means? Getting this on a Ubuntu Server 11.04 installation
[12:05] <RevSpecies116> My Ubuntu 10.04LTS takes up 8.7GB
[12:06] <ricree> Sidewinder1:  Found a solution, in case you were wondering.  There's an option for emulation in gpointing-device-settings.  Still not sure why it got deactivated, but I was able to get it working again.
[12:06] <siton> Arch takes up 3GB......
[12:06] <mac_> why my firefox is not working
[12:06] <koshie> Hi
[12:06] <Pokemon> guess
[12:06] <koshie> mac_, version ? error message ?
[12:06] <DasEi> CheckMate7: you select at install time, how space it takes, a fully eqipped one may take around 20 though
[12:06] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, I see, CheckMate7 it's a gparted issue
[12:07] <DasEi> how much *
[12:07] <koshie> What do you call «not working» ?
[12:07] <siton> delete your config file for ff
[12:07] <RevSpecies116> Not that ubuntu is really taking it all, you just want the partition to take 40GB not 80GB
[12:07] <CheckMate7> now I have used 22 out of 80
[12:07] <siton> the restart your ff, it will be ok
[12:07] <RevSpecies116> What you plan on formatting the remaing 40GB as?
[12:07] <CheckMate7> there is more than 50% space
[12:07] <DasEi> CheckMate7: rather normal, as you need space for downloads n stuff, too
[12:07] <CheckMate7> having BT5
[12:08] <DasEi> CheckMate7: so can go way schown above or use a vm
[12:08] <CheckMate7> I just want to make Ubuntu with 40 and I believe that's enough for Ubuntu
[12:08] <Salih-k> Hello everyone, i have question about installation ubuntu 11.04. I download the 32 bit version of 11.04 and start to install it but at the end of the installation there was a configuring phase and asked me that if i want to transfer files from windows and i said yes accidently than i waited for a long time and shutdown without waiting to finish the process. And start to install again but this time it did'nt ask me that question and stat to transfer files. What
[12:08] <Salih-k> do to skip this step ?
[12:08] <xokvictor> кто может помочь? не запускается браузер хром (11.04)
[12:08] <rpisharody> CheckMate7 : Ubuntu in 40 is good :)
[12:09] <CheckMate7> Yeah , exactly
[12:09] <CheckMate7> now it's on 80 , how can I make it on 40 ?
[12:09] <nephx> xokvictor, this isn't the russian support channel, please use one, or proceed in english
[12:09] <RevSpecies116> rpisharody: indeed - my 40GB HDD has headps to spare :)
[12:09] <DasEi> !ru | xokvictor
[12:09] <rpisharody> Use GParted. Resize the partition.. But from a Live CD
[12:09] <xokvictor> sorry
[12:10] <CheckMate7> Can't I do that with a USB stick ?
[12:10] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see above, I'll  repeat :
[12:10] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see output from df -h, if there is more then 50% space free still, then use a live cd with gparted to resize, don't forget to alter fstab/grub
[12:10] <DasEi> usb is fine, too
[12:10] <xokvictor> who can help me? why chromium browser not launched?
[12:10] <rpisharody> livecd or usb stick. Doesn't matter
[12:10] <yeastwars> aaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhh why is ubuntu using my wifi led as a network activity led? It blinks for every packet received. How can I disable this horrible, idiotic feature?
[12:10] <yeastwars> and whose terrible idea was this?
[12:10] <DasEi> xokvictor: start chromium from teminal and report output
[12:10] <CheckMate7> but here is the problem : it stuck on keyboard layout :(
[12:10] <rpisharody> yeastwars : Isn't it a fun feature ? Whoa !
[12:10] <xokvictor> one moment
[12:11] <yeastwars> rpisharody: it's awesome!
[12:11] <yeastwars> I LOVE IT
[12:11] <yeastwars> I can know when I receive a packet! How cool!
[12:11] <DasEi> CheckMate7: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[12:11]  * yeastwars reaches for the black tape
[12:11] <DasEi> :)
[12:11] <CheckMate7> I did that and Can't get it done :(
[12:11] <xokvictor> DasEi: chromium-browser
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680633:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(442)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680676:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680700:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680708:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(264)] Failed to create /home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680721:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(442)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680730:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680741:ERROR:browser_main.cc(1403)] Failed to create a ProcessSingleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
[12:11] <DasEi> !paste | xokvictor
[12:12] <RevSpecies116> WHOOSH
[12:12] <przemek_> hi everybody. I'm having some trouble whith nfs client. On the client I cant set ownership of the files on nfs share. Is there a way to do this?
[12:12] <RevSpecies116> !nfs
[12:12] <DasEi> xokvictor: apparently your permissions are borked, so try reinstalling chrome as regular user
[12:13] <xokvictor> DasEi: already
[12:14] <DasEi> xokvictor: you are not working from a rootaccount now ?
[12:14] <mac_> help me my firefox is not working
[12:15] <LoganCloud> !doesn't work | mac_
[12:16] <acperkins> is there a way of "helping" Banshee to recognise a CD? so far it has only found track names for 2/10 of my CDs.
[12:18] <gn> #zid.at
[12:18] <DasEi> xokvictor: do other browsers work ?
[12:18] <jahman_> one wate man ocean wem im dey
[12:18] <DirtyDawg> english pls
[12:18] <jahman_> ssh ubunt
[12:19] <Salih-k> Guys i am installing ubuntu 11.04 now. At the and of the installation it asked that if i want to transfer files from windows but i stupidly say yes. Now can't take it back that option i am using usb stick how can i make it forgot that choice and start to clean insrallation again ?
[12:20] <asmodeus> hi...what do i have to do so that I don't have to run 'compiz --replace' to get the 3d effects every time i log in?
[12:20] <LoganCloud> !pm | mac_
[12:21] <Salih-k> Any opinion ?
[12:21] <_Lucifer> asmodeus: you could probably add the command to a startup script
[12:21] <DasEi> asmodeus: to /etc/rc.local, precisly
[12:22] <DirtyDawg> i warn you against listening to _Lucifer : you're mortal soul is at risk
[12:22] <asmodeus> DasEi, _Lucifer doesn't rc.local get run well before X and compiz are running?
[12:22] <_Lucifer> DirtyDawg: how do you figure?
[12:23] <DasEi> asmodeus: no, it's the last after upstart finished
[12:23] <_Lucifer> asmodeus: I'm not sure. only startup script I actually have experience with is the autostart.sh for openbox
[12:23] <ronr_> how can I check if I have a 64bit or 32 bit os (ubuntu server, cli only)?
[12:24] <kodapa> ronr_: uname -a
[12:24] <rpisharody> uname -a will do
[12:24] <rpisharody> If its 32Bit, there should be a mention of i686
[12:24] <ronr_> great, thank you both :)
[12:25] <ronr_> yeah, it's 64 bit, so that's great.
[12:25] <ronr_> laters!
[12:25] <RevSpecies116> asmodeus: try the command: 'compiz --replace &'
[12:26] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: initial question was to automate this at startup
[12:26] <sorush20> is there a program out there that allows time and date stamp change?
[12:26] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: Not sure about my installation of Ubuntu 10.04LTS, then - as I've only ever typed it in once and compiz stayed around even on the next restart
[12:27] <przemek_> hi everybody. I'm having some trouble whith nfs shares. On a client I cant set ownership of the files on nfs share. Is there a way to do this?
[12:27] <RevSpecies116> And then when I do metacity --replace &, metacity stays around
[12:27] <asmodeus> RevSpecies116, _Lucifer, DasEi thanks, off to tinker...
[12:27] <DasEi> asmodeus: have you read RevSpecies116 ^ ?
[12:28] <DasEi> ah, fine
[12:28] <iamviveksri> help
[12:28] <Maimster> Morning all.
[12:28] <DasEi> !ask | iamviveksri
[12:28] <rpisharody> Personal Opinion: I dislike Compiz for all its flashiness :)
[12:28] <iamviveksri> i have a netbook wish to install ubuntu
[12:28] <DasEi> rpisharody: gnomy here, too, even 3 is fine in vm so far
[12:29] <_sara--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615292/ does anyone get this error when going to gmail?
[12:29] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: you have access to an external CD drive? or USB Flash stick?
[12:29] <iamviveksri> 11.04 version just gives a blank sceen with syslinux written
[12:30] <cabina> hi
[12:30] <Maimster> sara: Nope
[12:30] <iamviveksri> @rev sir i have usb
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, I don't.
[12:30] <RevSpecies116> And it looks like you already have the USB stick ready to install 11.04
[12:31] <iamviveksri> yes
[12:31] <iamviveksri> it did not install
[12:31] <RevSpecies116> I'm not sure what you mean by the syslinux part though
[12:31] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh
[12:31] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Can you type out the exact Error message you get when you boot from the USB ?
[12:31] <_sara--> Sidewinder1:  if someone is trying to maninthe middle me what to do?
[12:32] <DasEi> hangs at install, so faulty usb
[12:32] <iamviveksri> when the laptop booted from usb, a screen came with just one line written --something about syslinux
[12:32] <cabina> I'm a first time user of irc and I need a bit of help but i don't want to mess your discussion
[12:32] <RevSpecies116> BUT if it is a long message, iamviveksri - pastebin is a better option otherwise the automated bots may kick you out
[12:32] <iamviveksri> i cant type out full line just now--will have to reboot
[12:32] <DasEi> cabina: pm me, or I'll do better
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, I don't really know; it may be a gmail cookies issue?
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> is it a laptop or a netbook?
[12:33] <_sara--> Sidewinder1:  its on evolution mail client
[12:33] <iamviveksri> @rev i think laptop
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> 15"+ screen?
[12:34] <iamviveksri> around 15" screen
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, Then I have no clue; I've never used evolution. :-(
[12:34] <mac_> help me
[12:34] <RevSpecies116> Laptop, then - okies, iamviveksri, it could be an error on the USB stick
[12:34] <_sara--> mac_: there is saviour in all of us... lol dont ask to ask just ask
[12:34] <RevSpecies116> and not your laptop
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> You could try making the USB stick again
[12:35] <angle> help me firefox is not working
[12:35] <iamviveksri> my usb stick is ok--- i use it daily sir
[12:35] <rpisharody> What about the image you used on the USB Drive ?
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> Not a physical error, iamviveksri, but a copy error
[12:35] <iamviveksri> yes i tried for 10.4 version tht didnt load thru usb
[12:35] <sakethome> Hi, whenever there is a kernel update my computer does not load into graphics mode and loads into only command prompt. I've a nvidia GeForce graphics card
[12:36] <iamviveksri> i am currently downloading 10.10 version
[12:36] <sakethome> I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[12:36] <iamviveksri> @rev i used the usb creator in 11.4
[12:36] <Pokemon> iamviveksri, i had the problem ever
[12:36] <RevSpecies116> Lenovo laptop this end, and 10.04LTS
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> Okies, was that via CD to make the USB?
[12:37] <iamviveksri> @rev so will i be able to load 10.10 from usb please
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> yep, iamviveksri - that is doable
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> But 10.10 wont be around for too much longer
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> A personal reccomendation is use 10.04 [failed] or 11.04
[12:38] <iamviveksri> @rev  will it not upgrade itself if i can load it
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> but that is ONLY a personal recommendation - you can use whichever you wish - and still install from USB :)
[12:38] <DasEi> Is someone experienced with xmonad to help cabina ?
[12:38] <fellipe> hi friends. I've update my ubuntu desktop from 10.10 to 11.04 trough package manager. but the progress bar in totem is disallowed. any  idea?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> angle, The only thing I can think of is for you to search for and find your bookmark file (bookmarks.htm?) copy it to another directory; then using Synaptic Package Mgr., completely remove Firefox, then reinstall it.
[12:39] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: what OS you currently using?
[12:39] <iamviveksri> @rev i already have 10.4 and 11.4 but dont know what i am doing wrong to load it---dunno what is via cd
[12:39] <Intelza> hello Hi everyone I asked about the problem the video card is Intel's graphics, I Usage. A model that is called the Mobile Intel 965 drivers from having problems in Ubuntu. It is not for this. Now very worried because the job requires a 3D program, but no driver. The program can be opened, but very slow. It does not include graphics. Is there but no driver. If someone had told me they brought me a lot I want.
[12:39] <iamviveksri> @rev current os is win 7
[12:39] <iamviveksri> 32
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> So, to confirm, you downloaded the ubuntu .iso files
[12:40] <rpisharody> Viver: Try using UNetBootin to create a bootable USB
[12:40] <DasEi> cabina: what exactly is it you want to do with X ? tile the workspace in say four similar ones ?
[12:40] <CheckMate7> Choosing the create button will IMMEDIATELY  EARS ALL DATA on disk/sda ??? what to do without erasing DATA  ??
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> and used a windows based programme to make the USB sticks?
[12:40] <iamviveksri> @rev confirm
[12:40] <cabina> I need the xmonad to make 1 screen out of 8 heads
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> And what was that windows USB maker programme called?
[12:40] <iamviveksri> @rev i used the usb program in ubuntu iso
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: create what, exactly?
[12:40] <kevin_> hello .3
[12:40] <kevin_> :3
[12:41] <DasEi> cabina: ic, can't help there
[12:41] <CheckMate7> partion table
[12:41] <cabina> dasei i'll send you another pm
[12:41] <CheckMate7> I wanna divide the 80 to 40/40
[12:41] <CheckMate7> without losing DATA
[12:41] <rumpe1> sakethome, how did you install the nvidia driver?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: you can choose 'something else'
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: because I don't use windows, I don't know exactly what the programme you used is
[12:41] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: I'm not familiar with the USB Program in Ubuntu ISO. But as I said, UNetBotin is what I've used to do what you are trying
[12:41] <Pokemon> it's easy
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> !dualboot | CheckMate7
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> What is it called from the Ubuntu .iso?
[12:42] <sakethome> @rumpel i downloaded the driver from the website and installed it
[12:42] <iamviveksri> @ rev, rpi i am now downloading unetbootin
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: great :)
[12:42] <CheckMate7> Yup . That might be useful :)
[12:42] <Vustom> On my other PC I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and it was working just fine but when I restarted the PC and logged in, I only got a black screen with the mouse.. I can't do anything and I can't open a terminal..
[12:43] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Get converted to GNU?Linux soon :)
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> CheckMate7, If you're going to shrink an NTFS partition, don't forget to defrag it at least twice, prior to shrinking.
[12:43] <iamviveksri> @rev its called usb-creator in ubuntu 11.4 iso
[12:43] <fellipe> hi friends. I've update my ubuntu desktop from 10.10 to 11.04 trough package manager. but the progress bar in totem is disallowed. any  idea?
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, thanks for that, iamviveksri - i'LL REMEMBER THAT FOR NEXT TIME THIS QUERY COMES UP
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Vustom: do you have more than one pc in the same network? if yes, type ssh -Y user@ip "gnome-panel& metacity&"
[12:44] <iamviveksri> @rev but it has not worked
[12:44] <sakethome> @rumpel downloaded the driver from the nvidia website. I've a sony viao laptop and it works well but after every kernel update the grub shows me the new kernel and when i choose the new kernel it loads into commad prompt
[12:44] <RevSpecies116> Sorry, caps came on
[12:44] <CheckMate7> This is what I'm talking about , I just want to shrink my Ubuntu Partition from 80 to 40 without losing data
[12:44] <CheckMate7> not a dualboot
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> that is not possible, CheckMate7
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> CheckMate7: doable with gparted LiveCD
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> !pm > angle
[12:45] <iamviveksri> @rev so shud i try unetbootin and revert
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> MonkeyDust: Are you sure?
[12:45] <rpisharody> CheckMate7: What RevSpecies1 said is right. I've done it
[12:45] <Vustom> MonkeyDust No, at the moment I'm on the same PC just on the live CD at the moment..
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: definatly try the unetbootin method
[12:45] <CheckMate7> I did gparted with USB stick and it says access denied :)
[12:45] <DasEi> MonkeyDust: would bee if root (and maybe swap) is at the end or beginning
[12:45] <DasEi> be*
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: my friend's advice is better than mine :)
[12:46] <iamviveksri> @rev and rpi ---thanks for talking to me and your kind support
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: No troubles, I just hope it works :)
[12:47] <Vustom> MonkeyDust Is it safe to delete stuff in the /tmp folder?
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> Do come back and tell us if it works or not
[12:47] <rpisharody> ChackMate7: You sure that the root partition is not mounted ?
[12:47] <Intelza> hello Hi everyone I asked about the problem the video card is Intel's graphics, I Usage. A model that is called the Mobile Intel 965 drivers from having problems in Ubuntu. It is not for this. Now very worried because the job requires a 3D program, but no driver. The program can be opened, but very slow. It does not include graphics. Is there but no driver. If someone had told me they brought me a lot I want.
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> Then, as 'payment' stick around sometime in the future, and help other users in this channel :)
[12:48] <iamviveksri> @rev sure rev--however i am not as knowledgeable as u both
[12:48] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Doesn't matter. But your commitment matters
[12:48] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: you soon will be :) - but you don't have to help straight away ;)
[12:48] <iamviveksri> @rpi -committed
[12:49] <iamviveksri> @signing off thanks again
[12:50] <RevSpecies116> Bye, iamviveksri :) Till next time
[12:52] <RevSpecies116> Was about to help Intelza, but he/she is not here anymore :(
[12:52] <nep1x> hey buddies! What character do you use to overcome the blank space in the terminal, I mean imagine that you want to copy a file called "CV ENG" in the same directory. It doesn t work and I think is because of the blank space between the two words
[12:52] <nep1x> it understand that the file to copy is CV and the directory ENG
[12:52] <SwedeMike> nep1x: CV\ ENG
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> nep1x: try a simple backslash
[12:53] <nep1x> ok! thanks
[12:54] <mithridates> "Built-in virus protection" What does that mean?
[12:54] <mithridates> I saw it in the ubuntu website
[12:55] <mithridates> are they talking about SElinux?
[12:55] <LjL> mithridates: marketing nonsense, methinks
[12:55] <mithridates> oh gochya for windows users
[12:55] <Salih-k> Hello guys, i installed ubuntu 11.04 but i cannot start the wifi it doesn't see the wifi connections but it can see when i start the ubuntu on live cd.
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> !virus | mithridates
[12:55] <DebJunkie> how do I remove a ppa repository, which ppa-purge can't seem to find?
[12:55] <LjL> mithridates: there are very few Linux viruses and even fewer in the wild, but that doesn't mean Ubuntu has any particular protection built-in
[12:56] <ballzoffury> #reddit
[12:56] <mithridates> Sidewinder1: yeah I know that, but it was in ubuntu website
[12:56] <DasEi> !register > cabina
[12:56] <bazhang> DebJunkie, check the sources.list
[12:56] <DebJunkie> it isn't in there
[12:56] <pujo> hi nice to know u ?
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> bazhang: was faster :)
[12:56] <DebJunkie> that's the problem
[12:56] <mithridates> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[12:56] <bazhang> DebJunkie, check sources.list.d then
[12:57] <bazhang> pujo, ubuntu support question?
[12:57] <DebJunkie> hold on while I check
[12:57] <LjL> mithridates: i believe you it says that, i'm just saying that in my opinion, that's just marketing nonsense
[12:57] <dr3mro> hey , I have ubuntu 11.04 and it works gr8 but at some points it just freezes and i have to do hard reset .. tried to disable vsync and no use it just keep happening .. using Fujitsu Siemens Amilo PI 1505 ..
[12:57] <phaidros> where to configure autologin into the terminal on  boot? as we dont have inittab anymore, I wonder how is that done nowadays :)
[12:57] <DebJunkie> bazhang: fixed
[12:57] <phaidros> any hints?
[12:57] <DebJunkie> tq
[12:58] <DasEi> phaidros: unity or gnome ?
[12:59] <phaidros> DasEi: Terminal, no X
[12:59] <phaidros> Console so to say :)
[13:00] <phaidros> inittab got replaced by upstart, right?
[13:00] <virhilo> san anybody check this after lasters update? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/790624 ?:)
[13:00] <virhilo> s/lasters/lastest
[13:01] <kflottorp> Is there a way to create separate development environments in linux in general? I want to easily be able to switch between different setups, kinda like virtual environments in python. I don't want to use chroot because it changes too much.
[13:02] <phaidros> kflottorp: not natively, build jails and chroot into there
[13:03] <kflottorp> phaidros: what does jails do? never heard of it before :(
[13:03] <phaidros> any hint how to automaticly login to the terminal/console?
[13:03] <phaidros> kflottorp: a jail is an envirnment where you chroot into, with all the stuff you need. because a chroot is a closed env. so find $tool which suites you best, to build your jails
[13:03] <starZ> autoboot: try tuning your xorg.conf or your gdm conf file..
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> phaidros: put gnome-terminal in the startup applications list
[13:04] <phaidros> starZ: xorg.conf and gdm are X-related, as I told you before. there is no X on my system ;)
[13:04] <phaidros> MonkeyDust: Console, just plain Console, no X :)
[13:04] <jazzanova> hi
[13:04] <jazzanova> hi
[13:04] <jazzanova> wow..
[13:04] <phaidros> wow
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> wow
[13:04] <starZ> sorry no clue..
[13:05] <phaidros> np, thx anyways
[13:05] <jazzanova> i couldn't post in teh beginning, said "cant' send to channel"
[13:05] <jazzanova> anyways, i why I came here
[13:05] <jazzanova> I made a site to donate to debian packages: http://www.online-tipjar.com
[13:05] <jpablobr> Hi, newbie question... can I restrict write access to a file for a user that belong to a group which grants write access to that file?
[13:05] <kflottorp> phaidros: thanks. I'll look into it
[13:05] <phaidros> anyone a clue how inittab was replaced and what does its' job lately?
[13:05] <bazhang> jazzanova, no adverts please
[13:06] <Pici> !upstart | phaidros
[13:06] <newc> hello
[13:06] <phaidros> kflottorp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot .. thats a beginning, there are tools out there to create jails easier ..
[13:07] <phaidros> Pici: upstart doesnt talk about auto-spawning a login .. any hints there?
[13:07] <newc> don't know anybody is listening?
[13:07] <DasEi> phaidros: sorry, was distracted in another tab, got your answer ?
[13:07] <bazhang> newc, ubuntu support question?
[13:07] <newc> jes
[13:07] <newc> thanks
[13:07] <phaidros> DasEi: nope, still need a way to log into the console after boot, no X on the machine though
[13:07] <newc> i'm using a bit old machine
[13:07] <daedaluz> the best podcast program? one that doesn't ignore already downloaded episodes like rhythmbox does
[13:08] <newc> and got to 11.04 version update
[13:08] <DasEi> phaidros: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf , there you can change the bools of autologin
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:08] <bazhang> newc, on a single line, please
[13:08] <newc> ok
[13:08] <phaidros> DasEi: then again, there is no X on that machine, hence no gdm. I need to login to the first Console
[13:08] <kflottorp> phaidros: thanks =)
[13:08] <phaidros> (Alt-F1)
[13:09] <newc> so my problem is that the new version (11.04) does not recognise any of network hardware in my system(compaq 6310)
[13:09] <starZ> phaidros: did you have look at this topic? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/auto-login-to-text-mode-261633/
[13:09] <newc> no
[13:10] <DasEi> phaidros: just look if it's there, or /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[13:10] <newc> will check out right now
[13:11] <phaidros> DasEi: GDM is responsible for login to X Servers, I have no X on my machine. hence GDM is useless here. this issue was formerly handled by /etc/inittab, which is not existing anymore on ubuntu, it got replaced by upstart.
[13:11] <phaidros> the docs even talk about /etc/event.d but even that is not on my default 11.04 install
[13:11] <phaidros> should it be? is that the place?
[13:12] <phaidros> starZ: thanx, but exaclty that is the problem, /etc/inittab got removed from ubuntu, all docs about console autologin talk about /etc/inittab, so I came here to learn :)
[13:12] <Pici> phaidros: The conf files that control what things are started by upstart and when are located in /etc/init/
[13:12] <phaidros> Pici: thx
[13:12] <milossh> hello. how many gigs of ram can 11.04 32 bit recognize and operate?
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> Newc: please confirm - Ubuntu pre-11.04 was working perfectly on your computer, and now the update to 11.04 had made your network capabilities vanish?
[13:12] <phaidros> milossh: usually 3, with a PAE kernel (should be -server branch) could be 4GB
[13:13] <nep1x> Hi, newbie question... can I restrict write access to a file for a user that belong to a group which grants write access to that file?
[13:13] <eipi-1> hi, i often have disconnects on some campus-WLAN. dmesg says: deauthenticating from *** by local choice (reason=3) i can not reconnect until reloading iwlagn modul
[13:13] <phaidros> nep1x: you want to read up about ACLs
[13:13] <DasEi> phaidros: sudo apt-get install mingetty
[13:14] <phaidros> nep1x: depending on your filesystem you can enable ACLs and configure them, what you wnat is not doable with standard unix permissions
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: yeah!
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> newc: please confirm - Ubuntu pre-11.04 was working perfectly on your computer, and now the update to 11.04 had made your network capabilities vanish?
[13:14] <DasEi> phaidros: sudo nano /etc/init/tty1.conf
[13:14] <daedaluz> recomend me a good podcast program, please. rhythmbox acts retarded.
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: yeah! thats it!
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: where did  you find this?
[13:14] <milossh> phaidros, thanks. I'll do that. 11.04 64bit sucks big time, enough for making me consider fedora
[13:14] <milossh> :(
[13:15] <DasEi> phaidros: /sbin/getty to   /sbin/mingetty --autologin UserNameHere tty1
[13:15] <DasEi> phaidros: upstart
[13:15] <phaidros> yeah
[13:15] <starZ> phaidros: w!! I'm not a fan of this plymouth related changes to..
[13:15]  * phaidros too blind or too busy .. thanx dude!
[13:15] <iamviveksri> @rev hello i am back
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Milossh, 11.04 64 bit here works very well, what issues do you have ?
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> hello iamviveksri :) Did it work, or same problem?
[13:16] <DasEi> phaidros: where would I be , if no one pushed me here and then , have fun
[13:16] <sartek_> Hey
[13:16] <phaidros> DasEi: lol
[13:16] <iamviveksri> @rev it worked awesome --11.4 did not install but 10.4 did
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> Great :)
[13:16] <Milossh> BluesKaj, first thing: alsa. driving me nuts. second one: from time to time, some buttons are not click-responsive, in whatever app I try it
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @rev but i didnt have any drivers for the system so could not log in internet
[13:17] <Milossh> also, software I was using for years is crashing: like vlc, firefox, skype
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @rev now i have to search for drivers through windows :(
[13:17] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, iamviveksri :(
[13:17] <eipi-1> tuk
[13:17] <Milossh> as for skype, I know, it's nowhere near good
[13:17] <RevSpecies116> Wifi or wired?
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @ rev at least i need the wifi
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Milossh, ok what about alsa ..describe pls
[13:18] <RevSpecies116> OKies, did you check if wired worked at all, or did it not detect your network at all?
[13:18] <Milossh> BluesKaj, my input and output are mixed
[13:18] <Milossh> and I can't solve it
[13:18] <Milossh> and I had a lot of problems making input work at all
[13:18] <iamviveksri> #rev i didnt have the wires for wired :)
[13:18] <Milossh> output is ok
[13:19] <Milossh> iamviveksri, try TAB key on keyboard, it should help you by autocompleting nick
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, anyway that you can, iamviveksri?
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> anyway that you can have access to an ethernet cable, iamviveksri ?
[13:19] <iamviveksri> @rev if i get these drivers should i put them on the usb stick and load from there itself?
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> Just for about 10 mins ;) ?
[13:19] <EricJ> So I'm having problems with LIRC under Natty. Two different conflicting kernel modules are loaded at boot time, and I've identified the bad one. Problem is, simply blacklisting it won't work, lsmod still shows it after bootup. Any ideas how to ban it forever? :]
[13:20] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: thanks Milossh
[13:20] <Milossh> yw
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: you can definetly try that USB driver method - but it will be more of a pain that what making Ubuntu work on USB was
[13:21] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: like guru nanak said---everyone has some pain in life :) but with your kind support i shall overcome
[13:21] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: will be back
[13:21] <Milossh> BluesKaj, meaning that input catches my output
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> :) okies, iamviveksri :)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Milossh, do you have pulseaudio still installed?
[13:21] <Milossh> BluesKaj, yeah
[13:22] <Milossh> I had it on 10.04 and 10.10 too, 32 bit, and it worked nice
[13:23] <AndroUser> .
[13:23] <ghost2> quit
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Milossh, pulseaudio is meant IMO, for highter end pci soundcards not integrated sound cards with fewer options , it mostly causes more problems than it solves for integreted , so you may want consider removing pulse audio .
[13:24] <Salih-k> Guys how can i activate wifi on ubuntu 11.04
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> I want to know whay pulse audio was implemented in Ubuntu is a 'shoddy' way - that it hasn't been integrated more closely to work better than OOS
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> or is that OSS
[13:25] <DasEi> !wireless | Salih-k
[13:25] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: different things
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: Salih-k has Ubuntu pre-11.04 on his computer working fine
[13:25] <Bagatelle> if I have a certian software installed via PPA I should uninstall it from synaptic, right?
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> And even the 11.04 liveCD gave him wifi
[13:25] <Bagatelle> certain
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> It's just that the installed 11.04 now does not
[13:26] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | Bagatelle
[13:26] <coz_> Bagatelle,  that would be the safest way yes
[13:26] <syntech> wish there was a way to unsubscribe from all the spam mail in the whole world.
[13:26] <syntech> lol
[13:26] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: alsa and oss are the drivers, pulseaudio is just a sound-proxy to enable multiple sources access to sound
[13:26] <coz_> Bagatelle,  also  there is a small utility named   y-ppa-manger,, not in the repostiory  but will not only search for ppa  according to the version of ubuntu you are running but also purge them as well
[13:27] <Bagatelle> but I want to keep the ppa, get rid of the synaptic, I just need to make sure that uninstalling from shynaptic wont alter my ppa installation
[13:27] <dz2> is it safe to install gnome in natty yet?
[13:27] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, DasEi - so Ubuntu used OSS+Pulse or ALSA+Pulse?
[13:27] <DasEi>  Salih-k: just read RevSpecies116, so can't gurantee for that being proper
[13:27] <coz_> dz2,   gnome3?   no
[13:27] <bazhang> dz2, you mean gnome3? no.
[13:27] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:yupp
[13:28] <syntech> btw, i love unity. :)
[13:28] <DasEi> or even either oss or alsa, and no pulse
[13:28] <syntech> this is my first time using Linux in 3 years...
[13:28] <coz_> dz2,   there something named  UGR  which is a ppa but it purges Unity and installs gnome3
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> And which is the default?
[13:28] <syntech> hi
[13:28] <dinamizador> buenas
[13:28] <dz2> can I install gnome 2 then?
[13:28] <dz2> eg 2.22
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> dz2, gnome2 is already standard in 11.04
[13:29] <bazhang> dz2, choose classic at login window
[13:29] <dz2> ok thanks
[13:29] <DasEi> coz_: dz2, I just added ppa, installed g3 and set loginmanager to classic, fine in vm so far
[13:31] <Bagatelle> who can help me with tor - i2p?
[13:32] <Salih-k> DasEi: exactly that is happen to me i only managed to actovate wifi on live cd but when i made clean installation it doesn't work. Before that i upgrade from 10.10 even it works fine but when did clean installation it doesn't activate wifi.
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Bagatelle: we're here to help, so shoot
[13:32] <bencc> installed a fresh ubuntu and after "apt-update && apt-get upgrader" getting in syslog "localhost CRON[9137]: Module is unknown"
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: salih-k's issue is puzzling even me
[13:33] <newc> yes i'm abit confused among so many lines of text,the 10.10 version has worked perfectli on my machine,as i had upgraded to version 11.04 first the wireless hardware go off and now the complete networking hardware
[13:33] <Bagatelle> I used both i2p and to without problems, that was before I had a ICEauthority problem that f*cked it all up, now I cannot use neither. I have been suggested, in the i2p channel, to install a PPA owned by KYTV, that allows me to connect to tor, but just partially: vidalia says Im connected, but the main page of tor says Im not. Every piece of tor installed in my machine is from that ppa
[13:33] <bazhang> Bagatelle, no cursing, including the *
[13:33] <DasEi>  Salih-k: so can you go wired on that  box ? else grab livecd, find the correct module to load by lsmod, and set it up manually
[13:34] <openshell> when i click on skype it appears shortly and then disappears as i am signing in
[13:34] <Bagatelle> ok, problem that accidentally .... it all up
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> Bagatelle: what is i2p and what is ICEauthority?
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> Bagatelle - you could say it Frelled it all up, if you like Farscape ;)
[13:35] <studiomonitor> k
[13:35] <Bagatelle> never heard that before rev
[13:35] <Maimster> RevSpecies116: Good show.
[13:35] <openshell> does finch mess up skype
[13:35] <Bagatelle> i2p is an overlay network
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> How the Hesmana are you ;)
[13:35] <openshell> need some help
[13:36] <syntech> omg facebook messages suck.
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> !ask | openshell
[13:36] <djazz> why does 11.04 screw up with multiple monitors?
[13:37] <openshell> ubottu then answer my question
[13:37] <syntech> because it not 11.04 for 2 monitors ?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> djazz: 'why' is a philosophical question, we can only help you with 'how'
[13:37] <syntech> lol
[13:37] <djazz> changing from a small monitor to a bigger: http://i.imgur.com/gMZwW.png and side by side: http://i.imgur.com/BNHmj.png
[13:37] <syntech> you've got strength jah!
[13:37] <KM0201> openshell: i don't know why finch would mess up skype.. i have pidgin and skype open all the time, no issues.
[13:38] <bazhang> syntech, thats not helpful
[13:38] <djazz> MonkeyDust, then, how do I fix it?
[13:38] <bazhang> syntech, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:38] <openshell> well after configuring my skype on finch, started getting issues
[13:39] <Pici> openshell: When did you configure it?
[13:39] <syntech> Bazhang, i wasn't inteding to be helpful!
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> OKies folks, question for you regarding wifi that is effecting at least two users in here [not me], and it was working pre-11.04, and even on the 11.04 LiveCD, but WiFi now nolonger works after 11.04 has been installed, what could it be?
[13:39] <syntech> atleast in that statement but okay
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> DasEi is heading in a direction I'd like to continue
[13:39] <bazhang> syntech, wrong channel. Please stop it.
[13:39] <syntech> i'm not doing anything?
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> How would they use lsmod to cure the problem, DasEi ?
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> openshell, issues=error messages? What exactly is going wrong?
[13:40] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:you look up the modul needed being loaded, so the os is aware of wlan0, then setup interfaces
[13:40] <Pici> openshell: There was a problem that began on May 26th regarding signing into skype.  You may want to try these steps in an attempt to resolve the issue: http://heartbeat.skype.com/2011/05/problems_signing_into_skype_an.html
[13:41] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:else it simly doesn't get find at all
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> Are there easy terminal commands thay could use? I've used Ubuntu since 6.06, but never had to venture into the realms of the lsmod command [lucky me?]
[13:42] <c4pt> can someone tell me how to point debootstrap for a powerpc install
[13:42] <c4pt> debootstrap --arch powerpc natty http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu doesnt seem to work
[13:43] <c4pt> *deboostrap --arch powerpc natty /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[13:43] <petrolman> Is that a feature that most of the programs cleans the memory at start time? E.g. I often mark text in a gnome terminal to copy into gedit. Each time I open gedit the marked text is not in memory any more.
[13:43] <Pici> c4pt: The powerpc packages are on http://ports.ubuntu.com/ , not http://archiev.ubuntu.com
[13:44] <Pici> c4pt: Especially not there if I spell it wrong. ;)
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> petrolman: keep the terminal open till you have finished the copy and paste
[13:44] <c4pt> Pici, thank you
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> As because you close the terminal, it thinks you have finished, and thus removes the 'stuff' from clipboard
[13:44] <petrolman> RevSpecies116, I never close terminals :)
[13:45] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, then I don't know why that would be, petrolman :)
[13:45] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod how?
[13:46] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod how?
[13:47] <petrolman> Marking text to get it into memory was one the best feature I noticed when migrating from windows to linux many years ago :)
[13:47] <c4pt> Pici, do you know how i can disable plymouth from starting?
[13:47] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod, how?
[13:47] <Pici> c4pt: No, sorry, I don;t.
[13:47] <phaidros> how do I reset the keyboard language in a console-only system?
[13:47] <pokrmessiah> anyone having trouble downloading the updated pam packages? I'm getting a 404 on all of them
[13:47] <DynamicFail> Is there a way to add something to the System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications via command line?
[13:47] <phaidros> anass: sudo a2enmod rewrite ?
[13:47] <seeks> Alright.  So, in 11.04... I removed the file manager launcher from the panel (wanted to replace it with Thunar)
[13:48] <pokrmessiah> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[13:48] <seeks> Unfortunately, my thunar install seems to be a bit buggy.  So how do I get the original back?
[13:48] <anass> phaidros: I did this but no effect!
[13:48] <phaidros> anass: restarted apache ?
[13:48] <seeks> I tried adding 'Home folder', but it doesn't track open windows.
[13:48] <OerHeks> PokeTehPenguin, you are affected with this bug too ? bug 790538
[13:48] <anass> phaidros: yes, I did!
[13:48] <systemww> Hey, anybody on 11.04 and can't fetch a few packages that just got updated recently?
[13:49] <phaidros> anass: does "sudo a2enmod" say something about rewrite ?
[13:49] <systemww> i'm getting 404s :-(
[13:49] <systemww> did apt-get update ofc
[13:49] <systemww> still 404
[13:49] <OerHeks> this is a bad bug, cron stopped working, so is auto update
[13:49] <phaidros> systemww: sudo apitude again
[13:49] <pokrmessiah> ah
[13:49] <pokrmessiah> thanks
[13:49] <seeks> sys, you might just wait a little while.  I had that problem with Mint, and it worked a few hours later.
[13:50] <anass> phaidros: e2enmod says: Module rewrite already enabled
[13:50] <RevSpecies116> c4pt: There may be a programme
[13:50] <OerHeks> restart cron solves this issue now, but you must be aware of that.
[13:50] <bazhang> systemww, switch mirrors in synaptic and try again
[13:50] <potatohead> how to open the wine directory browser?
[13:50] <c4pt> RevSpecies116, ?
[13:50] <phaidros> anass: then it is. how do you test?
[13:51] <phaidros> potatohead: winebrowser?
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> c4pt: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/super-boot-manager-eases-burg-grub-plymouth-tweaking-pains/
[13:51] <Pici> pokrmessiah: It looks like the package was removed, take a look at the most recent update here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+publishinghistory
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> re plymoth
[13:51] <anass> phaidros: I put a .htaccess with rewriteMod on, but no effect in this folder!
[13:51] <systemww> bah
[13:51] <rubul> huh
[13:51] <phaidros> anass: please trywith apache config file, maybe it is just your .htaccess which is not parsed
[13:51] <pokrmessiah> pici yeah I found the bug report about it. thanks
[13:52] <anass> phaidros: how?
[13:52] <c4pt> RevSpecies116, :( need to do it from command line in a chroot environment or my system might not boot (powerpc system)
[13:52] <phaidros> anass: write your config into your apache vhost file
[13:52] <anass> phaidros: I'll copy the same .htaccess statements to httpd.conf files, OK?
[13:52] <n1xNc0d3> hi, evolution is going in offline mode even i'm connected to internet. And "Work Online" is greyed out
[13:52] <OerHeks> Pici, this is a result of this pam update > bug 790538
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, sorry c4pt, can't help you with that one :(
[13:53] <phaidros> anass: however you prefer to configure your vhosts
[13:53] <Pici> OerHeks: Indeed. Of course I updated this morning before they removed the package :(
[13:53] <systemww> Well, I'm pulling from security.ubuntu.com mirror, pam updates; and they are 404ing, just apt-get updated. So anyways, hope somebody realized they messed up and fixes this issue for all the 11.04 users out there :)
[13:53] <anass> phaidros: I'm trying in my personal machine
[13:53] <OerHeks> Just restart cron solves it for now, else no auto updates, right ?
[13:53] <Pici> OerHeks, pokrmessiah: IRC traffic elsewhere tells me they're working on the fix right now.
[13:54] <phaidros> anass: however you configure your vhosts in your personal machine :)
[13:54] <anass> phaidros: I've just installed apache2 and don't know a lot about it.
[13:54] <petrolman> Is there still a death head cursor to kill a window? I ve interrupted a system check but the window seems to be in a busy loop and I cant find the pocess id of this.
[13:54] <phaidros> anass: check your apache config for the vhost
[13:55] <pokrmessiah> petrolman: alt-f2 > xkill
[13:55] <anass> phaidros: OK, I'll search more
[13:55] <phaidros> anass: yepp
[13:55] <bencc> I'm getting: "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main libpam0g amd64 1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2"
[13:55] <bencc> are the repositories down?
[13:55] <openshell> anass is a gross nick
[13:55] <pokrmessiah> the packages were pulled
[13:55] <phaidros> anass: start with a proper apache vhost conf, as soon as that works, go into detail with rewrite etc
[13:55] <systemww> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb
[13:55] <systemww> bencc: me too
[13:55] <systemww> somebody try to open that link i posted
[13:55] <Pici> bencc, systemww: The package was removed due to a regression.
[13:55] <systemww> and enjoy your 404s
[13:55] <systemww> :)
[13:55] <FloodBot1> systemww: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:56] <systemww> Pici: package manifests are not up to date then :(
[13:56] <anass> phaidros: OK, I'll
[13:56] <Pici> systemww: Yes, it was just done about 15 minutes ago.
[13:56] <jiohdi> I just got a security update notification and then when trying to upgrade 404 errors
[13:56] <anass> openshell: what?
[13:56] <systemww> matter of minutes then? :-D
[13:56] <Pici> jiohdi: The package was removed due to a regression.
[13:57] <jiohdi> pici then why tell us to update to it?
[13:57] <pokrmessiah> someone should put that in the channel topic
[13:57] <Pici> jiohdi: Because it was *just* removed.
[13:57] <bencc> Pici: so what do I do? I have a fresh server and trying "apt-get update && apt-get upgrader"
[13:57] <anass> openshell: that's my real name!
[13:57] <bencc> Pici: shouldn't it just work?
[13:57] <openshell> ok anass
[13:57] <systemww> bencc: could add --fix-missing to the upgrade cmd
[13:57] <Pici> bencc: Wait.
[13:57] <systemww> to ignore it
[13:58] <jiohdi> what does regression mean exactly?
[13:58] <bencc> Pici: wait?
[13:58] <Pici> jiohdi: https://launchpad.net/bugs/790538
[13:58] <petrolman> pokrmessiah, thanks, I get the cursor, and clicked it on the frame of the window but the windows still keeps busy. It says: collecting system data ...
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: it means to go back.In Linux it usually implies something which once was good, got worse with upgrades
[13:58] <Pici> bencc: Yes, it should be fixed today at some point.  I can't put an exact time on it, but I know the devs are actively working on it.
[13:58] <systemww> somebody jumped the gun here! :(
[13:59] <bencc> Pici: should it all work without apt-get upgrade?
[13:59] <bencc> Pici: regression bug is something that might happen. should apt-get deal with it?
[14:00] <salvatore> salve a tutti
[14:00] <Pici> bencc: You'll need to wait until they publish an updated package, theres nothing anyone can do in the meantime.
[14:00] <salvatore> !list
[14:01] <BluesKaj> !it | salvatore
[14:01] <petrolman> apt-get upgrade -> aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:02] <bencc> Pici: it doesn't make sense that apt can't deal with bug like that and revert to an old working package automatically
[14:03] <Pici> bencc: the package manifests say that the package should be available.
[14:03] <DynamicFail> Is there a way to add something to the System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications via command line?
[14:03] <bencc> Pici: maybe they did an emergency action that prevent apt from working
[14:03] <bencc> Pici: sounds like a very serious bug affecting many automatic cron jobs
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: you can symlink the .desktop from /usr/share/applications to ~/.config/autostart
[14:04] <auk> is ther any possibility of problems if i switch my uid to 500?
[14:04] <deneb> hi....once on a month i get possibly kernel panic...my computer freezes and the ony i can do is to push reset button....why that's happening?
[14:05] <Pici> auk: Not from well written software ;)
[14:06] <auk> Pici: you don't have any non-well-written software in mind do you?
[14:06] <auk> Pici, it's for compatability with fedora
[14:06] <systemww> Well, I hope this issue gets fixed, this is worse than debian devs introducing security holes while trying to get stuff more secure™ ☹; Good day #ubuntu! :)))
[14:06] <systemww> looking forward to the fix
[14:06] <Pici> systemww: Er...
[14:07] <Pici> auk: You shouldn't have any issues with package in the repositories.
[14:07] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, ~/.config/autostart doesn't exist on my system 10.04. Also the things I want to start are actually bash scripts. I just want to be able to write a bash script that is able to add a custom entry with associated command to be added to System -> Preference -> Startup Applications
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> deneb, I'm not familiar with the causes and cures of kernel panic; but you'll need to be more specific as to what programs were running, or was it one program, each month that caused the panic?...Etc..
[14:07] <osse> In gnome-terminal there is an option under Keyboard preferences to turn off menu access via the Alt key. But it doesn't have any effect. I'm on 11.04. Is there a way to get around it?
[14:07] <korsakof> Hi everyone! I'm trying to do something really simple but I think my brain needs another coffee to start properly: I want to grep 2 different lines from an output that contains two words. Why does this does not work? :: aptitude show x11-common x264 | grep -i 'Package|Version'
[14:07] <c4pt> anyone know how to disable plymouth in init.d ?
[14:08] <auk> Pici, ok thanks! and is it advisable to restart or at least log out/in after changing it?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: that thing just makes a .desktop for the script then puts it in there (to my knowledge), if you make the folder, it should work
[14:08] <osse> korsakof, use \|
[14:08] <Pici> auk: I'd definitely re-login.
[14:08] <deneb> Sidewinder1: i realy don't know even me :/ sometimes only firefox, some others watching a movie....it's so randomly
[14:08] <DeadmanIncJS> are the servers for Update Manager down?  I've tried both the main server and whatever the other setting was, and it's not downloading
[14:08] <DeadmanIncJS> keeps saying "failed to fetch files, check internet connection"
[14:08] <korsakof> osse: Nice! Thanks!
[14:09] <DasEi> c4pt: you can disable it in grub, else gotto modify initramfs
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> deneb, The "randomness" makes diagnosis almost impossible, :-(
[14:10] <DasEi> c4pt: edit /etc/default/grub as root, empty the splash setting to just "" remaining, safe, sudo update-grub
[14:10] <newc> so nobody is proposing a posible solution for not having recognised a network hardware in compaq 6310 by natty
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> deneb, There are various error logs that can be checked, but I'm not sure which ones, or where they're found; but it's a starting point.
[14:11] <DasEi> deneb: /var/log/sylog , kernlog .. look around there
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> I knew someone else would know! :-)
[14:11] <korsakof> osse: the escape character! shame on me! :) thanks again!
[14:11] <deneb> Sidewinder1: have you ever got a kernel panic? i mean...is that frequent?
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> deneb, Never...Side knocks wood.
[14:12] <auk> Pici: hmm actually it seems you can't change it while logged in so... do i need to elevate another account to sudo-privileges to do this?
[14:12] <c4pt> DasEi, im not using grub
[14:12] <DasEi> deneb: not really, either bad hardware(or exotics), mostly bad configuration, when did the last occur ?
[14:12] <c4pt> DasEi, should i just pass the "text" flag to kboot ?
[14:13] <DasEi> c4pt: idk kboot
[14:14] <sime> When http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/Archive-Update-in-Progress-syowa.canonical.com file exists, is possibly not the best time to do a do-release-upgrade ?
[14:14] <deneb> DasEi: yesterday was the last time... but i don't know where to look up for the issue...
[14:14] <DasEi> c4pt: their wiki :  kboot uses a boot loader like LILO or GRUB to load a regular Linux kernel as its first stage
[14:14] <osse> korsakof, you could use grep -p which uses perl-like syntax. but the manpage says it's experimental
[14:14] <c4pt> DasEi, yeah petitboot
[14:15] <DasEi> deneb: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[14:15] <DasEi> deneb:  pastebinit /var/log/kernlog
[14:16] <DasEi> deneb:  give resulting urls from terminal here
[14:16] <acnot> Hi there all in Ubuntu land.
[14:17] <ogzy>  i installed 10.04 (kubuntu) from alternate cd with disk encryption, when i try to add a network printer from the web, the step never comes to the driver selecgtion part always looping between Connection and then Name, description entrance, any idea?
[14:18] <acnot> Say how do I move the window title buttons from right to left on the Dust Sand theme?
[14:18] <Pici> !controls | acnot
[14:18] <PlaneMad> how do i change the default os in grub? using ubuntu11. the startup manager app doesnt work anymore
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: are you fully updated?
[14:18] <taowa> how do i get ann account for irc
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !regster | taowa
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !register
[14:18] <acnot> Pici I want them on the left
[14:19] <deneb> DasEi: i'm on fedora now...but even here i get kernel panic....do you interested to see the logs on fedora?
[14:19] <Pici> acnot: Oh. I see. One moment.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> acnot: just reverse the entry....
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> deneb: is the RAM healthy?
[14:20] <DasEi> deneb: makes too less sense
[14:20] <korsakof> osse: It comes a time in a man life where he needs to face the evidence: I need to learn perl! :)
[14:20] <DasEi> PlaneMad: you mean which entry get's picked ?
[14:20] <deneb> ActionParsnip: maybe i should make a ram check?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> deneb: makes sense to me :)
[14:21] <DasEi> deneb: yes
[14:21] <Pici> acnot: You'll need to play with the order of this: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close
[14:21] <osse> korsakof, haha, nah! But I do like that type of regex syntax, which is more or less the same as what Python and PHP uses.
[14:21] <acnot> Sorry ActionParsnip I don't know what you mean
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Pici: smoooth
[14:21] <deneb> ActionParsnip: from the live CD right?
[14:21] <acnot> Ar cool Pici thanks
[14:21] <DasEi> deneb: if no avail, try another kernel
[14:21] <acnot> !
[14:21] <Ste> Is there anyway i can get rid of these files that appear in my pictures and music files, which are thumbs.db, ehthumbs.db, and desktoi.ini?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> deneb: the installed OS has a RAM tester
[14:21] <deneb> ActionParsnip: nice...how i can do that test from here
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> deneb: hold shift at boot, select it
[14:22] <Pici> acnot: Just don't forget the closing double quote at the end like I did.
[14:22] <deneb> ActionParsnip: ok...thnx guys...i 'll check it
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Ste: if they are in a Windows OS partition, they will be regenrated when you next access the folder
[14:22] <DasEi> deneb: maybe ask in #fedora, as the basics might be similar, never will the detail be ?
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> deneb, I believe it's "memtest".
[14:22] <archuser2> hi everybody. Can I make USB loadable distro using something like sudo dd if=ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4096?
[14:23] <PlaneMad> DasEi: ubuntu is default. i want it switched to win7. i used the startup manager before to change this. but now although i have change the settings in the startup manager, the order at boot is the same
[14:23] <Ste> yeah its shared with windows 7. all my files are on a seperate partition
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: the ubuntu iso won't work like that, you need unetbootin or usb-creator
[14:23] <DasEi> archuser2: use unetbootin, dd only woks for some isos
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Ste: then they will be recreated next time you access the files
[14:23] <archuser2> hmm
[14:24] <Ste> can you niot hide them?
[14:24] <archuser2> is there a way to do it using some default shell commands instead of gui apps?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Ste: you prefix with a . in linux to hide, windows will just make another as the filename doesn't exist
[14:24] <DasEi> PlaneMad: /etc/defaulTgrub, there is a line saying default and then a number, that's the counter for grub's entries (though might change again after a kernel-update)
[14:24] <DasEi> /etc/default/grub
[14:25] <Cmpax> hello
[14:25] <MK``> Is it possible to add another panel when using Unity?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21303/create-usb-installer-from-the-command-line
[14:25] <archuser2> <3
[14:26] <archuser2> lol grub on usb :D
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: there is the 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux too
[14:26] <PlaneMad> DasEi: it says grub default=6, but where do i find the listing?
[14:26] <DasEi> archuser2: you can, but why ? unetbootin rruns fine , both linux and win
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: the default number in /etc/default/grub doesn't honour changes when new kernels are added
[14:28] <DasEi> PlaneMad:either at startup (left shift) or in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> PlaneMad: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[14:28] <archuser2> DasEi, oh come on, if you can do it without installing anything, why should I install it? I don't believe that I'll be using it every day.
[14:28] <DasEi> PlaneMad: saw ActionParsnip's comment above ? even better then
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> PlaneMad: the order is dictated by the number of the filename in grub.d
[14:29] <rileyp> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d9315fb5c5cf0dee78331192d7d83a52c69739cb  no default sound device
[14:29] <rileyp> alsamixer wont run
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> rileyp: use: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/   get lib, driver and utils to 1.0.23
[14:30] <DeadmanIncJS> i'll try this again...
[14:30] <Salih-k> DasEi: tanks for your attention i finally manage to access to wifi. The problem was that i couldnt make good installation.
[14:30] <PlaneMad> ActionParsnip: so i shall trust you that by running those commands nothing evil will happen to my system? i have a terrible history with ubuntu :)
[14:30] <DeadmanIncJS> why wouldn't I be able to download updates?  says fail to retrieve updates, check internet connection
[14:31] <taowa> how do i get a cloak
[14:31] <DasEi> !jay|Salih-k:
[14:31] <onetwo> DeadmanIncJS, firewall??
[14:31] <compdoc> cloak?
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> it's worked flawlessly
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[14:31] <DasEi> !yay|Salih-k:
[14:31] <taowa> how do i get a cloak
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> i use the program
[14:31] <onetwo> cloak like froda has in lotr??
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !cloak
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> i dont know linux commands
[14:31] <DasEi> compdoc: ask in #freenode
[14:31] <taowa> !cloak
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> taowa: or become a member
[14:31] <cdavis> I am getting a bunch of 404 errors on http://security.ubuntu.com, is anyone else getting these?
[14:32] <Pici> !pamerror | cdavis
[14:32]  * ActionParsnip wafts his members cloak :)
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> i can try the manual way if somebody gives me the commands :)
[14:32] <rileyp> Action ok Ill try thnaks
[14:32] <compdoc> DasEi, you got the wrong person
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: I gave the command already....
[14:32] <cdavis> Pici: Thank you
[14:32] <rileyp> ActionParsnip:  thanks Ill try
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> oh, i must've missed it
[14:32] <taowa> 1cloak
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> hang on
[14:32] <onetwo> someone knows why i cannot reach server.alteriw.net??from internet its available but from my line it worked for 2 days now the tracert stops somewhere in the middle
[14:32] <DasEi> compdoc: you asked about cloak, nor ?
[14:32] <compdoc> no
[14:32] <taowa> !cloak
[14:33] <DasEi> (03:32:30 PM) compdoc: cloak?
 how do i get a cloak  <compdoc> cloak?
[14:33] <DasEi> compdoc: ic, sorry
[14:33] <DeadmanIncJS> says the same thing
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: can you pastebin the text please
[14:34] <DasEi> taowa: join #freenode, they can help you there
[14:34] <onetwo> oh i see that the server is again available now on my side so forget my question :d
[14:34] <ichigo79> salve
[14:34] <DeadmanIncJS> haha, umm...
[14:34] <DeadmanIncJS> :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:35] <DeadmanIncJS> how?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[14:35] <DeadmanIncJS> ah
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: try asking what you need instead of nonesense and smileys, it moves things along faster
[14:36] <DeadmanIncJS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615343/
[14:37] <maiconlp> hello everyone,
[14:37] <Pici> !pamerror | DeadmanIncJS
[14:38] <maiconlp> I just solved ( about solve ) my problem with Display
[14:38] <DeadmanIncJS> ooh ok
[14:38] <DeadmanIncJS> that makes sense
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: seems to be dns related. I get archive.ubuntu.com resolving to 91.189.88.30
[14:39] <mikehh> hi, just tried to do an update (via update-manager) - failed with some pam modules
[14:39] <DeadmanIncJS> cool, not just me
[14:39] <Pici> !pamerror | mikehh
[14:39] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Please look at the factoid I just called as well.
[14:39] <maiconlp> so... when I reboot may notebook... the display  come back the old configuration 1024x788...
[14:39] <fist> hey, is the desktop-shortcut (SUPER+d) gone? using ubuntu 11.04, unity
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> fist: shouldn't be, you can re-enable it easily though
[14:40] <maiconlp> how I can save reach the same Display configuration ?
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> Pici, Even if you put the pamerror in the topic, most would miss it... :-(
[14:41] <Pici> Sidewinder1: Which is why I haven't :/
[14:41] <maiconlp> why when I reboot may notebook it lost the display configuration
[14:41] <maiconlp> ?
[14:41] <mikehh> ubottu: hmm, I updated already on Kubuntu 11.04 amd64, this was on Ubuntu 11.04 i386 - is this likely to cause any problems?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: what video chip?
[14:42] <maiconlp> a moment
[14:42] <fist> ActionParsnip: i can not find an option under "keyboard shortcuts".. where do you think i can re-enable it?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> fist: not sure dude, i use lxde these days. Let me websearch
[14:43] <Salih-k> I dont know Do you encounter same problem as i have, the upper menu is not fit is there anyway to align to the left. I mean that for example i opened pidgin and want to access its setting the menu on the upper toolbar when i put my pointer there i see buddies accounts  bla bla... But under that i see the writing pidgin also. I dont want to see it it should write only the pidgins menu. I dont know did i tell right.
[14:43] <Guest62386> any1 use btrfs system + incremental backup ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> fist: gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/show_desktop "<Super>d"
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[14:44] <maiconlp> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> fist: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1154697.html
[14:44] <gbjk> Hello. I've changed my monitor setup using nvidia-xsettings. I'm running Natty but with gnome2. Since then, my top panel no longer shows top left notification stuff (date time/ubuntu one/logout/etc). I've done a kill gnome-panel, but that hasn't helped.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: you could add a startup item to use xrandr to set the res
[14:45] <gbjk> (When the panel comes back, it's still missing.
[14:45] <gbjk> What should I try now?
[14:45] <maiconlp> what is xrandr ?
[14:45] <DynamicFail> is SUID == SETUID... I'm trying to remember how I changed the permissions of a bash script to run with sudo level privileges
[14:46] <wepete> Just ran an update for my 8.04 and was told that 3 pam updates failed to download due to a 404 Not Found [IP 91.189.92.166 80]  Has anyone else gotten this?
[14:46] <gbjk> DynamicFail: First bit of mode. 4 = suid, so prolly 4755 or something.
[14:46] <Pici> !pamerror | wepete
[14:46] <gbjk> maiconlp: x resize and rotate. man xrandr.
[14:47] <wepete> Thank you much ubottu!
[14:47] <Pici> wepete: anytime
[14:47] <fist> ActionParsnip: the command from the link does not work.. but there is something like a bind to show the desktop .. it just works different then before
[14:48] <superproxy> hey, what's this bind security update?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> fist: Open ccsm/general options/keybindings
[14:50] <fist> "hide all normal windows and set focus to the desktop" is bindet to super+d
[14:50] <gbjk> Hello. I've changed my monitor setup using nvidia-xsettings. I'm running Natty but with gnome2. Since then, my top panel no longer shows top left notification stuff (date time/ubuntu one/logout/etc). I've done a kill gnome-panel, but that hasn't helped, when the panel comes back, it's still missing. What should I try next?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> fist: set it to something, then set it back. May help
[14:50] <fist> but f.e. the windows in fullscreen-mode are not hidden
[14:50] <Pici> superproxy: See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.1  - also, you may want to consider installing apt-listchanges if you want to see changelogs before you install updates.
[14:50] <superproxy> Pici: tnx
[14:51] <fist> ActionParsnip: the command is right and the bind does work - but it just do not hide maximized windows :/
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> fist: possibly a bug...
[14:52] <Janusman> anyone else having issues updating natty today?
[14:53] <fist> y ActionParsnip thank you anyway!
[14:53] <Pici> !pamerror | Janusman
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> fist: np man, compiz can be a real pain
[14:53] <Janusman> Pici: thanks
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> fist: i don't use it these days, life is so much simpler
[14:55] <gbjk> :o|
[14:55] <gbjk> meh, I guess i'll just gconf reset
[14:57] <iamviveksri> hello
[14:57] <Janusman> Pici: I'm using update manager though, it insists I need some updates that won't download.
[14:58] <ranjan> iamviveksri, hi :)
[14:58] <Pici> Janusman: Its the same thing, and those updates will continue to be blocked until they are fixed, which should be sometime soon.
[14:58] <Janusman> Pici: ok. thanks =) =)
[14:58] <iamviveksri> ranjan: hi
[14:58] <ranjan> iamviveksri, pm
[14:58] <cdavis> How can I install an i386 package on a 64bit system?
[14:59] <iamviveksri> i just managed to install ubuntu on acer 4820t so came back to say thanks to this forum
[14:59] <ranjan> iamviveksri, great
[14:59] <ranjan> iamviveksri, thats a good habbit :)
[14:59] <compdoc> cdavis, apt-get usually works
[14:59] <iamviveksri> ranjan thx
[14:59] <Guest6902> Hi, I'm having some issues with aptitude upgrade; it's giving me: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main libpam0g i386 1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2
[15:00] <Guest6902>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[15:00] <wendico> Hello, I want to plug, sync and manage my Nokia N70 with my ubuntu. What apps should i install?
[15:00] <iamviveksri> ranjan: how u pm here
[15:00] <DJones> !pamerr | Guest6902
[15:00] <cdavis> compdoc: Can I apt-get install a .deb directly like dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> !pamerror | Guest6902
[15:00] <DJones> !pamerror | Guest6902
[15:01] <Pici> DJones: I just aliased !pamerr to the same factoid, for future reference.
[15:02] <DJones> Pici: Thanks, I'd hadn't quite noticed the full !trigger, that was just my mistake
[15:02] <Yearsofterror> How do i install flash? just got back to using  ubuntu :S
[15:02] <Guest6902> So I'm fine to ignore it and it'll sort itself out when the repaired package is availible?
[15:02] <Pokemon> download and install...
[15:03] <Yearsofterror> Well the download is a file type im new too
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> !flash > Yearsofterror
[15:03] <Yearsofterror> and there isnt an installer... i suppose im spoiled by windows
[15:03] <wendico> i pluged my phone to my ubuntu and i see nothing happend, i cant access to it. what should i do to manage and sync my phone?
[15:04] <nancy> http://xdcc.it/?hash=7c9c446da9f73eb75c42e20fd47f99e5
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> yeah that PM was useless
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> wendico: what phone? does it need any settings on the phone?
[15:04] <rsh> hello everyone
[15:04] <nancy> hi
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> Thanks for the help.......... as if
[15:04] <hans__> Hello everyone
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> this channel always blows for help
[15:04] <iamviveksri> i am using freenode ---can some1 plz guide me how to pm here
[15:04] <kuku> hi
[15:04] <kuku> I have a problem with avogadro, I cant run it as a normal user under linux properly - When I start it as a non root user, I cant see any atoms, and the terminal gives the error libpng warning: Ignoring attempt to set cHRM RGB triangle with zero area
[15:05] <kuku> I am running ubuntu 10.04 with avogadro 1.0 btw the one from the repository
[15:05] <rsh> ActionParsnip: how can I find out what application is using which port? I want to use tor, but I am getting some error.
[15:05] <openshell> kuku where you from
[15:05] <kuku> germany
[15:05] <Pici> rsh: sudo netstat -tanp
[15:05] <wendico> Hey ActionParsnip, i thinks does not need. It is symbian based (nokia n70 updated to las symbian) and i do see a change, my phone modem is detected and showed in the network icon. Nothing else i can see.  I like to manage contacts and messages especially and the access to the memory card
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> rsh: netstat -a    will show
[15:05] <rsh> okay
[15:05] <fonzie2kk> can i safly use "tune2fs -m /dev/sdx1" while the disk has content and allready is mounted?
[15:06] <iamviveksri> i am using webchat --can anyone guide me on how to pm
[15:06] <sipior> fonzie2kk: yes
[15:06] <fonzie2kk> sipior: ok. Thanks :)
[15:07] <tzink> hello all.  I've got a curious question: I'm currently running 10.10 with my bottom gnome panel replaced with AWN.  It looks like 11.04 upgrades gnome, will this conflict with my AWN setup?
[15:07] <rsh> okay, it says tcp is using 9050, now how do I make it to use for "tor"?
[15:07] <Pokemon> what does pm mean?
[15:07] <rsh> :D
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> private mail
[15:07] <rsh> private msg
[15:07] <compdoc> private message
[15:08] <Pokemon> thanks
[15:08] <compdoc> what does Pokemon mean?
[15:08] <openshell> rsh what was that command?
[15:08] <Pokemon> guess
[15:08] <oCean> compdoc: please stay on topic
[15:08] <rsh> openshell netstat -a
[15:10] <rsh> state = listen on 9050 port
[15:10] <hans__> Hey guys, i installed KDE-standard but now when i try to remove it it dosent remove the KDE applications. Help?
[15:10] <DynamicFail> Can you use Cmnd_Alias on specific files?
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> hans__: it's because most kde apps can be used in gnome
[15:12] <ruadh> Hi! i have problem.  I have just installed ubuntu 10.04 and find things very slugush.  Is there  any way of puting this right?
[15:12] <LAcan> is there something wrong with this line in /etc/environment : "PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/poweruser/Documents"
[15:12] <hans__> MonkeyDust: OK, that sucks. now i have to remove them individually :(
[15:12] <beli> hans__: maybe removing kdelibs helps
[15:13] <beli> hans__: cause the apps depend on them
[15:13] <Milossh> BluesKaj, thanks for audio help. It solved it
[15:13] <hans__> Beli: nah, i use KDENLIVE.. :(
[15:14] <hans__> ruadh: yea log in in classic gnome :D
[15:14] <Milossh> I have only one more question: how do I set my preferred browser on gnome-session on 11.04, when it's not available in the dropdown
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Milossh, good :)
[15:14] <mikeconcepts> libpam related updates not available for download?
[15:14] <Pici> !pamerr| mikeconcepts
[15:14] <beli> hans__: so use some regular expression to match all installed ^k.*  apps...verify the result and remove them ;)
[15:14] <hans__> beli:good idea
[15:15] <hans__> beli:thanks
[15:15] <mikeconcepts> Pici, wow yer fast, thanks
[15:15] <Pici> mikeconcepts: no problem
[15:15] <ruadh> hans_ how do i do that?
[15:15] <blueonyx> hi, i have a 3ware raid6 were one drive got degraded today and 2 others got removed from the unit, there was no error about these two, but my raid is inoperable now, any pointers how to get the last 2 up again?
[15:15] <LAcan_> how can I add a directory to $PATH ? i tried adding it to /etc/environment but it didnt take
[15:16] <_Lucifer> other than maybe the disk space they take up, is there any downside to installing all the available desktop environments and switching between them on my whims?
[15:16] <peterkirn> Getting jumpy polling from a Logitech G9 mouse (on Ubuntu only; fine on Mac OS X and Windows as near as I can tell.) It'll spontaneously read positions from 300px away, regardless of sensitivity settings. Anything to adjust polling-wise? lubuntu natty
[15:17] <sipior> blueonyx: to clarify, the raid is missing three elements, or two?
[15:17] <blueonyx> sipior: 3 now
[15:18] <sipior> blueonyx: raid6 can tolerate the loss of only two elements, i'm afraid
[15:18] <kuku> Can anyone help me with running avogadro as a non root user? It doesnt show any atoms and seems to be a problem with permissions
[15:19] <edbian_> LAcan_: Did you already get an answer?
[15:19] <LAcan_> edbian, no...
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path/
[15:20] <rsh> I haven't got mine yet
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: You can look at it using echo $PATH
[15:20] <LAcan_> edbian_, ya bt id like it to be permanet
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: ahhh, hang on
[15:20] <sipior> LAcan_: was it your intent to set the variable for all users, or just yourself?
[15:21] <rsh> if it says tcp is using port 9050, how do I make it to use by tor?
[15:21] <edbian_> LAcan_: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
[15:23] <tarzeau> the security mirror has a problem right now?
[15:24] <Pici> !pamerr | tarzeau
[15:24] <edbian_> LAcan_: Helpful?
[15:24] <tarzeau> ubottu: indeed.
[15:25] <tarzeau> i was able to do 3 automatic network installs, and now the last two fail
[15:25] <LAcan_> edbian_, yes ty!
[15:25] <edbian_> LAcan_: sure
[15:25] <spliffi> #ubuntu fr
[15:25] <blueonyx> sipior: yea, thats my problem, but i dont think the 2 other drives are also dead, they just got kicked out of the unit. is the only way to add them again a rebuild?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> spliffi: tapez /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:26] <sipior> blueonyx: drives don't generally just get kicked out of an array. what happened to cause the problem?
[15:26] <spliffi> thanks monkeydust
[15:26] <Fonzieftw> what user does samba normally run on? Need to grant write permission to a folder, so samba users can write to it.
[15:26] <blueonyx> sipior: an power on reset on one port
[15:26] <LAcan_> Fonzieftw, u need to add a UID and GID line to fstab i think
[15:27] <DynamicFail> How can I change the permissions on a single program to run with root privlages
[15:27] <Fonzieftw> LAcan_: I can just chmod 775 to the folder, and add the samba deamon user to the owner group, cant i?
[15:27] <tarzeau> DynamicFail: which program?
[15:27] <edbian_> DynamicFail: What program is it?  Why does it need to run as root?
[15:27] <LAcan_> Fonzieftw, thats  hack
[15:27] <LAcan_> a hack
[15:28] <compdoc> anyone use nut and an apc ups? upsmon mentions /etc/killpower, but there is no such file
[15:28] <LAcan_> ur better off adding the GID to fstab for the group you want to write
[15:28] <sipior> blueonyx: you said this was a hardware raid?
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[15:28] <ranjan> DynamicFail, you should use SUID for this
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> it seems the lucid security repo is broken
[15:28] <Gump> #ubuntu, I am having a problem with the package flashplugin-nonfree. it is performing extremely poorly on my computer, to the point of making any browser it runs in unresponsive. i have also tried installing flashplayer from the adobe website, with the same result. anyone have a suggestion?
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> missing pam packages
[15:28] <DynamicFail> tarzeau, edbian_ it is a program that starts my mpegencoder. Forwhatever reason it doesn't work unless I run it with sudo
[15:28] <blueonyx> sipior: yes 3ware 9650se
[15:28] <tarzeau> !pamerr pmjdebruijn
[15:28] <Pici> !pamerr | pmjdebruijn
[15:28] <edbian_> DynamicFail: You could use setUID or just sudo
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> ah
[15:29] <sipior> blueonyx: 3ware usually provides a configuration facility at boot. can you access it?
[15:29] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Make the owner root and turn on the setUID bit.  Does that make sense?
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau: ok, but should the sources been updated?
[15:29] <Pici> pmjdebruijn: It hasn't been fixed yet.
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> right
[15:29] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: i guess just wait until it works again
[15:29] <DynamicFail> edbian_, I'm not sure how to do that
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> I mean the Packages file? now the packages themselves
[15:29] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Which part?
[15:29] <blueonyx> sipior: i could try, but last time this thing wasnt of big help
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> I can't update all the other packages ATM because the repo is broken
[15:29] <Gump> gnash is also essentially unusable. it is buggy and performs poorly as well. my system is obviously powerful enough to play flash videos
[15:29] <DynamicFail> edbian_, both
[15:29] <DynamicFail> :)
[15:30] <DynamicFail> It doesn't appear that I have setUID as an option
[15:30] <nikolaibo> www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info
[15:31] <Gump> anyone?
[15:31] <tarzeau> Gump: i agree
[15:31] <edbian_> DynamicFail: to set the file as root:  sudo chown root /path/to/file
[15:31] <Gump> tarzeau, thanks, so helpful. dude, please don't tell me you just don't use flash
[15:31] <tarzeau> Gump: i just use flash with the binary flash player
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: gnash really is crap.
[15:32] <Gump> tarzeau, i agree, but so is flashplugin-nonfree
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: at least it works?
[15:32] <Gump> what do you mean the binary flash player
[15:32] <Gump> tarzeau, no it doesn't on my computer. gnash works better than the adobe flash player right now
[15:32] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: the flashplugin-nonfree is the binary flash player
[15:33] <edbian_> DynamicFail: got that much?
[15:33] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:33] <tarzeau> Gump: what computer do you have? you use the flash player inside firefox?
[15:33] <DynamicFail> edbian_, yep
[15:33] <beli> edbian_: nerver use setuid/setgid if there is no other solution avaiable.......i recommend to use sudo...you can define users to be allowed to run programs...read the sudo manual
[15:33] <sipior> blueonyx: i'm not aware of another way to reconfigure the array. unfortunately, this is a hardware problem--you might try taking up contact with 3ware (or the folks who sold you the card).
[15:33] <Gump> tarzeau, so you've never encountered any serious performance issues? i have a gateway m-6850FX laptop, with a good graphics card and good drivers. flashplugin-nonfree is unusable from within the browser with hardware acceleration enabled and disabled
[15:34] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> !repeat > champ
[15:34] <edbian_> DynamicFail: beli is advising we use sudo.  The difference is that if we use setUID any user will be allowed to run your program.  If we make people use sudo to run it only sudoers can run it.  It is your call.  Technically sudo is a more secure alternative
[15:34] <blueonyx> sipior: okay, thanks anyhow, will do so
[15:34] <tarzeau> Gump: no, it works fine here, on powerful machines with nvidia graphics cards, and also the binary nvidia graphics driver
[15:34] <samu3572> I lost my trash can after a partial update. How do I restore my trash can?
[15:34] <sipior> blueonyx: best of luck sorting things out
[15:34] <champ> Sidewinder1:thanks for ur advice
[15:35] <tarzeau> Gump: what about this? http://www.youtube.com/html5
[15:35] <Gump> tarzeau, what can i try? i've uninstalled and reinstalled the flashplugin. the funny thing is it worked fine at first. it just suddenly stopped working
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> Don't mention it.
[15:35] <DynamicFail> edbian_, I want anyone to be able to run this program
[15:35] <edbian_> Gump: Having more than one flash player installed can screw things up
[15:35] <DynamicFail> all it does is turn on my mpegencoder
[15:35] <tarzeau> Gump: try html5?
[15:35] <edbian_> DynamicFail: then sudo chmod 4744 /path/to/file
[15:35] <Gump> tarzeau, hold on, trying it
[15:35] <openshell> i have a dell vostro 3300 and want to improve on my security skills using blacktrack
[15:35] <openshell> what do i need
[15:35] <DynamicFail> edbian_, Thanks!
[15:36] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Test it, does it work?
[15:36] <Pici> openshell: We do not support backtrack here, please use their channel: #backtrack-linux
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> openshell:  never heard of blacktrack... you mean BackTrack?
[15:36] <champ> Sidewinder1:thanks for ur advice
[15:36] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:36] <edbian_> DynamicFail: I think it might need to be 4755   (allowing others to execute) it's kinda tricky with setUID on
[15:36] <Gump> tarzeau, no good.
[15:36] <tarzeau> Gump: what browser?
[15:37] <tarzeau> Gump: it works nice here, without the flash player - i recommend google chrome
[15:37] <apporc> now there is a problem . apt-get for libpam on archive.ubuntu.com failed with 404 error
[15:37] <Gump> tarzeau, i am currently using chrome
[15:37] <oCean> !pamerr | apporc
[15:37] <tarzeau> Gump: chrome doesn't have webm support yet, i guess?
[15:37] <apporc> Thanks
[15:38] <Gump> tarzeau, i take that back. the html5 player works great
[15:38] <Gump> tarzeau, what does this mean? what can i do to get normal flash player working?
[15:38] <beli> DynamicFail: setuid/setgid apps are still a very nasty aim for unprivileged users to elevate privileges......allthough you dont need to seperate access for users, you should use sudo. you can define the app to be allowed to use by ALL users there too, but your security increases
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: html5/webm? it's much better especially on laptops/netbooks, where battery power is important
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: forget adobe flash, it'll fade away - i hope
[15:39] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Is it even working?
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: gnash is a dead project, since there's no free software to create flash media
[15:39] <DynamicFail> edbian_, trying it :)
[15:40] <Gump> tarzeau, naw dude. so, i've got youtube now, but what about flash games. what about porn websites?? it is of great urgency that i figure this out!
[15:40] <Pici> tarzeau, Gump: gnash is not a dead project.
[15:41] <Gump> but it is a sucky one
[15:41] <tarzeau> Gump: thehun works without flash
[15:41] <edbian_> DynamicFail: see what beli said?  he is correct
[15:41] <Gump> lol tarzeau ty
[15:41] <champ> !ubottu
[15:42] <Pici> Gump, tarzeau: This channel is supposed to be family friendly, can we keep the porn discussion out of here.
[15:43] <DynamicFail> beli, I don't know how to modify the sudoers file in a bash script
[15:43] <DynamicFail> I know how to chmod in a bash script
[15:43] <Gump> Pici, i kinda doubt anyone using irc hasn't been to one of the *chan sites or goatse lol
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure the sudoers file is the kind of thing you want to be messing with in a script..  if you do.. be sure to make backupds.  You would most likely use sed/awk to alter the file as needed
[15:44] <tarzeau> Pici: of course
[15:44] <fazle> hi
[15:44] <fazle> I am new with ubuntu
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> a messed up sudoers file - can result in sudo not working. and would have to restort to a live cd  or recovery mode to fix it.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> DynamicFail, a script in sudoers ...scude the pun , but what are you trying to in sudoers ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> to do
[15:45] <tarzeau> is the pamerr going to be fixed soon, or should i just go home?
[15:45] <fazle> I want to configure my my gmail, Hotmail and live accounts in ubuntu
[15:46] <fazle> Can anyone help me in this
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> fazle:  clarify what you mean. I just go to their web sites and they work fine.
[15:46] <tarzeau> fazle: in which mail program?
[15:46] <fazle> evalution mail
[15:47] <fazle> or any other mail client what I can install on ubuntu
[15:49] <DynamicFail> BlueKaj I have massive script that does a lot of setup to get a system to a state I like, including installing drivers (not in apt-get), creating folders, copying scripts, etc. One of my mpegencoder programs necessary to run requires it to be run with sudo. My master script trys to add a smaller script to the startup applications area. This smaller script calls that program that needs to run with sudo. So instead of changing the SUID on the whole .sh fil
[15:49] <DynamicFail> e I changed it just on the manufactured provided binary. The alternative was to have my master script modify the sudoers file to allow it to run with NOPASSWD (=scary) and then have my smaller script call the mpegencoder using sudo.
[15:49] <beli> DynamicFail: erm.....you just need to edit the sudoers file
[15:49] <BluesKaj> mail clients aren't worth the trouble unless you need high security ...gmail is a godend IMO :)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> godsend rather :)
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> DynamicFail:  you can NOT make a script suid
[15:49] <beli> DynamicFail: sudo /path/to/youreditor /etc/sudoers
[15:50] <edbian> DynamicFail: True, you can only make compiled binaries setUID.  I did not know that this target file was a script
[15:50] <beli> Dr_Willis: thats not what he is trying to do
[15:50] <tarzeau> fazle: evolution or thunderbird
[15:50] <edbian> DynamicFail: visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[15:50] <Pici> beli: No. You should use visudo to modify your sudoes file.
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Im not clear on what hes doing really,,  ims till trying to figure out why a mpegencoder needs  sudo...
[15:50] <beli> Pici: right, right
[15:50] <Pici> beli: visudo respects $EDITOR
[15:51] <DynamicFail> I don't want to have the script run with root... just the binary called in the script
[15:52] <DynamicFail> call it "mpegEn"
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> You can set sudo to run a binary as root. and not ask for a password.
[15:52] <beli> DynamicFail: add sth like  %users     ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/yourscript             or /path/to/yourapp
[15:52] <tarzeau> fazle: in software-center
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> then the scriopt can call 'sudo whatever' and it will run that bianry as root.
[15:52] <edbian> DynamicFail: Then setUID will work on the binary.  The sudoers solution will also work
[15:52] <DynamicFail> What is wrong with having my master script simply do chmod 4755 /path/to/program/mpegEn
[15:52] <beli> DynamicFail: the script executes the called app as the user you invoked the script from....so it will work too
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> the suid bit is considered a huge security 'risk' and should only be used when absoultly no othe rway to do it..
[15:53] <edbian> DynamicFail: Then anytime anybody runs that program it will run as root.  You could use that to e.g. delete / rename system files
[15:53] <BluesKaj> DynamicFail, hmm, I wonder if adding the script paths to the sudoers nopassword string will work ..like /etci/nit.d/rc*d or whatever the.sh
[15:54] <lucidguy> ssh-Xforwarding-Virtualbox question.  I need to ssh into a remote box then su to another user and setup their virtualbox.  VirtualBox-OSE always complains "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." .. Work Around?
[15:55] <lucidguy> I ssh into their box as root initially with -X
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: when you ssh, do you add the -X option
[15:55] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: I'd add -C too (for compression), does the system you are connecting from have an X server running?
[15:55] <lucidguy> and the ssh_config allows xforwarding.  Its the switching user that stops me .. I can xforward with the original account I ssh with.
[15:56] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: Yes .. its an UbuntuDestop system
[15:56] <DynamicFail> beli, Dr_Willis What would be more risky... having a bash script that modifies the sudoers file or having a bash script that calls a binary within it that has been chmod to 4755
[15:56] <nithin935> podubuntu.blogspot.com
[15:56] <beli> DynamicFail: you dont modify the sudoers file from a script
[15:56] <WindowsMojave> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
[15:56] <WindowsMojave> Why does it say 2.5 as the latest release? lol
[15:57] <DynamicFail> beli, then I guess the only way to make it work is the SUID change
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: if you ssh as the user you intend to use the x forwarding, instead of su-ing, does it work?
[15:57] <beli> DynamicFail: again: modify the sudoers file that way, that your users can execute the binary your shell script is executing
[15:57] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:57] <Dr_Willis|2> DynamicFail:  what if some nasty user had that mencoder app save its 'output' to /dev/sda     - your system would be trashed.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> WindowsMojave: update the doc
[15:57] <Dulak> lucidguy: the quick fix is to use xauth and permit your remote machine full access to the display
[15:57] <beli> DynamicFail: if your shell script is run...its run under the actual user.......and this user is allowed to execute the binary then...
[15:57] <sipior> WindowsMojave: it doesn't actually say that.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: sounds like a workaround to me :)
[15:57] <careyt> Hello, I need some help changing file permissions while using ubuntu live from a USB drive.
[15:57] <Dulak> lucidguy: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html
[15:58] <lucidguy> Dulak: thanks .. will look into it
[15:58] <careyt> I have a second USB drive plugged in and I want to run a jar file and it wont let me use it as an executable. how do I change the permissions for that as I'm not root on there
[15:58] <b__> Hi there: Is there any reason why I should install ubuntu 10.04 instead of 10.10?
[15:58] <Dr_Willis|2> carandraug:   you could run  java -jar /path/to/the/whatever.jar
[15:59] <studiomonitor> Yes
[15:59] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:   you could run  java -jar /path/to/the/whatever.jar
[15:59] <DynamicFail> I understand that risk, but I really don't want to have to manually change the suders file. If there is a way to append the needed line to the sudoers file in a bash script I would love to do it.
[15:59] <b__> studiomonitor, what?
[15:59] <careyt> already tried that, it isn't allowed
[15:59] <studiomonitor> b__ 10.4 is more stable
[15:59] <Dulak> b__: depends on what you are doing with the computer really.  I stay on LTS releases myself but I don't have to have all the latest stuff.
[15:59] <careyt> I tried to set permissions to let everyone run it as executable and it wont let me change it.
[15:59] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:   calling java directly dident work?
[15:59] <b__> studiomonitor, thanks, I didn't actually remember wich one I used to prefere.
[15:59] <careyt> yeah.
[15:59] <b__> prefer*
[15:59] <beli> DynamicFail:  the sudoers file is system wide? you alter it ONE time....and never touch it again if it works
[16:00] <careyt> it says it can't be run as an executable.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> careyt: chmod +x file
[16:00] <careyt> can't chmod as I'm not root. how do I switch to root on a USB drive install
[16:00] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  that seems weird..  a jar isent really an executable..        if the thing is on a NTFS/fat filesystem you can tjust chmod it.. you need to copy it to a linux fs. or remounte the filesystem with the optiosn that will make Everything on the hd executable
[16:01] <b__> Dulak, I just want it to be fast and stable.
[16:01] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  so what FS is the hard drive in question using?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> careyt: if the file is owned b you, it doesn't need any extra permissions
[16:01] <careyt> fat32
[16:01] <studiomonitor> Did you know you guys are the chat room featured on my live stream at http://browntechx.com/live
[16:01] <b__> I'm using a dual core processor but I've had enough of 64 bits stuff.
[16:01] <Dulak> b__: stick to 10.04 for now then if you want stable
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> careyt: ahh, fat32 may make things annoying
[16:01] <careyt> *sigh*
[16:01] <b__> So I'm switching back to 10.04 32 bit.
[16:01] <ferengee> java -jar <jarfile>
[16:01] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  then you either remount it.. or copy it somewhere else..  I cant imagine why the java -jar foo.jar  would need to be executable
[16:01] <careyt> I'll try it again.
[16:02] <DynamicFail> beli, I understand this... but my masterscript is supose to be run once after a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04.
[16:02] <careyt> thank you guys. I may be back, I dunno.
[16:02] <b__> Thanks and goodbye.
[16:03] <beli> DynamicFail: sorry, i dont understand your scenario now anymore
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor, Who am I?
[16:05] <phaidros> natty, compiz gets high load, how to prevent this?
[16:05] <phaidros> eek, compiz takle 2gb of memory !!!
[16:05] <phaidros> holy ...
[16:06] <lucidguy> Dulak: I can't get it to work even if I xhost + the system
[16:06] <phaidros> killing compiz leaves me with no usable X :p
[16:07] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor: So, who am I?..
[16:08] <m4xx> i'm trying to set up my kyocera fs-1128mfp printer via network. if i print small files it works just fine, but if i try to print this 3.7mb pdf the printer errors and the attention light starts blinking
[16:08] <Dulak> lucidguy: I use the xauth solution with the cookie myself, never tried xhost because it's a bad idea
[16:08] <m4xx> anyone know what might be going on?
[16:08] <lucidguy> Dulak: the problem is because I su to another user .....  I think thats what messes up X
[16:08] <yannorEC> #grass
[16:09] <lucidguy> Dulak: as stated before . .It works fine if I remote into the system and then launch a graphical app ... X forwards fine.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> m4xx: how much cache does the printer have?
[16:10] <Dulak> lucidguy: you have to do the xauth thing as the user that is running X, then put the cookie into the env of the user you su to
[16:10] <lov> Hi, I'm getting the following when I run apt-cache update
[16:10] <lov>  Failed to fetch http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.171 80]
[16:10] <m4xx> the web interface says it has 256mb memory
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lov: there are no more updates for Jaunty
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lov: Jaunty is now EOL
[16:10] <Dulak> lucidguy: that should give the su user access to the other user's X
[16:10] <lov> ActionParsnip: thanks. What file do I modify to remove those sources from my list?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> lov: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <lucidguy> Dulak: this xauth is a little over my head.. probably easier to just have the user login for me..
[16:11] <lov> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:11] <lucidguy> Dulak: as in Im sure I can figure it out .. but not worth this one time thing.
[16:11] <m4xx> ActionParsnip, when i print to that same file to the same printer from a windows machine it seems to work just fine.
[16:12] <Dulak> lucidguy: that would fix it, if X runs as the user you need, no need to worry about xauth
[16:12] <nor_> hello
[16:12] <timtimtimtim> how can i modify the "selected" appearance in my gnome panel? http://postimage.org/image/2eg3jt4sk/
[16:12] <nor_> could someone help me whit the root system in linux??
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor, Although it's exceedingly slow today, your link to your live feed (which I think is really cool), would probably be better in #ubuntu-offtopic as I replied to you, twice and was concerned about being chastised for being off topic. Just a thought. :-)
[16:13] <lov> Another question: I'm now getting the following when running apt-cache update
[16:13] <lov> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[16:13] <lov> I only see one entry for this in my sources.list file, however
[16:14] <nor_> could a "ubuntunderstand-er" help me in a question whit the root sistem in ubuntu??
[16:14] <aauthor_> Hey everyone.  In my htdocs directory I have a symbolic link to a folder in my home folder, but whenever I try access it (e.g. localhost/mylinkedfolder) it gives me a 403.  The mylinkedfolder has 777 permission, so I can't figure out what's up.
[16:15] <lov> I only see two "lucid partner" lines, for that matter; one is deb, the other is deb-src
[16:15] <TbHack> I downloaded the ubuntu 11 iso, now trying to install on vmware, however initramfs is giving an error, do I need something else before I can install on vmware?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> lov: you have the partner repo defined more than once, if you enabled it in sources.list, remove it in software centre
[16:16] <Dr_Willis|2> lov:  check the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory perhaps
[16:16] <lov> here is sources.list: http://privatepaste.com/c7eae0e465
[16:16] <lov> I'll check sources.list.d, thanks
[16:17] <Dr_Willis|2> i think thats the right path
[16:17] <nor_> i want to use a command in the terminal but if i try it tells me i need root priviliges ,i type in su then the pw
[16:17] <nor_> and i try again and it tells me the same
[16:17] <lov> Dr_Willis|2: that was it, thanks.
[16:17] <lov> thanks again for your help, ActionParsnip and Dr_Willis|2
[16:17] <Dulak> nor_: sudo not su
[16:17] <edbian> nor_: sudo command
[16:17] <nor_> oh
[16:18] <nor_> ok i try
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: did you md test the ISO?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> md5 sorry
[16:19] <lucidguy> Dulak: The best work around is to not even use xauth .. but the command "sux"
[16:19] <lucidguy> Dulak: works like a charm
[16:19] <studiomonitor> Hey Stevie
[16:20] <Dulak> lucidguy: hah that does the cookie thing automagjcally and I had completely forgotten about it.  That command basically does what that site I pasted you tells you to do manually
[16:20] <lucidguy> Dulak: yes .. so I noted
[16:20] <TbHack> ActionParsnip: No, how should I do that?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[16:21] <Dulak> lucidguy: upvote for persistence.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: you currently have no way of knowing if the ISO is complete or consistent as you have failed to verify it
[16:21] <janisozaur> is it possible to turn logging on for already started screen session?
[16:21]  * jiltdil gnom3 is nicer than unity
[16:22] <nor_> could someone tell me an example how to use the sudo cuz it looks like im a real retard
[16:23] <Dulak> janisozaur: ctrl-a H
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nor_: sudo apt-get update
[16:23] <auk> hello, so i just changed my uid on my primary account from 1000 to 500, subsequently i can't get a functional desktop to load with that account
[16:23] <wendico> sorry, noob question, wich is the default directory for the installation of programs on ubuntu?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> nor_: we were all newbies, once
[16:23] <nor_> ty:)
[16:24] <edbian> auk: Are you willing to change your UID back?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> wendico: /usr/bin
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> auk: you will need to chown the home dir to the same user, so it updates the uid
[16:24] <kubanc> can i use 32 bit gparted for 64bit CPU?
[16:24] <wendico> ty monkeydust
[16:24] <edbian> wendico: It throws stuff in various places.  The binaries go in /usr/bin
[16:24] <Dulak> wendico: there is no real default each package has it's own place to install itself, not like in windows where everything is under program files
[16:24] <edbian> kubanc: Yes.  You can use a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit machine
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: yes
[16:24] <livingdaylight> ubuntu bar is stuck in open mode; not re-hiding - help
[16:25] <steveire> Any networking experts here? One natty laptop can access the net fine, and the other can't. The output of ifconfig is very similar
[16:25] <phaidros> howto replace unity with gnome3 in natty?
[16:25] <addisonj> steveire, can you ping google?
[16:25] <steveire> The one that can't access the net also can't get it with a cabe;
[16:25] <auk> there is first a problem with gdm not showing the user entry, which is fixed by clicking Other and typing the username, however then more problems come up - a nautilus error saying it can't create teh Desktop and other defautl folders
[16:25] <wendico> But, when i want to change some program config they always tell me go to /program name/program.conf, thts normaly in usr/bin/program name/program.conf?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> steveire: ethernet or wifi?
[16:25] <auk> as well as several other error windows
[16:25] <steveire> cable*
[16:25] <steveire> MonkeyDust: Both
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> steveire: which won't work, ethernet or wifi?
[16:26] <edbian> wendico: No, those are in your /home/wendico/  folder.  For example, /home/wendico/.mozilla   for firefox
[16:26] <steveire> MonkeyDust: Both do not work
[16:26] <auk> edbian: yes i am willing to change it back temporarily but would be very nice to be able to have it at 500 afterwards, for sharing a home partition with fedora
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | phaidros
[16:26] <addisonj> steveire, can you ping google or local machines via IP
[16:26] <edbian> wendico: User specific settings (like firefox bookmarks) are stored in those .folders in your home directory
[16:26] <bretzel> Herllo: I have a seriou issue with ncurses development packages: pkg-config, cmake report missing CURSES_LIBRARY etc. ... I realize that ncurses.pc is missing!!!
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: http://www.mistywindow.com/taming-ubuntu-unity-sidebar/
[16:27] <steveire> We had some network trouble in work, and I had to do sudo route something, and something with dhclient. That was on the 'broken' laptop
[16:27] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: is there a way to get rid of unity safely?
[16:27] <edbian> auk: Then follow ActionParsnip's instructions
[16:27] <phaidros> eg. back to gnome2?
[16:27] <steveire> I can not ping google on the 'broken' one
[16:27] <steveire> It times out
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> phaidros: log in to gnome classic desktop
[16:27] <auk> ...the other option is modigying fedora's uid to 1000, which is possible but might have to involve setting up a dummy first account at install time then creating a new account to be 1000
[16:27] <wendico> Thank you everybody
[16:27] <auk> (edbian)
[16:27] <pstewart> steveire: does it resolve google.com to the ip?
[16:28] <edbian> (auk)
[16:28] <steveire> pstewart: I don't know
[16:28] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: thanx
[16:28] <steveire> would it print output if it did?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> phaidros: np
[16:28] <steveire> Currently it prints only unknown host google.com after about 30 sec
[16:29] <auk> edbian: oh sorry i missed that, this web client is loading things in 30-lien chunks
[16:29] <phox_> Hi! Noob question: does arch use gnome, kde or something else? then what, and what are these types of graphic handlers called? =)
[16:29] <s093294> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /home/s093294/Android/opencv/android/android-opencv/libs/armeabi-v7a/libandroid-opencv.so when searching for -landroid-opencv /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -landroid-opencv    Does this error make any meaning to anyone, no luck on google
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> phox_: arch is offtopic here
[16:29] <phox_> actionparsnip: ops, wrong window :P
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> phox_: clearly ;)
[16:29] <raoult1> HELP
[16:30] <steveire> How do I see/set my dns servers?
[16:30] <auk> ActionParsnip, i also noticed when i changed the uid that i didn't  change the group id etc, just the user id, should i change the others too?
[16:30] <phaidros> steveire: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> auk: not sure, as long as you have a backup you can go crazy :)
[16:30] <steveire> Hmm, both the same
[16:31] <steveire> # Generated by NetworkManager
[16:31] <steveire> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[16:31] <pstewart> steveire: is your default gateway set properly?
[16:32] <Jack_bt5> server irc.hak5.org
[16:32] <Jack_bt5> server irc.hak5.org 6667
[16:32] <auk> ActionParsnip: haha i don't have a backup, the drive i was using broke
[16:32] <steveire> pstewart: That rings a bell I had to mess with that in work in the last week, but actually a colleague did the changes.
[16:32] <steveire> How do I check that?
[16:32] <pstewart> steveire: route | grep default
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> auk: scary
[16:32] <joris> \join #latex
[16:33] <Sidewinder1> joris, I believe it's "/" not "\"...
[16:33] <auk> ActionParsnip: i should be able to change the permissions from nautilus from another sudoer account no?
[16:33] <gaelfx> haha, kinky
[16:34] <joris> yes idd thanks:p
[16:34] <Sidewinder1> welks
[16:34] <steveire> pstewart: It says the gateway is 192.168.2.1 on the broken one, and easy.box on this one
[16:34] <steveire> host easy.box returns the same ip on this one
[16:34] <steveire> It also takes much longer on the broken one
[16:34] <pstewart> steveire: so easy.box = 192.168.2.1?
[16:34] <raido> does anyone know a command like "pwd" that will show which filesystem (as in one on a remote server) the cwd is mounted on
[16:35] <steveire> Yes. host easy.box
[16:35] <steveire> easy.box has address 192.168.2.1
[16:35] <steveire> But the route command takes 14 seconds to print the default line, whereas on this computer it's instant
[16:36] <pstewart> steveire: was there more than one default route?
[16:36] <steveire> This computer also has a link-local line that the broken one does not have
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> raido: mount    will show where things are mountd
[16:36] <bretzel> ...and btw, cpu trottle is above 13% all the time ... I have nothing running that justify that load!
[16:37] <steveire> Nope, the broken one has two lines in the table. One default, and one with Gateway *
[16:37] <steveire> The non-broken one has the extra link-local line
[16:37] <raido> ActionParsnip: Thats only good for the local machine
[16:38] <wendico> can i make my Unity panels smaller, thiner. with smaller icons and letters?
[16:38] <RichieRampage> hi there, I have upgraded my dev server to ubuntu 11.04, fresh vmware install, code lives on shared drive on a windows 7 host. I reinstalled git with sudo apt-get git-core. I am now getting segmentation errors when trying to init a new repo and when I try and clone existing repos to remote server, anyone come across similar? Cheers Rich
[16:38] <edbian> wendico: It is not yet configurable :(
[16:38] <pstewart> steveire: the line with "Gateway *" ... does it have a destination route assiciated with it? (ie. 192.168.2.0)
[16:38] <Dulak> bretzel: umm I have X w/compiz, a music player, a browser, and irc running, and sit at about 15% all the time.  13% means you maybe don't have a music player running...
[16:39] <steveire> Yes, it does
[16:39] <joris> you can try to clone the repo with http
[16:39] <edbian> bretzel: 13% sounds about right.  You have a GUI running?
[16:39] <pstewart> steveire: k, and you can ping 192.168.2.1 ?
[16:39] <edbian> bretzel: wifi is up?
[16:39] <TbHack> seems like my ISO was broken, lots of errors on checking md5
[16:39] <bretzel> Dulak: mmm normally , when idle cpu should be between 0%-2%
[16:40] <Dulak> bretzel: how do you figure?  X itself is 8-10%
[16:40] <wendico> edbian: ty
[16:40] <edbian> bretzel: Where do you get that figure
[16:40] <edbian> wendico: sure
[16:40] <Dr_Willis|2> ive seen systems running X that idle at 1-2%
[16:40] <bretzel> edbian: no wifi - eth
[16:40] <steveire> pstewart: 41 packets, 100% loss on the broken one
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: thats why MD5 testing exists
[16:40] <eiriksvin> does anyone in here know of a Python programming irc help chan?
[16:40] <steveire> This one works though.
[16:40] <Dulak> eiriksvin: #python
[16:41] <edbian> bretzel: Why do you think it should be 0 - 2%?  How are you measuring it's usage?
[16:41] <pstewart> steveire: have you tried running dhclient again on the broken machine?
[16:41] <unit-01> whoa where am i?
[16:41] <steveire> Yes. Should I run it without arguments?
[16:41] <edbian> unit-01: #ubuntu
[16:41] <auk> ActionParsnip: i probably should have mentioned that this home partition is encrypted...
[16:41] <pstewart> steveire: well, "dhclient eth0" or whatever interface
[16:42] <unit-01> well i think i have some problems with ubuntu now :)
[16:42] <bretzel> edbian: I figure out 0%-2% because normally: ( arch, OpSuSE, Mint, Fedora etc....) does not seems to run background stuff taking 13-15% off the cpu in idle
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> auk: ive not used that, too many headaches
[16:42] <wendico> are the icons in the main bar also not configurable (clock, sound...)? i like to have 2 more icons-utils on that panel
[16:42] <edbian> bretzel: How are you measuring?
[16:42] <abhinav_singh> what are the shells available in Ubuntu system by default
[16:43] <pstewart> steveire: can you pastebin the output of: route && ifconfig && cat /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[16:43] <bretzel> edbian: ( conky, htop, top, /proc/cpu et ... ?????
[16:43] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: bash, dash, sh
[16:43] <Sidewinder1> !ask > unit-01
[16:44] <abhinav_singh> is there any command to see what are the shells available Dulak
[16:44] <edbian> bretzel: Those are good methods.  (if you use gnome-system monitor it takes so much cpu to draw the graphs it's useless)  I don't have an accurate number for fedora / suse / mint.  Perhaps your computer is doing something in Ubuntu that it is not doing on those systems.  I am not surprised by ~10% usage at idle.
[16:44] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to reg my name with Freenode?
[16:44] <bretzel> even kdevelop not taking more than 3%... right now
[16:44] <auk> ActionParsnip: well in essence i can't see any files unless i'm logged in. so in essence i need to change the file permissions from that account before changin the uid. but will this prevent correct behavoir between the time of modifying the permissions and being fully logged out of the account?
[16:44] <v_v> eiriksvin: /msg nickserv help
[16:44] <Distress> pulseaudio is horrible, audio playback is terrible, audio input barely works. How do i remove this abomination?
[16:44] <abhi_> my nautilus is not working properly
[16:44] <pstewart> abhinav_singh: cat /etc/shells
[16:45] <llutz>  /etc/shells lists only login shells
[16:45] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: not that I'm aware, there is a list in /etc/shells but they can be in that list but not installed on the machine
[16:45] <wendico> what are the default shortkeys for zooming?
[16:45] <pstewart> oh right
[16:45] <pstewart> well, it's a start :)
[16:45] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: by default only the 3 I listed are installed, afaik
[16:46] <cocoa117> EOF upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 (Jaunty to Karmic) have error message Cannot upgrade
[16:46] <cocoa117> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[16:46] <steveire> pstewart: http://dpaste.com/548726/
[16:46] <unit-01> so, im a total newbie to all this, and my ubuntu bitching about free space, so i rebooted under XP, chopped off 4 gbs from 1 logic drive, and increased my ubuntu drive. i can see ubuntu drive is 9 gbs now and it's 49% free. but ubuntu STILL bitches about "185 mbs free space". so, what should i do?
[16:46] <pushpop> my disk says its 100% in use but I can't find any files that would be taking up space.. what should I do??
[16:46] <cocoa117> i didn't ask for lucid upgrade, i was going for karmic upgrade
[16:46] <edbian> pushpop: (clear the trash) look at disk usage analyzer
[16:46] <Sidewinder1> !eol > cocoa117
[16:46] <NoiseEee> I take it the 404 NOT FOUND for updating libpam stuff today is a known issue?
[16:47] <kubanc> what is better to have, ext4 or ext3?
[16:47] <abhinav_singh> okay pstewart Dulak :) ...i see the output of  /etc/shells http://pastebin.com/sTP3EKqT
[16:47] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hi all. Are there any ways to alter the common gtk2 file selector, specifically the size of image thumbnails? I run opera and gtk2 file selector doesn't allow to change size of thumbnails - thumbs are very small and it's very hard to upload, for instance, a pic. I can switch opera file selector to qt, but qt works very slow on my system
[16:47] <Pici> !pamerr| NoiseEee
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> cocoa117: try using the alternate CD and upgrade that way
[16:47] <NoiseEee> thanks Pici
[16:47] <pushpop> edbian, nothing in trash and disk usage showing 100%
[16:47] <pstewart> steveire: does it work better if you do: ifdown wlan1  (with an ethernet cable plugged in)
[16:47] <arvut__> oink
[16:47] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: that list is not what is installed, it's just the most common shells you might want to run, it has zero to do with what is actually installed
[16:47] <edbian> pushpop: disk usage analyzer  Are you using unity or classic?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: try: sudo apt-get clean
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: also uninstall old unused kernels can help lots
[16:48] <abhinav_singh> okay Dulak ..what are the other shells type apart form login shells
[16:48] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: I don't understand the question
[16:48] <pushpop> ilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[16:48] <pushpop> /dev/sda1             141G  134G  308M 100% /
[16:49] <abhinav_singh> i mean what are the other shell types..one is the login shell ..what are the other types Dulak
[16:49] <steveire> pstewart: It says Ingoring unknown interface wlan1=wlan1
[16:49] <edbian> pushpop: Nobody is doubting that the system is full.  Please do what we're suggesting
[16:49] <taowa> !cloak
[16:49] <pushpop> did
[16:49] <pushpop> edbian, none of which worked
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: do you use dropbox?
[16:49] <pushpop> =P
[16:49] <kubanc> what should i add for swap space. should it be primary or secondary?
[16:49] <pushpop> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:50] <edbian> pushpop: disc usage analyzer didn't show you what folders are taking up the most space?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> pushpop: what is the output of:   du -h ~/Dropbox
[16:50] <steveire> The second time it says it's not configured.
[16:50] <taowa> can i have a cloak
[16:50] <pushpop> edbian, /home
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: it doesn't matter
[16:50] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: again it's not clear, a login shell is any shell used to login, any shell can be a login shell
[16:50] <pushpop> but cant find the files taking space
[16:50] <gaelfx> kubanc: swap is generally part of a logical partition, and should be double your physical ram
[16:50] <squig> does any one know how "hyper threading" aware the kernel is
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !cloak | taowa
[16:50] <eiriksvin> is there a way to auto indentify with nickserv?
[16:50] <wendico> May I remove Trash from the Unity Panel? How?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: which client?
[16:50] <abhinav_singh> so ubuntu default login shell is dash? Dulak
[16:50] <eiriksvin> Xchat
[16:50] <edbian> pushpop: look deeper in disc usage.  I suspect ActionParsnip is right.  (he/she usually is)
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> edbian: he ;)
[16:51] <Dulak> abhinav_singh: bash is the default in ubuntu
[16:51] <taowa> !cloak | taowa
[16:51] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbd of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[16:51] <steveire> pstewart: Hmm, I disabled the wireless with the hardware switch and the wired now works
[16:51] <abhinav_singh> okay Dulak
[16:51] <sipior> pushpop: consider changing the default disk block reservation on the disk from 5% to 0% to alleviate the immediate problem.
 XChat
[16:51] <pstewart> steveire: k
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=2660 may help
[16:52] <steveire> pstewart: And after re-enabling wireless works too.
[16:52] <steveire> Bizarre. Thanks very much for your help.
[16:52] <pstewart> steveire: cool
[16:52] <pstewart> np
[16:52] <steveire> network stuff is still a dark art to me.
[16:52] <_thomas__> Hi, someone could please tell me where can I set time of disabled touchpad when I'm typing? The default is too long for me.
[16:53] <M4d3L> hi. how we restart network on ubuntu?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L: sudo servicenetworking restart
[16:53] <edbian> M4d3L: sudo service networking stop    sudo service networking start
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> sudo service networking restart
[16:53] <edbian> ActionParsnip: I don't think restart is a thing anymore
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bah
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> well.....it should be :)
[16:53] <edbian> agreed
[16:53] <Peanut> Hi, I'm trying to bootstrap a brand-new PC. I've made an USB stick with the Ubuntu installer on it and it boots, asks for language and keyboard, but then goes 'No network interfaces detected', foiling my plan to have it just slurp the rest of Ubuntu from our fast net connection. Any hints on how to add to the installer a kernel module for my network card?
[16:54] <edbian> Peanut: wifi or wired?
[16:54] <M4d3L> sudo service networking restart   ==> Unknow instance
[16:54] <edbian> told ya so
[16:54] <Peanut> wired (not stupid ;-)
[16:54] <Dulak> yeah you have to stop it then start it again
[16:54] <edbian> Peanut: I'm surprised it doesn't work out of the box.  Do you have DHCP running.  Can you confirm that the network is operational?
[16:54] <taowa> anyone from ubuntu
[16:55] <M4d3L> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:55] <Dulak> Gotta love that they made it impossible to remotely restart the network
[16:55] <edbian> taowa: Ubuntu is an operating system not a place
[16:55] <Peanut> edbian: It fails even before that (DHCP is not a requirement), it simply finds no networking hardware to even attempt to DHCP with.
[16:55] <Ddpbf> M4d3L: sudo service network not networking
[16:55] <taowa> no ubuntu staff
[16:55] <Pici> taowa: Whats the question?
[16:55] <unit-01> i could use some help here...
[16:55] <M4d3L> network: unrecognized service
[16:55] <edbian> Peanut: I'm not sure then.  Try a full Ubuntu CD.  You only have to download it once and your network connection should make that fast as heck  (USB drive even faster)
[16:55] <mrNotYou> Taowa, not really, the help you get here is usually from fellw ubuntu users, so if you have a question ask away :)
[16:55] <edbian> M4d3L: networking
[16:55] <pusur907> hello?
[16:56] <mrNotYou> *fellow (Taowa)
[16:56] <pusur907> HellO??
[16:56] <Peanut> edbian: But I have no CD. I have the ISO, but no media.
[16:56] <mrNotYou> Yes, pusur907?
[16:56] <Pici> pusur907: hi!
[16:56] <Sidewinder1> pusur907, Good afternoon.
[16:56] <justinx> Hello
[16:56] <pusur907> wazzup
[16:56] <M4d3L> mdelisle@mdelisle-vserver:~$ sudo service networking
[16:56] <M4d3L> Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
[16:56] <M4d3L> mdelisle@mdelisle-vserver:~$ sudo service networking stop
[16:56] <M4d3L> stop: Unknown instance:
[16:56] <gaelfx> hello
[16:57] <edbian> M4d3L: what version of Ubuntu are you on??
[16:57] <M4d3L> LST
[16:57] <gaelfx> !pb > M4d3L
[16:57] <edbian> Peanut: unetbootin
[16:57] <taowa> !cloak
[16:57] <edbian> Peanut: How did you get the net-installer loaded?
[16:57] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbd of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[16:57] <justinx> I got a problem I think, when I check my disk utility it shows I have two swaps (two different sizes also) for one copy of linux
[16:57] <jebula> Hi, I've been trying to launch geany as a normal user and I get a segmentation fault. I can however launch it when I issue the sudo command prior. Any ideas or help is appreciated.
[16:57] <edbian> M4d3L: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:57] <M4d3L> gaelfx: you will cry for 4 line?
[16:57] <edbian> justinx: You only need one :)  Start up gparted and remove one (install gparted if you need to)
[16:58] <edbian> gaelfx: You will cry?
[16:58] <M4d3L> ty! sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart is working
[16:58] <edbian> sure
 um, its talking about adding a script, but I don't know how, and I can't find the Server settings for auto identify
[16:58] <squig> does any one know how "hyper threading" aware the kernel is
[16:59] <roestzwii> hey guys
[16:59] <Peanut> edbian: that might be worthwhile - I'm currently on an OpenSuse system,
[16:59] <justinx> Okay I will get gparted when you install does it automatically show up on the boot screen or do you need a boot disk
[16:59] <edbian> Peanut: unetbootin is neat
[16:59] <Pici> taowa: What is your question?
[16:59] <roestzwii> i want to use gunzip on a ubuntu server, but i need to make the | sign how can i do that?
[16:59] <edbian> justinx: Because you're only editing swap partitions you can boot Ubuntu normally and run gparted in there.
[16:59] <jason^> any chance a new version of pam that was released might break cron?
[16:59] <edbian> roestzwii: shift + [button above enter]
[16:59] <Peanut> edbian: looks neat, but it seems to want the whole ISO on the stick, I hope there's enough room for that.
[16:59] <roestzwii> it tells me this in an example: gunzip -c psyBNC-2.3.2-7.tar.gz | tar xf -
[17:00]  * sipior waves at Peanut
[17:00]  * Peanut is too used to pxe-booting stuff
[17:00] <Peanut> Hey sip :-)
[17:00] <Pici> jason^: Yes. But its been pulled from the repositories, it shouldn't download.
[17:00] <edbian> Peanut: hahaha
[17:00] <roestzwii> shift + backspace?
[17:00] <wendico> i see something very strange. in a laptop with 3 primary partitions (hardwaretest, recovey, windows), i shrinked windows to minimun and in the free space i created an extended partition with 3 logical  (ubuntu, DATA (ntfs), swap). And installed ubuntu. Everything works ok BUT windows disk manager shows 4Primary (hardtest, recove, windows, ubuntu) one extended with a logic (DATA ntfs) and a 5th primary at the end (linux-swap). LOL? Erased
[17:00] <edbian> Peanut: you're being waved at
[17:00] <wendico>  all but the 3 first primarys (HWtest, rec, windows) and repeated the process with exactly same results. what is wrong? (i parted with gparted and installed trough ubuntu live usb.
[17:00] <Pici> !pamerr | jason^
[17:00] <justinx> edbian another question how do I determine which is the right swap :-#
[17:00] <Sidewinder1> roestzwii, On a desktop, it's the upper-case directly above the "enter" key.
[17:00] <roestzwii> okay
[17:00] <edbian> roestzwii: That one:  http://www.lunametrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pipeKey-150x150.png
[17:01] <roestzwii> i have a windows system and try to access to the server with putty
[17:01] <Peanut> sipior: got my new office PC today, as you might have noticed *grin*
[17:01] <jason^> Pici: yeah a bunch of my servers updated at 6am today and they all pulled down new versions of that bad package
[17:01] <edbian> justinx: Either one will work.  It does not matter
[17:01] <jebula> Does anyone else use geany and is it broken on your system as well?
[17:01] <Pici> roestzwii: On a standard US keyboard the | is shared with \ and is typically located above your enter key.
[17:01] <pushpop> edbian, I'm finiding if I clear space it gets writtent to immediately... there is something running thats constantly feeling up my hd
[17:01] <edbian> pushpop: That is very very strange.
[17:01] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how to set XChat to auto identify my nick please
[17:01] <Pici> jason^: I manually updated around that time and grabbed it too.  The bug has a workaround for restarting cron, but we'll need to wait for the package to be updated before there is a real fix.
[17:01] <rikva> I'm using a new Thinkpad Edge 13, with Intel GM45 display controller. I obviously use the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver. However the video performance is awful. Not just 3d stuff, I can't even watch a divx-video. Glxgears pfs is around 50. Any pointers?
[17:02] <roestzwii> okay, thanks
[17:03] <Dulak> eiriksvin: Xchat->network list then edit the network, there is a place to put your nickserv password there, then whenever you connect to that network it should auto auth
[17:03] <justinx> Anybody know how I know which swap to get rid of if I have two?
[17:03]  * tommylommykins waves
[17:03] <ubuntu908> waves
[17:03]  * tommylommykins is having isues with the virtual desktop resolution and fglrx
[17:03] <gaelfx> justinx: it shouldn't matter which one you nix
[17:03] <maco> justinx: if you look at /etc/fstab you can see the UUID for the one thats being used. then blkid on the various partitions on your drive should let you see which one matches that UUID
[17:03]  * _mike__ waves at tommylommykins 
[17:03] <tommylommykins> I want to set it to 3072x1152
[17:04] <tommylommykins> But I can't seem to be able to do that
[17:04] <taowa> is there any staff
[17:04] <tommylommykins> any hints?
[17:04] <justinx> huh
[17:04] <eiriksvin> Dulak thank you, testing it now:P
[17:04] <Dulak> tommylommykins: 2048 is the max width iirc
[17:04] <tommylommykins> Dulak: in fglrx?
[17:04] <tommylommykins> Dulak: How am I supposed to get my two monitors working? Is it not possible?
[17:05] <justinx> Im sorry maco how do I do that
[17:05] <Dulak> tommylommykins: I'm probably wrong I think that max width was for my crappy laptop
[17:05] <_mike__> you might try messing with xconf file
[17:06] <tommylommykins> _mike__: I have had issues finding an xorg.conf file that actually gets read
[17:06] <justinx> Where do I find Gparted its not in the software centere is it?
[17:06] <taowa> is there any ubuntu staff
[17:06] <tommylommykins> I'm under the impression that there is not necessarily always a physical xorg.conf file?
[17:06] <maco> justinx: gparted should be in software center...
[17:06] <_mike__> tommylommykins: i think now you have to issue a command that creates a xorg.conf file
[17:07] <Dulak> tommylommykins: there isn't one by default but /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be read if it exists, so you can force settings you need
[17:07] <justinx> maybe because i am running pinguy which is based on ubuntu
[17:07] <tommylommykins> Dulak: I have edited that. It seems to be ignoring what I wrote
[17:07] <maco> justinx: "cat /etc/fstab" would let you see your swap's UUID. then "sudo fdisk -l" lets you see which partitions could be your swap ones, and you can "sudo blkid /dev/sda3" (or whatever fdisk said) to find out which is the one that matches fstab
[17:07] <gaelfx> tommylommykins: no, but if you use nvidia drivers, they'll probably ask you to make one
[17:07] <taowa>  can i get a cloak
[17:07] <tommylommykins> maybe I wrote it all wrong
[17:07] <Pici> taowa: Are you an Ubuntu Member?
[17:08] <wendico> justinx: gnome partition editor in software centre is gparted
[17:08] <tommylommykins> gaelfx: I don't think nvidia drivers work on AMD/ATI hardware :(
[17:08] <justinx> I type it in and it comes up Gnome Partiion Editor and its alraedy installed
[17:08] <Dulak> tommylommykins: yeah check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:08] <taowa> i applyed  but i havent recived a response
[17:08] <_mike__> tommylommykins: did you edit it as root?
[17:08] <tommylommykins> _mike__: yes
[17:09] <maco> taowa: you have to show up to a meeting with your Regional Membership Board in #ubuntu-meeting at the scheduled time
[17:09] <tommylommykins> hmm
[17:09] <christen> Is it possible to use a second monitor and have a different workspace on the monitor?
[17:09] <tommylommykins> the log make no mention of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or 'resolution'
[17:09] <tommylommykins> :s
[17:09] <_mike__> and you placed it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:09] <tommylommykins> _mike__: Yes
[17:09] <Pici> taowa: If you just want an unaffiliated cloak, you can request in #freenode. If they told you to wait, then you need to wait.
[17:09] <maco> taowa: you'll be expected to have a wiki page detailing your contributions and some testimonials from folks who've seen the good work you do. then the board will ask you questions at the meeting and vote on whether you become a member at that time
[17:10] <arvut__> Þici...
[17:10] <tommylommykins> http://pastebin.com/1THPDY0V
[17:10] <tommylommykins> did I do anything stupid there?
[17:10] <arvut__> mïñð íf I be here? I'm high on weed.
[17:10] <tommylommykins> hmm
[17:10] <wendico> christen: as i tested u can either strech your work space to the other monitor making a bigger space or have two complete separated workspaces (with even there own panels)
[17:10] <amoe> hi all
[17:11] <_mike__> was up amoe?
[17:11] <amoe> Is there any mirrors for ancient ubuntu releases like intrepid?
[17:11] <jebula> Hi, I've been trying to launch geany as a normal user and I get a segmentation fault. I can however launch it when I issue the sudo command prior. Any ideas or help is appreciated.
[17:11] <arvut__> amoe thee shall goo-gle
[17:11] <amoe> I did
[17:11] <maco> !eol | amoe
[17:11] <arvut__> as in 'go glee'
[17:11] <Pici> amoe: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com , but you should really consider using a supported release.
[17:11] <amoe> thanks Pici
[17:12] <bolt12> is geany a IDE?
[17:12] <christen> wedico: would I need to set that up? the panels I mean?
[17:12] <Pici> arvut__: You may depart if you aren't going to be providing helpful comments.
[17:12] <maco> bolt12: yeah, for python
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> amoe: you could get the last daily alternate ISO if one exists and use that
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> bolt12: yes
[17:12] <alvin123> hi,, i`m installing xubuntu 11.04 right now alongside with windows 7.. why is it that the installing process shows no progress? and there is a dialogue in the panel saying reboot is required?
[17:12] <maco> jebula: is it possible that the first time you used it it was with sudo and now the config files for it in your ~ have wrong ownership?
[17:12] <kubanc> how do i get into grub menu if it is hidden from me?
[17:12] <wendico> christen: in my case they just appeared duplicated, then i could add or remove icons independently
[17:12] <tommylommykins> alvin123: It sounds like it's finished install ubuntu
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: hold shift at boot
[17:13] <tommylommykins> You just need to reboot to finish
[17:13] <justinx> Maco u there?
[17:13] <alvin123> why is it such that quick?
 thank you, now I just have to find a way to set a delay before auto-joining certain chans :D I'm learning Python right now, that could be a good goal (I got 2 now, 1 make a wifi signal strength meter that shows a percentage right in my top panel, then make a script that does the delayed auto-join :D )
[17:13] <christen> Okay, I'll give that a go and we'll see.
[17:13] <wendico> christen: i forgot to adviced you, i was trying with Ubuntu Classic log in, not Unity
[17:13] <maco> justinx: yup
[17:13] <justinx> Here is my paste bin I am still not sure what to remove ..take a look 0  http://pastebin.com/K88Tn89w
[17:13] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbs of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[17:13] <arvut__> oh right!!! this in not ot. Ty Þi©i, I shall Ðeparŧ! *bows and makes łeave*
[17:14] <_mike__> alvin are you using wubi?
[17:14] <wendico> christen: i do not know yet how unity behaves with two monitors
[17:14] <Dulak> eiriksvin: I posted a bug on xchat for a delay and they closed it as wontfix
[17:14] <maco> Dulak, eiriksvin: if you just want to get nickserv to identify before you join, put your nickserv password as the server password instead
[17:14] <Peanut> Ah, putting the netboot image on the USB stick has gotten me into a working installer with network. Yay.
[17:14] <alvin123> no, this is a live usb..
[17:15] <Dulak> maco mmmm thanks I'll try that
[17:15] <_mike__> then i dont know why... see if rebooting does it
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> lxde + unity2D = winning
[17:15] <Dulak> reconnecting to test
[17:16] <GhostWolf> hi all, hope someone can help me real quick, i just acquired a modem that a friend gave to me, or persay its a gateway that has wireless capabilities, im able to connect to the internet, but since lastnight i noticed that on all 3 networks im on, it disconnects with the error message network is unreachable, i just googled that info and i don't know if its my operating system or my router, or both. can anyone please help?
[17:16] <alvin123> before installing this, there is a previous xubuntu 10.10 that is upgraded and messed up by me. then i used gparted to shrink the ext partition to give up windows additional 5 gib..
[17:16] <wendico> christen: i also found out that the most bugfree configuration is just to mirror your screen (like for presentations and all that) when i really want to strech my working space and work with two monitors i always came up with strange situations (windows not remembering wich screen should appear, full screnn aps running only in main screen....)
[17:17] <christen> what if the resolution is different?
[17:17] <wendico> christen: resolution and sizes are not problem at all
[17:17] <christen> oh okay.
[17:17] <justinx> it say swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation so do I remove the swap that sda5
[17:17] <patc> hi, can someone explain me what cryptsetup is going to do if i use sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<myoptionshere> /dev/sdf instead of sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf<partition number>? I tried and it seems to be working as if the device itself was encrypted, but is this going to give specific problems?
[17:18] <christen> so I should try classic log in?
[17:18] <christen> because there seems to be this other one...that unity uses..it takes longer to reboot
[17:18] <alvin123> by the way, whats the best way to install xubuntu? install alongside or the last option?
[17:19] <unit-01> oh for love of gods! will anybody answer my question?
[17:19] <Dulak> maco: that's awesome thanks, that was bugging me badly about xchat
[17:19] <GhostWolf> well guess i'll come back
[17:20] <justinx> Wait i just got an error messg someone help.. says.  Unable to delete /dev/sda5! Please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 5
[17:21] <patc> hi, can someone explain me what cryptsetup is going to do if i use sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf instead of sudo cryptsetup luksFormat<options> /dev/sdf<partition number>? I tried and it seems to be working as if the device itself was encrypted, but is this going to give specific problems? In fact I just didn't give a specific partition number... juste the divise name...
[17:21] <justinx> I cant unmount my system can I ?
[17:21] <patc> device name*
[17:21] <justinx> Its lower than 5
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> what's the bot message for the pam error?
[17:21] <wendico> justinx: i guess so are trying to delete a partition, no, u cant unmount your system, u can only delete partitions not in use
[17:21] <Pici> MonkeyDust: !pamerr or !pamerror
[17:21] <alvin123> whats the use of 5?
[17:21] <maco> justinx: i suspect its because of it being logical, not primary. probably best to just work from a live cd
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !pamerr > MonkeyDust
[17:22] <TbHack> I wondered, what's an alternative to VIM for coding?
[17:22] <TbHack> i don't mind it being in the terminal
 true_helper = 'maco is Awesome for helping us!'
[17:22] <Pici> !!editors | TbHack
[17:22] <v_v> TbHack: emacs ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> TbHack: nano,pico, vi
[17:22] <eiriksvin> print true_helper
[17:22] <Pici> TbHack: Ands thats just a small list of them
[17:22] <justinx> Can you install gparted and put it in your boot menu
[17:22] <eiriksvin> heh
[17:23] <TbHack> ok thx guys
[17:23] <maco> justinx: you can run it from a live cd
[17:23] <wendico> justinx: you can safetly unmount and delete any partition non in use and not in front (fisically) of a partition in use. if that one is your case then u must boot from live
[17:23] <justinx> so sda5 is def the swap I need to get rid of?
[17:23] <kvirc> hi
[17:23] <kvirc> could anyone help me with a wubi problem?
[17:23] <kvirc> i installed ubuntu with wubi under windows
[17:23] <justinx> Ok gparted has live cd i just download that
[17:24] <kvirc> and the install went ok
[17:24] <kvirc> but when rebooting the bootloader doesnt show ubuntu
[17:24] <kvirc> the windows bootloader doesnt change
[17:24] <kvirc> weird
[17:24] <kvirc> since on other computers ive tried it  works
[17:24] <justinx> My computer keeps going crazy and popping up that I just installed/removed usb drive and media reader..... the notices are making me go wako!
[17:25] <wendico> justinx: you should look at the map in your partition editor, sometimes numbers of the partition (sda1, 2, 3) do not necesarilly shows if it is in front or behind of a used partition
[17:25] <eiriksvin> maco yay the server password worked for my nickserv!!
[17:25] <Growling>  /server irc.office.xs4all.nl
[17:25] <kvirc> hello?
[17:25] <eiriksvin> kvirc hi
[17:25] <wendico> justinx: con can only delete those partitions to the right of the last 'in use' partition or u can boot live and delete all disk
[17:25] <kvirc> hi
[17:26] <kvirc> did you read my problem error?
[17:26] <kvirc> this is strange wubi doesnt change the windows bootloader
[17:26] <kvirc> i cant start ubuntu
[17:26] <justinx> I have windwws installed first, then i installed ubuntu, then I got rid of ubuntu by installing pinguy over ubuntu
[17:26] <kvirc> strange
[17:26] <eiriksvin> hmm
[17:26] <kvirc> maybe its because this computer is older?
[17:27] <kvirc> it's main hd is IDE
[17:27] <justinx> now I kind of want to go back to ubuntu.. but im afraid gnome isn't ready yet
[17:27] <kvirc> i installed another one SATA
[17:27] <unit-01> I tried to increase size of Ubuntu logic drive, booted under XP, added 4 gbs of space, my Ubuntu logic drive is now 9 Gbs, but Ubuntu still complains about "54,5 Mbs free". So, how do i fix it?
[17:27] <kvirc> thats where i want to install ubunt with wubi
[17:27] <eiriksvin> kvirc no that shouldn't be a problem, I used the LIVE CD that worked for me, but idk
[17:27] <eiriksvin> kvirc sorry
[17:28] <kvirc> ok
[17:28] <kvirc> this is dissapointing
[17:28] <taowa> !cloak
[17:28] <kvirc> wubi doesnt work here
[17:28] <kvirc> anyone else know?
[17:28] <kvirc> anything i could try?
[17:28] <unit-01> kvirc - try again?
[17:28]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs,... not cloak, again.
[17:28] <kvirc> i did
[17:28] <justinx> Why do people use gnome when KDE is more polished shiny looking.  If kde had the number of programs and support as gnome does would everybody be using kde instead?
[17:29] <LjL> !ot | justinx
[17:29] <kvirc> fluxbox ftw
[17:29] <eiriksvin> kvirc try reinstalling from live cd
[17:29] <kvirc> wubi installs on the folder i tell it to
[17:29] <R1ngh10> hi, my intel 855 vga support Unity?
[17:29] <kvirc> i dont have livecd
[17:29] <kvirc> im installing from image cd
[17:29] <eiriksvin> kvirc USB?
[17:29] <kvirc> with wubi
[17:30] <kvirc> i only using wubi
[17:30] <eiriksvin> kvirc that is the live cd, do you have a disk?
[17:30] <kvirc> no, i just loaded with virtual drive
[17:31] <eiriksvin> kvirc can you use a USB?
[17:31] <christen> Is it possible to have different backgrounds for different workspaces?
[17:31] <Sidewinder1> kvirc, My advice would be to discontinue wubi; it's primary purpose is to try ubuntu. If you like it and still need windows simply install ubuntu and dual boot with win.
[17:31] <wendico> may i safetly install diferent desktop enviroments (kde, gnome, unity, flux....) on the same installation of ubuntu for test purposes? whould they live together correctly or do i need  no unistall each one to test the following?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> wendico: absolutely
[17:31] <rickey> hey guy,s i just downloaded hardysomeone told me i need to some meta  file to get all my  player and music straiten out
[17:31] <eiriksvin> christen anything is possible, but it may take a bit a work
[17:32] <LjL> wendico: they'll work, you'll just have a bit of cruft in the apps menu, and it might be tricky to remove them later
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> wendico: add as many as you can hold on your drive, you select the DE at login
[17:32] <rickey>  any of you guy know what they was talking about
[17:32] <kvirc> im not buying a CD
[17:32] <rickey>  i am very green
[17:32] <kvirc> im installing with wubi
[17:32] <christen> eiriksvin: is there anything that you can send me to show me how?
[17:32] <eiriksvin> kvirc you don't have to buy a cd
[17:32] <kvirc> then ill make a normal installation from there
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> rickey: hardy desktop is no longer supported, you can upgrade to Lucid in a single jump though
[17:32] <kvirc> im not buying cd-r
[17:32] <wendico> ActionParsnip: LjL: thank you. dont bother about then solving conflicts i will just format, is for test purposes
[17:32] <taowa> why did they discontinue shipit
[17:33] <mattk> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu from the liveusb using the terminal?
[17:33] <LjL> kvirc: uh, i don't think you can do a normal installation from wubi...? can you?
[17:33] <rs0832> kvirc, you can install virtualbox and install ubuntu frm the cd image if you want to try it
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> mattk: run ubiquity and it will install
[17:33] <sparr> How can I add "Guest Session" as an option when my screen is locked, so that other people can use my computer when I'm afk?
[17:33] <eiriksvin> christen I have never tried it myself, but i have heard of it, try google is the best option... sorry
[17:33] <donkeyinspace> hello! i have an usb pen with a "failed" ubuntu installation. when that pen is connected to the computer booting dont go beyond motherboard logo. how do i "erase" the pen?
[17:34] <christen> eiriksvin: okay, Thanks anyways! :D
[17:34] <kvirc> i need 3d
[17:34] <kvirc> no 3d in virtualbox
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> donkeyinspace: use gparted or disk manager in windows
[17:34] <pinoyoragon> Any news on the OPTIMUS issue on linux? did nvidia release a patch?
[17:34] <rickey> can you tale me how to upgrade  to lucid where do i start?
[17:34] <LjL> !upgrade | rickey
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kvirc: ther is 3d but its not brilliant
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> pinoyoragon: ive seen a project called bumblebee
[17:35] <wendico> donkeyinspace: you can easily erase and rebuild your ubuntu pen with Startup Disk Creator (default installed)
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> pinoyoragon: the omgubuntu site has a doc on it
[17:35] <mattk> ActionParsnip: this is what I get (gksudo:5606): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> !install
[17:36] <mattk> ActionParsnip: My monitor is not working. I ssh into from another computer
[17:36] <wendico> by the way, is it posible to build from a windows iso a booting pen drive of windows installation from ubuntu?
[17:36] <mattk> ActionParsnip: The GPU is dead
[17:37] <kvirc> is there a way to install with 3d that doesnt use CD/usb/anything additional?
[17:37] <kubro> LibreOffice 3.3.2 Macro Security crash on Ubuntu. Unable to enable macro's. works on windows install but not ubuntu. need help please.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> mattk: then the system would fail POST and refuse to boot
[17:38] <donkeyinspace> wendico , thanks , procedure wasn t very clear but i guess it worked
[17:39] <mattk> ActionParsnip: Well something isn't right. I can't see the motherboard post, can see the little ubuntu load screen with the dots and get into a terminal but that's it
[17:39] <mattk> ActionParsnip: blindly got xp working and could remote into it
[17:40] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:40] <Peanut> Meh.. can it be that an Ubuntu archive is out of date with itself? Installation is trying to find libpam0g_1.1.202ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb, but only the %8.1_amd64.deb and %9amd_64.deb exist on the mirror.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> mattk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[17:41] <Pici> !pamerr | Peanut
[17:41] <Peanut> ubottu: thanks, that's exactly my problem.
[17:41] <Peanut> That bot is scary clever at times.
[17:41] <Pici> Peanut: Only when we teach it clever things.
[17:41] <mattk> ActionParsnip: Thank you. I'll give it a shot. People were telling me I couldn't do this type of install from the liveusb but it's the only one that works for me so far.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> mattk: the deb is: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.32_all.deb   not the one in the guide
[17:43] <bayazid> hi
[17:43] <mattk> ActionParsnip: I can't use the liveusb?
[17:43] <bayazid> i dont know
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> mattk: sure you can
[17:44] <mattk> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[17:45] <trufa> I change the time of the system and it goes back to the old time
[17:46] <bayazid> I have a VAIO labtop and i installed the linux OS aside windows 7 then my hard drive teperature goes up to 50 C then i appreciate any help or advice?
[17:46] <trufa> I already set the time to my local zone
[17:46] <trufa> I have ubuntu 10.10
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> !botsnack > Peanut
[17:48] <Peanut> Err... thanks, Sidewinder1 ?
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> Peanut, :-)
[17:49] <oCean> !nickspam | XuMuK
[17:49] <trufa> I set the system time and it goes back to the way it was, any idea?
[17:49] <rawfodog> hi guys
[17:50] <llutz> trufa: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
[17:50] <bayazid> hiegh hard drive temperature?
[17:51] <kaisa> fuck
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy
[17:51] <oCean> kaisa: don't
[17:51] <compdoc> bayazid, 50c isnt horrible, but its warmer than I would like
[17:52] <bayazid> height tnxcompdoc
[17:52] <trufa> llutz: thanks
[17:53] <compdoc> you can get lower temps using a drive that only runs 5400 or 5900 rpm
[17:53] <bayazid> how can get this driver
[17:53] <bayazid> ?
[17:53] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do i fix this,  perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[17:53] <sw0rdfish> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:   LANGUAGE = (unset),  LC_ALL = (unset),  	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"     are supported and installed on your system.  perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[17:54] <Dulak> you can also stick a 120mm fan in the case directly pointing at your drives, I have that setup for a raid 5 box and it cut like 12C off the drive temps
[17:54] <sloucher> How do you upgrade older distribution. I'm on 9.04 and I want to get to 10.04 eventually.
[17:55] <KM0201> !eol | sloucher
[17:55] <bayazid> tnx Dulak
[17:55] <sloucher> ty KM0201
[17:55] <gratnam11> can some one tell me how to wipe out my entire hardrive
[17:55] <bayazid> but i have a labtop ?
[17:55] <gratnam11> how do i see the installed hard drive
[17:55] <Dr_Willis|2> sw0rdfish:  its just a warning so not critical - i looked it up once on the forums and had to do some command to remove the warning.
[17:56] <Dr_Willis|2> gratnam11:  sudo fdisk -l  shows all seen disks.
[17:56] <alvin_> hello buddies,, i'm running a fresh install xubuntu 11.04 and i ccan't play mp3 files it says>> #debian-offtopic | wheezy/sid: #debian-next | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ
[17:56] <alvin_> * Topic for #debian set by themill!~stuart@themill.user.oftc.net at Tue May 10 00:50:44 2011
 Just explain your problem
[17:56] <alvin_> * ich (~ich@p57937CF6.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #debian
[17:56] <alvin_> * ich has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:56] <gratnam11> ok thanks
[17:56] <FloodBot1> alvin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:56] <alvin_> * jthomas has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis|2> gratnam11:  what are you going to do with the HD later?
 hello there,, i can`t play mp3 files it says >> Playing error : Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 135.
[17:56] <KM0201> sloucher: it might be faster to just backup data and clean install 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04
[17:56] <sw0rdfish> Dr_Willis|2, so its not important that LC=ALL is not set to anything
[17:56] <wendico> sloucher: with the Update Manager. Remember to check in the Settings of the Update Manager, under the Updates tab to check wich Release Upgrade do you want Ubuntu to show you.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> sw0rdfish:  it supposed to be your language i recall. so error messges get to be the right language.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> !mp3 | alvin_
[17:57] <Dr_Willis|2> alvin_:  thers some gstreamer packatges you need to install but i dont know their names.
[17:58] <alvin_> hey Dr_willis , what am i going to do?
[17:58] <wendico> sloucher: Under that setting, choose "Normal Releases" instead of Long Term Support if you want to upgrade to the latest (less stable) version of ubuntu
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras as well as w32codecs from the medibuntu repo
[17:59] <KM0201> xubuntu-restricted-extras, should more than cover mots multimedia stuff..
[17:59] <wendico> sloucher: Close your options and click "Check" for updates. On the top you will have and advice to fully upgrade your version of ubuntu
[17:59] <sw0rdfish> how do i install the files for my locale
[17:59] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: how will i do that? sorry for my beeing noobie
[17:59] <eyeris> I am new to ubuntu (coming from vanilla debian). gvim isn't showing the gui menu. How can I enable it?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: use software centre like you did all the other software you installed
[18:00] <KM0201> alvin_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras     watch in awe, then play mp3's
[18:00] <Dr_Willis|2> !locale
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: are you running xubuntu?
[18:00] <alvin_> yes,, xubuntu 11.04
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: then use xubuntu-restricted-extras as KM0201said
[18:01] <alvin_> ahh, by the way i'm running an install update, i'll do it later after the terminal finished that
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: indeed, only one app accessing the packages at any time
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> !away > Yuzu-Zzz
[18:02] <phox_> In general, does Ati or Nvidia have better support in Ubuntu? I'm thinking of buying a laptop.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> phox_: nvidia have been doing it a lot longer
[18:03] <Dr_Willis|2> I wuld also go with Nvidia
[18:03] <KM0201> nvidia, definitely
[18:03] <phox_> Dr_Willis and Actionparsnip: Ok, thx. GeForce 310M will probably be the graphics card.
[18:03] <Dr_Willis|2> Theres a few laptop review sites that rank the nvidia gpus out. I printed the list from their site. and got the best card i could for the ###
[18:03] <KM0201> phox_: but some newer nvidia devices have been problematic w/ Ubuntu.
[18:03] <alvin_> can i knw what distro are you using ActionPars/
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> phox_: I use a 6150 onboard POS and its great
[18:04] <phox_> Okey guys! Thanx, sounds like I definitely should go with nvidia =)
[18:05] <Dr_Willis|2> nvidia laptops can be harder to find
[18:05] <KM0201> unfortunately
[18:05] <KM0201> most of them seem to be intel or ati
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis|2: not with ion existing ;)
[18:05] <Dulak> a lot of the gaming laptops use ati, which is totally hit or miss for working well in linux
[18:05] <raymondjtoth2> !past
[18:05] <Parameter> !past
[18:05] <raymondjtoth2> !text
[18:06] <Parameter> !help
[18:06] <Dr_Willis|2> ive not heard a lot of good things about ION.. yet..
[18:06] <Parameter> !help
[18:06] <oCean> Parameter: stop that please
[18:06] <raymondjtoth2> how i do the past text in here for got how its by url
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Parameter: what is wrong?
[18:06] <Parameter> okay
[18:06] <Dr_Willis|2> My Gaming laptop has Nvidia :) and 2 hard drives..
[18:06] <Parameter> I was just trying the command
[18:06] <oCean> !msgthebot | Parameter raymondjtoth2
[18:06] <Parameter> nothing is wrong
[18:06] <Neilio_> Hi All, can any one spare a few mins to help out a newbie with an install problem with ubuntu server
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: ask away
[18:07] <Hexxeh> Just put a new SSD in my Macbook Pro for Ubuntu, trying to boot from the Ubuntu CD just gives a black screen and the laptop ejects the disc automatically, any ideas?
[18:07] <raymondjtoth2> ?
[18:07] <raymondjtoth2> how i past text in here
[18:07] <oCean> !paste | raymondjtoth2
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> raymondjtoth2: single lines, jst go for it
[18:07] <rawfodog> whats up with my ubuntu guest not wanting to run the new windows manager in virtual box ?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: try the boot option: nomodeset
[18:08] <Neilio_> Thanks ActionParsnip, I keep getting an error when its installing kernel package linux-generic-pae....  Im afraid im from the school of windows point and click so having a steep learning curve.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: did you enable 3D accelleration?
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: I'm not even getting that far, if I put the disc in, reboot I get a constant black screen and the disc gets ejected
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: Not getting to a grub prompt or anything
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: did you MD5 test the ISO you burned?
[18:08] <amirshal> does anyone here uses Likewise?
[18:08] <rawfodog> yes
[18:08] <Hexxeh> ActionParsnip: yep and verified disc burn
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: cool, well I have zero experience of max as my sense outweighs my cash
[18:09] <Dr_Willis|2> rawfodog:  vbox  needs a newer verson to properly handle the 3d stuff needed by unity. You can install and use unity2d if you wanted
[18:09] <amirshal> I'm having a problem that i belive is likewise related
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Hexxeh: maybe others can advise
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: what is the error you get?
[18:09] <rawfodog> oh sweet
[18:09] <rawfodog> Maybe I'll get the new vbox too
[18:09] <rawfodog> (think mine is older)
[18:10] <amirshal> i'm also using a firewall that does a integration with the AD
[18:10] <Dr_Willis|2> rawfodog:  at least thats what i have jheard
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rawfodog: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/unity-2d-qt-now-available-in-ppa-for.html
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> i use unity2d, its sweet
[18:11] <rawfodog> nice. Thanks for the link :D
[18:11] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  and if you use compiz git  it works way better with unity2d than Unity itself :)
[18:11] <amirshal> but when i try to access the internet it doesnt work well becuase the firewell doesnt recognize the client
[18:11] <Neilio_> "an error was returned while trying to install the Kernel into the target system" Kernel Package 'Linux-generic-pae' Check /ver/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for details
[18:11] <amirshal> any ideas?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> coz_: i use openbox ;)
[18:12] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ooo  well thats also cool :)  but I still like compiz :)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> coz_: compiz can jump off a bridge
[18:12] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ooo I am a little offended :)  although I know not everyone like it :)
[18:13] <frackle> compiss
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> true, cant please everyone
[18:13] <canthus13> Is anyone else having issues with Lucid updates?  I keep having 404 errors... My wife's laptop had issues with the kernel update...
[18:13] <KM0201> coz_: thats why choice is a beautiful thing... i prefer lxde
[18:14] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr | canthus13
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: do they concern pam?
[18:14]  * ActionParsnip hopes his wife is called pam, that'd be classic
[18:14] <coz_> KM0201,  absolutely ,, and if it were not for my loyalties to compiz and cairo dock I probably would swtich  because I refuse to use gnome3
[18:14] <canthus13> That... and the kernel update keeps deselecting.
[18:14] <compdoc> FOUNDER Linus Torvalds has incremented the Linux version number to 3.0.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: see the link above
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: source please..
[18:15] <canthus13> ..On this machine, anyway. on her machine, it locked up updates and I hada  helluva time getting it to boot.
[18:15] <canthus13> ActionParsnip: I see.. :)
[18:15] <osse> Where is the "cache" of background images stored?
[18:15] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, I'm gonna' wait a day or two 'til they get it fixed.
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: found it :)
[18:15] <root____> hello
[18:15] <wendico> ActionParsnip: do ubuntu apps depend on the desktop enviroment? i have to run different app or different build of the app for a different desktop enviroment?
[18:15] <KM0201> wendico: very rarely
[18:16] <canthus13> Sidewinder1: I will now.  Wife's laptop kept dropping to the initramfs prompt.. I had to boot with a live CD and change the grub timeout (in an attempt to switch kernels), but rather than giving me the grub menu, it booted into recovery mode. go figure.
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wendico: they may depend on the library, kde uses Qt and Gnome uses Gtk. If an app is designed to use Qt and you don't have it then you willpull it in and bloat your OS some
[18:16] <compdoc> ActionParsnip, seems there's nothing all that new
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wendico: you can run Gnome apps in KDE and viceversa, and all the other desktops can run the other apps fine
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   cvw-a programaths vishwa CannedCorn raven lousygarua blamar bbartek root____ rauhfasertapete Kosava martiner5 Guybrush88 roasted debsan drMike fserb littlebearz haw
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   Darwin4Ever BlouBlou amorphous1 zatan thugzclub candrea jfbouchard coz_ gratnam11 t4k3sh1 dsathe MadViking alvin_ LibreMan stbain engled sloucher zul__ Russ fxhp ho
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   Paddy_NI bil21al scensis1 rfolco leitaox c2tarun mimor RobinJ johnzorn development rgr marve mattk pdtpatrick Ericounet [THC]AcidRain eiriksvin braiam anuvrat kvirc
[18:17] <cvw-a> [** | NOTICE | **]  ON JUNE 1ST YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO CONNECT TO FREENODE, UNLESS YOU ARE USING SASL! IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SETUP SASL ON YOUR ACCOUNT, PLEASE JOIN #FREENODE NOW AND ASK ONE OF OUR STAFFERS HOW TO DO IT OR MESSAGE LoRez WITH ANY QUESTIONS/CONCERNS. THANKYOU!  [** | NOTICE | **]   frawgh Wally jebula Neo_Kipling mackep guntbert pLk christiankm-lap Mony Technoviking taowa dkim1987 Barridus nullvariable oski Ivan_The_Terribl carlito x1sc0 multi
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: its a big jump in versioning though
[18:17] <canthus13> ...? what was *THAT* all about?
[18:17] <wendico> is that SASL notice true?
[18:17] <LjL> spam
[18:17] <LjL> not true
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> canthus13: some idiot
[18:17] <wendico> ty
[18:17] <programaths> Hi and bye ;)
[18:17] <canthus13> thought so... can't imagine a freenode notice via spambot...
[18:17] <RobinJ> is what cvw-a says true or is it just a fcking spambot?
[18:18] <alvin_> hey guys, don't you know that ActionParsnip and Dr_Willis are the best in here!
[18:18] <LjL> RobinJ: read what i said above please
[18:18] <root____> i'm facing a bug with grub, just installed ubuntu 11 and it gives me out of range error, and startup manager can't find the grub configuration file, any thoughts?
[18:18] <RobinJ> ah ok xD
[18:18] <RobinJ> then why hasnt that creep been kicked yet? I've see nthis crap a few times now
[18:18] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, After reading about your situation, it's the first time I'm actually glad my better-half is a die-hard winbloze person and won't allow me to put ubuntu on her box. Fine honey you deal with it.
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Is that legit.. about the SASL?
[18:18] <LjL> N O
[18:18] <RobinJ> *banned
[18:18] <LjL> it's SPAM
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> ah
[18:19] <Paddy_NI> annoying
[18:19] <BlouBlou> stop talking about it
[18:19] <frackle> SASL?
[18:19]  * Sidewinder1 Never started
[18:20] <Sidewinder1> Oops
[18:20] <HelloWorld321> Should I be worried if my ubuntu-box has been stuck for 10 minutes at  Update Manager > Applying changes > Running dpkg ?
[18:20] <wendico> why kubuntu, xubuntu and ubuntu have different "Restricted extras" packages if i want to test all enviroments, do i need to install all 3 restrictred extras packages?
[18:21] <root____> does anyone know how to change the grub resolution from the live cd?
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr | HelloWorld321
[18:21] <LjL> HelloWorld321: maybe. can you open the terminal window for it (i don't remember if the update manager allows you to) and see what's going on?
[18:22] <christen> Why does ubuntu log off by itself?
[18:22] <Sidewinder1> LjL, I would imagine that the pamerror is wreaking havoc on all of the servers with folks trying to re-update etc. etc.
[18:23] <alvin_> Actionparsnip: is it normal that after runnning sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras is showing the EULA with blue background,, it's taking too long damn
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: yes, use tab and enter to accept it
[18:24] <wendico> christen: i've senn ubuntu to log off it self as a result of a grapic conflict, (especially when non rebooting after making changes in your graphics driver)
[18:24] <alvin_> what the hell, i'm waiting for it to finish by itself! XD
[18:25] <christen> wendico: so it's because of my graphics? Would it be because I set it so that there are different background wallpapers for different workspaces?
[18:25] <g3h0d> hmm
[18:25] <root____> i need a tip on this, the grub screen says "out of range"
[18:26] <wendico> christen: if your are messing with your graphics, ill give u a tip that helped me many times, if ur desktop enviroment gets freezed and u cant do nothing, you can easy reboot hitting Ctrl+Alt-F1 (console), log in (your user, intro, password, intro) then the command 'sudo reboot', password and enter. Im sure this can be very helpfull when learning lol
[18:26] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: what does the xubuntu-restricted
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> root____: running irc clients as root isn't smart
[18:27] <coz_> root____,  when you boot,, hold down left shift for grub menu,,, then hit  "e" keyboard key to edit the kernel boot stanza , put in  nomodeset  just before quiet splash   ,, see if that works
[18:27] <alvin_> -areas contain and what for?
[18:27] <xskydevilx> How to I play QuickTime videos (on Google Chrome let's say)?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: they contain nonfree codecs
[18:27] <christen> wendico: thanks
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: ive found w32codecs sorts that
[18:28] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: ah see, thats why they are resticted? will i be able to run my mp3's after installing that?
[18:28] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: How do I install it?
[18:29] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Yes
[18:29] <root____> ok coz i-ll try that thanks
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: they arent open source
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: you will be able to play MP3 after the package installs
[18:30] <friskd> Is there anything i need to configure on my server so that it can be pinged?
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, I tried to answer but people "have ears only for you". :-)
[18:31] <wendico> sorry i disconnected when asking this and i dont know the response, do i have to install all the restricted extra packages of kubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu if i want to test all 3 enviroments?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: guess i'm special
[18:31] <phox_> friskd: If it has an internet connection then you should be able to ping it.
[18:31] <taowa> how do i change my nick
[18:31] <alvin_> WOW! all of you are such a good help! are you "dedicated" in this channel? meaning you are maintaining this as a permanent techsupport persons?
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> !volunteers | alvin_
[18:32] <friskd> phox_: so then how is it that my server : www.catalystforthought.org  the site loads.
[18:32] <friskd> but if i try to ping it it
[18:32] <phox_> taowa: Do you mean on IRC? Then "/nick newnickname".
[18:32] <friskd> i see it trying to get to the correct ip: 50.57.74.143
[18:32] <friskd> but there is no response.
[18:33] <friskd> just timeouts
[18:33] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, We thoroughly enjoy assisting others in discovering the wonders of FOSS an Ubuntu...
[18:33] <g3h0d> hmm
[18:34] <phox_> friskd: I timed out when I tried to ping 50.57.74.143, weird. I couldn't ping the name web adress either.
[18:34] <alvin_> ah, now i know, you are the goodwill hearted, yeah you're right, helping others is such a fulfilling deed
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> phox_: are you blockingicmp?
[18:34] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, It can be quite rewarding and more often than not, a challenge.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: helps you learn the OS too
[18:35] <phox_> actionparsnip: I have absolutely no idea what that is, so probably no. I just wanted to help friskd to see if I could ping his website :P
[18:35] <friskd> phox_: but if you try to ping www.catalystforthought.org you see that its trying to go to 50.57.74.143 right?
[18:35] <friskd> and of course if you go to www.catalystforthought.org it loads....
[18:35] <_felix> hi, i'm getting this  http://pastebin.com/9PEjNpiA after upgrading to natty.  i googled all of the warnings and errors but i can't find anything to resolve it. anyone an idea?
[18:35] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, There is that! But that would be selfish... ;-)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> phox_: ping uses the ICMP protocol, http requests use TCP. If you are blocking ICMP then ping will fail, even though the site appears as tCP is flowing as expected
[18:36] <alvin_> uhuh, can i ask you if how long since you've used linux?
[18:36] <phox_> friskd: Yes, the website itself works.. and see what actionparsnip just wrote.
[18:37] <phox_> alvin: how long since I used it? :P I acctually use it right now.
[18:37] <mkquist> anyone know the difference between ubuntu and mint for wireless?
[18:37] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Since 2007, Gutsy Gibbon
[18:37] <alvin_> no not you phox_ XD.. it's for ActionPasrsnip and Sidewinder1
[18:38] <friskd> ActionParsnip: so do i need to add icmp to my iptables
[18:38] <phox_> alvin, it was a word play joke.. never mind. whatevs
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> friskd: i'd check what your rules currently do with icmp
[18:38] <canthus13> Sidewinder1: :)  She's pretty gung-ho about Linux. My wife would very likely kill me in my sleep if I put windows on her machine.
[18:39] <alvin_> wow pretty old XD, i'm new in linux because i hate MS.. too gready!
[18:39] <friskd> ActionParsnip: nothing at the moment...
[18:39] <wendico> if i mark for install xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal, how do i install both?
[18:39] <lacus> Anyone able to mount iPhone 4.2.6 on Natty
[18:39] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, One of the tricks is to first ONLY learn "what you need to know" to accomplish whatever... then continue with what interests you...
[18:39] <lacus> I get: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[18:40] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, Mine too! THe killing part, that is.
[18:40] <_felix> wendico: have you tried installing xfce4 packages instead of xubuntu-desktop?
[18:40] <Peanut> The new and improved libpam packages are already on the main Ubuntu archive server. Does anyone know how long it'll be before they hit the Dutch mirror?
[18:40] <wendico> no _felix, it is easy to identify those packages for a noob in synaptic or should i search online wich packages to install?
[18:41] <_felix> wendico: search for xfce4
[18:41] <wendico> _felix: ty
[18:41] <_felix> wendico: in synaptic
[18:41] <Sidewinder1> canthus13, Mine loves Win, :-( and cringes at the mention of ubuntu... Shame really
[18:41] <stbain> Sidewinder1, sounds like a .gov security clearance job "need to know basis" ;)
[18:42] <alvin_> uhuh, i have tested many distros before i sticked with xubuntu.. i'm only testing the multimedia, internet, desktop customization and some tweaks..
[18:42] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[18:42] <hilarie> Anyone here know the ins and outs of "grub rescue>"
[18:43] <alvin_> now playing "Lonely Nation by Switchfoot"  thanks to ActionParsnip and all of you!
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: I boot to live CD and reinstate grub
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: np :)
[18:43] <hilarie> How do I do that ActionParsnip?
[18:44] <hilarie> I am in a live CD now
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7    use from: 2).Using Ubuntu 9.10 livecd or higher
[18:44] <wendico> xfce4 look nice, but im not looking for a nice looking enviroment, is there a even faster desktop enviroment than xfce4 (nevermind if ugly)?
[18:44] <hilarie> I'll give that a shot, thank you ActionParsnip
[18:45] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: is that the dedicated grub partition?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: how do you mean?
[18:45] <alvin_> the restoration of grub
[18:46] <friskd> ActionParsnip: after i edit my iptables, what do i need to rebooot?
[18:46] <hilarie> How can I find out which /dev/sdaX/ I need?
[18:46] <friskd> or reload?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> friskd: just restart the iptables service as far as I know
[18:47] <bkfitz> anyone use screenlets on 11.04 gnome
[18:47] <friskd> ok
[18:47] <hilarie> ActionParsnip from messing around before I got onto irc, both my 81mb filesystem(bootloader I think) and the main ubuntu filesystem, are both mounted,
[18:47] <mkquist> what does mint use for wireless detection thats different from stock ubuntu?
[18:47] <bkfitz> i'm starting to wish I stayed with 10.10
[18:48] <hilarie> but how from there can I tell which is dev/sdaX?
[18:48] <Psydoll> anyone familiar with the start up disk creator on ubuntu?
[18:48] <mkquist> using ubuntu, but mint just detects the wireless...
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Psydoll
[18:48] <bkfitz> Psydoll: yes
[18:48] <Psydoll> bkfitz i was smart enough not to go to natty
[18:48] <Psydoll> bkfitz: Can have you made a persistent live usb using it?
[18:48] <bkfitz> this Unity thing is terrible... so I switched to 'classic' which is apparently also installed and now i'm having issues
[18:49] <hilarie> Psydoli, just play with the slider, persistance is on by default
[18:49] <bkfitz> clearcalendar screenlet doesn't work, slower wifi connect, etc
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> bkfitz: report bugs to get them fixed
[18:49] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: i have another prblem, terminal can't install skype
[18:49] <Psydoll> hilarie, thank you i will im just worried incase i write to the wrong drive.
[18:49] <bkfitz> I created a 11.04 startup usb from iso and it boots to an option for live or install
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: greb the deb from skype's site
[18:50] <bkfitz> ActionParsnip: where do i report the bugs
[18:50] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: i have to Dload it manually?
[18:50] <edbian> What is a good channel to ask about making dvd's using devede  ?
[18:50] <hilarie> Live would be persistant, if you enabled that, you can check by looking for a casper-rw file from another OS to make sure
[18:50] <gratnam11> my instalation failed
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: sure, why not
[18:50] <KM0201> gratnam11: why?
[18:51] <Sidewinder1> !bugs | bkfitz
[18:51] <gratnam11> i created a custom partion
[18:51] <alvin_> ok, thakns again :D
[18:51] <bkfitz> Can someone running 11.04 try gnome and the clearcalendar screenlet
[18:51] <gratnam11> i had 2 2g swap form different drives
[18:51] <kubanc> can someone look at this image and tell me what kind of errors are they: http://img402.imageshack.us/i/20110531194717.jpg/
[18:51] <gratnam11> one 500mb /boot
[18:51] <gratnam11> and 500mb /tmp
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: wget -O skype.deb http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu32; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; rm ./skype.deb
[18:51] <Neilio_> ActionParsnip, I think I have found the problem... I just checked the MD5 on for the disk and its not right... Just writing the iso again now.  Thanks anyway.
[18:51] <KM0201> gratnam11: wtf?
[18:51] <KM0201> gratnam11: no need to reinvent the wheel, you don't need all that stuff
[18:51] <gratnam11> and i had a 1.5 or raid mounted to /
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: ok ignore that
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Neilio_: remember to always md5
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[18:52] <gratnam11> how do i do it
[18:52] <gratnam11> i am installing the server
[18:52] <gratnam11> edition
[18:52] <Neilio_> Thanks :)
[18:52] <HelloWorld321> NO ! ! !
[18:52] <Psydoll> to make a persistent live usb i need the iso and since im doing it from linux ubuntu just use the start up disk creator?
[18:52] <HelloWorld321> YES ! ! !
[18:52] <gratnam11> KM0201
[18:52] <gratnam11> can you help
[18:52] <Sidewinder1> !enter > gratnam11
[18:52] <KM0201> sorry, nope.
[18:53] <gratnam11> whats the best way to do this
[18:53] <edbian> I'm using devede to burn DVD's  I have a 720p TV and HD colorstream connection.  devede won't let me create a file that is 1280 x 720  why is this?
[18:53] <KM0201> gratnam11: best way to do it is not reinvent the wheel.
[18:53] <hilarie> Psydoll just open it up man, persistance is on by default
[18:53] <Psydoll> hilarie: thanks!
[18:53] <alvin_> ActionParsnip: wait, its included in USC, only the source is not included in the cache :D
[18:53] <gratnam11> okey
[18:53] <gratnam11> i need a raid
[18:54] <KM0201> alvin_: the version in the repos is old... iirc.. i'm not sure they keep up w/ it anymore (i always use the .deb file from skype)
[18:54] <gratnam11> can this be done with out a manual partion
[18:54] <comm_> Is there a way I can download all of my system's current packages that I have added on (say like vlc) so that I go to an apt-get /my/own/repository if I didn't have internet access
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: I've always used the skype site personally, both are fine
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> !clone | comm_
[18:55] <alvin_> i have read that the version for linux is already frozen to its last version coz skype has been bought by MS! :(
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> comm_: you can use the my-packages file to tell apt-get to only download the debs for the packages in the file
[18:55] <KM0201> alvin_: i'd say thats pretty likely.
[18:55] <tensorpudding> microsoft stated that they would continue to support non-windows versions
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> alvin_: it'll probably be supported on Linux
[18:55] <KM0201> tensorpudding: lol, and you believe that?
[18:56] <mk85> anyone able to provide some guidance on flashing the bios on HP dv6000
[18:56] <KM0201> hopefully this spurs a quality, open source alternative to skype.. most the ones available now suck.
[18:56] <tensorpudding> well, they're surely going to continue the ones for iOS and Android
[18:56] <mk85> tried a couple methods in the forums
[18:56] <mk85> and not working
[18:56] <IdleOne> KM0201: it makes sense for microsoft to continue supporting skype...why lose the potential revenue by not supporting them? anyway this is off topic
[18:56] <KM0201> mk85: why do you want to flash the bios.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: exactl, more users
[18:56] <mk85> fan goes crazy all the time and cpu runs hot
[18:56] <KM0201> i dunno... MS has never been that smart, but youre right, off topic.
[18:57] <mk85> this supposedly fixes it
[18:57] <tensorpudding> there are reports that skype for windows is now trying to install crapware
[18:57] <Sidewinder1> I don't believe it!
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> mk85: you may need to use a dos boot cd
[18:57] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[18:57] <alvin_> hahaha damn MS.. better stay away from MS.. XD whats that crapware?
[18:58] <IdleOne> !windows | alvin_
[18:58] <comm_> ActionParsnip, but that requires Internet access... basically I want to be able to have all my packages to be able to install without having to go online.
[18:59] <comm_> I mean obviously I have to go online to get them the first time. But the idea is this. I go get all the packages I like and add them on top of a default ubuntu installation. I put ubuntu on a new computer, I can install all my packages without internet access
[18:59] <bretzel> re-hi ... well, about the 13-15% cpu in idle, I am discovering Ubuntu Natty 's Unity interface and obviously the latest builds of linux tools provided by (ubuntu) - Then I really like it! usable, fun to discover. seems a bit unstable ( unity + nvidia 270.x.x / with Compiz crashed once within the last hour. dunno which part caused it.). for now I don't feel the need to wipe it ... :-)
[19:00] <cjae> update servers down?
[19:00] <kubanc> is anyone familiar with this errors: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[19:00] <sipior> kubanc: some context would be useful
[19:01] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr > cjae
[19:01] <kubanc> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615456/
[19:02] <Psydoll> I want to make sure that im writing to the correct usb drive whats the easiesst way to check that?
[19:02] <cjae> Sidewinder1: yes but there are ohter updates there as well.
[19:03] <sipior> kubanc: which version of ubuntu?
[19:03] <rpisharody> Psydoll, When you plugin your USB Drive, it will show up in fdisk -l. Just make sure you are writing to the same mountpoint
[19:03] <sipior> kubanc: this thread may be useful: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/550559
[19:03] <Psydoll> ty
[19:04] <kubanc> sipior, 10.10. I had similiar simptoms in windows 7, but i could not get any log, so i installed a better OS, ubuntu ;), and now i have these logs
[19:04] <tham> How can I connect to internet using my dongle in LXDE?
[19:04] <Sidewinder1> cjae, The servers may be somewhat over loaded with folks trying to re-update due to the pamerror...
[19:04] <DynamicFail> So I have my system setup with the packages that I like and the versions that I like. I would like to download all non standard ubuntu packages off my system into a location that I could later install them from on a new computer without internet acess. Anyway to do this?
[19:04] <alvin_> my problem with skype here in linux is that skype can't detect or utilize the built-in mic . What can you suggest about that ActionParsnip?
[19:04] <Psydoll> rpisharody: that fdisk -l command does not work on the command line
[19:04] <rpisharody> Psydoll, you might have to run it with sudo. Give elevated permissions
[19:05] <Sidewinder1> Psydoll, Did you try sudo fdisk....
[19:05] <Psydoll> no?
[19:05] <Psydoll> whats the command please?
[19:05] <Psydoll> im weak on the command line
[19:05] <rpisharody> sudo fdisk -l
[19:05] <Sean93> i need to copy my usb drive that has 3 partitions on it, one is encrypted. i need to remove everything on the drive for a few hours but then after that i want it back to normal
[19:05] <_felix> can anybody help me with: http://pastebin.com/9PEjNpiA
[19:06] <boba> my ubuntu live cd does not recognize the existing partition table
[19:06] <tham> I'm using Lubuntu. How can I connect to mobile broadband? Please help.
[19:06] <_felix> Sean93: you could try dd
[19:06] <alvin_> anyone knows how to enable the builtin mic to be detected by skype?
[19:06] <Psydoll> rpisharody: thanks that works now the problem is that i have two usb sticks connected and i need them both connected because im booted from one and im making another bootable on the other...
[19:06] <rpisharody> Sean93: Hmm... What I can think of is to image the entire USB Drive with the dd tool. Save the image. Copy it back after you are done.
[19:06] <pooky> I'm having issues with the secure servers giving me 404's when trying to download updates.
[19:06] <plum> boba: have you tried using testdisk? might need to recover your partitions
[19:07] <Sidewinder1> !pamerr > pooky
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it available in the live cd
[19:07] <pooky> Sidewinder1, thx
[19:07] <rpisharody> Psydoll: You can remove the USB which you want to make bootable and issue the command. You can compare the outputs and determine which is which
[19:07] <plum> boba: it is not found there, no, but you can find the binary here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it in hriens
[19:07] <boba> plum: is it in hirens
[19:07] <plum> boba: it needs to be run from terminal
[19:08] <plum> not sure what you mean by hirens
[19:08] <Sidewinder1> pooky, Welks.
[19:08] <alvin_> how about you mr. Sidewinder1?
[19:08] <roger21> to have something done daily systeme wide (not user wide) i just put the script /etc/cron.daily or there is something else ? and when is it run axactly ?
[19:08] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, What did I do wrong now? ;-)
[19:09] <boba> plum: its only 64 bit for linux
[19:09] <alvin_> skype ccan't detect the builtin mic..
[19:09] <_felix> roger21: 00:00 i think
[19:09] <Sean93> rpisharody, _felix, dd sounds good, exact command??
[19:09] <qin> roger21: sudo crontab -e
[19:09] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, I don't use skype or a mic...Sorry...
[19:09] <boba> plum: sorry my fault
[19:10] <alvin_> :(
[19:10] <DynamicFail> !clone
[19:10] <plum> boba: it works fine on my 32 bit ubuntu install, did you try it out?
[19:10] <rpisharody> Sean93: dd if=/dev/usb of=imagefile(where /dev/usb is your USB Drive)
[19:10] <DynamicFail> !automate
[19:11] <Sidewinder1> First place that I would look, alvin_ would be in the hardware drivers section.
[19:12] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, If I wanted to be able to install VLC on a new computer without going online, and I had the version of vlc I liked on this computer... how would I do it
[19:12] <sudokill> does the ubuntu minimal install allow u to select what packages r installed? or is it the same as standard but online?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: just hacking out some bash, gimme a sec :)
[19:12] <HarrisonF> I just upgraded to 10.04 and now when I launch gnome-terminal, it hangs before giving me a prompt -- with strace it shows it stuck in a poll loop of some sort getting EAGAIN reading a socket
[19:12] <oCean> !offline | DynamicFail
[19:12] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, If the mic works in other applications; then in Skype configuration/preferences.
[19:12] <DynamicFail> lol thanks ActionParsnip
[19:15] <osse> Where is the "cache" of background images stored? I.e. the list of the files which should be shown in the dialog box. I want to remove a whole bunch. I accidentally draged hundreds of files into it
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sudo apt-get -y install aptitude; aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages; sudo apt-get --download-only --reinstall  install $(grep vlc file.txt)
[19:16] <DynamicFail> !APTonCD
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: cheeky stuff :)
[19:16] <Shirakawasuna> Does anyone here know of/know a solution to an issue w/ guake where every tab but the first is non-transparent (opaque)?  I'm having trouble finding anything pre-2009 and their solution was also to reinstall, which I've tried.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sorry, change   grep vlc file.txt)   to  grep vlc my-packages)
[19:17] <alvin_> Sidewinder1: it's always been my problem in linux, skype can't detect the mic.. i've searched for all remedy but still ain't work
[19:17] <sparr> osse: background of what?
[19:17] <kubanc> sipior, changing from AHCI to IDE looks like this was the problem
[19:18] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, can you explain what your script does exactly before I try it? :)
[19:18] <Shirakawasuna> I of course suspect unity, but I actually like unity a lot and would prefer a workaround (or recommendation for another quake terminal.  I've tried tilda (no tabs?) and yakuake (massive kde dependencies))
[19:18] <DynamicFail> !offline
[19:18] <osse> sparr, sorry. I mean wallpapers. The list of wallpapers to choose from in Appearances is too long. I think the list of files to show there is stored somewhere.
[19:19] <Pici> Shirakawasuna: guake perhaps?
[19:19] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: There's something called "yeahconsole"
[19:19] <prabhu> hi i want to know how to remove the menu on desktop in ubuntu latest version
[19:19] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, Then it sounds like a Skype issue; perhaps direct the problem directly to "them"; the more folks that express problems might make "them" realizr where the future of computing lies: FOSS...
[19:19] <osse> sparr, I checked ~/.cache/wallpaper but that is a cache of the wallpapers themselves. The ones that have been used recently.
[19:19] <theadmin> Pici: (s)he's having trouble with guake
[19:19] <Sidewinder1> realize, too
[19:19] <Pici> theadmin: oops, I missed that.
[19:20] <alvin_> ok,, thank you so much
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> ah, it's this right here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guake/+bug/592982
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> Pici: guake is the app with the bug :)
[19:20] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: I'll check it out
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: sure, the first half makes a file with ALL the packages you have installed, the 2nd part finds all the occurrences of 'vlc' in the file and downloads the deb for that package from your repos
[19:20] <Sidewinder1> alvin_, No problem; just wish we could've found THE solution...
[19:21] <K-4U> Could somebody help me with cups and samba?
[19:21] <sparr> osse: are they listed by filename? try "locate somedistinctfilename" from a command line
[19:22] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: I just made a nice script for it, good for reinstalls as you can use local data rather than pounding the web (especially with multiple systems)
[19:22] <Shirakawasuna> I don't think yeahconsole can do tabs, theadmin
[19:23] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Seems that not, yeah
[19:23] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, where does it download it to
[19:23] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Maybe try to get the latest guake and build from source?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:24] <boba> plum: the thing is already formatted my previous ubuntu partition and now i cannot boot into an operating system, and tried to run the testdisk from the ubuntu live cd
[19:24] <oCean> osse: probably under ~/.thumbnails
[19:24] <osse> sparr, no results. Which was a good thing. If I had found them it would have meant that Ubuntu makes a copy of every single wallpaper you drag into background properties
[19:24] <DynamicFail> lol ActionParsnip does that folder already have everything I need?
[19:24] <boba> plum: i formatted it using hirens
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: how do you mean?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: that is the folder where updates go when you install them
[19:25] <plum> boba: so you are trying to recover your data?
[19:25] <boba> plum: i am trying to install a newer ubuntu
[19:25] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, oh
[19:25] <boba> plum: on the formatted previous ubuntu partion
[19:26] <osse> oCean, not there either.
[19:26] <plum> boba: gotcha, so the issue you are having is ubuntu is not seeing that partition. is that correct?
[19:26] <boba> plum: but i do not want to lose the windows partition and the data partition which are there but the ubuntu live cd does not see them
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: its ood to run:  sudo apt-get clean   occasionally to clear that cache out
[19:27] <oCean> osse: they should be. rendered thumbnails for any (most?) applications (such as an imageviewer or appearances dialogue) go there in 'normal' subdir
[19:27] <plum> boba: so you didn't touch the windows partition when you formatted, correct? if so, testdisk should be able to detect the Windows OS on there
[19:27] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: yeah, I should look into that.  I just started trying out ubuntu, so what's the best way to go about doing that properly (e.g. on archlinux I would edit a build file and let the package manager do the rest, it would all work perfectly and whenever a newer version than the one I built was released, it would auto-update)
[19:27] <osse> I can of course rephrase my question: I accidentally added too many pictures to the Backgrounds tab in Appearance Preferences. How can I remove many of them without having to select them and click Remove on by one?
[19:27] <Sidewinder1> boba, Did you try Gparted on the liveCD to see the partitions?
[19:27] <oCean> osse: I just tried, and the thumbnails appear in ~/.thumbnails/normal
[19:27] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Arch is awesome, why switch away from it? :D
[19:27] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: is there a way to let the package manager handle it in ubuntu?
[19:27] <oCean> osse: the actual background images are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[19:28] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Well, you could run "apt-get source guake", but I can't really help more
[19:28] <syockit> how do I scroll console programs like less, man, or vim using the scrollbar on gnome terminal?
[19:28] <Shirakawasuna> theadmin: I'm tired of trying to get simple thing to work... and I also want ubuntu (desktop-centric) patches.  I'm just trying ubuntu out and will be comparing it to ayatana stuff on arch :)
[19:28] <silver_hook> Hullo.
[19:28] <alvin_> can i install the ubuntu desktop here in xubuntu?
[19:28] <theadmin> Hello, silver_hook
[19:28] <boba> Sidewinder1: i did not, i tried test disk on the live cd but did not detect any other media except for the live cd
[19:28] <Shirakawasuna> it seems like the ayatana arch project is missing a few packages, e.g. a firefox that handles global appmenus
[19:29] <theadmin> alvin_: Yep, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <silver_hook> My GF is just getting a new laptop and we'll install Ubuntu on it.
[19:29] <osse> oCean, in ~/.thumbnails/normal there are over 8000 files on my system :O Yes I know where all the wallpapers are on disk, and I don't want to remove them. I only want to remove them from the list of backgrounds shown in Appearance Preferences
[19:29] <silver_hook> 32bit or 64bit and why?
[19:29] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: Mind switching to PM? It's offtopic here.
[19:29] <theadmin> silver_hook: Well, depends on the laptop, naturally
[19:29] <alvin_> how can i enable it after installation?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: what is the spec of the system?
[19:29] <everybodylies> i installed ubuntu and now i reallised that i cant play league of legends here damnit xD
[19:30] <theadmin> alvin_: Choose it on the login screen, mostly
[19:30] <Shirakawasuna> no worries, I won't bother you about arch ;)
[19:30] <armaan> cn anybody tell me ,,where cn i find the source code of remastersys
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> everybodylies: is it not in the appdb?
[19:30] <Sidewinder1> boba, If it boots to liveCD, try opening Gparted, it may see the partitions that you're looking for. From there you can reformat, shrink, etc.
[19:30] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: lol it's not bothering me at all, I'd love to talk about it
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> armaan: its on the repos
[19:30] <everybodylies> id just doenst work even with wine
[19:30] <everybodylies> Q_Q
[19:30] <oCean> osse: well, that list is generated by looking in the /usr/share/backgrounds directory. As long as the images are there, they will appear in the list. So if you don't move them out of that directory, they will be in the list of available images
[19:30] <armaan> which one
[19:31] <silver_hook> It's an HP Probook 4320s: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/2750291329/tech/prenosnik-hp-probook-4320s-24-ghz-xn571ea#tech
[19:31] <alvin_> how about the default looks of ubuntu? will it be the same 100%?
[19:31] <mdvs> ^^
[19:31] <theadmin> alvin_: Mostly. Except you'll have those apps of your other desktop present too
[19:31] <silver_hook> So, yes, it's an i5 dual-core 64bit CPU with 4 GiB of ram and ATI Radeon graphics.
[19:32] <osse> oCean, but I have added many images to that list by dragging and ropping from ~/Pictures/Wallpapers. And I can click select them in Appearance Preferences and click remove, and this will not delete the file, only remove it from the list
[19:32] <boba> Sidewinder1: the thing is i can format them using the hiren's cd, but i cannot see them during the installation of  ubuntu
[19:32] <silver_hook> Sorry, it's *exactly* this one: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/2750334428/tech/prenosnik-hp-probook-4320s-266-ghz-xn869ea#tech
[19:32] <silver_hook> (yes, OpenSuse preinstalled)
[19:32] <armaan> cn anybody tell me ,,where cn i find the source code of remastersys
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> everybodylies: could run it in a virtualbox if you use it
[19:32] <alvin_> ok, how about gnome desktop? can it be installed also?
[19:32] <Dommi> it is installed
[19:32] <oCean> osse: ah wait - now I understand :) Let me see..
[19:32] <osse> oCean, so somewhere there must be an xml or something that gives the list of files to show.
[19:32] <Dommi> you can change your gui in the log on screen
[19:32] <Dommi> alvin
[19:32] <Sidewinder1> boba: sorry, I know nothing about Hirens..
[19:32] <oCean> osse: something like that, indeed
[19:33] <alvin_> it has only two option, xfce and xubuntu session
[19:33] <boba> Sidewinder1: the thing is even i format them with gparted if they are not seen during the installation is of no use
[19:33] <osse> I could of course grep all files under various dot-directories.
[19:33] <afeijo> hi all
[19:33] <compdoc> where does postfix on ubuntu store the email address you want root's mail sent to?
[19:33] <Sidewinder1> boba, If the install does not "see" them are you sure that they're formatted ext3 or ext4?
[19:33] <oCean> osse: is it /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/ubuntu-wallpapers.xml ?
[19:34] <afeijo> I have a second harddrive in my ubuntu 11 server, I created a partition in it, now I'm trying to mount it. But I guess I need to format it first as ext4?
[19:34] <boba> Sidewinder1: gparted does not recognize them either
[19:34] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, If i understand you correctly... all I need to do is this: Step 1: Copy all files from /home/cache/apt/archives directory into /my/backup/location. Then when I get a new install of ubuntu running I simply copy all the files over to the folder and I'm set
[19:35] <oCean> osse: hmm, that doesn't seem to hold all wallpapers
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: yes, run:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:35] <alvin_> i'm quite concerned on my desktop looks to engage my friends to use linux.
[19:35] <woodt> boba: Sounds as if the partition table has been erased or is corrupt.
[19:35] <silver_hook> theadmin, ActionParsnip: Soooo, is there a reason why Ubuntu suggests i386 (i.e. 32bit) instead of 64bit?
[19:35] <osse> oCean, hooray! It's ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml
[19:35] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, I run sudo dpkg -i *.deb as step 3 to install all the repos I just copied?
[19:35] <Sidewinder1> boba, Then, I'm afraid your problem is beyond my expertise, if one could call it that....Sorry. :-(
[19:36] <oCean> osse: aha! Glad you found it :)
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: many 3rd party hardwrae  makers only make 32bit drivers
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: it installs the debs, not the repos
[19:36] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, ... eh what does that mean :/
[19:37] <osse> oCean, I'm sorry if I led you onto a wrong track earlier. It was hard to explain what I acually wanted :P
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: the files you have are debs, which can be installed on your OS,they are not repos
[19:37] <alvin_> theadmin: it says that xfce will be removed, how can i install ubuntu-desktop without removing xfce?
[19:37] <theadmin> silver_hook: A more popular architecture.
[19:37] <oCean> osse: no problem, good to hear it is solved
[19:37] <Sidewinder1> boba, You may wish to re-express your problem to ActionParsnip Pici or someone more knowledgeable than I..
[19:37] <theadmin> alvin_: Okay, that's weird, I think I'd report that as a bug
[19:38] <MrRT> Hello, I just brought life back to a machine with less then 512mb RAM. Is there any way I can get more juice out of this, is for nothing more then a toy computer...
[19:38] <boba> Sidewinder1: thanks
[19:38] <theadmin> MrRT: Openbox.
[19:38] <alvin_> he following packages will be REMOVED  libsdl1.2debian-alsa xfce4-notifyd xubuntu-desktop
[19:38] <MrRT> VM ware ???
[19:38] <boba> ActionParsnip: my ubuntu live cd does not recognize the partitions on my hard disk, i can see them with the acronis parition manager
[19:39] <silver_hook> theadmin, ActionParsnip: What's on such specs the downside of running 32bit then?
[19:39] <boba> ActionParsnip: thanks in advance
[19:39] <osse> oCean, actually it turned out to be as simple as just deleting the whole file. It gets automatically regenerated from the default file when I open Appearance Prefs again
[19:39] <MrRT> theadmin: is that Virtual box?
[19:39] <theadmin> alvin_: Well, that's perfectly okay to me. The GNOME notification daemon replaces the XFCE one, not sure what the library is, and xubuntu-desktop is a useless metapackage.
[19:39] <theadmin> MrRT: Nah, it's a desktop envioronment. A really lightweight one
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: 3Gb RAM maximum (PAE will allow 12Gb RAM but each process will be restricted to 3Gb RAM maxximum)
[19:39] <MrRT> Ok
[19:39] <oCean> osse: nice
[19:39] <MrRT> cool thanks
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: missing instructions which are in 64bit CPUs
[19:40] <Striking7> Hey everyone. I'm trying to get my network working under e17
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: I suggest you research what 64bit really is
[19:40] <Dulak> it's not useless, it's handy to turn a server install into a workstation install.
[19:40] <Striking7> I shut down the network-manager service
[19:40] <osse> It even automatically added the wallpaper I'm currently using! Nice
[19:40] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip: Right! That's a bummer.
[19:40] <Striking7> then ran iwconfig wlan0 "essid" key s:mykey
[19:40] <cfedde> Can i tell if hyperthreading is turned on for some cpu via say dmidecode?
[19:40] <Striking7> The problem is iwconfig tells me that the s:mykey is an invalid argument
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: for casual browsing, chatting, emailing then 32bit is fine
[19:41] <alt_nick> Hello. Has anyone else encountered NPEs in sun-java6's FileChannelImpl? http://leucocyte.org/~alter/fc-npe/exceptions.txt
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: if you intend to use CPU intensive stuff like SQL, video / audio encoding then 64bit helps a lot
[19:41] <Striking7> How do I get iwconfig to handle my key correctly? It's wpa2
[19:41] <woodt> cfedde:  Check /proc/cpuinfo.  If you see too many cores, hyperthreading is on.  For example, my quad core shows a total of 8 with HT on.
[19:42] <MrRT> theadmin: I wanted to add I am running Ubuntu on it now... All I can say is WOW, if I can get this faster "Way cool"
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: if your providers all provide 64bit support for your hardware then 64bit is no bad thing
[19:42] <alvin_> theadmin: if i would install ubuntu-desktop or gnome and it will remove xfce, will i be able to reinstall xfce desktop?
[19:42] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip, theadmin: OK, so it's the same as I remember :P Any examples of 3rd party software I should care about not having 64bit packages?
[19:42] <Sidewinder1> boba, Sometimes one must wait, 'til he's finished helpin' someone else.
[19:42]  * silver_hook runs Gentoo on his T400s
[19:42] <cfedde> woodt: thanks,
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: some printer manufacturers only do 32bit
[19:43] <boba> Sidewinder1: ok :)
[19:44] <markb__> ##channel
[19:44] <Sidewinder1> Shower time! It is, afterall, the fifth Tuesday in the month...Good luck all!
[19:44] <edbian> I have a video file (.avi) that is currently 1290 Kbits/sec.  I want to burn it to a DVD.  Should I choose 5000 Kbits/sec like devede defaults to?
[19:47] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip, theadmin: Adobe Flash has a  64bit plugin now? I don't use it on my box.
[19:48] <cfedde> quit
[19:48] <sparr> How can I add "Guest Session" as an option when my screen is locked, so that other people can use my computer when I'm afk?
[19:48] <BlouBlou> cfedde: /quit ?
[19:48] <Ivan_The_Terribl> Hi all. Are there any ways to alter the common gtk2 file selector, specifically the size of image thumbnails? I run opera and gtk2 file selector doesn't allow to change size of thumbnails - thumbs are very small and it's very hard to upload, for instance, a pic. I can switch opera file selector to qt, but qt works very slow on my system
[19:49] <arashrz> hi i have a question
[19:49] <arashrz> anyone can help me ?
[19:49] <theadmin> arashrz: Not until you ask it.
[19:49] <crakdmirror> arashrz: ask your question, then people can see
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> silver_hook: yes there is a ppa for it, there is also a ppa for 64bit java ;)
[19:49] <arashrz> i installed nvidia driver in one of my pc's
[19:49] <silver_hook> ActionParsnip: Sweet, thanks :]
[19:50] <arashrz> now i want to move installation file to another pc
[19:50] <arashrz> where is it ?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> arashrz: /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:52] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, I was told that dpkg has something that gives you all selected packages, iirc and also a tool to select them again. that would still break the manually/automatically installed status though. y> and thereby prevent autoremoval of unneeded packages
[19:53] <Peanut> So after installing 11.04, I get a popup saying that my hardware is not good for Unity. What it should probably say instead is that Ubuntu hasn't gotten around to installing my Nvidia drivers yet...
[19:53] <sudokill> same thing
[19:54] <dddd> \
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: not sure there dude
[19:55] <sparr> Peanut: well, more generically but more accurately, it should say that your video driver isn't good for unity
[19:55] <ojay> i cannot join #PHP channel so i will ask from here :P. if i have array[$i] <-- how i can add value inside of [] like array[$i+1] <-- that doesn't work
[19:55] <Pici> ojay: you need to register before you can join there.
[19:55] <Pici> !register | ojay
[19:57] <silver_hook> Thanks guys. Already downloading the amd64 ISO via torrent ;)
[19:57] <andro_lsv> so computer froze after it went to sleep, so I did a Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get a terminal, then I entered ' sudo service gdm restart '.  after login back in a message asked me if a want to delete sometjing, I clicked yes by mistake and now I don't have the button with the option to logout or restart or shutdown options in the panel.  what to do to fix this?
[19:57] <PHP_question>  /nick ojay
[19:57] <sudokill> andro_lsv, add the panel icon
[19:57] <sudokill> andro_lsv, right click the panle and add the icon that u deleted
[19:57] <Dulak> andro_lsv: right-click the panel and choose 'add to panel'
[19:58] <Ontolog> I want to install the maven2 package, which is a set of Java libraries and programs. However it requires gcj be installed. I actually have sun-java6-jdk installed. How can I tell maven2 that this gcj requirement is satisfied by the sun-java6-jdk package?
[19:58] <dingurt> andro_lsv:  add the Indicator applet
[19:58] <Hexxeh> getting black screen booting ubuntu 11.04 on macbook pro 5.5, tried nomodeset, not helping, anything else i can try?
[19:58] <Peanut> Hexxeh: completely black, or a blinking cursor at least?
[19:59] <arashrz> another q, why any version of linux hangs my pc after sometime ? but windows dont
[19:59] <Hexxeh> Peanut: completely black, i get some super quick kernel log scrolling first, i think it dies when trying to mount the root maybe?
[19:59] <Peanut> Hexxeh: ok, then you have another problem than I am having, sorry :-)
[20:00] <afeijo> I have a second harddrive in my ubuntu 11 server, I created a partition in it, now I'm trying to mount it. But I guess I need to format it first as ext4?
[20:00] <sudokill> afejio yes
[20:00] <andro_lsv> I tried that but the same button is not there.  there are separate applets to logout, shutdown, lock the computer..  any more ideas?
[20:00] <skrlec> how do i insall additional drivers for ubuntu 10.10
[20:01] <sudokill> choose "install additional drivers"
[20:01] <Peanut> I have just completed my install of 11.04 on a new machine, using USB+network. Worked great, but if I now reboot the system, it will not come up unless the USB stick is inserted. Seems to be some drive-renumbering issue, shouldn't GUIDs prevent that? How do I fix my grub to boot on its own?
[20:01] <silver_hook> If I install i386 Ubuntu now, can I (or rather my GF) just upgrade it to the amd64 version later on without any hassle?
[20:01] <sudokill> andro_lsv, there is a "shutdown" panel icon and another one
[20:01] <skrlec> sudokill,could you please repeat, i got disconnected
[20:01] <arobaz> hi
[20:01] <sparr> Peanut: if you aren't seeing the grub menu at all then the problem is that your BIOS isn't booting from the right drive. has nothing to do with GUIDs
[20:01] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[20:02] <xangua> silver_hook: no
[20:02] <sudokill> skrlec, what drivers do u want to install
[20:02] <arobaz> is there any french ubuntu channel plz?
[20:02] <arobaz> I need some help
[20:02] <xangua> silver_hook: if you cant 32 bit, install 32 bit, want 64, intstall 64
[20:02] <sudokill> u seem to speak nelgish
[20:02] <Peanut> sparr: good point, let me see if I can fix that.
[20:02] <Pici> !fr | arobaz
[20:02] <wilhart> oK HAS this nvidia bug twinview flickering stuff been solved yet?!?!
[20:02] <SpaceBass> I've got a new pci-e (short) card that Ive plugged into a pci express (long) port ? dmesg doesn't show a thing. Even if the drivers aren't present, is there a way to see if the hardware is recognized?
[20:03] <andro_lsv> yes, there is different apps to do different things but not like the original that had all the options
[20:03] <sudokill> SpaceBass, is it pcie x1 in a x16 slot?
[20:03] <sw0rdfish> anyone got experience with ajaxplorer?
[20:03] <Hexxeh> what's different about the +mac images here? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[20:03] <skrlec> i need drivers for  RaLink RT3090 Wireless and Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family). i've got the drivers for ralink from their website, but it a .bin file and there's no howto installation guide
[20:03] <sudokill> andro_lsv, i think its called indicator
[20:03] <theadmin> skrlec: I think you can just run that file.
[20:03] <sudokill> andro_lsv, the shutdown one is different its a red icon
[20:04] <skrlec> theadmin, form terminal with command ./
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, thats where I get confused ? the box on the card says pci express and the mobo says pci express
[20:04] <sudokill> skrlec, ah people had problems installing the ralink there was a link somewhere google it
[20:04] <wilhart> no?? anyone got flickering with nvidia?!
[20:04] <dingurt> andro_lsv:  did you put the Indicator applet up on the panel?
[20:04] <theadmin> skrlec: Yeah, basically. chmod +x blah.bin && ./blah.bin
[20:04] <wilhart> blah i'll do rm -rf \
[20:04] <sudokill> SpaceBass, a pcie x1 card will work in a x16 slot
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, the slow on the mobo is clearly longer and the card only has two short connectors
[20:04] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, take a look at this: $ sudo apt-get install dpkg-repack fakeroot
[20:04] <DynamicFail> $ mkdir ~/dpkg-repack; cd ~/dpkg-repack
[20:04] <DynamicFail> $ fakeroot -u dpkg-repack `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | cut -f1`
[20:04] <dingurt> wilhart:  you don't have a hair on your ass
[20:04] <fester77> im usually installing program thru softwaremanagment .... this time I need to locate where the actual program was installed .... anyone knows where they go?
[20:04] <sudokill> SpaceBass, yea its fine
[20:04] <SpaceBass> sudokill, does this look like pscie x1 http://www.startech.com/product/PEXESATA2-2-Port-PCI-Express-eSATA-Controller-Card
[20:05] <wilhart> dingurt: annoying hdmi tv flickers but monitor does ont i'lve tried everythign
[20:05] <sudokill> SpaceBass, yea it is x1
[20:05] <Peanut> This is using an Intel Storage raid, by the way. First device to boot is listed as the mirror-volume that I installed it on. Yet booting doesn't work unless the USB stick is there as well.
[20:05] <sudokill> SpaceBass, it will fit in any pcie slot
[20:05] <andro_lsv> sudokill:  thanks I'll try it when I get to the pc.  dingurt thanks
[20:05] <sudokill> np
[20:05] <SpaceBass> sudokill, great, I've got it in the slot but the OS doesn't seem to recognize it
[20:05] <skrlec> theadmin, bash: ./rt2860.bin: cannot execute binary file
[20:06] <xangua> fester77: the software center says where you can find them in the menu
[20:06] <dingurt> skrlec:  you have to set the executable bit
[20:06] <sudokill> SpaceBass, idk why. its not the connection not sure if u need drivers or not
[20:06] <sudokill> SpaceBass, ive never used a seprate sata card
[20:06] <skrlec> dingurt, i already did chmod +x if you are referring to this command
[20:07] <SpaceBass> sudokill, its not my preference, but apparently the onboard esata port doesn't recognize port multipliers? trying to use a drobo with linux is proving to be miserable
[20:07] <SpaceBass> sudokill, is there a command to enumerate pci connections?
[20:07] <_ohm> Compiling program from source, get the error http://pastebin.com/eY6JUi3v, any suggestions?
[20:07] <theadmin> skrlec: Sounds like you got a driver for the wrong architecture, e.g. you're trying to run 32-bit soft on a 64-bit machine or vice versa.
[20:08] <xangua> _ohm: use repositories ;)
[20:08] <Dulak> _ohm: fix your clock
[20:08] <fester77> software center?  Im using KpackageKit ... i got ubunto and installed kde ... so now it kubunto ( or ubunto + kde ..... (confused)
[20:08] <skrlec> theadmin, i have 64 bit processor and 32 bit ubuntu 10.10 OS
[20:08] <sudokill> SpaceBass try lspci see if it shows there
[20:09] <mrb> anyone tried Gnome3 on ubuntu ?!
[20:09] <xangua> !gnome3 | mrb
[20:09] <D-coy> gnome sucks. . .. pekwm rulez :P
[20:09] <theadmin> mrb: I have 2 words: don't.
[20:09] <adlight> not yet
[20:09] <justinxxx> Um I need some help
[20:09] <sudokill> not worth it im guessing
[20:09] <adlight> wait for next release
[20:10] <PHP_question> #PHP is invite only channel?
[20:10] <fester77> xangua?
[20:10] <theadmin> PHP_question: You have to register.
[20:10] <sudokill> i like gnome 3 but its not amazing
[20:10] <adlight> gnome is ok
[20:10] <mrb> okay :)
[20:10] <justinxxx> My programs are showing up either too large or they are going under the scrollbar so I cant get at the top bar
[20:10] <adlight> in my oppinion better than unity for the moment
[20:10] <sudokill> muhc better than unity imo
[20:11] <adlight> I am using it on an arch linux system
[20:11] <sudokill> gnome 3?
[20:11] <adlight> yes
[20:11] <justinxxx> My programs are showing up either too large or they are going under the scrollbar so I cant get at the top bar
[20:11] <sudokill> same :)
[20:11] <theadmin> Wow, tons of Arch users around xD
[20:11] <sudokill> i dnt even know why i go on ubuntu irc i only use arch
[20:11] <sudokill> lol
[20:11] <theadmin> justinxxx: Rephrase that, it made no sense
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> i'd say lxde was better :)
[20:11] <adlight> my wife is on that computer now :)
[20:11] <Dulak> ubuntu keeps alienating early adopters and they seem to like arch a lot
[20:11] <adlight> that is why I am here
[20:11] <adlight> on a ubuntu machine
[20:12] <adlight> running unity
[20:12] <Dulak> Hell if unity is the only option in the next LTS i'll be moving to arch myself
[20:12] <justinxxx> theadmin - My programs are showing up under the main panel in ubuntu so I cant move them or get at the menus
[20:12] <sudokill> arch really does own, but i dont wana start an argument
[20:12] <LjL> how's about we keep it about support here? #ubuntu-offtopic is waiting eagerly for all the unity/arch/etc chatter :P
[20:12] <justinxxx> Or they are too large it seems
[20:12] <theadmin> justinxxx: Ah... Hold Alt and drag the window ;)_
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Dulak: why not just install another DE?
[20:12] <compdoc> afeijo, yeah, it needs a formatted partition
[20:13] <compdoc> ooops, I was scrolled back
[20:13] <justinxxx> no its like way under the panel
[20:13] <afeijo> compdoc, what is the command?
[20:13] <justinxxx> how do i get it from hiding the top of the programs like firefox
[20:13] <compdoc> afeijo, use gparted
[20:13] <afeijo> compdoc, its a server, it does not have X
[20:13] <compdoc> ahh
[20:14] <compdoc> how large is the drive?
[20:14] <afeijo> 500gb
[20:14] <compdoc> think you can use either fdisk or parted - google em
[20:15] <justinxxx> im fuged
[20:15] <afeijo> ok
[20:15] <sudokill> afeijo, if ur not comfortable formatting using command use something like a partedmagic livecd
[20:15] <sudokill> if u can
[20:15] <afeijo> sudokill, I do want a cmd :)
[20:15] <sudokill> ok
[20:15] <jenvy> anyonw know why the install of apache on ubuntu doesn't install the latest package?  its like... 3 revisions behind
[20:15] <Dulak> ActionParsnip: I have a couple reasons but mainly because they keep removing the good stuff and replacing it with untested crap.  That doesn't fit my style.  They keep aiming at the lcd and that isn't me.
[20:15] <wilhart> hmm chould it be fault in my lcd tv? flickering on it?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> jenvy: try a ppa
[20:16] <sudokill> ubuntu progs r old
[20:16] <compdoc> wot?!!
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> !latest
[20:16] <sudokill> see ^
[20:17] <woodt> !sru
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Dulak: kde, lxde and xfce have been consistent for years
[20:17] <jenvy> ah ok
[20:17] <woodt> !ppa
[20:18] <alvin_> bye friends! :D
[20:18] <esaym153> when I log in through ssh I see the prompt as "user@name:" How do I change the "name" part? I have two machines that have the same name.. >_>
[20:18] <andro_lsv> any good books to learn Linux?  Like under-the-hood stuff.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[20:19] <llutz> esaym153: thats the hostname
[20:19] <smw> andro_lsv, depends on which part you want to learn
[20:19] <smw> andro_lsv, lfs will teach you alot about how a distro is built. There is a really good book on kernel architecture if you want to learn that.
[20:20] <Dulak> ActionParsnip: I'm not arguing that, but I ain't supporting least common denominator crap.  Like I said, I'll wait for the next LTS, but if it's as bad as it's looking from the latest, I'll be moving along.
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, or there are books on using the command line.
[20:20] <brainproxy> zsh auto-config on ubuntu 11.04 is giving me a default prompt that's split across two lines; anyone know if this is a bug?
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, and bash scripting
[20:20] <andro_lsv> yeah all that kind of stuff
[20:20] <smw> andro_lsv, what is it you are interested in?
[20:21] <llutz> esaym153: so either change the hostname to  a unique one or the PS1 var in your .bashrc
[20:21] <smw> andro_lsv, you need to tell me where you want to start ;-)
[20:21] <esaym153> llutz: fixed it, ty
[20:21] <andro_lsv> I guess right now I'm interested in using the command line
[20:22] <afeijo> mkfs! command found and used :) partition mounted, thanks guys
[20:22] <sudokill> andro_lsv, its easier if u have a goal
[20:22] <_ohm> Building program from source, getting this error http://pastebin.com/eY6JUi3v. Adjusted time and timezone to accurate conditions, still getting the error
[20:22] <smw> andro_lsv, advanced bash scripting guide is probably good. Let me look it over quickly
[20:22] <sudokill> andro_lsv, u could try installing a distro than requires command line that way ud learn easier
[20:22] <coilbucker1> You could try an arch install. It doesn't even have a window manager at first.
[20:22] <sudokill> yea arch is a good way to learn very basic things
[20:22] <smw> andro_lsv, learning the command line takes trial and error. A lot of practice.
[20:23] <Dulak> slackware is also a good learning linux
[20:23] <smw> andro_lsv, archlinux tosses you into the water to sink or swim. It has pretty good starter docs...
[20:23] <Ddpbf> sudokill: arch is also good way to delete entire hard drive
[20:23] <Ddpbf> :)
[20:23] <sudokill> andro_lsv, u'll find that as u have problems / need to do new things using linux, u'll learn how to solve them / do them along the way
[20:23] <mbnoimi> where can I request to add new software in ubuntu repositories?
[20:23] <sudokill> Ddpbf, sorry to hear that lol
[20:23] <sudokill> should be careful then :)
[20:23] <andro_lsv> I took a class about Linux but we only learned the very basic stuff.
[20:24] <sudokill> what like ls commands
[20:24] <smw> mbnoimi, chances are it will fall on deaf ears unless you package it yourself...
[20:24] <sudokill> cd
[20:24] <Schnitz> Hello guys, I try to get it short =) I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Sony Vaio Notebook (VGN-AW31S). But I only see the Ubuntu Logo + the loading indicator (for about 30 minutes Oo)
[20:24] <StevenR> Hi. I had a sftp session open through nautilus... but the network connection died. How do I make gnone consider it really gone, so I can restart it?
[20:25] <Schnitz> Any thoughts?
[20:25] <mbnoimi> smw: you mean I've to package it by myself in launchpad.net
[20:25] <gratnam11> i just installed ubuntu server
[20:25] <gratnam11> how do i setup eth1
[20:25] <sudokill> Schnitz, from a livecd?
[20:25] <jeramey> hello
[20:25] <Schnitz> Yes sudokill
[20:25] <sudokill> Schnitz, on some PC's it can take aaaaaaages to load
[20:25] <smw> mbnoimi, I think you can submit a bug as a feature request. I am not sure. But the best way to get something included is to make a package and then submit it.
[20:25] <brad_> Hello. My flash plug-in is not working and it was recently. Any thought? Did I do this, or are others having these issues too?
[20:25] <sudokill> it did on my old one
[20:26] <smw> andro_lsv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal is a good 3 second tutorial
[20:26] <Lofde> I have an IP configuration that is pretty simple, i had to set it using IFCONFIG because i have two network cards, however on reboot the system tries to auto establish connections that it detects from the dhcp server.. can someone help me set these so it stays a manual connection i also had to use 'route add gw ' to use one gateway because i dont need the other routing nic to the internet
[20:26] <smw> andro_lsv, it explains flags well
[20:26] <jeramey> I am trying out ubuntu 11.04 and I am trying to install a apt repository but there is no edit drop down in the software center
[20:26] <Schnitz> Okay, any thoughts to solve this issue? Its not a bad laptop and its only 1 month old. Maybe another installation medium?
[20:26] <gratnam11> i don't see eth0 or eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:27] <smw> andro_lsv, what you need to do is learn enough to be able to look up what you don't know.
[20:27] <sudokill> Schnitz so it's not erroring? is anything animated like red dots or whatever?
[20:27] <gratnam11> how do i see if ubuntu reconized the driver for the network interface
[20:27] <smw> andro_lsv, look at that guide and tell me what you think.
[20:27] <andro_lsv> I'll look at it.
[20:27] <sudokill> gratnam try lspci
[20:27] <Ddpbf> Schnitz: wich gpu?
[20:27] <jeramey> anyone using ubuntu 11.04?
[20:28] <Ddpbf> jeramey: most of people here ;)
[20:28] <brad_> how do
[20:28] <jeramey> there is no edit drop down in my software center
[20:28] <andro_lsv> I'll logout and login using my laptop.  see you in a bit.
[20:28] <brad_> I get adobel flash plugin to work?
[20:28] <mbnoimi> smw: damn, there is a huge gap in Winrar alternative in ubuntu I discuss it with KDE community and I found that best thing is to request to add q7z in ubutnu repository (q7z exists in openSuSE repository)... see kde discussion http://tinyurl.com/3cl3cn4
[20:28] <Schnitz> The loading indicator is working, (red & white dots), GPU = nVidia 9600M GT, CPU = Intel Core 2 Duo P8700 (running at 2x 2560MHz)
[20:29] <skrlec> can someone help me. i would like to install RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe. i found drivers on relink site, but here is the manual, and I am confused what do do with 1>, 2>, 3>, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615476/
[20:29] <sudokill> Schnitz, try rebooting with it again
[20:29] <sudokill> might have randomly locked up
[20:29] <smw> mbnoimi, what do you need winrar for?
[20:29] <lsv> smw: could you post the link again?  (ando_lsv here)
[20:29] <jeramey> trying to get to software resources to enter APT line but there is no edit drop down menu
[20:29] <Ddpbf> brad_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:29] <smw> !cli > lsv
[20:29] <sudokill> jeramey, it should be at the bottom
[20:30] <Schnitz> sudokill, already tried 2 times (I started about 4 hours ago and searching for solutions via smartphone)
[20:30] <jeramey> nothing at the bottom
[20:30] <brad_> Ddpbf, thank you.
[20:30] <lsv> smw: got it, thanks
[20:30] <gratnam11> can someone help me configure my network on ubuntu server
[20:30] <sudokill> Schnitz, I really don't know. I doubt it's a bad disc but always worth trying another one
[20:30] <sudokill> it could be anything
[20:31] <jeramey> in mint it has drop down menu's file edit etc
[20:31] <jeramey> there is non in the ubuntu software center in 11.04 for me
[20:31] <llutz> gratnam11: does "ifconfig -a" list all your interfaces? if yes, add them to /etc/network/interfaces as you like. read "man 5 interfaces" how to do it
[20:31] <mbnoimi> smw: usually in winrar the user can set compression ratio where in Ark it can't be so the user forced to use peazip or q7z where both of them not exist in ubuntu repositories
[20:32] <sudokill> jeramey, can't u just add it from terminal? idk about 11.04
[20:32] <smw> mbnoimi, are you try to make a rar file? why does it matter if you can set a compression ratio?
[20:32] <jeramey> never done it from the terminal im kinda noob
[20:32] <brad_> Ddpbf, that didnt work
[20:32] <smw> mbnoimi, also, what program do you recommend ubuntu get?
[20:32] <jeramey> should i just dump 11.04 and get 10
[20:32] <Schnitz> Okay, thank you =) I'll just continue searching
[20:33] <BKTech86> why can i suspend and hibernate in 10.04 32-bit but not in 10.10 or 11.04 ?
[20:33] <BKTech86> well I can't even install 11.04
[20:33] <BKTech86> even resorted to text-based install and it still froze on first boot up
[20:33] <mbnoimi> smw: I want to create 7z file with hightest compression (9), this can done from CLI where it can't in GUI
[20:33] <Koobalita> Hello
[20:34] <smw> mbnoimi, interesting. what program do you want to install?
[20:34] <mbnoimi> smw: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=45453
[20:34] <Koobalita> I have an Iso mounted in Ubuntu that but what do to search for packages installable on that ISO?
[20:35] <jordotech> how can i route local host to /var/www/mydir if its presently just routing to /var/www/ ?
[20:35] <Koobalita> Sorry that sentence was bad
[20:35] <BKTech86> Koobalita: navigate to the iso directory and use find ?
[20:35] <mbnoimi> smw: see this discussion too http://tinyurl.com/3cl3cn4
[20:35] <Schnitz> sudokill, maybe the "Alternate CD" is worth a try?
[20:35] <Koobalita> Bk will it show packages?
[20:35] <brad_> I just ran sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, and flash still doesnt work. Any thoughts?
[20:35] <Koobalita> i mean it will clarify what the packages are
[20:36] <BKTech86> Koobalita: i duno about that I'm not entirely sure what you're searching for, but cant you just do find . -iname '*.deb' ?
[20:36] <wilhart> soo anyone ?? "nvidia playback flickering"? ??
[20:36] <llutz> jordotech: set correct document-root in your site-config
[20:36] <xangua> brad_: restart the browser
[20:36] <jeramey> Ok I found it! when you open a window apparently it puts the drop down menus at the Very top of your screen (toolbar) instead of the top of the window
[20:36] <Koobalita> ok let me try that
[20:36] <brad_> xangua, I tried that.
[20:37] <spm-Draget> Can anyone edit this wiki page for me, I do nto have an account: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 . The suggested variables have changed months ago (renamed), for example enabling recovery or UUID is without _LINUX_ in the variable name. The current reference is: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration . Could anyone do this or at least check for someone else correcting it for me? Thanks.
[20:37] <sudokill> Schnitz, its worth a try
[20:37] <smw> mbnoimi, I guess you should file a bug. I think when you file a bug you can mark it as an enhancement. However, I think it is unlikely someone will take it :-\
[20:38] <brad_> braiam__,  how do I change my screen name here like you just did?
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, or, you can file a bug with ark upstream...
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, that is more likely to be handled ;-)
[20:38] <braiam__> brad_: /nick newnick
[20:38] <spm-Draget> Or anyone just adding a note that links to the original documentation and that the example values are wrong, so people do not fall for the same trap!
[20:38] <mbnoimi> smw: yes, thanks for suggestion
[20:38] <Koobalita> ok KB I have an ISO on my desktop I want to search through nad see what packages are available for me to install
[20:38] <smw> mbnoimi, you can also make your own then go into the ubuntu dev channel and ask for someone to review/submit it. Sort of a mentorship thing.
[20:39] <Koobalita> Thats the question
[20:39] <smw> mbnoimi, they tend to like to do that ;-)
[20:39] <phox_>  Unity has gone balls out and won't return from its hiding place. How do I restart it?
[20:39] <jordotech> llutz do you mean my configuration under sites-available?
[20:39] <llutz> jordotech: sites-enablesd
[20:39] <llutz> jordotech: sites-enabled
[20:39] <smw> mbnoimi, or you just compile by source and not try... but it helps the community when you fix it for everyone :-D
[20:39] <jordotech> its set to /var/www/mydir
[20:40] <mbnoimi> smw: unfortunately I don't have any experience in building deb packages.... I read tons of resource but I found them very compicated
[20:40] <jordotech> llutz, ya, its set to /var/www/mydir and i've restarted apache
[20:40] <chull> my husband has a new Logitec Trackball M570 .. and Ubuntu 10.10 .. is it supposed to work?
[20:40] <brad_> : /Brad_ Trfsrfr
[20:40] <smw> mbnoimi, it is far too complicated... arch packages are so much easier :-P
[20:40] <jordotech> but i still have to put 'localhost/mydir' to get there
[20:41] <ArtemM> After wake up notebook swaps really bad - iotop says that most of the time was used by kswapd0 and it swaps already for about hour.  Any idea what could be the cause? Top says that there is free ram and swap space and now it became almost unresponsive
[20:41] <smw> mbnoimi, I have made rpms, debs, and arch linux packages. But I have too many projects on my plate to help with this :-\
[20:41] <Dulak> mbnoimi: they are just archives with a special directory and files in that directory that do things when you install the package.  It's like a zip file with scripts that run automatically when you install it
[20:41] <arleslie> Hey guys, I'm having an odd flanger-type sound being mixed with my line-in audio. This didn't happen before I started using my line-in, and my line-in worked perfectly fine on Windows, any idea on how to fix this?
[20:43] <smw> mbnoimi, Dulak is correct. They are just compressed tar files (I don't believe they use gz for compression anymore)
[20:43] <Trfsrfr> xangua, Where do my browser pages minimize to? I tried to reload the browser, but im not sure i ever closed it
[20:43] <Koobalita> Q: If you had an ISO on your desktop that had some software u wanted out of it but not the whole ISO how can u search what programs are on the ISO?
[20:44] <coilbucker> You could mount the iso maybe.
[20:44] <gratnam11> can some one refer to a guide how to setup a software raid
[20:44] <Koobalita> it is mounted but nowhere does it say programs
[20:44] <smw> !raid | gratnam11
[20:44] <sudokill> Koobalita, what iso is it
[20:45] <smw> Koobalita, we have no way to know how the iso is setup. So we can't list the programs on it ;-)
[20:45] <Koobalita> RRAbuntu-v1.13.iso
[20:45] <chull> <-- chalcedony can anyone help with getting ubuntu 10.10 to see my husband's new trackball? it's a Logitec Trackball M570
[20:46] <smw> Koobalita, is there a folder called "pool"?
[20:46] <subcool> Does anyone know if Boost mobile support HSDPA?
[20:46] <Koobalita> Yes!
[20:46] <Trfsrfr> running 11.04, cannot find my browser after I minimize it. Where does it go?
[20:46] <smw> Koobalita, you may want to look in there ;-)
[20:46] <sudokill> into the 11.04 black hole of doom
[20:46] <Koobalita> then two directiories main and restricted
[20:46] <kdk995509383kkdd> how do i put this into a working script: 'unrar e ´whatever file user types, after this script is run´'
[20:46] <smw> Koobalita, both contain programs
[20:46] <chull> Trfsrfr: try in command line: top .. do you see it?
[20:46] <Koobalita> ok i am basically lookng for rivendell
[20:46] <smw> Koobalita, restricted contains "non-free" software
[20:47] <phox_> kdk987987897kkdd: try #bash
[20:47] <smw> Koobalita, free as in speech
[20:47] <Trfsrfr> chull, I dont see it anywhere
[20:47] <Koobalita> ahh debian packages i see
[20:47] <mbnoimi> Dulak: I know debs are archives but they contains on special scripts which make some things in back ground which is make them complicated for me (I accustomed to installjammer or NSIS scripts where)
[20:47] <Koobalita> now i dance the happy dance
[20:47] <chull> Trfsrfr: then it's probably not running, do you have icons in your bar at the bottom of the screen?
[20:47] <smw> Koobalita, :-)
[20:48] <alex^> i upgraded a few servers from 10.10 to 11.04 some time ago, and noticing now that /var/log/messages is not getting written to any longer .. does anyone have any idea of why?
[20:48] <Trfsrfr> chull, I do see it now. it says its running in terminal, but I dont see it
[20:48] <gratnam11> softwware raid can only be done during instatlationg of os?
[20:48] <Koobalita> been trying to find a decent radio station automation software for Ubuntu
[20:48] <sudokill> alex^ i think var log messages has gone
[20:48] <Koobalita> TY Smw:
[20:49] <Koobalita> U Get Star
[20:49] <sudokill> alex^ when i tried 11.04 clean install there was no such thing as var log messages
[20:49] <Koobalita> haha u answered the impossible questin :D
[20:49] <chull> Trfsrfr: type 'k' and then the process number, and the number it says, and it should kill the process
[20:49] <mbnoimi> Dulak, smw: installjammer or NSIS has some wizard help the user to build the installer in easiest way, while I couldn't find any tool for debs
[20:49] <Eitna|> hey guys
[20:49] <alex^> sudokill, really .. strange .. i shall consult the google
[20:49] <smw> gratnam11, it is the easiest time to do it... yes
[20:49] <kdk995509383kkdd> phox_: i have done some bash scripting. but how do i put it, that after i ran the script it should ask me what file to extract, then ill type in the file
[20:49] <Eitna|> i got 10 computers with exact same software
[20:49] <smw> Koobalita, yw
[20:49] <sudokill> alex^ it has gone, lots of other people also said it
[20:49] <gratnam11> i have two 1.5 tbs
[20:49] <Eitna|> wanna put ubuntu on it... is there some imaging software u guys may recommend to just copy the drives so i dont have to go through 10 individuals set ups
[20:49] <chull> <-- chalcedony can anyone help with getting ubuntu 10.10 to see my husband's new trackball? it's a Logitec Trackball M570
[20:49] <sudokill> alex^ im not sure what the alternative log file is now
[20:49] <Koobalita> Linux isnt as easy as windows is for me even with Ubuntu :D
[20:49] <Trfsrfr> chull, thats cool, and thank you. But I am more looking to figure out how to retrieve it, not close it.
[20:50] <gratnam11> i tried to create a seperate partion for /boot and do raid
[20:50] <gratnam11> it failedd
[20:50] <gratnam11> now i am reading that Warning: the /boot filesystem cannot use any softRAID level other than 1 with the stock Ubuntu bootloader. If you want to use some other RAID level for most things, you'll need to create separate partitions and make a RAID1 device for /boot.
[20:50] <smw> Koobalita, well, you just don't know it as well
[20:50] <alex^> sudokill, apparently its been disabled .. you can enable it again simple enough .. strnage
[20:50] <llutz> kdk995509383kkdd: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html
[20:50] <Koobalita> True its alot of terminal work :D
[20:50] <chull> Trfsrfr: you sound like me with windows7 ..
[20:50] <gratnam11> can i do raid with just two drives
[20:50] <gratnam11> i want raid 1
[20:50] <sudokill> alex^ ah ok, yea thats one of the first things i noticed too i was addicted to that log lol
[20:50] <smw> gratnam11, raid 1 is mirror?
[20:51] <TbHack> chull: you find win7 hard to use ?
[20:51] <gratnam11> yes
[20:51] <Trfsrfr> chull, I hate windows, I dont use it unless I have to.
[20:51] <gratnam11> thats what i want
[20:51] <alex^> sudokill, well its helped me solve problems a million times in the past, so i think i'm gonna enable it again :)
[20:51] <smw> gratnam11, doing it at install time is the easiest...
[20:51] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: did you get your sound working?
[20:51] <chull> TbHack: 7 seems to have a tendency to vanish XChat's icons
[20:51] <TbHack> I want a million dollars... :P
[20:51] <Koobalita> man this sucks lok I downloaded this ISO cause they said it had Rivendellon it and i cant find it in the pool haha
[20:51] <jordotech> llutz, it was my 000-default under sites-enabled
[20:51] <gratnam11> i tried that
[20:51]  * sudokill gives TbHack nothing
[20:51] <jordotech> thanks for your help
[20:51] <alex^> sudokill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728570
[20:51] <gratnam11> it doesnt boot up after start
[20:51] <smw> gratnam11, it is really the only way if you want the root partition raided
[20:51] <gratnam11> i mean after installation
[20:52] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, No I did not. But I got my printer working!!!
[20:52] <smw> gratnam11, I have never tried it before
[20:52] <gratnam11> okay so how should i do it
[20:52] <sudokill> alex^yes i seen it
[20:52] <sudokill> thx
[20:52] <smw> gratnam11, I would reinstall and follow the instructions
[20:52] <gratnam11> raid the enterire file system and try using the guided installation
[20:52]  * TbHack is very disappointed in chull, *frowns*
[20:52] <gratnam11> ?
[20:52] <smw> gratnam11, yes
[20:52] <gratnam11> okay thanks
[20:53] <TbHack> chull, I don't use win to chat on IRC, I use ubuntue
[20:53] <TbHack> ubuntu*
[20:53] <chull> does anyone else's google search say anything about getting Trackball M570 to work in Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:53] <Koobalita> i am actualyl using pidgeon on here :D
[20:53] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: yay :D
[20:53] <TbHack> Koobalita, what is pidgeon?
[20:53] <chull> TbHack: excuse me?
[20:53] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: may i pm?
[20:53] <kdk995509383kkdd> llutz: thx
[20:53] <fdsifuh> Hey.
[20:53] <fdsifuh> I'm having a problem with Minecraft and other games on Ubuntu
[20:53] <Koobalita> its a multi messenger program u can use it for all communicator programs pretty much
[20:54] <chull> TbHack: pidgin is a multi-chat thing which works fairly well on ubutus
[20:54] <Koobalita> Yahoo, Msn, ETc ETc
[20:54] <TbHack> chull, what ?
[20:54] <fdsifuh> If I move my mouse, it either leaves the window or hits the side and stops me turning
[20:54] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, right! But the sound thing is driving me nuts. Sure you can pm, but I am not working on that machine right now so I cant do anything till I get home
[20:54] <fdsifuh> Is there a way to fix that?
[20:54] <fdsifuh> I can't play Minecraft in full screen, and can't play Q3A at all.
[20:54] <TbHack> chull, thought it was an animal, but you spellt it differently to the other guy that mentioned it
[20:55] <Koobalita> hmm
[20:55] <Koobalita> ok Reccomendation time :D
[20:55] <Koobalita> LOL
[20:55] <Koobalita> What program do u all recommend for ubuntu to to automated radio station
[20:56] <YankDownUnder> What do you mean by "automated radio station"?
[20:56] <alex^> Koobalita, what _is_ an automated radio station?
[20:56] <sudokill> to listen to the radio?
[20:56] <Koobalita> its where i instert media files that stream thruough the internet people can access and listen to me dj
[20:57] <Koobalita> Like the program SAM Broadcaster for Windows
[20:57] <YankDownUnder> Streaming Media Server
[20:57] <savid> I had my ssh key setup to where when I used SSH to connect to a remote host,  I got a GUI window prompting for my password.  I only had to do this once per Gnome session.  Now it always asks for the passphrase in the terminal.  Is there some program that has to be running for it to give me the former?
[20:57] <Koobalita> Yank is that a fully functional dj program?
[20:58] <alex^> Koobalita, http://www.ehow.com/how_5183447_make-radio-stream-ubuntu.html
[20:58] <BluePlanet> hjhj
[20:58]  * YankDownUnder thinks it's coffee and vodka time.
[20:58] <alex^> Koobalita, try google, it finds some useful stuff sometimes
[20:58] <winut> any tips to get safedisc cd and  .iso´s working on ubuntu 11.04? works on xp and osx fine. thanks
[20:58] <Koobalita> yes i know but the folks who use ubuntu everyday know the pros and cons
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> well well, belgian :)
[20:58] <Koobalita> and that link isnt quite what i meant
[20:59] <Pici> !google
[20:59] <winut> i get this error -> Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:59] <alex^> Koobalita, yeah perhaps .. i haven't played with radio stuff since the 90ies though, so i can't help you much more than that, sorry :p
[20:59] <BluePlanet> i need repair jack plugin
[20:59] <Koobalita> I checkced out two goodies Airtime and Rivendell
[20:59] <mint> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IMVg7uZqdQ
[20:59] <Koobalita> to advanced for me tho with the terminal stuff :D
[21:00] <Koobalita> i need more of a download and install thing :D
[21:01] <janisozaur> is there a way to check which version of hdmi does my computer have?
[21:01] <BluePlanet> jack ????????????/
[21:01] <winut> i might help you blue
[21:01] <bindi> janisozaur: google your graphics card specs
[21:02] <winut> i use jack from kx studio ppa which is version 2
[21:02] <jordotech> how do i search a directory recursively for 'myfile.html' ?
[21:02] <Koobalita> what is kx studio?
[21:02] <BluePlanet> ok...i need record music and that dont  works
[21:02] <Koobalita> sounds audial visual?
[21:02] <llutz> jordotech: find path/ -name myfile.html
[21:02] <jordotech> thanks :)
[21:02] <winut> its a great ppa for ubuntu so you can use the latest audio software
[21:02] <Koobalita> ahh see
[21:02] <winut> like jack 2 :-)
[21:03] <BluePlanet> sound recording
[21:03] <Koobalita> audio software is kind of in the line of where I am trying to head
[21:03] <Jordan_U> jordotech: find /path/to/directory -name myfile.html
[21:04] <Koobalita> What broadcastign software do u have winut?
[21:04] <Koobalita> or is that more geared towards like sound editing?
[21:05] <winut> kxstudio ppa -> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[21:06] <dantheman73> Hey. Im trying to get gtkpod to put new music on my ipod (im using linux for the first time) but it wont download
[21:06] <winut> i also use this kernel -> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[21:06] <dantheman73> it says "applying changes" and the progress bar is stuck at halfway point...what do i do?
[21:06] <oyiptong> hi, how many versions of a package does the apt repository retain?
[21:07] <winut> koobalita: i just use it for jack and wineasio really
[21:07] <Koobalita> oh ok
[21:07] <BluePlanet> my jack dont function
[21:07] <dantheman73> Hi...um I'm sorry but I dont know what any of that means
[21:07] <oyiptong> and how do i automate the install of packages that are no longer in the repository? i know i can use http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ but its not automated
[21:07] <Koobalita> I downloaded an ISO that is supposed to have the Radio Software program on it I am looking for but I cannot find it
[21:08] <Koobalita> I checked out both those places not quite what I am looking for
[21:08] <winut> which is?
[21:08] <Koobalita> Rivendell
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
[21:08] <BluePlanet>   404  Not Found
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-modules_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
[21:08] <BluePlanet>   404  Not Found
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_all.deb
[21:08] <BluePlanet>   404  Not Found
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
[21:08] <BluePlanet>   404  Not Found
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-modules_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
[21:08] <FloodBot1> BluePlanet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <BluePlanet>   404  Not Found
[21:08] <BluePlanet> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.1-2ubuntu5.2_all.deb
[21:09] <Pici> !pamerr | BluePlanet
[21:09] <Koobalita> it came from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/rrabuntu/files/
[21:09] <BluePlanet> so in other words that is not important?
[21:09] <IdleOne> I am trying to convert a file but keep getting: Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'. libmp3lame-dev is installed, any ideas how I get this working?
[21:10] <llutz> IdleOne: you don't need the -dev package
[21:10] <llutz> !info libmp3lame0
[21:10] <BluePlanet> i cant recording with jack !
[21:11] <greek> what can i do to repair a broken gnome ?
[21:11] <BluePlanet> jack dont wont load
[21:11] <IdleOne> llutz: apt doesn't find libmp3lame0
[21:11] <winut> jack is broken without the ppa
[21:11] <llutz> IdleOne: check your sources
[21:11] <YankDownUnder> I used Elmer's Glue to fix a broken Gnome...was a sad thing that.
[21:12] <greek> this is not a joke
[21:12] <Koobalita> I knew someone was gonna say it! LOL
[21:12] <IdleOne> llutz: actually it is installed already
[21:12] <Koobalita> YankDownUnder usually means an american in Australia :D
[21:12] <N3> Uhhh, I don't know if I configured raid correctly, is there a way to find out?
[21:12] <greek> i have yet to be able to use gnome because it failed the install, and failed to work after a re install, and re-reinstall...
[21:12] <albacker> what should i install to view pdf files inside firefox?
[21:13] <greek> yes Koobalita, it seems some one alwasy does
[21:13] <winut> blueplanet -> ppa:kxstudio-team/ppa
[21:13] <YankDownUnder> Best way to "fix" a broken Gnome => rename all the .gconf* and .gnome* and .nautilus* directories in your home directory, log out, login again => check if everything is "back to default"
[21:13] <winut> and qjackctl
[21:13] <durando> hey guys i can't figure out how to mount a backed up encrypted home folder can anyone help
[21:13] <winut> this also works properly with wine audio and wineasio etc
[21:13] <Koobalita> Wow some really nifty questions
[21:14] <Koobalita> I can just watch and laern :D
[21:14] <toad`> GRUB is missing
[21:14]  * toad` is sad
[21:14] <greek> YankDownUnder: what will i name those directories to ?
[21:14] <YankDownUnder> toad`, Um...re-install grub?
[21:14] <toad`> yeah
[21:14] <YankDownUnder> greek, I can't think for you mate.
[21:14] <toad`> I need to reinstal ubu actually
[21:14]  * Koobalita hi
[21:14] <toad`> my windows OS has been infected with something
[21:14]  * Koobalita puts that Grub on a fishing hook.
[21:14] <toad`> and I'm wondering if I can run in ubuntu
[21:14] <greek> YankDownUnder: ic, so the name is not relitive so long as i know them :)
[21:14] <KM0201> well, reinstalling ubuntu will definitely reinstall grub.
[21:14] <toad`> to erase that partition
[21:15] <YankDownUnder> greek,  Yeah mate
[21:15] <Koobalita> I first had FEdora
[21:15] <Koobalita> then I went to UBUntu easier
[21:15] <winut> i also use pulseaudio jack sink so you can use jack as the main sound server http://sync-signal.com/2009/12/configuring-jack-and-pulseaudio-on-ubuntu-9-10/
[21:15] <KM0201> toad`: so you want to delete your windows partition?
[21:15]  * greek goes renaming :D
[21:15] <Koobalita> if there is an easier Linux Distro then Ubuntu then I am up for it!
[21:15] <Asmodeus87> I'm expecting a big NON here but any of you know if it would be possible to reinstall windows from a recovery CD while protecting my Ubuntu?
[21:15] <toad`> I would ideally like to wipe my entire drive
[21:15] <toad`> I was thinking maybe using ubuntu Live CD
[21:15] <toad`> I could accomplish suck things
[21:15] <toad`> such*
[21:16] <phox_> Koobalito: That depends on what you want out of your system, and how much tweaking you are up for.
[21:16] <Koobalita> AS Fast as possible and as windowsy as possible :D
[21:16] <KM0201> toad`: stop hitting enter so much... if you want to wipe the entire drive, and you want to reinstall ubuntu, then just boot the live cd, and when it comes to the partition stage c hoose "use entire drive"... it'll then format the entire drive and install ubuntu... don't make a mountain out of a molehill
[21:16] <phox_> Then I guess Ubuntu is a good place to start, koobalito =)
[21:17] <Koobalita> Ya I thought so but ya never know
[21:17] <KM0201> Koobalita: being "windowsy" is a negative IMO..
[21:17] <winut> tip for jack, set the correct number of periods for your soundcard, usually 2 or 3
[21:17] <Koobalita> I Try to find out what the peopel who actualyl use the software think
[21:17] <Koobalita> ok GUI frioendly hows that
[21:17] <guntbert> Asmodeus87: not possible - recovery CDs restore the hard disk to the state they had after installation
[21:17] <phox_> KM201: but can't you see how that feature would be a pro to a new comer?
[21:18] <dantheman73>  can someone please help me? Iv never used linux before and im just trying to access my ipod
[21:18] <Asmodeus87> guntbert: That's what I tought, darn... that's going to be bad then... unless I can get my hands on a Vista CD... thanks!
[21:18] <KM0201> phox_: no.. because to many knuckleheads come here saying "i'm very computer literate".. when in reality they are "windows literate"... the two OS's are almost completely different.. knowing and understanding one, doesn't mean you know and understand the other.
[21:18] <KM0201> !ipod | dantheman73
[21:18] <CyborgSmurf> I have trouble typing in flashembedded pages
[21:18] <Koobalita> I can point and click well I wont deny that
[21:18] <phox_> KM201: Hm, interesting point.
[21:19] <winut> safedisc on ubuntu, anyone? thx
[21:19] <durando> i'm about to pull out my hair
[21:19] <KM0201> durando: clippers will make it less painful
[21:19] <durando> lol
[21:19] <Koobalita> get a buzz cut then u wont make yer head bleed
[21:19] <phox_> Koobalita: just go for it. Install a fresh version of Ubuntu 11.04 and just play around with it =) you'll get it pretty fast. All the normal stuff like browsing, music and movies is just straight forward.
[21:20] <Koobalita> oh I have ubuntu on here/ now
[21:20] <jeand_> #join ubuntu-fr
[21:20] <durando> how do i mount an encrypted backup that isn't /
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> jeand_: it's /j #ubuntu-fr
[21:20] <phox_> koobalita, oh cool. Didn't get that.
[21:20] <KM0201> durando: lol..
[21:20] <Koobalita> i even insatlled a tweak thing i saw on ubuntu software center
[21:20] <toad`> a mountain out of a mole hole?
[21:21] <jeand_> join #ubuntu-fr
[21:21] <toad`> :D
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> jeand_: with slash
[21:21] <Koobalita> ok new question
[21:21] <toad`> The thing is I need to securely erase it, not just delete a partition, it has some BOworm, I would ultimately like to have a windows partition on it for later use.
[21:21] <phox_> I have a question. Why isn't VLC on Ubuntu by standard? It's much more popular (atleast I think so) and IMO better than the random movie players we get by default.
[21:21] <Koobalita> Say you have founds teh installabe packages on an ISO
[21:21] <KM0201> toad`: molehill... it meas you're making something way more complex than it needs to be.
[21:21] <roger21> do i have to do something after modifying /etc/default/grub as with lilo ?
[21:21] <toad`> How am I doing that?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> phox_: why is a philosophical question
[21:21] <Koobalita> and want to search within those packages to see if the is a program u want to install
[21:22] <CyborgSmurf> I have trouble typing in flashembedded pages like this page ----> http://www.sharedtalk.com/
[21:22] <xangua> phox_: random movie player¿ o_O
[21:22] <Koobalita> I lov eVLC Its my choice player
[21:22] <KM0201> toad`: because you are, you said you want to nuke the whole drive, so nuke the whole drive.. the installer has an option to format the whole drive and install ubuntu...
[21:22] <KM0201> Koobalita: as longa syou're not effected by the freezing issues.
[21:22] <phox_> Monkeydust: wat
[21:22] <Descriptioned> x
[21:22] <greek> 2 .gconf* and 2 .gnome* and  1 .nautilus* later, after log out ... gnome still will not start.... apart from getting deeply invalved in this or re installeing linux from scratch , is there a way to fix my know ? i do not mind distroying gnome completely and redoing if i knew of an effective method.
[21:22] <Pici> phox_: Totem is part of of the GNOME desktop environment.
[21:22] <Koobalita> it works great I love it
[21:22]  * Descriptioned Hello guys.
[21:22] <phox_> xangua: hehe, I can't remember it's name. All I know is I don't like it.
[21:22]  * Descriptioned and ladies..
[21:23] <KM0201> !bug 743323 | Koobalita
[21:23] <phox_> pici: I was thinking about that, wheter Ubuntu chose it for themselves or whether it came with Gnome.
[21:23] <Koobalita> thats fine still the best IMO
[21:23] <Koobalita> i have found it able to play any file i send its way
[21:23] <greek> basicly, i do not like KDE plasma... if i had a method to fre myself from its buggyness, i would be fine with or without gnome
[21:23] <KM0201> Koobalita: i like it, when it works..lol
[21:23] <Sidewinder1> phox_, Totem plays music very well but, I think, it's primarily designed for video.
[21:23] <zgr> guys
[21:23] <MaxVOBJ> logout
[21:23] <Koobalita> it always works for me :D
[21:23] <zgr> who is familiar with loadkeys and xmodmap?
[21:23] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: i agree.. Audacious is slick for music...
[21:23] <MaxVOBJ> quit
[21:24] <KM0201> Koobalita: thus my clarifying statement, if it works, its awesome... the recent version is the issue.
[21:24] <Koobalita> is audacious like Audacity?
[21:24] <sirhenrik> How can I find out which graphic driver I need? I've tried lspci but it doesnt tell me much.
[21:24] <phox_> I though people didn't use local files for mp3's, don't you guys use streaming services like spotify? =)
[21:24]  * greek checks for a gnome channel
[21:24] <Koobalita> oh thats why they take bug reports tho to fix the problems
[21:24] <BluePlanet> ardour could not start jack !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:24] <KM0201> Koobalita: no
[21:24] <MaxVOBJ> q
[21:24] <Combatjuan> How do I determine how much non-shared memory a process is using? in top VIRT - SHR would indicated that I have 100 processes using 4.5GB each of memory and I'm quite sure that's not happening.
[21:24] <Koobalita> Wow some of these questions are way over my head lol
[21:25] <KM0201> Koobalita: my point, if its not effecting you, thats the reason its awesome.. if it was, you'd be a little more than upset when your whole system locks up.
[21:25] <Krenair> Got fed up with 11.04, so I switched to 10.04. How do I remove openoffice.org and install libreoffice?
[21:25] <Koobalita> True
[21:25] <KM0201> Krenair: there's a repository out there somewhere for it.. but i think its for 10.10.... do some googling, it should turn up
[21:25] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Isn't that more for audio editing?
[21:25] <ziikutv> Hi guys
[21:26] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: audacious?  no.. not at all.. it's kinda like Winamp
[21:26] <BluePlanet> Could not connect to JACK server as client.
[21:26] <BluePlanet> - Overall operation failed.
[21:26] <BluePlanet> - Unable to connect to server.
[21:26] <BluePlanet> Please check the messages window for more info.
[21:26] <ziikutv> this is the Ubuntu irc right?
[21:26] <FloodBot1> BluePlanet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <KM0201> ..
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/install-libreoffice-ppa-ubuntu/
[21:26] <A_B_> Question: Why when adding a user he's automatically added to a group by his username and not added to the "users" group?
[21:26] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: you're confusing audacious, w/ audacity.. audacity is an audio editor
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: i suggest you remove openoffice first
[21:26] <Pici> ziikutv: This is the official Ubuntu Support channel, yes.
[21:26] <Koobalita>  - Radio Automation looking for this kind of software
[21:26] <Sidewinder1> !enter > BluePlanet
[21:26] <oyiptong> does http://old-releases.ubuntu.com contain old packages for say 10.04?
[21:26] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[21:26] <BluePlanet> ok
[21:26] <Pici> oyiptong: No. 10.04 is still  a supported release.
[21:27] <ziikutv> hi my gnome task bar is gone!! I downloadd Compiz config thing.. and it made changed to my desktop
[21:27] <sirhenrik> LTS if im not mistaking
[21:27] <oyiptong> so, Pici, can i install an old version of a package that isn't in the current repository?
[21:27] <ziikutv> I dont see the taskbar nor do I see the launcher wth!?
[21:27] <oyiptong> Pici: for instance a version of python (or whatever) that has been superceded
[21:27] <guntbert> roger21: the first two lines in that file tell you  "If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update /boot/grub/grub.cfg."
[21:27] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, So, audacious is "something completely different?"
[21:27] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: completely different from audacity... yes
[21:28] <roger21> guntbert, yep ok ...
[21:28] <phox_> ziikutv: the launcher is buggy for me too. Can't get it out right now either, happens often
[21:28] <KM0201> !info audacious | Sidewinder1
[21:28] <Pici> oyiptong: You could probably pull that from launchpad, but not from old-releases.
[21:28] <oyiptong> Pici: i know i can look at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ and hunt down the package manually, but I want to do it from the command line
[21:28] <CyborgSmurf> Funny thing is that when I google my problem there are many pages which Ive asked the question before. Guess this issue is unsolvable
[21:28] <Koobalita> !info Rivendell
[21:28] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, In the repos for Lucid?
[21:28] <Koobalita> argh!
[21:28] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: should be
[21:28] <ziikutv> phox_ : I don't think you have a problem. if you see the taskbar.. hover left corner of the screen
[21:29] <Koobalita> if the taskbar is on auto hide will it not hide?
[21:29] <Koobalita> thats not supposed to be a riddle either lol
[21:29] <phox_> ziikutv: yeah no shit sherlock :P It's just stuck to the left. Can't get it out.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Koobalita: do you mean unity?
[21:29] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Kewl! I'll most definately try it...Will log-off while I download..I know I don't have to but I'm old fashion... BRB..
[21:29] <beaufils> any idea why sound is bad (short cuts very regularly) with rhythmbox or banshee but not with mplayer when listening ogg files (Ubuntu 11.04 on mactel) ?
[21:29] <Koobalita> Unity what?
[21:29] <Koobalita> !info unity
[21:29] <KM0201> lol
[21:30] <Koobalita> no not unity Rivendell
[21:30] <Sidewinder1> Heh.
[21:30] <ziikutv> phox_: Yeah but you have to hover over quickly and move your mouse away from the taskbar or it'll remain stuck..
[21:30] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: whatever you say, but that is quite unecessary..lol
[21:30] <beaufils> google do not help :-(
[21:30] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: thats not even old fashioned, it's never been heard of
[21:30] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, I know, but old habits die hard...BRB
[21:30] <Koobalita> its first fashioned then haha
[21:30] <KM0201> lol
[21:30] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[21:31] <Koobalita> A new  fad
[21:31] <phox_> ziikutv: nope. I've tried everything, it's stuck. Happens for me sometimes.
[21:31] <balleyne> I'm having trouble with a wireless card. Can see the interface with iwconfig, not ifconfig. Gnome network manager applet thing says Wireless disabled, and it's greyed out so I can't enable it. It was working for months, must have stopped within the last week or two.
[21:31] <KM0201> i think that is the strangest thing i've ever saw said in this channel.
[21:31] <phox_> sidewinder1: Why would you log off just to download? :P
[21:31] <Koobalita>  ok Help me out here KMO :D
[21:31] <KM0201> phox_: strange, for sure.
[21:31] <Koobalita> or whoever D:
[21:32] <Guest43708> hi,
[21:32] <KM0201> balleyne: do you know the chipset on the card?
[21:32] <Koobalita> How do I put this ISO That is on my desktop ON A blank cd and make it so its bootable or whateve it takes for that to load before all other things
[21:32] <ziikutv> phox_ right click and click on settings or something.. I forgot, there is a "Push" to open launcher and "Hover" you might have it on push.
[21:32] <Krenair> Alright, so I now have libreoffice installed (I think)
[21:32] <balleyne> KM0201: "Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Device 1063 (rev c0)" ?
[21:32] <guntbert> A_B_: see /etc/adduser.conf   (and man adduser.conf)
[21:32] <Krenair> How can I add it's programs to the menus?
[21:32] <KM0201> balleyne: thats not the wireless device
[21:33] <Guest43708> i have use a lot of tutorial to install wacom bamboo pen&touch,  on ubuntu10.04, can you help me to find link????
[21:33] <balleyne> KM0201: ah, sorry, this looks like it: "Network controller: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series"
[21:33] <KM0201> Koobalita: easiest way is to install gnomebaker and use it to burn the image to a CD
[21:33] <gianni_> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[21:33] <gianni_> Version 3.3.51
[21:33] <gianni_> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[21:33] <phox_> ziikutv: whatever, for no apperant reason it popped back out, but know it stuck again. Argh, don't care too much for unity thx for the interest though.
[21:33] <KM0201> balleyne: hmm, not really sure on that, usually intels just work
[21:33] <Koobalita> ok any particular things i have to do settings or wahtever.
[21:34] <Pici> gianni_: Stop that.
[21:34] <commodore64th> I uh... re-installed windows 7 starter, wiping everything on my HDD, then installed Ubuntu 11, accidentally writing over the partition that the Windows 7 bootloader was on. I need to add an entry for the Windows 7 bootloader in GRUB...
[21:34] <KM0201> Koobalita: not really, about the only thing.. when you burn an ISO, burn them as slow as possible.
[21:34] <Koobalita> i will check out ubuntu software center for gnomebaker
[21:34] <Combatjuan> In top, is there a field or combination of fields I should be able to sum to get used physical memory?  I'm trying to figure out how much memory a process is using not including shared memory.
[21:34] <KM0201> Koobalita: just sudo apt-get install gnomebaker then go to gnomebaker and tools/burn CD(or DVD) ISO".. then from there is pretty much self explanatory
[21:35] <commodore64th> So, does anyone know how to add an entry for Windows 7 in GRUB?
[21:35] <Person> ok
[21:35] <Koobalita> Ok
[21:35] <cubix> Greetings!
[21:35] <KM0201> commodore64th: well, first, run sudo update-grub2   and see if it picks it up
[21:35] <commodore64th> okay. will do.
[21:35] <Koobalita> dont have to leave to do it ya! haha
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Combatjuan: You can't boot Windows from grub if its System partition is gone. You'll have to ask in ##windows for instructions on restoring it.
[21:35] <KM0201> Koobalita: lol
[21:35] <buddo> help for install WACOM bamboo pen&tuch, (CTH-460/k)
[21:35] <Combatjuan> commodore64th: My above message was presumably for you.
[21:36] <Koobalita> last time i tried to put that iso on CD it didnt recognize it as a boot device KMO
[21:36] <Koobalita> altho I can access it as an ISO
[21:36] <commodore64th> So, how do I know if it worked? It said it found windows recovery environment...
[21:36] <balleyne> KM0201: figured it out. Stupid wireless LED that's actually a hardware kill switch, hate those things...
[21:36] <KM0201> commodore64th: reboot, and choose that option in yoru grub menu, and see if windows 7 boots (it probably will it misnames it sometimes)
[21:37] <commodore64th> Combatjuan, I don't understand your above message...
[21:37] <Jordan_U> commodore64th: You can't boot Windows from grub if its System partition is gone. You'll have to ask in ##windows for instructions on restoring it.
[21:37] <commodore64th> KM0201, okay. will try. brb
[21:37] <Koobalita> whats the key to access grub while boothing?
[21:37] <Pici> Koobalita: shift
[21:37] <robin0800> Koobalita, you have to burn it not just copy it
[21:37] <Combatjuan> commodore64th: Jordan_U messaged me saying to ask in Windows.  I think tab-completion got my name instead of yours.  I was just alerting you.
[21:37] <fooman2011> hello. I'm a newbe under linux. I have added a package using the command add-apt-repository ppa:rvm/mplayer. Then i have removed it: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:rvm/mplayer. But when i launch "apt-get update" I still have the error "W: Failed to fetch   http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm/mplayer/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found" Any idea about how to remove this error please ?
[21:37] <Koobalita> KEwlishness
[21:37] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Playing now! Pretty neat...
[21:37] <Koobalita> Getting some Ubuntu Linux Edumakashun!
[21:37] <hal2100> hello
[21:37] <KM0201> Jordan_U: i didn't see him mention that, i thought he said he wiped his drive and reinstalled windows and ubuntu, and ubuntu didn't pick up win 7.. maybe i misunderstood
[21:38] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: it's a slick little audio player, i like it a lot.
[21:38] <hal2100> I need help to track down a Out of Memory Bug
[21:38] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Will have to explore it's intricacies as time goes by...
[21:38] <Koobalita> KMO that remins me of that song in lion kind I like to move it move it move it
[21:38] <zgr> How to disable VT switching on Super key? xmodmap -pke shows that super keys are clear but they still switch VT
[21:38] <KM0201> Sidewinder1: there's not a lot to it really... but it's a pretty good app to have... i wish ubuntu still installed it by default, instead of rhythmbox.
[21:39] <Jordan_U> KM0201: "then installed Ubuntu 11, accidentally writing over the partition that the Windows 7 bootloader was on"
[21:39] <KM0201> Jordan_U: i took that to mean the mbr?
[21:39] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Many, many, thanks! You are a gentleman/ lady and a scholar. :-)
[21:39] <guntbert> hal2100: what application is it?
[21:39] <KM0201> Jordan_U: when he ran update-grub2, it picked up win7.. so i guess we'll se
[21:39] <KM0201> *see
[21:40] <Jordan_U> KM0201: That may be what he meant, but the mbr is not a partition, and Windows Vista/7 *do* have a separate partition for just the bootloader.
[21:40] <Koobalita> what does teh burnfree option mean in Gnomebaker?
[21:40] <KM0201> Jordan_U: oh i totally agree, and i see where hte confusion is....
[21:40] <Koobalita> do i need to check it or leave it?
[21:40] <Sidewinder1> KM0201, Never can assume genders here; though, it's a pretty good bet that most are male..
[21:40] <hal2100> guntbert: Thats exactly what I would like to find out
[21:40] <Koobilito> There makes me known as male
[21:40]  * Sidewinder1 Ducks at the rotten tomatoes thrown by the ladies... :-)
[21:40] <KM0201> Koobalita: just do the defaults.. only thing you should need to change, is make sure it burns as slow as possible  Koobilito
[21:41] <Koobilito> ok so dont leave it on auto?
[21:41] <guntbert> hal2100: so your oom killer went to work?
[21:41] <KM0201> Koobilito: hold on
[21:41] <Koobilito> i can choose 1x
[21:41] <KM0201> Koobilito: again, burn as slow as possible
[21:41] <durando> well that didn't work
[21:41] <durando> .....
[21:41] <Koobilito> ok
[21:41] <Koobilito> 1x it is :D
[21:41] <hal2100> guntbert: yes, but it is a little bit crazy.
[21:42] <Combatjuan> fooman2011: You can manually comment out the ppa line in /etc/apt/sources.list  -- are you sure that your add-apt-repository command completed successfully?  Maybe there was an error message you didn't see?
[21:42] <guntbert> hal2100: did you see http://linux-mm.org/OOM
[21:42] <durando> okay guys any good thoughts on how to mount a ecrypted home folder that i have on a backup drive
[21:42] <Koobilito> isnt Hal that name of that comptuer of space odyssey or something?
[21:42] <KM0201> Koobilito: yes, leave "mode" on auto
[21:42] <Koobilito> argh to late i put it on 1x lol
[21:42] <guntbert> durando: dod you record the passphrase?
[21:42] <KM0201> Koobilito: no, speed is 4x.... mode.. should be left to auto
[21:42] <durando> guntbert: yeah i have the passphrase
[21:42] <paddy_> I am getting really desperate now, can someone please take a look at this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/46255/x-freezes-every-couple-of-hours-compiz-segfault-at-58-error-4-in-libnvidia-glc
[21:42] <puff> I'm using f-spot to tag the photos from my android phone.  How do I push the changes back to my phone, so that when I look at photos on my phone, they're categorized into albums/
[21:43] <Koobilito> well if it dont work i will re do it ha
[21:43] <KM0201> Koobilito: well what did you change mode to?
[21:43] <Koobilito> I'll mail u the cd :/
[21:43] <Koobilito> to 1x u said slowest
[21:43] <KM0201> that's not mode
[21:43] <KM0201> thats speed
[21:43] <KM0201> there's a mode setting, and a speed setting
[21:43] <guntbert> durando: I try to remember what I did
[21:43] <Koobilito> i didnt change anything
[21:43] <KM0201> speed, set to whatever you want (slower is better)
[21:43] <Koobilito> except speed
[21:43] <KM0201> Koobilito: ok, then you should be fine
[21:43] <hal2100> guntbert: I have two accounts on this machine, mine and the one of my girlfriend. Mine never had this issue, but only the account of my girlfriend has.
[21:44] <Koobilito> i think last time i copied it instead of burning it.
[21:44] <KM0201> Koobilito: probably, common mistake
[21:44] <Koobilito> Common Grounds man!
[21:44] <guntbert> durando: did you see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ ?
[21:44] <hal2100> guntbert: I disabled all panels for mine account, because I use AWN. that is the only difference between mine account and the other (except the other cannot sudo)
[21:44] <ilovebears> does anyone know how to create a nautilus script, that has a checkbox?
[21:45] <Koobilito> I basically want to boot this one up to see what the rivendell is about
[21:45] <tasslehoff> Any idea how I can turn off bluetooth by default?
[21:45] <Koobilito> got an ok machine dual core 2 ghz 3.5G ram
[21:45] <KM0201> Koobilito: what was his problem?...
[21:45] <Koobilito> Whos problem?
[21:46] <buddo> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 056a:00d1 Wacom Co., Ltd
[21:46] <N3> Needing help with raid
[21:46] <commodore64th> KM0201, It didn't work
[21:46] <hal2100> guntbert: And swap is disabled for all accounts (system wide)
[21:46] <commodore64th> I had an error about it not finding a certain device (probably the boot partition at the end of the drive that I deleted.
[21:46] <KM0201> commodore64th: then go ask your question in #windows...
[21:47] <commodore64th> eh,
[21:47] <guntbert> hal2100: I never had that problem, I am reading that page myself now
[21:47] <mrdeb> commodore64th: are you an atari fan
[21:47] <commodore64th> Of course, I am, mrdeb! I have an Atari Lynx.
[21:47] <Koobilito> I used to have an Atari 2600 bout 35 yrs ago
[21:47] <KM0201> Koobilito: you should try Lubuntu on that machine, it would scream
[21:47] <Koobilito> Ut oh i aged myself :D
[21:47] <Koobilito> now u tell me !
[21:48] <Koobilito> Man!
[21:48] <KM0201> Koobilito: lubuntu.net
[21:48] <Koobilito> Is it at Gui Friendly as Ubuntu or more?
[21:48] <Koobilito> my video is lame i will say that its the built in package
[21:48] <Koobilito> my Geforece 6200 card crapped out :)
[21:48] <KM0201> Koobilito: ah.. probably not *as* friendly... but most of it is very simple to use.
[21:49] <mrdeb> what is thes best video card for ubuntu now
[21:49] <Koobilito> thats a loaded question
[21:49] <Koobilito> O:-)
[21:50] <KM0201> mrdeb: well, nvidia will almost always be better than ATI...
[21:50] <KM0201> i'ce got an nvidia 7x, and it works great
[21:51] <Koobilito> Nvidia with DDR3 Vid Ram!
[21:51] <Koobilito> for super fastness :D
[21:52] <ilovebears> does anyone know how to create a nautilus script, that has a checkbox? the location of the default scripts would also help
[21:52]  * Koobilito points everyone KM's way
[21:52] <Koobilito> lol
[21:52] <guntbert> hal2100: here is what I would do: install htop, and watch the display (sorted by memory) you should see which process takes up more...
[21:53] <Combatjuan> I discovered that I can use pmap -d to get the "writable/private" memory used by a process.  Is there a handy way to do this with all processes?  I'd rather not write a big clunky awk script to do it.
[21:53] <Koobilito> oh wow it worked i put it back in and it asked me if i wanted o check out with package maanager ya!
[21:54] <KM0201> Koobilito: that's what it should do...
[21:54] <Koobilito> yes cha ching!
[21:54] <Sidewinder1> Nice when things work the way they should.
[21:54] <KM0201> !info gmountiso
[21:55] <Koobilito> ya no kidding
[21:55] <hal2100> guntbert: that is not the problem. The problem is, that I cannot experience the error, but only my girlfriend can. And this does not happen all the time...
[21:55] <Koobilito> do the happy dance here
[21:55] <KM0201> hmm, for some reason i thought that was named gmount
[21:55] <hal2100> guntbert: The hunting is the problem
[21:56] <guntbert> hal2100: I guess so - I'm searching for a tool that can be used with watch
[21:56] <Sidewinder1> Gotta go spend some family time; Thanx all! Have a great evening.
[21:57] <Koobilito> oh man
[21:58] <fooman2011> ok how to install with dependencies using dpkg ?
[21:59] <KM0201> fooman2011: what do you mean?.. is it a .deb file?
[21:59] <fooman2011> yes
[21:59] <winut> should be automatic
[21:59] <fooman2011> when i want to install it
[21:59] <KM0201> yup
[21:59] <fooman2011> he told me:
[21:59] <fooman2011> dpkg: error processing mencoder (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[21:59] <KM0201> fooman2011: what are you trying to install w/ a .deb package?
[22:00] <winut> maybe its not in the repo or a version mismatch
[22:00] <KM0201> winut: probably
[22:00] <durando> this is just ugly
[22:00] <fooman2011> mencoder_1.0~rc3+svn20090904-0hardy2_amd64
[22:00] <fooman2011> .deb
[22:00] <winut> what os you on?
[22:00] <KM0201> fooman2011: are you using ubuntu hardy?
[22:01] <fooman2011> im under ubuntu server
[22:01] <winut> latest?
[22:01] <KM0201> fooman2011: ok, are you using ubuntu server hardy?
[22:01] <winut> uname -a
[22:01] <Pici> winut: lsb_release -a would be better
[22:01] <KM0201> ya
[22:01] <ikonia> fooman2011: you'll have to remove the repo file manually
[22:01] <guntbert> hal2100: I found something for a start: http://unixlive.editboard.com/t5-how-much-ram-is-used-per-program  and http://unixlive.editboard.com/t4-memory-usage-retrieval-on-linux-process-wise-and-general  -- not sure if it will help :)
[22:02] <fooman2011> ?
[22:02] <fooman2011> it's like a chinese room for me here :D
[22:02] <Koobilito> man rivendell aint even on this cd
[22:02] <KM0201> fooman2011: first, what version of ubuntu server are you using?
[22:02] <Krenair> installing flash on firefox, where do I put libflashplayer.so?
[22:02] <Krenair> ubuntu 10.04
[22:02] <durando> how do i add a user to the sudoer file?
[22:02] <Koobilito> Tricked!
[22:03] <fooman2011> KM0201: ubuntu server that all i know
[22:03] <Pici> durando: You shouldn't have to normally, just add the user to the admin group
[22:03] <ikonia> fooman2011: /etc/apt/sources.d
[22:03] <KM0201> fooman2011: type this  "lsb_release -a" no quotes and hit enter, and tell us what it says
[22:03] <ikonia> fooman2011: you should see some files in there
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: ~/.mozilla/plugins  is one place it can go
[22:03] <Krenair> I don't have a ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> durando: add it to the admin group and it will do it easier and safer
[22:03] <fooman2011> KM0201: 11.04 natty
[22:03] <Krenair> I have extensions and firefox under .mozilla
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: make the folder
[22:03] <Krenair> no plugins
[22:04] <ikonia> fooman2011: and /etc/apt/sources.d
[22:04] <ikonia> fooman2011: take a look in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:04] <KM0201> fooman2011: thus the problem, you're trying to install a package for hardy, in Natty... does that make any sense?
[22:04] <fooman2011> yes ?
[22:04] <fooman2011> ah ok
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: or put it in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ for all users to get the plugin
[22:04] <durando> i have a ecrypted home folder on a backup drive i can't mount, i have chrooted into that backup drive, and su - myusername and now i'm just trying to ecrypt-mount-private but it wont let me cause myusername can't mount not and hwen i try to sudo it says sudo: must be setuid root
[22:04] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, no, Firefox still says it's not installed
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: you need to restart the browser to load the new plugin
[22:05] <Krenair> I already did that.
[22:05] <fooman2011> mmh i'm looking for these packages: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer?field.series_filter=lucid
[22:05] <fooman2011> there are for lucid, karmic,  Jaunty, Intrepid, and Hardy
[22:05] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, just tried /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins, no luck with that either
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: are you installing 64bit flash per chance?
[22:05] <fooman2011> that's means that it's not possible for me ?
[22:05] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, of course
[22:06] <Pici> fooman2011: what release of Ubuntu are YOU running though?
[22:06] <KM0201> fooman2011: no, but you'd be a lot better off trying the one for lucid, than hardy..
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: there is no 'of course' assuming is a recipe for disaster
[22:06] <durando> when i try to add myusername to the admin group says hes already part of it
[22:06] <fooman2011> KM0201: Ok i try
[22:06] <Pici> fooman2011: sorry, I saw your message above, nevermind.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install flashplugin64-installer
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: much easier ;)
[22:07] <rociosl> Hi!
[22:07] <A_B_> guntbert: thanks i'll check the man pages
[22:07] <rk> hello.
[22:07] <Pici> fooman2011: Is there a reason you can't use the packages that are in repositories already in NattY?
[22:07] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, thanks, that did it
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: always try and find a ppa
[22:08] <hal2100> guntbert: Thank you! will try it later, now it is too late... N8!
[22:08] <rk> can i install ubuntu without \
[22:08] <commodore64th> So... Is there any one who can help me with my Grub/bootloader problem? The people on #windows couldn't help me.
[22:08] <KM0201> commodore64th: your problem is a windows issue not a grub issue...
[22:08] <guntbert> A_B_: you're welcome :-) you can always add a user to another group as well
[22:08] <guntbert> hal2100: Good luck :-)
[22:08] <fooman2011> Pici: I want to install ps3 media server. And they told me that this mencoder patched version must be used
[22:08] <fooman2011> so 'im looking for it
[22:09] <commodore64th> KM0201, Well, isn't it both? I need to add an entry for Windows 7 in GRUB!
[22:09] <birdmandont> how do you manually set the gateway address for ethX
[22:09] <fooman2011> KM0201: same problem with lucid packages :(
[22:09] <rk> plz help me any one....
[22:09] <Pici> fooman2011: Thats up to you then. Keep in mind that the packages thta you're installing are rather old though.
[22:10] <guntbert> rk: *what* are you trying to do?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> rk: without what?
[22:10] <rk> sir i instal ubuntu in win 7
[22:11] <rk> bt a problem is create that ur partion is small 2.3\
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> rk: then you can use wubi, or virtualize with virtualbox / vmware
[22:11] <KeKsCoRe> hello ^^
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> rk: then assign more space when you install
[22:11] <rk> no sir.
[22:11] <guntbert> KeKsCoRe:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> rk: the you will get issues
[22:12] <rk> i i assign 250 for root and 40GB for root boot
[22:12] <Raspberry> i'm running 11.04 with an nvidia card and two DVI displays, one rotated. Thisworked fine in 10.10, but will not configure in 11.04 -- anybody have a sec to walk me through it?
[22:12]  * lsv reading
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Raspberry: did you upgrade?
[22:12] <snowveil_> RFkill is disabling my wifi adapter and hitting the Wifi Switch on my netbook will not re-enable it, any idea on how to resolve this?
[22:12] <snowveil_> I just recently upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04
[22:13] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: no
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> snowveil_: try:  sudo rfkill unblock all
[22:13] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: I did a clean install
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Raspberry: great, fewer issues there :)
[22:13] <Combatjuan> rk: I can't imagine why boot would need more than a GB.  And it probably needs a lot less (I usually do 200MB which is overkill)
[22:13] <KM0201> lol
[22:13] <KeKsCoRe> yep i do .. just thought of how to ask ^^ ... i installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook yesterday ... but i just want the old netbook launcher of 10.04 back
[22:13] <snowveil_> ActionParsnip, I've tried, it's a hardware block and unfortunately will not become unblocked
[22:13] <n0yd> Hi, wanted to see if someone might be able to throw me a bone on this one. Im a pretty experienced Linux user, but just started messing with Ubuntu after being on Arch for ages.  Last night I was theming my whole system and got everything setup nicely, using classic gnome 2.x.  But today when I booted up, my emerald/compiz themes are working, but the gtk theme is sticking to the stock ugly old gnome theme.  And no matter what I change in Appearanc
[22:13] <n0yd> es, it doesnt switch anymore.  Any ideas?
[22:13] <zenwryly> hey, where is the "arch" for the system configured?  I take it it's somewhere in dpkg's config, but I can't find it.
[22:13] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: if I use nvidia-settings ... I can get aTwinView screen to lookok (Except the rightdisplay isn't rotatedsince they're treated as a single screen)
[22:14] <rk> bt sir how to solve this problem
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> snowveil_: try removing the modprobing the module
[22:14] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: my spacebar is borked on this mac :)
[22:14] <snowveil_> sorry ActionParsnip, what actions should I take to do that?
[22:14] <rk> i give 250 mb for boot
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Raspberry: i have 1 screen for 4 systems dude, I'm no good with dual head
[22:14] <n0yd> zenwryly, are you trying to package something?
[22:14] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I downloaded a game and got a compressed file with the files and folders shown at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/615512/). How do I create the executable from the makefile? TIA!
[22:14] <rk> sry 250 for root
[22:15] <KM0201> lol
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> snowveil_: sudo modprobe -r module; sudo modprobe module
[22:15] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: well the more I google the more I find people saying dual display is broken in 11.04
[22:15] <guntbert> birdmandont: edit /etc/network/interfaces    -  see man interfaces
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> snowveil_: you can find the module with: sudo lshw -C network
[22:15] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: I was hoping that it'd be fixed now... since it's been 30+ days since release :)
[22:15] <zenwryly> n0yd: nope, just wondering where the configuration that sets the arch for a running system is.
[22:15] <snowveil_> I get the error "FATAL: Module rfkill is builtin"
[22:15] <birdmandont> thanks guntbert !
[22:15] <KeKsCoRe> so my question is how to switch to the netbook launcher of 9.04  i think ...
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Raspberry: try booting to gnome classic desktop
[22:16] <Raspberry> ActionParsnip: and honestlythis is more an nvidia thing...   I'm already booted to classic :)
[22:16] <commodore64th> How do I disable SWAP (temporarily(
[22:16] <n0yd> zenwryly, couldnt tell ya on Ubuntu, i could tell you other distros, sorry :-/
[22:16] <guntbert> birdmandont: you're welcome :-)
[22:16] <Doerte> Hi everyone. Got a problem. I mounted an .iso at Linux. And I need to set a file as executable. But when I wanna set it with "chmod +x" I get the answer: filesystem only readable. So I can't set the file as executable.
[22:16] <bastidrazor> commodore64th: sudo swapoff
[22:16] <KeKsCoRe> no it was 10.04
[22:16] <KeKsCoRe> ^^
[22:17] <PineappleClock> I need some help trying to install this adobe policy file server to startup with init.d
[22:17] <guntbert> commodore64th: sudo swapoff -a
[22:17] <zenwryly> n0yd: thanks anyways :-)
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Commander1024: sudo swapoff /dev/sda2   orwhatever partition you use
[22:17] <Kre10s_> hey... whats the most robust SIP client for ubuntu?
[22:17] <KM0201> Kre10s_: there's several..
[22:17] <commodore64th> guntbert, thanks
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Kre10s_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftPhone
[22:18] <guntbert> commodore64th: :)
[22:18] <Combatjuan> nimbiotics: typically: "make && make install" will compile and install.  Whatever you've got there doesn't look overly official though, you'd better make sure you trust the source.  There appears to be no configure so if you need any dev libraries installed you'll have to do it yourself.
[22:18] <Kre10s_> KM0201, I've tried linphone and ekiga... but both don't work
[22:18] <rk> i give 250 mb for / and 40 GB for /boot and for swap ram's double bt i can't install ubuntu
[22:18] <dAnjou> hey, i am approved member of the ubuntu font family interest group on launchpad and want to test the monospaced font here on lucid but i can't find it after installing ubuntu-private-fonts.
[22:18] <rk> pls tell me any one
[22:18] <KM0201> Kre10s_: i've had pretty good luck w/ Ekiga and Twinkle... what problem are you having?
[22:18] <commodore64th> Does anyone know how to restore a small NTFS partition in Ubuntu? (which I overwrote with a SWAP partition?
[22:19] <Doerte> !hilfe
[22:19] <Doerte> !help_de
[22:19] <Kre10s_> it rings answers but no one can hear anything...
[22:19] <rk> plz help me any one..
[22:19] <Combatjuan> commodore64th: If by "restore" you mean get the data back, it's almost certainly gone.  If you just mean to format it as ntfs, I think qtparted & similar will do it for you easily.
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> rk: you need to swap the partition names for /boot and /, / will hold al your apps, /boot only holds kernels
[22:20] <guntbert> !compile | nimbiotics
[22:20] <nimbiotics> Combatjuan: so i just execute make Makefile or make install Makefile?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> rk: i'd just make one big partition to hold both
[22:20] <commodore64th> Combatjuan, I don't think it was used or formatted; I just made the SWAP partition this morning.
[22:20] <rk> tell me sir
[22:20] <Combatjuan> nimbiotics: I was hoping someone would give you the link like guntbert did.  I don't do bot magic.
[22:20] <rk> how to make partion
[22:21] <guntbert> nimbiotics: it is usually three commands: .configure   -- make  -- sudo make install
[22:21] <commodore64th> Combatjuan, or more accurately, I made it four hours ago, and it WASN't formatted.
[22:21] <nimbiotics> Combatjuan & guntbert: THX both of you!
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> rk: its part of the installer
[22:22] <Combatjuan> commodore64th: I can't say for sure, but I don't know that it would need to be formatted as SWAP.  You can always try using qtparted or similar to change the partition type back to NTFS.
[22:22] <dAnjou> oh, i forgot the question at 23:18:50. how can i get the font?
[22:22] <guntbert> Combatjuan: no magic involved :-)) - type           /msg ubottu brain            for starters
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> dAnjou: which font
[22:23] <commodore64th> Well, I only need the last 100MB of that partition, Combatjuan, so...
[22:23] <dAnjou> ActionParsnip: 23:18:50 < dAnjou> hey, i am approved member of the ubuntu font family interest group on launchpad and want to test the monospaced font here on lucid but i can't find it after installing ubuntu-private-fonts.
[22:23] <rk> ActionParsnip: i make 2 partion
[22:23] <Combatjuan> guntbert: Thanks.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> dAnjou: its documented on omgubuntu
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> rk: delete them and make one big partition
[22:24] <Doerte> !german
[22:24] <rk> ActionParsnip:  SWAP NOT REQUIRE
[22:24] <dAnjou> ActionParsnip: well i did, what they say, but it doesn't work. i don't have the font. (keep in mind, i have 10.04 here)
[22:24] <rk> ActionParsnip: OR REQUIRE
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> rk: you need swap if you have less than 4Gb RAM and intend to use the system for noral desktop stuff. I'd make one just incase
[22:25] <wad> Hi folks. Ubuntu wants to update itself, but it just gets a bunch of errors like this: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[22:25] <wad> Is it me, or is it something bigger?
[22:26] <wad> I can ping that IP.
[22:26] <KM0201> wad: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[22:26] <wad> 11.04
[22:26] <KM0201> wad: try switchin to a different mirror... then run your updates again
[22:26] <rk> ActionParsnip:  I M MAKING SWAP AND BIG PARTION OF 40gb
[22:26] <oCean> !pamerr | wad
[22:26] <ZeZu> I had some errors this morning too from uososl or w/e
[22:26] <ZeZu> changed servers and it was fixed
[22:26] <KM0201> hmm'
[22:26] <wad> Ah, okay! Thanks! IRC FTW
[22:27] <rk> ActionParsnip: THIS I CAN MAKE ,SIR..
[22:27] <n0yd> Anyone have any ideas on my question way above?
[22:27] <ikonia> rk: please stop using caps
[22:27] <rk> ok sir ..
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> rk: you dont need 40gb of swap
[22:28] <n0yd> lol
[22:28] <KM0201> lol
[22:28] <n0yd> 40gb of swap
[22:28] <rk> ikonia: bt sir tell me i can make  2 partion for ubuntu
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> rk: make a swap space the same size as your RAM. Use the rest as /
[22:28] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: what if i have 18gigs of ram? :)
[22:28] <n0yd> you prob ably dont need any swap
[22:28] <wad> ZeZu: Where did you change your mirror setting?
[22:28] <ikonia> rk: you can
[22:28] <n0yd> KM0201, then you wouldnt need swap
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: then if you make 18Gb swap you can use suspend
[22:28] <n0yd> its pointless
[22:29] <KM0201> n0yd: well, yu'd need it if you want to suspend
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> not if you need hibernate
[22:29] <rk> ActionParsnip: not swap sir 40gb for /
[22:29] <n0yd> depends on the suspend state ;)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> rk: why not just let the installer do it for you, your basic ability with Linux is clear
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> dAnjou: You can apply to become a beta tester by  joining the Ubuntu Typeface Interest group on Launchpad and waiting to be approved/granted access to the PPA. I'd contact the devs
[22:30] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i agree... he's setting himself up for an epic fail.. why folks need to reinvent the wheel, i'll never know
[22:30] <dAnjou> ActionParsnip: did you actually read my question??
[22:30] <ZeZu> wad, I changed it in synaptic -> tools -> repositories
[22:30] <dAnjou> what didn't you understand?
[22:31] <dAnjou> 23:23:18 < dAnjou> ActionParsnip: 23:18:50 < dAnjou> hey, i am approved member of the ubuntu font family interest group on launchpad and want to test the monospaced font here on lucid but i can't find it after installing
[22:31] <todd__> Hey guys, I'm having an issue with wireless on a netbook
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> dAnjou: then contact the devs, they are the ones restricting access
[22:31] <guntbert> dAnjou: even if he misunderstood - your attitude is uncalled for
[22:31] <todd__> Trying to connect over a school's wifi, so its got an open connection, but won't bring up the login screen for the school's security
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> todd__: if you manually bring up the page is it ok?
[22:32] <dAnjou> guntbert: sorry ... but i said it twice
[22:32] <todd__> I'm trying to help my brother debug it right now, so i'm not exactly sure what its doing :\
[22:32] <rk> ActionParsnip: thanku sir my installation in process.....
[22:33] <todd__> he says it connects to the wireless, and shows full signal, but won't load the page
[22:33] <rk> ActionParsnip: accotding ur
[22:33] <todd__> Said it was saying there was an issue with firewall
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> rk: np man
[22:34] <rk> ActionParsnip: bt sir after installation create a problem
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> rk: sup
[22:35] <rk> ActionParsnip:  i can 't understand sir
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> rk: what is the issue?
[22:35] <rk> ActionParsnip: what 's ur mean
[22:35] <KM0201> ..
[22:36] <CarlFK> how can I make a beep?  beep seems like what I want, only it isn't installed by default and doesn't work anyway.
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> rk: you said after the installation there is a problem, right??
[22:36] <rk> ActionParsnip: sir 38 gb is enough for /
[22:36] <Wrin777> Ok...so just upgraded to ubuntu 11 and it ruined everything
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> rk: yes, 38Gb is plenty
[22:36] <ziikutv> Hi can anyone help me please?
[22:36] <rk> ActionParsnip: ok sir
[22:36] <rk> ActionParsnip: thanks sir.
[22:36] <KM0201> ziikutv: just ask.. if someone can help, they will
[22:37] <Wrin777> Is there any way to get my old menu bar back at the top of the screen?
[22:37] <Wrin777> And recover my thunderbird account settings?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Wrin777: log off, log on to gnome classic
[22:37] <Wrin777> How, exactly?
[22:37] <KM0201> Wrin777: if you have your old /.thunderbird backed up... then recovering them should be easy... then do what ActionParsnip said for gnome-classic
[22:38] <Wrin777> Thanks, but how do I log on to gnome classic?
[22:38] <ziikutv> My taskbar (the top) and launcher (left side) is completely missing.. all I see is the desktop and my icons.. thats it!! what happend? the last thing i remember is I installed Advanced Compiz effects from software center.. When I login to same account using "ubuntu no classic (no effects)" i can see the top taskbar..  But no matter what i do i cant get rid of it in normal version.. I created a new user and it has the top bar.. thank god.. is the
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Wrin777: its in the session selector when you log in
[22:38] <Wrin777> @Action: Thanks I'll do that
[22:38] <DevilSolution> how do i burn a disk? i have an iso and my disk drive has a burner im pretty sure
[22:39] <ziikutv> no one can help?
[22:39] <guntbert> !burn | DevilSolution
[22:39] <guntbert> !patience | ziikutv
[22:39] <ziikutv> My taskbar (the top) and launcher (left side) is completely missing.. all I see is the desktop and my icons.. thats it!! what happend? the last thing i remember is I installed Advanced Compiz effects from software center.. When I login to same account using "ubuntu no classic (no effects)" i can see the top taskbar..  But no matter what i do i cant get rid of it in normal version.. I created a new user and it has the top bar.. thank god.. is the
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> DevilSolution: insert the cD, right click ISO and select to burn it.
[22:40] <balony> I want to enable the nvidia drivers in my 11.04 installation, but I have no proprietary drivers showing in jockey. What am I missing in order to get the nvidia choice here?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> balony: what nvidia chip do you have?
[22:40] <balony> ActionParsnip: this is a 4 year old macbook pro. I am not sure exactly.
[22:40] <Wrin777> Alright - Gnome is reasonable again!  Was anyone still talking about how to restore thunderbird settings?
[22:40] <ziikutv> is there anyway to import all my files and installed softwares from my DEFAULT account? i set this account as admin but that one has "custom" rights.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> balony: what does: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:41] <MarkAng> Hey folks! Need some semi-urgent help. A friend of mine is using Pidgin on linux, and tries to connect to our MSN group chat. I invited him twice, but he can´t see any invites.
[22:41] <balony> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]
[22:41] <Koobilitoo> Q: Linux Distro you would recommned to a NEWBIE
[22:42] <MarkAng> Koobilitoo: Ubuntu?
[22:42] <finalblogger> hi ev1
[22:42]  * YankDownUnder checks to see if this is the #pidgin channel
[22:42] <ziikutv> does Ubuntu have system restore?
[22:42] <finalblogger> i need some help
[22:42] <KM0201> Koobilitoo: anything BUT kubuntu
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> balony: thats not an nvidia ;)
[22:42] <finalblogger> i m using ubuntu 11.04
[22:42] <MarkAng> YankDownUnder: Sorry :P
[22:42] <finalblogger> and i also have windows 7 on the same machine
[22:42] <ziikutv> Does Ubuntu have system restore (11.04(
[22:42] <Koobilitoo> ok So Ubuntu and anything other then Kubuntu
[22:43] <Koobilitoo> u hda mentioned Lubuntu earlier for my machine
[22:43] <finalblogger> how can i access a folder which is at my win 7 desktop from ubuntu
[22:43] <finalblogger> ?
[22:43] <ziikutv> finalblogger: I can help you with taht
[22:43] <KM0201> Koobilitoo: if you're planning on supporting this person ww/ answers, i would suggest you have them use whatever you're using
[22:43] <Koobilitoo> I saw opensuse hows that for newbie?
[22:43] <balony> ActionParsnip: right. How do I enable opengl for this card? I did install the fglrx driver.
[22:43] <finalblogger> thanks
[22:43] <finalblogger> how?
[22:43] <Koobilitoo> no i am supporting myself lol
[22:43] <Nisstyre> yes
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> ziikutv: no it doesn't but you can installl and use softwares to achieve similar afaik
[22:43] <KM0201> Koobilitoo: oh, any of the *buntus.. i'd just stay away from Kubuntu cuz its a resource hog
[22:43] <oCean> Koobilitoo: the topic of this channel is ubuntu, not other distributions
[22:43] <DevilSolution> ActionParsnip, ty, twas rather easy easy easy XD kudos to you
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> !ati | balony
[22:43] <ziikutv> thanks
[22:44] <finalblogger> soo
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> DevilSolution: its always easy dude, people just think stuff is hard
[22:44] <finalblogger> anyone
[22:44] <KM0201> Koobilitoo: are you currently using windows?
[22:44] <Koobilitoo> http://floyd-linux.pappapc.com/ Here reccomends Linux VEcotr Standard
[22:44] <ziikutv> finalblogger: Goto places > Computer > Filesystem > Host (THIS IS YOUR C DRIVE) from there you can goto User > Username > Desktop
[22:44] <Koobilitoo> sorry Vector Linux Standard
[22:44] <KM0201> Koobilitoo: geez, anything will be better than Vector
[22:44] <Koobilitoo> No Ubuntu now.
[22:44] <finalblogger> let me check
[22:44] <DevilSolution> ActionParsnip, lol, true, i always had problems getting the drivers/software in windows this OS is my god
[22:44] <oCean> Koobilitoo: again, this channel is only for ubuntu. The rest is offtopic here
[22:45] <dr3mro> my ubuntu 11.04 freezes randomly ?? using unity can any one help
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> DevilSolution: glad you like it :)
[22:45] <ziikutv> finalblogger: Let me know, I am sure it'll work as I had the same question
[22:45] <Psydoll> I have had a major problem and need help!
[22:45] <KM0201> Psydoll: ask a question and if someone can help, they will answer
[22:45] <Psydoll> I tried to make a new persistent usb stick using a persistent ubuntu stick via the start yup disk creator
[22:46] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, do you have a web browser open when this is happeneing (I.E does it crash without any front end software open)
[22:46] <Psydoll> now when i boot with both sticks connected on the original it boots a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 on the old stick
[22:46] <ziikutv> Psydoll: Try to say your problem in one message rather than broken messages. You can type the whole message and link it on paste.ubuntu.com
[22:46] <finalblogger> Ziikutv there is no Host under File System
[22:46] <finalblogger> only Home is there
[22:46] <finalblogger> ?
[22:47] <ziikutv> finalblogger: Did you install ubuntu as a partition or using wubi?
[22:47] <dr3mro> DevilSolution, I guess most of times i was on Firefox .. and sometimes just after i close firefox window but sometimes without firefox
[22:47] <finalblogger> i have done half partition
[22:47] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, okay, how often does it crash?
[22:48] <finalblogger> think the first option on the wizard
[22:48] <ziikutv> goto Places > File system what do you see there? Goto www.paste.ubuntu.com type the list there and link it here> i can help you for sure
[22:48] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, sporadic or periodically every x.seconds?
[22:48] <Psydoll> I tried to create a new  persistent usb stick using a ubuntu 10.04 persistent stick, I used the start up disk creator and when i try to boot from the new stick i get the following error msg vesamenu.c32 : not a com32r image
[22:48] <DevilSolution> minutes..hours etc
[22:48] <dr3mro> you can say every day sometimes up to 4 times somedays only one ,. but just freeze no error or anything
[22:48] <dr3mro> DevilSolution, you can say every day sometimes up to 4 times somedays only one ,. but just freeze no error or anything
[22:48] <ziikutv> Psydoll: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-mint-84/trying-to-boot-linux-mint-9-from-usb-flash-drive-vesamenu-c32-not-a-com32r-image-829397/
[22:48] <dr3mro> DevilSolution, sporadic
[22:49] <finalblogger> the website does not work
[22:49] <finalblogger> :(
[22:49] <finalblogger> i see Home and root there
[22:49] <finalblogger> and many others
[22:49] <finalblogger> but no Host
[22:49] <robin0800_> dr3mro, and the logs say?
[22:49] <ziikutv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:49] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, ive had the same issue, its only really happened with an internet browser so its probably related too bas sectors on the HD or in RAM such that its just looping to try and get a vlaue it cant find
[22:50] <ziikutv> I am talking about what you see out of the filesystem.. only till Places > Computer
[22:50] <jenk> Hi ! How do I encrypt my home folder ?
[22:50] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, i thinks its probably a hardware issue, unless you can find out what exactly is causing it front end its pretty much impossible to diagnose
[22:50] <ziikutv> jenk: With encrypting programs? Search in software center
[22:50] <ziikutv> jenk: There must be an app for it.. search!
[22:50] <Wrin777> Ok, so I upgraded ubuntu from 10 to 11 and now my thunderbird settings are gone.  Trying to fiddle with the profile manager isn't doing anything.  Any suggestions?
[22:51] <dr3mro> DevilSolution, My HDD is OK and my RAM is fine .. all tested robin0800_  which log ? there are too many logs?
[22:51] <rk> ActionParsnip: sir i can't open my home desktop
[22:51] <dr3mro> DevilSolution, ok where can I check for error log for freeze?
[22:51] <jenk> ziikutv, I did search but came up with apps that encrypt emails and files. I want my entire home folder encrypted, how do I do that ?
[22:51] <DevilSolution> dr3mro, no idea im noob, im interested in knowing also as i have the same issue :P
[22:52] <DevilSolution> robin0800_, which logs indeed?
[22:52] <ziikutv> jenk: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/11/enable-ubuntu-encrypt-home-folders/
[22:52] <ziikutv> and
[22:52] <ziikutv> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder
[22:52] <ziikutv> jenk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder
[22:53] <dr3mro> it started about a 2 month ago when i used maverick .. but was not freeze just the screen comes black but after upgrade to natty it happened less but the screen not black
[22:53] <dr3mro> DevilSolution,
[22:53] <dr3mro> it started about a 2 month ago when i used maverick .. but was not freeze just the screen comes black but after upgrade to natty it happened less but the screen not black
[22:53] <robin0800_> dr3mro, look for segfaults at the time of the freeze use log viewer
[22:53] <finalblogger> ok there are 4 Drives
[22:54] <finalblogger> one is File System
[22:54] <finalblogger> other System Reserved
[22:54] <finalblogger> than CD/Dvd
[22:54] <finalblogger> and last File System
[22:54] <finalblogger> soo
[22:54] <finalblogger> ?
[22:54] <ziikutv> there are two file systems?
[22:55] <finalblogger> yes
[22:55] <dirtycookie> hello peeps, i wanted to know where can i check the list of supported wlan cards of ubuntu
[22:55] <finalblogger> no only one File System
[22:55] <dr3mro> robin0800_, yes there are too many segfaults at syslog
[22:55] <finalblogger> one
[22:55] <dr3mro> robin0800_, can i upload it to you and tell me what is the issue?
[22:56] <robin0800_> dr3mro, no put it in a pastebin please
[22:56] <jenk> ziikutv, Thanks a million ! It doesn't consume any extra space, does it ? Or is there a way to encrypt just one folder and dump stuff there ?
[22:57] <rk> .i csn't open  desktop in ubuntu..pls tell me any one
[22:57] <finalblogger> ziikutv only one file system
[22:57] <ziikutv> jenk: I don't think it consumes extra space. You SHOULD.. make a private folder and encrypt it and not a folder the ubuntu system itself uses. This is to avoid any problems and slow downs after.. I would make a folder in  Documents and encrypt that.
[22:58] <ziikutv> finalblogger: When you open it, does it say Host or Users?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> rk: do you mean the folder in your home folder?
[22:58] <ziikutv> one of those two
[22:58] <rk> ActionParsnip: siropen only black screen and require login as a terminal
[22:59] <jenk> ziikutv, Like, having a single folder as Private and encrypted ? How do you do that ?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> rk: add the bootoption: nomodeset
[22:59] <finalblogger> ziikutv its just one File System and under that it has Usr but that shows only ubuntu desktop
[22:59] <rk> ActionParsnip: how to add boot option
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[23:00] <rk> ActionParsnip: plz si specify
[23:00] <ziikutv> jenk: http://maketecheasier.com/create-a-private-encrypted-folder-on-ubuntu-hardy-with-ecryptfs/2008/09/25/
[23:00] <dr3mro> robin0800_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615530/
[23:00] <rk> ActionParsnip: i have no more knowledge about linux
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> rk: if you need everybody to hold your hand at every step of the way, you will never learn your OS and will need continual hand holding for everything
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> rk: nobody is born knowing linux either, you learn by trying stuff. There is a FANTASTIC guide there, all you have to do is READ
[23:01] <commodore64th> *sigh*
[23:02] <jenk> ziikutv, Thanks, once again ! :)
[23:02] <Dexter> how do I change the permissions of a folder? chmod?
[23:02] <rk> ActionParsnip: ok sir bt help me tody.
[23:02] <ziikutv> jenk: No problem, take care
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> rk: read the link
[23:02] <ziikutv> Dexter: That would have to be a server folder... for you to do that
[23:02] <acovrig> If I have eth0<internet and eth1>wifi router-can I use this as a transparent proxy (filter the connections)-so the wifi gets internet through this 10.10 box?
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[23:03] <FloodBot1> edhjrw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <Dexter> what command do I use then? its a regular folder
[23:03] <ExplodingPiglets> yes>
[23:03] <ExplodingPiglets> *?
[23:03] <ExplodingPiglets> oh
[23:03] <ExplodingPiglets> nvm
[23:03] <ultrixx> omg
[23:04] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to get google body browser run on 10.04.2 with hardware Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07). I believe if I can upgrade mesa to 7.10 it may start working... is there a ppa for doing this?
[23:04] <feydr> been using soundstretch to change the tempo of an audio track -- but once I get it at the speed I like I get a echo/ripple background noise -- anyone know howto get rid of that w/sox or something ??
[23:05] <Ddpbf> MrKeuner: xorg-edgers
[23:05] <Psydoll> is there anyone that can take me through the process of downloading source code and making it and installing it via the command line?
[23:06] <ziikutv> Psydoll: What are you trying to install
[23:06] <MrKeuner> Ddpbf, could you give me a bit more info on that?
[23:07] <Ddpbf> MrKeuner: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:07] <dAnjou> to resolve my issue: the ubuntu monospace font is apparently NOT in the lucid package
[23:07] <dAnjou> what the ...?
[23:07] <dAnjou> it's in the natty package though
[23:07] <rww> Ubuntu has a monospace font now?
[23:07] <fooman2011> I have installed the package mplayer and mencoder from the standard repositories (i'm under natty). Now i want to get an another version of mencoder located here: http://biglinux.c3sl.ufpr.br/packages/natty/main/mencoder/     1) is this version will be compatible ? 2) when i get the .deb file, i try to install it using "dpkg -i /mnt/raid/mencoder_1.0~rc3+svn20100416-0lucid4_amd64.deb" and i have an error: dpkg: error processing /mn
[23:07] <tucemiux> what "device" does ubuntu assign USB card to?  I'm trying to use an app  but it's pointing to "/dev/dsp" and I'm using a USB sound card
[23:07] <ziikutv> rww: yes
[23:07] <MrKeuner> Ddpbf, all right thank you
[23:08] <dAnjou> rww: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/ubuntu-font-monospace-variant-hits-beta-testing-ppa/
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> rww: in a ppa, you need to join the group and be approved
[23:08] <Ddpbf> MrKeuner: or you could try x-swat ppa
[23:08] <dAnjou> ActionParsnip: AND use natty
[23:08] <BajK> ah
[23:08] <jenk> Psydoll,  After you download the source file, uncompress it if necessary, change to that folder, and in a terminal type  './configure' then 'make && sudo checkinstall'
[23:08] <BajK> okay, stupid lying floodbot
[23:08] <rww> ActionParsnip: Looks like I already have access to that PPA, actually ;P
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> dAnjou: as you say
[23:08] <flack> hmm
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> rww: ha, nice
[23:09] <MrKeuner> Ddpbf, OK will check both. Do you think upgrading x related stuff will help me run google body browser?
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[23:09] <FloodBot1> hgj67inm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Drule> Fuck
[23:09] <Drule> I'm sick of that guy
[23:10] <rizzuh_laptop> WTF is the point beats me
[23:10] <rww> Drule: Thankfully, they won't be coming back for a while :)
[23:10] <ring1> just ignore it
[23:10] <Drule> can't we just force all freenode users to verify their accounts with credit card numbers or something
[23:10] <rww> rizzuh_laptop: It confuses people and gets them to annoy #freenode and the staffers with questions.
[23:10] <rww> Anyway, ignore spam please :)
[23:10] <rizzuh_laptop> heh
[23:11] <acovrig> and do I plug my box in as the modem or a client?
[23:13] <BajK> Drule: lul credit card..
[23:13] <fowlduck> how do I check what options a binary was compile with? in this case it's openssh-server, I want to find out how many max connections it allows
[23:13] <fowlduck> as i understand it, the max-connections option is a configure option
[23:14] <ziikutv> by adding tags at the end of command like -u -k etc.. you need to look that up on google.
[23:15] <FORTHELULZ> who called me
[23:15] <FORTHELULZ> nevermind... again
[23:15] <fowlduck> ziikutv: heh, for checking compile options for a package? I thought that was available through the dpkg command or something
[23:16] <ziikutv> ing whats being used from dekstop rather than going all the way in side
[23:17] <fowlduck> uh what?
[23:17] <ziikutv> switched window by mistake lol
[23:18] <ziikutv> I am not sure about that one sorry man
[23:18] <fowlduck> k
[23:21] <skor> I'm using 10.10 on PPC and after a system upgrade to 11.04 the system will not boot.  '/boot/vmlinux: Not a valid ELF image'
[23:22] <bluenemo> Drule, this stuff is bull isnt it? no need for sasl right?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> skor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports/+bug/329400
[23:25] <bastidrazor> bluenemo: all the SASL spam is just spam. nonsense. ignore it.
[23:27] <bluenemo> bastidrazor, ok thx
[23:29] <tucemiux> oh shucks, i just upgraded my windows to SASL compliant browser :-(
[23:31] <Da|Mummy> how do i enable SASL? i already had enough trouble with ssl
[23:31] <omichalek> hi all, one of my Tomboy notes disappeared inbetween poweroff and loggin in afterwards
[23:32] <omichalek> can I recover it somehow?
[23:34] <skor> ActionParsnip: thanks, although I'm not sure what to make of that bug report.. it's from 2009 and claims it's fixed
[23:37] <frackle> !alertops
[23:37] <frackle> !ops
[23:37]  * marienz raises an eyebrow
[23:37] <IdleOne> frackle: what's up?
[23:37] <frackle> !ops I just poopooed myself, and I need a freenode staffer or IdleOne to wipe my ass for me
[23:38] <skor> running 'file' on the old an new kernel shows the new kernel is a MSB shared object ?
[23:39] <tucemiux> i hope mode +q means permanent from to his NIC
[23:39] <tucemiux> permanent *ban* that is
[23:40] <Logan_> tucemiux: Please don't comment on spam.
[23:40] <elky> tucemiux, no, it's a mute to shut him up until the kline can happen.
[23:40] <elky> tucemiux, now carry along now.
[23:40] <entombed> I have an asus eeepc and I have a webcam showing up as "IMC Networks" not sure what driver to use... any ideas?
[23:40] <tucemiux> ha ha LoL ok
[23:43] <t3hprize> ?DCC SEND "CHILDPORNOGRAPHY.mpeg.avi.divx.exe" 0 0 0
[23:43] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[23:43] <nicofs> Is anyone aware of a sort of pastebin for pictures? (might be a bit off-topic)
[23:44] <Logan_> !pastebin | nicofs
[23:44] <nicofs> Logan_, imagebin... could have guessed that myself...
[23:45] <Logan_> Heh.
[23:47] <StevenSS> How do I connect to a wireless printer with Ubuntu? It works for the Windows computer, but I cannot figure out how to connect with this one.
[23:47] <doctorZeus> Is it possible to "trick" Ubuntu into "becoming" an external storage device, using a usb male-to-male cable connected to the Ubuntu system from a DVR?
[23:48] <doctorZeus> I know it sounds like an odd requirement but basically my security/camera DVR doesn't have FTP support so I'm trying to get it to write data to a usb hard disk which I've been able to do.. If I could get it to pipe that data into some storage somewhere in ubuntu I could cobble together something to listen for new data and ftp it off site
[23:50] <Logan_> StevenSS: Does it show up on the left when you try to add a printer?
[23:50] <StevenSS> no
[23:50] <StevenSS> actually wait
[23:50] <StevenSS> I don't even know how to add a printer
[23:50] <Logan_> StevenSS: are you on Unity?
[23:51] <StevenSS> Logan: No. I am on gnome. Unity was too hard to get used to
[23:51] <omichalek> hi all, one of my Tomboy notes disappeared inbetween poweroff and loggin in afterwards. Is there any help to me?
[23:51] <wcchandler> I'm running a CUDA based application -- BOINC/World Community Grid -- is there a way to tell if my GPU is being used?  Similar to a top?
[23:51] <mordagar> is there anyone else with sound problems on 11.04?
[23:51] <mordagar> or is that common.
[23:51] <StevenSS> Logan: I'll consider using Unity though if it will help me get my printer working
[23:51] <Logan_> StevenSS: System --> Administration --> Printing
[23:52] <StevenSS> Okay. I got the printing dialog box up now
[23:52] <StevenSS> Printing service not available.
[23:52] <mordagar> i originally had no sound....and no wifi....got the sound working than got wifi but when the wifi started working theeee sound went out
[23:52] <skor> This thread answered the question, thanks anyway.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yaboot/+bug/745358
[23:53] <StevenSS> Do I need a CUPS server to get my printer working?
[23:54] <Logan_> StevenSS: try sudo service cups start in a terminal
[23:54] <jenksed> how do I access emacs on the command line... when i type in emacs it automatically brings up the gui version
[23:54] <StevenSS> Logan: It says cups start/running
[23:54] <Logan_> StevenSS: try adding the printer again
[23:55] <ilyaZ> ok so just installed xubuntu the other day: why are non of my apt-packages authenticated?
 WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
   libncurses5-dev libreadline5-dev
 Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[23:55] <r00tk1n6> Where is my hot geeky lady??
[23:55] <StevenSS> It keeps asking me for a cups server. As far as I know I do not have one
[23:55] <smw> ilyaZ, so apt-get update
[23:56] <smw> ilyaZ, it should fix its self
[23:56] <StevenSS> Logan: It seems I need a CUPS server.
[23:56] <user75475> stevenss, in a webrower try localhost:631
[23:56] <robin0800> StevenSS, did you install a cups driver?
[23:57] <StevenSS> robin0800: Not sure.
[23:57] <StevenSS> I don't even know what CUPs is
[23:57] <r00tk1n6> Don't wanna lose you now... babe.. I know we can win this. Don't wanna loooooooooose you know, babe
[23:58] <ilyaZ> smw, cool works great! thanks! (sorry for double posting)
[23:58] <mordagar> #join
[23:58] <The_Explorer> umm...
[23:58] <The_Explorer> Help.
[23:58] <Raelos> cups is the printing system used on many unix systems
[23:59] <robin0800> StevenSS, go to printers and report what it sayes in properties
[23:59] <r00tk1n6> fubuntu, tubuntu, rubuntu, nubuntu, pubuntu, wubuntu, vubuntu, bubuntu, lubuntu, gubuntu, hubuntu dubutntu, subuntu, cubuntu
[23:59] <StevenSS> Properties is greyed out
[23:59] <The_Explorer> Deleted parition, oops, (ETX4) running test disk, Can someon directly me to a Fdisk legend so i can read the outputs, I just lost 12 years of data
[23:59] <StevenSS> How do I view what services are running?
[23:59] <r00tk1n6> The_Explorer, congratulations