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Newbiathondo  what?00:00
Newbiathonhey also, how do i change my LAMP server to not start on bootup?00:00
Newbiathonand for some reason it is running on my comp name (host name 127.0.1.1) instead of localhost 127.0.0.100:01
Newbiathonweird00:02
melkorCan I 'browse files' with bluetooth?00:02
Newbiathonactually it is on both00:02
Newbiathoni need to turn off the live one (host name00:03
Newbiathonany help00:03
kaltest00:03
wintellectkal, did you pass?00:07
kalfunny00:10
wintellect:)00:10
kalkde too complex, coming from gnome.00:10
kalToo many options.00:10
kalwaste too much time configuring.00:11
sithlord48kal you don't have to configure. but you can if u want :D don't they let you configure gnome? (long time no use it)00:18
kalWell, not anymore with Gnome 3.00:18
sithlord48thats right i did try gnome 3.. but only from a live cd i didn't try to change anything00:19
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Newbiathonis anyone good with LAMP servers?00:59
Linkmaster!anyone | Newbiathon01:00
ubottuNewbiathon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.01:00
Aanghi01:05
Linkmasterhey01:05
AangI'm having problems in KDE on Mint01:05
AangKDE has Ubuntu sounds in it for some reason. Why is that and how do I disable it?01:05
Linkmasterhmm...01:09
LinkmasterI really don't know D:01:12
Aangdarn it01:13
LinkmasterYou might go to #kde to find out from there01:13
Aangok01:13
Aangon freenode?01:13
Linkmasteryeah01:13
Aangk01:13
Aangguess I'm outta here then01:13
DaskreechLinkmaster: Wha?01:18
Daskreechwhy would #kde know about Ubuntu sounds?01:18
LinkmasterBecause he said he had an issue with KDE making ubuntu sounds01:19
LinkmasterI figured that some KDE setting I didn't know about was pointing his settings to play ubuntu noises01:19
DaskreechYea but that's a packaging issue01:20
Daskreechnot a #kde one01:20
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new2netecho has been running for a week... where does it all go?01:22
Daskreechnew2net: what echo?01:47
new2netDaskreech: echo like println01:52
new2netbash01:52
DaskreechWhat was the command?01:52
new2netlet me check history 1 sec01:52
new2netecho -e $RAINBOW $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB $RESET01:56
new2netseems legit to me ;)01:59
Ddpbfhttp://www.qtfm.org/ nov available in kubuntu https://launchpad.net/~dalibor/+archive/ppa-ddpbf/02:25
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Daskreechnew2net: I'm thinking decompression bomb might be interesting to get some more details on02:38
SentynelHi guys, any news on when KDE 4.7 beta packages are going to be available in beta backports PPA?02:54
new2netDaskreech: that sounds like something out of a scifi movie02:58
DaskreechSentynel: When Beta 2 comes out03:00
Daskreechnew2net: Or a sneaky bash variable03:00
DaskreechReset is also disturbing03:00
SentynelDaskreech: alrighty, cheers03:00
DaskreechSentynel: that's next week if you are checking up03:00
new2netWell I have a suspicion I haven't made it past $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB yet.03:01
Daskreechnew2net: Might kill the process03:02
new2netDaskreech: I suspect $RESET is like "%you win%"03:06
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Daskreechnew2net: I suspect $RESET is restart the fuse on the bomb03:11
new2netk I killed it ;) nothing but null bytes for the last 6 days anyways.03:13
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LINKSWORD2Feels dead right now...04:06
Aangback04:16
DaskreechAang: Worked out?04:31
xboxownsI seeeeeriously love kubuntu..it is truly the coolest OS out there04:31
xboxownsanyways I need someone to help me with a little problem running vmplayer04:32
Linkmasterwhat is it?04:32
Aangnope. they're still there. someoone on the mint forum suggested I remove the ubuntu folder from my sounds folder04:32
Aangdidn't do anything04:32
DaskreechAang: still sounds like a package error. do you have any KDE sounds?04:32
Aangyeah. but they're all disabled04:32
Daskreechxboxowns: waiting....04:32
AangI COULD enable them but I don't wanna04:32
xboxownsWhen I run it it prompts a message "before you can run vmware, several modules must be compile and loaded into kernal..04:33
DaskreechAang: Oh problem solved then04:33
xboxownswhen I attempt to click on install04:33
Aangno. problem not solved04:33
xboxownsI get an error message04:33
DaskreechWhere did you install vmware from?04:33
xboxownswell from the website itself04:33
xboxownsthe one that developed it04:33
xboxownsit says04:34
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xboxownsunable to build kernel module.04:34
xboxownsI don't know what to do from there04:34
Daskreechxboxowns: where is the page?04:34
xboxownshold on04:34
DarthFrogxboxowns:  Have you installed the build-essential package?04:35
xboxownsno04:35
Daskreechxboxowns: Did you install build-essential ?04:35
xboxownswhere do I get that?04:35
xboxownsno04:35
DarthFrogsudo apt-get install build-essential.04:35
xboxownshold on04:35
Daskreechxboxowns: How do you normally do installs for programs?04:35
xboxownswell04:36
DarthFrogVMWare requires the ability to compile kernel modules.  Thus you have to have a build environment available.04:36
xboxownsoriginally I download programs from website04:36
xboxownsor I use the build in add/remove program of kubuntu04:36
xboxownsyou know the type in the program to search for and download04:36
xboxownskinda thing04:36
xboxownswell let me try now04:36
xboxownsamazing04:37
xboxownsit is working now04:37
xboxownswhat was it that I did before the build-essential04:37
xboxownswhat is that?04:37
Daskreech!info build-essential04:38
ubottubuild-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.5ubuntu1 (natty), package size 5 kB, installed size 48 kB04:38
xboxownsreally?04:38
xboxownswow04:38
xboxownsMan...the terminal is a very very very very powerful thing in linux O_O04:38
DaskreechThat's a horrible description04:38
xboxownsHey guys is it true that macOS X is linux?04:38
Daskreechxboxowns: You have been enlightened04:38
Daskreechxboxowns: no it's not04:38
xboxownsooh04:38
xboxownsbut the terminal of macos is identical to linux04:38
c2tarunmy kubuntu natty 64 bit crashed again and again after 4 fresh installations :( I am forced to install ubuntu natty . need help please reply04:40
c2tarunDaskreech, ping ^^04:40
Daskreechpong04:40
Daskreechxboxowns: that still doesn't make it Linux :)04:41
c2tarunDaskreech, can you help you with my system crash?04:41
xboxownsOoh ok ;)04:41
Daskreechc2tarun: what's wrong?04:41
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Sentynelxboxowns: OSX is a variant of Unix; Linux is a free Unix-like. you can build a lot of GNU software for OSX, and it ships some by default, including the terminal bash04:41
Daskreechxboxowns: it's UNIX but Linux is not unix04:41
Daskreechcousins though04:41
xboxownsDo you guys think one day wine will support .net framework 4 and xna 4.004:41
xboxownsSo MacOS is unix based?04:41
Sentynelyes04:41
Aangi hope so X04:41
Daskreechxboxowns: one day but you can probably run a lot of it under Mono04:41
xboxownsSo......what we learned from here that using Unix base we can have the friendliest OS like Windows or Mac or more?04:42
c2tarunDaskreech, dont know, my first my older installation was freezing on kubuntu splash screen, then, I installed again and then after login when the panel appear system crashing after few minutes, with black screen and several lines :(04:42
xboxownsThe reason why I am using vmplayer so I can install Windows in virtual mode...to run things that wine cannot run.04:42
Daskreechxboxowns: virtualbox can do that as well I think04:43
Daskreechc2tarun: do you have a /home partition ?04:43
xboxownsYup. I just pray wine become 80% windows comaptible application04:43
xboxownsoh that would be sooooooooooooooo sweeeet04:43
Aangyeah04:43
c2tarunDaskreech, yeah04:44
Daskreechc2tarun: that's your problem04:44
xboxownsbut I am seriously getting comfortable with kubuntu :D It is my favorite alternative OS that is for sure :)04:44
c2tarunDaskreech, why so, and that same home partition is working fine in ubuntu.04:44
Daskreechc2tarun: cause you are not using the ~/.kde directory04:44
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Aang@xboxowns ditto04:45
c2tarunDaskreech, hmm..... I think my home partition don't have that directory. Thanks for pointing :) I'll figure out something04:46
Daskreechc2tarun: ls ~/.kde and tell me what you see04:46
xboxownsIs it me or is stewe in family guy is becoming clearly he is gay04:46
Aanghm04:46
Aangmaybe04:46
xboxownsI really think stewe in family guy is gay04:46
Daskreechxboxowns: he's been that way since they started04:46
xboxownsah04:47
Daskreechbut that's offtopic in any case04:47
Aangwe should totally move this convo to kubuntu-chat04:47
xboxownstrue04:47
Daskreech!ot04:47
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:47
xboxownssorry about that04:47
DaskreechThere is place for that04:47
c2tarunDaskreech, nothing, its not there.04:47
Daskreechc2tarun: hmm that's more worrying04:47
DaskreechSo lets go back to the start. You had KDE installed and working fine?04:47
c2tarunDaskreech, I'll do a fresh installation and then copy the new .kde in my home partition, I think that will fix.04:47
c2tarunDaskreech, that Kubuntu was freezing on blue screen and with points blinking below it.04:48
Daskreechc2tarun: this is on login to the desktop?04:49
c2tarunDaskreech, nope, just before the splash screen we get a blue screen with kubuntu written on it. :/ there it was freezing.04:50
Daskreechc2tarun: oh that's different then04:50
DaskreechThat's a kernel issue of some sort. You should try and boot without the splash screen ( I hate that splash) and it will detail what's happening04:51
Sentynellast time that happened to me my graphics drivers were rogered04:51
DaskreechYou can see what is failing04:51
Sentynelaccidentally built the module with gold enabled04:51
c2tarunDaskreech, yeah, dont know why that was happening, but I think that started happening after I used a mobile broadband connection.04:51
DarthFrogxboxowns:  Mac OS X is based on Darwin, not Linux.  Darwin is a derivative of FreeBSD (BSD = Bezerkely Systems Distribution).  BSD is a true UNIX.  Linux is a UNIX work-alike.04:51
DaskreechSentynel: Quite a likely issue but I wouldn't say that's what the problem is04:51
Sentynelc2tarun: that might have loaded in a wonky kernel module for drivers or something04:51
xboxownsI tried mac OS x04:52
xboxownsit feeeeel soo good04:52
Daskreechc2tarun: ok so that's screwed and you reinstalled. What happened on reinstall?04:52
xboxownsloooks great04:52
c2tarunSentynel, Daskreech, after I disconnected that mobile broadband, I was facing weird errors, like no plasmoid no dolphin is opening. I have to reboot from yakuake04:52
xboxownsand seem to kick windows on the butt very hard04:52
Daskreechc2tarun: oh wow ... that's messing with dbus at the very least04:53
c2tarunDaskreech, I decided to change my home partition because that home partition I was sharing with another kubuntu version. so I mounted a formatted partition and then it caused the crashes :/04:53
Daskreechsame place ?04:54
c2tarunDaskreech, actually I didn't mounted the  partition while installation :( I mounted it later by editing /etc/fstab04:54
xboxownsYou know if it wasn't for the fact that windows truly dominate the software industry let us be honest, macOS x truly is the best OS out there.04:54
c2tarunpartition==home partition04:54
Daskreechc2tarun: ok04:56
DaskreechYou have autologin ?04:57
Daskreechxboxowns: Domination and best don't have to be contrasted. They don't have much to do with each other04:57
xboxownssadly true04:57
Newbiathonfor this tutorial: " http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#start " it wants me to login as su but kubuntu isn't a fan of that, so how would i unzip the file to a root folder using sudo?05:01
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DaskreechHi Newbiathon05:01
Newbiathonhi again05:01
Newbiathoni downloaded the zip to my /home/user/downloads05:01
Newbiathonany help with that?05:02
DaskreechNewbiathon: Right. why do you need root to unzip it?05:02
Newbiathonxampp has to be installed in root05:02
Newbiathonroot want let me unzip it05:03
Newbiathondid you see step 2 on that link?05:03
DaskreechNewbiathon: Right and that doesn't work for you?05:03
Newbiathoni can't log into su05:04
Daskreechthat's step 305:04
Newbiathonall i do is type su right?05:04
DaskreechI'm checking if you got through step 2 ok05:04
Newbiathonno man, step 205:04
Newbiathonyeah05:04
Newbiathoninstallation, first step is to log into su05:04
Daskreechso it's extracted to it's own directory ?05:04
Newbiathonsu: Authentication failure05:05
DaskreechNewbiathon: Hold up are we on the same page?05:05
DaskreechFirst step is download05:05
Daskreech step two is extract05:05
Daskreechstep three is start upgrade05:05
Newbiathonyeah i downloaded to home/user/download05:05
Newbiathonnow i need to extract05:05
Daskreechyou don't need su to do that05:05
Newbiathoni tried to move the zip file into root folder05:05
Newbiathonwouldn't let me05:06
Daskreechoh05:06
Daskreechwell yeah you aren't root :)05:06
Daskreechsudo -i05:06
Newbiathonyeah i was asking how to unzip it using sudo05:06
Daskreechyour prompt should change from $ to #05:06
Newbiathonwhat does -i do?05:06
Daskreechruns an inital login sequence05:07
Daskreechpress alt+F2 and type man sudo05:07
DaskreechWill give you the help file for the command05:07
DaskreechUmm05:07
Daskreechman:/sudo05:07
Daskreechc2tarun: You there?05:09
Newbiathonok so i sudo -i  tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt05:09
Newbiathonor sudo -i then do something else?05:09
DaskreechNewbiathon: no just type sudo -i05:09
DaskreechYour prompt should change from $ to #05:09
Daskreechthat indicates that you are root05:09
Newbiathonah ok now im root05:09
DaskreechNewbiathon: There you go.05:09
Daskreech!root05:09
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:10
Newbiathonyeah root@05:10
Newbiathonsudo +i to go back?05:10
Newbiathonnow how do i extract05:11
Newbiathonthe command they have doesn't work05:11
Newbiathonor should i move the zip file to the root folder?05:11
DaskreechNewbiathon: I have no idea what you are doing but I'm pretty sure that you are just running commands with out any idea what they are doing05:15
Newbiathonno im not05:15
Newbiathoni logged back into my user05:15
DaskreechWhat command doesn't work?05:15
Newbiathonthe unzip command lol05:15
Newbiathontar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt05:16
Newbiathonthat05:16
Newbiathonits in the tutorial05:16
DaskreechNewbiathon: what's the error?05:16
Newbiathonim suppose to run that from root but saying "no such directory"05:16
Newbiathondo i need to create an /opt folder first05:16
Newbiathonin the root folder?05:16
Daskreechtype ls /opt05:17
Daskreechdoes it throw an error?05:17
Newbiathonyes05:17
Newbiathontar (child): xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:17
DaskreechWhat does it say?05:17
DaskreechNewbiathon: what does ls xampp* say?05:18
Newbiathonso im guessing i need to make the /opt folder05:18
DaskreechNewbiathon: No it's saying there is no archive05:19
Newbiathonno such dir05:19
Newbiathonon root and user05:19
Newbiathonthe zip is just sitting in my /home/user/downloads05:19
DaskreechNewbiathon: What does pwd say?05:20
Newbiathonspecify05:20
Newbiathonit says to extract it to the /opt folder05:21
Newbiathonin the instructions05:21
Newbiathonhere is what i need to know ok: how do i unzip my downloaded zip file into /opt05:22
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Newbiathonthat is all i need to know05:22
Newbiathonthe zip file was downloaded to /home/user/downloads05:23
c2tarunDaskreech, yeah05:23
Newbiathonmy ? is... do i need to make the /opt file? do i need to move the zip i downloaded to root?05:23
c2tarunDaskreech, ping05:24
Daskreechpong05:25
DaskreechNewbiathon: type pwd05:25
Daskreechwhat does that say?05:25
c2tarunDaskreech, you asked for me?05:25
Newbiathonin terminal? as root? as user?05:25
DaskreechNewbiathon: in terminal it doesn't matter who you are05:26
Newbiathonit says home/user05:26
Daskreechc2tarun: I asked if you were auto logging in?05:26
Newbiathonthat is all05:26
DaskreechNewbiathon: type cd downloads05:26
c2tarunDaskreech, auto logging in kubuntu?05:26
Daskreechc2tarun: yes05:26
Newbiathonno such directory05:26
c2tarunDaskreech, nope, I am entering password and then logging in.05:27
Newbiathonshould i sudo cd downloads?05:27
DaskreechNewbiathon: no05:27
Newbiathonk05:27
Newbiathon-bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory05:27
DaskreechNewbiathon: cd Downloads05:27
Newbiathonah D05:27
Newbiathonok then i type dir and see xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz05:28
Daskreechc2tarun: it was crashing before that point?05:29
DaskreechNewbiathon: run your tar command now05:29
Newbiathonah ok05:29
c2tarunDaskreech, nope, just after I enter password and when panel appears after few seconds05:30
Newbiathontar: lampp: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied05:30
Daskreechc2tarun: Ok yeah that was home directory problem then05:30
Newbiathonneed to go into root05:30
Newbiathongotcha05:30
DaskreechNewbiathon: ok now type sudo -i and try it05:30
c2tarunDaskreech, yup, I'll fix it :) meanwhile ubuntu supports my bluetooth headset :) so I am enjoying it at the moment.05:31
Daskreechc2tarun: nice :)05:33
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Newbiathonhah, im a genius root@domain: cd /home/user/Downloads then the command yay05:34
Newbiathonthnx daskreech05:34
Newbiathongood to know the commands i guess05:34
Newbiathonso i can only run xampp from root?05:35
Newbiathonor now that it is installed, can i just go back to the old sudo start/stop option05:36
DaskreechNewbiathon: either05:37
Newbiathonok cool, im starting to get it now05:37
Newbiathonsudo is kind of a "go around your elbow to get to ass" sort of thing eh?05:38
Newbiathonwhy not just make a root password and switch back and forth as needed05:38
Newbiathonseperate from user pass05:38
Sentynelhaving a whole separate user account is a pain05:39
Sentynelsudo individual commands or sudo su if you want to run a bunch of stuff as root05:39
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Sentynelhaving a separate account requires hopping between accounts if you want to use GUI config tools and stuff and it all gets horribly complicated and people get tempted to just log in as root the whole time and that's BAD05:40
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DaskreechNewbiathon: You can make a root password if you lik05:44
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Newbiathoncan someone explain ssl to me?05:50
Newbiathonthe do's and don'ts05:50
NewbiathonYou can also access your Apache server via SSL under https://localhost." should i do this step?05:50
DaskreechNewbiathon: what do you understand of it?06:10
DarthFrogSSL is Secure Sockets Layer.  In essence, encrypted web transmission.06:10
DarthFrogNewbiathon: The main thing to know about SSL and Apache is that certs are a racket.  They really mean next to nothing but cost a lot more than nothing.  Supposedly a cert ensures that you are who you say you are.  Instead, all it says is you found a certifying authority willing to take your money.06:12
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Unit193Or you found06:14
Unit193http://wiki.cacert.org/06:14
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Newbiathonhey, anyone know the exact location of where to put test page files in xampp07:32
Newbiathonhtdocs07:32
Newbiathon?07:32
DeltaEpsilonhow do I tell Kubntu to copy a folder to my sdcard every hour (overwrite)?07:34
baffone85what can i change language on clibre? i have installed it and now there is arabo07:37
Newbiathonwhat is the terminal cmd to make a file?07:37
Newbiathonlike the mkdir command07:37
DaskreechNewbiathon: A file or a directory?07:41
Newbiathonfile07:41
Newbiathonphp file07:41
Daskreechtouch file.php07:46
Newbiathonok thnx07:46
Daskreechbaffone85: Libreoffice?07:46
DaskreechDeltaEpsilon: look up crontab07:46
Newbiathonnano file.php to edit the script in terminal right?07:51
DaskreechNewbiathon: That works07:51
Newbiathonit says to exit nano is ^exit07:52
Newbiathoni type it and doesn't exit07:52
Newbiathonsorry ^X07:52
Daskreech^ means ctrl07:53
DaskreechM+ means Alt07:54
Daskreechso ^x is Ctrl+x07:54
DaskreechM+A07:54
Daskreechis Alt+A07:54
Newbiathonthnx07:54
Newbiathonim starting to come around07:54
DaskreechFar as I know no one has come up with a cute typeable symbol for the Windows Key07:55
Newbiathonok so i have to put my php files in the htdocs folder inside the lampp folder to test them, however i don't want to stay logged in as root07:56
Newbiathonis there a way to work in my user account and save files to the htdoc folder on the root account07:57
Newbiathonto test?07:57
DaskreechIf you are logged in as root now type logout07:57
Newbiathonyeah i got all that figured out07:57
Daskreechor press ^D on an empty prompt07:57
Newbiathonhow to login logout etc..07:58
Newbiathoni just don't want to have to work in root07:58
Newbiathonbut i like to test as i go along07:58
DaskreechSure edit files as your self and save in your directory then switch to root and move it to root directory then switch back to your user07:59
Newbiathonso if im in /home/user/phpwork and want to save as my files to /opt/lampp/htdocs07:59
Newbiathonok07:59
Newbiathoni just didn't know if there was a easier way07:59
reisidoes anyone know if kmail2 (in RC phase) is being packaged for kubuntu 11.04 in some ppa or similar?08:01
Newbiathonhow come when i type users i see two of my user account?08:01
DaskreechNewbiathon: do you have two terminals open?08:03
faLUCEhi. How can I sniff data incoming in /dev/video0 ?08:07
Daskreechcat ?08:10
faLUCEDaskreech: _sniff_ means that the resource is busy08:11
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reisifaLUCE: could you explain what you mean by sniffing?08:26
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hyper_chhi there, is there a way to get TTS to work?08:36
Newbiathonok if im logged in as root and wanted to give a user all access to one folder, how?08:37
fayazNewbiathon: the owner of the folder usually has all access...08:39
Newbiathonyes, xampp has to be run in root08:39
Newbiathoni want to let my user account have all access to the htdocs folder08:40
Newbiathonso i can work in user basic account but still save files to htdoc in the root folder08:40
Newbiathoncan i do that08:40
fayazNewbiathon: either change the ownership of the folder08:41
fayazor add the user to the group owning that folder08:41
Newbiathonthat is what i want to do08:41
Newbiathonthe 2nd option08:41
Newbiathonadd a user08:41
Newbiathonjust to that one folder08:41
Newbiathonso i can work in bluefish in my reg account but still save files to the htdocs folder in the root account08:42
fayazcheck the properties for that folder...08:42
Newbiathonhow in terminal08:43
Newbiathonor kate or what?08:43
Newbiathonwalk me through it08:43
fayazopen some file browser and navigate to the folder08:43
fayazright-click and select "Properties"08:45
fayazNewbiathon: ?08:45
Newbiathonk08:45
Newbiathonnow what?08:46
fayaztake the "Permissions" tab08:46
fayazin the "Ownership" section08:46
fayazmake a note of which "Group" it is assigned to08:46
Newbiathongroup: root08:47
Newbiathonxampp has to run from root08:47
fayazwhat is xampp?08:47
fayaznever mind08:48
fayazit's probably not safe to add a normal user to the 'root' group08:48
Newbiathonit's a lampp server08:48
Newbiathonoh ok08:48
Newbiathonwell durn08:49
fayaztry to create a new group...08:49
fayaz'xampp' maybe?08:49
fayazadd the desired user to that group08:49
fayazand change the folder's ownership to that group08:49
Newbiathonyeah but that folder is what xampp goes to get your sites08:49
fayazNewbiathon: so?08:50
Newbiathonwhy is it so unsafe to surf as nonroot?08:50
fayazNewbiathon: you mean root?08:51
Newbiathonyeah08:51
Newbiathonmy bad08:51
fayazplain paranoia mostly :P08:51
fayazNewbiathon: but its usually a good practice not to have too much authorization while normally using the system08:52
fayazit reduces chances for accidental damage08:53
fayazeg: deleting some critical system file...08:54
Newbiathonwell it is a pain in the ass every time i want to test to have to log over to root and copy and paste my work08:54
fayazNewbiathon: what about sudo?08:54
fayazdoesn't that work?08:54
Newbiathonhow can i do that08:54
Newbiathoni think yeah but don't know the command08:55
fayazsimply "sudo <anycommand>"08:55
fayazit'll ask for your user password once...08:55
Newbiathonso what would be the command to do what i want08:56
Newbiathonafter sudo08:56
Newbiathon/opt/lampp/htdocs is the folder i want to save files to08:57
Newbiathonfrom bluefish in /home/user08:57
fayaz"sudo cp /path/to/myfile /path/to/htdocs"08:57
Newbiathonwhen i click file save as in the ui access denied08:57
Newbiathonoh ok08:58
Newbiathonstill rather annoying08:58
Newbiathonhow can i make a keyboard macro08:58
Newbiathonill be using this quite frequently08:58
fayazrather you grant access to the htdocs folder then...08:58
Newbiathonwell if i knew where to set a macro  up it would be easy09:00
Newbiathonlike an alias09:00
fayazstill you'd need to enter your password for that...09:01
Newbiathonwhere i type a button on my keyboard and it pastes sudo cp /path etc..09:01
Newbiathoni could make another macro for pass09:01
Newbiathonso i just hit 2 buttons09:01
Newbiathonand done09:01
fayazNewbiathon: i don't think that's possible...09:01
fayazpasswords are supposed to be entered properly09:02
Newbiathonok09:02
Newbiathonwell i don't mind typing the pass09:02
Newbiathonbut still want a macro for cs09:02
Newbiathoncp&09:02
Newbiathoncp*09:02
fayazokay, you simply need to put your alias command in the ~/.bashrc file09:03
Newbiathonhow do i get to it09:03
fayazNewbiathon: get to what?09:04
Newbiathon../.bash09:04
fayazit's just a hidden file on your home folder09:04
fayazhome folder = ~09:05
fayazsimply open ".bashrc" from there09:05
Newbiathonwhat about sys settings/shortcuts09:05
Newbiathonshortcuts and gestures09:05
fayazthat would work too...09:07
fayazNewbiathon: wait... then you'd probably need kdesudo09:10
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DeltaEpsilonlove kubuntu so far10:31
DeltaEpsilon:-)10:31
pider55Hi, my amarok do not work any more, i tried to reinstall, but it did not help, I try to play music (mp3) and amarok just shut down, run from terminal I get this: http://pastebin.com/21xz2cib When I run debug amarok I get this: http://pastebin.com/JryXj6At Can anyone help, please!10:53
Peace-say the true10:54
Peace-you have upgraded amarok with some  weird ppa10:54
Peace-remove ppa10:54
Peace-remove amaro10:54
Peace-reinstall amarok10:54
Peace-= fixed10:54
pider55I try that10:54
Peace-removed all the crap on $HOME/.kde/share/apps/amarok ?10:55
Peace-and  $HOME/.kde/share/config/amarok ?10:56
pider55I cannot find any ppa to remove10:56
Peace-pider55: before it worked?10:56
DeltaEpsilonRekonq alone is using 35% of my cpu. :(10:57
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: cpu? ram?10:57
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: dual core?10:57
Peace-video bugs? flash ?10:57
pider55Yes, amarok used to work ok, I did move home to another disk, but I did not move my music folder10:58
DeltaEpsiloni3 350m 2.2ghz with ht.  with 6gb of ram10:59
DeltaEpsilonPeace-: I have one tab of youtube open10:59
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: ok that is a bug then10:59
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: rekonq for me is a joke10:59
Peace-i use firefox10:59
DeltaEpsilonPeace-: Rekonq integrates well in kde 410:59
DeltaEpsilonfirefox looks very ugly in kde11:00
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: really ? hahahah nope man11:00
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/01/plasma-desktopPl1862.jpg11:00
DeltaEpsilonPeace-: what firefox theme is that?11:01
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/01/plasma-desktopjU1862.jpg11:01
ileahi all11:07
pider55Peace: did not help to remove files and reinstall11:07
DeltaEpsilonPeace-: can't find it11:07
ileawhy after i boot kubuntu i configure the dsl and after i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to conect and it dosnt work with konsole11:08
ileahelp at this please11:08
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=11796211:08
ileawhy when i want to conect via dsl pppoe after i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to click on it and conect ?11:12
ileaand it dosnt work with the konsole11:12
ileaplease help11:12
moetunes!pppoe11:13
ubottuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE11:13
moetunesbest I can do11:13
moetunes:)11:13
DeltaEpsilonfirefox sucks in kde411:15
DeltaEpsilonRekonq is uch better11:15
DeltaEpsilonI feel sleepy :(11:16
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: i have dual core with 1.5 gig of ram11:30
Peace-DeltaEpsilon: firefox rocks11:30
c2tarunI installed ubuntu yesterday due to problem in KDE :( it isn't even 24 hrs and I am already missing plamoids :(11:47
c2tarunplasmoids11:47
c2tarunanyone here installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu? Because I can feel that ubuntu is bit faster than kubuntu, it starts and shutdown quickly.11:49
Tm_Tc2tarun: sure you can install it, although Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop is pretty much Kubuntu+ubuntu-desktop11:53
c2tarunTm_T, but what about speed? will ubuntu speed will be retained?11:54
Tm_Tc2tarun: no12:06
c2tarunTm_T, you mean it will get slower?12:08
fayazc2tarun: Tm_T i think it's true...12:10
fayazi have kubuntu in my laptop12:10
Tm_Tc2tarun: ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect the speed of kubuntu-desktop, and vice vers12:10
fayazand ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop at office12:10
c2tarunTm_T, thats good :) I'll install kubuntu-desktop today :)12:11
fayazthe office computer seems faster...12:11
fayazany chances of configuration changes?12:17
wintellectOk, weird question. I originally had Ubuntu on a box and then installed "kubuntu-desktop". Is there any way to remove the gnome desktop and such so I'm left with KDE and any gnome apps installed?12:23
ArchangelSe7enwintellect, depends on which version but generally "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop12:25
Taggnostrduring the last distupgrade something went wrong and now kde doesn't start anymore. I tried a few things but didn't manage to fix the problem, so I was thinking about reinstalling everything from scratch. Is it possible to avoid formatting and reinstalling kubuntu "over" the one that is currently installed?12:30
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soeeTaggnostr, what do you mean by  " kde doesn't start anymore" any errors ?12:36
Taggnostrsoee, when I enter my user/pass there's a loading window in the middle of the screen with 5 icons, and the last one is the KDE icon. When it reaches it, it just stops there12:38
soeeTaggnostr, few days had something similiar but after all i was manage to run black screen when windows were opend but plasma was crashed12:39
Taggnostrsoee, I installed fluxbox and it works fine. If you know where I can check for errors or something else I could try to do to fix the problem, please tell12:39
soeei fix this by removing kde configuation12:40
Taggnostrwhere do I find it?12:40
soeeso i had to setup my desktop again but no need to reisntall12:40
wintellectthanks ArchangelSe7en12:40
ArchangelSe7enyou're welcome12:41
soeeTaggnostr, i think it was .kde/share/config in home dir12:41
soeeah indeed it was config folder as i have old backaup :)12:42
Taggnostrsoee, there are several files there, which one should I pick? (and should I delete it?)12:42
soeeTaggnostr, i removed whole folder (before backup it)12:42
soeeit willbe create from scratch12:42
Taggnostrsoee, I also have ~/.kde412:43
soeeTaggnostr, i do not, what kde version are you using ?12:44
Taggnostrkde 4.6.212:45
soeeanyway try to comment both dirs - add __ at the name begining12:45
Taggnostrok12:45
soeeand restart pc and see if they both are recreated12:45
soeeim on 4.6.312:45
soee2 months ago fresh Kubuntu 11.04 installed12:45
TaggnostrI distupgraded this machine a couple of times already12:46
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Taggnostrsoee, that didn't seem to fix the problem12:57
ert65hi to all, i have a problem :S i use a vlc to play a mkv movies and when movies starts everything is perfect till one moment when the films stops and i must restart my computer. My video card is ati radeon hd mobility 450012:57
apersonert65☛ I have that issue with vlc too, it seems to sometimes eat up all my ram12:58
apersonand then it starts eating up swap12:58
ert65i have 3 gb ram and 3 gb swap12:59
ert65is it that posiblle12:59
apersonand I have 4gb of ram and 6gb of swap12:59
ert65is it that possible12:59
ert65:X12:59
ert65and solution is....?12:59
apersonI just kill vlc13:01
ert65but i can't do anything when that happens13:02
ert65how can i kill vlc13:02
Ddpbfpgrep vlc13:02
apersonI usually hop into a tty and pkill -9 vlc13:02
Ddpbfkill -9 <number you got>13:02
apersonor just use pkill ;)13:03
ert65is there some way to prevent this issue13:03
ert65?13:03
apersonif I knew I would've told you13:03
ert65:S13:04
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BluesKajHi all13:13
Peace-BluesKaj: hye13:14
Peace-apachelogger:13:14
Peace-apachelogger: do you know about javascript stuff?13:14
Peace-something ?13:15
Taggnostrsoee, found a solution: last post on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1462745.html13:17
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ert65maybe the question is very stupid but i'm a newbie and want to ask how can i open a shared windows xp directory on my kubuntu the both machines are in network trough a ruoter13:43
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BluesKajert65, open dolphin ,under places choose network , choose  add network folder , microsoft network drive , name of the xp pc then it's IP address , then the shared folder that you have already shared on the windows pc13:54
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BluesKajno patience , as usual the instant gratification syndrome raises it's ugly head14:12
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KostanakisIs here anybody Russian?14:59
Pici!ru15:00
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:00
Kostanakisthanks15:00
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ahoxHi, my desktop computer won't go into suspend when using the kmenu/krunner, however pm-suspend works. Any ideas how to use it directly from kde?16:00
BluesKajahox, systemsettings/power management16:08
ahoxBluesKaj: I don't really see there anything that would let me enable sleep mode16:09
BluesKajahox, suspend session ?16:11
ahoxBluesKaj: is checked with After 1 Min sleep. But my problem is that the sleep does not work from within kde16:11
ahoxeven when using it from the kmenu or krunner16:12
BluesKajahox, well, sorry I dunno how else to help... I don't bother with sleep modes on our laptop or pcs16:13
ahoxah, I just found out that the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh is runnable as normal user, so I will use that... better than nothing I guess16:16
ahoxor not...16:19
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amichairis there an ntfs defragmenter for linux?16:35
EldonGDoes anybody here play Diablo 2 on Kubuntu?16:36
razorsharpamichair, i don't think so. even if there are one, i would not recommend it.16:43
amichairrazorsharp: why not?16:44
mr-richHow can I tell if my DVD drive can burn double layer disks?16:44
mr-richamgarching: because reading/writing NTFS in linux is guessing game ... they got it *mostly* right ...16:46
razorsharprazorsharp, ntfs is a propertiary format, the only way we know about the structure is by reverse engineering + trial & error. it's not safe.16:46
amichairrazorsharp: well the ntfs drivers are stable as any for read/write for a few years now... why would a defragger be much different?16:47
mr-richamichair: there could be a few hidden suprises that M$ put in there that could potentially screw up the whole fs ... no recovery ...16:49
razorsharpamichair, i just don't trust it that much. just my opinion. that and i lost a whole 1 TB drive in 2009 just after writing to it.16:50
amichairmr-rich: that's possible, but would probably be found in starndard testing during development or shortly thereafter. In any case, if there is no such defragger, the discussion is moot :-)16:50
marxjohnsonI've just installed the UbuntuBeta Mono font, but it doesn't appear on the list of fixed width fonts in the System Settings font selector. Is that likely to be a problem with  KDE, or the packaging of the font?16:52
amichairmarxjohnson: maybe you need to update the font cache?16:54
marxjohnsonamichair: it  appears on the full list of fonts. I've tried logging out and in again to no avail, and I can reproduce the problem on another machine16:55
odaTES16:57
amichairmarxjohnson: in that case, I don't know where the problem might lie... maybe someone else can help16:58
marxjohnsonamichair: Ok ty anyway. I'll file a bug and see if I get any pointers :-)16:58
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LABcrab!ubotu17:15
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots17:15
alex___hi everyone.17:55
COSENTRY\jleighnhi17:55
COSENTRY\jleighn.17:55
lindsaymobil22Hey guys17:57
lindsaymobil22I am very impressed with Kubuntu 11.04!17:58
lindsaymobil22However, my ALPS touchpad, even though its recognised, i have no vertical touchpad scrolling working17:58
lindsaymobil22Any help?17:58
alex___lindsaymobil22 try to click on vertical scrolling at right edge in preferense->input devises->touchpad->scrolling18:03
lindsaymobil22alex___: I have....18:03
alex___driver updated?18:04
lindsaymobil22alex___: No new one available18:04
alex___hm...18:04
lindsaymobil22alex___: This is a regression, i had some sort of scrolling working in 10.1018:04
lindsaymobil22And was easy to fix18:05
alex___two fingers scroling don`t works too?18:05
lindsaymobil22alex___: Nope18:05
lindsaymobil22On the mailing list people with similar models of my laptop have this issue18:06
alex___i think it will be fiksed soon18:06
lindsaymobil22alex___: I hope so...Sadly, i cant wait a while18:07
alex___ALPS touchpad isn't capatible with Elantech driver i gues...18:08
nvidiahello i have a problem with my ubuntu, can i ask here or i must join on ubuntu channel ?18:12
DarthFrog!ask18:13
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:13
alex___O_o who's here?18:13
DarthFrogIf it's an Ubuntu problem that's not easily fixed, you'll probably be sent to #Ubuntu, though.18:13
nvidiaok18:14
nvidiai tried to install "Kopete" and i get the next error "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it now" and i chosse Repair.. but after some min i get the failed msg :( how can i remove it.. or how can i remove manual the kopete? pls someone help me :(18:14
DarthFrogKopete is a KDE program and thus this is the suitable place to ask.18:14
alex___why install kopete on ubuntu? don't like empathy?18:15
DarthFrogSorry, I'm of no help to you with that.18:15
nvidiaempathy i don`t like verry much18:16
alex___nvidia: instal the kde in ubuntu firs, then you wila dble to install kopete.18:16
alex___firtst* (sorry for my english)18:17
lindsaymobil22nvidia: This is an odd one, since all the dependencies are met when installing kopete18:17
BluesKajalex___, that's not necessarry18:17
nvidiaalex  i`m begginer on ubunut.. i don`t know very much work in :(18:17
alex___nvidia a'm too =)18:18
nvidiaso how can i remove that error? and use again ubuntu software center?18:18
lindsaymobil22nvidia: Install aptitude via sudo apt-get install aptitude18:19
DarthFrognvidia: Can you open a CLI session?  if so, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".18:19
amichairnvidia: try running "sudo apt-get install -f"18:20
DarthFrogYeah, try that first! :-)18:20
nvidiawhere can i paste the log ?18:20
nvidiahere ?18:20
DarthFrogNo.18:20
DarthFrog!pastebin18:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:20
nvidiaok18:20
nvidiaso.. the first command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/615993/18:21
DarthFrognvidia:  do try amichair's suggestion of "sudo apt-get -f install".18:21
lindsaymobil22I fixed my touchpad!18:23
lindsaymobil22Bye guys18:23
alex___lindsaymobil22 how?18:25
nvidiaDareDevil : look up here18:27
nvidiaDareDevil18:27
nvidiahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/615996/18:27
mfraz74Does anyone know whether burning to blu-ray is possible with Kubuntu? I've seen that k3b supports it, but not using UDF 2.5.18:28
BluesKajnvidia, open a terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install , then run sudo apt-get install kopete18:28
amichairnvidia: you can delete the broken .deb files from the error message (they are just files in a cache), then run 'sudo apt-get update'  and again 'sudo apt-get -f install'18:29
nvidiawhere can i found that files to delete?18:29
alex___some kind of black magic... -_-18:29
amichairnvidia: the ones in the error log you pasted18:30
DarthFrognvidia: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean"18:30
DarthFrogAll on one line.18:30
nvidiadone all 3 lines18:31
DarthFrogIs it working now?18:31
nvidiawait18:31
amichairnvidia: does "apt-get install -f" complete without error?18:31
amichairnvidia: with sudo first, that is18:31
nvidiai have open the ubuntu software center and the error is still there :((18:32
amichairDarthFrog: isn't clean a superset of autoclean?18:32
DarthFrogamichair: Don't know. :-)18:32
DarthFrogDon't think so, though.18:32
amichairDarthFrog: I thought autoclean removes only old versions of packages from the cache, and cleans just removes the whole cache. I may be wrong.18:33
nvidia" Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it now?"18:33
DarthFrogSay yes and pastebin the output.18:33
nvidiaok, now i clicked on "repair"18:33
nvidiain the Progress bar i see : Repairing Broken deps (with status downloading)18:34
nvidiaApplying changes now18:34
nvidiathnks verry much guys :) i`m here  on this problem about 3 4 hours :( and with your help i resolve this problem18:39
nvidiathnkx a lot18:39
SMOSAhola18:39
amichairnvidia: cheers :-)18:40
nvidiau`re the best ;)18:40
DarthFrognvidia:  So does Kopete install properly now?18:41
nvidiaf**k kopete :))) i`ll use empathy :))18:41
amichairI just use pidgin :-)18:41
DarthFrognvidia:  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kopete".18:41
DarthFrognvidia: The best advice we can give you is:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  :-)18:42
nvidiaso DarthFrog  when i browse for kopete in ubuntu soft. i see it but installed18:42
amichairnvidia: by the way, the problem was not with kopete, it was with your package manager's cache (the backend used in both ubuntu and kubuntu)18:42
nvidiaaaa..18:42
DarthFrogExactly.  Under the hood, there's little difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.  And Xubuntu, for that matter.18:42
Kostanakisкак все весело-то)) в автозагрузке нет, а загружается...не человек, не птица, летит и материцца...18:43
nvidiabut an alternative to install appz without ubuntu soft. what is?18:43
DarthFrog!ru | Kostanakis18:43
ubottuKostanakis: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:43
amichairif "sudo apt-get install -f" completes with no error, then kopete installation should be successful, and you can just try running it18:43
nvidiai`m forget about that cmd :))18:43
Ddpbfhow tu build .deb package from an kde app?18:43
nvidiaReading state information... Done18:43
nvidia0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.18:43
alex___Kostanakis: это ты к чему?18:44
BluesKaj!debuild18:44
amichairnvidia: ok, sounds like all is well. You can try running kopete18:44
DdpbfBluesKaj: i know how to make .deb packages18:44
Kostanakisalex, извини, иркой ошибся18:44
Ddpbfi am asking wath to put in rules18:45
nvidiai mean how install appz without use ubuntu software center..18:45
Ddpbfdebian/rules18:45
amichairnvidia: apt-get or aptitude from command line, synaptic for gnome GUI, kpackagekit for kde GUI... they all use the same backend and repositories18:45
nvidiaok, for now i`ll never use ubuntu soft :))18:46
kilaniWhy not?18:46
BluesKajDdpbf, then why did you ask ?18:47
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DdpbfBluesKaj: because i don't know wath to put in debian/rules18:48
Ddpbf*what18:48
BluesKaj!debhelper18:49
Ddpbfyes it is inheresting part18:49
EugenMayeramichair: apt-get and aptitude not always match18:49
nvidianow the ubuntu center is work, i want asking another thing.. i have installed ubuntu yesterday night, and i`m verry beginner on linux.. :) my question is.. how can i know if i have all drivers of my computer installed ? `cuz the sound and wirelles are working without no drivers installed by me.. is some option to see the drivers missing and installed? something like in windows with Device Manager?18:50
Ddpbfwhere to find cmake in debhelper rules18:50
EugenMayernvidia: that is linux. In most cases you dont need to ever install drivers18:50
amichairnvidia: if it's working, the right drivers are installed :-)18:50
nvidiaah.. nice.. verry nice ubuntu :) but the video driver?18:51
nvidiainstalled it too ?18:51
EugenMayerdepends on what you want18:51
EugenMayerthe OS driver is installed, the commercial one is not. Until you dont need to render scenes or play games, you most prob. be fine with the OS ones18:51
amichairnvidia: there is a little utility app for installing proprietary (non open-source) drives, such as nvidia's. In kubuntu it's "Additional Drivers" in the K menu, not sure what it's called in Ubuntu.18:52
nvidiaok, but to play a movie ? can i see it with this?18:52
kilaniWhy Kubuntu 10 64bit has many problems?WLAN  problem-Bluetooth pb-VM box problem -Audio problem?18:52
trampelnvidia: one's education in that area could start with studying the output of "lsmod"18:52
kilaniPlease help18:52
EugenMayernvidia: should be no issues18:52
nvidiaok thnx very much guys ;) u`re the best18:53
EugenMayertrampel: he is a beginner...why carry him to the console..18:53
trampelthe console is where one should begin.  (and perhaps end)18:53
nvidiathe best help what i get in 5 years on internet (about windows)18:53
nvidiai like you :D18:53
EugenMayertrampel: ah you are a nerd. Be it for yourself.18:54
EugenMayertrampel: dont get me wrong, iam also a nerd.18:54
trampelnerds belong here.18:54
EugenMayerno not only nerds do :)18:54
amichairnvidia: for Ubuntu-specific questions, try asking in the #ubuntu channel. This channel is for support with Kubuntu specifically (you can try it out!). Good luck :-)18:54
ovidiushi all. is there a way to test kdepim 4.6 rc2 on my natty system by a ppa?18:54
EugenMayerovidius: yes18:54
EugenMayeruse the experimental ppas18:54
nvidiathnx, have a nice chat :) bye bye18:54
EugenMayerby the way, it works great18:54
EugenMayerdav-support for akonadi and kmail 2 is just perfect18:55
EugenMayerits more stable then 2.6.2/2.6.3 is actually18:55
BluesKajkmail ?, wow kmail totally screwed up when I tried to use it after kde4 , so i gave up and went back to t-bird, but then I decided on gmail and that was then end of pc mail clients for me19:00
DarthFrogI use Thunderbird for Gmail via IMAP.19:01
ovidiusi find kmail great per se. unfortunately, i need caldav support for work, but it is only in kdepim 4.6 :-( so i have to use kmail 2 as well19:02
EugenMayerovidius: caldav is in 2.6.3 already19:02
EugenMayeruse "remote folders"19:02
EugenMayerits working fine. Just carddav ist broken19:02
ovidiusah, ok. i will have a look right now ;-)19:03
EugenMayer(for 2.6.3 you would need to use dav2fs for caldav support + local folders19:03
EugenMayerdont use kcaldav - its broken19:03
EugenMayerat least compiled against 2.6.3. you best bet by far is the exp. ppas with the rc2 pims stuff19:03
ovidius@eugenmayer i figured out that kcaldav is broken by trying it...19:03
EugenMayerthose work pretty good19:04
EugenMayerovidius: same did i19:04
EugenMayeri just KDE back in 3.0 times and switched from unity19:04
EugenMayerits really odd to see KDE still crashes that often.19:04
EugenMayercompared to gnome, the stability is just crap definition19:05
EugenMayerbut the way you can configure KDE and the new expose with search is just > all19:05
ovidiusyeah, kcaldav seems to be a major stability killer19:05
EugenMayerpim is also great, but i still miss  a sipphone wit kaddress support ( twinkle is crap, qutecom does not hve the support and sflphone does not support proxies :/ )19:06
EugenMayerno its not caldav, its KDE :)19:06
EugenMayerits KDE since 3.519:06
EugenMayergreat swt abstraction, nice interfaces - crap quality. Thats KDE is 3 words :)19:07
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BluesKajprobs with kmail is not enough to make me switch to ubuntu /gnome /unity or whatever ubuntu is serving up nowadays :)19:11
ovidiusso, kdepim 4.6 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental, yes?19:11
EugenMayerovidius: yes19:12
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EugenMayerBluesKaj: well i would love to use Fedora + gnome3 + some tweaks, but well not working 2 well on my hw19:12
EugenMayerAt least its stable. The evolution-data (pim) integration is "ok", at least the level of rc2 of KDE.19:13
EugenMayerbut evolution is so ***** crap.19:13
H3tw3rkthello19:14
H3tw3rkti was wondering it there a fix for 11.04 and using the nvidia 270 drivver yet ?19:14
* H3tw3rkt or are there only ati people in here?19:15
EugenMayerme19:15
EugenMayerand nvidia should be much easiert then ATI :) Ati is pain in the ass... and i have even a hybrid with intel19:15
H3tw3rktafter my install and driver update my desktop screen went .. lets make things fuzzy19:16
H3tw3rktsnowy even19:16
ovidiushad a laptop with nvidia/intel gfx card combo, before this one. wasn't fun with the nvidia bug and missing intel 3d support :-(19:21
ovidiushave an ati card now :-)19:21
H3tw3rktfrom what i pick up at google the problem is still there right ? i had to force myself in a gnome install :P19:22
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ovidiusi don't now. it was there 2 weeks ago19:28
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ovidiusok, kubuntu experimental ppa and kdepim 4.6 -> caldav support in quasi no time. even kmail update, seems to have worked19:30
ovidiusi hope it does not get me that high cpu load that the beta versions had ...19:33
cousin_mariohello19:56
Linkmasterhey19:56
cousin_marioknow of a PPA with beta nvidia drivers?19:57
genii-aroundThe xorg-edgers19:59
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Zoloradohi20:09
ZoloradoI need some help with Kubuntu20:09
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Zoloradosomebody can help me?20:09
cousin_mariogenii-around: thanks, but seems to me it only offers OSS drivers20:11
cousin_marioI mean, is there package for nvidia 275.09?20:12
ryrychhi, how can I disable global menu for Firefox and restore Firefox’s orange menu?20:12
ovidiusno globalmenu in firefox only?20:13
ovidiusor no globalmenu at all for all apps?20:13
ryrychovidius: no global menu in fx20:14
ovidiusin the first case: remove firefox-globalmenu package20:14
ryrychok, let me try20:15
ZoloradoI just installed the Kubuntu 11.04 but I can not install packages, it says, that a package manager is already running... but I did not start anything20:15
Zoloradoanibody idees?20:15
cousin_marioZolorado: perhaps it's just the auto update running20:16
cousin_marioZolorado: how long has this been going on?20:16
ryrychovidius: it works! thanks :)20:17
Zoloradocousin_mario: after installation I just started the update, that could not completed, couse some error, then I closed update, and can not install any package20:17
Zoloradocousin_mario: I did not install any programs20:18
Zoloradocousin_mario: what is the process name of the autoupgrade?20:20
cousin_marioZolorado: not sure on kde, I've switched only recently20:20
cousin_marioZolorado: possibly packagekitd20:21
ct529hi! I have a 20GB file and I am trying to copy it to an external USB storage disk20:21
ct529it keeps failing with Error splicing file: File too large20:21
ct529anyone who can help?20:21
cousin_marioct529: is it FAT?20:21
cousin_mariothe external drive, I mean20:22
ct529cousin_mario: yes (I thought you mean whether I am fat :) ...)20:22
cousin_marioct529: FAT can't handle files larger than 4GB20:23
Zoloradocousin_mario: I killed all of the progresses "pack*", but still doesn't works20:23
cousin_marioso, either you split it somehow or change FS20:23
cousin_marioct529: ^20:23
ct529cousin_mario: ouch .... i have not used fat for more than 10y .... so what can I do? it is the only external backup device I have .... grrrrr!20:23
cousin_marioZolorado: ps ax and paste the result on pastebin20:24
ct529cousin_mario: can't change, it is the office one .... I cna decide what to put on my desktop / laptop (so you can imagine what I have installed :D) but not on external storage devices20:24
cousin_marioct529: 4GB was a sane limit 10 years ago:)20:24
cousin_marioct529: then you'll have to split the file20:24
cousin_mariopossibly make a multivolume archive20:24
ct529cousin_mario: Is there a command? I never had to do it before ....20:25
ct529cousin_mario: that is is there a command under linux ....20:25
cousin_marioct529: I had to do it for my backup, but can't remember how I did it20:25
cousin_marioct529: your best bet is to use zip or something like that, though20:25
Zoloradocousin_mario:  ax? what that mean? sorry, I'm new in linux20:27
gio_gtct529: I just entered now, I missed the first part of your question, what do you want to do?20:27
ct529cousin_mario: trying to back up a 20Gb file on a USB FAT external storage :(20:28
cousin_marioct529: yes, I suggest you create a multi-volume archive20:29
cousin_mariomaybe without compression20:29
gio_gtct529: I use 7z for that, it works fine20:29
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ct529cousin_mario: how do I create it? is there a tool?20:34
ct529gio_gt: 7z? is it a linux compressor?20:35
cousin_marioct529:I remember using file-roller on gnome, but you can indeed use 7z, zip, rar from command line20:35
ct529cousin_mario: ok, I will try thanks a lot!20:38
cousin_marioct529: I also recommend you don't create the archive directly on the external drive or it will take forever20:39
cousin_mariocreate locally then copy20:39
ct529cousin_mario: yep!20:40
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Zoloradocousin_mario: http://pastebin.com/xQA6kTga20:41
cousin_marioZolorado: and you say that "sudo apt-get update" fails?20:45
Zoloradocousin_mario:  fails. it asks me to run „sudo dpkg --configure -a”20:47
cousin_marioZolorado: well, what happens when you do that?20:48
cousin_marioZolorado: did you upgrade to natty ?20:48
cablopi am new to this kubuntu, i ised kde, but it seems it was a millenium ago20:49
cablopi was editing the panels and then it is not working, all what i have is the panels visible, all is freezed and something is blinking in the right side of the new panel20:49
Zoloradocousin_mario:  thoose natty upgrades were "ignored"20:51
cablopwhere can i rempove thatpanel or how to make things work again?20:51
CombatjuanHowdy.  How do I make my pager plasmoid show previews of the desktops?20:52
Zoloradocousin_mario: now it makes something... setting up apps20:52
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Zoloradocousin_mario:  now it seem working... started to download the package I wanted to install20:55
CombatjuanMaybe I need to have desktop effects enabled to have live previews.20:55
cousin_marioZolorado: good20:56
cousin_mariogn20:56
FirefisheI have an Asus G50V running Ubuntu Lucid.  There is a physical slide-switch on the outside of the laptop for the wireless card.  When I boot into Lucid, with the switch off, I don't have wireless on the desktop (KDE 4.5.x - using nm-applet).  I usually have to reboot with the switch on, then all works fine, and can access networks from nm-applet's menu.21:01
FirefisheWhat I want to know is how I can, if I boot with the switch off, re-initialize the wireless without rebooting?21:01
FirefisheMy module output looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616085/21:02
FirefisheIt's an Intel Wi-Fi Link 5100.21:02
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LINKSWORD2lol21:05
LINKSWORD2#kubuntu-offtopic21:06
xboxownsHey guys21:07
alfonsohola21:08
xboxownsI accidentally closed the desktop and task bar below21:08
xboxownshow do I return it back21:08
xboxownsI pressed ctrl-alt-esc by mistake21:08
xboxownsWell it is not mistake more thinking I will receive a task manager21:08
LINKSWORD2xboxows, what version are you running?21:08
xboxownskubuntu 11.04+21:08
LINKSWORD2OK, then it's simple.21:08
xboxowns?21:08
testinatorhi@all21:09
xboxownshi@all???21:09
LINKSWORD2lol21:09
xboxownsis that the solutiopn?21:09
LINKSWORD2Nope.21:09
xboxownsooh21:09
testinatoruups21:09
LINKSWORD2xboxowns: You know what the KDE panels icon looks like, correct?21:09
xboxownserm....21:10
xboxownsno21:10
xboxownsooh21:10
xboxownswait the one on the top right corner?21:10
LINKSWORD2Nevermind. I made a mistake there.21:10
LINKSWORD2Yes, that will work.21:10
xboxownsbut that doesn't show21:10
xboxownseverything is gone21:10
xboxownsexcept this window here21:10
xboxownsand firefox21:10
LINKSWORD2OK, then. Right-click your desktop and click Add Panel.21:10
LINKSWORD2It will have 2 options: Empty Panel or Default Panel.21:11
xboxownsit doesn't work. cause I don't have desktop. Just black background that is it.21:11
xboxownsthe key combination kinda closed everything21:11
xboxownsincluding desktop and taskbar21:11
LINKSWORD2Well, see if right-clicking on the black background will do anything.21:12
xboxownsnothing21:12
xboxownsexcept...erm..sour finger heh21:12
LINKSWORD2:/ Huh?21:12
xboxownsyeah....nothing.21:12
xboxownsI kinda could take snapshot21:12
xboxownsbut even if I saved it...there is no way to get the file21:13
xboxownswait21:13
xboxownsmaybe there is hold on21:13
LINKSWORD2Can you open the terminal?21:13
xboxownshow do you open terminal with key combination?21:13
xboxownslike ctrl-?21:13
LINKSWORD2Ctrl-Alt-T21:13
xboxownsgrrrrrrrrrrr21:14
xboxownsnothing ><21:14
LINKSWORD2KILL THE WINDOWS USER!!!!21:14
LINKSWORD2lol21:14
LINKSWORD2JK21:14
FloodBotK1LINKSWORD2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:14
xboxownssure :d21:14
testinatoris there a .de kubuntu support chanel? (it's21:14
xboxownshehe....this chat channel...is very...erm.....restrictive.21:14
LINKSWORD2... Shove off, Floodbot.21:14
LINKSWORD2xboxowns: May I open a one-to-one chat with you?21:15
xboxownsof course21:15
testinatorit sux trying to describe thins i dont understand in a foreign language21:15
vrubium#join ubuntu21:17
jordan__i have a odd problem i installed wine through my terimal now kpackage wont install anything21:20
jordan__im using kubuntu 11.0421:20
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jordan__sudo apt-get install wine21:21
jordan__then kpack told me to do sudo  dpkg --configure -a21:21
jordan__i did and its not working now21:21
LINKSWORD2Oh, damnit.21:23
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testinatorwhy is kubuntu copying a file (audio/video) from a network source (usb in my router) to /var/tmp/something instead of playing the file?21:24
LINKSWORD2testinator, that is a temporary file directory.21:26
LINKSWORD2I believe you can find your file in that directory by opening the folders indicated by the /var/tmp/something path.21:26
s_p_or_t_ohowdy, i'm trying to stream video via a samba shared folder and the color is off (green) anyone have any ideas?21:26
s_p_or_t_o(kubuntu 11.04 on both machines)21:27
testinatoryour right ... but it doesnt make sense to me ... i want to open the file with vlc for example ... not copying21:28
LINKSWORD2I'm sorry about that. I don't use VLC, so I'm not able to help you with it.21:29
testinatorLINKSWORD2: dragon player is the same21:30
LINKSWORD2I did a minimal install for KDE on my system. Dragon Player is not present.21:30
LINKSWORD2Anyway. I'm sorry that I need to leave right now.21:31
jordan__ok i went to remover wine it said it was not installed when it is installed it seems the ttf-mscorefonts-installer seems to be the problem21:34
jordan__it wont let me go ant further21:35
jordan__weird21:35
jordan__cant hit the ok21:35
jordan__omg im a noob21:37
jordan__all i had to do is hit tab21:37
jordan__see if this fixes it21:38
testinatorgz21:38
jordan__HAHAH its fixed now21:39
jordan__for some reason apt didnt install mic's ttfs?21:40
jordan__hmm21:40
jordan__well its working now21:40
TUXFASThi21:42
testinatorhi21:43
TUXFASTtestinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!121:43
TUXFASTciao21:43
TUXFASTma ke kanale è questo????çççòòòòòò@@@@@@@@ò21:44
testinatorwhy is kubuntu copying a file (audio/video) from a network source (usb in my router) to /var/tmp/something before it plays the the file?21:44
rww!it21:44
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:44
TUXFASTgrazier21:44
jordan__testinator, dont know21:46
testinatordoesnt make sense with a 60 mb > file21:47
jordan__it should be staying in you vm21:47
jordan__no going to your hd21:47
testinatorright21:47
jordan__i dont know21:47
testinatorsome seconds buffering ok, but not the whole ting copying21:48
jordan__i wish i could answer your question21:49
jordan__i just dont know anything about it21:49
testinator;-) me221:49
testinatordont even know where to start my journey to solution21:50
EldonGOk...I need to copy into a folder...under wine...where would I find it?22:11
EldonG...and why can't wine browse the C: drive?  :p22:12
giantpunehey boys.  im using kubuntu 11.04on my laptop.  i dont see a way to disable the touchpad while typing.  does anybody know if there is a setting hidden somewhere for this?22:16
chachangiantpune, that's annoying22:19
giantpuneindeed.  somehow my hands are too small for most things, but just large enough to touch the touchpad while i type22:20
chachangiantpune, xinput22:23
george__giantpune: is your touchpad sinaptics?22:23
giantpunei assume it is george__.  how would i know for sure?22:24
chachangiantpune, xinput list22:24
chachan:)22:24
george__giantpune: if so, search for synaptiks and just tick the optiion that disables touchpad if keyboard activity is detected. You can also choose the delay time to get it working again after stop using the keyboard22:25
giantpuneSynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=10   [slave  pointer  (2)]22:25
ovidiusgiantpune, try synaptiks.22:25
giantpunewoot.  thats works :D22:26
giantpunethanks22:27
chachangiantpune, what did you do?22:27
giantpunetype synaptiks in a terminal and a progam started and put a little icon in the taskbar.  then i clicked on that and it gives some pretty self explanitory and useful optins22:28
chachancool22:28
ovidiusgiantpune, it should run as daemon in your system area or whatever the official name for that area is ;)22:29
chachanI have a ThinkPad and it didn't detect the embedded mouse, but it does detect the touchpad and my external mouse22:31
chachanembedded mouse <- The red stuff in the middle of the keyboard :p22:31
giantpuneit picks up the embedded mouse on my HP perfectly22:32
chachanand xinput does22:32
chachandoes your HP has a embedded mouse like thinkpads? (a little weird button)22:32
giantpunei think it may be  PS/2 Generic Mouse                        id=12   [slave  pointer  (2) "22:33
fester77any swedish helpers in here?22:33
giantpuneits a little blue circle in the middle of my keyboard22:33
fester77im asking for swedes ... because i got this usb modem from ISP telenor .... they provide drives for mac and windows but none for linux ....22:35
chachanfester77, I'm a s/wed/pan one22:36
fester77chachan come again plz22:37
george__Guys, do you know how to listen to mms stream on MPlayer (or front-ends)? I've already tried a lot of players and only totem seems to be albe to handle it...22:37
chachangeorge__, have you tried VCL?22:38
fester77george isnt there a winamp for linux?22:38
fester77foobar perhaps is for linux to22:38
chachangeorge__, I meant VLC, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/22:39
fester77vlc WILL do streams22:39
george__chachan: yes, but vlc is too buggy for me..., it crashes firefox when I try to listen to tune in and vlc mozilla plugin crashes on chromium and does not work on rekonq22:39
fester77chachan ...what was that about my usbmodem for telenor .... u got it working ?22:40
george__fester77:i've tried foobnix..., but I'd rather use less apps, if it worked for, say, amarok, the better.22:41
fester77see im on a emulator trying out linux .... if i go into it full i must know that the modem will work under linux22:41
giantpunegeorge__, ive never tried it.  but google gave me this   http://linuxers.org/howto/how-download-mms-streaming-videos-ubuntu22:41
chachanfester77, I made a joke about the similitude between swedish and spanish, sorry22:41
DeltaEpsilonhow do I play mkv files on Kubuntu?22:44
DeltaEpsilon!mkv22:44
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:44
ovidiusgeorge_, two questions: 1. does mplayer work from terminal? 2. do you have the necessary codes for your stream installed?22:45
fester77how about networking .... now this laptop provides internet on the other laptop thru wifi .... will this one be able to do the same if i go into linux natively?22:45
peteteDeltaEpsilon:  just open it, if you are missing codecs the media player should ask to install them22:45
fester77deltaepsilon .... vlc does mkv files too22:46
fester77get vlc22:46
peteteor smplayer22:46
george__ovidius:i'm using SMPlayer (more options than KMPlayer). The codecs, I've installed kubuntu-restricted, which should be enough. I've installed totem tonight and guess what, it works, it plays mms stream.22:48
DeltaEpsilonthe player does not ask me to install codecs:\22:48
DeltaEpsilonseems vlc has better kde4 support now22:48
DeltaEpsilon:-)22:48
giantpuneDeltaEpsilon, you cant go wrong with the kubuntu-restricted package22:49
fester77how about networking .... now this laptop provides internet on the other laptop thru wifi .... will this one be able to do the same if i go into linux natively?22:49
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petetefester77: you can, but i'm not sure if there is a nice gui for it22:49
giantpuneinstall that, then restart your media player22:50
ovidiusgeorge_, kubuntu-restricted-extras or -addons?22:51
Zoloradohi, my WIFI is very-very-very slow with the Kubuntu 11.04, is there any solution?22:51
george__fester77: on ubuntu, it's very easy to share internet connection. i believe it should be the same for kubuntu (i mean, share a cable connection through wi-fi, like connectify-me on windows)22:51
george__ovidius: I have both.22:51
ovidiusgeorge_, great that how it should be. ;-)22:53
fester77right now 3 thing b4 i go from vbox linux to real machine linux .... 1 can linux and windows boxes network (over wifi). 2 can internet be shared on the linuxbox (sharded over wifi) 3. most importantly .... no shipped drivers for my usbmodem (hdspa) for linux , must be able to use it22:53
giantpune1: yes.  there is samba, ftp, remote desktop, and probably 1000 other different ways to connect them over wifi22:54
petete2. it looks like nm can share a connection, so yes22:56
peteteand 3. buy a new modem :)22:56
giantpune3. boot up a live CD and see if it detects your modem22:56
fester77okey .... last how to set up  a dualboot  win 7 and kubuntu .... dont want to mess up my mbr22:56
giantpunethere arent many things that ship with a CD that contains a driver to install for linux22:56
peteteit will dual boot automatically when you install (k)ubuntu22:57
giantpunethe kubuntu installer will detect windows and do the dualboot stuff for you22:57
ovidiusgerorge_, does "mplayer mms://" in terminal say something normal?22:57
fester77but will the ubuntu (or kububu) whatever .... will it overwrite win7 or just add an entry so it becomes dual boot?22:58
fester77ok .... faiur enough22:58
fester77say this install iso .... can it be run within windows or must i do a real cd and use that?22:59
george__fester77: no. unless you choose to use your entire drive, then it will overwrite windows.23:00
fester77remember some other time i tested ubuntu it was ALL done from within windows til it rebooted23:00
fester77this linux build looks sooo promising ... but its cripled now and its being run from whitin vbox23:01
george__ovidius: That's funny, the terminal returns 404, no stream found to handle url. Ive JUST listen to it with totem!23:01
fester77how much space will i need if i do a decicated partition for this OS .... 8 gig as in this vbox sim or even more ?23:03
george__fester77: it depends, of course.23:04
punedepends on how much you want to give it.  5GB is enough for root for a basic system23:05
fester77sure .... but im hoping the this os will borrow resources from win7 .... i e read partitions that has alot of avi or mp3 ....23:06
puneif you want to install 100000 packages, youll obviously need more space23:07
fester77im a must have a shitload of programs -dude23:07
fester77so then 9 gig23:07
punei setup a virtual machine with a 4gb root and installed a bunch of packages.  when i tried to porform a system update, it ran out of room in the middle of the process and screwed everything up23:08
fester77this virtual one is 8 .... got 2.8 - 3 left23:08
fester77and that not even that muchof programs23:09
puneit also helps if you put /home on a different partition23:09
fester77im going to need a bounh of emultaros/virtualizers23:09
fester77well iĺll research my needs a little .... maybe check back later .... have a good one23:11
EldonGOk...I need help...who knows wine?23:13
george__EldonG: what are you up to?23:18
EldonGI have old Diablo 2 characters I want to copy into the save folder...but I can't find where it's installed...23:19
EldonGI downloaded catfish, to do filesearches, but it doesn't find the files.23:20
DeltaEpsilongod, I am sleepy23:21
george__EldonG: It should be somewhere on /home/user/.wine23:23
george__EldonG: C drive or something like that. Don't know about catfish.23:25
EldonGI find wine under lib32...is that correct?23:25
EldonG...and only one folder there...faked dlls23:26
sourcemakeris there a wiki how to enable opengl and direct rendering?23:27
sourcemakerI am using a Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)23:28
punehehe.  same one that i have sourcemaker23:29
sourcemakerpune: is it working fine for you?23:29
george__EldonG:Look, you have to search at /home/user/.wine23:30
punein the settings, i have "OpenGL" selected in the list, and the "enable direct rendering" box checked23:30
EldonGI'd love to...why isn't it there?  :P23:30
Ddpbfsourcemaker: wich kde?23:30
sourcemakerpune: and you are using opengl not xrender?23:30
punesourcemaker, its in "configure desktop effects"23:30
sourcemakerpune: sure... but when I use opengl... my screen flips 180 and I can't ready any  text...23:31
punemine never did that23:31
EldonGAh...hidden23:32
sourcemakerxrender seems to be ok... but does not use direct rendering23:32
EldonGTHANK YOU.  :)23:32
Ddpbfsourcemaker: sudo apt-get install kde-config-qt-graphicssystem23:33
george__EldonG:cheers.23:33
punesourcemaker, i was close.  my graphics says 945GM, not GME23:33
Ddpbfthen you could choose opengl23:33
EldonGI'm new with Linux.  It's a bit to learn.  :)23:34
punebut it does say express.  so im not sure if mine isthe same as yours.  but this is it sourcemaker    http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9833/desktop5.png23:34
EldonGThanks again, and have a great one.  :)23:35
sourcemakerDdpbf: thanks...I am going to try that23:36
Ddpbfbut be very carefull23:37
Ddpbfit is experimental23:37
Ddpbf:)23:37
Ddpbfi would sugest to install backup DE23:37
Ddpbf:)23:38
puneinstall it while running a liveCD :D23:38
Ddpbfso you could revert change23:38
DdpbfLxDE is pretty small 10 or so megabytes23:38
Ddpbfjust start systemsettings from it (in case something goes wrong)23:39
DaskreechDdpbf: really? I should give it a try what utilities does it ship with?23:44
DdpbfDaskreech: abozt qt-graphicssystem?23:46
Ddpbfit is modul for system settings23:46
DaskreechDdpbf: No I meant LXDE23:46
Ddpbferr it is gtk23:47
Ddpbfit is defective by default23:47
Ddpbf:)23:47

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