[00:00] <Newbiathon> do  what?
[00:00] <Newbiathon> hey also, how do i change my LAMP server to not start on bootup?
[00:01] <Newbiathon> and for some reason it is running on my comp name (host name 127.0.1.1) instead of localhost 127.0.0.1
[00:02] <Newbiathon> weird
[00:02] <melkor> Can I 'browse files' with bluetooth?
[00:02] <Newbiathon> actually it is on both
[00:03] <Newbiathon> i need to turn off the live one (host name
[00:03] <Newbiathon> any help
[00:03] <kal> test
[00:07] <wintellect> kal, did you pass?
[00:10] <kal> funny
[00:10] <wintellect> :)
[00:10] <kal> kde too complex, coming from gnome.
[00:10] <kal> Too many options.
[00:11] <kal> waste too much time configuring.
[00:18] <sithlord48> kal you don't have to configure. but you can if u want :D don't they let you configure gnome? (long time no use it)
[00:18] <kal> Well, not anymore with Gnome 3.
[00:19] <sithlord48> thats right i did try gnome 3.. but only from a live cd i didn't try to change anything
[00:59] <Newbiathon> is anyone good with LAMP servers?
[01:00] <Linkmaster> !anyone | Newbiathon
[01:05] <Aang> hi
[01:05] <Linkmaster> hey
[01:05] <Aang> I'm having problems in KDE on Mint
[01:05] <Aang> KDE has Ubuntu sounds in it for some reason. Why is that and how do I disable it?
[01:09] <Linkmaster> hmm...
[01:12] <Linkmaster> I really don't know D:
[01:13] <Aang> darn it
[01:13] <Linkmaster> You might go to #kde to find out from there
[01:13] <Aang> ok
[01:13] <Aang> on freenode?
[01:13] <Linkmaster> yeah
[01:13] <Aang> k
[01:13] <Aang> guess I'm outta here then
[01:18] <Daskreech> Linkmaster: Wha?
[01:18] <Daskreech> why would #kde know about Ubuntu sounds?
[01:19] <Linkmaster> Because he said he had an issue with KDE making ubuntu sounds
[01:19] <Linkmaster> I figured that some KDE setting I didn't know about was pointing his settings to play ubuntu noises
[01:20] <Daskreech> Yea but that's a packaging issue
[01:20] <Daskreech> not a #kde one
[01:22] <new2net> echo has been running for a week... where does it all go?
[01:47] <Daskreech> new2net: what echo?
[01:52] <new2net> Daskreech: echo like println
[01:52] <new2net> bash
[01:52] <Daskreech> What was the command?
[01:52] <new2net> let me check history 1 sec
[01:56] <new2net> echo -e $RAINBOW $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB $RESET
[01:59] <new2net> seems legit to me ;)
[02:25] <Ddpbf> http://www.qtfm.org/ nov available in kubuntu https://launchpad.net/~dalibor/+archive/ppa-ddpbf/
[02:38] <Daskreech> new2net: I'm thinking decompression bomb might be interesting to get some more details on
[02:54] <Sentynel> Hi guys, any news on when KDE 4.7 beta packages are going to be available in beta backports PPA?
[02:58] <new2net> Daskreech: that sounds like something out of a scifi movie
[03:00] <Daskreech> Sentynel: When Beta 2 comes out
[03:00] <Daskreech> new2net: Or a sneaky bash variable
[03:00] <Daskreech> Reset is also disturbing
[03:00] <Sentynel> Daskreech: alrighty, cheers
[03:00] <Daskreech> Sentynel: that's next week if you are checking up
[03:01] <new2net> Well I have a suspicion I haven't made it past $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB yet.
[03:02] <Daskreech> new2net: Might kill the process
[03:06] <new2net> Daskreech: I suspect $RESET is like "%you win%"
[03:11] <Daskreech> new2net: I suspect $RESET is restart the fuse on the bomb
[03:13] <new2net> k I killed it ;) nothing but null bytes for the last 6 days anyways.
[04:06] <LINKSWORD2> Feels dead right now...
[04:16] <Aang> back
[04:31] <Daskreech> Aang: Worked out?
[04:31] <xboxowns> I seeeeeriously love kubuntu..it is truly the coolest OS out there
[04:32] <xboxowns> anyways I need someone to help me with a little problem running vmplayer
[04:32] <Linkmaster> what is it?
[04:32] <Aang> nope. they're still there. someoone on the mint forum suggested I remove the ubuntu folder from my sounds folder
[04:32] <Aang> didn't do anything
[04:32] <Daskreech> Aang: still sounds like a package error. do you have any KDE sounds?
[04:32] <Aang> yeah. but they're all disabled
[04:32] <Daskreech> xboxowns: waiting....
[04:32] <Aang> I COULD enable them but I don't wanna
[04:33] <xboxowns> When I run it it prompts a message "before you can run vmware, several modules must be compile and loaded into kernal..
[04:33] <Daskreech> Aang: Oh problem solved then
[04:33] <xboxowns> when I attempt to click on install
[04:33] <Aang> no. problem not solved
[04:33] <xboxowns> I get an error message
[04:33] <Daskreech> Where did you install vmware from?
[04:33] <xboxowns> well from the website itself
[04:33] <xboxowns> the one that developed it
[04:34] <xboxowns> it says
[04:34] <xboxowns> unable to build kernel module.
[04:34] <xboxowns> I don't know what to do from there
[04:34] <Daskreech> xboxowns: where is the page?
[04:34] <xboxowns> hold on
[04:35] <DarthFrog> xboxowns:  Have you installed the build-essential package?
[04:35] <xboxowns> no
[04:35] <Daskreech> xboxowns: Did you install build-essential ?
[04:35] <xboxowns> where do I get that?
[04:35] <xboxowns> no
[04:35] <DarthFrog> sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[04:35] <xboxowns> hold on
[04:35] <Daskreech> xboxowns: How do you normally do installs for programs?
[04:36] <xboxowns> well
[04:36] <DarthFrog> VMWare requires the ability to compile kernel modules.  Thus you have to have a build environment available.
[04:36] <xboxowns> originally I download programs from website
[04:36] <xboxowns> or I use the build in add/remove program of kubuntu
[04:36] <xboxowns> you know the type in the program to search for and download
[04:36] <xboxowns> kinda thing
[04:36] <xboxowns> well let me try now
[04:37] <xboxowns> amazing
[04:37] <xboxowns> it is working now
[04:37] <xboxowns> what was it that I did before the build-essential
[04:37] <xboxowns> what is that?
[04:38] <Daskreech> !info build-essential
[04:38] <xboxowns> really?
[04:38] <xboxowns> wow
[04:38] <xboxowns> Man...the terminal is a very very very very powerful thing in linux O_O
[04:38] <Daskreech> That's a horrible description
[04:38] <xboxowns> Hey guys is it true that macOS X is linux?
[04:38] <Daskreech> xboxowns: You have been enlightened
[04:38] <Daskreech> xboxowns: no it's not
[04:38] <xboxowns> ooh
[04:38] <xboxowns> but the terminal of macos is identical to linux
[04:40] <c2tarun> my kubuntu natty 64 bit crashed again and again after 4 fresh installations :( I am forced to install ubuntu natty . need help please reply
[04:40] <c2tarun> Daskreech, ping ^^
[04:40] <Daskreech> pong
[04:41] <Daskreech> xboxowns: that still doesn't make it Linux :)
[04:41] <c2tarun> Daskreech, can you help you with my system crash?
[04:41] <xboxowns> Ooh ok ;)
[04:41] <Daskreech> c2tarun: what's wrong?
[04:41] <Sentynel> xboxowns: OSX is a variant of Unix; Linux is a free Unix-like. you can build a lot of GNU software for OSX, and it ships some by default, including the terminal bash
[04:41] <Daskreech> xboxowns: it's UNIX but Linux is not unix
[04:41] <Daskreech> cousins though
[04:41] <xboxowns> Do you guys think one day wine will support .net framework 4 and xna 4.0
[04:41] <xboxowns> So MacOS is unix based?
[04:41] <Sentynel> yes
[04:41] <Aang> i hope so X
[04:41] <Daskreech> xboxowns: one day but you can probably run a lot of it under Mono
[04:42] <xboxowns> So......what we learned from here that using Unix base we can have the friendliest OS like Windows or Mac or more?
[04:42] <c2tarun> Daskreech, dont know, my first my older installation was freezing on kubuntu splash screen, then, I installed again and then after login when the panel appear system crashing after few minutes, with black screen and several lines :(
[04:42] <xboxowns> The reason why I am using vmplayer so I can install Windows in virtual mode...to run things that wine cannot run.
[04:43] <Daskreech> xboxowns: virtualbox can do that as well I think
[04:43] <Daskreech> c2tarun: do you have a /home partition ?
[04:43] <xboxowns> Yup. I just pray wine become 80% windows comaptible application
[04:43] <xboxowns> oh that would be sooooooooooooooo sweeeet
[04:43] <Aang> yeah
[04:44] <c2tarun> Daskreech, yeah
[04:44] <Daskreech> c2tarun: that's your problem
[04:44] <xboxowns> but I am seriously getting comfortable with kubuntu :D It is my favorite alternative OS that is for sure :)
[04:44] <c2tarun> Daskreech, why so, and that same home partition is working fine in ubuntu.
[04:44] <Daskreech> c2tarun: cause you are not using the ~/.kde directory
[04:45] <Aang> @xboxowns ditto
[04:46] <c2tarun> Daskreech, hmm..... I think my home partition don't have that directory. Thanks for pointing :) I'll figure out something
[04:46] <Daskreech> c2tarun: ls ~/.kde and tell me what you see
[04:46] <xboxowns> Is it me or is stewe in family guy is becoming clearly he is gay
[04:46] <Aang> hm
[04:46] <Aang> maybe
[04:46] <xboxowns> I really think stewe in family guy is gay
[04:46] <Daskreech> xboxowns: he's been that way since they started
[04:47] <xboxowns> ah
[04:47] <Daskreech> but that's offtopic in any case
[04:47] <Aang> we should totally move this convo to kubuntu-chat
[04:47] <xboxowns> true
[04:47] <Daskreech> !ot
[04:47] <xboxowns> sorry about that
[04:47] <Daskreech> There is place for that
[04:47] <c2tarun> Daskreech, nothing, its not there.
[04:47] <Daskreech> c2tarun: hmm that's more worrying
[04:47] <Daskreech> So lets go back to the start. You had KDE installed and working fine?
[04:47] <c2tarun> Daskreech, I'll do a fresh installation and then copy the new .kde in my home partition, I think that will fix.
[04:48] <c2tarun> Daskreech, that Kubuntu was freezing on blue screen and with points blinking below it.
[04:49] <Daskreech> c2tarun: this is on login to the desktop?
[04:50] <c2tarun> Daskreech, nope, just before the splash screen we get a blue screen with kubuntu written on it. :/ there it was freezing.
[04:50] <Daskreech> c2tarun: oh that's different then
[04:51] <Daskreech> That's a kernel issue of some sort. You should try and boot without the splash screen ( I hate that splash) and it will detail what's happening
[04:51] <Sentynel> last time that happened to me my graphics drivers were rogered
[04:51] <Daskreech> You can see what is failing
[04:51] <Sentynel> accidentally built the module with gold enabled
[04:51] <c2tarun> Daskreech, yeah, dont know why that was happening, but I think that started happening after I used a mobile broadband connection.
[04:51] <DarthFrog> xboxowns:  Mac OS X is based on Darwin, not Linux.  Darwin is a derivative of FreeBSD (BSD = Bezerkely Systems Distribution).  BSD is a true UNIX.  Linux is a UNIX work-alike.
[04:51] <Daskreech> Sentynel: Quite a likely issue but I wouldn't say that's what the problem is
[04:51] <Sentynel> c2tarun: that might have loaded in a wonky kernel module for drivers or something
[04:52] <xboxowns> I tried mac OS x
[04:52] <xboxowns> it feeeeel soo good
[04:52] <Daskreech> c2tarun: ok so that's screwed and you reinstalled. What happened on reinstall?
[04:52] <xboxowns> loooks great
[04:52] <c2tarun> Sentynel, Daskreech, after I disconnected that mobile broadband, I was facing weird errors, like no plasmoid no dolphin is opening. I have to reboot from yakuake
[04:52] <xboxowns> and seem to kick windows on the butt very hard
[04:53] <Daskreech> c2tarun: oh wow ... that's messing with dbus at the very least
[04:53] <c2tarun> Daskreech, I decided to change my home partition because that home partition I was sharing with another kubuntu version. so I mounted a formatted partition and then it caused the crashes :/
[04:54] <Daskreech> same place ?
[04:54] <c2tarun> Daskreech, actually I didn't mounted the  partition while installation :( I mounted it later by editing /etc/fstab
[04:54] <xboxowns> You know if it wasn't for the fact that windows truly dominate the software industry let us be honest, macOS x truly is the best OS out there.
[04:54] <c2tarun> partition==home partition
[04:56] <Daskreech> c2tarun: ok
[04:57] <Daskreech> You have autologin ?
[04:57] <Daskreech> xboxowns: Domination and best don't have to be contrasted. They don't have much to do with each other
[04:57] <xboxowns> sadly true
[05:01] <Newbiathon> for this tutorial: " http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#start " it wants me to login as su but kubuntu isn't a fan of that, so how would i unzip the file to a root folder using sudo?
[05:01] <Daskreech> Hi Newbiathon
[05:01] <Newbiathon> hi again
[05:01] <Newbiathon> i downloaded the zip to my /home/user/downloads
[05:02] <Newbiathon> any help with that?
[05:02] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: Right. why do you need root to unzip it?
[05:02] <Newbiathon> xampp has to be installed in root
[05:03] <Newbiathon> root want let me unzip it
[05:03] <Newbiathon> did you see step 2 on that link?
[05:03] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: Right and that doesn't work for you?
[05:04] <Newbiathon> i can't log into su
[05:04] <Daskreech> that's step 3
[05:04] <Newbiathon> all i do is type su right?
[05:04] <Daskreech> I'm checking if you got through step 2 ok
[05:04] <Newbiathon> no man, step 2
[05:04] <Newbiathon> yeah
[05:04] <Newbiathon> installation, first step is to log into su
[05:04] <Daskreech> so it's extracted to it's own directory ?
[05:05] <Newbiathon> su: Authentication failure
[05:05] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: Hold up are we on the same page?
[05:05] <Daskreech> First step is download
[05:05] <Daskreech>  step two is extract
[05:05] <Daskreech> step three is start upgrade
[05:05] <Newbiathon> yeah i downloaded to home/user/download
[05:05] <Newbiathon> now i need to extract
[05:05] <Daskreech> you don't need su to do that
[05:05] <Newbiathon> i tried to move the zip file into root folder
[05:06] <Newbiathon> wouldn't let me
[05:06] <Daskreech> oh
[05:06] <Daskreech> well yeah you aren't root :)
[05:06] <Daskreech> sudo -i
[05:06] <Newbiathon> yeah i was asking how to unzip it using sudo
[05:06] <Daskreech> your prompt should change from $ to #
[05:06] <Newbiathon> what does -i do?
[05:07] <Daskreech> runs an inital login sequence
[05:07] <Daskreech> press alt+F2 and type man sudo
[05:07] <Daskreech> Will give you the help file for the command
[05:07] <Daskreech> Umm
[05:07] <Daskreech> man:/sudo
[05:09] <Daskreech> c2tarun: You there?
[05:09] <Newbiathon> ok so i sudo -i  tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt
[05:09] <Newbiathon> or sudo -i then do something else?
[05:09] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: no just type sudo -i
[05:09] <Daskreech> Your prompt should change from $ to #
[05:09] <Daskreech> that indicates that you are root
[05:09] <Newbiathon> ah ok now im root
[05:09] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: There you go.
[05:09] <Daskreech> !root
[05:10] <Newbiathon> yeah root@
[05:10] <Newbiathon> sudo +i to go back?
[05:11] <Newbiathon> now how do i extract
[05:11] <Newbiathon> the command they have doesn't work
[05:11] <Newbiathon> or should i move the zip file to the root folder?
[05:15] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: I have no idea what you are doing but I'm pretty sure that you are just running commands with out any idea what they are doing
[05:15] <Newbiathon> no im not
[05:15] <Newbiathon> i logged back into my user
[05:15] <Daskreech> What command doesn't work?
[05:15] <Newbiathon> the unzip command lol
[05:16] <Newbiathon> tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt
[05:16] <Newbiathon> that
[05:16] <Newbiathon> its in the tutorial
[05:16] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: what's the error?
[05:16] <Newbiathon> im suppose to run that from root but saying "no such directory"
[05:16] <Newbiathon> do i need to create an /opt folder first
[05:16] <Newbiathon> in the root folder?
[05:17] <Daskreech> type ls /opt
[05:17] <Daskreech> does it throw an error?
[05:17] <Newbiathon> yes
[05:17] <Newbiathon> tar (child): xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[05:17] <Daskreech> What does it say?
[05:18] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: what does ls xampp* say?
[05:18] <Newbiathon> so im guessing i need to make the /opt folder
[05:19] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: No it's saying there is no archive
[05:19] <Newbiathon> no such dir
[05:19] <Newbiathon> on root and user
[05:19] <Newbiathon> the zip is just sitting in my /home/user/downloads
[05:20] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: What does pwd say?
[05:20] <Newbiathon> specify
[05:21] <Newbiathon> it says to extract it to the /opt folder
[05:21] <Newbiathon> in the instructions
[05:22] <Newbiathon> here is what i need to know ok: how do i unzip my downloaded zip file into /opt
[05:22] <Newbiathon> that is all i need to know
[05:23] <Newbiathon> the zip file was downloaded to /home/user/downloads
[05:23] <c2tarun> Daskreech, yeah
[05:23] <Newbiathon> my ? is... do i need to make the /opt file? do i need to move the zip i downloaded to root?
[05:24] <c2tarun> Daskreech, ping
[05:25] <Daskreech> pong
[05:25] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: type pwd
[05:25] <Daskreech> what does that say?
[05:25] <c2tarun> Daskreech, you asked for me?
[05:25] <Newbiathon> in terminal? as root? as user?
[05:26] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: in terminal it doesn't matter who you are
[05:26] <Newbiathon> it says home/user
[05:26] <Daskreech> c2tarun: I asked if you were auto logging in?
[05:26] <Newbiathon> that is all
[05:26] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: type cd downloads
[05:26] <c2tarun> Daskreech, auto logging in kubuntu?
[05:26] <Daskreech> c2tarun: yes
[05:26] <Newbiathon> no such directory
[05:27] <c2tarun> Daskreech, nope, I am entering password and then logging in.
[05:27] <Newbiathon> should i sudo cd downloads?
[05:27] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: no
[05:27] <Newbiathon> k
[05:27] <Newbiathon> -bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory
[05:27] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: cd Downloads
[05:27] <Newbiathon> ah D
[05:28] <Newbiathon> ok then i type dir and see xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz
[05:29] <Daskreech> c2tarun: it was crashing before that point?
[05:29] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: run your tar command now
[05:29] <Newbiathon> ah ok
[05:30] <c2tarun> Daskreech, nope, just after I enter password and when panel appears after few seconds
[05:30] <Newbiathon> tar: lampp: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied
[05:30] <Daskreech> c2tarun: Ok yeah that was home directory problem then
[05:30] <Newbiathon> need to go into root
[05:30] <Newbiathon> gotcha
[05:30] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: ok now type sudo -i and try it
[05:31] <c2tarun> Daskreech, yup, I'll fix it :) meanwhile ubuntu supports my bluetooth headset :) so I am enjoying it at the moment.
[05:33] <Daskreech> c2tarun: nice :)
[05:34] <Newbiathon> hah, im a genius root@domain: cd /home/user/Downloads then the command yay
[05:34] <Newbiathon> thnx daskreech
[05:34] <Newbiathon> good to know the commands i guess
[05:35] <Newbiathon> so i can only run xampp from root?
[05:36] <Newbiathon> or now that it is installed, can i just go back to the old sudo start/stop option
[05:37] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: either
[05:37] <Newbiathon> ok cool, im starting to get it now
[05:38] <Newbiathon> sudo is kind of a "go around your elbow to get to ass" sort of thing eh?
[05:38] <Newbiathon> why not just make a root password and switch back and forth as needed
[05:38] <Newbiathon> seperate from user pass
[05:39] <Sentynel> having a whole separate user account is a pain
[05:39] <Sentynel> sudo individual commands or sudo su if you want to run a bunch of stuff as root
[05:40] <Sentynel> having a separate account requires hopping between accounts if you want to use GUI config tools and stuff and it all gets horribly complicated and people get tempted to just log in as root the whole time and that's BAD
[05:44] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: You can make a root password if you lik
[05:50] <Newbiathon> can someone explain ssl to me?
[05:50] <Newbiathon> the do's and don'ts
[05:50] <Newbiathon> You can also access your Apache server via SSL under https://localhost." should i do this step?
[06:10] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: what do you understand of it?
[06:10] <DarthFrog> SSL is Secure Sockets Layer.  In essence, encrypted web transmission.
[06:12] <DarthFrog> Newbiathon: The main thing to know about SSL and Apache is that certs are a racket.  They really mean next to nothing but cost a lot more than nothing.  Supposedly a cert ensures that you are who you say you are.  Instead, all it says is you found a certifying authority willing to take your money.
[06:14] <Unit193> Or you found
[06:14] <Unit193> http://wiki.cacert.org/
[07:32] <Newbiathon> hey, anyone know the exact location of where to put test page files in xampp
[07:32] <Newbiathon> htdocs
[07:32] <Newbiathon> ?
[07:34] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I tell Kubntu to copy a folder to my sdcard every hour (overwrite)?
[07:37] <baffone85> what can i change language on clibre? i have installed it and now there is arabo
[07:37] <Newbiathon> what is the terminal cmd to make a file?
[07:37] <Newbiathon> like the mkdir command
[07:41] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: A file or a directory?
[07:41] <Newbiathon> file
[07:41] <Newbiathon> php file
[07:46] <Daskreech> touch file.php
[07:46] <Newbiathon> ok thnx
[07:46] <Daskreech> baffone85: Libreoffice?
[07:46] <Daskreech> DeltaEpsilon: look up crontab
[07:51] <Newbiathon> nano file.php to edit the script in terminal right?
[07:51] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: That works
[07:52] <Newbiathon> it says to exit nano is ^exit
[07:52] <Newbiathon> i type it and doesn't exit
[07:52] <Newbiathon> sorry ^X
[07:53] <Daskreech> ^ means ctrl
[07:54] <Daskreech> M+ means Alt
[07:54] <Daskreech> so ^x is Ctrl+x
[07:54] <Daskreech> M+A
[07:54] <Daskreech> is Alt+A
[07:54] <Newbiathon> thnx
[07:54] <Newbiathon> im starting to come around
[07:55] <Daskreech> Far as I know no one has come up with a cute typeable symbol for the Windows Key
[07:56] <Newbiathon> ok so i have to put my php files in the htdocs folder inside the lampp folder to test them, however i don't want to stay logged in as root
[07:57] <Newbiathon> is there a way to work in my user account and save files to the htdoc folder on the root account
[07:57] <Newbiathon> to test?
[07:57] <Daskreech> If you are logged in as root now type logout
[07:57] <Newbiathon> yeah i got all that figured out
[07:57] <Daskreech> or press ^D on an empty prompt
[07:58] <Newbiathon> how to login logout etc..
[07:58] <Newbiathon> i just don't want to have to work in root
[07:58] <Newbiathon> but i like to test as i go along
[07:59] <Daskreech> Sure edit files as your self and save in your directory then switch to root and move it to root directory then switch back to your user
[07:59] <Newbiathon> so if im in /home/user/phpwork and want to save as my files to /opt/lampp/htdocs
[07:59] <Newbiathon> ok
[07:59] <Newbiathon> i just didn't know if there was a easier way
[08:01] <reisi> does anyone know if kmail2 (in RC phase) is being packaged for kubuntu 11.04 in some ppa or similar?
[08:01] <Newbiathon> how come when i type users i see two of my user account?
[08:03] <Daskreech> Newbiathon: do you have two terminals open?
[08:07] <faLUCE> hi. How can I sniff data incoming in /dev/video0 ?
[08:10] <Daskreech> cat ?
[08:11] <faLUCE> Daskreech: _sniff_ means that the resource is busy
[08:26] <reisi> faLUCE: could you explain what you mean by sniffing?
[08:36] <hyper_ch> hi there, is there a way to get TTS to work?
[08:37] <Newbiathon> ok if im logged in as root and wanted to give a user all access to one folder, how?
[08:39] <fayaz> Newbiathon: the owner of the folder usually has all access...
[08:39] <Newbiathon> yes, xampp has to be run in root
[08:40] <Newbiathon> i want to let my user account have all access to the htdocs folder
[08:40] <Newbiathon> so i can work in user basic account but still save files to htdoc in the root folder
[08:40] <Newbiathon> can i do that
[08:41] <fayaz> Newbiathon: either change the ownership of the folder
[08:41] <fayaz> or add the user to the group owning that folder
[08:41] <Newbiathon> that is what i want to do
[08:41] <Newbiathon> the 2nd option
[08:41] <Newbiathon> add a user
[08:41] <Newbiathon> just to that one folder
[08:42] <Newbiathon> so i can work in bluefish in my reg account but still save files to the htdocs folder in the root account
[08:42] <fayaz> check the properties for that folder...
[08:43] <Newbiathon> how in terminal
[08:43] <Newbiathon> or kate or what?
[08:43] <Newbiathon> walk me through it
[08:43] <fayaz> open some file browser and navigate to the folder
[08:45] <fayaz> right-click and select "Properties"
[08:45] <fayaz> Newbiathon: ?
[08:45] <Newbiathon> k
[08:46] <Newbiathon> now what?
[08:46] <fayaz> take the "Permissions" tab
[08:46] <fayaz> in the "Ownership" section
[08:46] <fayaz> make a note of which "Group" it is assigned to
[08:47] <Newbiathon> group: root
[08:47] <Newbiathon> xampp has to run from root
[08:47] <fayaz> what is xampp?
[08:48] <fayaz> never mind
[08:48] <fayaz> it's probably not safe to add a normal user to the 'root' group
[08:48] <Newbiathon> it's a lampp server
[08:48] <Newbiathon> oh ok
[08:49] <Newbiathon> well durn
[08:49] <fayaz> try to create a new group...
[08:49] <fayaz> 'xampp' maybe?
[08:49] <fayaz> add the desired user to that group
[08:49] <fayaz> and change the folder's ownership to that group
[08:49] <Newbiathon> yeah but that folder is what xampp goes to get your sites
[08:50] <fayaz> Newbiathon: so?
[08:50] <Newbiathon> why is it so unsafe to surf as nonroot?
[08:51] <fayaz> Newbiathon: you mean root?
[08:51] <Newbiathon> yeah
[08:51] <Newbiathon> my bad
[08:51] <fayaz> plain paranoia mostly :P
[08:52] <fayaz> Newbiathon: but its usually a good practice not to have too much authorization while normally using the system
[08:53] <fayaz> it reduces chances for accidental damage
[08:54] <fayaz> eg: deleting some critical system file...
[08:54] <Newbiathon> well it is a pain in the ass every time i want to test to have to log over to root and copy and paste my work
[08:54] <fayaz> Newbiathon: what about sudo?
[08:54] <fayaz> doesn't that work?
[08:54] <Newbiathon> how can i do that
[08:55] <Newbiathon> i think yeah but don't know the command
[08:55] <fayaz> simply "sudo <anycommand>"
[08:55] <fayaz> it'll ask for your user password once...
[08:56] <Newbiathon> so what would be the command to do what i want
[08:56] <Newbiathon> after sudo
[08:57] <Newbiathon> /opt/lampp/htdocs is the folder i want to save files to
[08:57] <Newbiathon> from bluefish in /home/user
[08:57] <fayaz> "sudo cp /path/to/myfile /path/to/htdocs"
[08:57] <Newbiathon> when i click file save as in the ui access denied
[08:58] <Newbiathon> oh ok
[08:58] <Newbiathon> still rather annoying
[08:58] <Newbiathon> how can i make a keyboard macro
[08:58] <Newbiathon> ill be using this quite frequently
[08:58] <fayaz> rather you grant access to the htdocs folder then...
[09:00] <Newbiathon> well if i knew where to set a macro  up it would be easy
[09:00] <Newbiathon> like an alias
[09:01] <fayaz> still you'd need to enter your password for that...
[09:01] <Newbiathon> where i type a button on my keyboard and it pastes sudo cp /path etc..
[09:01] <Newbiathon> i could make another macro for pass
[09:01] <Newbiathon> so i just hit 2 buttons
[09:01] <Newbiathon> and done
[09:01] <fayaz> Newbiathon: i don't think that's possible...
[09:02] <fayaz> passwords are supposed to be entered properly
[09:02] <Newbiathon> ok
[09:02] <Newbiathon> well i don't mind typing the pass
[09:02] <Newbiathon> but still want a macro for cs
[09:02] <Newbiathon> cp&
[09:02] <Newbiathon> cp*
[09:03] <fayaz> okay, you simply need to put your alias command in the ~/.bashrc file
[09:03] <Newbiathon> how do i get to it
[09:04] <fayaz> Newbiathon: get to what?
[09:04] <Newbiathon> ../.bash
[09:04] <fayaz> it's just a hidden file on your home folder
[09:05] <fayaz> home folder = ~
[09:05] <fayaz> simply open ".bashrc" from there
[09:05] <Newbiathon> what about sys settings/shortcuts
[09:05] <Newbiathon> shortcuts and gestures
[09:07] <fayaz> that would work too...
[09:10] <fayaz> Newbiathon: wait... then you'd probably need kdesudo
[10:31] <DeltaEpsilon> love kubuntu so far
[10:31] <DeltaEpsilon> :-)
[10:53] <pider55> Hi, my amarok do not work any more, i tried to reinstall, but it did not help, I try to play music (mp3) and amarok just shut down, run from terminal I get this: http://pastebin.com/21xz2cib When I run debug amarok I get this: http://pastebin.com/JryXj6At Can anyone help, please!
[10:54] <Peace-> say the true
[10:54] <Peace-> you have upgraded amarok with some  weird ppa
[10:54] <Peace-> remove ppa
[10:54] <Peace-> remove amaro
[10:54] <Peace-> reinstall amarok
[10:54] <Peace-> = fixed
[10:54] <pider55> I try that
[10:55] <Peace-> removed all the crap on $HOME/.kde/share/apps/amarok ?
[10:56] <Peace-> and  $HOME/.kde/share/config/amarok ?
[10:56] <pider55> I cannot find any ppa to remove
[10:56] <Peace-> pider55: before it worked?
[10:57] <DeltaEpsilon> Rekonq alone is using 35% of my cpu. :(
[10:57] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: cpu? ram?
[10:57] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: dual core?
[10:57] <Peace-> video bugs? flash ?
[10:58] <pider55> Yes, amarok used to work ok, I did move home to another disk, but I did not move my music folder
[10:59] <DeltaEpsilon> i3 350m 2.2ghz with ht.  with 6gb of ram
[10:59] <DeltaEpsilon> Peace-: I have one tab of youtube open
[10:59] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: ok that is a bug then
[10:59] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: rekonq for me is a joke
[10:59] <Peace-> i use firefox
[10:59] <DeltaEpsilon> Peace-: Rekonq integrates well in kde 4
[11:00] <DeltaEpsilon> firefox looks very ugly in kde
[11:00] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: really ? hahahah nope man
[11:00] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/01/plasma-desktopPl1862.jpg
[11:01] <DeltaEpsilon> Peace-: what firefox theme is that?
[11:01] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/01/plasma-desktopjU1862.jpg
[11:07] <ilea> hi all
[11:07] <pider55> Peace: did not help to remove files and reinstall
[11:07] <DeltaEpsilon> Peace-: can't find it
[11:08] <ilea> why after i boot kubuntu i configure the dsl and after i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to conect and it dosnt work with konsole
[11:08] <ilea> help at this please
[11:08] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=117962
[11:12] <ilea> why when i want to conect via dsl pppoe after i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to click on it and conect ?
[11:12] <ilea> and it dosnt work with the konsole
[11:12] <ilea> please help
[11:13] <moetunes> !pppoe
[11:13] <moetunes> best I can do
[11:13] <moetunes> :)
[11:15] <DeltaEpsilon> firefox sucks in kde4
[11:15] <DeltaEpsilon> Rekonq is uch better
[11:16] <DeltaEpsilon> I feel sleepy :(
[11:30] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: i have dual core with 1.5 gig of ram
[11:30] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: firefox rocks
[11:47] <c2tarun> I installed ubuntu yesterday due to problem in KDE :( it isn't even 24 hrs and I am already missing plamoids :(
[11:47] <c2tarun> plasmoids
[11:49] <c2tarun> anyone here installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu? Because I can feel that ubuntu is bit faster than kubuntu, it starts and shutdown quickly.
[11:53] <Tm_T> c2tarun: sure you can install it, although Ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop is pretty much Kubuntu+ubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <c2tarun> Tm_T, but what about speed? will ubuntu speed will be retained?
[12:06] <Tm_T> c2tarun: no
[12:08] <c2tarun> Tm_T, you mean it will get slower?
[12:10] <fayaz> c2tarun: Tm_T i think it's true...
[12:10] <fayaz> i have kubuntu in my laptop
[12:10] <Tm_T> c2tarun: ubuntu-desktop shouldn't affect the speed of kubuntu-desktop, and vice vers
[12:10] <fayaz> and ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop at office
[12:11] <c2tarun> Tm_T, thats good :) I'll install kubuntu-desktop today :)
[12:11] <fayaz> the office computer seems faster...
[12:17] <fayaz> any chances of configuration changes?
[12:23] <wintellect> Ok, weird question. I originally had Ubuntu on a box and then installed "kubuntu-desktop". Is there any way to remove the gnome desktop and such so I'm left with KDE and any gnome apps installed?
[12:25] <ArchangelSe7en> wintellect, depends on which version but generally "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:30] <Taggnostr> during the last distupgrade something went wrong and now kde doesn't start anymore. I tried a few things but didn't manage to fix the problem, so I was thinking about reinstalling everything from scratch. Is it possible to avoid formatting and reinstalling kubuntu "over" the one that is currently installed?
[12:36] <soee> Taggnostr, what do you mean by  " kde doesn't start anymore" any errors ?
[12:38] <Taggnostr> soee, when I enter my user/pass there's a loading window in the middle of the screen with 5 icons, and the last one is the KDE icon. When it reaches it, it just stops there
[12:39] <soee> Taggnostr, few days had something similiar but after all i was manage to run black screen when windows were opend but plasma was crashed
[12:39] <Taggnostr> soee, I installed fluxbox and it works fine. If you know where I can check for errors or something else I could try to do to fix the problem, please tell
[12:40] <soee> i fix this by removing kde configuation
[12:40] <Taggnostr> where do I find it?
[12:40] <soee> so i had to setup my desktop again but no need to reisntall
[12:40] <wintellect> thanks ArchangelSe7en
[12:41] <ArchangelSe7en> you're welcome
[12:41] <soee> Taggnostr, i think it was .kde/share/config in home dir
[12:42] <soee> ah indeed it was config folder as i have old backaup :)
[12:42] <Taggnostr> soee, there are several files there, which one should I pick? (and should I delete it?)
[12:42] <soee> Taggnostr, i removed whole folder (before backup it)
[12:42] <soee> it willbe create from scratch
[12:43] <Taggnostr> soee, I also have ~/.kde4
[12:44] <soee> Taggnostr, i do not, what kde version are you using ?
[12:45] <Taggnostr> kde 4.6.2
[12:45] <soee> anyway try to comment both dirs - add __ at the name begining
[12:45] <Taggnostr> ok
[12:45] <soee> and restart pc and see if they both are recreated
[12:45] <soee> im on 4.6.3
[12:45] <soee> 2 months ago fresh Kubuntu 11.04 installed
[12:46] <Taggnostr> I distupgraded this machine a couple of times already
[12:57] <Taggnostr> soee, that didn't seem to fix the problem
[12:57] <ert65> hi to all, i have a problem :S i use a vlc to play a mkv movies and when movies starts everything is perfect till one moment when the films stops and i must restart my computer. My video card is ati radeon hd mobility 4500
[12:58] <aperson> ert65☛ I have that issue with vlc too, it seems to sometimes eat up all my ram
[12:58] <aperson> and then it starts eating up swap
[12:59] <ert65> i have 3 gb ram and 3 gb swap
[12:59] <ert65> is it that posiblle
[12:59] <aperson> and I have 4gb of ram and 6gb of swap
[12:59] <ert65> is it that possible
[12:59] <ert65> :X
[12:59] <ert65> and solution is....?
[13:01] <aperson> I just kill vlc
[13:02] <ert65> but i can't do anything when that happens
[13:02] <ert65> how can i kill vlc
[13:02] <Ddpbf> pgrep vlc
[13:02] <aperson> I usually hop into a tty and pkill -9 vlc
[13:02] <Ddpbf> kill -9 <number you got>
[13:03] <aperson> or just use pkill ;)
[13:03] <ert65> is there some way to prevent this issue
[13:03] <ert65> ?
[13:03] <aperson> if I knew I would've told you
[13:04] <ert65> :S
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:14] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hye
[13:14] <Peace-> apachelogger:
[13:14] <Peace-> apachelogger: do you know about javascript stuff?
[13:15] <Peace-> something ?
[13:17] <Taggnostr> soee, found a solution: last post on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1462745.html
[13:43] <ert65> maybe the question is very stupid but i'm a newbie and want to ask how can i open a shared windows xp directory on my kubuntu the both machines are in network trough a ruoter
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ert65, open dolphin ,under places choose network , choose  add network folder , microsoft network drive , name of the xp pc then it's IP address , then the shared folder that you have already shared on the windows pc
[14:12] <BluesKaj> no patience , as usual the instant gratification syndrome raises it's ugly head
[14:59] <Kostanakis> Is here anybody Russian?
[15:00] <Pici> !ru
[15:00] <Kostanakis> thanks
[16:00] <ahox> Hi, my desktop computer won't go into suspend when using the kmenu/krunner, however pm-suspend works. Any ideas how to use it directly from kde?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ahox, systemsettings/power management
[16:09] <ahox> BluesKaj: I don't really see there anything that would let me enable sleep mode
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ahox, suspend session ?
[16:11] <ahox> BluesKaj: is checked with After 1 Min sleep. But my problem is that the sleep does not work from within kde
[16:12] <ahox> even when using it from the kmenu or krunner
[16:13] <BluesKaj> ahox, well, sorry I dunno how else to help... I don't bother with sleep modes on our laptop or pcs
[16:16] <ahox> ah, I just found out that the /etc/acpi/sleep.sh is runnable as normal user, so I will use that... better than nothing I guess
[16:19] <ahox> or not...
[16:35] <amichair> is there an ntfs defragmenter for linux?
[16:36] <EldonG> Does anybody here play Diablo 2 on Kubuntu?
[16:43] <razorsharp> amichair, i don't think so. even if there are one, i would not recommend it.
[16:44] <amichair> razorsharp: why not?
[16:44] <mr-rich> How can I tell if my DVD drive can burn double layer disks?
[16:46] <mr-rich> amgarching: because reading/writing NTFS in linux is guessing game ... they got it *mostly* right ...
[16:46] <razorsharp> razorsharp, ntfs is a propertiary format, the only way we know about the structure is by reverse engineering + trial & error. it's not safe.
[16:47] <amichair> razorsharp: well the ntfs drivers are stable as any for read/write for a few years now... why would a defragger be much different?
[16:49] <mr-rich> amichair: there could be a few hidden suprises that M$ put in there that could potentially screw up the whole fs ... no recovery ...
[16:50] <razorsharp> amichair, i just don't trust it that much. just my opinion. that and i lost a whole 1 TB drive in 2009 just after writing to it.
[16:50] <amichair> mr-rich: that's possible, but would probably be found in starndard testing during development or shortly thereafter. In any case, if there is no such defragger, the discussion is moot :-)
[16:52] <marxjohnson> I've just installed the UbuntuBeta Mono font, but it doesn't appear on the list of fixed width fonts in the System Settings font selector. Is that likely to be a problem with  KDE, or the packaging of the font?
[16:54] <amichair> marxjohnson: maybe you need to update the font cache?
[16:55] <marxjohnson> amichair: it  appears on the full list of fonts. I've tried logging out and in again to no avail, and I can reproduce the problem on another machine
[16:57] <oda> TES
[16:58] <amichair> marxjohnson: in that case, I don't know where the problem might lie... maybe someone else can help
[16:58] <marxjohnson> amichair: Ok ty anyway. I'll file a bug and see if I get any pointers :-)
[17:15] <LABcrab> !ubotu
[17:55] <alex___> hi everyone.
[17:55] <COSENTRY\jleighn> hi
[17:55] <COSENTRY\jleighn> .
[17:57] <lindsaymobil22> Hey guys
[17:58] <lindsaymobil22> I am very impressed with Kubuntu 11.04!
[17:58] <lindsaymobil22> However, my ALPS touchpad, even though its recognised, i have no vertical touchpad scrolling working
[17:58] <lindsaymobil22> Any help?
[18:03] <alex___> lindsaymobil22 try to click on vertical scrolling at right edge in preferense->input devises->touchpad->scrolling
[18:03] <lindsaymobil22> alex___: I have....
[18:04] <alex___> driver updated?
[18:04] <lindsaymobil22> alex___: No new one available
[18:04] <alex___> hm...
[18:04] <lindsaymobil22> alex___: This is a regression, i had some sort of scrolling working in 10.10
[18:05] <lindsaymobil22> And was easy to fix
[18:05] <alex___> two fingers scroling don`t works too?
[18:05] <lindsaymobil22> alex___: Nope
[18:06] <lindsaymobil22> On the mailing list people with similar models of my laptop have this issue
[18:06] <alex___> i think it will be fiksed soon
[18:07] <lindsaymobil22> alex___: I hope so...Sadly, i cant wait a while
[18:08] <alex___> ALPS touchpad isn't capatible with Elantech driver i gues...
[18:12] <nvidia> hello i have a problem with my ubuntu, can i ask here or i must join on ubuntu channel ?
[18:13] <DarthFrog> !ask
[18:13] <alex___> O_o who's here?
[18:13] <DarthFrog> If it's an Ubuntu problem that's not easily fixed, you'll probably be sent to #Ubuntu, though.
[18:14] <nvidia> ok
[18:14] <nvidia> i tried to install "Kopete" and i get the next error "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it now" and i chosse Repair.. but after some min i get the failed msg :( how can i remove it.. or how can i remove manual the kopete? pls someone help me :(
[18:14] <DarthFrog> Kopete is a KDE program and thus this is the suitable place to ask.
[18:15] <alex___> why install kopete on ubuntu? don't like empathy?
[18:15] <DarthFrog> Sorry, I'm of no help to you with that.
[18:16] <nvidia> empathy i don`t like verry much
[18:16] <alex___> nvidia: instal the kde in ubuntu firs, then you wila dble to install kopete.
[18:17] <alex___> firtst* (sorry for my english)
[18:17] <lindsaymobil22> nvidia: This is an odd one, since all the dependencies are met when installing kopete
[18:17] <BluesKaj> alex___, that's not necessarry
[18:17] <nvidia> alex  i`m begginer on ubunut.. i don`t know very much work in :(
[18:18] <alex___> nvidia a'm too =)
[18:18] <nvidia> so how can i remove that error? and use again ubuntu software center?
[18:19] <lindsaymobil22> nvidia: Install aptitude via sudo apt-get install aptitude
[18:19] <DarthFrog> nvidia: Can you open a CLI session?  if so, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[18:20] <amichair> nvidia: try running "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:20] <DarthFrog> Yeah, try that first! :-)
[18:20] <nvidia> where can i paste the log ?
[18:20] <nvidia> here ?
[18:20] <DarthFrog> No.
[18:20] <DarthFrog> !pastebin
[18:20] <nvidia> ok
[18:21] <nvidia> so.. the first command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/615993/
[18:21] <DarthFrog> nvidia:  do try amichair's suggestion of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[18:23] <lindsaymobil22> I fixed my touchpad!
[18:23] <lindsaymobil22> Bye guys
[18:25] <alex___> lindsaymobil22 how?
[18:27] <nvidia> DareDevil : look up here
[18:27] <nvidia> DareDevil
[18:27] <nvidia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615996/
[18:28] <mfraz74> Does anyone know whether burning to blu-ray is possible with Kubuntu? I've seen that k3b supports it, but not using UDF 2.5.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> nvidia, open a terminal , sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install , then run sudo apt-get install kopete
[18:29] <amichair> nvidia: you can delete the broken .deb files from the error message (they are just files in a cache), then run 'sudo apt-get update'  and again 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[18:29] <nvidia> where can i found that files to delete?
[18:29] <alex___> some kind of black magic... -_-
[18:30] <amichair> nvidia: the ones in the error log you pasted
[18:30] <DarthFrog> nvidia: "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean"
[18:30] <DarthFrog> All on one line.
[18:31] <nvidia> done all 3 lines
[18:31] <DarthFrog> Is it working now?
[18:31] <nvidia> wait
[18:31] <amichair> nvidia: does "apt-get install -f" complete without error?
[18:31] <amichair> nvidia: with sudo first, that is
[18:32] <nvidia> i have open the ubuntu software center and the error is still there :((
[18:32] <amichair> DarthFrog: isn't clean a superset of autoclean?
[18:32] <DarthFrog> amichair: Don't know. :-)
[18:32] <DarthFrog> Don't think so, though.
[18:33] <amichair> DarthFrog: I thought autoclean removes only old versions of packages from the cache, and cleans just removes the whole cache. I may be wrong.
[18:33] <nvidia> " Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it now?"
[18:33] <DarthFrog> Say yes and pastebin the output.
[18:33] <nvidia> ok, now i clicked on "repair"
[18:34] <nvidia> in the Progress bar i see : Repairing Broken deps (with status downloading)
[18:34] <nvidia> Applying changes now
[18:39] <nvidia> thnks verry much guys :) i`m here  on this problem about 3 4 hours :( and with your help i resolve this problem
[18:39] <nvidia> thnkx a lot
[18:39] <SMOSA> hola
[18:40] <amichair> nvidia: cheers :-)
[18:40] <nvidia> u`re the best ;)
[18:41] <DarthFrog> nvidia:  So does Kopete install properly now?
[18:41] <nvidia> f**k kopete :))) i`ll use empathy :))
[18:41] <amichair> I just use pidgin :-)
[18:41] <DarthFrog> nvidia:  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kopete".
[18:42] <DarthFrog> nvidia: The best advice we can give you is:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  :-)
[18:42] <nvidia> so DarthFrog  when i browse for kopete in ubuntu soft. i see it but installed
[18:42] <amichair> nvidia: by the way, the problem was not with kopete, it was with your package manager's cache (the backend used in both ubuntu and kubuntu)
[18:42] <nvidia> aaa..
[18:42] <DarthFrog> Exactly.  Under the hood, there's little difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.  And Xubuntu, for that matter.
[18:43] <Kostanakis> как все весело-то)) в автозагрузке нет, а загружается...не человек, не птица, летит и материцца...
[18:43] <nvidia> but an alternative to install appz without ubuntu soft. what is?
[18:43] <DarthFrog> !ru | Kostanakis
[18:43] <amichair> if "sudo apt-get install -f" completes with no error, then kopete installation should be successful, and you can just try running it
[18:43] <nvidia> i`m forget about that cmd :))
[18:43] <Ddpbf> how tu build .deb package from an kde app?
[18:43] <nvidia> Reading state information... Done
[18:43] <nvidia> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:44] <alex___> Kostanakis: это ты к чему?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> !debuild
[18:44] <amichair> nvidia: ok, sounds like all is well. You can try running kopete
[18:44] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: i know how to make .deb packages
[18:44] <Kostanakis> alex, извини, иркой ошибся
[18:45] <Ddpbf> i am asking wath to put in rules
[18:45] <nvidia> i mean how install appz without use ubuntu software center..
[18:45] <Ddpbf> debian/rules
[18:45] <amichair> nvidia: apt-get or aptitude from command line, synaptic for gnome GUI, kpackagekit for kde GUI... they all use the same backend and repositories
[18:46] <nvidia> ok, for now i`ll never use ubuntu soft :))
[18:46] <kilani> Why not?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Ddpbf, then why did you ask ?
[18:48] <Ddpbf> BluesKaj: because i don't know wath to put in debian/rules
[18:48] <Ddpbf> *what
[18:49] <BluesKaj> !debhelper
[18:49] <Ddpbf> yes it is inheresting part
[18:49] <EugenMayer> amichair: apt-get and aptitude not always match
[18:50] <nvidia> now the ubuntu center is work, i want asking another thing.. i have installed ubuntu yesterday night, and i`m verry beginner on linux.. :) my question is.. how can i know if i have all drivers of my computer installed ? `cuz the sound and wirelles are working without no drivers installed by me.. is some option to see the drivers missing and installed? something like in windows with Device Manager?
[18:50] <Ddpbf> where to find cmake in debhelper rules
[18:50] <EugenMayer> nvidia: that is linux. In most cases you dont need to ever install drivers
[18:50] <amichair> nvidia: if it's working, the right drivers are installed :-)
[18:51] <nvidia> ah.. nice.. verry nice ubuntu :) but the video driver?
[18:51] <nvidia> installed it too ?
[18:51] <EugenMayer> depends on what you want
[18:51] <EugenMayer> the OS driver is installed, the commercial one is not. Until you dont need to render scenes or play games, you most prob. be fine with the OS ones
[18:52] <amichair> nvidia: there is a little utility app for installing proprietary (non open-source) drives, such as nvidia's. In kubuntu it's "Additional Drivers" in the K menu, not sure what it's called in Ubuntu.
[18:52] <nvidia> ok, but to play a movie ? can i see it with this?
[18:52] <kilani> Why Kubuntu 10 64bit has many problems?WLAN  problem-Bluetooth pb-VM box problem -Audio problem?
[18:52] <trampel> nvidia: one's education in that area could start with studying the output of "lsmod"
[18:52] <kilani> Please help
[18:52] <EugenMayer> nvidia: should be no issues
[18:53] <nvidia> ok thnx very much guys ;) u`re the best
[18:53] <EugenMayer> trampel: he is a beginner...why carry him to the console..
[18:53] <trampel> the console is where one should begin.  (and perhaps end)
[18:53] <nvidia> the best help what i get in 5 years on internet (about windows)
[18:53] <nvidia> i like you :D
[18:54] <EugenMayer> trampel: ah you are a nerd. Be it for yourself.
[18:54] <EugenMayer> trampel: dont get me wrong, iam also a nerd.
[18:54] <trampel> nerds belong here.
[18:54] <EugenMayer> no not only nerds do :)
[18:54] <amichair> nvidia: for Ubuntu-specific questions, try asking in the #ubuntu channel. This channel is for support with Kubuntu specifically (you can try it out!). Good luck :-)
[18:54] <ovidius> hi all. is there a way to test kdepim 4.6 rc2 on my natty system by a ppa?
[18:54] <EugenMayer> ovidius: yes
[18:54] <EugenMayer> use the experimental ppas
[18:54] <nvidia> thnx, have a nice chat :) bye bye
[18:54] <EugenMayer> by the way, it works great
[18:55] <EugenMayer> dav-support for akonadi and kmail 2 is just perfect
[18:55] <EugenMayer> its more stable then 2.6.2/2.6.3 is actually
[19:00] <BluesKaj> kmail ?, wow kmail totally screwed up when I tried to use it after kde4 , so i gave up and went back to t-bird, but then I decided on gmail and that was then end of pc mail clients for me
[19:01] <DarthFrog> I use Thunderbird for Gmail via IMAP.
[19:02] <ovidius> i find kmail great per se. unfortunately, i need caldav support for work, but it is only in kdepim 4.6 :-( so i have to use kmail 2 as well
[19:02] <EugenMayer> ovidius: caldav is in 2.6.3 already
[19:02] <EugenMayer> use "remote folders"
[19:02] <EugenMayer> its working fine. Just carddav ist broken
[19:03] <ovidius> ah, ok. i will have a look right now ;-)
[19:03] <EugenMayer> (for 2.6.3 you would need to use dav2fs for caldav support + local folders
[19:03] <EugenMayer> dont use kcaldav - its broken
[19:03] <EugenMayer> at least compiled against 2.6.3. you best bet by far is the exp. ppas with the rc2 pims stuff
[19:03] <ovidius> @eugenmayer i figured out that kcaldav is broken by trying it...
[19:04] <EugenMayer> those work pretty good
[19:04] <EugenMayer> ovidius: same did i
[19:04] <EugenMayer> i just KDE back in 3.0 times and switched from unity
[19:04] <EugenMayer> its really odd to see KDE still crashes that often.
[19:05] <EugenMayer> compared to gnome, the stability is just crap definition
[19:05] <EugenMayer> but the way you can configure KDE and the new expose with search is just > all
[19:05] <ovidius> yeah, kcaldav seems to be a major stability killer
[19:06] <EugenMayer> pim is also great, but i still miss  a sipphone wit kaddress support ( twinkle is crap, qutecom does not hve the support and sflphone does not support proxies :/ )
[19:06] <EugenMayer> no its not caldav, its KDE :)
[19:06] <EugenMayer> its KDE since 3.5
[19:07] <EugenMayer> great swt abstraction, nice interfaces - crap quality. Thats KDE is 3 words :)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> probs with kmail is not enough to make me switch to ubuntu /gnome /unity or whatever ubuntu is serving up nowadays :)
[19:11] <ovidius> so, kdepim 4.6 is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental, yes?
[19:12] <EugenMayer> ovidius: yes
[19:12] <EugenMayer> BluesKaj: well i would love to use Fedora + gnome3 + some tweaks, but well not working 2 well on my hw
[19:13] <EugenMayer> At least its stable. The evolution-data (pim) integration is "ok", at least the level of rc2 of KDE.
[19:13] <EugenMayer> but evolution is so ***** crap.
[19:14] <H3tw3rkt> hello
[19:14] <H3tw3rkt> i was wondering it there a fix for 11.04 and using the nvidia 270 drivver yet ?
[19:15]  * H3tw3rkt or are there only ati people in here?
[19:15] <EugenMayer> me
[19:15] <EugenMayer> and nvidia should be much easiert then ATI :) Ati is pain in the ass... and i have even a hybrid with intel
[19:16] <H3tw3rkt> after my install and driver update my desktop screen went .. lets make things fuzzy
[19:16] <H3tw3rkt> snowy even
[19:21] <ovidius> had a laptop with nvidia/intel gfx card combo, before this one. wasn't fun with the nvidia bug and missing intel 3d support :-(
[19:21] <ovidius> have an ati card now :-)
[19:22] <H3tw3rkt> from what i pick up at google the problem is still there right ? i had to force myself in a gnome install :P
[19:28] <ovidius> i don't now. it was there 2 weeks ago
[19:30] <ovidius> ok, kubuntu experimental ppa and kdepim 4.6 -> caldav support in quasi no time. even kmail update, seems to have worked
[19:33] <ovidius> i hope it does not get me that high cpu load that the beta versions had ...
[19:56] <cousin_mario> hello
[19:56] <Linkmaster> hey
[19:57] <cousin_mario> know of a PPA with beta nvidia drivers?
[19:59] <genii-around> The xorg-edgers
[20:09] <Zolorado> hi
[20:09] <Zolorado> I need some help with Kubuntu
[20:09] <Zolorado> somebody can help me?
[20:11] <cousin_mario> genii-around: thanks, but seems to me it only offers OSS drivers
[20:12] <cousin_mario> I mean, is there package for nvidia 275.09?
[20:12] <ryrych> hi, how can I disable global menu for Firefox and restore Firefox’s orange menu?
[20:13] <ovidius> no globalmenu in firefox only?
[20:13] <ovidius> or no globalmenu at all for all apps?
[20:14] <ryrych> ovidius: no global menu in fx
[20:14] <ovidius> in the first case: remove firefox-globalmenu package
[20:15] <ryrych> ok, let me try
[20:15] <Zolorado> I just installed the Kubuntu 11.04 but I can not install packages, it says, that a package manager is already running... but I did not start anything
[20:15] <Zolorado> anibody idees?
[20:16] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: perhaps it's just the auto update running
[20:16] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: how long has this been going on?
[20:17] <ryrych> ovidius: it works! thanks :)
[20:17] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: after installation I just started the update, that could not completed, couse some error, then I closed update, and can not install any package
[20:18] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: I did not install any programs
[20:20] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: what is the process name of the autoupgrade?
[20:20] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: not sure on kde, I've switched only recently
[20:21] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: possibly packagekitd
[20:21] <ct529> hi! I have a 20GB file and I am trying to copy it to an external USB storage disk
[20:21] <ct529> it keeps failing with Error splicing file: File too large
[20:21] <ct529> anyone who can help?
[20:21] <cousin_mario> ct529: is it FAT?
[20:22] <cousin_mario> the external drive, I mean
[20:22] <ct529> cousin_mario: yes (I thought you mean whether I am fat :) ...)
[20:23] <cousin_mario> ct529: FAT can't handle files larger than 4GB
[20:23] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: I killed all of the progresses "pack*", but still doesn't works
[20:23] <cousin_mario> so, either you split it somehow or change FS
[20:23] <cousin_mario> ct529: ^
[20:23] <ct529> cousin_mario: ouch .... i have not used fat for more than 10y .... so what can I do? it is the only external backup device I have .... grrrrr!
[20:24] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: ps ax and paste the result on pastebin
[20:24] <ct529> cousin_mario: can't change, it is the office one .... I cna decide what to put on my desktop / laptop (so you can imagine what I have installed :D) but not on external storage devices
[20:24] <cousin_mario> ct529: 4GB was a sane limit 10 years ago:)
[20:24] <cousin_mario> ct529: then you'll have to split the file
[20:24] <cousin_mario> possibly make a multivolume archive
[20:25] <ct529> cousin_mario: Is there a command? I never had to do it before ....
[20:25] <ct529> cousin_mario: that is is there a command under linux ....
[20:25] <cousin_mario> ct529: I had to do it for my backup, but can't remember how I did it
[20:25] <cousin_mario> ct529: your best bet is to use zip or something like that, though
[20:27] <Zolorado> cousin_mario:  ax? what that mean? sorry, I'm new in linux
[20:27] <gio_gt> ct529: I just entered now, I missed the first part of your question, what do you want to do?
[20:28] <ct529> cousin_mario: trying to back up a 20Gb file on a USB FAT external storage :(
[20:29] <cousin_mario> ct529: yes, I suggest you create a multi-volume archive
[20:29] <cousin_mario> maybe without compression
[20:29] <gio_gt> ct529: I use 7z for that, it works fine
[20:34] <ct529> cousin_mario: how do I create it? is there a tool?
[20:35] <ct529> gio_gt: 7z? is it a linux compressor?
[20:35] <cousin_mario> ct529:I remember using file-roller on gnome, but you can indeed use 7z, zip, rar from command line
[20:38] <ct529> cousin_mario: ok, I will try thanks a lot!
[20:39] <cousin_mario> ct529: I also recommend you don't create the archive directly on the external drive or it will take forever
[20:39] <cousin_mario> create locally then copy
[20:40] <ct529> cousin_mario: yep!
[20:41] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: http://pastebin.com/xQA6kTga
[20:45] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: and you say that "sudo apt-get update" fails?
[20:47] <Zolorado> cousin_mario:  fails. it asks me to run „sudo dpkg --configure -a”
[20:48] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: well, what happens when you do that?
[20:48] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: did you upgrade to natty ?
[20:49] <cablop> i am new to this kubuntu, i ised kde, but it seems it was a millenium ago
[20:49] <cablop> i was editing the panels and then it is not working, all what i have is the panels visible, all is freezed and something is blinking in the right side of the new panel
[20:51] <Zolorado> cousin_mario:  thoose natty upgrades were "ignored"
[20:51] <cablop> where can i rempove thatpanel or how to make things work again?
[20:52] <Combatjuan> Howdy.  How do I make my pager plasmoid show previews of the desktops?
[20:52] <Zolorado> cousin_mario: now it makes something... setting up apps
[20:55] <Zolorado> cousin_mario:  now it seem working... started to download the package I wanted to install
[20:55] <Combatjuan> Maybe I need to have desktop effects enabled to have live previews.
[20:56] <cousin_mario> Zolorado: good
[20:56] <cousin_mario> gn
[21:01] <Firefishe> I have an Asus G50V running Ubuntu Lucid.  There is a physical slide-switch on the outside of the laptop for the wireless card.  When I boot into Lucid, with the switch off, I don't have wireless on the desktop (KDE 4.5.x - using nm-applet).  I usually have to reboot with the switch on, then all works fine, and can access networks from nm-applet's menu.
[21:01] <Firefishe> What I want to know is how I can, if I boot with the switch off, re-initialize the wireless without rebooting?
[21:02] <Firefishe> My module output looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616085/
[21:02] <Firefishe> It's an Intel Wi-Fi Link 5100.
[21:05] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[21:06] <LINKSWORD2> #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <xboxowns> Hey guys
[21:08] <alfonso> hola
[21:08] <xboxowns> I accidentally closed the desktop and task bar below
[21:08] <xboxowns> how do I return it back
[21:08] <xboxowns> I pressed ctrl-alt-esc by mistake
[21:08] <xboxowns> Well it is not mistake more thinking I will receive a task manager
[21:08] <LINKSWORD2> xboxows, what version are you running?
[21:08] <xboxowns> kubuntu 11.04+
[21:08] <LINKSWORD2> OK, then it's simple.
[21:08] <xboxowns> ?
[21:09] <testinator> hi@all
[21:09] <xboxowns> hi@all???
[21:09] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[21:09] <xboxowns> is that the solutiopn?
[21:09] <LINKSWORD2> Nope.
[21:09] <xboxowns> ooh
[21:09] <testinator> uups
[21:09] <LINKSWORD2> xboxowns: You know what the KDE panels icon looks like, correct?
[21:10] <xboxowns> erm....
[21:10] <xboxowns> no
[21:10] <xboxowns> ooh
[21:10] <xboxowns> wait the one on the top right corner?
[21:10] <LINKSWORD2> Nevermind. I made a mistake there.
[21:10] <LINKSWORD2> Yes, that will work.
[21:10] <xboxowns> but that doesn't show
[21:10] <xboxowns> everything is gone
[21:10] <xboxowns> except this window here
[21:10] <xboxowns> and firefox
[21:10] <LINKSWORD2> OK, then. Right-click your desktop and click Add Panel.
[21:11] <LINKSWORD2> It will have 2 options: Empty Panel or Default Panel.
[21:11] <xboxowns> it doesn't work. cause I don't have desktop. Just black background that is it.
[21:11] <xboxowns> the key combination kinda closed everything
[21:11] <xboxowns> including desktop and taskbar
[21:12] <LINKSWORD2> Well, see if right-clicking on the black background will do anything.
[21:12] <xboxowns> nothing
[21:12] <xboxowns> except...erm..sour finger heh
[21:12] <LINKSWORD2> :/ Huh?
[21:12] <xboxowns> yeah....nothing.
[21:12] <xboxowns> I kinda could take snapshot
[21:13] <xboxowns> but even if I saved it...there is no way to get the file
[21:13] <xboxowns> wait
[21:13] <xboxowns> maybe there is hold on
[21:13] <LINKSWORD2> Can you open the terminal?
[21:13] <xboxowns> how do you open terminal with key combination?
[21:13] <xboxowns> like ctrl-?
[21:13] <LINKSWORD2> Ctrl-Alt-T
[21:14] <xboxowns> grrrrrrrrrrr
[21:14] <xboxowns> nothing ><
[21:14] <LINKSWORD2> KILL THE WINDOWS USER!!!!
[21:14] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[21:14] <LINKSWORD2> JK
[21:14] <FloodBotK1> LINKSWORD2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <xboxowns> sure :d
[21:14] <testinator> is there a .de kubuntu support chanel? (it's
[21:14] <xboxowns> hehe....this chat channel...is very...erm.....restrictive.
[21:14] <LINKSWORD2> ... Shove off, Floodbot.
[21:15] <LINKSWORD2> xboxowns: May I open a one-to-one chat with you?
[21:15] <xboxowns> of course
[21:15] <testinator> it sux trying to describe thins i dont understand in a foreign language
[21:17] <vrubium> #join ubuntu
[21:20] <jordan__> i have a odd problem i installed wine through my terimal now kpackage wont install anything
[21:20] <jordan__> im using kubuntu 11.04
[21:21] <jordan__> sudo apt-get install wine
[21:21] <jordan__> then kpack told me to do sudo  dpkg --configure -a
[21:21] <jordan__> i did and its not working now
[21:23] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, damnit.
[21:24] <testinator> why is kubuntu copying a file (audio/video) from a network source (usb in my router) to /var/tmp/something instead of playing the file?
[21:26] <LINKSWORD2> testinator, that is a temporary file directory.
[21:26] <LINKSWORD2> I believe you can find your file in that directory by opening the folders indicated by the /var/tmp/something path.
[21:26] <s_p_or_t_o> howdy, i'm trying to stream video via a samba shared folder and the color is off (green) anyone have any ideas?
[21:27] <s_p_or_t_o> (kubuntu 11.04 on both machines)
[21:28] <testinator> your right ... but it doesnt make sense to me ... i want to open the file with vlc for example ... not copying
[21:29] <LINKSWORD2> I'm sorry about that. I don't use VLC, so I'm not able to help you with it.
[21:30] <testinator> LINKSWORD2: dragon player is the same
[21:30] <LINKSWORD2> I did a minimal install for KDE on my system. Dragon Player is not present.
[21:31] <LINKSWORD2> Anyway. I'm sorry that I need to leave right now.
[21:34] <jordan__> ok i went to remover wine it said it was not installed when it is installed it seems the ttf-mscorefonts-installer seems to be the problem
[21:35] <jordan__> it wont let me go ant further
[21:35] <jordan__> weird
[21:35] <jordan__> cant hit the ok
[21:37] <jordan__> omg im a noob
[21:37] <jordan__> all i had to do is hit tab
[21:38] <jordan__> see if this fixes it
[21:38] <testinator> gz
[21:39] <jordan__> HAHAH its fixed now
[21:40] <jordan__> for some reason apt didnt install mic's ttfs?
[21:40] <jordan__> hmm
[21:40] <jordan__> well its working now
[21:42] <TUXFAST> hi
[21:43] <testinator> hi
[21:43] <TUXFAST> testinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[21:43] <TUXFAST> ciao
[21:44] <TUXFAST> ma ke kanale è questo????çççòòòòòò@@@@@@@@ò
[21:44] <testinator> why is kubuntu copying a file (audio/video) from a network source (usb in my router) to /var/tmp/something before it plays the the file?
[21:44] <rww> !it
[21:44] <TUXFAST> grazier
[21:46] <jordan__> testinator, dont know
[21:47] <testinator> doesnt make sense with a 60 mb > file
[21:47] <jordan__> it should be staying in you vm
[21:47] <jordan__> no going to your hd
[21:47] <testinator> right
[21:47] <jordan__> i dont know
[21:48] <testinator> some seconds buffering ok, but not the whole ting copying
[21:49] <jordan__> i wish i could answer your question
[21:49] <jordan__> i just dont know anything about it
[21:49] <testinator> ;-) me2
[21:50] <testinator> dont even know where to start my journey to solution
[22:11] <EldonG> Ok...I need to copy into a folder...under wine...where would I find it?
[22:12] <EldonG> ...and why can't wine browse the C: drive?  :p
[22:16] <giantpune> hey boys.  im using kubuntu 11.04on my laptop.  i dont see a way to disable the touchpad while typing.  does anybody know if there is a setting hidden somewhere for this?
[22:19] <chachan> giantpune, that's annoying
[22:20] <giantpune> indeed.  somehow my hands are too small for most things, but just large enough to touch the touchpad while i type
[22:23] <chachan> giantpune, xinput
[22:23] <george__> giantpune: is your touchpad sinaptics?
[22:24] <giantpune> i assume it is george__.  how would i know for sure?
[22:24] <chachan> giantpune, xinput list
[22:24] <chachan> :)
[22:25] <george__> giantpune: if so, search for synaptiks and just tick the optiion that disables touchpad if keyboard activity is detected. You can also choose the delay time to get it working again after stop using the keyboard
[22:25] <giantpune> SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad                id=10   [slave  pointer  (2)]
[22:25] <ovidius> giantpune, try synaptiks.
[22:26] <giantpune> woot.  thats works :D
[22:27] <giantpune> thanks
[22:27] <chachan> giantpune, what did you do?
[22:28] <giantpune> type synaptiks in a terminal and a progam started and put a little icon in the taskbar.  then i clicked on that and it gives some pretty self explanitory and useful optins
[22:28] <chachan> cool
[22:29] <ovidius> giantpune, it should run as daemon in your system area or whatever the official name for that area is ;)
[22:31] <chachan> I have a ThinkPad and it didn't detect the embedded mouse, but it does detect the touchpad and my external mouse
[22:31] <chachan> embedded mouse <- The red stuff in the middle of the keyboard :p
[22:32] <giantpune> it picks up the embedded mouse on my HP perfectly
[22:32] <chachan> and xinput does
[22:32] <chachan> does your HP has a embedded mouse like thinkpads? (a little weird button)
[22:33] <giantpune> i think it may be  PS/2 Generic Mouse                        id=12   [slave  pointer  (2) "
[22:33] <fester77> any swedish helpers in here?
[22:33] <giantpune> its a little blue circle in the middle of my keyboard
[22:35] <fester77> im asking for swedes ... because i got this usb modem from ISP telenor .... they provide drives for mac and windows but none for linux ....
[22:36] <chachan> fester77, I'm a s/wed/pan one
[22:37] <fester77> chachan come again plz
[22:37] <george__> Guys, do you know how to listen to mms stream on MPlayer (or front-ends)? I've already tried a lot of players and only totem seems to be albe to handle it...
[22:38] <chachan> george__, have you tried VCL?
[22:38] <fester77> george isnt there a winamp for linux?
[22:38] <fester77> foobar perhaps is for linux to
[22:39] <chachan> george__, I meant VLC, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[22:39] <fester77> vlc WILL do streams
[22:39] <george__> chachan: yes, but vlc is too buggy for me..., it crashes firefox when I try to listen to tune in and vlc mozilla plugin crashes on chromium and does not work on rekonq
[22:40] <fester77> chachan ...what was that about my usbmodem for telenor .... u got it working ?
[22:41] <george__> fester77:i've tried foobnix..., but I'd rather use less apps, if it worked for, say, amarok, the better.
[22:41] <fester77> see im on a emulator trying out linux .... if i go into it full i must know that the modem will work under linux
[22:41] <giantpune> george__, ive never tried it.  but google gave me this   http://linuxers.org/howto/how-download-mms-streaming-videos-ubuntu
[22:41] <chachan> fester77, I made a joke about the similitude between swedish and spanish, sorry
[22:44] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I play mkv files on Kubuntu?
[22:44] <DeltaEpsilon> !mkv
[22:45] <ovidius> george_, two questions: 1. does mplayer work from terminal? 2. do you have the necessary codes for your stream installed?
[22:45] <fester77> how about networking .... now this laptop provides internet on the other laptop thru wifi .... will this one be able to do the same if i go into linux natively?
[22:45] <petete> DeltaEpsilon:  just open it, if you are missing codecs the media player should ask to install them
[22:46] <fester77> deltaepsilon .... vlc does mkv files too
[22:46] <fester77> get vlc
[22:46] <petete> or smplayer
[22:48] <george__> ovidius:i'm using SMPlayer (more options than KMPlayer). The codecs, I've installed kubuntu-restricted, which should be enough. I've installed totem tonight and guess what, it works, it plays mms stream.
[22:48] <DeltaEpsilon> the player does not ask me to install codecs:\
[22:48] <DeltaEpsilon> seems vlc has better kde4 support now
[22:48] <DeltaEpsilon> :-)
[22:49] <giantpune> DeltaEpsilon, you cant go wrong with the kubuntu-restricted package
[22:49] <fester77> how about networking .... now this laptop provides internet on the other laptop thru wifi .... will this one be able to do the same if i go into linux natively?
[22:49] <petete> fester77: you can, but i'm not sure if there is a nice gui for it
[22:50] <giantpune> install that, then restart your media player
[22:51] <ovidius> george_, kubuntu-restricted-extras or -addons?
[22:51] <Zolorado> hi, my WIFI is very-very-very slow with the Kubuntu 11.04, is there any solution?
[22:51] <george__> fester77: on ubuntu, it's very easy to share internet connection. i believe it should be the same for kubuntu (i mean, share a cable connection through wi-fi, like connectify-me on windows)
[22:51] <george__> ovidius: I have both.
[22:53] <ovidius> george_, great that how it should be. ;-)
[22:53] <fester77> right now 3 thing b4 i go from vbox linux to real machine linux .... 1 can linux and windows boxes network (over wifi). 2 can internet be shared on the linuxbox (sharded over wifi) 3. most importantly .... no shipped drivers for my usbmodem (hdspa) for linux , must be able to use it
[22:54] <giantpune> 1: yes.  there is samba, ftp, remote desktop, and probably 1000 other different ways to connect them over wifi
[22:56] <petete> 2. it looks like nm can share a connection, so yes
[22:56] <petete> and 3. buy a new modem :)
[22:56] <giantpune> 3. boot up a live CD and see if it detects your modem
[22:56] <fester77> okey .... last how to set up  a dualboot  win 7 and kubuntu .... dont want to mess up my mbr
[22:56] <giantpune> there arent many things that ship with a CD that contains a driver to install for linux
[22:57] <petete> it will dual boot automatically when you install (k)ubuntu
[22:57] <giantpune> the kubuntu installer will detect windows and do the dualboot stuff for you
[22:57] <ovidius> gerorge_, does "mplayer mms://" in terminal say something normal?
[22:58] <fester77> but will the ubuntu (or kububu) whatever .... will it overwrite win7 or just add an entry so it becomes dual boot?
[22:58] <fester77> ok .... faiur enough
[22:59] <fester77> say this install iso .... can it be run within windows or must i do a real cd and use that?
[23:00] <george__> fester77: no. unless you choose to use your entire drive, then it will overwrite windows.
[23:00] <fester77> remember some other time i tested ubuntu it was ALL done from within windows til it rebooted
[23:01] <fester77> this linux build looks sooo promising ... but its cripled now and its being run from whitin vbox
[23:01] <george__> ovidius: That's funny, the terminal returns 404, no stream found to handle url. Ive JUST listen to it with totem!
[23:03] <fester77> how much space will i need if i do a decicated partition for this OS .... 8 gig as in this vbox sim or even more ?
[23:04] <george__> fester77: it depends, of course.
[23:05] <pune> depends on how much you want to give it.  5GB is enough for root for a basic system
[23:06] <fester77> sure .... but im hoping the this os will borrow resources from win7 .... i e read partitions that has alot of avi or mp3 ....
[23:07] <pune> if you want to install 100000 packages, youll obviously need more space
[23:07] <fester77> im a must have a shitload of programs -dude
[23:07] <fester77> so then 9 gig
[23:08] <pune> i setup a virtual machine with a 4gb root and installed a bunch of packages.  when i tried to porform a system update, it ran out of room in the middle of the process and screwed everything up
[23:08] <fester77> this virtual one is 8 .... got 2.8 - 3 left
[23:09] <fester77> and that not even that muchof programs
[23:09] <pune> it also helps if you put /home on a different partition
[23:09] <fester77> im going to need a bounh of emultaros/virtualizers
[23:11] <fester77> well iĺll research my needs a little .... maybe check back later .... have a good one
[23:13] <EldonG> Ok...I need help...who knows wine?
[23:18] <george__> EldonG: what are you up to?
[23:19] <EldonG> I have old Diablo 2 characters I want to copy into the save folder...but I can't find where it's installed...
[23:20] <EldonG> I downloaded catfish, to do filesearches, but it doesn't find the files.
[23:21] <DeltaEpsilon> god, I am sleepy
[23:23] <george__> EldonG: It should be somewhere on /home/user/.wine
[23:25] <george__> EldonG: C drive or something like that. Don't know about catfish.
[23:25] <EldonG> I find wine under lib32...is that correct?
[23:26] <EldonG> ...and only one folder there...faked dlls
[23:27] <sourcemaker> is there a wiki how to enable opengl and direct rendering?
[23:28] <sourcemaker> I am using a Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[23:29] <pune> hehe.  same one that i have sourcemaker
[23:29] <sourcemaker> pune: is it working fine for you?
[23:30] <george__> EldonG:Look, you have to search at /home/user/.wine
[23:30] <pune> in the settings, i have "OpenGL" selected in the list, and the "enable direct rendering" box checked
[23:30] <EldonG> I'd love to...why isn't it there?  :P
[23:30] <Ddpbf> sourcemaker: wich kde?
[23:30] <sourcemaker> pune: and you are using opengl not xrender?
[23:30] <pune> sourcemaker, its in "configure desktop effects"
[23:31] <sourcemaker> pune: sure... but when I use opengl... my screen flips 180 and I can't ready any  text...
[23:31] <pune> mine never did that
[23:32] <EldonG> Ah...hidden
[23:32] <sourcemaker> xrender seems to be ok... but does not use direct rendering
[23:32] <EldonG> THANK YOU.  :)
[23:33] <Ddpbf> sourcemaker: sudo apt-get install kde-config-qt-graphicssystem
[23:33] <george__> EldonG:cheers.
[23:33] <pune> sourcemaker, i was close.  my graphics says 945GM, not GME
[23:33] <Ddpbf> then you could choose opengl
[23:34] <EldonG> I'm new with Linux.  It's a bit to learn.  :)
[23:34] <pune> but it does say express.  so im not sure if mine isthe same as yours.  but this is it sourcemaker    http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9833/desktop5.png
[23:35] <EldonG> Thanks again, and have a great one.  :)
[23:36] <sourcemaker> Ddpbf: thanks...I am going to try that
[23:37] <Ddpbf> but be very carefull
[23:37] <Ddpbf> it is experimental
[23:37] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:37] <Ddpbf> i would sugest to install backup DE
[23:38] <Ddpbf> :)
[23:38] <pune> install it while running a liveCD :D
[23:38] <Ddpbf> so you could revert change
[23:38] <Ddpbf> LxDE is pretty small 10 or so megabytes
[23:39] <Ddpbf> just start systemsettings from it (in case something goes wrong)
[23:44] <Daskreech> Ddpbf: really? I should give it a try what utilities does it ship with?
[23:46] <Ddpbf> Daskreech: abozt qt-graphicssystem?
[23:46] <Ddpbf> it is modul for system settings
[23:46] <Daskreech> Ddpbf: No I meant LXDE
[23:47] <Ddpbf> err it is gtk
[23:47] <Ddpbf> it is defective by default
[23:47] <Ddpbf> :)