[00:01] <mordagar> i cannot get my sound to work....i have a clean install of natty and from the beginning the sound didnt work along with the wifi because of drivers...got the sound working and than the wifi but when the wifi started working the sound went out and since then i have not been able to get it back on
[00:12] <philipballew> if i have a server is 10.04 better fot the lts or is 11.04 better for the software it has?
[03:33] <ApOgEE> hi all
[09:24] <SyL> I'm trying to install sun-java-jdk and I stalls at configuring duringrunning apt-get. any ideas?
[12:06] <coalwater> what's a good gmail notifier for natty with unity
[12:26] <duanedesign> coalwater: good question
[12:38] <coalwater> duanedesign, and u don't know i presume :D lol
[12:44] <duanedesign> i do not
[13:17] <Daniel0108> coalwater: I use chromium+an extension, I always have a browser opened :)
[13:19] <coalwater> Daniel0108, yea well im a firefox guy
[13:20] <Daniel0108> coalwater: doesn't matter, I also have a firefox plugin ;)
[13:21] <Daniel0108> on my firefox
[13:21] <coalwater> Daniel0108,  link
[13:22] <Daniel0108> coalwater: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/gmail-notifier/ but I just saw that it doesn't work on ff 4
[13:23] <Daniel0108> coalwater: I just found this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/gmail-manager/ :)
[13:23] <coalwater> i wanted a desktop one though
[13:23] <coalwater> yea i remember those
[13:23] <coalwater> used it before
[13:24] <Daniel0108> coalwater: my chromium extension produces desktop notifications, but I also use gmail-notify, it's in the repos
[13:24] <Daniel0108> just type: sudo apt-get install gmail-notify
[13:26] <coalwater> i used several ones, there's on i really liked but it got buggy later on i think,  and i dont if it supports natty or not
[13:27] <coalwater> does it just show the count, or does it show a small snippet of each email ?
[18:00] <coalwater> how do i get a dynamic link to an application logo according to the current theme
[18:09] <Graeleight> I hope I'm in the right place.
[18:09] <stlsaint> Graeleight: right place for what?
[18:09] <Error404NotFound> you have to ask a question to find out
[18:10] <Graeleight> I'm trying to figure out the best way to set my CLASSPATH
[18:12] <Graeleight> what's the best way?
[18:13] <stlsaint> what do you mean classpath?
[18:13] <Graeleight> it's an environmental variable
[18:16] <stlsaint> you mean in your bashrc?
[18:20] <geirha> environment variables you either put in ~/.pam_environment or ~/.profile
[18:26] <stlsaint> geirha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[18:31] <geirha> bashrc is read too late. It won't make it available to the window manager.
[18:31] <stlsaint> iirc bashrc overrides ~.profile
[18:32] <stlsaint> geirha: ah in that sense i wouldnt know
[18:33] <geirha> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles
[18:35] <Beltaine> Is there a way I can set Update Manager to use FTP instead of http? I'm getting all kinds of failures with it using http.
[18:37] <coalwater> what kind of errors? maybe u have invalid repos in the sources list
[18:38] <Beltaine> Are the repos invalid by default? This is a fresh install of 10.04.2 LTS
[18:38] <stlsaint> invalid? no
[18:38] <Beltaine> Basically it will start pulling updates and the progress bar will stop on file 2 of whatever.
[18:39] <Beltaine> If I hit the box for more details, the individual file downloads are showing as all failed, or finished with 0 bytes
[18:41] <Beltaine> after a little while I'll finally get an error saying that not all the packages could be downloaded asking if I want to continue anyway
[18:42] <stlsaint> Beltaine: changer your synaptic pacakage manager server to "Select Best Server"
[18:42] <stlsaint> Beltaine: its in your software sources menu
[18:44] <Beltaine> Trying that now. It got up to file 12 of 124 sat there for about a minute and now giving me the some packages could not be retrieved error
[18:44] <coalwater> are u using any kind of proxies?
[18:46] <Beltaine> not that I can control. I work for a K-12 school district and our ISP filters internet content. It messes with cookies on some websites, and I think it's causing the problem here as well.
[18:46] <Beltaine> I didn't have this problem updating at home.
[18:47] <Beltaine> I was hoping I could force it to use FTP instead and see if it helped
[18:48] <stlsaint> Beltaine: it maybe
[18:48] <Beltaine> ah yeah, I just told it to continue anyway and it gave me a ton of size mismatch and hash sum errors
[18:49] <stlsaint> Beltaine: yea your k-12 network is hindering somehow i would say
[18:49] <stlsaint> packet filtering or anything
[19:19] <philipballew> my jack sensing on my laptop is not working it appears. does anybody know a way to see if that can be fixed?
[19:20] <holstein> JACK?
[19:20] <holstein> jack audio? or power management?
[19:20] <philipballew> yeah. jack audio
[19:21] <holstein> hmmm, you cant get JACK to start?
[19:21] <philipballew> when i unplug the headphones it will take about 50 tries for the speaker to engage and start making sound
[19:22] <coalwater> maybe the speaker wire is getting bad
[19:22] <holstein> OK, yeah, i would try and rule out a hardware issue
[19:22] <holstein> try some different live CD's and see if its the same
[19:22] <coalwater> or try the speaker on any mp3 player or something like that
[19:23] <coalwater> o wait
[19:23] <philipballew> i did a live cd. its the same, and on both ubuntu systems running on my system
[19:23] <coalwater> nvm i got it wrong
[19:24] <philipballew> oh...
[19:24] <coalwater> when u enter a speaker there's 2 metal parts that touch each other that makes the computer know that u inserted something, maybe it's stuck, u might need to change that, if its the jack problem
[19:25] <holstein> philipballew: that seems to support a hardware issue to me
[19:26] <philipballew> it seemes to me that maybe ubuntu is not recongnsing i have takin out the headphones
[19:26] <philipballew> not sure though
[19:26] <coalwater> no, i don't think that's probable
[19:26] <holstein> philipballew: if its the same on a bunch of LIVE CD's, then i would say its not ubuntu
[19:26] <coalwater> u could try windows if u want lol
[19:27] <coalwater> anyway, my shift is over, me going home :D good luck philipballew
[19:27] <holstein> that really is more of a hardware thing anyways
[19:27] <holstein> coalwater: laterx :)
[19:27] <coalwater> see you holstein
[19:27] <philipballew> i wouldd need to dig up my old windows cd. i could try with another distro or should i try with windows?
[19:28] <sw0rdfish> what is the best cli web browser ?
[19:29] <philipballew> sw0rdfish, i would say elinks or links
[19:29] <sw0rdfish> w3m is already installed i heard
[19:30] <sw0rdfish> so i'll give it a shot
[19:30] <sw0rdfish> but wait link2 displays pictures
[19:30] <sw0rdfish> lol i'll get that one
[19:36] <holstein> philipballew: you can look in your pulse settings and see if there are 2 device outputs
[19:36] <philipballew> under sound?
[19:36] <holstein> AFAIK, that is handled by hardware... when you take the headphones out, nothing happens in the OS
[19:36] <holstein> ^ im pretty sure
[19:37] <holstein> philipballew: the reason windows is being suggested is because of the driver support
[19:37] <holstein> fact is, if you try a couple different live CD's, i think its safe to say its *not* your OS
[19:38] <philipballew> what if i install windows in vbox to avoid having to make tons of room on my comp?
[19:38] <philipballew> that might work
[19:38] <holstein> nope
[19:39] <holstein> however, im suggesting you dont need to install windows at all, its just a really good way to test for hardware issues with drivers that are specifically designed for your hardware
[19:39] <holstein> Vbox wont pass through the way you need it too though
[19:39] <philipballew> hum. i can on an external drive maybe
[19:40] <holstein> i mean, its a hardware problem... but, do whatever it takes to convince yourself
[19:40] <Error404NotFound> jam some compressed air up yer jack hole
[19:41] <Error404NotFound> and yes that was supposed to sound wrong
[19:41] <holstein> ^ that cant hurt
[19:41] <Error404NotFound> i see that alot on laptops
[19:41] <philipballew> i think it is hardware but i figure i'll check before having to do any hardware work
[19:41] <Error404NotFound> little dust in there and it wont dc when you take headphone jack out
[19:42] <holstein> philipballew: that not something you would probably work on
[19:42] <holstein> unless the compressed air trick works
[19:42] <holstein> i dont think it would be worth the hassle
[19:42] <Error404NotFound> compressed air is fast and easy why not just do it lol, all laptops need a good cleaning sometime
[19:42] <philipballew> sounds kinda painful to be honest :)
[19:43] <philipballew> i opened it up last week and put in a new motherboard fyi
[19:44] <holstein> well, if you saved the reciept, and feel like doing all that again...
[19:45] <Error404NotFound> did you check to see if yer mobo is fully supported in linux?
[19:45] <holstein> if its the same as the old one, it *should* just work like the old one
[19:46] <holstein> if not, that again supports the theory that its a bad jack
[19:46] <Error404NotFound> is it a brand new mobo or used
[19:47] <philipballew> it was with my warenty. they put it in.
[19:48] <philipballew> i normally dislike people working on my comp but if it is already covered i usually do
[19:49] <Error404NotFound> so then it probably was used
[19:49] <philipballew> i can call them up and have them put another one in by the end of the week if i so choose
[19:57] <holstein> philipballew: i think thats a good call
[19:58] <philipballew> ill install windows on my external and see if that functions well. if it does i will get back on here or something
[19:58] <holstein> i dont think windows will let you do that*
[19:58] <holstein> anyways, im sure you can sort it out
[19:58] <philipballew> i know my way around a ubuntu well
[20:04] <Error404NotFound> i run windows off an external...
[20:05] <Error404NotFound> i use the same windows install on an external for 2 diff computers
[20:06] <philipballew> what version of windows?
[20:06] <Error404NotFound> 7
[20:07] <holstein> i remember it was quite tricky to install XP like that
[20:07] <Error404NotFound> it installs a couple drivers when you switch computer but only takes a few seconds
[20:07] <holstein> i tried for a bit, and decided it wasnt worth it
[20:07] <bioterror> Error404NotFound, based on winpe?
[20:08] <philipballew> i have a copy of 7
[20:08] <Error404NotFound> wtf is winpe
[20:08] <Error404NotFound> ive heard that b4...
[20:09] <Error404NotFound> oh preinstall
[20:10] <Error404NotFound> in win 7 it just works if yer puter has option to boot from external