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codechi14:56
codeci have a problem with my UEC. since my rootfs filled up i cant connect my CC to the NC (same host) anymore. node is registered but describe-availability-zones still shows 000014:57
codecshould there be any messages in nc.log after eucalyptus-nc startup?15:21
codecall i get in cc.log is  refresh_resources(): bad return from ncDescribeResource(172.18.0.2)15:28
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codecwoohoo18:07
codeci got my NC connected again, but now free reports 000018:07
codecwhere max reports 0050 ...18:07
* niemeyer anticipates people coming here..19:00
kim0= Ensemble weekly meeting =19:00
* koolhead17 is present kim0 sir !! :D19:01
kim0Hi everyone19:01
kim0koolhead17: hey there19:01
kim0codec: hi19:01
kim0niemeyer: hi there as well :)19:01
niemeyer;-)19:01
kim0So just some quick notes19:02
kim0The Ensemble ppa is now live19:02
niemeyerkim0: Tell us, what's up with the world of Ensemble19:02
niemeyerWoohay PPAs19:02
kim0All thanks to niemeyer for the great work19:02
kim0trying to find the actual ppa19:02
niemeyerYou're welcome.. and thanks to Launchpad for enabling us to do this19:02
niemeyerI have to say that Daily Builds in Launchpad are *awesome*19:03
niemeyersudo add-apt-repository ppa:ensemble/ppa19:03
niemeyersudo apt-get update19:03
niemeyersudo apt-get install ensemble19:03
niemeyerProfit19:03
kim0Awesome!19:03
koolhead17cool19:03
kim0niemeyer: I was thinking that I'd attack the "zero to Ensemble" scereencast right now19:03
kim0what do you think ..19:03
kim0from plain ubuntu .. to installing and launching wordpress from examples19:04
niemeyerkim0: I think hazmat is working on a screencast right now19:04
kim0oh cool!19:04
niemeyerkim0: Well, at least in the time I'm not pestering him with bugs19:04
hazmatindeed, pretty basic atm19:04
kim0hazmat: would be great if you'd write your name on one you want to do .. coz I'll do the rest19:05
kim0cool then19:05
kim0so the other piece of news is19:05
kim0the principia project is now principia-tools and principia is a distro now in launchpad19:05
kim0I could actually use some more explanations to what that entails19:05
kim0My understanding is each formula is a separate branch now19:06
kim0and that we can file bugs onto formulas19:06
kim0niemeyer: is that correct19:06
niemeyerkim0: That's right19:06
niemeyerkim0: This is part of the world domination plan19:06
kim0hahah19:06
niemeyerkim0: Which in technical terms means having a nice infrastructure for holding formulas in Launchpad19:07
* kim0 nods19:07
kim0any other details to this distro thing19:07
niemeyerkim0: We want to enable a very smooth experience for pushing and consuming formulas19:07
niemeyerkim0: So each formula should be on its own branch19:07
niemeyerkim0: and we're working on more infrastructure to make good use of that19:07
niemeyerSorry, I should be saying that to everyone rather than just kim019:08
kim0the ensemble cli + server integration19:08
niemeyerJust too used to IRC conversations rather than presentations :)19:08
kim0correct ?19:08
niemeyerkim0: yeah19:08
niemeyerYeah19:08
niemeyer:)19:08
kim0Sounds great19:08
kim0is there some path to someone contributing a formula currently19:08
kim0i.e. before the server integration stuff19:09
kim0For example I'm starting on a drupal formula and would love to merge it19:09
kim0and I know koolhead17 wants to start on one as well19:09
* koolhead17 nods19:10
kim0koolhead17: How is it going for you19:10
niemeyerkim0: For now, just push a personal branch to Launchpad19:10
koolhead17kim0: am reading.19:10
niemeyerAnywhere in Launchpad19:10
niemeyerOne formula per branch19:10
kim0Yeah that should be simple19:10
koolhead17i want to start with the simplest of all :)19:10
niemeyerIf you do that, once the infrastructure starts working fully, it'll be trivial to integrate19:10
kim0koolhead17: have something in mind yet ?19:10
kim0niemeyer: thanks for clearing this19:11
kim0niemeyer: Is the PPA built daily19:11
koolhead17kim0: since wordpress/drupal is in process i can think of joomla19:11
niemeyerkim0: It is19:12
kim0awesome .. I may stop running from trunk then :)19:12
niemeyerkim0: Well, you'll continue running from trunk, just more comfortably19:12
kim0Yeah!19:12
kim0Ok that's it for news items19:12
kim0niemeyer: any recent development news you'd like to share19:13
niemeyerConfig settings are almost merged19:13
kim0This should allow passing parameters to formulas19:13
kim0and is going to be great :)19:14
kim0sounds great19:14
niemeyerkim0: Exactly19:14
niemeyerHopefully this week we'll have that in19:14
kim0woohoo19:14
kim0I see "dependency resolution" is in "Needs release" status19:14
kim0does that mean it's close19:14
niemeyerkim0: No, that's bogus..19:15
kim0ah19:15
niemeyerhazmat did a nice spike for us to start understanding the concept pre-UDS19:15
niemeyerThis is about the spikje19:15
niemeyerspike19:15
niemeyerThe feature will come after the repository is working19:15
kim0Is there any discussion about combining the actions from two different formulas19:16
kim0For example .. if I'd like to run a wordpress cluster19:16
niemeyerkim0: In which sense?19:16
hazmatyeah.. that was an experiment against local repository directories not against the remote repo that will be the future of formula sharing in ensemble19:16
kim0they'd have to share files over some shared storage19:17
kim0like nfs or gluster ..etc19:17
kim0that would probably be a different formula19:17
niemeyerkim0: Just add a relation which describes how to configure such storage19:17
hazmatniemeyer, its a deploy with scenario19:17
hazmatthe units of wordpress need local access to the shared storage19:17
niemeyerhazmat: Not necessarily19:18
niemeyerhazmat: It depends on what the intention is19:18
niemeyerhazmat: The basic idea of setting up shared storage is doable with a plain relation19:18
kim0that's running nfs on an external host19:18
kim0just like we do memcache right19:18
kim0cool19:19
niemeyerYeha19:19
hazmatniemeyer, in this case and the case of logging we're left with configuring the local components in an unrelated formula (ie munin configuration for basic stats on the unit, requires a munin relation hook on a un related formula, such that it install and setups munin-node).19:19
hazmatnfs is client/server19:19
niemeyerhazmat: You're assuming too much in that case19:19
hazmatperhaps19:19
niemeyerhazmat: Mounting a filesystem is trivial with a relation19:19
koolhead17kim0: hazmat i can check monit if needed19:20
kim0koolhead17: check in which sense19:20
koolhead17formula :)19:20
kim0koolhead17: create a formulas for it ..19:21
kim0yes that would be awesome19:21
kim0Alright if no one else has any more questions .. that should be all19:21
kim0thanks niemeyer hazmat koolhead1719:21
kim0= Meeting end =19:21
niemeyerkim0: Great meeting, thanks kim019:21
kim0most welcome19:22
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hallyn_afkshould i be able to 'bzr co lp:principia' and get some formulas?  (/me confused)21:22
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hallyn_afkSpamapS: ^21:43
hallyn_afki assume i missed an email or whole thread discussing its moving, but, well, where did it go :)21:44
hallyn_afkprincipia-tools/scripts/getall also appears broken, but leads to the bzr commands I actually need22:03
hallyn_afkheh22:14
hallyn_afkensemble deploy --repository=~/bzr/principia-tools/formulas mysql22:14
hallyn_afk[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/serge/~/bzr/principia-tools/formulas22:14
hallyn_afkcwd, foo!22:14
hallyn_afkyay, that was kind of fun22:22
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pvthodsonjust have a simple question what are some common ubuntu cloud applications23:15
pvthodsonor in other words why would I use a cloud server of a standard server install23:16
pvthodsonanyone here23:18
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obinopvthodson: I'm not sure I undersood your question. UEC gives you a IaaS23:43
obinothis means that you can have instance over which you can install whatever you want23:43
obinoit gives you flexibility in handling your server and machine requirements23:44

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