[08:22] <micahg> hi chrisccoulson
[08:22] <chrisccoulson> hi
[08:23] <micahg> k, so, I guess I wasn't aware of what makes alpha1, bad, so yeah, it doesn't need to be fixed
[08:23] <micahg> however, we do need to fix it before we upload Firefox 5 to natty
[08:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg, testpilot will be disabled automatically then
[08:26] <micahg> ok, then I guess there's not a problem :), do you think it's worth release noting?
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> micahg, actually, that bug isn't fixed in newer NSS versions. i just didn't notice it because that root is stored in my NSS DB
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> which means it worked at some point
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> it's more likely a problem with the issuer
[09:26] <fta> jdstrand, hi. http://paste.ubuntu.com/615675/ (oneiric)
[11:23] <Fudge> anyone here work on firefox orca accessibility
[11:24] <chrisccoulson> Fudge, not that i'm aware of
[11:25] <chrisccoulson> that doesn't mean there isn't someone lurking who does work on it though ;)
[11:25] <Fudge> chrisccoulson  its really frustraiting, for such a long time orca is so damn slow usign ff, since 3.5 i come into usign it all the time. yet on windows it works fine with windows screen readers
[11:26] <Fudge> guess i'd like to appeal or understand why things arent working faster and being improoved for blind people who use orca
[11:41] <fta> chrisccoulson, hi, should I forget about breakpad for chromium? or is there a chance it works on oneiric?
[11:42] <chrisccoulson> fta - i'd like to get it working, i've just been pretty busy with other stuff recently
[11:43] <fta> ok
[14:00] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hey - coming to #thunderbird-untiy?
[14:00] <m_conley> er
[14:00] <m_conley> unity?
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, is that now?
[14:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it is indeed!
[14:38] <TSF> hi there
[14:40] <TSF> Is there a way to disallow the deletion of  messages on the server with thunderbird in IMAP ?
[14:40] <TSF> So messages are only deleted in the thunderbird mail folder ?
[15:20] <jdstrand> fta: ack
[16:09] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: do you guys have a record of buildids for ubuntu Firefox's?
[16:09] <bhearsum> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659854 is trying to figure out where 20110524000446 came from, and the extensions in the crash report indicate that it might be an ubuntu build
[16:09] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 659854 in Breakpad Integration "[5] missing call frame info in several Linux crash reports" [Normal,New: ]
[16:11] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, i don't,but i can check if that's one of our builds. might take me a little while though
[16:12] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, actually, i haven't pushed any symbols for our beta builds
[16:12] <bhearsum> no worries
[16:12] <chrisccoulson> so, it's quite possibly one of ours
[16:12] <bhearsum> ah
[16:12] <bhearsum> do you guys have access to upload to our symbol server?
[16:12] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, i do. i'm a bit concerned about eating space though ;)
[16:12] <bhearsum> oh, cool
[16:12] <bhearsum> heh
[16:12] <bhearsum> i don't think you can approach the amount of usage we have ;)
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> we have a build for each ubuntu version, and the symbols are quite big
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> that's ok then, i'll tell my bot to upload those symbols now
[16:13] <bhearsum> how often?
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, it uploads them every time there's a new build
[16:13] <bhearsum> oh, so daily-ish?
[16:14] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, for the daily builds, yeah. but we only push symbols for the most recent ubuntu version for the dailies (and we turn off the crash reporter entirely for the others)
[16:14] <bhearsum> ahhh, ok
[16:14] <chrisccoulson> but i just totally forgot to push the beta symbols ;)
[16:14] <bhearsum> i wouldn't be too shy about uploading symbols for betas, fwiw, they're really important to us
[16:15] <bhearsum> someone will hunt you down if it becomes a problem :)
[16:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: re cert failure> I think it's worth opening a bug if it's still an issue in newer builds, for some reason, I don't have the issue in my migrated profile
[16:18] <chrisccoulson> micahg, you will have it if you delete your cert8.db
[16:19] <micahg> ah, ok, I was able to reproduce in a clean profile nonetheless
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, do you know who is reponsible for looking after testpilot.mozillalabs.com?
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=661107 seems to be hitting quite a few of our beta users
[16:19] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 661107 in Test Pilot "No issuer chain provided from SSL cert for testpilot.mozillalabs.com" [Normal,New: ]
[16:20] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: yeah, hang on
[16:22] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: Jonathan Xie or Jinghua Zhang is probably who you need to talk to
[16:22] <bhearsum> i just cc'ed them, and IT guy to the bug
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, cool, thanks
[16:22] <bhearsum> np
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> right, beta symbols uploading. this could take a while :)
[16:23] <bhearsum> :)
[16:24] <bhearsum> thanks, by the way!
[16:35] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, they're all uploaded now
[16:36] <bhearsum> ok, great!
[17:35] <chrisccoulson> ooh, hideous: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-beta.head/revision/280
[19:06] <fta> micahg, in case you're not following my commits, i've added a keep-alive mechanism in the chromium daily builds, it should also prevent the arm timeouts you experienced in the past
[19:18] <micahg> fta: cool, thanks, I have a meeting with wgrant later to discuss chromium on arm
[22:40] <fta> chrisccoulson, hideous indeed, esp the cat file | grep ;)
[22:43] <fta> i wonder if i could use this DEB_DH_GENCONTROL_ARGS to use ld-gold only when i want to...
[22:44] <fta> hm, apparently not
[22:46] <micahg> fta: no, build deps have to be determined at upload time
[22:47] <fta> yep, i knew it has been like that for ages, but maybe it changed recently. apparently not
[22:49] <micahg> they can be dynamic so that from the same source, control.in generates one thing for a lucid upload and another for a natty upload