| charlie-tca | skaet: Do you smoke tests on the ISO tracker tonight? | 02:25 |
|---|---|---|
| skaet | charlie-tca, yes, please go ahead and smoke test them. | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | going | 02:42 |
| skaet | thanks! | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 02:42 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu 64bit desktop image has no installer on the desktop | 04:01 |
| charlie-tca | Missing installation icon and menu entry in VBox only | 04:37 |
| charlie-tca | Goiingh | 05:21 |
| charlie-tca | Going to sel | 05:21 |
| charlie-tca | going to sleep, will be back in a few hours | 05:21 |
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| guillemhs | jibel, one problem in iso testing | 10:04 |
| guillemhs | i was doing some post installation tests | 10:04 |
| guillemhs | i don't know where to report | 10:04 |
| guillemhs | jibel, can you tell me where? | 10:04 |
| jibel | guillemhs, launchpad ? | 10:04 |
| jibel | guillemhs, what's the problem ? | 10:05 |
| guillemhs | ubuntu after installation is not operative | 10:05 |
| guillemhs | i can access the desktop, after installation | 10:05 |
| jibel | guillemhs, in a vm or hw ? | 10:06 |
| guillemhs | vm | 10:06 |
| guillemhs | i have an screenshot | 10:06 |
| guillemhs | that is why i am asking | 10:06 |
| jibel | kvm or other ? | 10:06 |
| guillemhs | because i am in the iso tracker | 10:07 |
| guillemhs | Virtualbox OSE | 10:07 |
| guillemhs | version 4 something | 10:07 |
| guillemhs | 4.0.4-dfsg-1ubuntu4 | 10:07 |
| jibel | you can file a bug in launchpad with the screenshot and submit the bug number on the tracker. | 10:07 |
| guillemhs | ok | 10:09 |
| guillemhs | i report as a oneiric bug, no? | 10:09 |
| jibel | once the bug is submitted to launchpad, paste the bug number here, I'll have a look | 10:09 |
| jibel | guillemhs, yes as oneiric, ideally from within the vm with "ubuntu-bug unity-2d" | 10:13 |
| guillemhs | ok | 10:17 |
| guillemhs | done | 10:17 |
| guillemhs | jibel, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/5782/9 | 10:23 |
| jibel | guillemhs, I can't find bug 791107 and bug 791106 on launchpad, are the bug numbers correct ? | 10:27 |
| ubot4` | jibel: Bug 791107 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/791107 is private | 10:27 |
| ubot4` | jibel: Bug 791106 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/791106 is private | 10:27 |
| jibel | or can you make them public is there's no sensitive information | 10:28 |
| guillemhs | how can i do it public? | 10:29 |
| guillemhs | now both bugs are public | 10:30 |
| jibel | guillemhs, thanks, I moved 791121 to the right package. You got this error with the latest ISO ? | 10:30 |
| guillemhs | yes | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | 20110601 | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | ubuntu 11.10 desktop edition i386 | 10:31 |
| jibel | guillemhs, when you get the prompt hit CTRL+D to proceed with the boot | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | ok | 10:31 |
| jibel | and once you're in, run 'apt-cache policy udev' | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | i crashed the vm | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | sorry | 10:31 |
| guillemhs | i am with alternate now | 10:32 |
| guillemhs | ok | 10:32 |
| jibel | because I can't reproduce it here with the desktop image. | 10:32 |
| jibel | bug 791106 | 10:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791106 in gnome-user-share (Ubuntu) "gnome-user-share crashed with SIGABRT in g_option_context_parse() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791106 | 10:34 |
| jibel | it's a known issue | 10:35 |
| jibel | bug 791107 | 10:35 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791107 in jockey (Ubuntu) "jockey-gtk crashed with BackendCrashError in convert_dbus_exceptions() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791107 | 10:35 |
| guillemhs | ok i see | 10:36 |
| guillemhs | damn it, crashed to early the vm | 10:36 |
| jibel | guillemhs, there's no ubuntu 11.10 desktop edition i386 20110601, are you sure that the busybox error is with the desktop image ? | 11:03 |
| guillemhs | i have download from testdrive | 11:03 |
| guillemhs | the latest image | 11:03 |
| guillemhs | from cdimage | 11:03 |
| guillemhs | 2011-06-01 at 9:58 CET | 11:04 |
| guillemhs | i assume it is the latest build | 11:04 |
| guillemhs | the file says that it is modified at 01 jun 2011 01:41:08 CEST | 11:05 |
| guillemhs | i am checking md5sum | 11:06 |
| guillemhs | jibel, 12f5812f5b4143a009b689b842af9e90 ubuntu_oneiric-desktop-i386.iso | 11:07 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 11:08 |
| jibel | ah ok, that's the filesystem time not the id of the image. That's the latest image thanks. | 11:08 |
| jibel | Hey charlie-tca , how are you ? | 11:08 |
| charlie-tca | Just great! | 11:09 |
| charlie-tca | How's it going today? | 11:09 |
| jibel | Good. A bit late on iso testing, but it is not like if the release of alpha 1 was scheduled tomorrow ;-) | 11:11 |
| charlie-tca | I am throwing a couple of new testers in today, hopefully, they will be able to help out | 11:11 |
| charlie-tca | heh, besides, we can stand to do a little testing after the break, right? | 11:12 |
| jibel | yup. New testers that's cool, welcome! | 11:13 |
| jibel | anyone remember how to dump the guest console to a file on the host's filesystem with vbox ? My memory is failing | 11:16 |
| jibel | e.g to collect a kernel oops | 11:17 |
| guillemhs | version 4.0.4 | 11:19 |
| guillemhs | has a log | 11:19 |
| guillemhs | if you go to main window, right click to your vm icon, then you can access the log | 11:20 |
| guillemhs | /home/user/VirtualBox VMs/testdrive-1/Logs/Vbox.log for example | 11:29 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: thanks for the help with the upgrade tests | 12:00 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: screen-reader installs will probably fail for alpha1 | 12:01 |
| charlie-tca | How do you know if you are in 2d or 3d session now? | 12:26 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, unity-2d-panel is running on a 2d session, while unity-panel-service is running for unity | 13:09 |
| charlie-tca | thanks. Then apt-cache policy unity-2d-pane; should tell me? | 13:10 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, pgrep -fl "unity-panel-service|unity-2d-panel" | 13:11 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 13:11 |
| njin | hello friends, is planned a rebuild of amd64 ? | 13:15 |
| jibel | njin, can you set bug 791083 and bug 789798 to public if there is no sensitive information ? | 13:20 |
| ubot4` | jibel: Bug 791083 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/791083 is private | 13:20 |
| ubot4` | jibel: Bug 789798 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/789798 is private | 13:20 |
| njin | jibel:done | 14:05 |
| jibel | njin, thanks! | 14:06 |
| jibel | njin, about bug 791083, from the description it is close to bug 791127. We have no retracer in Oneiric yet, do you think you could install debug symbols and reproduce and generate a stacktrace ? | 14:13 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791083 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791083 | 14:13 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791127 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV in QTJSC::Structure::materializePropertyMap() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791127 | 14:13 |
| guillemhs | jibel, one thing | 14:32 |
| guillemhs | 11.10 alternate installs properly | 14:32 |
| guillemhs | however, unity 2d does not load the menus | 14:32 |
| guillemhs | in VBox 4.0.4 | 14:32 |
| jibel | guillemhs, good news | 14:32 |
| jibel | re installs properly | 14:32 |
| jibel | guillemhs, the menus doesn't load is bug 791213 or bug 791127 | 14:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791213 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV in QMetaObject::metacall() (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791213 | 14:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791127 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV in QTJSC::Structure::materializePropertyMap() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791127 | 14:34 |
| guillemhs | ok | 14:34 |
| guillemhs | nice | 14:34 |
| guillemhs | LSTP works | 14:34 |
| guillemhs | at least in the VM testcase | 14:34 |
| jibel | the first is when you click on places the second when you click on the bfb (top left button with an Ubuntu logo) | 14:34 |
| guillemhs | BTW, nice testcases updates | 14:35 |
| guillemhs | yeah, i have to load the terminal using nautilus | 14:35 |
| guillemhs | such an adventure | 14:35 |
| jibel | the shortcut is ctrl+alt+t | 14:36 |
| guillemhs | ok, nice to know | 14:40 |
| hggdh | jibel, ça va? | 14:51 |
| jibel | hggdh, very well, thank you! | 14:51 |
| jibel | hggdh, you ? | 14:51 |
| hggdh | jibel, I am alive, and almost awake -- so life is good ;-) | 14:53 |
| hggdh | jibel, what can I do? | 14:53 |
| * xdatap1 say hello to jibel and hggdh :) | 14:53 | |
| jibel | Good afternoon xdatap1 | 14:54 |
| xdatap1 | back to testing, like usual :) | 14:55 |
| hggdh | xdatap1, ciao bello! | 14:55 |
| hggdh | (like in Sao Paulo, if I remember correctly) | 14:55 |
| njin | jibel: bug 791083 I can see (you have some obsolete package version installed. Please upgrade....unity-2d-places, libunity-2d-private0, unity-2d-launcher, present in today's update | 14:55 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791083 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791083 | 14:55 |
| njin | mark s fixed then | 14:56 |
| xdatap1 | hggdh, Oi amigo, tudo bem? :) | 14:57 |
| hggdh | xdatap1, tudo :-) e contigo? | 14:57 |
| njin | xdatap1: hola como estas ? | 14:57 |
| xdatap1 | hggdh, tudo perfeito :) | 14:57 |
| jibel | hggdh, you can have another excellent Brazilian coffee, or update the results for server. your take. | 14:57 |
| xdatap1 | njin, non era spagnolo, era portoghese | 14:57 |
| xdatap1 | njin, :P | 14:58 |
| njin | llo | 14:58 |
| hggdh | jibel, I will do both :-) | 14:58 |
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| nux-pier | here, i have to speak english ? | 15:50 |
| jibel | nux-pier, spanglish, frenglish, deutschglish and other are also accepted | 15:51 |
| nux-pier | vous parlez français ? | 15:52 |
| jibel | no frenglish | 15:52 |
| nux-pier | okay | 15:52 |
| jibel | nux-pier, how can I help you ? | 15:53 |
| hggdh | heh | 15:53 |
| hggdh | jibel, interesting, I am getting some unknown failures on i386 on Jenkins | 15:55 |
| jibel | hggdh, what kind of failure ? | 15:57 |
| hggdh | jibel, this is the problem, none visible :-( | 15:57 |
| hggdh | I am re-running four of them, and I attached to the VM | 15:58 |
| hggdh | VMs | 15:59 |
| hggdh | oh, this is bad... | 16:01 |
| hggdh | jibel, on one of the VMs -- it boots on Oneiric, then I see an udevd message stating /run/udev is not writable, for now failing back to /dev/.udev, then a very fast shutdown | 16:02 |
| jibel | hggdh, this is a non fatal warning, it should boot anyway. it's with kvm ? | 16:05 |
| hggdh | jibel, yes | 16:08 |
| hggdh | I know wbout the udevd message, but this is what I could see | 16:08 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: got a couple of new testers trying to do Xubuntu and UbuntuStudio | 16:08 |
| nux-pier | bye | 16:10 |
| nux-pier | thx to jibel | 16:11 |
| nux-pier | :D | 16:11 |
| nux-pier | good luck ! | 16:11 |
| jibel | hggdh, I'm trying here. | 16:15 |
| jibel | IO performance of kvm are soooo poor :( | 16:15 |
| hggdh | heh | 16:15 |
| cr3 | jibel: you are using the virtio driver, right? | 16:16 |
| cr3 | ie vda rather than hda | 16:16 |
| hggdh | jibel, this seems to be eventual, most tests completed successfully | 16:16 |
| jibel | cr3, I honestly don't know. All I known is that it's going to kill my drive | 16:16 |
| cr3 | jibel: assuming you are using libvirt to define your kvm instances, make sure you have <target dev='vda' bus='virtio'/> in your <disk> definition | 16:17 |
| jibel | cr3, thanks, will try that once the install is done. | 16:18 |
| cr3 | jibel: I have a script that automatically installs ubuntu in a kvm instance given an iso image, interested? | 16:18 |
| jibel | cr3, of course I am | 16:19 |
| cr3 | jibel: it's something I wrote last weekend, so by no means complete, but has worked fine for me with server, desktop, kubuntu, etc. | 16:19 |
| hggdh | cr3, don't forget me ;-) | 16:20 |
| cr3 | jibel: I'll polish it today and email it shortly | 16:20 |
| jibel | hggdh, do you also have a kernel oops on swapoff ? | 16:20 |
| cr3 | I'm pretty happy how I do preseeding based on the installation-guide-* package which contains an authoritative preseed for the given release | 16:20 |
| jibel | cr3, if it's polished, it's good to ship. | 16:21 |
| hggdh | jibel, I got it twice, but not today, so far | 16:21 |
| cr3 | jibel: I'm not sure how useful my script really is. while I was writing it, I was constantly thinking: this is ridiculous, something like this must exist already | 16:23 |
| jibel | cr3, how far are you from rewriting testdrive ? | 16:23 |
| hggdh | jibel, actually, not an oops on swapoff, but an oops on a page allocation failure (bug 790712) | 16:26 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 790712 in linux (Ubuntu) "20110531 i386 server ISO: kernel OOPS during install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790712 | 16:26 |
| jibel | hggdh, different one. After the installation, I get a kernel crash on shutdown but only for an i386 guest on an x86_64 host. | 16:28 |
| cr3 | jibel: different purpose, testdrive is just for running a live image | 16:28 |
| cr3 | jibel: my script is actually in between testdrive and vm-builder | 16:29 |
| cr3 | jibel: so, I'm about as close to writing testdrive as it is close to rewriting vm-builder :) | 16:29 |
| jibel | :) | 16:30 |
| jibel | To all testers, Kubuntu candidates are on the tracker! | 16:31 |
| davmor2 | jibel: is it me or is unity shockingly ugly in oneiric? | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | kinda ugly, yup | 16:33 |
| charlie-tca | I got kubuntu alternate 64 | 16:33 |
| jibel | davmor2, what is your definition of ugly ? | 16:33 |
| jibel | davmor2, are you testing with kvm ? | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | jibel: yeap virtualbox no spare hw currently | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | jibel: dash not functioning, app and file lenses closing as soon as they open | 16:35 |
| jibel | davmor2, it's ugly with the cirrus emulation under kvm, but not vbox afaik | 16:35 |
| jibel | davmor2, yes it is not ugly, it is broken then | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | jibel: no backdrop just blue, click on the expose button and you get the natty backdrop on the screens etc | 16:36 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: does that on hardware too | 16:36 |
| hggdh | here when I move to another (still empty) workspace, the display is corrupted with pieces of the previous workspace | 16:37 |
| jibel | davmor2, dash not functioning and app and file lenses crashes are bug 791213 bug 791127 | 16:37 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791213 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV in QMetaObject::metacall() (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791213 | 16:37 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791127 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "unity-2d-places crashed with SIGSEGV in QTJSC::Structure::materializePropertyMap() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791127 | 16:37 |
| jibel | davmor2, the blue background is because we are trying to fix bug 1 | 16:37 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 25 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 761) (dups: 1) (heat: 3726)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 16:37 |
| davmor2 | jibel: it's kinda bad for an alpha but not unforgiveable | 16:37 |
| hggdh | jibel, all 4 re-runs on i386 server succeeded | 16:37 |
| jibel | davmor2, can you file a bug about the expose button behavior ? it's new. | 16:39 |
| davmor2 | jibel: will do | 16:40 |
| jibel | davmor2, thanks, please also add it to the tracker and paste the bug number here so we can track it. | 16:41 |
| davmor2 | jibel: will do there are another couple of quirks too but that might be the vm, I should have some free hw soon if I'm lucky | 16:42 |
| jibel | davmor2, good. we are mainly covering 2d with vms but unity needs testing too. | 16:43 |
| davmor2 | jibel: that's a point I'll have a look at 2d and see if the glitches are still in place there | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I can not get unity to run on my ati 9800 nor my Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | It failed on both of those | 16:45 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, strange, I have no problem with an Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 | 16:48 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: can you confirm that in FF about:startpage is working please | 16:48 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, what do you mean by "I can not get unity to run" | 16:49 |
| davmor2 | jibel: ditto it was unity 2d I was having issues on 3d unity says there was a problem click here to logout | 16:50 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I will confirm as soon as an install finishes | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: when I log out and change session to unity, I get a garbled desktop that is half there, blue wallpaper, dash button missing, white panel on top, and none of the launchers work | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | jibel: ignore me I know what the issue is I need to enable the vb-ose-guest-x11 app and then 3d will work | 17:02 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, blue background and white panel is expected (no default theme yet) but missing dash button and non working launcher is not. Could you please file a bug against unity? | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: it might be that the ubuntu icon is the same colour as the bar to be honest | 17:03 |
| jibel | the icon should be orange without theme | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | there wasn't anything there when I clicked the top left corner of the panel | 17:06 |
| davmor2 | jibel: no the ubuntu logo and the indicators are all the same colour as the panel here, if I click on the dash the icon then shows up as does the dash for me now | 17:07 |
| jibel | davmor2, ok, maybe I changed something here to make it orange. I'll try again on a fresh installation. | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | I couldn't get it work at all here. | 17:09 |
| njin | guys, but running at this speed how many time remain to fix bug n°1 | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | I couldn't launch from the bottom two launcher icons, either | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | njin: as many years as it takes | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | There has never been a time frame for that | 17:10 |
| njin | I hope to fix it soon | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: Ubuntu alternate 64bit manual install still gives no found for about:startpage | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | let me run updates and see if anything is there | 17:13 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: I get no about:startpage either | 17:15 |
| njin | charlie-tca, in ubuntu amd64 too | 17:15 |
| njin | desktop | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I will file the unity bug, yes | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | <davmor2> charlie-tca: can you confirm that in FF about:startpage is working please | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | it is not working | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | but there is a firefox update, so let's see what it does | 17:17 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: after running apt-get dist-upgrade, the firefox startpage is there | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | but the security certificate is still invalid | 17:18 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: haha | 17:19 |
| njin | charlie-tca: noe is working | 17:20 |
| njin | now | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | after running updates | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | it works | 17:20 |
| njin | yes | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | Now how do I get rid of this dash? | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | it worked too, even if the background screwed up | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | is there a bug already for applicaiton | 17:26 |
| charlie-tca | is there a bug already for applications won't close? | 17:26 |
| davmor2 | jibel: on a plus side if you install vb-ose-guest-x11 in 2d mode you can enable 3d unity | 17:31 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: bug 791429, not serious unless you open too many windows | 17:34 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791429 in unity (Ubuntu) "Can not close windows on desktop in Ubuntu session (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791429 | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | For all the efforts to make Ubuntu easier for new people to use, it is much harder to report bugs correctly now | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu QA meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 20 minutes. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | 17:40 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, FF issues are bug 790617 and bug 790469 | 17:42 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 790617 in ubufox (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "about:startpage returns 404 Not Found (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790617 | 17:42 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 790469 in firefox (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "invalid security certificate 11.10 (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 24)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/790469 | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | The about:startpage is fixed after running updates in a fresh install | 17:43 |
| njin | ubuntu-kernel | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | meeting time! | 18:03 |
| xdatap1 | yay! | 18:08 |
| guillemhs | ...? | 18:10 |
| xdatap1 | guillemhs, channel #ubuntu-meeting | 18:10 |
| xdatap1 | bdmurray, about bugs workarounds, anything I can do for helping just let me know: xdatap1@ubuntu.com | 18:37 |
| xdatap1 | bye bye | 18:40 |
| guillemhs | jibel, are you here? | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | Kubuntu desktop 386 crashed during install bug 791487 | 19:25 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 791487 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu crashed during installation from Live Desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791487 | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | going cut grass while it is not raining; will test more when I get the grass cut | 19:48 |
| GridCube | :D | 20:11 |
| GridCube | hello | 20:11 |
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| charlie-tca | jibel: Are you testing kubuntu alternates? | 22:27 |
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