[08:24] <dpm> morning
[08:38] <andrejz> morning
[09:20] <RawChid> Good morning
[09:21] <RawChid> dpm, would you like to enable blueprints for the l10n tools?
[09:21] <dpm> RawChid, hm, I think not for now, I'd prefer only using bugs for tracking features
[09:24] <RawChid> Hmm, I was think of making a list of things TODO, or some sort of roadmap
[09:24] <RawChid> It's a bit vague to me at the moment
[09:25] <RawChid> Only thing I have knowledge of atm are the TODO's in the code
[09:26] <RawChid> FWIW: bugs aren't enabled either
[09:27] <dpm> it's a good idea, but any todo item can also be tracked as an individual bug. Also new features can be described and tracked in bugs. I'm a bit reluctant to open blueprints, because I'm not sure I'll use them
[09:28] <dpm> ok, bug tracker enabled now :)
[09:39] <TLE> good morning guys
[09:44] <dpm> morning :)
[09:47] <AJenbo> morning
[09:50] <andrejz> morning TLE & Ajenbo
[10:29] <yurchor> Hi! There is some weird math in total untranslated message accounting for Scilab. See for example https://translations.launchpad.net/scilab/trunk/+lang/uk
[10:29] <yurchor> Can it be explained in some reasonable way?
[10:31] <dpm> hi yurchor, I only see a list of templates on that link. I'm not sure I understand the question
[10:32] <yurchor> Total untranslated at the bottom of the page is 308. But total untranslated by the items is 114. Why?
[10:34] <dpm> ah, I guess it's because of the other untranslated templates, which don't seem to show the total untranslated strings in numbers (but only in the graph)
[10:36] <yurchor> Hmm, is there any way to show them? Or just to know what are their names?
[10:37] <dpm> hm, I'm not sure actually, at first I thought it might be a bug in launchpad, but clicking on one of the untranslated templates does not allow me to translate them, I'm not sure what's going on: https://translations.launchpad.net/scilab/trunk/+pots/double/uk/+translate
[10:40] <yurchor> It was the blank template (no messages in Scilab pot). I mean the hidden templates with non-zero message count.
[10:40] <yurchor> Empty templates were in the previous revisions, but the statistic was always right.
[10:41] <dpm> yurchor, I'm not sure I can follow, I'm not familiar with scilab translation. You mean that they uploaded blank templates?
[10:42] <yurchor> Yes. The corresponding module conteans no messages to translate.
[10:42] <yurchor> I mean "contains".
[10:42] <dpm> then I'd recommend telling the scilab devs to disable those templates first
[10:43] <yurchor> Thanks.
[10:43] <dpm> ok, now I understand that part, what about "the hidden templates with non-zero message count", which ones do you mean?
[10:44] <yurchor> The ones you've told ("because of the other untranslated templates, which don't seem to show").
[10:46] <dpm> yurchor, can you see this page? -> https://translations.launchpad.net/scilab/trunk/+templates (it might be accessible to project owners only)
[10:47] <yurchor> Yes. I see it now.
[10:48] <dpm> there you can see the list of templates with no strings
[10:48] <dpm> I think the scilab guys should stop importing 0 string pot files
[10:48] <dpm> or disable them
[10:48] <yurchor> Thanks. I will try compare those lists.
[10:48] <dpm> as per the stats, I've just asked on #launchpad:
 henninge, there is still something else, the stats don't match here: https://translations.launchpad.net/scilab/trunk/+lang/uk there is a total of 308 untranslated messages, but in the templates themselves it seems that there are only 114 untranslated ones
 don't bother me about stats
[10:49] <dpm>  ;-P
 dpm: stats are broken and I have no idea in what way. jtv might know more but I think that really the whole stats business needs some series re-thinking and/or fixing.
 ok, I'll forward that to the translator then ;)
 dpm: ok, not really broken, but I just as lost as you are.
[10:49] <dpm> anyway, for more info, I'd recommend asking at #launchpad
[10:49] <yurchor> Thanks.
[10:49] <dpm> no worries :)
[11:13] <andrejz> dpm, since only one package needs to be imported (unity-docs) i believe i can safely mark this as DONE. Do you agree?
[11:17] <dpm> andrejz, definitely, good work!!!