[03:01] o/ [03:02] \o [03:02] \o/ [03:03] \n/ [03:07] Howdy, skellat/SMK [03:08] 'Ello Smk [03:10] Good evening, gents [03:11] Who met the fury of a banhammer? The log was unclear on that one. [03:12] skellat: The line was: +b Bacta!*@* $a:Bacta by nhandler [03:12] (Not from here) [03:12] Hunh. The things I have yet to understand in IRC-land [03:13] someone met the banhammer? [03:13] doesn't sound plesant [03:14] skellat: How long does it take to read the logs? [03:14] Unit193: I skim them. [03:15] grep! [03:16] Oh goody...this news sucks: http://starbeacon.com/local/x962125014/Big-fight-at-Walnut-Beach-results-in-two-arrests [03:17] Squads from Ashtabula City Police, Geneva on the Lake City Police, Ashtabula County Sheriff's Department, and the Ohio State Highway Patrol had to respond to a beach brawl. [03:17] that's a lot of officers for a beach brawl... [03:18] If that beach can get a brawl that big going...that's an opportunity to give out Natty discs [03:18] :-) [03:19] XH [03:19] ER [03:19] XXD [03:19] They wold end up using them as weapons... [03:20] blargh. [03:20] They could [03:21] At least that way they'd be useful. [03:21] Maybe we could secure Xubuntu discs via on-disc.com? [03:22] I'll add my vote to that [03:22] Hmm... edubuntu? My wife's business professor was apparently recommending it.... [03:23] I waved and then I disappeared, sorry [03:24] Heh [03:24] Cheri703: It's all godo [03:24] s/godo/good [03:24] godo [03:24] ? [03:24] hi [03:24] the s/something/someotherthing [03:24] is about substituting or something [03:25] I dunno, it confused me at first, and then I figured out what it was :) [03:25] My questionmark should have been attached to the godo line... XD [03:25] * Cheri703 read a 500 page book last night in 3 hours and another 500 page book tonight in 3.5 (got a slow start, with distractions) [03:25] ah, k [03:26] I ran a bunch of errands today [03:26] it was HOT [03:26] ok... Neighbor's stereo/whatever is annoying [03:26] lots of walking, but then air conditioned bus was nice :) [03:27] Thankfully my house stayed below the temprature outside today... [03:29] I got stuck at work for most daylight hours. [03:29] what is this daylight thing? [03:31] I know someone that said it should be outlawed [03:34] I forgot how catty Joy Behar is [03:34] Who the hell uses bing? I like options, but Google tends to get me waht I want when I need it [03:37] I'm being stared at [03:37] jgould: For what? [03:38] I'm not sure... There is this black furry thing with a snout and long ears staring at me... [03:40] I don't have food or anything... I don't get it [03:41] And I have a cat to tend to [03:41] Goodnight y'all [03:42] wow.... he's out fast. Not a chance to say bye... [03:46] Fark... I need to install XP in a VM and find and install (and relearn) P.A.C.S.S. [03:46] Damn it Ray. I would have prefered your solution... [03:46] * Cheri703 doesn't know what you're talking about [03:47] I'm the defacto score keeper for a model airplane pattren thing my dad puts on every year... [03:47] ah [03:48] I'm out for a while, may be back, we'll see. ping me if you need me [03:49] sounds dirty [03:54] silly dog... [04:00] all of this stuf that OSU is being investagated for, happens at every Division 1 school... [04:15] My back hurts... [04:15] dmcglone? [04:15] :D [04:16] Heh [04:18] I think red light cameras should be illegal... [04:19] Did one catch you? [04:19] I've been caught by one for speed. that was years ago (and the damn thing has been taken down...) [04:20] Haha... Wife got her Title IV letter... she can stay in school. :) [04:20] * jgould has no clue what that is [04:21] * jgould installs Windows... [04:21] Basically stating that she isn't really in default and the loan guarantor screwed up and reported her wrong. [04:21] God [04:21] er Good [04:22] Heh. [04:22] she thought she was gonna have to drop out. :/ [04:22] She met a chick in her business class that also uses ubuntu... Kinda cool. [04:23] Cool. I think there are more of us out there than people realize [04:25] I'm tired of hearing about OSU Football [04:27] Yeah.. We may have enough people to do U-hour here... (Just me and my wife seemed kinda silly...) [04:27] Heh [04:30] why does windows make you enter a wifi key twice? idiots [04:31] jgould: even worse... why does Win 7 REQUIRE that a wep key be all-caps? [04:31] sometimes it's hard enough to get the key right the first time [04:31] It does? [04:31] stupid M$ [04:32] yep. I went round and round and round with customers trying to get wireless working with win 7 when it first came out. [04:33] dumb [04:37] * jgould prepares to shoot the dog... [05:01] Hmm... Bordem [05:03] Dang! Friend can't go to U-H (I didn't even remember when it was...) [05:03] Unit193: that's ok. I can't go either. [05:03] canthus13: You should try to make it ;) [05:03] I should be at ours! I think I made waves when it came to ours though.. [05:04] Where is it even? [05:04] Unit193: Mansfield is too far for that. [05:04] where is what, Unit193? [05:05] canthus13: You would only have to walk half way! [05:05] Unit193: I may be getting a ride from skrappjaw (maybe), if so, I could ask if we could swing by to get you [05:05] jgould: C-Bus U-H? [05:05] Gilbert said that we would meet at the Clintonville Panera at 1900 [05:06] (I'm waiting to see this in an email, of course) [05:12] Hmm... Cisco doesn't show the router as being scanned in yet [05:14] slow asses [05:14] Heh. [05:15] If I had the money I would have just replaced it... [05:15] :/ [05:17] For what I paid for that one, I could get the Valet Plus that has 10/100/1000mbit wired ports... [05:17] Can it run any good f/w? [05:17] my e2000 was 65 bucks... [05:18] I paid 80 I think, but that was over a year ago [05:18] they were new then [05:18] Now they are 65 [05:18] ish [05:23] Unit193: the e2000 and e3000 will run DD-WRT for sure... prolly run tomato too. [05:24] I hate how if you don't use the software that came with the valet, you lose the guest network (not that I've ever used it....) [05:24] * Unit193 needs to setup another bridge/wireless card :D [05:26] * jgould bridges Unit193 [05:30] jgould: Install DD-WRT and gain it back. [05:30] Or use the two radios to split the N and G connections. [05:31] that way N can take advantage of the full speed and G can still connect. [05:31] :( Not available for my router [05:31] ...Which model? [05:31] Cisco Valet M10 [05:33] Looks like they had test firmware available last september... [05:33] http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=486976 [05:35] make sure you prop the back up a bit for airflow.. that stupid design is prone to overheating. [05:35] * canthus13 has the back of his e2000 raised about 1 inch... Helps a LOT. [05:38] I pulled down the firmware. I have nothing to lose in the grand scheme of things [05:39] Make sure you do the 30/30/30 reset on it. [05:39] 30/30/30? [05:40] Hold the reset button in for 30 seconds, leave it held in and pull the power cord... count 30 seconds again... with the button *STILL* held in, plug the power back in, count another 30 seconds. [05:40] then let go. [05:40] Lemme dig up the instructions for my router.. should be the same except for the firmware version. [05:40] I'm looking at the instructions now [05:41] Ah.. I didn't see instructions there. :) [05:41] * canthus13 has done 3 or 4 of these routers, none bricked. :) [05:43] I'm not worried about bricking. You can *generally* unbrick things. It may take a little bit of time though [05:43] Ah. an M10 is just a 160N v3... [05:44] Linksys/Cisco has gotten so freaking confusing in their naming conventions. :/ [05:45] Yep [05:48] Anyway... I'm off to bed. Gotta kick the wife out of the house by 7am so she can take care of her financial aid stuffs. [05:48] Gotta kick her out XD Night [05:52] She's tough to get going in the mornings... :) [05:56] You're not gone yet! [06:04] I'm tough to get going in the mornings as well [06:08] Shit... I'm going to need to go to my parents and play with the all in one printer and make sure I can get it to work (that or I'm gonna need a whole nother comptuer...) [06:10] * oda_ cannot believe he really watched Waynes World [06:15] I don't think I've ever seen it [06:16] jgould: you don't need it [06:16] jgould: Paramount cranked out some pretty hilarious movies in the 90s, that is not one of them. [06:17] Heh [06:22] * jgould ponders something to watch [06:26] jgould: Good Will Hunting [06:26] excellent movie [06:28] I don't have that one and I would need to be in the MacOS to stream from NetFlix [06:28] . [06:28] ._. [06:29] Fight Club? [06:29] never gets old [06:29] Never seen that etiher [06:29] O_O [06:29] jgould: watch that one for sure [06:29] But I do know that the number one rule is that you don't talk about fight club [06:29] * oda_ ordered the paperback [06:30] haven't received it [06:30] * jgould doesn't do dead tree books any more. Prefers 0's and 1's for his books [06:33] * oda_ doesn't like to stare at an LCD for hours [06:34] I have an e-reader [06:34] with e-ink [06:34] which one? [06:34] Sony PRS-505 [06:46] is it bad that I try to use the wrong mouse on the wrong computer? [06:47] that may complicate things a bit, yes [06:49] I hate it when bugs fly into the window... [06:52] Whats' the last thing that goes through a bugs mind when it hits a windshield? [07:02] jgould: is this a riddle? [07:03] It's a joke [07:04] Care to take a gander? [07:08] of course [07:08] hmm... I'm worried about the linux version of this program's future... [07:08] It's ass. [07:08] it's the last thing that goes through it's mind [07:08] dohohohohoho [07:08] :) [07:09] That and spelling support is better for this program in the MacOS [07:10] lol mac [07:11] what? [07:11] it's my prefrence over Windows... (I dislikes windows) [07:26] * oda_ hugs his win7 partition [07:27] Win 7 is ok. It's better than vista [07:29] vista was fine if you didn't have ancient hardware....or peripherals [07:30] indeed it was not a good operating system to put on OEM machines [07:31] my AMD sempron craptop came with that on it and no joke, it took 7 MINUTES to become usable with all of the bloatware and vista that HP crammed it with [07:32] That's one thing I hate about buying a prebuilt windows machine is all the bloatware [07:35] and HP didn't provide support for WinXP either, it wouldn't even install D: [07:37] Windows XP wasn't bad. Win 2000 was one of the last stable versions of Win, in my opnion. (I haven't used 7 Extensivly so I can't pass judgment on 7) [07:40] jgould: works fine for me [07:41] This will very likely be my last Mc [07:41] er Mac [07:43] * oda_ touched a mac once [07:43] first time, 2 months ago [07:44] * oda_ never wants to touch one again [07:44] It's a pain in the ass to get Ubuntu working on [07:44] spent a few hours playing with OSX...waste of time [07:45] Why do you say that? [07:49] 1. trying to get hackintosh to work is a huge pain 2. there's like what, 2 programs that windows doesn't have that OSX does 3. the absence of right click is enough to make me want to throw a small child into traffic [07:51] 1. Hacintoshs are against the EULA, 2. what two programs? 3. I have right clicking in MacOS [07:55] lol against the EULA [07:55] can't afford that apple expensive apple shit [07:57] My MacBook Pro cost me less than a sony laptop that has a Core i3 with a smaller screen and less ram and hard drive space [07:57] oh god [07:58] why 'oh god' [07:59] the macbook pro is extravagently expensive, costs more than everything I own combined. [07:59] $1199 is extravagently expensive? [07:59] uhhhh, yes [08:00] I can't argue with that [08:01] check out the ASUS gaming laptops for $500-$700.... [08:01] pretty cool stuff [08:01] My next machine will probably be a System76... [08:06] I would kill for one of these http://www.chipsdigitalpc.com/products/ASUS-G50Vt-X5-15.4%22-Gaming-Notebook-Core-2-Duo-P7450.html [08:06] almost got one for $430 shipped but didn't have the money at the time [08:07] hmmm, link doesn't seem to work [08:08] 2.5ghz C2D, 512mb 9800GS, 4gb RAM, 1680x1050 17" display, 320gb HDD [08:09] I'm not a gamer so i don't care about the video [08:10] regardless, it's great hardware for a laptop at that price point [08:10] agreed [08:10] nothing from HP, Dell, etc etc really compares [08:11] funny that you mentioned sony [08:11] * oda_ didn't know they still made laptops [08:11] Yep. [08:11] probably a huge markup on them [08:11] they make some tiny ones too [08:12] I sold my quad core/8gb RAM/GTX260 machine and just got a netbook [08:12] does everything you'd want it to [08:12] 150 dorra used, mint condition. Only uses a maximum of 20 watts or so at full load [08:13] keyboard is too hard for me to type on. My mom has an HP netbook and I can't type on it for extended periods [08:14] hmmm [08:14] must have very large fingers [08:14] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/5767294778_3266bb478d_b.jpg [08:16] Nope. I have relitivley small hands. (for a guy anyway... I'm built more like a girl...) [08:22] My desk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jgould/5785620032/ [08:23] nice keyboard [08:25] Which one? [08:29] the external keyboard to the right [08:30] http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5096/5566741897_396f13e24b_z.jpg [08:30] size comparison [08:30] 15.4" HP, 10? 12"? powerbook, 10.1" EEE [08:31] I still to this day want a 12" TiBook. Perfect machines for writing... I have the BT keybaord that is the same as the one on the right as well [08:32] the keyboard WAS pretty nice [08:32] same with the HP [08:33] My wife has Dell Insprion 600m that I can tolorate, but not for long periods... [08:44] damn that ping [14:08] jgould: Guess that didn't work... New one uploaded and it will be sent later [14:36] hi all [14:37] Howdy, Derath-Srvr [14:37] Unit193: It worked kinda [14:37] Howdy Derath-Srvr [14:38] jgould: Are you kidding? It's never been worse... [14:41] I read some of the comics... [14:41] :D [14:42] Anyone know if I can force banshee to encode a disc as one file? [15:12] I'm guessing not... Did you ask in another channel? [15:12] Not yet [15:15] okay, loving my android even more... found carcast, and pulling down podcasts with it :) [15:15] I can comment out a comment? :D [15:15] Now I just need a way to play it over the car speakers... or get a cheap mp3-player-type speaker... [15:16] canthus13: Didn't setup SASL? [15:17] (I did because of the stupid timeouts...) [15:27] carcast, Derath-Srvr I take it thats a podcast receiver for Andriod? [15:31] Derath-Srvr: I used a tape adapter...one of the old school ones (former vehicle had tape and cd) [15:43] Unit, I got all of these amongst the mess in teh middle [15:43] That's what I do, Cheri703 [15:43] jgould: Yep, podcatcher, pretty nice so far... [15:44] * jgould makes a note of it [15:44] Cheri703: No tape... CD receiver... [15:44] ah, they have those fm transmitter things [15:44] they're kinda crappy though [15:44] any aux input? [15:44] some have aux inputs [15:44] I think I have a set of rca jacks in the back of it, but I'd have to yank out the unit... [15:44] those may be for an amp as well [15:44] not for input [15:45] fm transmitters have always had bad quality [15:46] May just use a cheap, mono, battery-powered speaker [15:46] Damn... Some friends of mine can't win... Truck is in the shop... Again... [15:47] lol [16:26] Unit193: I haven't bothered... I really don't time out very often. [16:28] I also setup SSL at that time (I don't think it's needed) [16:30] Okay, how to turn off apache for port 443? [16:31] killall apache? Disable SSL support [16:31] Ah... okay, so need to find the SSL directives... [16:35] hmmm... [16:35] Do you have an include with httpd-ssl.conf ? [16:36] Doesn't seem like it [16:36] Found it... [16:36] ssl.conf in conf.d [16:38] Comment that line out in httpd.conf (and LoadModule ssl_module ) [16:39] Actually, went into ssl.conf and changed the port number :) [16:39] Just in case I need it later for svn [16:39] That works too... [16:40] Guess I need to change the firewall around as well lol [16:41] Interesting... [16:41] So I thought I would try https on standard port, and getting error: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long.... [16:43] Ah... figured it... [16:43] :) [16:44] pesky records... [16:44] more like nit-picky conf files lol [16:45] same thing... [16:45] Okay, so that's changed to a different port, now I need to change my ssh conf for the new port... [16:46] Will have to do that later when I'm not currently connected ;) [16:46] As long as you do the router first... [16:48] Router already has 443 opened [16:48] for http [16:48] Just need to open for the new https port [16:49] Point though is that I don't want to change ssh port while I'm in a place that I can't fix it if it goes wrong lol [16:50] My router has SSH built-in (It's great for backup tunnel/access) [16:51] Oh, let me check the new Col UH location... [16:51] Anyone have that handy so I don't have to get my phone and all out? lol [16:51] The address is 4519 N High Street, Columbus, OH 43214 [16:52] Clintonville Panera [16:53] Hmm... [16:53] looks like still 270N to 23S... [16:54] How's traffic around there? [16:55] May not be able to go this week (a little short notice), but can try another time [16:55] I would have no idea... (7pm) [16:56] Also trying to look for parking... lol [17:07] There is parking behind the building, Derath-Srvr [17:07] ^^^ important detail for any announcement [17:08] You mean like how parking was paid at the old UH location? [17:10] Ow... My back [17:19] Cool... [17:19] I might try to make the next one then, it's in 2 weeks, right? [17:20] the 15th? [17:23] Should be [17:28] canthus13: you see it looks like the ubuntu server folks are leaning towards x2go as the standard remote desktop setup? [17:36] thafreak: Eh? [17:36] For remote setup or remote access? [17:36] remote desktop access [17:36] for "desktops in the cloud" [17:36] and such [17:37] alrighty then [17:37] they did a "try out ubuntu in the cloud" type deal this past release... [17:37] i couldnt' get htat to work [17:37] but they used the nomachine's proprietary nx stuff to enable access from a web browser [17:38] what couldn't you get to work? The test drive stuff? [17:43] Yeah. IT didn't ever load [17:44] Ubuntu or Debian server... Hmmmm [17:45] I'm running Ubuntu 10.04LTS on my server... seems to be working well [17:46] * Derath-Srvr goes and hides in the shadows, avoiding eye-contact [17:46] LOL Derath-Srvr. You're running Fedora, aren't you? [17:46] Ummm.... [17:46] yeah [17:46] For the server anyways [17:46] thafreak: Nope. [17:47] Derath-Srvr: How is that working out? [17:47] Debian seems nice because of rolling... [17:47] Well, I can still access screen and irssi lol [17:47] canthus13: sadly it seems like freenx might get completely abandonded [17:47] * canthus13 hasn't messed with anything besides FreeNX.... which prolly has pretty hefty requirements for a terminal server. [17:47] it's a little dated though, don't think I can get updates on it now... [17:47] thafreak: Ya think? Nomachine is still around... [17:48] yeah, but when version 4 comes out, they're not putting out any more open source... [17:48] ah. As long as x2go does what I need it to do, I don't really care. :) [17:48] so it looks like 3.5 might be the last version of the libraries they release [17:48] * canthus13 is eyeballin' it right now. [17:49] it does, and it's alot easier to setup...just their client is weird... [17:49] A lot more client options, though... [17:49] but they're working on a python client library...which should make it easy to develop better clients [17:50] well...I switched to freenx for the time being... :) I'm waiting for development on x2go to settle down a bit [17:50] Shit... Maemo/Meego, windows, gtk, qt, firefox plugin, PXE boot... [17:50] Lots of options... But no android client? :/ [17:50] maybe when 11.10 comes out, and x2go is incorporated, it will be slick [17:51] nope, no android client... [17:51] yeah, but a maemo client...and it worked too...I ran it on my n810 [17:51] beh. fsck 11.10. [17:51] and actually ,the gtk client was dropped [17:51] for now atleast [17:52] * canthus13 is switching to Zenix when 10.10 EOLs. [17:52] ha... [17:52] zenix? that's a new one... [17:52] Just gotta find a way to disable raise on click. [17:52] is it debian based? [17:52] thafreak: Yep. Awesome or Openbox as WMs. [17:52] It's not bad, actually... I've been playing with it in a VM. [17:52] so basically it's like crunchbang? :) [17:53] http://zenix-os.net/ [17:53] A little more polished than crunchbang, but yes. [17:53] Still suffers from a small dev base, but not as bad as crunchbang. [17:54] A patent holding company is sueing Apple over the use of Intel procesors... [17:54] seriously? [17:54] this shit has gone too far [17:54] So how long before I'm sued for driving a chevy? [17:54] stupid patent trolls [17:54] the also hit intel and hp [17:54] canthus13: they won't sue you...you don't have millions of dollars to take away [17:54] true. [17:55] Lodsys went after iOS developers [17:55] One good thing about being relatively poor...no one will bother suing you :) [17:55] you'd think... [17:55] well, except for the RIAA/MPAA [17:56] they consider the court system a revenue stream... [17:56] some have gone so far as to openly declare the court system to be a major revenue stream. [17:58] The RIAA/MPAA thing is because they need to change thier business models to match the current times... (and quit charging so damn much for shit) [18:05] canthus13: Mind doing support? I'm not the best at Debian atm... [18:05] Unit193: eh? [18:06] Over in #Zenix when the others are not currently there... I would call myself newish to the Debian side of things [18:07] I can try a bit... :) [18:07] bodhi_zazen is there now so it wouldn't be too bad... [18:09] ...or you could just laugh when I try ;) [18:09] :D [18:11] Hrm... X2Y at least designed the tech that they're suing over, rather than just being a patent holding company... [18:20] canthus13: How hard would it be for a noob to setup a Debian server? [18:20] Not hard, Unit193 [18:20]