[00:00] <The_Explorer> very funny
[00:00] <StevenSS> I am running this out of VirtualBox if that matters any
[00:02] <The_Explorer> What does this measure to ?[Linux                    0   1  1 96051 197 17 1543071680]
[00:07] <The_Explorer> This test disk isnt very descriptive, I realize these numbers seperated in sequence mean things about my harddrive, Im not too savvy, but if i can google if i just... have a legend.
[00:07] <fission6> whats the prefered way to install mongodb, i am having trouble with apt-get install mongodb
[00:07] <pspeter3>  fission6, download it from the website and put it in your documents. Then add an export to add all of the files in mongodb/bin to your path
[00:08] <fission6> sudo apt-get install mongodb no good?
[00:08] <pspeter3> fission6, never worked for me
[00:08] <fission6> yea nor for me
[00:08] <fission6> cant be found
[00:08] <pspeter3> never had issues with my way to install though
[00:09] <fission6> just sort of weird no?
[00:09] <fission6> i am downloading to Workspace and will untar and add to path i guess
[00:10] <dforthman> http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Ubuntu+and+Debian+packages
[00:10] <dforthman> my google fu is supurb
[00:12] <fission6> lets see if this works, thanks dforthman
[00:12] <edbian> The_Explorer: Look at the little disc utility thingy.  It is extremely informatve
[00:13] <The_Explorer> Disk utility?
[00:13] <edbian> The_Explorer: using unity?
[00:14] <edbian> The_Explorer: palimpsest is the command for it.  It's very handy and informative about your harddrives.  It is graphical though.
[00:15] <roasted> If I have two NICs in my system that are actively running, is there a way to tell which NIC is doing what job?
[00:15] <dforthman> alright, walmart run. spent all day at the beach and now i'm red as a fresh crayon. i'll be back later to implement more of my supurb google fu in a little while
[00:16] <The_Explorer> Yeah... That utility. I dont actually need to know the information about my drive, such as size, interface, FS type. What i need to do is understand how the files are mapped on a disk and reverse engineer a discovery to recover a partition i accidentally deleted, or at least some of the files.
[00:16] <The_Explorer> but thankyou for the thought.
[00:16] <edbian> The_Explorer: I have no idea.  haha.  You can look at things like, bad sector count, and sector move count using disc utitlity.  I don't think it can help you but it is more than 'size of the drive'
[00:17] <losty> hello
[00:18] <dforthman[afk]> The_Explorer - Have you tried TestDisk? I used it once to recover the partitions off a disk that failed once. May want to look in to that.
[00:18] <dforthman[afk]> It's been a while since I've used it, but it's worth a shot right?
[00:19] <edbian> losty: hi.  Problem??
[00:23] <losty> hello, is there a way to install windows .inf driver file on 11.04?
[00:23] <losty> just wondering, as needed to install web cam drivers
[00:23] <edbian> losty: Usually no.  The only except is ndiswrapper which is used for wireless cards.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> losty: No. Are you sure your webcam doesn't have native drivers?
[00:24] <edbian> losty: Yes, are you sure the webcam doesn't work already?
[00:24] <losty> hi edbian and Jordan_U
[00:24] <losty> sorry just getting to grips qwith irc
[00:24] <Jordan_U> losty: Hi.
[00:25] <naoko> Yo, anyone else have random logout issues on 11.04?
[00:25] <losty> the native drivers not working with my webcam
[00:25] <naoko> I've disabled my screensaver already, so it cannot be that.
[00:26] <naoko> It only seems to happen when applications that connect to the internet are open (e.g. Chrome, Firefox, xChat, etc.)
[00:26] <dforthman[afk]> naoko - It logs you off completely or locks the screen when you idle?
[00:26] <nicofs> I have some issues with my WLAN connection. For no apparent reason, I am unable to connect ("bad password") and after a while i get "no networks available" until i reboot... where can i start to tackle this issue...?
[00:26] <naoko> dforthman: complete logoff, and not only when i'm idle, sometimes i'll be typing in an address and BAM!
[00:27] <Jordan_U> losty: What happens when you try to use your webcam with cheese?
[00:27] <dforthman[afk]> Oh wow, that sucks. I don't have 11.04 myself, but I'll see what I can dig up when I get back from the store.
[00:27] <edbian> nicofs: When the problem occurs look at dmesg to see errors.  dmesg is sort of a running log.  Look at it before the problem and then again after it to see the differences (things are only appended to dmesg so you can just look at the end)
[00:27] <naoko> I am completely stock aside from LAME, Google Chrome, Fluendo Codecs, and Transmaggedon
[00:28] <nicofs> edbian, well, there is no error as such... just "bad password"... and scanning for networks not returning anything is not a classic error either - is it?!?
[00:28] <johna> I am trying to work out the correct "partition" for a webdav space, It will be used for long term storage of photos & documents. ~6 users mixed windows and linux. I have read the LFH docs, but they don't really help.
[00:29] <edbian> nicofs: No, that's why you should look at the output of dmesg
[00:29] <dforthman[afk]> naoko - Take the advice edbian just gave nicofs. Take a look at /var/log/dmesg and see if it's telling you what is causing the logout issue
[00:29] <nicofs> edbian, ok, i'll try...
[00:30] <replicasex> Is there an official banshee IRC?
[00:31] <sparc> Hey there.  Has anyone been able to send the installer's output to a remote syslog?  Or maybe know a way?
[00:32] <blz> quick question:  what is the command to back up the encryption key for an encrypted home directory?
[00:32] <roasted> If I have two NICs in my system that are actively running, is there a way to tell which NIC is doing what job?
[00:32] <sparc> I have a broken console, and it's difficult to see why a particular install is failing
[00:33] <losty> its a sony laptop model VGN SZ5MN
[00:33] <losty> i have searched online
[00:33] <losty> and found that it has worked on previous versions of linux mint
[00:33] <losty> but cant seem to get it to work using the fix that was applied
[00:33] <losty> i found the windows driver, but not sure how to get it to install
[00:33] <losty> i know that ndiswrapper used for wireless cards, but wondering if any way to apply similar way to install web cam driver
[00:33] <naoko> Linux Mint may be based on ubuntu losty, but I might want to check with the mint devs if it's worked on straight-up Ubuntu
[00:33] <FloodBot1> losty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <edbian> roasted: Look at wireshark that can bind to a particular interface, tcpdump which is CLI (and can bind to a particular interface), and nethogs which tells you what apps are generating which traffic.  Somewhere in there is what you're looking for I think.
[00:34] <replicasex> #banshee
[00:34] <p3rp> hello
[00:34] <naoko> ok dforthman
[00:35] <p3rp> is installing 11.04 on hp dv6500 problematic?
[00:36] <icar0> hi
[00:36] <replicasex> Every time I try to download a podcast in banshee it deicdes to download every single podcast.
[00:36] <replicasex> Gah
[00:36] <icar0> somebody have problems with ubuntu 11.04 and chipset atheros
[00:37] <icar0> im trying any forum solution but wifi fails
[00:38] <john_rambo> Hi .... I want to install a local deb package ,,,,,using dpkg doesnt download the dependencies automatically ..........I need to follow which method to achieve this from the command line ?
[00:39] <naoko> dforthman[afk]: http://pastebin.com/TtVPbFNy
[00:47] <Koobilitoo> !info airtime
[00:48] <edbian> !facetime
[00:48] <edbian> thought I'd give it a shot
[00:49] <new2net> Ubuntu software center got locked up and kept one of my processors at 100% when I tried to remove totem (media player). Went cpu temp went from 34deg'C to 55... some kind of logic bomb?
[00:50] <edbian> new2net: Probably the dependency mess is my guess.  Things depend on totem.  Totem depends on things
[00:50] <new2net> edbian: yeah I think a crazy amount of things depend on totem :)
[00:51] <edbian> new2net: Can you remove it using apt-get or aptitude?
[00:51] <kudu> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postfix/postfix_2.7.0-1ubuntu0.1_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[00:51] <kudu> how to fix?
[00:51] <edbian> !pam
[00:51] <IdleOne> !pamerr
[00:51] <new2net> edbian: I didn't really want to remove it anyways ;) just wanted to see what would happen if I tried
[00:51] <edbian> new2net: haha, the system freaks
[00:53] <vinnyp6056> hey all
[00:54] <edbian> vinnyp6056: hi
[00:54] <vinnyp6056> how's it going?
[00:54] <losty> hello vinnyp6056
[00:54] <vinnyp6056> hey all
[00:54] <vinnyp6056> hey losty
[00:55] <vinnyp6056> I'm have a server setup
[00:55] <vinnyp6056> and I would like to send a message to the servlet on the server without passing the message as a parameter in the url
[00:55] <YankDownUnder> "I'm have a server setup" is very descriptive.
[00:55] <vinnyp6056> is that possible?
[00:56] <vinnyp6056> lol... I meant I have a server setup
[00:57] <vinnyp6056> I was reading that the soap is a message protocol
[00:57] <Kre10s_> v_v vinnyp6056, I'm going to assume you have a webserver with some kind of software on it that is capable of handleing http requests...
[00:57] <vinnyp6056> yes
[00:57] <vinnyp6056> apache2, and tomcat
[00:57] <vinnyp6056> tomcat6
[00:58] <vinnyp6056> they are running a servlet right now
[00:58] <Kre10s_> if you want to send data the easiest way is to do it with a get or a post request.
[00:58] <Kre10s_> get is in the url post is not.
[00:58] <vinnyp6056> but when I do so the message is in the url as in "url?msg=STRING"
[00:58] <Kre10s_> POST
[00:59] <vinnyp6056> a post from a http?
[00:59] <vinnyp6056> within I should say
[01:00] <wagle> how soon for latest upgrade to be downloadable, and/or this FAQ added to /topic?
[01:00] <vinnyp6056> I am curious to know if I should move to SOAP?
[01:00] <Kre10s_> yes. you craft an http request with post data
[01:00] <Kre10s_> no idea.
[01:00] <vinnyp6056> is that the best way or should I go to SOAP?
[01:01] <vinnyp6056> Kre10s... is SOAP worth moving towards
[01:03] <Kre10s_> no idea.
[01:14] <earthmeLon> Hey guys.  I have wlan0.  I want to make wlan0 and wlan1.  I have NO IDEA what I should be googling.  Any suggestions?
[01:14] <jenksed> How do I access command line Emacs... when I type in emacs it brings up the gui. Me don't want to use the gui.
[01:15] <edbian> earthmeLon: You have two wireless interfaces?
[01:15] <earthmeLon> I do not, edbian
[01:15] <kb3gtn> earthmeLon: via vlan0 and vlan1 you talking about having 2 wireless cards?
[01:15] <edbian> earthmeLon: You want wlan0 to be wlan1 instead?
[01:16] <earthmeLon> kb3gtn, edbian I want to duplicate the interface.  I'm pretty sure I did it years ago.  For example, to put one into monitor mode and to have one connect to an AP, using the same device
[01:16] <qin> earthmeLon: airmon-ng
[01:16] <kb3gtn> ^ yup
[01:17] <edbian> earthmeLon: It's called an alias  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html
[01:17] <edbian> earthmeLon: I'm sure it's the same for wlan0
[01:17] <kb3gtn> I think alias would give you wlan0:1  and not wlan1..
[01:18] <sean-desktop> hi all.  quick question - i use my ubuntu laptop (Xubuntu 11.04 ) to allow my 360 to access the wireless network in my house but i dont know how to allow it to access the windows media center extender on my desktop over the network. any ideas?
[01:18] <Gosha> I'm trying to compile something that requires libpulse. So I've installed libpulse-dev with apt-get. Still ld says "cannot find -lpulse". Any idea?
[01:19] <earthmeLon> Thanks edbian <3
[01:19] <kb3gtn> Gosha: might be called something weird like pulse2 or something..  looking..
[01:19] <edbian> </3  we're breaking up
[01:20] <Polah>  sean-desktop: That sounds more like a Windows question, as it sounds to be like you're just using your laptop to bridge your 360 to your network.
[01:20] <sean-desktop> yeah that is what i am doing Polah
[01:20] <sean-desktop> i deactivated my windows firewall but no dice
[01:20] <Gosha> kb3gtn: I tab twice at "libpulse" and no such things comes up. When I try to install it it simply says it's the newest version.
[01:21] <Polah> sean-desktop, ask in a Windows IRC channel then. We're for Ubuntu help and I don't think the problem lies with that
[01:21] <kb3gtn> Gosha: looks like it should be -lpulse  you see a /usr/lib/libpulse.so file?
[01:21] <Roasted_> Question - a while ago I heard that they were working on making Unity more dual screen friendly, so if your main monitor was on the right, you could at least put Unity on the right monitor (it always defaults to the left monitor now). It's been several weeks. Has there been a fix yet?
[01:21] <kamus> orale
[01:21] <sean-desktop> oh ok. my apologies
[01:21] <Gosha> kb3gtn: libpulse.so         libpulse.so.0       libpulse.so.0.12.3
[01:22] <Polah> Sean-Desktop: Although, I'll recommend making sure Media Centre is streaming. Or you can stream from your laptop with ushare.
[01:22] <kb3gtn> Gosha: so its there..   try a 'sudo ldconfig -a'
[01:22] <kb3gtn> to update shared libraries
[01:23] <mejo> hey
[01:23] <Jordan_U> sean-desktop: ##windows is the channel by the way.
[01:23] <mejo> is there any way to use the empathy/gwibber applet in unity (ubuntu 11.04) with pidgin?
[01:24] <Sytem-X> 84.197.194.103 1985
[01:24] <Gosha> kb3gtn: /sbin/ldconfig.real: 無効なオプション -- 'a' ... as in "There is no option 'a'"
[01:24] <kb3gtn> -v
[01:25] <kb3gtn> Gosha: ldconfig -v | grep libpulse
[01:25] <kb3gtn> see if it shows up..  bbl
[01:25] <Gosha> Yes it shows up
[01:25] <Gosha> Well, the so.* stuff
[01:26] <jenksed> exit
[01:30] <Roasted_> Question - a while ago I heard that they were working on making Unity more dual screen friendly, so if your main monitor was on the right, you could at least put Unity on the right monitor (it always defaults to the left monitor now). It's been several weeks. Has there been a fix yet?
[01:31] <gskellig> how do i get unity back?
[01:31] <Roasted_> back from what
[01:31] <gskellig> i had it on the livecd but after installing it went away
[01:31] <Roasted_> you have to select it at the login screen
[01:31] <Roasted_> ubuntu = unity, ubuntu classic = gnome 2.x
[01:31] <Omega> Roasted_: That's a focus for Ocelot (11.10)
[01:31] <gskellig> says something about not supported.
[01:32] <gskellig> plus i have mine set to login automatically =/
[01:32] <Roasted_> Omega, the developers specifically said they're working on a fix now, for 11.04.
[01:32] <earthmeLon> Wait, unity replaced gnome?  I thought unity was just something extra added to gnome
[01:32] <Roasted_> earthmeLon, unity is a shell for gnome. it sits on top of gnome.
[01:32] <edbian> earthmeLon: It is alternative to gnome3.  It does sit on gnome
[01:33] <Omega> edbian: It is an alternative to gnome-shell, not gnome3
[01:33] <Trfsrfr> where do all of my apps go when I minimize them? Im running 11.04.
[01:33] <edbian> Omega: Ahh
[01:33] <Omega> edbian: In 11.10 unity will run on gnome3
[01:34] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install adobe flash on chromium in ubuntu 11.04?
[01:35] <Gosha> kb3gtn: While I'm still wondering why it didn't work I managed to compile it by removing the linking to libpulse.
[01:35] <Trfsrfr> where do all of my apps go when I minimize them? Im running 11.04
[01:35] <linux_is_my_hero> i already downloaded the tar file
[01:35] <Trfsrfr> linux_is_my_hero, I have that same problem.
[01:35] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Heaven knows.  I use alt + tab
[01:35] <ivs> @linux_is_my_hero download from software manager --- it says for Firefox, but package also installs for Chromium
[01:35] <kb3gtn> Gosha: ok.. cool
[01:35] <linux_is_my_hero> word....thanks 8-)
[01:35] <kb3gtn> Gosha: unneeded depencency I guess.. :-)
[01:36] <ivs> @Trfsrfr for some programs, they will sit in "dock" on left --- but some other programs just hide themselves from the window manager (Alt+w and Alt+tab don't work either for those)
[01:36] <Trfsrfr> edbian, thank you!  Thats awesome.
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> trfsrfr: are you running 64 or 32 bit?
[01:36] <linux_is_my_hero> trfsrfr: im running 64 bit
[01:37] <Trfsrfr> linux_is_my_hero, 32 bit
[01:37] <edbian> Trfsrfr: sure
[01:37] <Gosha> kb3gtn: Yeah. I still find it peculiar ld didn't find it though.
[01:37] <Trfsrfr> ivs, thanks. edbian and the alt + tab is working fine.
[01:38] <edbian> Trfsrfr: sure
[01:38] <linux_is_my_hero> my computer says its already installed, but youtube thinks its not there
[01:38] <ericthegreat> I need major help you guys it been hours
[01:38] <edbian> ericthegreat: With what?
[01:38] <gskellig> okay
[01:38] <gskellig> logged out and back in with "ubuntu" not classic
[01:38] <gskellig> still no unity
[01:39] <Trfsrfr> edbian, were you helping me out the other day with audio issues?
[01:39] <ericthegreat> windows will not boot and ubuntu 50% of the time from grub
[01:39] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I've been around.
[01:39] <edbian> ericthegreat: log into ubuntu.  run this:  sudo update-grub   try windows again
[01:39] <edbian> ericthegreat: Windows 7?
[01:40] <ericthegreat> nothing ive tryed will bot windows
[01:40] <ericthegreat> yes
[01:40] <ericthegreat> tryed it
[01:40] <Omega> ericthegreat: what did you do that might have caused this?
[01:40] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I still dont have sound.
[01:41] <KM0201> ericthegreat: do you have os-prober installed?
[01:41] <ericthegreat> omega i installed 11.04
[01:41] <ericthegreat> no
[01:41] <edbian> ericthegreat: Can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and the output of sudo cat /etc/default/grub
[01:41] <ericthegreat> ok gonna be a min
[01:41] <ivs> ericthegreat: couple questions: (1) do you remember where you intalled grub? MBR? (2) what do your partitions look like?
[01:42] <KM0201> ericthegreat: if you don't have os-prober installed, then it's not surprising your efforts are falling fruitless... sudo apt-get install os-prober then after thats done sudo os-prober
[01:42] <KM0201> then sudo update-grub2
[01:43] <ericthegreat> ivs i cannot see my partitions currently says whole drive is unallocated
[01:43] <ericthegreat> not true tho
[01:43] <ericthegreat> brb
[01:44] <Jordan_U> ericthegreat: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l", "sudo fdisk -l", and "sudo os-prober".
[01:45] <Trfsrfr> Hey all, i've got no sound at all, havent in months. I get stuck at the beginning of the troubleshooting section.
[01:45] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What part of it specifically is confusing you?
[01:45] <ericthegreat> yes 1 min wife bothering me
[01:45] <edbian> ericthegreat: hahahaa
[01:45] <ivs> @Trfsrfr paltform?
[01:46] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I go through the steps, and it asks can I do such and such, and I cannot, but it doesnt tell me what to do if I cannot.
[01:46] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Be very specific.  And give me a link.  I wanna see if I can make sense of it
[01:46] <Trfsrfr> ivs, platform?  11.04
[01:46] <edbian> ivs: The floor  (hardwood)
[01:46] <sherwood650> what is a good irc addon like polars. been 3 years since i used
[01:46] <Trfsrfr> edbian, gimme a sec, i need to find the troubleshooting page again
[01:46] <ivs> Trfsrfr, I mean the type of computer/drivers/etc
[01:47] <edbian> Trfsrfr: k
[01:47] <edbian> Trfsrfr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ?
[01:48] <Trfsrfr> edbian, it asks if I was in the audio group, and I was. so I took myself out.
[01:48] <Trfsrfr> sudo aplay -1 doesnt work
[01:48] <edbian> Trfsrfr: so check that off and continue on with the tutorial
[01:49] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Do you get that visual output?  Do you get audio output?
[01:49] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I cant even get past aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav. nothing works
[01:49] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Is there any visual output?
[01:50] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I dont quite follow. Visual from where?
[01:50] <ericthegreat> hey you guys i cannot right click....
[01:50] <ericthegreat> new prob lol
[01:50] <edbian> Trfsrfr: In the terminal.  What do you see.  I get that you don't hear anything
[01:50] <Trfsrfr> edbian, oh, hold on, let me try again
[01:50] <ivs> ericthegreat: touchpad? try mouse settings
[01:50] <ericthegreat> bbl you guys sorry
[01:50] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What do you see in the term?
[01:50] <ericthegreat> wife going crazy
[01:50] <Trfsrfr> edbian, Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[01:51] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Ok, so that means the file played but we didn't hear anything.  Is that correct?  YOu don't hear anything?
[01:51] <Trfsrfr> correct
[01:51] <ratcheer> ericthegreat: You better go tend to her...
[01:51] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Can another user make sound?
[01:52] <p3rp> is hp dv6500 really not suitable for ubuntu 11.04?
[01:52] <Trfsrfr> edbian, there are no other users
[01:52] <edbian> Trfsrfr: create one.  use su to log in as them
[01:52] <edbian> It's not hard
[01:52] <ratcheer> Trfsrfr: Creat a new user, log on to it, and see if sound works
[01:52] <Trfsrfr> okay hold on a sec or two
[01:53] <dantheman73> Hey im trying to use my ipod touch with linux, im a first time user. i keep getting an error message that says the ipod "wont mount"...help??
[01:53] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Take ur time
[01:53] <dantheman73> (please)
[01:53] <Trfsrfr> edbian, where should I be doing this at? terminal? or GUI?
[01:54] <Omega> dantheman73: I can't help you, but you might try asking on the forums for help
[01:54] <Omega> !forums | dantheman73
[01:54] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Whatever.  Both ways work.
[01:54] <p3rp> ive been trying to do an install on it,via usb hard drive connection but im not having any success,the optical  drive is not functioning thats why im doing it thru usb
[01:55] <KM0201> p3rp: what kind of problem are you running into?
[01:55] <p3rp> i downloaded the universal pendrive,but i cant seem to boot it from usb,i configured the bios settings but im stuck
[01:56] <p3rp> i googled some info
[01:56] <arleslie> Is there any reason why Ubuntu chooses to use Firefox over Chrome even though Chrome is the default browser?
[01:56] <spectrum> hi
[01:58] <arleslie> !ipod | dantheman73
[01:58] <ivs> p3rp: for my macbook air, I needed to mirror the usb boot disk onto a harddrive partition and boot from the hd partition with the USB still connected...worked fine doing that (just don't overwrite hd partition during install or install won't finish)
[01:59] <Trfsrfr> edbian, nothing
[01:59] <edbian> Trfsrfr: So other users cannot make sound either.  You're sure?  What user did you create?
[02:00] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  I created my alter ego, pretty standard for me.
[02:00] <ivs> p3rp: doing this might help you boot into the drive if the BIOS isn't loading from USB. Just make sure you have a bootloader on the hd that will boot to the other partition. Also, your USB might not be a bootable USB on the hardware level.
[02:00] <ivs> p3rp: so it's either your USB or your BIOS
[02:00] <edbian> Trfsrfr: haha, ok.  So then the next step is to run aplay -l
[02:00] <kdibble> hello, ubuntu 10.10 x86_64 update fails with
[02:00] <kdibble> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[02:00] <kdibble> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-modules_1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[02:00] <kdibble> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.167 80]
[02:01] <Trfsrfr> edbian, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/615576/
[02:02] <arleslie> kdibble, open a terminal, and type in "ping security.ubuntu.com", do you get anything like "64 bytes from ----- (91.189.92.167)"?
[02:02] <edbian> Trfsrfr: alsa-mixer   Are any of the sliders down or muted (double m in the bottom0 ?
[02:03] <WXZ> how come the pidgin icon shows up differently as a launcher on the panel?
[02:03] <kdibble> arleslie, ping works ok
[02:03] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Sorry, alsamixer    no hyphen
[02:03] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Particularly PCM
[02:03] <arleslie> kdibble, it appears that those packages do not exist any more on security.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <kdibble> arleslie, the update manager is looking for them
[02:04] <Trfsrfr> edbian, alsamixer in terminal? its open, but i dont see any sliders anywhere
[02:04] <lapaga> !pam
[02:04] <edbian> Trfsrfr: alsamixer is sliders.  Press up and down arrows
[02:04] <edbian> !pamerr
[02:05] <spectrum> hi
[02:05] <kdibble> arleslie, ubottu, thanx
[02:05] <arleslie> Is there any reason why Ubuntu chooses to use Firefox over Chrome even though Chrome is the default browser?
[02:06] <losty> not sure arleslie
[02:06] <losty> but i managed to change it using preferences> preferred applications
[02:06] <spectrum> i'm using firefox at this time... why do u think its better than chrome
[02:06] <spectrum> ??
[02:06] <arleslie> losty, when uninstalling it, it changed over to Chrome and after reinstalling it, it switched back.
[02:07] <losty> ive been using chrome and prefer it over FF
[02:07] <arleslie> spectrum, I didn't say that, I just life the interface, now lets keep this on topic.
[02:07] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I have a song playing on rhythmbox, and got nothing. up or down arrows dont do anything
[02:07] <spectrum> aaaa ok...
[02:08] <edbian> Trfsrfr: You have a terminal with alsamixer in it?  Click that terminal and then use the arrows
[02:08] <spectrum> @losty is it better??
[02:08] <earthmeLon> edbian, I think this is more of what I was looking for earlier:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358702
[02:08] <losty> arleslie try changing through System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[02:08] <arleslie> losty,  thanks, that worked... it's ashame I didn't know about that
[02:08] <losty> cool
[02:08] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  nothing
[02:08] <edbian> earthmeLon: awesome!
[02:08] <losty> spectrum i like the simplicity
[02:09] <losty> and also, it feels less bloaty...ish
[02:09] <Trfsrfr> edbian, but under f6 i dont see my sound card
[02:09] <edbian> Trfsrfr: When you say 'nothing' does that mean no sound or the sliders in alsamixer don't move?
[02:09] <Trfsrfr> edbian, no sound, and I didnt even see a slider
[02:10] <edbian> Trfsrfr: http://www.vaitkus.com/piesiniai/alsamixer.jpg  does alsamixer look like this???
[02:10] <Trfsrfr> edbian, no
[02:10] <dingurt> Hello all... does anyone know of a program that will rip a cd to an ISO with a GUI? I hate that dd doesn't have a progress percentage.
[02:10] <spectrum> and what about konkeror?? when i'm using ff my laptop processor heats and fan runs faster
[02:11] <jamiewan> dingurt: de ve de is cool
[02:11] <dingurt> jamiewan:  thanks! I'll check it out
[02:11] <Jordan_U> dingurt: You can get a progress report from dd by sending it a SIGUSR1.
[02:11] <losty> not sure spectrum i havent tried it
[02:11] <dingurt> Jordan_U:  Yea, but I'm really, really lazy
[02:11] <edbian> Trfsrfr: find /lib/modules/`uname -f` | grep snd       Those are back ticks not quotes
[02:12] <ram_> Hi - I installed Ubuntu 11.04  on machine with nVidia MCP79 ethernet.   eth0 shows up on ifconfig.    But does not get IP address.  I also have wireless card on the same machine which gets ip address just fine.  Would appreciate some help.
[02:12] <Jordan_U> dingurt: Brasero can also do it, and comes with Ubuntu by default.
[02:13] <dingurt> Jordan_U:  I looked, but I can't seem to find a place to go from disc to iso...
[02:13] <dingurt> obviously it goes the other way just fine
[02:13] <dingurt> nevermind
[02:13] <dingurt> found it
[02:13] <Jordan_U> dingurt: Select Disk to Disk and in the next dialog there will be an option to output fo an iso.
[02:13] <dingurt>  /facepalm
[02:15] <Jordan_U> ram_: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo ifconfig && sudo dhclient eth0"?
[02:15] <jamiewan> ram_: whats the interface your on, wlan0 or eth0, find it then run sudo dhclient eth0 or wlan0 see if that helps
[02:15] <rikkimaru> I just installed skype on 11.04 and when I start it, skype eats up all the memory (4GB) on my system. Anyone know a fix to this?
[02:16] <ram_> Jordan_U and jamiewan:  Will do it in a second.
[02:16] <Trfsrfr> edbian, im sorry, i dont know what that is that you posted
[02:16] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Did it return stuff?  It's a command you need to run.  It's in the troublshooting guide
[02:17] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I tried to run it but it says 'no such file or directory'
[02:17] <KM0201> ram_: weird, works fine here... but i'm using 32bit
[02:17] <edbian> Trfsrfr: cd /lib/modules/
[02:17] <Trfsrfr> edbian, also, im having problems copying from this chat
[02:17] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Can youdo that?
[02:17] <Trfsrfr> yep
[02:17] <edbian> Trfsrfr: ls | grep snd
[02:18] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Does that show you stuff?
[02:18] <jamiewan> Trfsrfr: select the text, then right click, window, then save text. holds it in the paste buffer
[02:18] <Trfsrfr> edbian, im not having any luck here
[02:18] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Did that command show you stuff or not?
[02:18] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What do you mean 'not having any luck' ?
[02:19] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  I tried that command, but no such file or directory
[02:19] <kdbwnf> Hi. How can I enable edge scrolling for my laptop's touchpad?
[02:19] <edbian> Trfsrfr: run ls   does that work?
[02:19] <Trfsrfr> yes
[02:19] <ram_> Jordan_U and jamiewan and KM0201:   http://pastebin.com/52rMcP5g
[02:20] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What are you running then that is saying 'no folder or directory?'
[02:20] <Trfsrfr> edbian, ls works, but there is no directory named modules
[02:20] <edbian> Trfsrfr: ls | grep snd
[02:20] <zeroXmalice> where does 11.04 hide the advanced settings ?
[02:20] <KM0201> ram_: why are you running as root?
[02:20] <edbian> Trfsrfr: That does not call for anything named modules
[02:20] <ram_> KM0201:  I also switched to 32 bit hoping it works, but same issue.
[02:21] <Jordan_U> ram_: You didn't pastebin the output from "sudo dhclient eth0".
[02:21] <ram_> Oh, I was already on root.  Should I do as myself?
[02:21] <arleslie> Jordan_U, yes it's there, line 32-37
[02:21] <ram_> Jordan_U:  It is at the end of pastebin.
[02:21] <weedbringer> hi,i wanna install yum and got it with apt-get,but when i try use yum it doesnt work.. think missing (nonexisting) repositiries,anyone know how to fix or where i can find repositories thatll work with ubuntu 11.04 ?
[02:21] <Trfsrfr> edbian, when I run ls | grep snd, nothing happens. im right back at the command prompt
[02:21] <arleslie> ram_, is your wireless card on the same network as your ethernet is connected?
[02:22] <KM0201> weedbringer: why on earth would you want to use yum vs apt-get?
[02:22] <edbian> Trfsrfr: what if you type pwd  ?
[02:22] <jamiewan> weedbringer: use apt-get
[02:22] <Ddpbf> if somebody wants small, lightweight file manager based on pure Qt he could install it from my ppa
[02:22] <weedbringer> im used to yum.. wanna have it
[02:22] <Ddpbf> https://launchpad.net/~dalibor/+archive/ppa-ddpbf
[02:22] <KM0201> ..
[02:22] <kdbwnf> Hi. How can I enable edge scrolling for my laptop's touchpad?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ram_: arleslie: That looks like output from ifconfig, not from dhclient.
[02:22] <ram_> arleslie: Correct.   I am chatting on that client
[02:22] <weedbringer> so it seems possible as i got it with apt-get so it should work
[02:22] <Trfsrfr> edbian, says home, me, then back to command prompt
[02:23] <edbian> Trfsrfr: cd /lib/modules/    Does that work?
[02:23] <arleslie> Jordan_U, my bad...
[02:23] <ram_> Jordan_U: after dhclient eth0, there is nothing.  When I do ifconfig,  it shows that extra stuff now.
[02:23] <Jordan_U> weedbringer: Yum is not supported in Ubuntu. Why do you want to use yum?
[02:23] <Trfsrfr> edb that did something this time
[02:23] <edbian> Trfsrfr: yeah.  what does pwd say now?
[02:23] <Trfsrfr> edb im guessing im in that directory now
[02:23] <weedbringer> hm:\ i got it with apt-get tho..   uh,im just more used to it..wanna have it
[02:23] <edbian> Trfsrfr: yes
[02:23] <Trfsrfr> lib/modules
[02:24] <jamiewan> ram_: dhclient might take a minute sometimes
[02:24] <edbian> Trfsrfr: ls | grep snd
[02:24] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What does that say?
[02:24] <jamiewan> did you wait for a bit or not
[02:24] <arleslie> weedbringer, yum install <package> = apt-get install <package> ---- don't see much of a difference.
[02:24] <ram_> jamiewan:  Yes, it too sometime, but just returned to command prompt after that.  Then, I checked ifconfig to see if I got an ip.
[02:24] <zeroXmalice> I'm trying to enable my second monitor. NVIDIA X server settings says its failed to prase existing X config file. what gives.
[02:25] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  puts me right back to the command prompt again.
[02:25] <jamiewan> ram_: is ethernet cable plugged in to machine also
[02:25] <futureproof>  hi guys. My dad recently installed windows and messed up the grub bootloader. I was able to boot from a live cd and run 'grub-install' on the previous linux partition. I specified the root (hd0,5) and setup (hd0) , then rebooted. Upon reboot I am only presented with a grub shell (no menu)
[02:25] <Jordan_U> futureproof: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:26] <edbian> Trfsrfr: That means the modules for sound are missing.  We'll install them
[02:26] <Trfsrfr> okay
[02:26] <arleslie> zeroXmalice, is it running with sudo/as root?
[02:26] <futureproof> sorry for the text wall ( its lubuntu 9.10 last time I checked. It's my dad's machine)
[02:26] <zeroXmalice> •arleslie• yes
[02:26] <ram_> jamiewan: correct.  Wire plugged in.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> futureproof: Then it uses grub2, not grub legacy.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | futureproof
[02:26] <edbian> Trfsrfr: sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[02:26] <zeroXmalice> it says in console : device Section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[02:27] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Those are backticks.  They're shift + [button to the left of number 1]
[02:27] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Sorry, no shift.  Just the button next to the 1 button
[02:27] <ram_> jamiewan, Jordan_U, KM0202: When  I do dhclient eth0 as myself (not root)   it says SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied
[02:27] <edbian> Trfsrfr: backtick:  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4kAav8Ee7oY/TIE-9joFKpI/AAAAAAAAIp0/QDZ4Ml5CvxA/s320/backtick.jpeg
[02:27] <Jordan_U> futureproof: Also, 9.10 is EOL so you'll need to upgrade to 10.04.
[02:28] <jamiewan> ram_: yeah u need to be root
[02:28] <Jordan_U> ram_: "sudo dhclient eth0"
[02:28] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Confused?
[02:28] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/615586/
[02:28] <kn100> I am looking to move distros from ubuntu for a bit, but my home directory is encrypted and I didn't write down the key given to me on start up (I know stupid)
[02:28] <kn100> is there any way to make that key show up again
[02:28] <Trfsrfr> edbian, yes
[02:28] <nimbiotics> Hello evryone. Im trying to install an old game that I love (sokoban), but I dnt know how to compile it. I tried executing the Makefile (contents athttp://paste.ubuntu.com/615584/) in the terminal and I get no response, but I try to close the terminal It warns me about a process still running. Can someone please help? TIA!
[02:28] <kn100> my hard disk is decrypted, just want to know the key
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ram_: You don't need to log in as root to run commands as root. And Ubuntu highly discourages loggining in as root.
[02:29] <jamiewan> ram_: its giving u an ip on wlan0 but to me seems wierd cause i thought normally eth0 takes over if cable plugged in
[02:29] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Try this one:  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[02:29] <edbian> Trfsrfr: But you got the backticks right!
[02:29] <jamiewan> correct me if i;m wrong anyone
[02:29] <ram_> jamiewan, Jordan_U:   dhclient eth0 is running.    I agree, cable used to take over.  But, on the same machine, I have OSX and cable works fine there.
[02:30] <ram_> jamiewan, Jordan_U:   dhclient eth0   just returned.  Did not say anything at the prompt.
[02:30] <arleslie> nimbiotics, why not try Sokoban in the Software Center?
[02:30] <tomreyn> hi. is there a way to determine the memory your GPU has available?
[02:30] <jamiewan> ram_: disable wireless and try eth0??
[02:30] <TrentonAdams> Hi guys.  What's happening with the ubuntu servers?  http://dpaste.com/548964/
[02:31] <kn100> I am looking to move distros from ubuntu for a bit, but my home directory is encrypted and I didn't write down the key given to me on start up (I know stupid)
[02:31] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  the copy function for me sucks here on this chat.
[02:31] <kn100> my hard disk is decrypted, just want to know the key
[02:31] <ram_> I have tried it using Gnome's network icon (next to the clock),  it spins for sometime and says 'Wired network disconnected'  thats all.
[02:31] <edbian> Trfsrfr: :(  sorry to hear that
[02:31] <Trfsrfr> unable to locate package
[02:31] <Jordan_U> ram_: Looks like it has been made less verbose by default recently. Please pastebin the output of "sudo dhclient eth0 -v".
[02:31] <nimbiotics> arleslie: I did and it really sucks
[02:31] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What version of Ubuntu are you using??
[02:31] <Trfsrfr> edbian, Unable to locate package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.38-8-generic
[02:31] <Trfsrfr> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-restricted-modules-2.6.38-8-generic
[02:31] <Trfsrfr> 11.04
[02:32] <ram_> jamiewan and Jordan_U:  I have tried it using Gnome's network icon (next to the clock),  it spins for sometime and says 'Wired network disconnected'  thats all.  I am trying dhclient with -v.
[02:32] <arleslie> nimbiotics, ok, on your copy of the game, is it a windows game or do you have the source files?
[02:32] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: that seems bad
[02:32] <nimbiotics> arleslie: i have the source files
[02:32] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, thanks!
[02:32] <Trfsrfr> lol
[02:32] <arleslie> nimbiotics, try this "make | make install | install
[02:33] <kdbwnf> Hi. How can I enable edge scrolling for my laptop's touchpad?
[02:33] <ram_> jamiewan and Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/jxB7xhJd
[02:34] <spectrum> how do i activate the card reader in my ubuntu 10.04???
[02:34] <zeroXmalice> is there a recent compiz guide for 11.04?
[02:34] <nimbiotics> arleslie: I get eerror messages http://paste.ubuntu.com/615587/
[02:35] <arleslie> jamiewan, Jordan_U > ram_ : is it possible for the kernel to have a bad driver for it and not receive the correct response? (I know it happens on windows)
[02:35] <Trfsrfr> edbian 11.04. Now my tab key has quit working.
[02:36] <Trfsrfr> and their gone
[02:36] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: i hate to say it, but is reinstalling an option?
[02:36] <arleslie> nimbiotics, can you send me the file names? (ls) because I can't find the source ever being released, just wanna make sure your not confused.
[02:36] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, It definitely is an option, and youre not the first to mention it.
[02:36] <jamiewan> arleslie: i reckon its just his wireless, im on wireless at moment and it only returs for wlan0 as well for me
[02:36] <ram_> arleslie, jamiewan, Jordan_U:  This happened first time after I booted into OSX (dual boot machine) and then booted into Ubuntu.  Then I had to do CMOS reset to get it working in Ubuntu.  But, it has worked before I installed dual booting.
[02:36] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: at the very least, try booting into a live USB or CD environment to see if things work then :)
[02:37] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: will save you a bit of time, anyway
[02:37] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, Yes, I will. That is a great idea.
[02:37] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: use a USB key and you don't even need to make a coaster
[02:37] <cassidyjames> Anyone know if there's an easy way to tell recordmydesktop to not resize its recording window? :-/ It's causing me all kinds of pain for recording a very specifically-sized and positioned screencast.
[02:37] <arleslie> ram_, one thing you can try if you can't figure out anything else is to reboot your router. Just unplug it, wait about 15-30secs and plug it back in.
[02:38] <spectrum> how do i activate the card reader in my ubuntu 10.04???
[02:38]  * Scunizi_ just discovered remote desktop to a machine with dual monitors works lousy
[02:38] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, I will. Is that what you Canadiens call CD's? Coasters?
[02:39] <ram_> arleslie:   I have rebooted my router before.  I can give it a try again.  I will be off line for few minutes.
[02:39] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: nah, that's just what they become when you are done using them :)
[02:39] <Trfsrfr> lolcat, okay!
[02:39] <ram_> arleslie, jamiewan, Jordan_U:  Going to try rebooting router.
[02:39] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, Do you think I should install 10.10 instead?
[02:39] <nimbiotics> arleslie: the tree is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615591/
[02:40] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: might as well test 11.04 - you said that sound wasn't working on 10.10 either, right?
[02:40] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, no, I actually had sound in 10.10 until I updated it.
[02:41] <Scunizi_> Why doesn't LibreOffice's menu's end up on the top bar like "most" everything else?
[02:41] <spectrum> me voy a cortar los huevos acá nadie me ayuda!!!
[02:42] <nimbiotics> what the spanish channel for spectrum?
[02:42] <nimbiotics> por cieto, que con esa actitud, quiza nadie te ayude
[02:42] <steviewonder> hey
[02:43] <arleslie> !es | specious_
[02:43] <IdleOne> !es | spectrum
[02:43] <arleslie> !es | spectrum
[02:43] <arleslie> specious_, sorry wrong user
[02:43] <steviewonder> come te llamas?
[02:43] <Arrick> hey guys/gals, I need to know what the syntax is to change it so that a directory is able to be read by all, and executed by the group..... I know it is chown something, but I cant seem to get the syntax right.
[02:44] <steviewonder> h2ee56yh
[02:44] <Trfsrfr> Why is 32 bit recommended when I go to download Ubuntu? I have a 64 bit system.
[02:44] <steviewonder> it hates you
[02:44] <maco> Arrick: chown 774    =  owner & group all, other read
[02:44] <smw> Arrick, a dir can not be executed
[02:44] <maco> smw: well a dir has to be executable to cd into it
[02:44] <IdleOne> steviewonder: this is a support channel please keep the non helpful comments to yourself
[02:44] <m4v> steviewonder: be helpful please
[02:44] <smw> maco, I knew that...
[02:45] <steviewonder> m4v, #offtopic thanks
[02:45] <Scunizi_> Trfsrfr: mostly because most people don't know the difference and 32 bit works on all machines..
[02:45] <arleslie> nimbiotics, "apt-get install build-essentials g++" "g++ data -o <filename>
[02:45] <steviewonder> wtf
[02:45] <viviane> hi... newb question here.... how do you copy  7.5gb file?
[02:45] <steviewonder> you do control c
[02:45] <spectrum> lol
[02:45] <arleslie> nimbiotics, not too sure how that last command will work as g++ is normally used to do one file.
[02:46] <Scunizi_> viviane: from where to where?
[02:46] <Trfsrfr> Scunizi, so should I use the 64 bit version?
[02:46] <viviane> from my hard drive to a usb key
[02:46] <Scunizi_> Trfsrfr: sure.. I do.. no ill effects
[02:46] <steviewonder> spectrum, #offtopic thanks
[02:46] <Trfsrfr> Scunizi, Im about to re-install
[02:46] <spectrum> nimbiotics jaja ps si man jaja pero ya pregunte hace rataso y nadie me ayuda oie porsiaca sabes como activar el lector de tarjetas en una laptop?? hpdv7 2125es??
[02:47] <viviane> i try to copy the .iso file and always get a file too large error
[02:47] <Scunizi_> viviane: you could open the file manager and then hit F3 for a split screen.. manover to the directories you want in both sides and drag and drop the file
[02:47] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: if you have less than 4GB ram, there's little point to installing 64 bit.  even then only use 64bit if you know you need to
[02:47] <spectrum> ubottu si man graxx...
[02:47] <Scunizi_> viviane: but most usb keys are fat32 or 16 and they don't like files that size.. you might have to reformat it to ext3
[02:47] <arleslie> !ask | spectrum
[02:47] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: and you only NEED to if you expect individual programs to use more than 3gb RAM each :)
[02:48] <spectrum> steviewoncer soy carlos
[02:48] <m4v> spectrum: el canal en español es #ubuntu-es, aquí solo en inglés.
[02:48] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, okay. good enough for me. Thanks. im gonna re-install 10.04.
[02:49] <aaron> hello
[02:49] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: 11.04? :)
[02:49] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, I never had problems until 11.04.
[02:49] <spectrum> m4v i know it... i was just answering...
[02:50] <viviane> if the usb key is formatted ms-dos it will not allow anything larger than 4gb?
[02:50] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: ahh, in that case 10,04 or 10.10 sounds great :)
[02:50] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: you may want to test 11.04 in a live environment before yu decide
[02:50] <nimbiotics> spectrum: mira mi mensaje privado
[02:50] <rchavik> i haven't received any updates for ubuntu 11.04 since my upgrade. is this correct? (in 10.04 i see updates nearly daily)
[02:50] <nimbiotics> arleslie: what can I do in this case?
[02:51] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, wait...sorry, my memory is fading...I never had problems until I upgraded to the latest version...whatever it is
[02:51] <futureproof> hi guys, I recently had to reinstall grub2 because of windows MBR. I ran the grub-install command on the old mounted linux partition and it seemed to succeed. When I reboot, I get a quick flash of 'loading GRUB...' then the screen goes black
[02:52] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: that's 11.04
[02:52] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: so you want 10.10, probably... though i do rememer you said sound didn't work on that either
[02:53] <Trfsrfr> hypatia,  no, I had sound in 10.10 after I changed something....somewhere...
[02:54] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, you know what? I'm really bad at remembering these numbers. I had sound at one point.
[02:54] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: did you then upgrade to 11.04?
[02:54] <Trfsrfr> hypatia,  yes
[02:54] <bkfitz> Anyone here using 11.04???
[02:55] <Trfsrfr> and havent had sound since.
[02:55] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: i bet it got messed up between what you changed, and the upgrade.  so first order of business, test 11.04 live :)
[02:55] <Gorlak> i am
[02:55] <bkfitz> You using unity or 'classic'?
[02:55] <zeroXmalice> how do you move the desktop ui to another screen
[02:55] <Gorlak> classic
[02:55] <Gorlak> i dont really like unity
[02:55] <bkfitz> if you are using 'classic' have you tried any screenlets
[02:55] <bkfitz> or can you try one for me... i think i've discovered a bug - see if you can add 'clearcalendar'
[02:56] <Trfsrfr> hypatia,  Okay, let me download it from my laptop onto a stick. Then i will let you know what happens.
[02:56] <Gorlak> not yet. i have it installed on an upgrade laptop, i want to do a fresh install later before i start making it pretty
[02:56] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: good good :)
[02:56] <earthmeLon> My HDD is destroyed.  I have *ONE* thumb drive.  I am currently on Ubuntu booted on said thumb drive.  Is there any way for me to install ubuntu onto THIS thumb drive?
[02:56] <bkfitz> nothing bad happens, it just wont add to the desktop
[02:56] <Gorlak> ok
[02:56] <Gorlak> let me check it
[02:56] <bkfitz> other screenlets will add fine, that one won't
[02:56] <hypatia> earthmeLon: i suspect there is, but that it would be painful
[02:57] <hypatia> earthmeLon: can you just make your live session persistent?
[02:57] <Gorlak> give me a sec bk to install and check it out
[02:57] <bkfitz> no prob thx
[02:57] <earthmeLon> hypatia, pretty sure that's what I want
[02:57] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Yes.
[02:57] <ram_> arleslie,  Jordan_U, jamiewan:  Restarting the router did not help.  I rebooted into my osx just to check if eth0 works.  It works there.  In my ubuntu 11.04,  eth0 shows up fine but no IP address.  dhclient eth0  says 'No DHCPOFFERS  received'.
[02:57] <earthmeLon> I'd rather not use squashfs, though Jordan_U hypatia
[02:58] <bkfitz> Anyone else think Ubuntu may have 'jumped the shark' with this change to Unity?>
[02:58] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: It would be a bit dangerous though as you'd risk making the drive unbootable if something goes wrong.
[02:58] <hypatia> earthmeLon: if you're trying to run off a single USB stick til you get a new hdd, you probably shouldn't be too picky :)
[02:58] <Jordan_U> !ot | bkfitz
[02:58] <hypatia> earthmeLon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[02:58] <bkfitz> No prob.
[02:58] <shackletom> I have an issue with umask, i set my umask to 002 with the expectation that files I create will have rwxrwxr-- but instead i get rw-rw-r--
[02:59] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: I am talking about a real install, assuming you have enough space for one.
[02:59] <earthmeLon> That's why I just said it was my preference, not a must hypatia :D
[02:59] <Trfsrfr> hypatia, thanks for your help?
[02:59] <Trfsrfr> sorry, help!
[02:59] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I do have the space.  :D
[02:59] <hypatia> Trfsrfr: you're welcome, good luck!
[02:59] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, You understand that the target USB is the LiveCD-USB, right?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: What will you do if something goes wrong and this USB drive becomes unbootable?
[02:59] <Polah> shackletom, rwxrwxr-- would be 774
[03:00] <Gorlak> bkfitz: nope doesnt work for me either
[03:00] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Yes.
[03:00] <Gorlak> bkfitz: other widgets work but not that one
[03:00] <bkfitz> Gorlak: thx... now I just have to figure out how to submit a bug
[03:00] <zeroXmalice> does unity really not allow windows on a second monitor?
[03:00] <bkfitz> Gorlak: what a pain... I loved that screenlet :)
[03:00] <Gorlak> bkfitz: i think you have to have a launchpad account to start with
[03:00] <Polah> shacketom: read=4, write=2, execute=1. And it's in the order OGP (Owner, Group, Public). You just add up the values you want for each user type to have. 0 is no permissions.
[03:00] <PL4Y3R> anyone know how to install flash on and older ubuntu 4.10 i know it's old but i just got my first pc runing again so i'm trying to keep it
[03:00] <Gorlak> yea,
[03:01] <bkfitz> Gorlak: ugh... anyone want to submit it for me :)
[03:01] <arleslie> zeroXmalice, you must use twinview and the monitors but be the same resolution.
[03:01] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I have the capability of putting another livecd on it
[03:01] <zeroXmalice> •arleslie• they are and i am
[03:01] <Gorlak> bkfitz i dont have an account either or i would :)
[03:01] <Gorlak> bkfitz you sure there isnt already a bug report submited, it seems like a pretty obvious bug
[03:01] <arleslie> zeroXmalice, I have no issues with that setup on a dual-monitor setup... I just have issues when I throw my third monitor in there
[03:01] <rww> PL4Y3R: 4.10, unsurprisingly, isn't supported here any more.
[03:02] <bkfitz> Gorlak: done a bit of googling and havent found anything, but....
[03:02] <zeroXmalice> how do i enable it arleslie
[03:02] <Gorlak> bkfitz i know how that goes
[03:02] <Polah> PL4Y3R: Regardless of whether you want to keep it, updating would be EXTREMELY well recommended. It's 5-6 years behind on hardware, software and most importantly security updates.
[03:02] <bkfitz> Gorlak: thx for checking... Anyone else here have the ability to submit bugs?
[03:02] <eiriksvin>  hello, is there a program for ubuntu that will minimize my memory usage while I'm playing games or doing something I tend to use alot of memory for?
[03:02] <PL4Y3R> i'm not worried bout it i have 3 pc's anyway
[03:03] <Polah> bkfitz: Why can't you do it yourself.
[03:03] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Great. Can you copy the Ubuntu iso to the USB drive (as a file, not extracting it)?
[03:03] <arleslie> ram_, the best I can tell you now is try the forums.
[03:04] <ram_> arleslie: which one ?  please suggest.
[03:04] <bkfitz> Polah: I am :)
[03:04] <cassidyjames> eiriksvin: I haven't heard of one, but that'd be pretty cool.
[03:04] <arleslie> !forums | ram_
[03:04] <FORTHELULZ> goodbye irc
[03:04] <Polah> bkfitz: So why would one of us need to do it for you?
[03:04] <Flannel> PL4Y3R: If you want to go with ancient versions, 5.04 and 5.10 are much better experiences than 4.10.  But I'll reiterate, please don't ask for support for it here.
[03:04] <earthmeLon> It would require me to unplug the usbdrive/reboot, but absolutely.   Let me do that Jordan_U
[03:04] <ram_> arleslie, ubottu: thanks!
[03:04] <PL4Y3R> plus sellin one of my pc need to pay bills thanks anyways
[03:05] <shackletom> that's chmod Polah
[03:05] <bkfitz> Polah: didn't know a 'launchpad' account was super easy to create... thought maybe you had to be 'a verifiable committer' or something first... I'm doing it now...
[03:05] <eiriksvin> PL4Y3R, I updated from Ubuntu 6.04 all they way up to 10.10, that was a great thing, now I'm playing WoW on a PC that is a dino!!
[03:05] <Jordan_U> PL4Y3R: Please don't sell someone a computer with Ubuntu 4.10 on it.
[03:05] <PL4Y3R> no it's a imac g5 now this one
[03:06] <PL4Y3R> not this one*
[03:06] <Polah> bkfitz: I wouldn't imagine it you'd need to be a verifiable committer or whatever. It'd make finding out about bugs a lot harder.
[03:06] <arleslie> !xinerama | zeroXmalice
[03:06] <Polah> Shackletom: Sorry, I saw permissions and assumed you were using chmod. What permissions are you attempting to achieve?
[03:06] <zeroXmalice> k
[03:07] <shackletom> I want the user account I am associated with, whenever it writes files, to have the default permissions of rwxr-xr--
[03:07] <AdamHovorka> Hello, I am new to Ubuntu, so please forgive me if I missed something. I just downloaded the .iso file and burned it, then tried to boot and install it, and it went straight (well, slowly; it's a CD) to what looked like a login screen. The only option visible was other, so I clicked on it and it brought me to a field that said "Username:" so I typed in the username that I wanted and then the password in the password field, but it
[03:08] <Jordan_U> AdamHovorka: You were not supposed to be presented with a login screen. The fact that you were means that something went wrong.
[03:08] <margi> hi there, just installed ubuntu 10.10 for a friend on her Eeepc 1000HE, everything seems to work except for the wireless... i tried going to 'hardware
[03:08] <od3n> anyone know if there is a open verison of PGP out there that works with linux that I could use to access PGP WDE
[03:08] <Scunizi_> shackletom: that's 755.. 3 sets of 3.. 1+2+4=7 in the first triplet.. 1+0+4 in the second and third
[03:08] <margi> hi there, just installed ubuntu 10.10 for a friend on her Eeepc 1000HE, everything seems to work except for the wireless... i tried going to 'hardware drivers' several times to see if it would pick it up and install drivers but it won't... any ideas?
[03:09] <shackletom> that's great for chmodding files that already exist
[03:09] <shackletom> I'm talking about new files that get written into a directory
[03:09] <Dulak> shackletom: add 'umask 023' in ~/.bashrc and relog
[03:09] <shackletom> alright
[03:09] <shackletom> i'll try that Dulak
[03:11] <Ben64> why is jbd2 writing so much so often and locking my system up with iowait
[03:11] <zeroXmalice> My monitors EDID isn't getting picked up. I set the horzsync/vertrefresh manually, but white text like on a menu bar results in white flashing pixels near the text.
[03:11] <bkfitz> this is kinda a pain...
[03:11] <Ben64> 5770 be/3 root          0.00 B   1778.05 M  ?unavailable?  [jbd2/sdc2-8]
[03:12] <Polah> Dulak: Scunizi_ He said rwxr-xr--, that'd be 754 not 755
[03:12] <Dulak> Polah: umask is a mask 023
[03:12] <AdamHovorka> Jordan_U, thanks for the response. I am trying to install it on an old "Micron ClientPro". The very fact that it even booted with the CD surprised me. I have no idea what to even look for to fix it. Any ideas?
[03:12] <Polah> Dulak: Nevermind, yours would be 754
[03:12] <Scunizi_> shackletom: here's a good writeup on umask http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
[03:12] <Dulak> 777 - 023 = 754
[03:13] <jonesst1> anybody added vmtools to a ubuntu 11.04 cleint?
[03:13] <jonesst1> client
[03:13] <Scunizi_> jonesst1: is this for virtualbox?
[03:13] <Polah> Dulak: Yeah, I had just seen above that Scunizi had said 755 instead of 754. Nevermind, 023 is right.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> AdamHovorka: How much RAM does it have?
[03:13] <jonesst1> vmware esx
[03:14] <Scunizi_> jonesst1: sorry I haven't played with vmware in several years.. if it's anything like vbox you have to do it via cli
[03:14] <shackletom> that works great for directories Scunizi , thats not my problem. I just want files to have the default of x when I create them in certain directories
[03:14] <jonesst1> im at cli but it cant find the kernel
[03:14] <Scunizi_> shackletom: the link I gave explains umask and creating defaut permissions for a user.. check it out
[03:15] <shackletom> Yes, and that works for directories'
[03:15] <shackletom> not for files
[03:15] <shackletom> it wont let me get x permissions for files
[03:15] <shackletom> just directories
[03:15] <shackletom> it even says so in the example
[03:15] <arleslie> jonesst1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[03:15] <Dulak> shackletom: umask is on the environment, not the directory, you can't apply it per directory afaik
[03:16] <Scunizi_> shackletom: according to the first paragraph it's for both
[03:16] <AdamHovorka> Jordan_U: The best number that I can come up with at this point is 256 KB, which sounds about right.
[03:16] <jonesst1> i think it just found it via google
[03:16] <jonesst1> thanks arleslie
[03:16] <shackletom> this is what the article says "For directories, the base permissions are (rwxrwxrwx) 0777 and for files they are 0666 (rw-rw-rw)."
[03:16] <Jordan_U> AdamHovorka: 256 MB sounds a lot more reasonable ;)
[03:16] <shackletom> i dont want 0666 for files
[03:16] <shackletom> i want 0777 for files
[03:16] <shackletom> umask doesnt seem to let me do this if im using it right
[03:17] <Scunizi_> shackletom: try the first line "When user create a file or directory under Linux or UNIX, she create it with a default set of permissions."
[03:17] <AdamHovorka> Jordan_U: Yes, that is true.
[03:17] <jonesst1> na, tahst not it either
[03:17] <shackletom> yes, and umask doesn't let me have x-permission on a file no matter what combination of numbers I use
[03:17] <shackletom> Thats the problem
[03:17] <shackletom> umask 000 does not give me rwxrwxrwx on files
[03:17] <shackletom> only on directories
[03:18] <Jordan_U> AdamHovorka: I don't think that the liveCD installer will work properly with that little RAM. You can try using the alternate install CD, and you might also be interested in LUbuntu as it's much lighter.
[03:19] <histo> shackletom: 777 would give you rwxrwxrwx
[03:19] <AdamHovorka> I just checked again, and it says "SYSTEM MEMORY   192 MB", though I can't be sure because I haven't had a chance to open it up yet. ;)
[03:19] <bkfitz> Bug submitted: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/791015 :)
[03:19] <Polah> Jordan_U: AdamHovorka: The minimum recommended amount of RAM for Ubuntu is either ~50 or ~110MB, I don't remember which exactly.
[03:19] <Polah> histo: He's trying to use umask, not chmod.
[03:20] <histo> Polah: oh
[03:20] <AdamHovorka> I can't even find where it says 256 KB anymore. Another setup page? ;)
[03:21] <arleslie> !requirements | Jordan_U & AdamHovorka
[03:21] <MrCartel> Anyone here use makemkv here?
[03:22] <AdamHovorka> ubottu: Yes, I already checked there. Now it's saying 192 MB.
[03:23] <histo> shackletom: what are the directories getting set at?
[03:24] <shackletom> ~/.wine histo
[03:24] <histo> shackletom: and umask can't override the permissions specified by the program that creates the file or directory
[03:25] <histo> shackletom: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:25] <mystery> I tryed to install xubuntu and the installer crashed lol
[03:25] <shackletom> whenever a file or directory is created in ~/.wine i want that file to have rwxrw-r-- by default
[03:26] <vedster> Hi, can anyone help me with booting into Ubuntu? After fsck the system no longer boots.
[03:28] <histo> shackletom: if you are having issues with the values you can umask u=rwx,g=rx,o=r   and set it that way
[03:28] <shackletom> alright, i'll try that
[03:28] <vedster> Does anybody have a solution for not booting after fsck?
[03:29] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I've got the iso on the root of the thumb drive whenever you're ready :D
[03:29] <shackletom> still the same problem,  u=rwx only works for directories, i get rw for files
[03:29] <Polah> histo: Wouldn't that be the same as 023, which was already suggested?
[03:29] <histo> Polah: I haven't been paying attention to what was already suggested
[03:30] <madprops> http://www.gsick.com/ubuntu/
[03:30] <vedster> During boot, it freezes after "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility [OK]"
[03:30] <Polah> Shackletom: Perhaps it's a built in security feature that every file can't be saved as executable? Or a function to make life a bit easier, i.e. I wouldn't want a box popping up every time I try to open a standard text file asking if I want to run it, run it in a terminal or just display it.
[03:32] <yg> hi
[03:33] <jonesst1> this is annoying not one decent doc
[03:33] <histo> Polah: no he should be able to do that unless the .wine is in a fat mount or something goofy
[03:34] <digitalstimulus> does anyone know how to make nautilus "forget" login credentials for samba share mounts?
[03:34] <histo> Polah: but he cant' set umask for a directory only for a process
[03:35] <Dman674> Hello i have Linux dual booted with vista using GRUB how do i take Grub out without using windows disk? im on my ubuntu 10.04 live cd right now
[03:35] <Jordan_U> madprops: What is that a link to and why did you post it?
[03:35] <histo> shackletom: let me check something real quick
[03:35] <earthmeLon> Dman674, do you want to keep it as a dual boot system?
[03:36] <Jordan_U> Dman674: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mbr; sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[03:36] <Dman674> no i want to take out grub i want it to use the origional boot to windows
[03:36] <Jordan_U> Dman674: That is assuming that the disk in question is /dev/sda.
[03:36] <earthmeLon> wb Jordan_U :D
[03:37] <Dman674> windows is on sda 1
[03:37] <vedster> Ubuntu fails to boot; I am given multiple [FAIL] and the rest are [ok] during the boot process. The fails cinclude restore sound card's mixer's states, acpi/power.sh, etc.
[03:37] <Dman674> ubuntu cannot boot
[03:37] <yg> hi
[03:37] <Dman674> it says grub recovery or something when i reboot
[03:37] <histo> shackletom: what version of wine are you using?
[03:37] <crazy5> use CD
[03:37] <Dman674> grub save?
[03:38] <earthmeLon> Hey yg, you got a question today?
[03:38] <Dman674> using the cd is ot a choise
[03:38] <yg> im just trying to see how this works
[03:38] <shackletom> 1.9.3
[03:39] <earthmeLon> See how what works, yg ?
[03:39] <slimjimflim> hi, i wanted to install ia32-lib but apt-cache search returns lsb-core among others.  should i just install that instead?
[03:39] <histo> shackletom: double check that version number doesn't see right
[03:39] <slimjimflim> i'm in 10.04
[03:39] <histo> shackletom: I see a bug report in an old version that it wasn't honoring umask
[03:39] <shackletom> 1.2.2
[03:39] <Dman674> i did  sudo apt-get install mbr
[03:40] <Dman674> in terminal what do i do now?
[03:40] <histo> shackletom: but their bug reporting is a mess so it's hard to tell
[03:40] <vedster> Is there a specefic channel I should be joining for help with Ubuntu boot?
[03:40] <histo> shackletom: how are you testing wether it's working?
[03:40] <Arrick> anyone here use vsftpd that can tell me how to change the path that it opens to? currently it jails the user to the /home/user directory, but I want it to only open in the /var/www directory.
[03:40] <Arrick> i looked in the /etc/vsftpd.conf file and it has no path mentioned.
[03:40] <shackletom> i set the umask, and then i type touch 0 or touch 1 or however many times i try to test what a files permissions end up being
[03:41] <biggz> hey guys need some assistance
[03:41] <Logan_> !ask | biggz
[03:41] <histo> shackletom: well you would set it then wine notepad or something and see
[03:42] <metbsd> i've installed xubuntu, is it possible to remove xfce completely, and install gnome, to make it ubuntu?
[03:42] <Trfsrfr> I sooooo love being a noob, in anything.
[03:43] <digitalstimulus> metbsd, you can install the metapackage ubuntu-desktop for the full gnome ubuntu setup
[03:43] <Dulak> metbsd: yes install the ubuntu-desktop package
[03:43] <Logan_> !purgnome | metbsd
[03:43] <Logan_> !puregnome | metbsd
[03:43] <metbsd> do i have xubuntu-desktop package to remove?
[03:43] <sabgenton> how do you defrag ext4
[03:43] <Logan_> metbsd: yes
[03:44] <digitalstimulus> xubuntu-desktop is the metapackage that comes with xubuntu by default
[03:44] <Logan_> !defrag | sabgenton
[03:44] <sabgenton> spose to be possible now
[03:44] <Dulak> metbsd: it's a meta-package, won't affect anything if you remove it
[03:44] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Can you mount the iso and pastebin its /boot/grub/loopback.cfg ?
[03:44] <biggz> i have an hp g50 laptop that i installed 11.04 on recently but i have an issue on start up. when i select ubuntu from the boot menu (dual boot with windows 7) it jus does not load. i have to turn it off and back on, boot in recovery mode, select boot normally. when it drops to the shell i log in and run the restart command and then ubuntu loads properly
[03:44] <sabgenton> Logan_:  yeah yeah but how do you defrag it
[03:44] <sabgenton> it's sposed to be a feature in ext4 now
[03:44] <celthunder> sabgenton: e2fsprogs
[03:45] <sabgenton> k
[03:45] <psusi> celthunder, sabgenton still in development, not yet released.
[03:46] <sabgenton> psusi: ah
[03:46] <scottmaccal> biggz: so you are able to get into the GUI from rescue mode
[03:46] <sabgenton> psusi: info?
[03:46] <psusi> sabgenton, eh?
[03:46] <digitalstimulus> sabgenton, there is no *need* to defrag.  there are third party programs that can, but fragmentation is not a problem unless you keep your hard drives mostly full all the time
[03:46] <sabgenton> psusi: road map etc
[03:46] <celthunder> biggz: what do you mean does not load
[03:47] <Ahmuck-Sr> in 11.04 when one user logs out, there is no sound for the other user that logs in.  bug?
[03:47] <psusi> sabgenton, it's being worked on, but last I saw, it is not built and installed by default... maybe in 11.10
[03:47] <biggz> @scottmaccal i get to gui after a do a restart from recovery mode
[03:47] <sabgenton> digitalstimulus: linux addmins have shown me problems ,  compared to ntfs etc takes ages but can still happen
[03:48] <psusi> sabgenton, but yea, it is generally not necessary
[03:48] <digitalstimulus> sabgenton, did they forget to purge some log files for years? heh
[03:48] <sabgenton> psusi: so when released it will be a flag on e2fsprogs?
[03:49] <biggz> @celthunder the cursor would just blink but the machine freezes.. while other times it get freezes with the purplish background
[03:49] <sabgenton> heh
[03:49] <psusi> sabgenton, it will be a utility in e2fsprogs called e4defrag... though there is the ancient e2defrag that was abandoned years ago... I'm keeping it alive at launchpad.net/e2defrag, but it doesn't work on a mounted fs
[03:49] <scottmaccal> biggz: I think you are having a video card issue
[03:50] <psusi> sabgenton, though it does do a perfect job packing all files in one pass and is fairly quick about it
[03:50] <sabgenton> thx e4defrag goes well in google
[03:50] <biggz> after the attempt to boot normally fails and i restart to boot in recovery mode i get an end trace message
[03:50] <scottmaccal> biggz: once you are in the GUI from the recovery mode investigate in installing a proprietary video driver
[03:51] <sabgenton> psusi: reall doe e2defrag work well?
[03:51] <scottmaccal> biggz: I had similar problem with a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio
[03:52] <hdon> hi all :) where do i install CA public keys for individual users?
[03:52] <sabgenton> sabgenton: stable or highley experemental?
[03:52] <biggz> here is the vid card that i have 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[03:52] <biggz> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[03:52] <celthunder> hdon: uhm generally those are global...
[03:52] <hdon> celthunder, yeah. i know.
[03:52] <Roasted_> Question - a while ago I heard that they were working on making Unity more dual screen friendly, so if your main monitor was on the right, you could at least put Unity on the right monitor (it always defaults to the left monitor now). It's been several weeks. Has there been a fix yet?
[03:52] <psusi> sabgenton, as far as I know... of course, if it does mess up, it is likely to destroy the whole fs... but yea, it does a good job... you can even specify priorities for which files should be packed closer to the start of the disk... I've been experimenting with using that to pack the files ureadahead reads during boot to speed it up
[03:53] <celthunder> hdon: for a specific application or ?
[03:53] <hdon> celthunder, anyhow, putting it in /etc/ssl/certs just for kicks didn't seem to satisfy curl :(
[03:53] <hdon> celthunder, no just messing around and don't want to change the PKI for eveyrone else on the system
[03:53] <scottmaccal> biggz: I am not sure about that particular video card but I know my nvidia required a fix
[03:54] <scottmaccal> biggz: once you are in GUI from recovery mode do an: sudo apt-get update followed by an: sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:54] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I crashed.  I have mounted the iso, but I dont remember what file you needed information from.
[03:55] <scottmaccal> biggz: that is from the terminal
[03:55] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: /boot/grub/loopback.cfg
[03:55] <biggz> i have no proprietary drivers in use
[03:55] <sabgenton> psusi: cool thx :)
[03:55] <biggz> yes i ran lspci
[03:55] <scottmaccal> biggz: you may require one
[03:56] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/1Qm5Z91M
[03:56] <Xcytre> I'd like to add a wireless card in a desktop to use with kismet.  Any recommendations?
[03:57] <earthmeLon> Prism/Atheros cards, Xcytre :D  This is probably not the best channel for that, though
[03:57] <celthunder> Xcytre: anything that uses Ath9k should be good...
[03:57] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: What is the exact path to the Ubuntu iso?
[03:58] <Xcytre> Ok, thanks...
[03:58] <yg> Hi room can you tell me what colour this is on your screen please
[03:58] <biggz> so should i visit intel's site for a drive for my card then?
[03:58] <mreynolds> Hey all, my google-fu is failing me.  I recently upgraded my 10.04 LTS and I'm getting what appear to be a bunch of udev errors on boot.  Is there a known issue or fix for this?
[03:58] <earthmeLon> The ISO is found at /media/cdrom/un10556.iso  Jordan_U
[03:58] <digitalstimulus> yg, black
[03:58] <digitalstimulus> yg, black on white, like everyone else :)
[03:58] <yg> digitalstimulus thanks
[03:58] <yg> i was trying to change it
[03:59] <yg> is it possible
[03:59] <digitalstimulus> yg, I'm using xchat, and it probably disables colors by default, I don't know
[03:59] <earthmeLon> Try #xchat yg
[03:59] <yg> thanks
[03:59] <biggz> scottmaccal: i have installed all available updates to date and still have the problem
[04:00] <bencc> how much RAM ubuntu desktop needs to perform ok?
[04:00] <bencc> I want to know how much I need to give to a vbox guest
[04:00] <earthmeLon> bencc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[04:00] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: How much RAM do you have?
[04:00] <scottmaccal> biggz: I think a good starting point would be to Google the video card you have and the Ubuntu version and see what you turn up
[04:00] <bencc> swap used is 349MB. is it ok?
[04:01] <jonesst1> bencc usually 1 gig
[04:01]  * psusi decides to build the experimental e4defrag and take it for a test drive...
[04:01] <jonesst1> bencc when you use top is the swap number always changing?
[04:01] <bencc> jonesst1: 349MB is because I have only 512MB?
[04:01] <earthmeLon> Not exactly sure, Jordan_U.  It's either 6 or 8 GB.  Plenty enough to fill with some more temp data :D
[04:01] <sean-desktop> hey anyone here? i need a lil help.  i kinda screwed something up :(
[04:02] <bencc> jonesst1: no. it's steady
[04:02] <wimpog> how can I use Ubuntu Live CD to check computer's RAM for problems? I have the latest Ubuntu on the CD?
[04:02] <jonesst1> bencc so tahst suggests u are ok
[04:02] <scottmaccal> biggz: You could also Google the laptop you have and Ubuntu and see if others have had the same issue and hopefully someone has a solution
[04:02] <biggz> ok gonna check that out and get back in a bit
[04:02] <bencc> jonesst1: isn't 512MB swap too high?
[04:03] <earthmeLon> wimpog, I think the easiest solution is using unetbootin.  Pretty sure that it gives you a memtest option and another option to boot into livecd
[04:03] <scottmaccal> wimpog: when you boot the CD look for the check RAM option
[04:03] <biggz> am sure getting that trace error i got earlier would shed some light... how can i get it?
[04:03] <jonesst1> bencc how much ram does the machine have? how much swap?
[04:03] <wimpog> earthmeLon: the live cd doesn't seem to have memtest. what is unetbootin?
[04:03] <sean-desktop> i was changing some settings on my ethernet card, and tried to set it back by setting my /etc/network/interfaces file back to normal.  but now i cant seem to get online.  i am using the computers wireless to get online with my xbox via ethernet.  the wlan woeks but not the ethernet.  gives me an ip of 10.42..43.1
[04:03] <bencc>  jonesst1: 512MB RAM, 512MB swap
[04:04] <bencc>  jonesst1: 100MB RAM free, 160MB swap free
[04:04] <kay_> hi
[04:04] <jonesst1> bencc: it depends on how hard u use it.....
[04:04] <digitalstimulus> bencc, I'm running 17494 swap `free -m`
[04:04] <sean-desktop> anyone able to help me?
[04:04] <earthmeLon> unetbootin is a program that puts live cd's onto cds and usb drives.  the menu it gives is slightly different than the standard burning an iso to a cd and gives a memtest option.  You could also try finding a memtest livecd.
[04:04] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Create a file /media/cdrom/boot/grub/grub.cfg with this for the contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/615607/
[04:04] <digitalstimulus> like 17.5 GB swap, heh
[04:04] <earthmeLon> !ask | sean-desktop
[04:05] <bencc>  jonesst1: I use it for gedit with several tabs, several terminals, nginx, mongodb
[04:05] <scottmaccal> biggz: trace error? No that sounds like a kernel problem. I would be interested if you had success in install another Linux distro, not that I am encouraging you to move away from Ubunutu  ;-)
[04:05] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Sorry, make that with this for contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/615608/
[04:05] <bencc>  jonesst1: when I open a new terminal or doc I hear the disk working
[04:05] <jonesst1> bencc i have a debian samba and email serer they run fine on 512....
[04:05] <jonesst1> benncc then maybe you need more ram
[04:05] <bencc>  jonesst1: ok. thanks
[04:06] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, as ROOT I get this error:  touch: cannot touch `/media/cdrom/boot/grub/grub.cfg': Read-only file system
[04:06] <The_Explorer> So i restored alot of my files, after my... error. Having said that, does anyone know a program that will sort files?
[04:06] <biggz> i have been running ubuntu on this laptop since 9.10
[04:07] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: That's expected. "sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/cdrom/"
[04:08] <earthmeLon> I was afraid that would make my laptop freeze :P  I've created the file with your second pastebin, Jordan_U
[04:09] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: OK. What is the output of "grub --version"?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Sorry, "grub-install --version".
[04:09] <earthmeLon> sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[04:09] <earthmeLon> sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[04:09] <earthmeLon> grub-install (GRUB) 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[04:10] <crutex> i heard that minecraft was a rip off of some open source game
[04:10] <crutex> called infiniminer
[04:10] <pdtpatrick___> Dos anyone in here use VPS?
[04:10] <crutex> that was cancelled
[04:10] <pdtpatrick___> and which do they recommend?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: That's interesting. It shouldn't cause any problems but I'm curious why you got those errors. Do you see any output from "ls -a"?
[04:11] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I only got those errors when I used /exec -o with xchat.  They didnt happen when I did it at terminal, which is why I used the exec -o option
[04:12] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Ahh, that makes sense then.
[04:12] <PL4Y3R> Linux is open source right
[04:13] <biggz> scottmaccal: i have been running ubuntu on this laptop since 9.10
[04:13] <Logan_> !freedom | PL4Y3R
[04:13] <Monster> how to play .sfw
[04:14] <Polah> Monster: Do you mean .swf?
[04:15] <Scunizi_> Monster: drag the file to your browser address bar
[04:15] <Monster> o yeah
[04:15] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[04:15] <Polah> Monster: Install Flash and play it through a browser, or use Gnash.
[04:15] <PL4Y3R> so u can mod linux
[04:16] <jonesst1> player yes
[04:16] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615613/
[04:16] <Monster> thanks
[04:16] <PL4Y3R> good i hate Windows
[04:16] <g3h0d> who likes windows?
[04:16] <PL4Y3R> i hate it
[04:16] <jonesst1> windows is fine
[04:16] <Polah> g3h0d: People that like to play games and enjoy good wireless functionality (:
[04:16] <g3h0d> its a waste of my time
[04:16] <PL4Y3R> vista sucks
[04:17] <Psydoll> what have the done to the gui with natty ?
[04:17] <Psydoll> its different from maverick
[04:17] <PL4Y3R> the only one i still like is windows xp
[04:17] <tumbes2000> Windows 7 isn't bad but vista was terrible
[04:17] <Monster> i love ubuntu
[04:17] <Polah> Psydoll: Login using "Ubuntu Classic" environment instead of "Ubuntu". Ubuntu uses Unity, Ubuntu Classic uses Gnome
[04:17] <g3h0d> vista should have been thrown away
[04:17] <PL4Y3R> yup
[04:17] <jonesst1> its fine for games
[04:17] <g3h0d> vista?@
[04:17] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: You earlier told me the mountpoint was /media/cdrom/. Did you mean just /cdrom/ (and did you modify my mount -o remount,rw command)?
[04:18] <Polah> PL4Y3R, g3h0d, both system have their flaws and their benefits. It's unfair and unjustified to say one system sucks or is totally superior to the other.
[04:18] <g3h0d> vista is the worst for games
[04:18] <metbsd> how do i list what meta packages i have installed?
[04:18] <Psydoll> Polah: I can still have things looking exactly the same in natty as they did in maverick by using the classic option?
[04:18] <PL4Y3R> Windows xp is great for gaming
[04:18] <Polah> g3h0d: GUI-less Linux is the worst for games, I'd say
[04:18] <nexace> .hiub #java
[04:18] <Polah> Psydoll: Yes.
[04:18] <g3h0d> i dont use linux for gaming
[04:19] <Jordan_U> !ot | PL4Y3R g3h0d jonesst1
[04:19] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/cdrom/      I ran that command
[04:19] <Polah> g3h0d: But you said Vista is the worst for games, I'm just saying it's better than Linux. Anyway, yes; offtopic.
[04:19] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: I don't understand how that's possible when the correct mountpoint was /cdrom/.
[04:20] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, /media/cdrom/   < Location of 'cdrom'
[04:20] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Not according to mount.
[04:20] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615614/
[04:20] <Psydoll> Polah: when is the next version of ubuntu coming out?
[04:20] <StevenSS> Is it possible to retrieve deleted images from a CD or DVD?
[04:21] <Polah> StevenSS: If the data has not been overwritten, yes. Although I don't know of many data recovery programs for Linux
[04:21] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Notice that both have a "cdrom" directory :)
[04:21] <biggz> wen will ubuntu be running version 3 of the kernel?
[04:22] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615615/
[04:22] <Polah> StevenSS: Sorry, I misread. I don't know about a CD or DVD, probably not, someone else might know.
[04:22] <apn_> biggz: when 3 is stable
[04:22] <earthmeLon> Yes, I see that now.  Only noticed it in /media/
[04:22] <Polah> biggz: Not by 11.01
[04:22] <Jordan_U> biggz: Some time after linux switches to a version number of 3.X, which is not likely to happen any time soon.
[04:22] <Polah> 10*
[04:22] <mattk> If I take out my laptop hd, install ubuntu server, put the drive back in my laptop, will it work?
[04:23] <akerl> Jordan_U: have you been asleep lately?
[04:23] <Polah> mattk: You'd need the drive in it to install it. Unless you're going to set the drive up on another computer?
[04:23] <akerl> Jordan_U: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/05/31/linux_kernel_version_3_0/
[04:23] <Psydoll> is there any program out that I can install that will help me learn the command line better?~
[04:23] <Polah> mattk: and probably not, wireless drivers wouldn't work, maybe some hardware
[04:23] <Psydoll> I really want to improve on the command line
[04:23] <mattk> Polah: I need it set up for my laptop but the video card is messed up
[04:23] <jonesst1> anybody installed vmware's vmtools on ubuntu on esxi 4?
[04:23] <Polah> Psydoll: Sure, it's called #ubuntu on Freenode in IRC (:
[04:24] <akerl> Psydoll: So install a linux install without a GUI?
[04:24] <mattk> Polah: will it work at all or at least give me a terminal?
[04:24] <Polah> mattk: Installing Ubuntu won't magically fix the GPU...
[04:24] <Psydoll> akerl: I could do that but I would like to practice abit here before i go that deep into it
[04:24] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: It's important that the grub.cfg, and the iso file, be in the right place. If you don't see the /boot/ which contains /boot/grub/grub.cfg in the same directory as the iso file then something is wrong.
[04:24] <Psydoll> akerl: what distro would you then recomend?
[04:24] <akerl> Psydoll: Check out virtualbox
[04:24] <mattk> Polah: I'm not trying to fix the gpu, the computer still works except for taht
[04:24] <Polah> mattk: Of course, if it's a software issue then popping in a LiveUSB/CD and installing should be fine. Hardware issue, no go.
[04:24] <Psydoll> akerl: Virtual box is that a linux distro?
[04:25] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U doesn't need sleep.  He will be turned into FloodBot4 soon, akerl
[04:25] <Polah> mattk: How do you expect to use it with no screen to see with?
[04:25] <mattk> Polah: ssh
[04:25] <biggz> Jordon_U: linux sign off on version 3rc1 just the other day
[04:25] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Can you pastebin the output of "ls /cdrom/" and "ls /media/cdrom/" ?
[04:25] <akerl> Psydoll: Slackware :p or really any distro. Install virtualbox, load up a VM of whatever distro you fancy, play around
[04:25] <Polah> mattk: That could work, seems a bit more effort than is really necessary. Why not just install ubuntu on the computer you're SSHing from?
[04:25] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to /cdrom/
[04:25] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, ls -lh allowed me to see that :D
[04:25] <mattk> Polah: because I want a dedicated server
[04:26] <Psydoll> akerl: I was looking at slackware I can run that on a virtual machine?
[04:26] <akerl> Psydoll: Yes. You can run pretty much any linux on a VM, especially when you aren't installing a gui
[04:26] <Psydoll> akerl: Ive never used a virutal machine before how can i get started?
[04:27] <akerl> Psydoll: Google? Virtualbox?
[04:27] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Good :)
[04:27] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I just opened my grub.cfg.  the file= are pointing to /cdrom/ and not /media/cdrom/.  Is that what you're referring to?
[04:28] <Psydoll> akerl: Yes I get that program then get the iso of the distro that i want to try out?
[04:28] <akerl> Bingo
[04:28] <Psydoll> ty
[04:28] <Polah> mattk: You might run into some hardware driver issues if you install it from another computer. Give it a try, but chances are your wireless won't work either way.
[04:28] <FreezingIsh> So, I just installed Ubuntu on my second hard drive (sdb) and the bootloader was installed on sda.  Where are the grub config files on sda?
[04:28] <paul__> can anyone tell me the name of the usenet server program that donwloads and assembles .nzb files? It has a browser based gui? I was unsuccesful in googling it
[04:29] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: OK. Here is the step that will break your current live boot setup. Run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/cdrom/boot/ /dev/sda".
[04:29] <Polah> FreezingIsh: /boot?
[04:29] <mattk> can't I get it working later on?
[04:29] <mattk> Polah: can't I get it working later on?
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> Polah, sda only has windows partitions
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> Yet it still boots grub
[04:29] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, Before I do that, what's the *NEXT* step?  :P
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> I've been looking all over the hard drive, but I can't seem to find where it installed
[04:29] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: There are none. There is only the mbr and post-mbr gap.
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> waiiit
[04:29] <Polah> mattk: Perhaps. Wireless support is pretty bad.
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> So it's just on the MBR?
[04:29] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: It's outside any partition.
[04:29] <FreezingIsh> oh
[04:30] <FreezingIsh> How can I edit it?
[04:30] <FloodBot1> FreezingIsh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <dooglus> I have two laptops running 10.04.  both running the same theme.  on one the scrollbars are like usual, on the other they're tiny, and a weird blob pops up when I get the mouse close to them
[04:30] <FreezingIsh> I'm flooding? :/
[04:30] <Polah> FreezingIsh: sudo <editing program> <file> I assume. Ask someone else for the specifics on what to do
[04:30] <dooglus> why the difference?  and how can I go back to the old style?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[04:30] <Polah> paul__: NZB Primer?
[04:30] <dooglus> 11.04, sorry
[04:30] <FreezingIsh> But where is the file?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: Assuming you want to install grub's boot sector to /dev/sdb instead.
[04:30] <FreezingIsh> I don't
[04:30] <Polah> Dooglus: What are you on now, 11.04? when you login, select "Ubuntu" at the bottom and change it to "Ubuntu Classic".
[04:30] <paul__> Polah: it has a web-based gui?
[04:30] <Dulak> You typed too many lines too fast, use complete sentences, the enter key is not punctuation.
[04:30] <FreezingIsh> I want to edit it to boot something else
[04:30] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: There is no file, as there is no filesystem.
[04:30] <Polah> paul__: I don't know, I was just suggesting something.
[04:31] <FreezingIsh> I mean I want to edit the MBR
[04:31] <dooglus> Polah: I use xfce4
[04:31] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: What is your end goal?
[04:31] <FreezingIsh> There's a long story
[04:31] <Polah> dooglus: Select that when you logon then instead of Ubuntu Classic or whatever?
[04:31] <dooglus> Polah: I just want the original style Gtk scrollbars
[04:31] <paul__> Polah: thank you... I'm looking for a specific one I used to use which just runs as a daemon/server type thing.  You can access it through the web
[04:31] <dooglus> Polah: I do.  but the scrollbars are still 'new style'
[04:31] <Polah> dooglus: Can't help you with that then, sorry.
[04:31] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, Do I need to know anything else before I run "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/cdrom/boot/ /dev/sda"  ?
[04:31] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: The next step is testing it in qemu (don't try to do this without following my instructions), and after confirming that it looks good rebooting.
[04:32] <StevenSS> What is a great software package I can make C++ programs from?
[04:32] <FreezingIsh> but I'll give you the short one: gentoo couldn't install grub to sda, so I had to install to sdb which caused a ton of issues.  So now I used Ubuntu to install grub on sda and I want to change it to point to gentoo
[04:32] <akerl> StevenSS: gedit
[04:32] <Polah> earthmeLon: It'll overwrite your MBR and current installation of GRUB.
[04:32] <kay_> exit
[04:32] <StevenSS> very funny. No, seriously
[04:32] <akerl> StevenSS: emacs?
[04:32] <FreezingIsh> So, how can I change grub in the MBR?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: Run "sudo update-grub", which will update /boot/grub/grub.cfg (stored in your Ubuntu partition on sdb, not anywhere on sda).
[04:33] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I though by 'breaking' you meant I would be losing contact with you.  Installation finished.  No errors reported.  Going to take a quick bio break before proceeding if you dont mind.
[04:33] <Polah> StevenSS: CodeLite perhaps.
[04:33] <FreezingIsh> err
[04:33] <FreezingIsh> I deleted ubuntu
[04:33] <prezident> can anyone tell me why linux 2.6.38-8-generic is not working for me it just turns my screen black and i can't do anything
[04:33] <FreezingIsh> Removed all the partitions, I'm back in a liveCD now
[04:33] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: How long of a break?
[04:34] <Polah> prezident: What Ubuntu distribution would help. Have you tried booting into an earlier version of the kernel?
[04:35] <paul__> to anyone taht was curious about my question the program is called SABnzbd
[04:35] <prezident> polah ubuntu 11.04 -yes 2.6.35-28-generic works perfect but i need 2.6.38 for something ?
[04:35] <Polah> Prezident: Why would you specifically need 2.6.38?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: We're very close to done with the real work. If everything was done properly you should just be able to reboot and install normally (it will load the entire contents of the iso into RAM so that you can unmount the flash drive entirely before installing).
[04:35] <dooglus> Polah: seems doing export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 in .xprofile will fix it
[04:35] <FreezingIsh> So, know how I can edit grub on the MBR?
[04:36] <dooglus> not sure why one machine sufered from the problem and not the other though
[04:36] <prezident> polah im tyring to use virtualbox and the kernel needs to be updated
[04:36] <tapoxi> Hi all, I installed apache2 for development, don't always want it running, how do I prevent it from running at startup?
[04:36] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: If you deleted Ubuntu then you broke grub.
[04:36] <dooglus> and it's only in some apps too - firefox and emacs are OK but some apps aren't
[04:36] <FreezingIsh> I know
[04:36] <FreezingIsh> I want to fix it now
[04:37] <Polah> FreezingIsh: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=<directory for grub> /dev/<drive goes here
[04:37] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: You "fix" it by installing grub. Since you're not trying to setup Ubuntu it's a question better asked in #gentoo or #grub.
[04:37] <Polah> FreezingIsh: i.e. sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[04:37] <FreezingIsh> well they won't know how Ubuntu sets up grub
[04:38] <Polah> FreezingIsh: That's how to do it. ^
[04:38] <Polah> Psydoll, why kind of networking?
[04:39] <Psydoll> being able to configure the internet settings etc
[04:39] <FreezingIsh> I kept my partition's names the same though, can't I just add a menu.lst file on sdb?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: It doesn't matter how Ubuntu sets up grub. You removed Ubuntu, you fix that by starting from scratch and installing grub.
[04:39] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: No.
[04:39] <FreezingIsh> Why not?
[04:39] <Polah> Psydoll: Most things can be done through ifconfig I think. Ask someone else to help you, I can't do specifics.
[04:39] <FreezingIsh> Grub is still looking for the same config file right>
[04:40] <Jordan_U> FreezingIsh: Because you removed 75% of grub when you removed the Ubuntu partition.
[04:40] <prezident> anybody knows how to update kernels
[04:40] <prezident> ?
[04:40] <akerl> prezident: apt-get?
[04:41] <prezident> apt-get install what and what
[04:41] <prezident> ?
[04:41] <akerl> ?? Me thinks you don't know what you're trying to do
[04:42] <Dulak> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[04:43] <tapoxi> Anyone? Not letting apache run at startup?
[04:43] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, Are you saying I should reboot?
[04:44] <akerl> tapoxi: Remove it from your inits?
[04:44] <Flannel> !bum | tapoxi
[04:45] <tapoxi> Flannel: Thanks. Also, heh, bum.
[04:45] <celthunder> prezident: kernel.org and build one?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Not yet. I'd like to do a check to be sure we did it right first. run "sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm && sudo losetup -r /dev/loop2 /dev/sda && gksudo qemu /dev/loop2".
[04:46] <bencc> what is more "standard"? lzma or xz? do they keep file permissions?
[04:47] <prezident> celthunder - i don't know how to build i end up messing something up
[04:47] <akerl> prezident: For what reason do you feel the need to build kernels?
[04:47] <Polah> bencc: If you use tar you can preserve permissions with the -p switch
[04:47] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I have a QEMU window that popped up giving me GRUB options like livecd
[04:47] <akerl> bencc: Those are compressions. They compress whatever you give them. Tar can preserve permissions, which is the relevant part
[04:48] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Select the first option. It should load the kernel successfully and likely fail at some point to boot completely.
[04:49] <bencc> does tar -p also preserve the user or does it set the user that extracts the files?
[04:50] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: The moment you see either the Ubuntu logo splash screen or scrolling boot messages you can be sure it worked.
[04:52] <gnewb> bencc: Here is the Manual on that, GNU/GPL style:>http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html
[04:52] <bencc> gnewb: thanks
[04:53] <gnewb> bencc: You are welcome, I hope that helps.
[04:54] <visitor1> i use xubuntu 10.04 and just installed the updates from yesterday but now i dont have anymor the network manager icon in the task bar? help pls
[04:55] <Xeppo> so just did a 11.04 install
[04:55] <Xeppo> and comp says that no boot devce is found
[04:55] <Xeppo> I assume grub didn't install properly/at all?
[04:56] <Polah_> Xeppo: Reinstall GRUB.. sudo grub-install --boot-directory=<directory> /dev/sdX
[04:56] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, that froze my laptop, but i've rebooted successfully :D
[04:56] <Polah_> Xeppo: i.e. sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[04:56] <Trfsrfr> I'm thinking this is a stupid question but I dont have time right now for another download;
[04:57] <Polah_> visitor1, right click panel > add to panel > notification area OR indicator applet, one of those two.
[04:57] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, what's your question?
[04:57] <Trfsrfr> I was downloading 11.04 on my laptop for a live run on my desktop
[04:57] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, I am still unable to unmount the usb drive to partition it, though
[04:57] <ldraf> why do i sometimes get my fieldsets to be collapsible alright, and sometimes they refuse to be collapsible? i'm working with a regular page in drupal 7.
[04:58] <Trfsrfr> when I came back from food, my laptop wouldnt come out of screensaver, and I did a hard re-boot.
[04:58] <visitor1> Polah_ it says i am already running it
[04:58] <Xeppo> Polah_: I'm getting a "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'."
[04:58] <Polah_> ldraf: Better asked in HTML/web design channel, but possibly because you're writing your script wrong or not naming things correctly in it.
[04:58] <Trfsrfr> the size of the file in my download folder is 683.5mb.
[04:59] <Polah_> Xeppo: Trying to install grub on a drive you're currently running? Or are you on a LiveCD/USB and are trying to do it?
[04:59] <Xeppo> LiveCD
[04:59] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, please just ask your question. What's the problem?
[04:59] <Polah_> Xeppo: Is it mounted?
[04:59] <Trfsrfr> just wondering if it actually downloaded the entire file, or if it didnt, and is bad?
[04:59] <ldraf> Polah_, which other channel do you mean? do they also do drupal there?
[04:59] <Xeppo> I dunno?
[05:00] <Xeppo> yes, it's mounted.
[05:00] <Polah_> ldraf: Should come under web design, not Drupal. Drupal is just a CMS, it doesn't change how your HTMl/PHP/JS works or anything like that.
[05:00] <Polah_> Xeppo: Can't help you any more then, sorry.
[05:00] <visitor1> Polah_ i just removed and added it again but no network manager icon only orange
[05:00] <The_Explorer> whats the shell cmd for parallel execution? is it a pipe?
[05:00] <qin> ldraf: /j #drupal
[05:00] <Xeppo> Polah_: because it's mounted?
[05:00] <Polah_> Trfsrfr: 64-bit or 32 bit?
[05:00] <Polah_> Visitor1: Can't help you then, sorry.
[05:00] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, thanks. And 32 bit.
[05:01] <Polah_> Xeppo: No, it should be mounted. I don't know how to help you anymore, try asking in #grub
[05:01] <Xeppo> kk
[05:01] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, I'll give you an MD5 sum
[05:01] <ldraf> Polah_, so i did figure out that this should be drupal's problem, because the difference between when i get collapsible fieldsets and when i don't is in the class attribute - sometimes drupal just decides not to add the collapsible modifier...
[05:01] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, 683.5MB, named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso"?
[05:02] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, yes
[05:02] <ldraf> Polah_, i'm thinking maybe fieldsets are only collapsible inside forms...
[05:02] <Polah_> ldraf: I really can't help you, I've no idea about setting up collapsible fieldsets and it's not really an Ubuntu issue. Take it into #html or similar.
[05:02] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, compare: 8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281  ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:03] <ldraf> Polah_, sorryy!!! i thought i was in #drupal. my BAD!! what's wrong with me, seriously...
[05:03] <celthunder> Trfsrfr: i thought you said you had a 64 bit system
[05:03] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: Forgot about that problem (easy to fix though), I should file a bug report about it. Can you pastebin the output of "sudo losetup -a"?
[05:03] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, if it's 64-bit you have then my md5sum won't match. 32-bit has i386, 64-bit has amd64
[05:03] <Trfsrfr> celthunder, I have an amd athlon64
[05:04] <Trfsrfr> but i believe i downloaded the 32 bit system
[05:04] <celthunder> meh
[05:04]  * celthunder shrugs and goes back to doing nothing
[05:04] <earthmeLon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615626/ Jordan_U
[05:04] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, does the iso you downloaded say i386 at the end of it?
[05:05] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, yes
[05:05] <Trfsrfr> i386.iso
[05:05] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, then we have the same version. Run md5sum <file> on it and compare it to the string I gave you
[05:05] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, 8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281
[05:05] <Polah_> Should match
[05:06] <jerknextdoor> any workaround for the wake from suspend in 11.04?
[05:06] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, ok
[05:06] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: OK, since I'm curious please try running the installer. It will ask if you want it to unmount the partitions and I'm curious if it's smart enough to figure it out on its own. If it's not then "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0" should allow you (and the installer) to unmount it.
[05:07] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, wait
[05:07] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, what is it?
[05:07] <Trfsrfr> im downloading this file on my laptop, for use on my old desktop
[05:07] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, and?
[05:08] <zeroXmalice> how do i make my monitor run at 60hz instead of 70hz
[05:08] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, celthunder  just made me question what I was doing lol
[05:08] <Trfsrfr> okay
[05:08] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: I'll be away for half an hour to 3 hours, but you should be good to go on your own from here.
[05:08] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, >_<  The drive is 4 gigs.  The installer wants at least 4.4G.
[05:08] <celthunder> Trfsrfr: eh i was just asking
[05:08] <Trfsrfr> i just want to know if the file i downloaded is a good file and not corrupt
[05:09] <Trfsrfr> celthunder, its cool.
[05:09] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: :(
[05:09] <earthmeLon> Jordan_U, Thanks so much for your help!  I really thought I'd installed Xubuntu on a 4gb thumb drive before
[05:09] <zeroXmalice> I see my desktop in ubuntu, but I have snow/noise artifacts everywhere. i think its because my monitor should do 1680x1050x60 not x70, how can i resolve this?
[05:09] <earthmeLon> Actually I *KNOW* I have xubuntu on a 4gb thumb drive at home Jordan_U
[05:10] <hcabaguio> So this place is only for support?
[05:10] <madsailor> anyone else had issues with natty randomly kicking to login screen?
[05:10] <qin> hcabaguio: Yes.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> earthmeLon: You're welcome.
[05:11] <hcabaguio> Where can I talk about ubuntu's ui
[05:11] <hcabaguio> Aka ayatana?
[05:11] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, if you downloaded the 32-bit ISO which you have if it says i386, then it's 32-bit and should match mine. Just run an md5sum on it and see if it matches.
[05:12] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: Did you do a Xorg Config?
[05:12] <zeroXmalice> yeop.
[05:12] <zeroXmalice> it set my monitor to disabled or some crap.
[05:13] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973 <is a lot of reading but is good information.
[05:14] <zeroXmalice> http://www.dkfz.de/spec/linux/modeline/ linked doesnt work.
[05:14] <sean-desktop> hello anyone busy? i need a lil help
[05:14] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: Go to the last page of that thread,
[05:15] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, wow, you just lead me on a path...
[05:15] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: I posted an Ubuntu Forum link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[05:15] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, what? I told you what to do to check if it's correct
[05:16] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, yes...and thank you...now if I only knew how to use what you gave me...:)
[05:16] <Trfsrfr> I do however, know the --help thing!
[05:16] <zeroXmalice> •gnewb• Is there a way to query xrandr for available --outputs?
[05:17] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, open up a terminal, navigate to the directory you downloaded the iso to, then run "md5sum <filename>". Let it run and it'll give you a string like mine. Just compare the two of them and see if they match. If they match, your ISO is good to go.
[05:17] <adamkex> what anti virus can i deploy on linux (server)?
[05:18] <zeroXmalice> I don't think xrandr is what I want, its showing my full monitors as one screen I think, I need to change the refresh on one of them, not the other.
[05:18] <magn3ts> Anyone using the new ubuntu-monospaced?
[05:18] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, very cool. thanks again. I think I can figure that out.
[05:19] <pylix> I don't even get viruses on windows.
[05:19] <pylix> but i guess servers are another issue
[05:19] <pylix> a good firewall. and use of a reverse proxy should suffice imo
[05:20] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: Yes, I think this kernel supports that, ttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-change-display-resolution-settings-using-xrandr.html
[05:21] <jonesst1> adamkex you shoulodnt need one
[05:21] <Night-man> ...
[05:21] <adamkex> pylix jonesst1: i am going to have a file server with windows clients
[05:22] <zeroXmalice> That wont work. I just said this, xrandr shows both monitors with ONE resolution.
[05:22] <Polah_> adamkex: There's a number of antiviruses available for Linux. There's Avast, but I can't name any others for certain.
[05:22] <The_Explorer> Is this right?  "sudo mv | grep | ls /media.drive/lost+found/*/*.rtf  /media.drive/rtf/"   ?
[05:22] <adamkex> Polah_: okay, thank you
[05:23] <jonesst1> i didnt think avast did linux
[05:23] <celthunder> adamkex: clamav
[05:23] <jonesst1> clamav might
[05:23] <Polah_> Adamkex: AVG apparently, clamav, avast, kaspersky. A lot of major companies have Linux versions too
[05:23] <jonesst1> clamav is the only free oen I know of
[05:23] <adamkex> celthunder: is clamav any good? i heard it's not updated very often
[05:23] <gnewb> zeroXmalice: Oh , my apologies, I did not know it was a dual monitor thing. Ubuntu Geek or the Forums should have that answer if no-one here does now.
[05:24] <adamkex> Polah_: okay, thank you :)
[05:24] <jonesst1> clamav isnt well regarded
[05:24] <jonesst1> depedns if u want to pay or not
[05:24] <zeroXmalice> I had to manually add a mode line or change the horizsync/vertrefresh before, I remember that. it doesnt get EDID
[05:25] <celthunder> adamkex: jonesst1 idk and honestly i don't care how well it works the only reason it's running at all is cause ihave a mail server and fail customers use it with outlook and windows...i coudln't carel ess if they get viruses
[05:25] <gnewb> !anti-virus
[05:25] <gnewb> !virus
[05:25] <adamkex> celthunder: hehe :)
[05:25] <celthunder> adamkex: lol they pay me to make sure they get email...not to sort through it
[05:26] <jonesst1> i used to run clamav on my email server but i just run avast on the windows stuff now
[05:26] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, that was awesome. thanks so much. What does md5sum dobasically?
[05:26] <zeroXmalice> it makes a magic number, fairly unique, given the exact content of a file.
[05:26] <adamkex> celthunder: hehe :)
[05:26] <zeroXmalice> change the file, number changes.
[05:27] <adamkex> jonesst1: i run avg on windows
[05:27] <celthunder> zeroXmalice: it's not pefect...you can i'm pretty sure change the file and get the same md5 hash...it doesn't analyze everything
[05:27] <Polah_> trfsrfr: calculates an MD5 hash based on a file's data. Any changes in the data will result in a change in the hash. Therefore two identical files would have the same hash. Hence why if your iso was identical to mine, the hashes would match.
[05:27] <akerl> celthunder: that's incorrect except in very controlled circumstances
[05:27] <Polah_> celthunder: Almost any change would result in a change in the hash.
[05:28] <jonesst1> i run avast
[05:28] <Prodego> if you wanted two files to have the same hash, you'd have to try very hard
[05:28] <Polah_> adamkex: I'd recommend the most lightweight antivirus you can find
[05:29] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, very cool. Now im going to put it on a stick, and reload it (possibly) on my desktop.
[05:29] <Trfsrfr> see if I cant get the sound to work
[05:29] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, could've just tried reinstalling pulse (:
[05:30] <madsailor> info on  md5 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5
[05:30] <madsailor> rather than heresay, peer reviewed heresay :)
[05:33] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, okay..tell me more about pulse. I'd rather not re-install, but I have been without sound now for 2 months...
[05:34] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, pulseaudio is (probably) what handles all your system audio.
[05:34] <Trfsrfr> And am a total newb. BUT, i did have sound at one point, in 10.???whatever it was...
[05:34] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install pulseaudio should purge it and reinstall it.
[05:35] <Trfsrfr> ahight
[05:35] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, I'm just assuming you'd be using Pulse, you could be using ALSA or OSS
[05:35] <Trfsrfr> and this dual monitor situation is driving me crazy!!!
[05:35] <Trfsrfr> I must love pain...
[05:36] <spidereater> does anyone here use ailurus on natty?
[05:36] <Lancelot> Does linux work with exFAT? I keep hearing that it does, and that it doesn't.
[05:37] <bencc> can I choose compression level of gz/xz when using tar?
[05:37] <The_Explorer> How do i say in bash: "command (variable= outcome of command)
[05:38] <Polah_> bencc: man tar and have a look
[05:38] <bencc> Polah_: I did. don't see it
[05:39] <ntiy> Hi. I need to completely wipe my hdd. I load from live cd, start gparted, remove all partitions and leave it unallocated. Then I boot from this hdd and I get: "error: no such partition." and grub rescue prompt. where does grub come from&
[05:39] <ntiy> ?
[05:39] <maahes> !clone
[05:39] <Trfsrfr> Polah_, I just ran your command. should I restart?
[05:39] <Polah_> bencc: Can't do it then. Use a different format for better compression, i.e. bz2 maybe
[05:39] <Polah_> Trfsrfr, most probably.
[05:40] <maahes> !automate
[05:42] <bencc> Polah_: tar uses bz2
[05:42] <bencc> Polah_: or whatever you like
[05:42] <Polah_> bencc: I know. Pick whichever one has the best compression if that's what you want.
[05:44] <bencc> Polah_: that's what I was looking for: tar cvf - <dir or file> | gzip -1 - > file.tar.gz
[05:45] <Polah_> bennc: tar -czpf <filename>.tar.gz <source>
[05:45] <dooglus> when I installed ubuntu, a couple of years ago, it asked me if I wanted my home folder encrypted  I said I did.  when I later tried to change my password, I couldn't see my files any more until I changed it back.  has that been fixed yet?  is it safe to change my password now?
[05:45] <Polah_> creates archive, uses gzip, preserves permissions and f is used to define filename
[05:45] <Lancelot> Is ubuntu capable of using exFAT? I keep hearing that it does, and that it doesn't.
[05:45] <Polah_> Lancelot: I don't think it can.
[05:46] <Lancelot> Polah_: I'm trying to decide on a format for a hard drive that is going to be on both windows and linux
[05:46] <Polah_> Lancelot: NTFS? Ext3 has some support in Windows
[05:47] <Lancelot> Polah_: I was hoping to avoid NTFS is possible
[05:47] <Lancelot> if*
[05:47] <Polah_> Lancelot: FAT16/32 has support in Windows and Linux. NTFS has support in Windows and Linux. ext3 has support in Linux and Windows but I'm not sure how good it is in Windows.
[05:47] <xxmmaann> hi
[05:47] <Polah_> Hello
[05:48] <spidereater> ntiy: grub needs a working linux root partition as well as a master boot record.
[05:48] <Lancelot> Polah_: FAT16 and 32 are useless, they can't handle large files
[05:48] <Lancelot> I'll take a look
[05:48] <dooglus> bencc: better: "GZIP=-1 tar cfz file.tgz <dir>"
[05:48] <Polah_> Lancelot: I'm afraid you're stuck with little other option than NTFS or ext3 then. Other filesystems might also be supported in Windows, but probably not very well and I've not heard anything beyond ext3
[05:49] <Lancelot> Polah_: okay then, thanks
[05:49] <Pascalcmoi> Hi, I uninstall and purge bitlbee, now i reinstall it but no /etc/bitlbee directory
[05:49] <ntiy> spidereater: so how is it possible? I removed all partitions and left unallocated space. rebooted from drive and got grub messages. don't understand it
[05:49] <ntiy> spidereater: there are no partitions on my hdd now
[05:50] <spidereater> grub is installed on your mbr. it's configuration files are on your root partition. you need both.
[05:50] <zeroXmalice> is there any apps or widgets that show upload/download in kbyte/s
[05:50] <xxmmaann> i have an error when try to install some updates >
[05:50] <Polah_> ntiy: GRUB is installed in the MBR.
[05:50] <xxmmaann> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2_all.deb 404  Not Found
[05:50] <Polah_> zeroXmalice, ifstat, run it in a terminal and it'll give you upstream/downstream throughput every 3 seconds or so.
[05:50] <ntiy> oh, i see. is there a way to clean MBR from livecd?
[05:51] <zeroXmalice> •Polah_• anything pretty ?
[05:51] <Polah_> ntiy: Reinstalling GRUB or Windows (Windows Bootloader) would wipe over it
[05:51] <xxmmaann> my network connection is working
[05:51] <Polah_> There's a way to do it using dd I think, but I can't recall how.
[05:52] <Polah_> zeroXmalice: Not that I know of. Be glad it's a minimal tool, less resource intensive and does the job you want it to do.
[05:52] <Polah_> xxmmaann, that file actually just doesn't exist.
[05:52] <spidereater> you can boot from a GAG cd and install it to your mbr, it will boot any OS's you have installed. i don't know about wiping the mbr, maybe DBAN?
[05:52] <spidereater> GAG is a boot loader, DBAN is a low level formatting tool
[05:52] <xxmmaann> you can install grub using command line
[05:53] <Polah_> ntiy: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1
[05:53] <ntiy> I don't need grub. I need virgin clean hdd. so that when I star computer I see something like "no os found" or similar
[05:54] <vivanov> just updated oneiric -- keyboard/mouse not working at the login screen -- how to fix?
[05:54] <bencc> dooglus: thanks
[05:54] <Polah_> ntiy: That should do what you want. changing 446 to 512 would wipe out the partition table as well, making any data stored on the disk irretrievable without special recovery software (I imagine)
[05:55] <ntiy> Polah_: thanks. let me try.
[05:55] <ilea> hi all
[05:55] <Polah_> As spidereater mentioned, DBAN would wipe the entire drive and make ALL data totally irretrievable, I think you could even null it with that and set everything back to 0
[05:55] <Polah_> Hello!
[05:55] <spidereater> DBAN may also render your HDD unusable, be careful
[05:56] <ilea> i installed the kubuntu desktop but after restart i dont have the desktop enabled
[05:56] <ilea> how to enable it?
[05:56] <spidereater> at login, choose KDE as your session from the session manager.
[05:56] <Polah_> spidereater: How would it do that? It just wipes over the platter, shouldn't affect functionality.
[05:56] <ntiy> dban is what ccame up after googling. trying to figure out how to make a bootable usb drive with it. I don't have cd-drive
[05:56] <ilea> ok i will try
[05:57] <spidereater> It has hosed a HDD for me before.
[05:57] <Polah_> ntiy: change that command as necessary to point to the right device
[05:58] <Polah_> spidereater: Strange that should happen.
[05:58] <Polah_> ntiy: For a USB drive with Dban, get it (I assume it's an ISO) and then download unetbootin, use that to get it on the drive.
[05:59] <MK``> ntiy: you can re-format it to use GUID instead of MBR :D
[05:59] <spidereater> Polah_: certainly shouldn't. HDD was probably on it's last leg. low level format causes wear and tear. now i have an issue of my own.
[05:59] <Polah_> spidereater: What's the issue, perhaps I can help (:
[05:59] <spidereater> my rear USB ports deactivate when my computer sleeps, and they don't wake with the computer. This leaves me with no keyboard until reboot.
[05:59] <spidereater> Started when I installed natty a week ago. Checked BIOS, no luck.
[05:59] <Polah_> spidereater: Might be a BIOS issue.
[05:59] <Sterist> how long will it takes for 3.0.0 kernel to trickle to ubuntu? :)
[06:00] <Polah_> spidereater: Apparently not. Hibernate or suspend?
[06:00] <DANIEL-ALONE> HOW CAN I BE A CHANEL OPERATOR
[06:00] <Polah_> Sterist: A long time after 12.04 and probably 12.10
[06:00] <spidereater> thats what i thought. works in any distro not based on natty, BIOS settings are fine..
[06:00] <ntiy> ok. dd worked. now I have "No bootable device -- insert a boot disk and press any key"
[06:00] <ntiy> just what I need
[06:00] <DANIEL-ALONE> how can i be a channel operator
[06:00] <ntiy> thanks
[06:01] <spidereater> suspend
[06:01] <Polah_> ntiy: Correct. There is no absolutely no boot information on the disk, it's nulled.
[06:01] <spidereater> it's a desktop
[06:01] <gul> the tittle bar, icons and other visual effects turns into traditional type sometimes.......... any help?
[06:01] <Polah_> Daniel-Alone: You need to be a super cool guy
[06:01] <Polah_> Gul: What are you using? Unity?
[06:01] <rww> !canibeanop > DANIEL-ALONE
[06:01] <rww> Polah_: not true, I'm not cool or super ;(
[06:01] <gul> Polah_: yup!
[06:01] <ntiy> so I guess output of /dev/null was written to hdd, correct?
[06:01] <ntiy> and what is /dev/null?
[06:02] <Polah_> ntiy: A black hole.
[06:02] <Polah_> ntiy: It does what it says on the tin, it is null. It gives no output and anything that goes into it becomes null.
[06:02] <tensorpudding> ntiy: /dev/null is a "device" that is essentially a sink for information
[06:02] <ntiy> lol. I defended masters on  black holes, but I dont understand analogy ^)
[06:03] <gul> Polah_: there?
[06:03] <spidereater> /dev/null is where my girlfriend takes my money to
[06:03] <Polah_> ntiy: Once something goes there, nothing comes back out. Like I said, its output is null
[06:03] <rypervenche> ntiy: It's your trashcan for data :)
[06:03] <tensorpudding> ntiy: well, you know how information gets lost at the event horizon? it's like that, only no hawking radiation
[06:03] <ntiy> in other words, hdd has nothing on it?
[06:03] <Polah_> gul: Hmm, I've no experience with Unity. Perhaps someone else can help. Sorry.
[06:04] <ntiy> not even a junk?
[06:04] <Polah_> ntiy: No, your first 446 or 512 bytes, i.e. your MBR or MBR and partition table now have no data.
[06:04] <hdon> hi all. i have installed a new CA certificate in /etc/ssl/certs. i have a Debian 5 system on which this has worked. on Ubuntu, this isn't working. strace curl shows me that it is opening the correct CA certificate file, but it is rejecting the authenticity of the server. massive wtf here. i have the same PEM formatted CA cert installed on two different systems. one works. one doesn't. WTF
[06:04] <tensorpudding> ntiy: i joke, it's not really like a black hole at all, it's just a file that can be written to, but has nothing in it, and things written to it are discarded
[06:04] <Polah_> tensorpudding, I hope it's not a black hole. I don't need it arbitrarily sucking in data when it wants, emitting radiation and getting larger by itself with no usable output
[06:05] <ntiy> tensorpudding: yea I know. I am just trying to continue your joke :) Sorry gor being jerk ))
[06:05] <gul> the tittle bar, icons and other visual effects turns into traditional type sometimes.......... any help? Using Unity
[06:05] <DANIEL-ALONE> how can i write a bot
[06:05] <hdon> Polah_, lol
[06:05] <Polah_> DANIEL-ALONE, define your context.
[06:05] <Polah_> Now, I was supposed to help someone up there and got sidetracked. Who were you?
[06:05] <spidereater> me me me
[06:05] <Polah_> Ah, spidereater. Suspension issues
[06:05] <tensorpudding> DANIEL-ALONE: there's a lot of guides for writing IRC bots, for a variety of programming languages and purposes
[06:05] <spidereater> :)
[06:06] <Polah_> If it's not a BIOS issue and you're sure, then it could be the way your system is shutting down
[06:06] <ntiy> thanks guys
[06:06] <spidereater> i've read of a similar issue years ago, but can't fing the thread now. the solution was a simple script placed somewhere
[06:06] <spidereater> find*
[06:06] <DANIEL-ALONE> i want to write a bot in c++
[06:07] <hdon> DANIEL-ALONE, another language would be easier
[06:07] <Polah_> There's suspend, where most everything is turned off apart from RAM where the state is stored. Hibernate, where state is saved to disk and everything is totally off. Then there's hybrid which is a mix of the two
[06:07] <hdon> but maybe you already have some C++ class for implementing IRC clients
[06:07] <Polah_> I imagine your typical suspend is just doing suspend, try running pm-suspend-hybrid and see if that still supplies power to your USB ports.
[06:07] <jakemp> Is there a way to make the unity menu always on top?
[06:08] <DANIEL-ALONE> which one?
[06:08] <spidereater> gnome power management calls it sleep
[06:08] <hdon> DANIEL-ALONE, which one what?
[06:08] <rww> DANIEL-ALONE: ubottu (supybot) is written in python. I've used perl to do it in the past.
[06:08] <Polah_> DANIEL-ALONE, for IRC, possibly python. I'm no expert on that
[06:08] <rww> !botclone
[06:08] <Polah_> or perl, yeah
[06:08] <hdon> you can even do it in Javascript these days
[06:08] <hdon> ;)
[06:09] <Polah_> spidereater: Mm, that's probably just normal suspend. try hybrid like I said, just run the command pm-suspend-hybrid with a sudo and it should do it
[06:09] <olskolirc> anyone know anything about auth password or keyring for gwibber?
[06:10] <Polah_> MK``, are you there?
[06:10] <MK``> yes Polah_
[06:10] <MK``> what's up?
[06:10] <maahes> I want to create a tar archive and put two directories into it, I'm having some trouble finding the correct tar syntax, can someone help me?
[06:10] <Polah_> olskolirc, I'd assume the keyring stores the passwords you'd have for whatever accounts you use
[06:11] <olskolirc> yeah and it won't let me in
[06:11] <Polah_> maahes: What compression, if any? gzip, xz, bzip2?
[06:11] <olskolirc> im thinking it like kdewallet just give it one and it won't let me do anything with it
[06:11] <DANIEL-ALONE> tnx alot
[06:11] <Polah_> MK``, before you said GUID could be used instead of MBR. How would that work? The MBR is a physical part of the disk where boot information is stored, isn't GUID an identifier like UUID?
[06:12] <maahes> Polah_: gzip
[06:12] <MK``> Polah_: it's a partition system made to replace MBR, since MBR only allows a maximum partition size of 2 TiB.
[06:12] <MK``> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[06:12] <Polah_> maahes: tar -czpf <name>.tar.gz <directory1> <directory2> should do it
[06:14] <maahes> bah, because my disk is borked it thinks I have no space left
[06:14] <Polah_> Mk``: Ah, Google just took me to GUID, not that page. Interesting to know.
[06:15] <maahes> there we go, thanks Polah_ :)
[06:15] <Polah_> maahes, not a problem (:
[06:16] <MK``> once 2 TB HDDs start becoming commonplace, that'll become more common.
[06:17] <MK``> it also allows a theoretically infinite number of primary partitions, making extended ones obsolete. I think there is a practical limit of 127 on Windows
[06:17] <spidereater> who was just helping me?
[06:17] <Polah_> MK``: Isn't the limit 4 primary partitions?
[06:17] <pylix> MK``: who needs that many?
[06:18] <Polah_> pylix: A person that wants to mount every directory on a separate partition each?
[06:18] <kneaux> Hi, I need help with XModMap - need to add øØ to my keyboard...somewhere.
[06:18] <spidereater> oh hi Polah, hybrid sleep also kills my USB
[06:18] <MK``> Polah_ : only for MBR!
[06:18] <pylix> Polah_: what advantage do you gain doing it that way?
[06:18] <Polah_> MK``: Fair dos.
[06:19] <Polah_> pylix: None at all, but there's a lot of crazy people out there.
[06:19] <pylix> right
[06:19] <Polah_> Spidereater: I'm sure it's a BIOS issue then. Have a look through all your power options in there.
[06:19] <spidereater> everyone: try XFS for your root partition. snappier than Ext
[06:20] <pylix> when i buy a Mac; I'm gonna try and quad-boot. they use intel processors now so it should work
[06:20] <Polah_> pylix: Why would it not work? You'd only be loading one operating system at once...
[06:20] <pylix> I have a tri-boot going for me now. with windows 7 windows xp and Linux
[06:21] <spidereater> there's probably a kernel parameter i could pass to fix it.
[06:21] <vpark> how to install font "Old English Text MT"?
[06:21] <Polah_> Processor shouldn't affect the number of OSes you could have installed.
[06:21] <mattk> any good distro that will go straight to a terminal?
[06:21] <Polah_> You should be able to install as many operating systems as you want, within the limits of partition tables
[06:21] <pylix> Polah_: i heard the older macs hardware didn't support it
[06:21] <Polah_> mattk: Minimal Ubuntu. The ISO is about 12MB.
[06:21] <mattk> I tried it
[06:22] <mattk> Polah_: didn't work for me
[06:22] <Polah_> Pylix: Don't see how it'd be an issue beyond the number of partitions you can have on your drives...
[06:22] <pylix> Polah_: I was probably misinformed.
[06:22] <zengr> archlinux
[06:22] <Logan_> vpark: http://www.azfonts.net/load_font/1196770863_oldengl.html
[06:22] <Polah_> Pylix: Or something like GRUB only listing a limited amount
[06:22] <badger32d> ls
[06:23] <pylix> Polah_: I'm suprised steve jobs didn't try a lockout on his machines
[06:23] <Polah_> mattk: You did it wrong then. You can install normal Ubuntu and use Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 to open up various ttys for cli input rather than gui
[06:23] <spidereater> vpark: i just installed it. double click the font file, in font viewer click "install font"
[06:24] <Polah_> Indeed. I really dislike Steve Jobs just because of the way he acts sometimes.
[06:25] <Polah_> pyrlix: Why are you getting a Mac anyway? Any particular reason?
[06:26] <pylix> Polah_: LED screen and i want to do some osx dev
[06:26] <Polah_> pylix: LED screen. I see how that's a good reason to spend a exorbitant amount of money on a computer
[06:26] <dantheman73> hey guys. Im an extreme noob to linux and i have no idea what im doing
[06:26] <dantheman73> iv had it for 3 days
[06:27] <Polah_> dantheman73: How can we help you
[06:27] <dantheman73> and iv been trying desperatley to just get my ipod working
[06:27] <dantheman73> but i just dont know how
[06:27] <dantheman73> and yes iv followed all the links
[06:27] <dantheman73> iv gone to all the support forums
[06:27] <dantheman73> everything
[06:27] <Polah_> Pylix: I'm building a fairly high end server for half the price of their cheapest iMac. It's horrible.
[06:27] <dantheman73> your building a server? thats awesome man good for you
[06:27] <Polah_> dantheman73, Banshee has a little built in plugin to manage your iPod. I can't tell you how it works because I don't use it, but it's there.
[06:28] <Polah_> Thanks
[06:28] <pylix> Polah_: I know it's a ripoff i do. I've always hated macs the only thing i've ever liked about apple were some of their ipods
[06:28] <spidereater> dancek: are you using banshee? do you havethe ipod package installed?
[06:28] <dantheman73> haha fair enough. and alright iv heard about a banshee plugin i guess il just google it or something. i have an ipod touch 4th generation...does that make a difference?
[06:28] <Polah_> pylix: iPods are good, but their laptops and iMacs are so overpriced. Steve Job's huge denial complex is horrible as well.
[06:29] <txx28> I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I am using anti-glare screen on my monitor. As a result, I am unable to see the "panel" on top. Can I bring it down?
[06:29] <spidereater> dantheman73: search for "ipod" in synaptic. install ipod and try gtkpod
[06:29] <Polah_> dantheman73: Go to your sound menu, or Applications > Sound & Video, start up Banshee. Go to Edit > Preferences > Extensions, look for "Apple Devices Support" and make sure it's enabled.
[06:29] <dantheman73> and no i dont think im using that ipod package...which brings me to another issue. EVERYTIME (like, literally, EVERY TIME) i try and download something, i get an error message saying "package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[06:29] <Polah_> After that there'll be a bit on the left sidebar that lets you manage it, I think
[06:30] <vpark> spidereater: Thanks. but after installation it's not seen in open offivce I've also
[06:30] <dantheman73> ok thanks guys im gonna go and try that right now
[06:30] <vpark> spidereater: Thanks. but after installation it's not seen in open office.
[06:30] <vpark> Logan_: Thanks. but after installation it's not seen in open office.
[06:31] <Logan_> vpark: Did you restart OpenOffice.org?
[06:31] <spidereater> make sure to restart openoffice.
[06:31] <spidereater> oops
[06:31] <Polah_> txx28: You can move that panel to any side of your screen. Right click > Properties: Orientation
[06:31] <Scotty> ahhhhhhhh  lol
[06:32] <dantheman73> open office is another one of those programs...everytime i try and download something (like, literally anything and everything) i get this error mesage "package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[06:32] <txx28> OK I will try it now
[06:32] <dantheman73> its like the ubuntu software center is pratically useless
[06:32] <sunil_> How can I know my file is being processed on which core processor.
[06:32] <spidereater> yes, it is useless
[06:32] <spidereater> try synaptic
[06:32] <pylix> Polah_: it's economics really. people are willing for whatever reason to pay these insane prices so they stay high; much like gibson guitars. it's just a luxury for me i can't find a pc that looks classy. i liked the asus bamboo though. I once had a powerbook 4 many years ago. I kinda miss those days
[06:32] <gskellig> how do I get unity back? I had it on the live cd but after installing its gone
[06:33] <vpark> Logan_: ya that was the problem. Thanks friend.
[06:33] <Logan_> vpark: you're welcome :)
[06:33] <Polah_> gskellig: When you login, at the bottom select "Ubuntu" on the right-most menu.
[06:33] <pylix> ok no more offtopic for me
[06:33] <gskellig> when I login I use "ubuntu" not "ubuntu-classic"
[06:33] <tensorpudding> gskellig: you have 11.04? are you choosing the Ubuntu session instead of Ubuntu Classic
[06:33] <gskellig> I'm on 11.04 and I'm NOT logging in with classic
[06:33] <Name141> Why does sshd use about 30-45% of the CPU during transfers of SCP or SFTP ?
[06:33] <tensorpudding> gskellig: what happens?
[06:33] <gskellig> normal gnome starts
[06:33] <gskellig> thats what happens
[06:33] <gskellig> =/
[06:33] <dantheman73> ok il try synaptic right now..thanks so much spider & poolah i really appreciate your help
[06:34] <Polah_> Name141: It needs to encrypt all the data as it sends it?
[06:35] <Name141> Polah_: I'm assuming so
[06:36] <Fantik> SCREENSAVER 3D http://searchforhuman.com/index-08.html
[06:36] <Polah_> Name141: I can't think of any other reason as to why it would be that high otherwise.
[06:36] <sunil_> How can I know my file is being processed on which core processor.
[06:36] <gskellig> any ideas? for my unity issue?
[06:37] <Polah_> sunil_: taskset -p PID
[06:37] <Polah_> gskellig: None. Sorry.
[06:38] <gskellig> =\
[06:38] <spidereater> Polah_: did they remove --fix-broken ferom apt-get? it's not working for me now.
[06:38] <sunil_> Polah_: Thanx, let me try this
[06:38] <spidereater> from*
[06:38] <Polah_> spidereater: No idea.
[06:39] <Petskull> you guys know good personal code versioning apps for linux?  something where I wouldn't have to connect to a server?
[06:39] <Petskull> I could get git or cvs, but I don't wanna spend more time configuring than coding..
[06:40] <sunil_> Polah_: I got the "pid 4717's current affinity mask: 3" It is not clear to me what this mean.
[06:43] <Polah_> sunil_: I think it's the way it's identified. Are you on a dual-core?
[06:44] <sunil_> Polah_: yes,
[06:44] <HaerdenC> then 3 is the hyperthreat core of core one ;)
[06:44] <sunil_> Polah_: its centrino duo, is it same as dual-core
[06:45] <Polah_> sunil_: I'd imagine processor #0 is 1, processor #1 is 2, so 1+2 = 3
[06:45] <Polah_> Just a guess though
[06:45] <sunil_> Polah_: that means it is equally distributed across two core.
[06:46] <Polah_> sunil_: No, only one core will be processing the thread unless the program is multi-threated
[06:46] <Polah_> That checks affinity and determines which cores it can run on
[06:47] <sunil_> Polah_: Actually, I am running a script a.sh which runs 10 instance of b.sh, but I am not getting the performance. So, can you guide me where the problem lies.
[06:48] <Polah_> sunil_: No. Sorry.
[06:48] <sunil_> Polah_: have you any idea about running a shell script as multithreaded.
[06:48] <Polah_> sunil_: No.
[06:49] <exodus_ms> lame question but im not sure how to search irc for a channel, is there a channel on freenode for virtualbox?
[06:49] <sunil_> Polah_: ok, anyways thanx for giving me your precious time.
[06:49] <tx0105> if i downloaded some custom icons...whats the control panel to change that in Unity?
[06:49] <Polah_> tx0105: Icons for what?
[06:50] <HaerdenC> sunil_ check http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=9
[06:50] <HaerdenC> ;-)
[06:50] <neil_> any recommendations on PCB software?
[06:50] <Polah_> tx0105: If you select any launcher and edit its properties, you can change the icon by clicking the icon at the left of the properties window and navigating to the image you want to use
[06:50] <sunil_> HaerdenC: Thanx, I am reading the link, may be this will help me out.
[06:51] <Polah_> neil_: PCB Designer (pcb) or Eagle maybe
[06:51] <Danirl> y esto q es o pa q es???
[06:52] <IdleOne> !es | Danirl
[06:52] <paul__> I know this isn't directly ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to make mplayer play files within a directory mplayer -r "directory" doesn't do the trick
[06:52] <neil_> Polah_, have you used ether?
[06:53] <Polah_> neil_: Nope. Give them a try though.
[06:54] <sunil_> HaerdenC: I am not able to decide, how can I use xarg with my script.
[06:54] <tripelb> (space-brain) has forgotten the PDF reader (can copy text in it too) that is someting like --- wll IDN evite>?  I want to use it. I installed it
[06:55] <sunil_> HaerdenC: did you understand my problem.
[06:55] <tripelb> How can I get a list of all installed by me programs? Can I?
[06:55] <HaerdenC> paul__ Edit your mplayer.conf file scroll to the bottom where it says allow directory play = 0 change that to a 1 pretty sure that will fix the issue :D
[06:55] <neil_> Polah_, I will have a look thanks.
[06:55] <gskellig> how do I get unity back? I had it on the live cd but after installing its gone
[06:55] <gskellig> when I login i choose "ubuntu" not "ubuntu classic"
[06:55] <zykes-> if my disk shows 11789.5GB in fdisk -l shouldn't then the physical volume be bigger then 10.72 ?
[06:55] <HaerdenC> sunil_ it was just something I found on google :) no idea on how to implement however it shows it is possible
[06:55] <neil_> what is the ubuntu chat forum?
[06:55] <zykes-> tb
[06:56] <HaerdenC> gskellig are you graphics drivers installed ? unity will not work if you have classical drivers
[06:56] <sunil_> HaerdenC: ok, thanx for google to help me.
[06:56] <tripelb> neil_, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:57] <neil_> tripelb, thanks
[06:57] <tripelb> (space-brain) has forgotten the PDF reader (can copy text in it too) that is someting like --- wll IDN evite>?  I want to use it. I installed it   ---- this is important, someone else wants a NOT adobe pdf program.
[06:58] <gskellig> HaerdenC, graphics drivers are installed, it's an integrated intel graphics card
[06:58] <gskellig> it worked perfectly on the livecd
[06:58] <gul> how to open/mount/burn sparseimages ?
[06:58] <gskellig> but after installing it wont load
[06:58] <hacklu_> 0
[06:59] <tripelb> pkyes
[07:00] <tripelb> Evince (the included PDF reader in Ubuntu)  --- it's included in a repository  sudo apt-get install evince  worked for me
[07:01] <dooglus> every time I log in, I get a blank gnome-terminal running 'orca'.  what's running it, and how can I stop it?
[07:01] <josephnexus_1> hi everyone!
[07:02] <HaerdenC> gskellig this might be due to an update ... did you check the option download and install updates during installation ?
[07:02] <raju> dooglus,  go to startup programs and remove it from the list
[07:02] <HaerdenC> gskellig check this for more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1679795
[07:02] <dooglus> raju: it's not on the list
[07:02] <josephnexus_1> i'm trying to get 11.04 working on a desktop computer with an ati radeon 4650 graphics card.  It runs, but very very slowly
[07:02] <RevSpecies116> zykes-: Please repeat that question? You are trying to know the whereabouts of a vanished gigabyte?
[07:02] <josephnexus_1> running glx gears yeilds about 400 FPS
[07:03] <raju> dooglus,  i am done dear sorry i am upto this
[07:03] <josephnexus_1> this is after installing the proprietary drivers... anyone else experiencing this?
[07:03] <dooglus> raju: no problem
[07:03] <raju> yeah
[07:03] <josephnexus_1> before installing the proprietary drivers, performance was still bad.
[07:03] <HaerdenC> gskellig first thing I would try is sudo unity --reset and do a reboot
[07:03] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: That is normal
[07:03] <gskellig> yeah i did
[07:03] <gskellig> i checked install updates during install
[07:03] <RevSpecies116> And, BTW, how you enjoying the Nexus One phone? I love mine
[07:04] <gul> how to open/mount/burn sparseimages ? Any help?
[07:04] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: in my  reading, i've seen that I should be able to get about 4000 FPS in GLX Gears
[07:04] <josephnexus_1> is something not configured properly?
[07:04] <dooglus> I see I have a file /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop.dpkg-new and wonder if that's related
[07:05] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: Perfectly normal - and not to worry, human eyes can't tell the difference between 400 or 4000 FPS
[07:05] <josephnexus_1> except that unity runs at about 10 FPS
[07:05] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: Unity runs that bad with the proprietary drivers?
[07:05] <josephnexus_1> it is on my machine
[07:05] <josephnexus_1> that's why I'm asking
[07:06] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:06] <RevSpecies116> 10FPS for Unity IS bad
[07:07] <josephnexus_1> my other desktop gets about 8200 FPS with GLXgears and of course runs unity well (it is on an nvidia grpahics card)
[07:07] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: See this link for an unbiased benchmarking - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_managers1&num=1
[07:07] <RevSpecies116> It depends on the Graphics driver, unfortunately :(
[07:07] <josephnexus_1> considering the integrated chipset that this motherboard had was getting about the same framerate, I suspect something is wrong.
[07:08] <HaerdenC> if you search on google for unity slow on ati ... you will finde several bugs + fixes ;)
[07:08] <josephnexus_1> i tried running in classic mode
[07:08] <josephnexus_1> still had poor framerates in any games and what not
[07:08] <HaerdenC> seems like some ati cards have this issue ;)
[07:08] <speeqs> Hey guys could anyone please tell me how to locate my windows folder. i had an error installing directx after being prompted to by POL and it told me to look there to determine the problem, anyhelp is greatly appreciated :D thanks!
[07:08] <josephnexus_1> i figured as much, i'm going to try to spin up a fedora disk and see if that performs any differently
[07:09] <josephnexus_1> speeqs: ~/.wine/drive_c
[07:09] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: If fedora performs better I guess I just file a bug report?
[07:10] <speeqs> thank you :)
[07:10] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: yes, that is the best course of action.
[07:10] <josephnexus_1> speeqs: no problem
[07:10] <RevSpecies116> The more bugs/issues that are raised, the better progress on 11.04, 11.10, and 12.04 will happen
[07:10] <RevSpecies116> in regards to unity
[07:10] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: yeah, i really like ubuntu... it's just issues like this that need the occasional squashing
[07:10] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:11] <RevSpecies116> And I want Unity running like perfection by the time 12.04LTS comes around...
[07:11] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: the issue isn't just unity
[07:11] <josephnexus_1> it looks like all opengl apps perform very very poorly
[07:11] <josephnexus_1> at least on this card...
[07:12] <josephnexus_1> supertuxcart barely runs...
[07:12] <josephnexus_1> and this card (the 4650) should be quite powerful
[07:13] <RevSpecies116> bummer - the 4650 should be very good
[07:13] <HaerdenC> yes it should
[07:13] <josephnexus_1> alas, it mocks me
[07:13] <josephnexus_1> it is the agp version
[07:13] <josephnexus_1> which i know is a bottleneck
[07:13] <josephnexus_1> but should still run great
[07:13] <josephnexus_1> unless there is something special I have to do for AGP goodness?
[07:14] <RevSpecies116> Unity is not like running a #D intensive game, so AGP for Unity/Compiz is a non-issue
[07:14] <RevSpecies116> Yet here we are.... :(
[07:14] <RevSpecies116> #D = 3D
[07:14] <josephnexus_1> #D = C#, but more advanced, and coded backwards
[07:14] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:14] <RevSpecies116> And not controled by Balmer, one hopes ;)
[07:15] <josephnexus_1> :P
[07:15] <RevSpecies116> bug 1 :)
[07:15] <HaerdenC> here someone has the same issue http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=45823
[07:15] <lucky105> ubuntu  runs fine  with with Intel motherboard + intel processor or with amd +asus motherboard ????
[07:16] <lucky105> without driver issues
[07:16] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: the driver ubuntu suggests is from 2009?
[07:16] <josephnexus_1> that seems a little... dated...
[07:16] <RevSpecies116> lucky105: Good question
[07:17] <HaerdenC> lucky105 yes both work fine ... I hava an amd x2 5600 black edition on an Asus m2n-e sli :) with nvidia graphics
[07:17] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: That is dated. You are on 11.04? AMD dropped all kinds of support for X-Server with Catalyst 11.5
[07:17] <josephnexus_1> i am on 11.04
[07:17] <josephnexus_1> installed what it suggested in the gtk-jockey of power
[07:20] <lucky105> HaerdenC : I actually hesitate from nvidia ..... there r some issues with nvidia........as I googled...
[07:21] <tx0105> does anybody here use conky?
[07:21] <theadmin> lucky105: More issues with ATI tbh
[07:21] <tx0105> i just installed the package and I can't find the config file
[07:21] <RevSpecies116> Checking on the AMD website
[07:21] <theadmin> tx0105: Should be ~/.conkyrc, no?
[07:21] <HaerdenC> lucky105 nvidia is very well supported on linux ... I had several cards all worked well ;)
[07:22] <josephnexus_1> my 2 nvidia workstations are happy
[07:22] <josephnexus_1> it's this ati one that is mocking me
[07:22] <josephnexus_1> apparently ati doesn't list Linux as an OS on their driver download site
[07:22] <HaerdenC> yes ati and linux is not a very good choice :)
[07:22] <tx0105> theadmin I just checked in my /home folder....no .conky folder or .conkyrc
[07:22] <tx0105> should it show up when you install the package
[07:23] <HaerdenC> tx0105 and in /etc ?
[07:23] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: it doesn't - I can't find it there either ;)
[07:23] <lucky105> thanx ... some relief ...... now I can buy
[07:23] <josephnexus_1> i found it
[07:23] <theadmin> tx0105: It's not in /home, it's in /home/whateveryourusernameis
[07:23] <josephnexus_1> you have to do an "advanced" search
[07:23] <josephnexus_1> eww
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> 71 MB for a graphics card driver
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> it's downloading
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> but I think the one that is packaged with 11.04 is exceptionally old
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> hopefully installing this one fixes the issue
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> if not, I have fedora downloading
[07:24] <HaerdenC> tx0105 there is a #conky support chan over here :)
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> and if fedora runs better, I file a bug report
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> if fedora runs the same
[07:24] <tx0105> thanks i'll check it out
[07:24] <josephnexus_1> i file the graphics card in the trash
[07:24] <theadmin> josephnexus_1: Fedora? Eww. Honestly, Fedora is annoyingly unstable.
[07:25] <gul> how to open/mount/burn sparseimages ? Any help?
[07:25] <josephnexus_1> theadmin: it's for testing a specific issue i'm hitting
[07:25] <HaerdenC> josephnexus_1 another option ... remove the ati card and install a cheap nvidia :)
[07:25] <josephnexus_1> HaerdenC: my budget is shot
[07:25] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:25] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: http://digitizor.com/2011/05/31/ati-catalyst-11-5-fglrx-8-5-ubuntu-11-04/
[07:25] <RevSpecies116> That link may help
[07:26] <HaerdenC> gul
[07:26] <RevSpecies116> Gives download locations of 11.5 for linux
[07:26] <nexace> is it possible to create a parition from an existing one using cfdisk?
[07:26] <HaerdenC> gul you need to install AcetoneISO ;)
[07:26] <Guest4706> I changed the sensitivity for my touchpad driver in xorg.conf. Can I just reload the module for it to take effect?
[07:26] <theadmin> nexace: Not sure if cfdisk can resize partitions.
[07:26] <theadmin> nexace: Think it could
[07:26] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: i saw that.... i think i found that using the advanced search on the ati site
[07:26] <theadmin> Guest4706: I think you need to restart X
[07:26] <gul> HaerdenC: AcetoneISO is not able to handle sparseimages
[07:27] <nexace> theadmin: i will attempt to google with 'resize'
[07:28] <josephnexus_1> my sparse image knowledge is rather sparse
[07:28] <josephnexus_1> ...
[07:28] <Guest4706> theadmin: ok
[07:28] <theadmin> nexace: You'd probably need to use a LiveCD, anyway, since you can't really operate with used partitions.
[07:28] <gul> josephnexus_1: :)
[07:28] <nexace> theadmin: ok, thank you
[07:28] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: I trust the following link better, as the linked site I have used before - all the way back with 8.04 :) http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[07:29] <RevSpecies116> That is a detailed breakdown of both the proprietroy and OSS AMD/ATi drivers
[07:30] <HaerdenC> gul what you could do is use wine + windows program that can open them ... i supose there are more windows tools that would probably do this without a problem ... not a perfect solution however if you can use it as a work around or convert it to for example an iso ... you problem is solved
[07:31] <gul> HaerdenC: tried transmac and macdrive both............ trnsmac can open it but no burning or mounting......... macdrive can only explore
[07:32] <rkhshm> how do i configure ftp to run as root .. I'm on 10.10
[07:32] <rkhshm> I'm unable to connect as root
[07:32] <HaerdenC> what kind of ftp server do you use ?
[07:32] <rkhshm> ftpd
[07:33] <gul> anybody? anything ? anyscript,software / package for sparseimages?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !helpme | gul
[07:34] <nexace> rkhshm: are you running ftpd through inetd? you should just install vsftpd
[07:34] <HaerdenC> rkhshm in the /etc folder you will find the ftpd.conf file or in a subfolder
[07:34] <HaerdenC> edit it
[07:34] <rkhshm> HaerdenC: no fixed it.. /etc/ftpusers
[07:34] <gul> oooooooooooo
[07:34] <rkhshm> uncomment 'root' there and it works.. thank you..
[07:34] <rkhshm> But now though I need to know how i can pass without having to enter the password.
[07:35] <HaerdenC> ok cool :) didn't know that
[07:35] <rkhshm> becuase I'm performing some test on ftp and i dont want to enter password eachtime
[07:35] <HaerdenC> why would you do that rkhshm ???
[07:35] <nexace> rkhshm: that is going to be a huge hassel
[07:35] <rkhshm> nexace: why..
[07:35] <HaerdenC> you can create a small script called loginftp.sh that does the command with user and pass ... chmod to execute
[07:37] <rkhshm> are there cmd line options for specifying uname and passwd btw?
[07:37] <rkhshm> for ftop
[07:37] <rkhshm> ftp
[07:37] <nexace> pipe with echo
[07:38] <HaerdenC> $FTP -n $FTPS <<END_SCRIPT
[07:38] <HaerdenC> quote USER $FTPU
[07:38] <HaerdenC> quote PASS $FTPP
[07:38] <HaerdenC> $ftps -> server u -> user p -> pass :-)
[07:39] <josephnexus_1> here we go... the ati driver is installing
[07:39]  * josephnexus_1 crosses his fingers
[07:39] <TbHack> good day y'all
[07:39] <theadmin> Hello, TbHack
[07:40] <vpark> using 10.10. used to connect to LAN thru cable before re-installation. Not getting connected now. The connection is working for other laptops. Restarting does not help. pl help.:)
[07:40] <TbHack> hello theadmin, what's new today?
[07:40] <theadmin> vpark: Is the connection listed in NetworkManager? Does "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" work?
[07:40] <theadmin> TbHack: Meh, only boredom xD
[07:40] <vpark> let me see
[07:40] <gul> how to open/mount/burn sparseimages ? tried Transmac & Macdrive but no help.
[07:40] <TbHack> theadmin: how boring?!!
[07:41] <plouffe> rkhshm, maybe sftp can work with ssh keys
[07:41] <TbHack> don't you have to work or study, theadmin?
[07:41] <RevSpecies116> josephnexus_1: Crossing my toes too
[07:41] <RevSpecies116> ;)
[07:41] <TbHack> lol
[07:41] <TbHack> :P
[07:41] <theadmin> TbHack: Yes, but that's boring ;D
[07:42] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: dang... this package build step is taking forever
[07:42] <josephnexus_1> probably due to this being on a celeron
[07:43]  * josephnexus_1 wishes that one could have applets in unity.
[07:44] <theadmin> josephnexus_1: If that makes you feel better, you can't have them in gnome anymore either
[07:45] <vpark> theadmin: connection is listed as Wired connection 1 and sudo ifconfig eth0 up executes but no o/p
[07:45] <josephnexus_1> theadmin: i know, it's totally tragic
[07:45] <josephnexus_1> i might have to hop over to kde
[07:46] <theadmin> vpark: Well, does bringing the connection up via nm work?
[07:46] <ksinkar>  is there any way to search for the text that is generated in the terminal?
[07:46] <theadmin> josephnexus_1: Do that.
[07:46] <theadmin> ksinkar: blahblah | grep -i "text"
[07:46] <josephnexus_1> i'm rather liking unity though....
[07:47] <vpark> actually i've deleted the existing 1 and recreated a new. how should i bring it up
[07:47] <theadmin> vpark: Srsly? Click the NM icon in tray and then choose the connection
[07:48]  * josephnexus_1 sees that the system is going down for a reboot NOW!
[07:48] <RevSpecies116> bummer, josephnexus_1 :(
[07:48] <josephnexus_1> let's see if this new driver is any better
[07:48] <RevSpecies116> Fingers and TOES crossed
[07:48]  * josephnexus_1 waits for the machine to boot up.
[07:48] <ksinkar> theadmin: not that
[07:48] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: no reason to become a contortionist over this
[07:48] <theadmin> ksinkar: Then explain better
[07:48] <josephnexus_1> :-p
[07:48] <RevSpecies116> ;) LOL
[07:49] <ksinkar> theadmin: the bash has thrown a lot of text at me while i am runnning a command
[07:49] <vpark> theadmin: a newb !
[07:49] <ksinkar> now i want to search that text that has been thrown at me
[07:49] <vpark> theadmin: sorry, it dsnt work
[07:49] <rkhshm> but there is a way using the .netrc file right.. anyone has idea about that.. coz i'm not able to get that working
[07:49] <josephnexus_1> ksinkar: use a pipe
[07:49] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:49] <nexace> is anyone of advanced linux architectural knowledge willing to discuss a very unusual idea?
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[07:50] <theadmin> vpark: Okay, that's weird. Honestly, my suggestion is this: don't use ubuntu xDD
[07:50] <Jordan_U> nexace: If it's an Ubuntu support question then just ask it.
[07:50] <ylmfos> h
[07:50] <nexace> Jordan_U: its not
[07:50] <Jordan_U> nexace: Then this is the wrong channel.
[07:51] <vpark> theadmin: what's xDD
[07:51] <Dulak> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:51] <josephnexus_1> RevSpecies116: performance is the same... or worse
[07:51] <theadmin> vpark: Just a smiley, whatever, I was mostly kidding
[07:51] <josephnexus_1> i guess it's now time to test w/ fedora... but that can wait... late here, and I have work tomorrow
[07:51] <RevSpecies116> I want to use a stronger word than bummer at this point, josephnexus_1  :(
[07:51] <josephnexus_1> it's aight
[07:51] <josephnexus_1> i will survive
[07:51] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[07:51] <RevSpecies116> :)
[07:52] <josephnexus_1> even if I can't play minecraft on this machine :-(
[07:52] <RevSpecies116> Survive till at least 12.04LTS ;)
[07:52] <josephnexus_1> well, i'll try some other distros and compare what's out there.
[07:52] <RevSpecies116> Sleep well, josephnexus_1
[07:52] <adwait_neo> can someone suggest me one irc chat client for mac osx 10.6
[07:52] <adwait_neo> ?
[07:52] <vpark> theadmin: anyway than!x
[07:52] <frankin> 12.04?
[07:52] <theadmin> adwait_neo: Wrong channel.
[07:52] <frankin> what?
[07:52] <vpark> i mean thanx
[07:53] <r0fs3ck5> adwait_neo: install ubuntu, there is a chat client included
[07:53] <RevSpecies116> frankin, in April 2012, 12.04LTS will be released
[07:53] <HaerdenC> adwait_neo :-) wrong chan
[07:53] <josephnexus_1> welll... good night everyone~
[07:53] <RevSpecies116> I ONLY use the LTS releases, so I'm on 10.04LTS
[07:53] <theadmin> adwait_neo: But seriously, irssi ftw
[07:53] <frankin> I'm on 10.10
[07:54] <adwait_neo> i use ubuntu 11.04 and its like my gf now :)
[07:54] <theadmin> adwait_neo: ...How is that? xD
[07:54] <adwait_neo> loving the all new superb experience :)
[07:55] <RevSpecies116> I want Unity backported to 10.04LTS - I want the love of Unity
[07:55] <gul> how to open/mount/burn sparseimages ? tried Transmac & Macdrive but no help.
[07:55] <dspace> adwait_neo: You like Unity?
[07:55] <adwait_neo> yeah
[07:56] <dspace> Seems like it's harder / takes longer to find apps
[07:56] <adwait_neo> and i am now going to contribute to this community :)
[07:56] <RevSpecies116> Let me tell you: Shuttleworth has it right with Unity on the left [or right]. My friend has a disgusting iMac, and SHE has put her dock on the left for the very reason Shuttleworth mentions - Need more vertical space
[07:56] <RevSpecies116> She didn't know about that Ubuntu feature till I mentioned it to her this morning
[07:57] <adwait_neo> LoL
[07:57] <ksinkar> josephoenix: using a pipe to grep can help only if the process is that is throwing output has finished its job
[07:57] <HaerdenC> I also really like unity ... the switch was hard and in the beginning it was not very productive for me ... however ... after some time i see the advantages only the startmenu thing s***s they should just give you the option to get a "classic" menu
[07:57] <jdash> anyone have any idea why when I upgraded a netbook running the Ubuntu Netbook Edition to 11.04 it finished the upgrade, said restart and now just loads to a blank page
[07:57] <dspace> Yeah, moving panels / docks to the side is a good idea. I did that on my Win7 box because it is amenable to that now (of course, I installed over Win7 :)
[07:57] <ksinkar> josephoenix: what if it still is running
[07:57]  * theadmin doesn't have any panels
[07:58] <RevSpecies116> <-- Loves the idea of Unity
[07:58] <RevSpecies116> dspace - just a small learning curve
[07:58] <RevSpecies116> :)
[07:58] <adwait_neo> i <3 Uboooooontu :)
[07:58] <ksinkar> josephoenix: what if i have just done a lot of shelling and then i want to search for a word in the output particular command that i had typed some three hours ago without squinting through the whole code?
[07:58] <RevSpecies116> I got used to the close/min/max on the left almost immediatly
[07:59] <RevSpecies116> And can use both Windows and Ubuntu without any slowdown
[07:59] <dspace> There were a lot of things I didn't like about it. The global menu, which puts all the menu items far away from the window. The fact that it's *invisible* until you move your mouse over it, which wastes time unless you memorize the location of every menu
[07:59] <HaerdenC> yeah however that is just MAC style :-)
[07:59] <theadmin> ksinkar: Impossible. It's not stored anywhere.
[07:59] <RevSpecies116> adwait_neo: Loving the Ubuntu too :)
[07:59] <adwait_neo> great :)
[07:59] <HaerdenC> yes the menu just is ... flashy crap :) they just should have given you the choice for the flashy menu and a classic form
[07:59] <dspace> The lens, which takes more time to find apps untless you type them out (not good for accessibility)
[08:00] <ksinkar> theadmin: what is your opinion about screen?
[08:00] <Licenser> has anyone here experience with LSI Raid controllers?
[08:00] <theadmin> ksinkar: screen is meh. tmux rules
[08:00] <HaerdenC> yes i have an lsi in 2 debian servers :)
[08:00] <HaerdenC> scsi :)
[08:02] <anirudhr> Hey, I have installed proftpd as a service managed by inetd. How do I stop the ftp service?
[08:03] <Licenser> HaerdenC: you ever had a problem that a controller was only recognized every now and then? I have to unplug the battery every few starts to make ti work :(
[08:03] <Licenser> well semi work
[08:03] <HaerdenC> Licenser nopes always working however the servers are not rebooted the last 700 days :)
[08:03] <Dulak> Licenser put it into another card slot, if it does the same thing, replace it
[08:04] <HaerdenC> we use them as dns :)
[08:04] <rkhshm> after adding the .netrc with credentials if you execute ftp -n <IP-ADDR> it works
[08:04] <rkhshm> withouth passwd
[08:06] <gskellig> HaerdenC, remember me? unity still not working, I tried unity --reset and also tried that link you showed me, although it looked like it was fixed and a simple upgrade would fix it. The problem was from back in Feb, before the final release.
[08:06] <theadmin> ksinkar: How tmux looks, basically (bottom bar is something unique, helps really): http://i.imm.io/64K7.png
[08:06] <anirudhr> How do I configure an application in /etc/init.d to not start at startup?
[08:07] <faLUCE> hi. How can I sniff data incoming in /dev/video0 ?
[08:07] <gskellig> anirudhr, remove it? or comment it out of rc.local
[08:07] <theadmin> anirudhr: chmod -x /etc/init.d/lolapp
[08:07] <gskellig> listne to theadmin, not me.
[08:07] <gskellig> I dont know what im talking about
[08:08] <Licenser> Dulak: yes I feared it to be a HW issue :( I was just hoping there is smewhere a hidden jumper that I can swtich from 'act wired' to 'work properly'
[08:08] <Dulak> Licenser: it could be a faulty connection in the card slot, I've had that happen before, which is why I suggested swapping slots
[08:09] <anirudhr> gskellig: It does not have an entry in rc.local. I think theadmin 's solution is best. Dang, I wish there were a more elegant way to do it. :D
[08:09] <Licenser> Dulak: *nods* sadly that was my first take too :)
[08:09] <Licenser> didn't help
[08:10] <gskellig> anirudhr, yeah i told him to listen to theadmin =P
[08:10] <gskellig> told you* not him*
[08:10] <gskellig> =P
[08:10] <Dulak> anirudhr: sudo update-rc.d servicename stop 80 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 .
[08:10] <kdbwnf> Hi. I have a problem with phpmyadmin. Can you  help me?
[08:10] <gskellig> you could always rename it =/
[08:10] <theadmin> Dulak: How is that more elegant :/
[08:11] <Dulak> it's correct
[08:11] <gskellig> i dont really know how init.d works
[08:11] <anirudhr> Dulak: What are the numbers there?
[08:11] <gskellig> so I was just taking a shot int he dark =P
[08:11] <theadmin> Meh, I like Arch's rc.d. Clean and simple.
[08:11] <gskellig> archlinux?
[08:11] <theadmin> gskellig: Yah
[08:11] <Dulak> 80 is the order you want it to stop, 1-99 being the options, the other numbers are the runlevels you want it to be stopped for, I listed them all
[08:11] <gskellig> meh
[08:12] <gskellig> anybody want to help me with my unity issue/
[08:12] <anirudhr> Dulak: Ah okay, cool.
[08:12] <anirudhr> gskellig: What is the issue?
[08:12] <gskellig> it wont start =/
[08:12] <gskellig> it worked fine on the live cd
[08:12] <gskellig> i choose "ubuntu" on login not classic
[08:12] <anirudhr> gskellig: I'm just curious, I am still on Lucid. I'm not liking the Unity jazz.
[08:12] <kdbwnf> I have enabled the "AllowNoPassword" but it still wants me to enter a password  to login and thus I cannot login because I have changed my password to ""
[08:13] <gskellig> unity works well with my small, widescreen monitor
[08:13] <dspace> gskellig: Try running unity --replace in a terminal and see if it gives you error messages?
[08:13] <theadmin> gskellig: Rather, "unity --replace &disown" so you can close the terminal later :D
[08:13] <anirudhr> gskellig: Are you able to run metacity?
[08:13] <gskellig> buncha errors
[08:13] <gskellig> it tries to run
[08:14] <kdbwnf> Hey unity is extremely mind mixing. Is there a way to have a theme like maverik?
[08:14] <EastDallas> gskellig: what kind of video chip do you have?
[08:14] <gskellig> Window created on XQueryTree, map state isViewable? 0
[08:14] <gskellig>  like 20 times
[08:14] <gskellig> EastDallas, two actually. the nvidia geforce g210M is disabled
[08:14] <gskellig> an intel on board one
[08:15] <gskellig> hold on
[08:15] <EastDallas> Why is the geforce disabled?  I imagine it would do a better job of supporting unity
[08:15] <gskellig> " Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:15] <gskellig> "
[08:15] <gskellig> because it eats battery life
[08:15] <gskellig> unity worked fine on the intel one before
[08:15] <Klavier> how can i run package manager, on console
[08:15] <Klavier> command line?
[08:15] <gskellig> so did HD video =/
[08:16] <theadmin> Klavier: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man8/apt-get.8.html
[08:17] <EastDallas> I just installed Natty on 2 pcs...I can only run gnome classic on the one with intel onboard video, but it runs fine on the one with an older ATI card....that's with the generic drivers
[08:17] <gskellig> but I was running unity fine for awhile on the livecd
[08:17] <gskellig> it was lightning fast
[08:17] <endgame> hello everyone this is my first time using XChat
[08:17] <RevSpecies116> Klavier - you mean apt-get?
[08:17] <EastDallas> With the geforce card disabled?
[08:17] <gskellig> yep
[08:18] <gskellig> what ubuntu does with my laptop is
[08:18] <EastDallas> That's my gut....
[08:18] <RevSpecies116> Klavier: sudo apt-get install <package name>
[08:18] <gskellig> it recognizes both graphics cards, and turns both on, but only uses the intel one
[08:18] <gskellig> nvidia one just eats power, unless you go into BIOS and turn OFF the intel one
[08:18] <EastDallas> Have you installed the proprietary drivers for the geforce card?
[08:18] <gskellig> nope, if i do that it'll try to use the nvidia card and intel one at the same time, and fail
[08:19] <gskellig> theres quite a bit of documentation of the dual graphics cards on this laptop
[08:19] <gskellig> nothing on unity though =(
[08:19] <EastDallas> There's a reason laptop manufacturers include the nvidia chip even though they are forced to have the intel graphics.  The intel graphics are weak.
[08:19] <Klavier> i want to add repo
[08:19] <Klavier> ppa:markus-tisoft/rt3090
[08:19] <gskellig> theres actually a laptop exactly like mine without the nvidia chip
[08:20] <theadmin> Klavier: Ah. sudo add-apt-repository "ppa:markus-tisoft/rt3090"
[08:20] <gskellig> but yeah i agree, the intel graphics are weak
[08:20] <Klavier> okay
[08:20] <EastDallas> I would disable the intel graphics and...
[08:21] <EastDallas> does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg still work?
[08:21] <EastDallas> that's a general question, and I might have th command wrong.
[08:21] <EastDallas> Buth that's how you used to reconfigure the graphics from the command line.
[08:21] <endgame> how do you get to the c++ room?
[08:22] <theadmin> endgame: /join #c++ I suppose.
[08:22] <RevSpecies116> Klavier - Ubuntu 10.04LTS+
[08:22] <gskellig> I would really like to have the battery savings from using the intel card instead of the nvidia one, and I know it's possible since I had it with the livecd
[08:22] <EastDallas> Actually, that is the correct command.
[08:22] <endgame> in the prompt box that i am typing in??
[08:22] <gskellig> and i had it with 11.04 wubi, before i switched to "real" ubuntu
[08:22] <theadmin> endgame: In the same place you type messages.
[08:22] <endgame> thank you
[08:23] <Klavier> not worked
[08:23] <gskellig> the command works, but nothin ghappens
[08:23] <Klavier> i dont have command like add-apt-repository
[08:23] <RevSpecies116> sudo apt-add-repository <name of repository>
[08:23] <EastDallas> restart X or reboot
[08:23] <RevSpecies116> apt goes before add
[08:23] <Klavier> ok
[08:23] <olsingle> ?
[08:24] <olsingle> what is this?
[08:24] <theadmin> olsingle: "this" can refer to very many things, what do you mean?
[08:24] <EastDallas> olsingle: what's whta?
[08:24] <EastDallas> what?
[08:25] <RevSpecies116> Any joy, Klavier ?
[08:25] <Klavier> no not worked
[08:25] <Klavier> iam using backtrack-linux
[08:25] <Klavier> based ubuntu
[08:25] <theadmin> Klavier: We don't support backtrack.
[08:25] <theadmin> !backtrack | Klavier
[08:25] <Klavier> okay sorry
[08:28] <EastDallas> gskellig: that has to be run as sudo
[08:28] <Ilea> why i cant conect to the internet via DSL in kubuntu? after i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to conect to it
[08:28] <gskellig> it was EastDallas
[08:29] <EastDallas> gskellig: did you restart X?
[08:29] <gskellig> think so. screen flsahed black for a bit
[08:29] <gskellig> maybe ill reboot
[08:29] <EastDallas> Does anyone know how I can disable the screenshot when you hit "print Screen"?
[08:29] <EastDallas> gskellig: do that
[08:30] <EastDallas> My backspace and print screen keys are much too close together, and I keep creating screenshots, or at least getting the dialogue
[08:30] <gskellig> brb then
[08:31] <Ilea> please does anybody know why in kubuntu i cant conect to the internet with DSL and afer i configure it it dosnt apear in the list to choose it?
[08:31] <Dulak> EastDallas: should be able to disable the key combo in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[08:31] <Ilea> now i am on another distro
[08:31] <EastDallas> Dulak: thanks
[08:31] <Ilea> but i want kubuntu
[08:32] <EastDallas> Ilea: are you connected to a router, or directly to the modem?
[08:32] <Ilea> no i dont have router
[08:32] <Ilea> not even modem
[08:33] <Ilea> strange is that at wired conections the list is empty and there shoud be eth0
[08:33] <theadmin> Ilea: Does "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" have any effect?
[08:34] <Ilea> dont know but i will write this and try
[08:34] <EastDallas> Ilea: exactly how are you connecting via dsl with no router or modem?
[08:34] <theadmin> EastDallas: Could be PPPoE
[08:34] <EastDallas> Ilea: Mine doesn't show any interfaces either unless I launch the app as sudo.
[08:34] <pedrocr> does anyone know where to find a list of the packages that are installed by default on a fresh installation of natty?
[08:35] <EastDallas> theadmin: she'd still have to have a router or some other sort of adsl interface
[08:35] <Ilea> the cable is directlu conected to the computer
[08:35] <EastDallas> not router, modem
[08:35] <Flannel> pedrocr: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.manifest
[08:35] <Ilea> and i am conecting to DSL pppoe
[08:35] <Ilea> username
[08:35] <Ilea> pasword
[08:35] <openshell> from provider direct to your pc?
[08:35] <theadmin> pedrocr: dpkg --get-selections
[08:35] <EastDallas> Ilea: ok, so you have an internal dsl modem?
[08:35] <Ilea> yes
[08:35] <EastDallas> OK
[08:35] <Flannel> pedrocr: That's all of the packages that make up the LiveCD image, which is more or less identical to default install.
[08:35] <pedrocr> Flannel, thanks
[08:35] <Ilea> i have only my ethernet card
[08:36] <pedrocr> theadmin, that gives me my selections, I wanted the default ones
[08:36] <EastDallas> ilea, OK, what does the other end of the cable plug into?
[08:36] <theadmin> pedrocr: You said it's a fresh install, so that'd be equal
[08:36] <Ilea> no internal modem or something
[08:36] <EastDallas> Internal dsl modems are very unusual.  Are you sure that's what you have?
[08:36] <Ilea> with pclinuxos dsl works
[08:36] <pedrocr> theadmin, what I meant was "were you to do a fresh install what packages would be installed"
[08:37] <gul> kernal bug at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.3.8/fs/encryptfs/crypto.c:349!
[08:37] <pedrocr> theadmin, I don't have a fresh install right now
[08:37] <theadmin> pedrocr: Ah, I see.
[08:37] <theadmin> Ilea: PCLOS does network management weirdly. But I have a bunch of scripts which can help
[08:37] <Ilea> the cable comes from outside, in the house and conected directly
[08:37] <CokeMD> Has anyone here had experience with installing linux on hardware with 64MB?
[08:37] <EastDallas> Ilea: what country are you in?
[08:37] <Ilea> Romania
[08:38] <CokeMD> RAM i mean
[08:38] <EastDallas> OK, I'm not familiar with the standards they use there....sorry.
[08:38] <gul> CokeMD: u can go for DSL and puppylinux
[08:38] <openshell> CokeMD have tried Damn Small Linux
[08:39] <pedrocr> Flannel, I see "popularity-contest" there, is it installed but not enabled by default?
[08:39] <Ilea> i tried with the pppoe-setup in terminal but it sad something about a pakage mising
[08:39] <CokeMD> I've tried Damn Small Linux, I've actually got it installed, but rendering windows are really slow.
[08:39] <EastDallas> obviously, it's something we don't have (commonly) in the US.  Here, even with pppoe, you have to have a dsl modem or router with adsl wick
[08:39] <Dulak> CokeMD: most of them require 128m, even the smallest ones
[08:39] <EastDallas> obviously I don't understand it
[08:39] <CokeMD> I'm trying to enable 2D accelrations but it's really complicated
[08:39] <gul> system drops to command line like screen with lots of errors . One of them is --- kernal bug at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.3.8/fs/encryptfs/crypto.c:349!
[08:39] <EastDallas> that came out wrong
[08:40] <Ilea> is there any way i could find to download kubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 ?
[08:40] <Ilea> those will work maybe
[08:40] <DJones> CokeMD: This might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[08:40] <theadmin> Ilea: Just a second, please.
[08:41] <Ilea> ok
[08:41] <theadmin> Ilea: Grab this:
[08:41] <theadmin> Damn
[08:41] <Ilea> grab what?:)
[08:41] <gul> system drops to command line like screen with lots of errors . One of them is --- kernal bug at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.3.8/fs/encryptfs/crypto.c:349! Solution?
[08:41] <DJones> CokeMD: But I'm not sure how old that web page is, it does refer to needing updating for 10.04 so probably quite old
[08:42] <theadmin> Ilea: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/pppoe-setup.tgz
[08:42] <theadmin> Ilea: Then run: sudo tar xvf pppoe-setup.tgz -C /
[08:42] <Dulak> Ilea: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/lucid/
[08:42] <theadmin> Ilea: Next, run "sudo pppoe-setup" to configure your connection, you should be fine from there :)
[08:42] <Ilea> ok but i am a beginer with targz files
[08:44] <gul> system drops to blacks-screen with lots of errors . One of them is --- kernal bug at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.3.8/fs/encryptfs/crypto.c:349! Solution?
[08:45] <theadmin> !repeat | gul
[08:45] <Ilea> thanks theadmin
[08:45] <Ilea> :)
[08:45] <mistergibson> anyone know of a channel devoted to net security in general?
[08:46] <theadmin> Ilea: Did it work?
[08:47] <Ilea> yes
[08:47] <Obubba> anyone: I want to do a new install instead of upgrading. How do I wipe the old and install the new?
[08:48] <dooglus> I'm trying Unity for the first time since 11.04 was released.  where do I find the settings manager, to set stuff like focus-follows-mouse, gtk theme, etc?
[08:48] <mistergibson> anyone: I'm looking for a good net security channel (noob here)
[08:48] <theadmin> Obubba: Reformat while installing?
[08:48] <theadmin> Ilea: Glad to be of help :)
[08:48] <Obubba> But I got Windows too
[08:49] <Ilea> :)
[08:49] <theadmin> Obubba: *shrug* reformat only the Linux partition
[08:49] <Obubba> theadmin: ok, so I use the livecd to format the linux partition and then install?
[08:49] <theadmin> Obubba: Yep.
[08:50] <pinoyoragon> Why is that i can't click on anything after screensaver activates and stops in ubuntu 11.04 (unity)?
[08:50] <armour> dooglus: On the upper right corner. Hit the power icon, a menu will scroll down. Chose System Settings
[08:50] <Obubba> theadmin: How transfer the bookmarks and passwords from Opera and Firefox to the new install?
[08:51] <EastDallas> pinoyoragon: I have the same problem...I just disabled my screensaver and changed power settings to shut the monitor off in a shorter amount of time
[08:51] <theadmin> Obubba: Hm, as for Firefox it's the /home/YOURNAME/.mozilla folder. No idea about Opera, never used that
[08:51] <CokeMD> thanks djones
[08:51] <EastDallas> pinoyoragon: I know it's not a fix, but screensavers aren't so necessary as they used to be with CRTs
[08:52] <theadmin> Hey, I still have one of those (CRTs) around xD
[08:52] <Obubba> theadmin: thanks
[08:53] <pinoyoragon> EastDallas: oic yeah ur right, im using lcd anyways
[08:53] <pinoyoragon> EastDallas:still we all should find/make the fix for this :D
[08:53] <dah42> Is it possible to activate and deactivate the wireless part of my router from a console command?
[08:54] <EastDallas> pinoyoragon: I'm checking launchpad for abug report now
[08:54] <EastDallas> dah42: what brand of router?
[08:54] <llutz_> dah42: depends on your routers firmware
[08:54] <theadmin> dah42: Only if your router allows you to ssh in
[08:54] <dah42> thanks for the answers, its an italian bundled router, I will check if it allows ssh
[08:55] <theadmin> dah42: If not, check whether you can install dd-wrt on it :D
[08:55] <gul> system drops to blacks-screen with lots of errors . One of them is --- kernel bug at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.3.8/fs/encryptfs/crypto.c:349! Solution?
[08:55] <mistergibson> theadmin: can you recommend a good starting point net security channel?
[08:55] <dah42> theadmin, I have it in leasing, I guess I can't modify the firmware :D
[08:55] <theadmin> mistergibson: If I could I'd say, no point to annoy me :/
[08:55] <EastDallas> dah42: or telnet
[08:55] <mistergibson> theadmin: sorry -- didn't know if you were just busy
[08:56] <theadmin> mistergibson: I always reply if I know.
[08:56] <dah42> only port 80 is open
[08:56] <mistergibson> theadmin: got it :)
[08:56] <EastDallas> dah42: does it need to be done via command line?  does your router have a web interface?
[08:56] <theadmin> dah42: Well fsck :/ Bad router
[08:56] <EastDallas> pinoyoragon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/762058
[08:57] <dah42> EastDallas, it have a web interface, but I wanted a console command to use it with cron \ gnome-schedule to set it on in precise times of the day
[08:57] <dah42> I guess its not possible with just a web interface, am I right?
[08:57] <EastDallas> dah42: got it
[08:57] <EastDallas> dah42: probably not
[08:57] <theadmin> dah42: Your web interface might allow to modify router's crontab.
[08:57] <marke> hi, is this where I can come for help with a print-server problem on a 6.10 ubuntu server?
[08:57] <mistergibson> anyone: is anyone else getting high cpu load from indicator-datetime-* ?
[08:57] <EastDallas> dah42: there's not brand name on the bottom of the router or anything?
[08:57] <aran> hi
[08:58] <theadmin> marke: 6.10 is unsupported, sorry.
[08:58] <aran> i'm having troubles running opencl application on my pc
[08:58] <marke> :(
[08:58] <danmichel> so this it it huh? either unity or gnome 3? those are the main choices? i mean, kde is obviously not a choice at all. anything else out there?
[08:58] <marke> anywhere else I might get some help?
[08:58] <Dulak> dah42: you can use curl or wget to post anything you like to the admin webpage of your router, it's just figuring out what it needs that's the pain in the butt
[08:58] <aran> i've ubuntu 11.04 with a gtx 260
[08:58] <dah42> theadmin, my web interface is dumb-proof, so no fancy options like that sadly... Brand name? Alice Gate Voip Plus
[08:58] <DJones> !classic | danmichel
[08:58] <EastDallas> danmichel: xcfe
[08:58] <mr_daniel> I installed Adobe PDF Reader (acroread) some day ago and it asked me if I would set acroread as the default PDF viewer. Unfortunately I pressed yes. How can I switch back to evince?
[08:58] <EastDallas> danmichel: xubuntu
[08:58] <theadmin> danmichel: KDE is a choice, and an awesome one
[08:59] <theadmin> danmichel: Don't you dare offend KDE :/
[08:59] <DJones> marke: Have you considered upgrading from 6.10?
[08:59] <danmichel> hmmm, EastDallas , i can give xcfe another go
[08:59] <dah42> Dulak, the other problem is that the firmare auto-updates from my ISP
[08:59] <dah42> trough the adsl
[08:59] <theadmin> danmichel: Well, if you want something really lightweight, give E17 and Openbox a go
[08:59] <gul> my /home folder is encrypted. How to change it back to normal?
[09:00] <danmichel> are any of those like ACTIVELY developed?
[09:00] <davidw> any ideas why cron would have 'stopped working' after an upgrade to 10.04 ? by 'not working' I mean scripts don't seem to be getting run
[09:00] <DJones> marke: 6.10 hasn't been supported for 3 years now so you won't have had (as a minimum) any security updates for 3 years
[09:00] <EastDallas> dah42: http://www.ilpuntotecnicoeadsl.com/wiki/index.php?title=Alice_Gate_VoIP_2_Plus_Wi-Fi_(Pirelli_Broadband_Solutions)
[09:01] <EastDallas> dah42: It looks like it allows telnet to me
[09:01] <EastDallas> but I don't speak italian
[09:01] <EastDallas> :)
[09:01] <armour> Hi all. Looking for some advice. I am planning to try Node.js. I ready Ringo.Js is more robust. But Node is fast. So I am a bit confused what would be the best for learning to use the front/backend?
[09:01] <marke> Djones: Yup. planning to on server, have done on desktops - was hoping to fix print-server function temporarily for now till I get time to have server offline while I upgrade it ...
[09:01] <armour> I am installing it on Natty
[09:01] <dah42> EastDallas, 1) thanks for the free googling :D    2) I am checking the link, but I just port-scanned the router and just 80\443\netbios were open
[09:01] <mr_daniel> Found it: right-click on an arbitrar PDF document, Open-with tab, select the PDF reader you like. Finish.
[09:01] <theadmin> armour: That's not really an Ubuntu question either way
[09:02] <EastDallas> dah42: it tells you how to enable it on the web page...
[09:02] <dah42> EastDallas, I am checking, you can't imagine how useful you was :D
[09:02] <armour> alright
[09:02] <bourne> hia
[09:02] <bourne> hai
[09:03] <paulhar> 11.04. System boots but screen is out of resolution, can get into text mode via alt-f2. grub_gfxmode=1024x768 set and can see grub, in terminal I see failsafeXInit is running with an xorg.conf.failsafe. Cannot figure out how to fix screen resolution. Any suggestions? nvidia gfx card.
[09:03] <EastDallas> dah42: it's amazing what googling the name of your router in quotes plus the word telnet will get you :p
[09:04] <EastDallas> I guess they guy who was rebooting 30 minutes ago to see if he could get unity to work is not coming back :)
[09:04] <danmichel> brb
[09:05] <wasas> Hello! I'm tryign to install 11.04 from a USB stick, onto a USB hdd.   Every time I try to install it goes fine, see's th drive and copys everything over.      BUTTTT!   it tries to install grub, and fails.     error is grub-install /dev/sdb/ failed       Can anyone PM me some ideas?     when trying to run the same command from bash i get a warning about a is09xxx drive format,    and then something about being unable to load AUFS      Thanks!
[09:07] <ack> hey, dumb question: after installing updates yesterday my ubuntu machine freezes on boot. Now I want to enable verbose bootup but esc doesn't bring up grub and only sometimes lets me look behind the splash screen. Am I missing something?
[09:07] <EastDallas> wasas: have you tried treating your usb hdd like a usb stick and just making it that way?
[09:07] <DJones> ack: Its left shift to get to the grub menu at boot
[09:07] <gul> wasas: check md5sum for your install media
[09:07] <EastDallas> btw...don't know if it would work
[09:09] <wasas> EastDallas, no I havent.   would rather install to it if at all possible
[09:10] <EastDallas> wasas: I carry a usb stick around that retains all my files and settings...works just like a true install as far as I can tell.
[09:11] <Jordan_U> EastDallas: It will break if you try to upgrade it as the kernel cannot be upgraded, among other things.
[09:11] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | wasas
[09:11] <EastDallas> Jordan_U: true.  It breaks if you install grub updates...so I just never install them.
[09:12] <EastDallas> Jordan_U: I've never tried to upgrade one
[09:12] <pinoyoragon> After applying the "Bumblebee" solution (Optimus issue), how will i know my NVIDIA card is deactivated and only the integrated Intel card is active?
[09:15] <danny_> i honestly have no idea why i'm getting 'an error occurred while mounting' when i boot. pretty much all my extra drives. it's weird, because a couple of the gpt ones will mount; one gpt might not. and a couple of the ntfs ones will mount; and a couple won't. it's like totally random. google is no help. on ubuntu 10.10. any ideas?
[09:18] <alessandro_> ciao a tutti
[09:18] <SyL> I'm trying to install sun-java-jdk and I can't get it to stop configure after running apt-get.
[09:18] <theadmin> !italian | alessandro_
[09:18] <SyL> any ideas?
[09:18] <alessandro_> ho un probleminno con Ubuntu ( interfaccia gnome) c'è qualcuno ?
[09:19] <alessandro_> ok Thanks
[09:19] <zeroXmalice> Uhm. Apparently pulse makes my game crash. Do I have pulse, and it says not to use OSS4 on the /community/OpenSound page and im thinkng about ignoring it, is that stupid.
[09:21] <ack> DJones: Thanks! Since I got that one wrong I'm probably messing up the next one too. When in grub now I add nosplash debug --verbose and hit F10. Now it starts out as verbose then goes purple and freezes
[09:22] <SyL> I'm trying to install sun-java-jdk and I can't get it to stop configure after running apt-get. any ideas?
[09:23] <DJones> ack: Sorry, I'm not that good with grub, thankfully I've not had problems myself
[09:24] <paulhar> Having disabled X failsafe I now see on boot "Starting GNOME Display Manager [ OK ]" and the next line below is "Starting GNOME Display Manager [fail]". Manually running "sudo service gdm start" immediately returns "gdm stop/waiting" and nothing else. Any suggestions on how to get forward progress?
[09:25] <ack> DJones: Ok, thanks anyway :)
[09:27] <Obubba> How do I make sure nobody is logging on Remote Desktop and spying on me?
[09:27] <endgame> i am new to linux and a computer science major.. can anyone PLEASE give me some ideas to learn linux system and computer science
[09:27] <Arm0ur> endgame: Start using one.
[09:28] <endgame> i have been programming in c++ for about 1 year now.
[09:28] <f0rfr33> endgame, exactly liek Arm0ur said, while using it, try comparing it to windows
[09:28] <endgame> i am on a ubuntu system right now
[09:28] <f0rfr33> endgame, what do you wish to know?
[09:28] <oCean> endgame: this channel is for ubuntu support only, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:29] <endgame> i will try that channel
[09:29] <Arm0ur> endgame: Talk with fellow users, frequent IRC, have a passion for the OS, try to sort out out mess yourselves - You'll be flying in no time !
[09:29] <endgame> i was to build my own OS sometime down the road
[09:29] <theadmin> endgame: Heh... Not too hard.
[09:30] <endgame> kernel bootloader and everything from the ground up
[09:30] <oCean> endgame: drop the discussion please
[09:30] <theadmin> endgame: Oh. That's harder.
[09:30] <f0rfr33> endgame, although I like the talk, like oCean said, this isn't the proper channel, try #Linux
[09:30] <f0rfr33> but yes, making an OS from the bottom isn't easy
[09:30] <f0rfr33> neither a 1 person task
[09:31] <Jordan_U> wasas: Could you run boot info script as explained by ubottu and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:34] <SyL> I'm using ubuntu in Amazon EC2 and I can't seem to install sun-java because I can't agree to the license. any suggestions?
[09:34] <ack> After installing updates last night boot freezes. Have managed to get some kind of boot output now and the last thing I see before the screen goes black is cups. Any ideas?
[09:34] <slepy> hi
[09:35] <slepy> where is LEMKE ?
[09:35] <slepy> LEMKE IS DEAD!
[09:35] <oCean> slepy: do you have a support question?
[09:35] <oCean> guess not
[09:37] <endgame> i am using ubuntu 10.04 how would i set it so i would boot into terminal not booting into desktop (GUI)
[09:39] <Arm0ur> endgame: You would have to edit /etc/inittab
[09:40] <theadmin> lol, Ubuntu without a GUI is pointless
[09:40] <petrolman> lol, Ubuntu without a GUI is a server
[09:40] <theadmin> petrolman: Servers must be stable AFAIK.
[09:40] <petrolman> use ubuntu lts
[09:41] <theadmin> petrolman: Not up-to-date software then
[09:41] <SyL> any idea how to skip the "agree to license" part of installing sun java 6?
[09:42] <incorrect> is there anyway to make the global menu always appear at the top, i don't care that it says i am using applicatino X,  i just want to get to the menu
[09:42] <phaidros> with dpkg-reconfigure console-data I can set the keyboard for a running session (all console based, no X), but after reboot it is reverted back, how can I set kbd language persistantly for the console?
[09:42] <Joakim__> Can't seem to get realtek sound of natty
[09:42] <decape> hello is the any hacking games on ubuntu 10.04
[09:42] <theadmin> decape: Hm, Uplink?
[09:43] <petrolman> theadmin, I still administrate servers with debian sarge :-)
[09:43] <phaidros> petrolman: brave!
[09:44] <llutz_> !runlevel | Arm0ur
[09:44] <Arm0ur> ubottu: Thanks for pointing that out
[09:44] <phaidros> where is the default keyboard language defined ? (not X, just console!)
[09:45] <llutz_> !nox  | endgame
[09:45] <theadmin> phaidros: You can always add something like "setxkbmap us" in your bashrc.
[09:45] <theadmin> Owait
[09:45] <theadmin> *facepalm*
[09:45] <Patryk1023> hey! I'm a newbee in Ubuntu 11.04 and I want to change the GNOME to Unity. How to do it?
[09:45] <phaidros> theadmin: there is an X in your command, not having that on a noX machine :)
[09:46] <phaidros> which darn package or setting in /etc defines the default keyboard language?
[09:46] <phaidros> just cant find it :)
[09:46] <llutz_> dpg-reconfigure console-data
[09:47] <phaidros> "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" is no persistent after boot
[09:48] <phaidros> llutz_: how to make that persistent?
[09:49] <llutz_> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup    should do
[09:49] <SyL> is there a way to override the "dpkg --configure -a"?
[09:50] <VxQe> Hey if I want to backup my entire disk including partitions, what is the best way to do that.
[09:50] <VxQe> Preferably something better/faster than DD.
[09:50] <phaidros> llutz_: console-setup is not about keyboard, just charsets and fonts ..
[09:51] <phaidros> was there before :)
[09:51] <phaidros> but where in /etc is the kbd set?
[09:51] <phaidros> must be somewhere ...
[09:51] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: you want to do what exactly?
[09:52] <Patryk1023> jpverdoorn: change GNOME to Unity to have a look there
[09:53] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: Well, if you're using Ubuntu 11.04 out of the box you should already have Unity by default
[09:53] <danmichel>  /msg NickServ identify hacksit
[09:53] <SyL> whoops...
[09:53] <danmichel> yikes
[09:53] <danmichel> haha
[09:53] <danmichel> that sucked
[09:53] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: Do you mean you want to try GNOME Shell?
[09:53] <SyL> does anybody see what I am typing at least?
[09:53] <farrukhjon1> is there anyone use eclipse in Ubuntu...
[09:53] <Patryk1023> jpverdoorn: yeah
[09:53] <phaidros> SyL: are you typing?
[09:53] <llutz_> phaidros: ever tried console-setup?
[09:54] <SyL> phaidros: I guess so. nobody was answering me, I was worried...
[09:54] <petrolman> fahadsadah_, I m using Eclipse 3.6
[09:55] <phaidros> llutz_: console-setup is no command, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup lets you configure charset and console font size etc. but not the kbd language.
[09:55] <phaidros> as I said above.
[09:55] <phaidros> :)
[09:55] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: GNOME 3 (required to run GNOME Shell) isn't supported in Natty, and breaks Unity. I wouldn't recommend trying it, 'cause even if you get GNOME 3 to work, the results will look bad.
[09:55] <llutz_> phaidros: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup    is what i meant. it asks for kbd-layout and language
[09:55] <phaidros> llutz_: "dpkg-reconfoigure console-data" does the job, but not persistend after reboot ..
[09:56] <llutz_> at least here with 10.10
[09:56] <Patryk1023> jpverdoorn: so wait to Ubuntu 11.10, yeah?
[09:56] <Stockholm_Angel> du bor i stockholm? och är du en kivinor?
[09:56] <dooglus> how do I turn off focus-follows-mouse in unity?  I can't get to the menu bar at the top of the screen before it switches to a different app
[09:56] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: If you insist on trying on trying it you can check out this post on AskUbuntu for instructions how to install and remove GNOME Shell: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[09:56] <danmichel> i use hfsprogs to read and write to hfsplus partitions on ubuntu. any way to auto-mount those via fstab to read write?  i tried /dev/sda2	/media/os_x	hfsprogs	defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[09:56] <exalt> hello, i just wanted to update and i got an error about a bind-9.0 untrusted package
[09:57] <jpverdoorn> Patryk1023: And yes I think you should wait ;)
[09:57] <exalt> can i just update bind-9.0 ?
[09:57] <dooglus> exalt: probably just 'sudo apt-get update' will fix it
[09:57] <phaidros> llutz_: with 11.04 I get first aske for charset (choose utf8), then character set (I choose combind-latin), the console font (I choose fixed) and then console font size (I leave it at 16), then it regenerates initrd.img .. but nothing about keyboard layout in that dialog .. are you sure it does it in 10.10?
[09:58] <llutz_> phaidros: i am, since i actually use 10.10 and just tested it
[09:58] <phaidros> llutz_: darn, regressions all over the place .. grrr
[09:59] <phaidros> llutz_: so, what do I do now, lol
[10:03] <danmichel> i use hfsprogs to read and write to hfsplus partitions on ubuntu. any way to auto-mount those via fstab to read write?  i tried /dev/sda2	/media/os_x	hfsprogs	defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[10:04] <Jordan_U> danmichel: The filesystem type is hfsplus, not hfsprogs.
[10:04] <danmichel> oh, i see
[10:04] <danmichel> brb then Jordan_U
[10:04] <danmichel> i figured since the others said ntfs-3g...
[10:04] <danmichel> brb
[10:06] <oCean> lilstevie: Your ZNC is set to change your nickname when you disconnect from it. This is against Ubuntu's IRC Guidelines and is rather annoying; please disable this feature.
[10:09] <_NINJA> whp_,..
[10:09] <whp_> 你好
[10:09] <radoen> hi
[10:10] <radoen> i've trouble with apt-get
[10:10] <Jordan_U> !cn | whp_
[10:10] <radoen> after any opertation i recive this message
[10:11] <radoen> dpkg: warning: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 42312 package 'amaya':
[10:11] <radoen>  error in string Version "wx-11.3.1-1": version number does not start with digit
[10:11] <radoen> how can I solved?
[10:11] <radoen> *solve
[10:12] <llutz_> radoen: 3rd party repo? write a bug-report to the maintainer
[10:12] <whp_> join #ubuntu -cn
[10:12] <radoen> llutz: i've not 3rd part repo
[10:12] <llutz_> !info amaya
[10:13] <radoen> this is amaya
[10:13] <radoen> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
[10:13] <radoen> but i've removed before upgrading to
[10:13] <patCork> any ops on here
[10:13] <patCork> ?
[10:13] <oCean> patCork: try #ubuntu-ops
[10:13] <llutz_> radoen: why didn't you use the ubuntu-deb?
[10:14] <EClaesson> This is not really a ubuntu question but.. In linux/Unix generally configuration for programs are stored i .cfg files or .-files or similar. This is nice as i can edit them with any text editor. But right now i'm working on a program that will hold a rather large ammount of config data, and for this i'm using sqlite. Is it a bad thing in a linux user's eye that they can not edit it from outside the program itself?
[10:14] <theadmin> EClaesson: Well, one can edit sqlite databases with sqlite, so it's fine
[10:14] <radoen> llutz: ???
[10:14] <EClaesson> theadmin: Great. Thanks :)
[10:15] <radoen> amaya was installed from a .deb
[10:15] <llutz_> radoen: yes, a deb built for debian witha broken name.
[10:15] <radoen> this one amaya_11.3.1-2-ubuntu_amd64.deb
[10:15] <Polah> radoen, are you running a 64-bit system or 32-bit?
[10:16] <radoen> 64bit OS
[10:16] <incorrect> is it possible to always show the application's menu?
[10:18] <radoen> so what i've to do to solve the problem?
[10:18] <radoen> amaya is not installed yet
[10:19] <pratz> hey guys i am trying to install mp4 but getting an error
[10:20] <Polah> pratz: What do you mean trying to install MP4? What package are you installing?
[10:20] <theadmin> pratz: wait, wut?
[10:21] <pratz> Polah: theadmin: http://gpac.wp.institut-telecom.fr/2011/04/20/compiling-gpac-on-ubuntu/   this is the package i am trying to install
[10:22] <mzuverink> I am currently using classic gnome, if I switch to try Unity will it retain my classic gnome panel setting and such?
[10:22] <pratz> Polah: but as i do not have root access i am trying to compile it in my home directory
[10:22] <Polah> pratz: Use sudo...
[10:22] <ack> some times on boot when doingleft shift it says GRUB LOADING... and then normal boot starts. what gives?
[10:22] <pratz> Polah: http://eitwebguru.com/how-to-install-mp4box-on-linux-server/ to do that i am following
[10:22] <Polah> mzuverink, when I did it briefly, I had my panel icons and stuff, albeit in a different place.
[10:22] <radoen> none can help me?
[10:22] <pratz> Polah: i do not have supre user powers , i am on webfaction shared hosting
[10:23] <arag0rn> hey I downloaded the gcc-4.5.2 sources for natty
[10:23] <arag0rn> is ther anyway to apply the debian patches cleanly
[10:23] <Polah> pratz: You're trying to install program to transcode video files into mp4 containers?
[10:23] <arag0rn> now most of them seem to be failing
[10:23] <arag0rn> I've tried make -f debian/rules patch
[10:23] <mzuverink> Polah, when I did it in beta I had no panels at all when came back to classic gnome, that is why I asked
[10:24] <Polah> mzuverink, can't help you there, sorry.
[10:24] <pratz> Polah: as somewhat like that, my friends team require this package
[10:24] <Polah> Pratz: If you're on shared webhosting then chances are you don't have the necessary permissions to compile or even run it.
[10:25] <Polah> Pratz: Consider getting your friend to install it on his own computer and then he can convert them and upload to the site.
[10:25] <pratz> Polah: that means i can not install it on this machine
[10:25] <Polah> pratz: Most probably, yes.
[10:26] <llutz_> radoen: sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[10:26] <pratz> Polah: you mean to say , first compile it on my local mahcine and then the compiled directory should be host on webfaction ??
[10:26] <radoen> llutz: no output after the comand
[10:27] <Polah> pratz: No. Like I said, you probably won't be able to compile it on the site, and you almost certainly won't be able to run it.
[10:27] <llutz_> radoen: nice, "dpkg -l"  still warinings?
[10:27] <llutz_> warnings*
[10:27] <Polah> Pratz: Consider a VPS for more freedom for what you're trying to do.
[10:28] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[10:28] <radoen> -l came back the installed packages list
[10:28] <pratz> Polah: what you mean to convert and then upload ??
[10:28] <llutz_> radoen: still with warnings?
[10:29] <radoen> no no warning only
[10:29] <radoen> info
[10:29] <Polah> pratz: Your friend can install MP4Box on his computer, use it on the video files to get them in MP4, and then upload and store them on the website which I assume is your end goal
[10:29] <llutz_> radoen: so issue should be fixed
[10:29] <radoen> ok, now i'll try to install something
[10:33] <utnubu> How do i save the output (for example from ls -LR /proc) to a file "backup.X.log" where X the day of the week is?
[10:35] <llutz_> utnubu: ls -l > text-$(date '+%a').log
[10:36] <pratz> Polah: hey it is automated and is somewhat an online tool
[10:37] <utnubu> llutz, thank you so much
[10:44] <ack> more questions ;): I can boot into runlevel 5 in command line and when i issue startx everything locks up. Can I get the output of that command somehow?
[10:45] <linux_hacks> ack: nope... startx launches a process and you would be out of terminal mode
[10:46] <llutz_> ack: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.*)
[10:47] <oCean> ack: sure you can. Redirect the output like so   startx > /tmp/startx.out 2>&1   to catch both stdout and stderr. Once gui is started, you still should be able to access /tmp/startx.out file
[10:48] <ack> llutz_: I can see now that my xorg.conf was changed last night when I shutdown
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> I did an update in Lubuntu and now I cannot get Flashplayer to work again.  Any ideas?
[10:49] <ack> oCean: Ofcourse.. facepalm.. Thanks :)
[10:49] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: Is it on firefox?
[10:49] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Chrome.
[10:49] <_Neytiri_> i am getting a weird file in a home directory
[10:49] <_Neytiri_> d?????????  ? ?             ?                 ?                ? .gvfs
[10:49] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: do you see plugins in plugin window?
[10:50] <_Neytiri_> even as root i cant look at it
[10:50] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Where do I find that?  I checked under preferences and see nothing about plugins.
[10:51] <linux_hacks> _Neytiri_: you won't see anything.. unless you do any remote accessing
[10:52] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: type chrome://plugins and check
[10:52] <_Neytiri_> i am remoted into the machine via ssh and it su'd up and i camt mess with the file
[10:52] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: No Flashplayer listed there, just a few ie. Gecko, etc.
[10:54] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:54] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: I did that earlier... it said that the most current version was already installed.
[10:55] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: try running the command locate libflashplayer.so
[10:55] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: I did that, nothing.
[10:55] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: Is it 32bit or 64bit?
[10:55] <rhin0> sudo reboot -rF doesn't run fsck on reboot -- anyone know how to get a fsck to run on reboot (11.04)
[10:55] <Ascavasaion> 32bit
[10:55] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: 32 bit
[10:56] <llutz_> rhin0: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now
[10:56] <rhin0> ok thanks will try
[10:56] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: Download the flash player from adobe site.. and copy libflashplayer.so file to /opt/google/chrome/plugins
[10:56] <llutz_> rhin0: shutdown is broken due to upstart, so -f/-F doesn't work anymore in ubuntu
[10:58] <wasas> Hello! I'm tryign to install 11.04 from a USB stick, onto a USB hdd.   Every time I try to install it goes fine, see's th drive and copys everything over.      BUTTTT!   it tries to install grub, and fails.     error is grub-install /dev/sda/ failed       Can anyone PM me some ideas?     when trying to run the same command from bash i get a warning about a is09xxx drive format,    and then something about being unable to load AUFS      Thanks!
[10:59] <sz_> Hi all! I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS and look for a way to disable all keyboard and mouse input on the system (GNOME and console). Googled for it, but found no working solutions. Any ideas?
[10:59] <rhin0> llutz_ that didn't run fsck
[10:59] <linux_hacks> sz_: you want to disable mouse and keyboard.. same time?
[10:59] <sz_> "sudo modprobe -r usbhid" disables USB, that's OK, but what about PS2?
[11:00] <sz_> linux_hacks: Yes.
[11:00] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: It wants me to select an application to open the APT file.
[11:00] <llutz_> rhin0: it should have done....
[11:00] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: download *.tar.gz file
[11:00] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Aaaaha.
[11:00] <linux_hacks> sz_: but why do you need such a case?
[11:01] <sz_> linux_hacks: 2 PCs next to each other, main one with synergy, so I need no keyboard/mouse on 2nd PC. Need to let screen unlocked, so want to disable keyboard/mouse.
[11:01] <dooglus> rhin0: use tune2fs to tell it the drive has been mounted lots of times without an fsck
[11:01] <dooglus> rhin0: then reboot
[11:02] <rhin0> ok thanks dooglus
[11:02] <dooglus> rhin0: assuming it's an ext4 format
[11:02] <dooglus> rhin0: something like: "sudo tune2fs -C 100 /dev/sda"
[11:03] <dooglus> or /dev/sda1 I mean - the device with the filesystem on it
[11:03] <sz_> linux_hacks: I guess somehow blacklisting USB/PS2 input would be the best solution. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a working way to do just that.
[11:03] <linux_hacks> sz_ :http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux
[11:03] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Okay, it is downloaded.  Now what do I do witht he tar.gz file?
[11:04] <sz_> linux_hacks: Found that already. Only works with already existing devices. If I plug in a new one, it would circumvent this.
[11:04] <llutz_> rhin0: "grep -i forcefsck /etc/init/mountall.conf"   any output?
[11:04] <linux_hacks> open the tar file
[11:04] <linux_hacks> sz_: Oh.. then I'm not aware of
[11:04] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: do you see libflashplayer.so  file
[11:05] <sz_> linux_hacks: Then I tried HAL blacklisting - created /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe/blacklist.fdi to blacklist info.category input, but it has no effect.
[11:05] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Yes.
[11:05] <ack> oCean: excellent got the logs now
[11:06] <sz_> linux_hacks: Do you know where I could disable /dev devices? Without simply deleting the files. Any blacklist for that, or where does it decide which ones to create?
[11:07] <ack> the last thing in my xorg log is DRI initialization successfull and then FBADPhys: 0xf0000000 FBMappedSize: 0x0102c000. Any ides?
[11:07] <as001> hi I have problems with freezing of Ubuntu 11.04 on my computer. I think it is nuveau driver for my graphic card.  I can just move mouse but can not do anything with keyboard... Does anyone have such problem ?
[11:07] <linux_hacks> sz_: nope
[11:07] <as001> It occures after some times (5-10 mins or few hours...)
[11:07] <sz_> linux_hacks: Thanks anyways for trying. :)
[11:08] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: now extract files to folder
[11:08] <dooglus> sz_: did you try blacklisting the kernel USB modules, etc?
[11:08] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: I extracted and copiedit to /opt/google/chrome/plugins
[11:08] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: so did it work?
[11:08] <as001> here is my graphic card: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce G210]
[11:09] <sz_> dooglus: Yes, that works well with USB (usbhid module). But what would I need to blacklist to disable PS/2?
[11:09] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: just the .so file, or must I extract the whole tar file to that folder?
[11:09] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: just .so file
[11:09] <dooglus> sz_: it could well be compiled into the kernel image, not as a module
[11:09] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: HOw do I know if it worked?
[11:09] <dooglus> sz_: in which case you would be sol
[11:09] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: Now you should be able to see the flash plugin in chrome://plugins/ window
[11:09] <sz_> dooglus: Any chance of disabling the /dev/psaux, for instance?
[11:10] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: atleast in disable mode
[11:10] <andeeeuk> Hey Everyone
[11:10] <andeeeuk> I have tried to get clutterflow working but when i try to use it , it does nothing
[11:10] <andeeeuk> any ideas anyone?
[11:10] <sz_> dooglus: With "sudo nohup cat /dev/tty0 &> /dev/null &" I can take over the PS/2 keyboard and suppress input. Not sure if it's the proper way, but it works, but only for keyboard.
[11:10] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Nope.
[11:10] <dooglus> sz_: you could try 'chmod 0 /dev/...'
[11:11] <dooglus> sz_: a device without permissions won't be usable
[11:11] <linux_hacks> ok.. now execute /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --enable-plugins %U and see
[11:11] <sz_> dooglus: I'll try but expect it to be recreated on next boot. But then I could use a startup script to change it again. Not so beautiful, but if it works... will try!
[11:11] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: command not found.
[11:12] <dooglus> sz_: you can put it in /etc/rc.local - then you don't need the 'sudo'
[11:12] <sz_> dooglus: Oh well, it doesn't work. chmod 0 or even rm doesn't affect PS/2 mouse movement.
[11:12] <linux_hacks> try with sudo
[11:12] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: try with sudo
[11:13] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Thatb waswith sudo... there is no chrome in /opt/
[11:13] <andeeeuk> has anyone had any problems with clutterflow in nautilus?
[11:13] <dooglus> sz_: is superglue in the port an option?
[11:13] <andeeeuk> i cant get it working
[11:13] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: how did you install chrome ? is it from synaptic or manually by downloading file?
[11:13] <andeeeuk> or it is not working at all
[11:13] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Synaptic I think.
[11:13] <sz_> dooglus: In fact, that's what I already considered but tried to find a "nicer" solution. :)
[11:13] <dooglus> sz_: who ever uses a ps2 mouse any ore?
[11:13] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: now type whereis chrome
[11:14] <frenzz> Hello, how install 32bit app on 64bit 11.04 ?
[11:14] <dooglus> sz_: obviously nicer to find a software solution
[11:14] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: or type whereis google-chrome
[11:14] <sz_> dooglus: I don't - but if anyone plugged one in, they would circumvent my attempt to disable local input.
[11:14] <andeeeuk> bump :p
[11:14] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: It does not find it.
[11:15] <dooglus> sz_: don't forget to password protect the bios and set it not to boot from cd, usb, network
[11:15] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: locate google-chrome
[11:15] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: I think it is called chromium-browser
[11:15] <dooglus> sz_: or they can boot from a livecd and all bets are off
[11:15] <andeeeuk> haveing problems with clutterflow not working in nautilus
[11:15] <andeeeuk> any ideas?
[11:15] <ubuntu_er> it's called google-chrome
[11:15] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: chromium-browser: /usr/bin/chromium-browser /etc/chromium-browser /usr/lib/chromium-browser /usr/share/man/man1/chromium-browser.1.gz
[11:16] <ivs> just use Chromium instead of Chrome, and then download flash from the software manager - will install for Chromium in addition to firefox (though it doesn't say this in description)
[11:16] <sz_> dooglus: Of course. Well, I've got to go, but thanks for your help. See ya.
[11:16] <ubuntu_er> different
[11:16] <dooglus> bye
[11:16] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: I was thinking you used google-chrome
[11:17] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: So did I until I checked themenu shortcut for the browser.
[11:17] <andeeeuk> hello
[11:17] <andeeeuk> haveing problems with clutterflow not working in nautilus
[11:17] <dooglus> when I try to drag a window into the corner, it gets maximized
[11:17] <dooglus> can I disable that feature?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: its in ccsm i believe under grid. Its in there just sniff around
[11:18] <andeeeuk> helloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:19] <andeeeuk> anyone here used nautilus in ubuntu.......?
[11:19] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: ccsm?  where's that?
[11:19] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: ok.. create a softlink to the libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins folder
[11:19] <andeeeuk> curious :p
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: its to copy aero snap
[11:19] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Now you are talking over my head.
[11:19] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I thought so
[11:19] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Can I just mv the file there?
[11:20] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: you could do that
[11:20] <king313> Hi. I'm a ubuntu very low intermediate user... I am trying to format a pendrive who have a lot of partitions cause of an error
[11:20] <fr00g> Does anyone know how I can get a badge on my panel like in here? http://klaus83.deviantart.com/art/MNL-Art-1-209696383
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: run it in terminal / dash / guake etc
[11:20] <king313> I want to format all the pendrive, destroying all partitions, and leaving only the one (vfat) which I want
[11:20] <andeeeuk> wow, imlike the invisible man...nobody knows im here
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> king313: use gparted
[11:21] <king313> the problem comes cause all the tutorials that I found in the web are about formating ONE partition (/dev/sdb1)
[11:21] <andeeeuk> yay :) this is awesome :P
[11:21] <king313> ok, going on it, thx ActionParsnip
[11:21] <zmotok> hello everyone, how do you make alt-tab cycle windows on all workspaces in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:21] <geek1d> whatsup ubuntu peoplez
[11:21] <oCean> andeeeuk: we can see you, have some patience
[11:21] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: then run  chromium-browser --enable-plugins --enable-greasemonkey --enable-user-scripts --enable-extensions
[11:21] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: the moment I did that it added it into the list on chrome://pugins
[11:22] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: good.. now click on enable
[11:22] <andeeeuk> oCean ok
[11:22] <andeeeuk> oCean question prob lost in the universe somewhere :P
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> linux_hacks: plugins and extensions are default enabled
[11:22] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Already enabled :)
[11:23] <xingzhemu> you speak chinese?
[11:23] <osse> Is it possible to have two different launchers  appear as one on the unity dock when both programs are started? They are infact the same program, but with different startup options
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !ch
[11:23] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: so is it working now?
[11:23] <_ruben> !cn
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !cn
[11:23] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Opening the website that required flash to test right now.
[11:24] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: thanks.  it turns out just setting the thresholds lower makes it useable for me
[11:24] <linux_hacks> ActionParsnip: Yes. But I wanted to make sure we don't leave any step
[11:24] <ubuntu_er>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: if your ubuntu is 64bit there is a ppa for 64bit flash. There is also o
[11:25] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks: Perfectly, thank you.
[11:25] <linux_hacks> Ascavasaion: nice to hear that.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> One for 64bit java
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> linux_hacks: fair point
[11:27] <Ascavasaion> linux_hacks and ActionParsnip ... thank you both.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i'd say it was all linux_hacks ;-)
[11:30] <linux_hacks> ActionParsnip: I would say it's all because of IRC :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Irc powerrrrrrrrrrr
[11:31] <linux_hacks> haha
[11:33] <andeeeuk_> Hey ubuntu fans
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Irc power is so powerful it can block out the sun, but then it gets too cold. So it makes another sun. Double sun powerrrr
[11:34] <andeeeuk_> I have installed ubuntu with nautilus elementary but clutterflow is now working
[11:34] <andeeeuk_> would anyone know why that could be?
[11:35] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: chuck norris eats you doublesun and shits out moons.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> andeeeuk_: can you expand on "not working" please
[11:35] <Luffha> hi guys...i wanted to chroot 1 specific user only on proftpd....how can i do it?
[11:36] <Egbert9e9> sometimes i get these kind of messages: 13:11 -!- Irssi: Couldn't create log file /home/phunbaba/irclogs/FreeNode/zaapiel.log: No  such file or  directory
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> phaidros: no seen the old spice ads?
[11:36] <Egbert9e9> it's on a remote irssi i log into with ssh
[11:36] <andeeeuk_> ActionParsnip it in the menu but when you click on it nothing actually happens
[11:36] <Egbert9e9> and it happens with screen/tmux/dtach
[11:36] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: probably the location where you pointed logs to store.. doesn't have FreeNode directory I think
[11:36] <andeeeuk_> really wierd
[11:36] <phaidros> ActionParsnip: never seen ads in the last decade :)
[11:37] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: there is a FreeNode dir
[11:37] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: everything already exists
[11:37] <phaidros> then again maybe now someone know: how to permanently set keyboard layout in console (not X!) in natty?
[11:37] <phaidros> dpgk-reconfigure console-data only does it for the running session, gone after reboot
[11:38] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: check the file permissions
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Egbert9e9: try creating the file yourself. May help
[11:38] <Egbert9e9> it only happens when i detach screen/dtach and logout from the ssh session
[11:38] <Egbert9e9> directories are rwx------ and files are rw-------
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> andeeeuk_:launch the application from terminal, the output may be useful
[11:39] <andeeeuk_> ActionParsnip how can you ask it sto show output?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Egbert9e9: and who owns the files?
[11:40] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: what are the permissions on files
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> andeeeuk_: it will happen when you run the command
[11:41] <Egbert9e9> directories are rwx------ and files are rw-------
[11:41] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: directories are rwx------ and files are rw-------
[11:41] <andeeeuk_> ActionParsnip thats what i thought it would do also but it just opens and restars a new command
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Egbert9e9: who owns the files, the names
[11:41] <andeeeuk_> :s
[11:41] <Egbert9e9> ActionParsnip: the user who runs the irssi and screen/dtach owns the files
[11:41] <RevSpecies116> WOW - people, needing screencap video software for Ubuntu. Which is the best to apt-get?\
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Egbert9e9: no, ls -l   tells you
[11:42] <Konza>  Hi all, I was trying to use acl on a folder in another persons home directory. I was looged in as root.  but when i do it [ setfacl -R -m user:support:rwx directory ]  it replies Operation not permitted. What can be the reason for this?
[11:42] <Egbert9e9> ActionParsnip: i've ls'd already
[11:44] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: do this ls -la|fpaste
[11:44] <Egbert9e9> sec
[11:45] <Egbert9e9> no fpaste
[11:45] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:45] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: then ls -la|pastebinit
[11:46] <ack> there was an xserver update lst night that cripled my machine. anyone know what that update was about?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> ack: libpam?
[11:46] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: all directories are drwx------ all files are -rwx------ and they all belong to phunbaba:phunbaba who runs the processes
[11:48] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: looking at the structure.. only root has permissions.. where as phunbaba doesn't have permissions
[11:48] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: what do you mean?
[11:48] <osse> I have created a custom launcher that is just a variant of a launcher in /usr/share/applications. Is it possible to make my launcher _not_ create its own icon on the dock when it is used?
[11:48] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: permissions by which the program ran, doesn't have priviliges to edit/touch the file
[11:48] <andeeeuk_> clutterflow is not working in the latest nautlius-elementary anyone know why that could be??
[11:49] <ack> MonkeyDust: Yes that one was in the update too. Any way to revert and apt-get upgrade?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> ack: the libpam error is a known bug
[11:51] <Egbert9e9> linux_hacks: but the process belongs to phunbaba
[11:51] <linux_hacks> Egbert9e9: then no idea... couldn't help you much
[11:51] <Egbert9e9> sigh...
[11:51] <andeeeuk_> can someone help mye out here?!?!?!
[11:51] <ack> MonkeyDust: ok, can I get arround it somehow? right now I'm stuck in a console with network. Don't get me wrong I love being in the terminal but....
[11:51] <andeeeuk_> would be really helpful?
[11:52] <Egbert9e9> i'll try do-release-update
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> !pamerr| ack
[11:52] <oCean> MonkeyDust: fixed packages have been released
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> ack: no i don't know
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> tnx oCean
[11:53] <andeeeuk_> simple question guys has anyone got clutterflow working in nautilus?!?!
[11:55] <ack> ubottu: woth a try. how do I downgrade though?
[11:55] <phaidros> how or where to permanently set the console keyboard layout to "us" ?
[11:56] <ack> DOH!
[11:56] <phaidros> :D
[11:56] <andeeeuk_> WOW, what a waste of time this irc channel is at times
[11:57] <oCean> andeeeuk_: if all you can do is rant, please do so in an other channel
[11:57] <phaidros> andeeeuk_: irc is mostly waste of time :D
[11:57] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: it's not waste, if the people are not aware of the problem that you have encountered.. you wouldn't get much help because this is all for leaning
[11:58] <andeeeuk_> oCean been on here for about an hour with no hi, not sure, can help or anything rant....come on....
[11:58] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: well .. do you find any logs
[11:58] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: if you just say it's not working.. it's hard to trace out the issue
[11:59] <robin0800> phaidros, perhaps ~.bash.rc
[11:59] <VxQe> andeeeuk_, fine, in answer to your query, yes I am pretty sure someone has gotten it working somewhere in some parrallel universe.
[11:59] <VxQe> "/
[11:59] <VxQe> :/
[12:00] <andeeeuk_> I have been trying to find a log and the terminal wont post a trace in the terminal. Just runs
[12:00] <andeeeuk_> I was almost sure someone has this working
[12:00] <linux_hacks> ok.. try runing this program name|fpaste
[12:00] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: copy what does it shows
[12:00] <ivs> andeeeuk_: try google....pretty specific problem - i'm sure on some forum somewhere it's been figured out...shouldn't be too hard to find
[12:00] <andeeeuk_> lol parrallel ubniverse
[12:01] <andeeeuk_> thats what i though
[12:01] <andeeeuk_> thanks for your help anyway
[12:01] <andeeeuk_> now i gather that others are not experiencing this prob
[12:01] <oCean> andeeeuk_: one sec
[12:02] <VxQe> I've never even used clutterflow, sorry. :P
[12:02] <VxQe> Also,
[12:02] <VxQe> Might as well try asking my question again...
[12:02] <llutz_> phaidros: what version of console-setup are you using?
[12:02] <oCean> andeeeuk_: what does    gconftool-2 --get /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_clutter   output?
[12:02] <VxQe> What should I use to backup my entire disk to a file? Something that takes into account sparse files would be nice
[12:02] <VxQe> I.E. not DD.
[12:02] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: you could find some help here http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/nautilus-elementary-gets-coverflow.html
[12:03] <roger21> i don't get log for amacron jobs but i get some for crontab, why ? i do want logs for anacron jobs
[12:03] <ivs> andeeeuk_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clutterflow+not+working+in+nautilus
[12:03] <oCean> ivs: don't suggest google here, thanks
[12:03] <andeeeuk_> the output is false but when i enable it again it goes back to false so seems it ckeeps crashing
[12:04] <andeeeuk_> ivs thanks for the site
[12:04] <ivs> oCean: first result is an Ubuntu forum post re this very issue
[12:04] <linux_hacks> andeeeuk_: http://gbutola.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/enable-clutter-view-in-nautilus-elementary/
[12:04] <ivs> oCean: with [SOLVED] in the title
[12:04] <oCean> ivs: don't suggest google or lmgtfy again, thanks
[12:05] <phaidros> llutz_: 1.57ubuntu20
[12:08] <llutz_> VxQe: tar (-S)
[12:09] <ivs> oCean: I don't get it -- why not? In this case the very first autosuggest for googling "clutterflow" was "clutterflow not working" and the very first result mentioning nautilus was about it not working in nautilus elementary on Maverick within the Ubuntu forums.....it seems to have fixed his problem as he just dropped off without asking another question after thanking me for the post...don't really understand your policy
[12:10] <llutz_> !info keyboard-configuration
[12:11] <llutz_> phaidros: ^^^ tried this?
[12:12] <oCean> ivs: while google is helpful for lots of people, there are still many users that find it not useful. Results of a lmgtfy might not be relevant and set users off in the wrong direction. If you are convinced that a certain page has the solution for a specific problem, then show the page.
[12:12] <phaidros> llutz_: where should keyboard-configuration be ?
[12:12] <phaidros> dant find it ..
[12:13] <llutz_> phaidros: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration               just a guess from console-setup changelog
[12:13] <phaidros> llutz_: only binary beginning with "key" is keytool
[12:13] <phaidros> hm, ok
[12:13] <llutz_> i still wonder why console-setup in 11.04 works so different from 10.10
[12:14] <phaidros> me too
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> is it possible to install a distro on a virtual disk, created with dd?
[12:14] <phaidros> llutz_: the installer asks for keyboard layout, which package gets configured with that?
[12:15] <ivs> MonkeyDust: virtual disk located where?
[12:15] <llutz_> phaidros: i thought it would be console-setup
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> ivs: in /home/my_user
[12:15] <_ikke_> I'm trying to add a custom url handler for spotify links, but it keeps openening the links in my browser. I use gconftool-2 to add a handler for it (http://paste.pocoo.org/show/398787/). But when I do xdg-open spotify:test or xdg-open spotify://test it still opens in my browser. Am I missing something?
[12:16] <phaidros> llutz_: dpkg -L keyboard-configuration at least hints for a config file in /etc/udev
[12:16] <phaidros> maybe thats the way
[12:16] <ivs> MonkeyDust: you could probably work out a way to install it, but won't be able to boot into it. might want to take a look at virtualbox
[12:16] <phaidros> what I wonder is, that "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" sets the keyboardlayout, but doenst permanently .. o.O
[12:16] <llutz_> phaidros: do you have /etc/default/keyboard?
[12:17] <zxiest> Hello everybody :-)
[12:17] <deneb> hello....when i umount my external NTFS drive...i get kernel panic..!
[12:17] <phaidros> llutz_: yes .. and with any luck thats the cause :)
[12:18] <deneb> anynone can help me about this?
[12:18] <zxiest> Any webmail server you guys recommend?
[12:18] <phaidros> llutz_: to easy to look there, one has to get used to look into /etc/default first nowadays :)
[12:18] <phaidros> zxiest: webmail? server?
[12:18] <phaidros> zxiest: you mean a mailserver or a webmail (as in html based mua) ?
[12:18] <llutz_> zxiest: roundcube (webmail frontend to any imap/pop3-server)
[12:18] <zxiest> phaidros webmail application I mean... Something like squirrelmail or roundcube
[12:19] <phaidros> zxiest: roundcube is still best
[12:19] <zxiest> phaidros I see...
[12:19] <phaidros> imho
[12:19] <zxiest> I have it installed but I don't like the themes...
[12:19] <zxiest> Skins*
[12:20] <luuk> Hello..
[12:20] <zxiest> llutz_ thank you :-)
[12:20] <luuk> anyone know a good IRC channel for Delphi? :P
[12:20] <_ikke_> Ok, gnome-open opens the right application, but xdg-open not
[12:20] <llutz_> zxiest: checked skins-repo in roundcube-wiki?
[12:20] <r0fs3ck5> luuk: not on freenode I don't think
[12:21] <zxiest> llutz_ is that different than those in the forum?
[12:21] <luuk> :( im kinda new to IRC, i never use it
[12:21] <llutz_> zxiest: not sure, its the one i used ages ago :)
[12:21] <luuk> is there a website with popular channels?
[12:21] <zxiest> llutz_ cool.. I'll check it out =)
[12:21] <llutz_> !alis | luuk
[12:21] <_ikke_> How can I either make xdg-open use gnome-open, or add a url handler to xdg-open?
[12:21] <arif-ali> anyone have any experience in getting the driver RTL8191SEvB (Realtek wireless driver) to work on their laptop correctly, I have searched google, and forums, and none of the suggested has fixed my problems
[12:22] <r0fs3ck5> luuk: google it
[12:22] <luuk> you nice guy :P
[12:22] <r0fs3ck5> luuk: 'directory of irc networks
[12:22] <ivs> r0fs3ck5: watch out for oCean :-P
[12:22] <r0fs3ck5> ivs: why so?
[12:23] <ivs> arif-ali: you can try compiling from compat wireless sources and installing those
[12:24] <arif-ali> I have compiled the sources from the realtek website, with no luck, I'll try the compat ones, will google that and find it, thx
[12:24] <ivs> r0fs3ck5: chewed me out for suggesting google in an instance where the very first result for querying the problem turned out to be an Ubuntu forum post solving the issue
[12:24] <ivs> r0fs3ck5: apparently against the "rules" of the channel
[12:24] <luuk> damn :(
[12:24] <luuk> thats why i hate old windows specific languages
[12:25] <luuk> fucking delphi
[12:25] <r0fs3ck5> ivs: mine was related to general search for a specific term regarding irc networks.  pointing to an external search engine is more than reasonable in that case.
[12:25] <ivs> arif-ali: compat wireless sources are the kernel drivers separate from the kernel distribution, and often are more updated --- however, if the driver is not open source, they won't have it, just as a heads up
[12:25] <i5noc> 0.0
[12:26] <llutz_> luuk: try at ircnet
[12:26] <ivs> r0fs3ck5: I agree, and it seemed reasonable in the case where I suggested it as well.....but don't mind me - just bitter about being chewed out for something that seemed, and was intended as, helpful to another :-)
[12:26] <arif-ali> ivs, ok, cool, thanks for that, just got a new laptop, and pulling my hair out at the moment, using the ethernet cable instead at the moment. I will continue to dig around, and see what I can do to fix it
[12:27] <luuk> thanks llutz i did
[12:27] <luuk> but the channel is empty..
[12:27] <wookienz> how does one read this bug and how do i install the fix. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/compiz/+bug/767095
[12:28] <luuk> i got this problem when updating to the new window manager
[12:28] <llutz_> !oneiric | wookienz
[12:28] <ivs> arif-ali: look at last post in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1635892
[12:29] <luuk> i dont really like the new interface :(
[12:29] <wookienz> llutz: fix has been committed to natty - how do i install it.
[12:29] <ivs> arif-ali: might be a quick fix to your issue that doesn't require building drivers from source
[12:29] <anand> hi! every body
[12:29] <luuk> llutz_ thanks for your help anyway
[12:30] <Craig`> hey guys, i accidently invoked the wrong command, i executed `go-rwx /home/*/` and now my craig user (who has sudo access) can't even perform cd etc, what's the easiest way to undo this?
[12:30] <arif-ali> ivs, already tried that, done a BIOS upgrade, etc...   . My wireless connects, but after 30 seconds all my connections time out, and disconnect all my ssh connections
[12:34] <llutz_> Craig`: "go-rwx" is no command. you used chown or chmod?
[12:35] <llutz_> Craig`: sudo chmod 750 /home/*                    if that above was "chmod go-rwx /home/*/"
[12:35] <Craig`> llutz_: sorry i missed some of the command off, i used chown iirc.
[12:35] <anand> any one help me after update there is no unity sidebar in ubuntu 11.04
[12:36] <Craig`> chmod*
[12:36] <anand> hello
[12:37] <ivs> arif-ali: looks like compat wireless has a driver for the rtl819x family....try building and installing that...from what I read online, set to be included in in .40 kernel
[12:37] <phaidros> zxiest: there is horde as well, but imho ugly bloated webmail
[12:37] <Craig`> thanks llutz_, basically i've got an account called ps2, and it's got symbollic links to /home/craig/Games/PS{1,2} and i'm wanting it to only be able to read those files, I created the links but now i can't even view them with ls, mind helping me?
[12:37] <zxiest> phaidros haha... I want something that's really simple
[12:37] <arif-ali> ivs, yeah, I am just in the process now of compiling and installing, will see what I get in about 10 mins
[12:37] <llutz_> wookienz: i guess you'll have to wait until the affected packages are updated. they will come with system-updates then
[12:38] <llutz_> Craig`: sudo chmod 755 /home/*              then
[12:38] <ivs> arif-ali: might want to reboot rather than just the recommended 'make wlunload && modprobe driver' - one of my cards wouldn't load until a reboot
[12:39] <Craig`> llutz_: yes i've executed that thanks, i'm just not sure how to get ps2 able to access the symbollic links.
[12:39] <llutz_> Craig`: ps2 should be able to read those links
[12:40] <adac> hi guys. when i do crontab -e i can edit the crontab. but where is the file located where those jobs are located?
[12:40] <Craig`> llutz_: "ls: cannot access PS1: Permission denied"
[12:40] <llutz_> adac: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[12:41] <llutz_> Craig`:  chmod 755 /home/craig/PS{1,2}
[12:41] <llutz_> Craig`:  chmod 755 /home/craig/Games/PS{1,2}            sry
[12:41] <adac> llutz, thank you!
[12:42] <Craig`> llutz_: it's still saying permission denied, the files are red when i ls.
[12:42] <llutz_> Craig`:  chmod 755 /home/craig/Games
[12:43] <llutz_> Craig`: still denied?
[12:43] <Craig`> llutz_: yeah.
[12:44] <llutz_> Craig`:  check every single dir of this path /home/craig/Games/PS{1,2}  should have 755 permissions
[12:45] <anand> hello
[12:45] <ivs> Craig`: is /home/craig set to 755?
[12:45] <ivs> ah, llutz_ beat me to it ;)
[12:45] <amarant> hey does anybody in here having problems with laptop overheating?
[12:46] <jpds> amarant: Open it up, clean it.
[12:46] <Craig`> sorry, how do i check the permissions of /home/craig?
[12:46] <Craig`> llutz_:
[12:46] <amarant> jpds: it works fine on win7
[12:47] <anand> hello
[12:47] <ivs> Craig`: ls -l /home/craig
[12:47] <llutz_> ls -ld /home/craig
[12:48] <Craig`> drwxr-xr-x 2 ps2 craig 4096 2011-05-31 23:52 PS1
[12:48] <Craig`> drwxr-xr-x 2 ps2 craig 4096 2011-06-01 12:13 PS2
[12:48] <Craig`> oops sorry, that's for Games
[12:48] <Craig`> drwxr-x--- 18 craig craig 4096 2011-05-30 20:27 /home/craig
[12:48] <ivs> Craig` - yeah - do the same for /home/craig and /home/craig/Games
[12:48] <llutz_> Craig`:  sudo chmod 755 /home/craig
[12:49] <llutz_> ah no sudo needed
[12:49] <amarant> I was browsing and the cpu temp reached 50-52C in 10 min
[12:49] <ivs> Craig`: what llutz_  just said --- also, do the same for /home/craig/Games
[12:49] <Craig`> llutz_, ivs, thanks.
[12:50] <kuru> I'm having a hard time getting Banshee to work (11.04). It keeps crashing on start-up. When I ran it from the CLI with '-dbg', I see it failing with this: Unhandled Exception: GLib.GException: Error moving file: Permission denied
[12:50] <kuru> I can run Banshee as root, but that's obviously not a solution.
[12:51] <Craig`> i'm doing ps2 homebrew so the ps2 is connecting to my files, i've gave it an account and password now, now i need to connect the ps2 to the machine via ethernet and then give it access to the files, i've got it's account but i need to share them with it, it uses smb i think, mind pointing me in the right way?
[12:51] <amarant> anybody here on a laptop?
[12:51] <kuru> And yes, although not related, I still did remove .config/banshee-1 and .cache/banshee-1 dirs
[12:51] <llutz_> !samba | craig
[12:51] <kuru> Anyone wanna offer some insights?
[12:51] <klown> amarant, yes
[12:51] <llutz_> Craig`: the factoid is all i know about samba :)
[12:52] <amarant> klown: any problems with overheating?
[12:52] <klown> nope.
[12:52] <arash> hello
[12:52] <arash> :)
[12:52] <arash> Im From IRAN
[12:52] <klown> samba is fun /slitwrist.
[12:52] <amarant> klown: did u install 2.6.39?
[12:52] <arash> yes
[12:52] <Craig`> well, from the videos i've seen they connect the ps2 to their machine and then bridge the connection with lan/wan, giving the ps2 internet and access to the files (as they share a folder), so i'm wanting to do this with  my machine
[12:53] <ack> Am I the only one that can't boot after last nights upgrade?
[12:53] <arash> quit
[12:53] <llutz_> Craig`: ip-forwarding/masquerading to share network-access, samba for file-share.
[12:53] <Derkek> So, could someone help me with my left click deciding to stop working. Today it happened during the installation process. :/
[12:54] <llutz_> !ics | craig  i don't know if this is still working but should give you a start
[12:54] <klown> amarant, no im still running 2.6.38.8
[12:55] <amarant> klown: mhh what about graphics drivers?
[12:57] <klown> intel mobile 4 chipset
[12:57] <klown> stock drivers.
[12:57] <kuru> so.. no one listens to music here.. :)
[12:58] <kuru> or use Banshee for that matter
[12:58] <klown> never cared for banshee.
[12:58] <amarant> i dont understand why i reach high temp by just browsing...
[12:58] <kuru> klown, well, considering that rhythmbox's development is discontinued, it's the only current alternative
[12:59] <klown> amarant, after an update, or fresh install.
[12:59] <kuru> klown, im not a fan, just baffled as to why it's trying to move files it shouldn't
[12:59] <amarant> after a fresh install with all the updates
[12:59] <brokenHDD> hey all, my harddrive's completely knackered, I'm trying to back it up, but only have a fat harddrive with enough space, but I don't want to change the filesystem is there anyway of using dd_rescue to give nice DVD sized images?
[12:59] <klown> kuru, xmms?
[13:00] <kuru> klown, xmms used to be simple until they went all out with the whole server/client setup
[13:00] <llutz_> brokenHDD: pipe dd into split
[13:00] <bazhang> klown, you must mean audacious as xmms is long gone
[13:00] <klown> bazhang, thanks for the correction, I havent used a media player on linux in awhile.
[13:01] <brokenHDD> mm, how d'u mean, sorry, I'm not That conversant
[13:01] <mahdiii> hi guys
[13:01] <mahdiii> how can i know my ip address in bt4
[13:01] <bazhang> mahdiii, try #backtrack-linux
[13:01] <Derkek> How can I fix my left click not working occasionally. this time it happened during an installation process and I couldn't click continue.
[13:02] <hungryhubby> which is better client for bt deluge or transmission
[13:02] <DirtyDawg> Derkek: <tab> and <enter> didnt work?
[13:02] <llutz_> brokenHDD: like  dd_rescue -A /dev/sdX - | split -b3999m - /path/to/image
[13:02] <jussi> !best | hungryhubby
[13:02] <bazhang> hungryhubby, depends on you, try both and decide
[13:02] <arash> hello
[13:02] <arash> :")
[13:02] <brokenHDD> will that give consecutively numbered img files, or what?
[13:03] <Derkek> DirtyDawg I was not aware those options existed. :P Either way, it happens while in ubuntu after its installed too.
[13:03] <arash> :)
[13:03] <DirtyDawg> also try qbittorrent
[13:04] <llutz_> brokenHDD: it should
[13:05] <anand> hello
[13:05] <anand> \]];dslv][d
[13:05] <anand> \ss
[13:05] <anand> vsvs
[13:05] <anand> vslvvvvvv
[13:05] <FloodBot1> anand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <bazhang> anand, stop that
[13:05] <kuru> ok, I guess
[13:06] <slaw_> hi
[13:06] <mina2> i am booting linux from a usb pendrive sda1. after linux boots can i remove the pendrive and keep the os running?
[13:06] <anand> hello
[13:06] <bazhang> mina2, what version of ubuntu
[13:07] <bazhang> anand, ubuntu support question?
[13:07] <anand> k
[13:07] <bazhang> anand, ?
[13:07] <mina2> 7.10
[13:07] <Derkek> So, even after it's installed, when I'm in ubuntu, my left click stops working on both my mouse and trackpad(G73).
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> stupid question: using Alltray in Ubuntu Classic (with compiz), Alltray won't undock... hints& tips?
[13:07] <bazhang> mina2, that is long out of support. upgrade to a supported version
[13:08] <mina2> i was wondering if i can remove the pendrive after the os boots
[13:08] <mina2> does the os read data from the partition even if no additional process is started?
[13:09] <Promethes> hi, all ftp connections opens in fiefox or chrome instead of nautilus, anyone knows how to fix this? I use Natty
[13:10] <brokenHDD> heya, could I get that dd_rescue split command again please? I just crashed :-s
[13:10] <oyvindby> Hi, i was wondering if someone could help me, I have issues mounting the root folder of a windows share using fstab and ntfs-3g, the line i use us: sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.13 /home/oyvindby/BKUP -o username=xx,password=xx , but it wont let me mount just the //10.0.0.13 i need to add a folder behind, tho i dont want to because i want to mount the root folder of 10.0.0.13
[13:10] <oyvindby> anyone?
[13:10] <red> llutz_| brokenHDD: like  dd_rescue -A /dev/sdX - | split -b3999m - /path/to/image
[13:10] <brokenHDD> thank you :)
[13:11] <Derkek> I suppose left click issues aren't common?
[13:11] <ubuntudummy> is there an easy way for a ubuntu newbie to change the tty resolution in console? my resolution is 1920x1080 but in console, not using entire screen??? quick and easy answer?
[13:12] <klown> oyvindby, can you post the actual /etc/fstab to pastebin please.
[13:12] <little> hii
[13:12] <oyvindby> klown: just paste it in the channel ?
[13:12] <little> aany body online
[13:12] <little> hello
[13:12] <coz_> little,  yes hello
[13:12] <mentman> yo yo
[13:12] <brokenHDD> dd_rescue: (warning): output file is not seekable!
[13:12] <brokenHDD> dd_rescue: (warning): Illegal seek
[13:12] <brokenHDD> dd_rescue: (warning): - (32768.0k): Invalid argument!    , xferd:     31744.0k
[13:13] <klown> !pastebin | oyvindby
[13:13] <brokenHDD> that's the first three lines, and that third line's repeating with different 'K' values...is this right?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:14] <Derkek> Anyone willing to help? :/
[13:14] <mentman> yea
[13:14] <JyZyXEL> can ubuntus graphical live environment be netbooted?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> what's the problem, Derkek ?
[13:14] <mentman> what you need is a windows 7 cd
[13:14] <little> hello
[13:14] <anand> klown
[13:14] <mentman> and install it
[13:14] <LjL> !install | JyZyXEL, sorta, it's not very easy i think, but there are instructions here
[13:14] <little> any body there
[13:14] <anand> hi little
[13:14] <LjL> little: only 1500 people.
[13:15] <klown> anand, ?
[13:15] <bazhang> mentman, thats not helpful.
[13:15] <anand> i need a help
[13:15] <bazhang> anand, with what
[13:15] <anand> unity
[13:15] <Derkek> MonkeyDust: The left click issue. My left click stops working in ubuntu and more recently during the installation process. The left click on both my mouse (Rat9) and track pad(g73)
[13:16] <brokenHDD> now, if I've dd_rescued one harddrive to this list of other .imgxx files, what would be the next step in repairing the drive and getting it back to what it used to be?
[13:17] <klown> anand, what is your issue with unity?  Please be as specific as possible.
[13:17] <guzu> hello all
[13:17] <guzu> in ubuntu server 1104, there is no /var/log/messages ?
[13:18] <nW44b> guzu: check again
[13:19] <wimpog> I want to use Ubuntu Live CD to check computer's RAM for errors. I installed unetbootin, but I don't see an option of checking memory, and memtest is not available. I have the latest ubuntu on the CD.
[13:19] <guzu> nW44b, i did
[13:19] <guzu> nothing there
[13:19] <Derkek> Right, I think I'm on my own with the left click issue. I'll try installing again.
[13:19] <compact> hi, how can i install the apt package manager?
[13:20] <bazhang> compact, its already there
[13:20] <compact> not on mine
[13:20] <compact> yum or apt
[13:20] <compact> ive got a media server
[13:20] <compact> and got into root
[13:20] <FloodBot1> compact: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:20] <bazhang> compact, then you're not using ubuntu
[13:21] <mentman> bazhang: tis true
[13:21] <bazhang> mentman, what is.
[13:21] <mentman> you need a windows cd
[13:21] <bazhang> mentman, stop it.
[13:21] <mentman> i swear it fixes it
[13:22] <laspuls> i have setup an ssh tunnel to a remote proxy. I use it for secure browsing because I don't trust the proxy I have to go through at work. However, I have been examining packets using wireshark and it appears that the browser GET http data is unencrypted... I can read the urls using wireshark. What am I missing here? What should I be doing to ensure that all my browsing is encrypted over the ssh tunnel and not clear text for anyone on my ne
[13:22] <bazhang> mentman, thats enough.
[13:22] <compact> Linux version 2.6.12.6-arm1 (john@ubuntu-nas) (gcc version 3.4.4) #899 Thu Jul 1
[13:22] <compact>  10:38:05 CST 2010
[13:22] <mentman> ;(
[13:23] <mentman> bazhang: are you running ubuntu or winodws?
[13:23] <compact> bazhang?
[13:23] <oyvindby> klown: this is my input/output, i have not configured /etc/fstab yet, i just tried it in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/615789/
[13:23] <oCean> compact: the topic of this channel is ubuntu, not other distributions
[13:23] <phrozen_> Attempted access to '/home/user/original/D/' denied. hello I make chmod on folder original via chmod 2777, but when program create a folder for example "D" then he dont have privileges can you tell me how can I solve this problem?
[13:24] <compact> but when i grep the version, it says ubuntu
[13:24] <anand> hello
[13:24] <mentman> hi
[13:24] <oyvindby> klown: if I mount //10.0.0.13/some-folder it works
[13:24] <klown> oyvindby, but you want C:\. correct?
[13:25] <oyvindby> correct
[13:25] <oyvindby> its D:\ tho
[13:25] <oyvindby> doesnt matter
[13:25] <ack> Just to inform. I solved my broken natty boot with replacing oss ati drivers with proprietary ones. This happened because of last nights xserver updates
[13:25] <compact> oCean?
[13:25] <oCean> compact: you are using a media server right?
[13:25] <oyvindby> klown: correct, its D:\ not C:\ but it should not matter, its the root folder a drive
[13:26] <klown> try ip:/D$
[13:26] <guzu> ipc?
[13:26] <mentman> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Windows-Home-Premium-Version/dp/B002DUCMT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306931178&sr=8-1
[13:27] <LoneShadow> Hi, I am not able to access my samba server across subnets using a windows client, works on local subnet. Can someone point me into how I can debug this issue?
[13:27] <oyvindby> klown: thanks alot :D how would I add this line to FSTAB ?
[13:27] <guzu> there was a rtick
[13:27] <guzu> trick
[13:27] <guzu> wait a sec
[13:27] <sisal> VLC/Totem freezing system randomly during playback. U 11.04 - Barton 1.8GHz - 1GB RAM - ATi x1950GT (open driver). Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[13:28] <compact> yes oCean
[13:28] <wcchandler> is there a way to check a GPU usage with nvidia cards?
[13:28] <compact> but it has linux loaded in it
[13:28] <klown> oyvindby, same line as your mount, except add " 0 0" to the end of it
[13:28] <oCean> compact: the topic of this channel is not 'linux' it is 'ubuntu', you have to find support elsewhere
[13:30] <oyvindby> klown: with or without the sudo mount command ?
[13:30] <klown> oyvindby, //10.0.0.13/D$ /mnt/share cifs username=administrator,password=** 0 0         (IIRC)
[13:31] <klown> I dont use cifs, so I'm not positive that is correct.
[13:31] <oyvindby> klown: thanks alot, once again..
[13:31] <compact> oCean but distro on it is ubuntu
[13:32] <klown> oyvindby, not a problem
[13:32] <oCean> compact: It might be a ubuntu derivative, but if it lacks even apt, then you can be certain it's an unsupported derivative. What is output of lsb_release -a command?
[13:32] <blargg> I've manually setup the MBR of a HDD at /dev/sda and I want Linux to create the appropriate /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 etc. devices without rebooting. How do I do this?
[13:33] <IdleOne> compact: might want to try ##linux
[13:34] <hungryhubby> blargg: sda1,sda2 etc are partitions
[13:34] <hungryhubby> equivalent of ur windows c ,d, e etc drives
[13:34] <blargg> hungryhubby, when I booted, /dev/sda had just zeroes in the MBR, thus there is only a /dev/sda device, no sda1 etc. devices. I want to use gparted on this drive, but it complains of lack of sda1 etc.
[13:36] <hungryhubby> what you mean by finding only zeros we cant see in it whats written ...all i know is you might be missing partition table
[13:36] <hungryhubby> its just that gparted didnt detect your partitions right?
[13:37] <blargg> gparted shows the partitions, but complains when I try to get filesystem info since it wants to read sda1 sda2 etc.
[13:37] <blargg> I just need linux to do whatever it does at boot when first opening the device
[13:37] <wimpog> Is there a way to check RAM using a Live CD?
[13:38] <guzu> sysresccd.org
[13:38] <coz_> wimpog,   not sure ,,open a terminal and t ype   mem
[13:38] <edbian> wimpog: Check it for integrity or just see how much you have?
[13:38] <wimpog> coz_: memtest is not available
[13:38] <blargg> I'd reboot, except sda is a mirror of sdb, meaning it has the same UUIDs for the filesystems, which causes the machine to use sda instead of sdb. If I could change the UUID of the filesystems on sda, that would work.
[13:38] <wimpog> edbian: check integrity
[13:38] <coz_> wimpog,  ah ok then I am not sure
[13:39] <edbian> wimpog: Boot up the live CD (hit any button during the keyboard man thingy) use memtest+
[13:39] <wimpog> edbian: when I boot it I am presented with two options - try or install
[13:40] <hungryhubby> wow keep it simple can u paste the output of disk utility blargg
[13:40] <edbian> wimpog: You have to press any key when the installer looks like this:  http://blog.siliconforks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ubuntu-out-of-range.png
[13:40] <wimpog> edbian: let me try that
[13:40] <edbian> wimpog: sure
[13:41] <blargg> nevermind, apparently I'm failing to communicate (or what I'm doing is too insane to understand heh)
[13:42] <wimpog> edbian: got it! I never knew about this. Thanks!!!
[13:42] <edbian> wimpog: sure
[13:44] <hungryhubby> how do manage my phone
[13:45] <wimpog> edbian: there should be some kind of text that prompts the user to press any key for these additional options
[13:45] <edbian> wimpog: Tell me about it.  Keyboard = Stickman ???  How is that intuitive.  Try explaining to other less tech savvy users about it over IRC!
[13:45] <edbian> wimpog: I didn't mean you're less savvy of course...
[13:46] <Guest93430> what's the file that displays information about everything? ie when a usb is plugged in, an ethernet cable plugged in etc, i thought it was /var/log/messages but i was incorrec
[13:46] <wimpog> edbian: I just know in previous versions this option was on the main menu
[13:46] <edbian> Guest93430: dmesg
[13:46] <munga> I've configured quota on a ubuntu desktop. Is there a way to send quota notifications via dbus to the user desktop ? quota sends emails, but this is not good enough.
[13:46] <edbian> wimpog: Yes.  It was
[13:46] <bazhang> dmesg Guest93430
[13:47] <Scunizi> Guest93430: sudo lshw
[13:47] <guzu> what's a good resource for learning how to make .deb s?
[13:47] <Scunizi> !compile | guzu
[13:48] <bazhang> !packaging | guzu
[13:48] <guzu> Scunizi, bazhang thank you
[13:49] <wimpog> edbian: thanks!
[13:52] <tumbes2000> Quit
[13:55] <pocketsthex> so i have a question.. anyone experience problems with wpa2 in lucid?
[13:55] <brokenHDD> okay, I'm backing up my hard drive to a series of DVD-sized img files (named backup.imgXX)..how would I mount/check/repair this series as one whole?
[13:56] <pocketsthex> are you using tar to back up?
[13:56] <pocketsthex> or an app that supports tar?
[13:56] <brokenHDD> no, dd_rescue, its a broke partition I'm backing up
[13:57] <razorsharp> pocketsthex, as in wifi connection problems?
[13:59] <arashrz> hello , i installed gnome 3
[13:59] <arashrz> then downgrade to 2
[13:59] <arashrz> but my desktop wont load
[13:59] <arashrz> i can only see wallpaper
[13:59] <arashrz> help me
[13:59] <arashrz> :(
[14:00] <openshell> for some reason i have failed to get skype back
[14:00] <hungryhubby> arashrz: what command u used for downgrade
[14:00] <arashrz> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[14:00] <arashrz> sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[14:00] <pocketsthex> razor yeah. was just looking at forums
[14:01] <hungryhubby> can u try this apt-get upgrade ubuntu-desktop
[14:01] <arashrz> say it again plz
[14:01] <hungryhubby> can u try this apt-get ubuntu-desktop --- this
[14:02] <pocketsthex> also it's annoying to see solutions that rely on updates etc that need net access.
[14:02] <hungryhubby> maybe install also
[14:02] <arashrz> root@arashpc:~# apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[14:02] <arashrz> E: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop
[14:02] <pocketsthex> i don't own the 60' ethernet cable i'd need to get this box wired
[14:02] <hungryhubby> apt-get upgrade --fix missing
[14:02] <Toph2>  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:03] <openshell> i removed it reinstalled still same issue. it pops up and the skype window disapperas while i am filling my password
[14:03] <arashrz> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[14:03] <arashrz> or been moved out of Incoming.
[14:03] <arashrz> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[14:03] <arashrz> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:03] <arashrz>  ubuntu-desktop : Depends: gnome-applets but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <FloodBot1> arashrz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <arashrz>                   Depends: gnome-control-center but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <arashrz>                   Depends: gnome-panel but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <arashrz>                   Depends: indicator-applet-session but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <arashrz>                   Recommends: network-manager-gnome but it is not going to be installed
[14:03] <arashrz> E: Broken packages
[14:03] <klown> !pastbin | arashrz
[14:03] <Guest40382> Czy ktoś rozmawia po polsku?
[14:04] <klown> !pastebin | arashrz
[14:04] <pocketsthex> i tried installing wicd manually from dled tar and usb drive copy over, but wicd also has no luc
[14:04] <pocketsthex> k
[14:04] <arashrz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615816/
[14:04] <hungryhubby> arashrz: use computer janitor
[14:04] <pocketsthex> anyone know what the issue is with lucid's wifi?
[14:05] <arashrz> how?
[14:05] <hungryhubby> if your still unsuccessful you need to reinstall ubuntu
[14:05] <mrbrdo> hey guys. i have a weird issue with a folder, when i do "ls -al" the folder (which has the name "system") is not listed, but if i rename it (e.g. mv system system2) it becomes visible for me, until i rename it back to system, at which point ls will not show it again. symlinks made to it do not show up either. i've also tried to create a new empty folder with that name and it is also invisible
[14:05] <pocketsthex> this isn't a netbook or anything. tower box
[14:06] <klown> arashrz, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:07] <ajmak> Hi guys, anyone know how to modify the spamassassin rule scores when used with amavisd-new?
[14:07] <beefsalad> http://pastebin.com/T4vqC7U9 this happened on a 10.04 system
[14:07] <arashrz> when i use syntapic to install ubuntu-desktop : http://paste.ubuntu.com/615817/
[14:07] <pocketsthex> are we in netsplit?
[14:08] <pocketsthex> so many joins and parts
[14:11] <b0n1> hey there is there a menuconfig of the kernel that is installed by default by installing ubuntu 11.04 ?
[14:11] <b0n1> to install vmware server 2 you need object files and header files of your running kernel
[14:12] <Okuro> Hi, I am currently using Windows and "Format Factory" for changing between Audio and Video formats. Does anyone of you know an adquate alternative to this in Ubuntu?
[14:13] <nuefox> Having problem with installing 11.04, i've a SSD on my computer(/dev/sda), and want to intall ubuntu to my second hdd which is not ssd(/dev/sdb)
[14:13] <nuefox> But installer freezes everytime i try to install
[14:13] <nuefox> it's on AHCI mode on Bios
[14:13] <nuefox> anyone knows a fix?
[14:14] <Okuro> Hi, I am currently using Windows and "Format Factory" for changing between Audio and Video formats. Does anyone of you know an adquate alternative to this in Ubuntu?
[14:14] <Okuro> any ideas?
[14:14] <brokenHDD> avidemux
[14:15] <brokenHDD> or ffmpeg if you like CLI
[14:16] <Okuro> brokenHDD: is avidemux or ffmpg also for audio-cutting?
[14:16] <brokenHDD> how do you mean?
[14:16] <BluesKaj> audio cutting ?
[14:17] <Okuro> yes
[14:17] <The_Explorer> hello folks. Im sorry to be a bother, but i really.... really need some help. I am in fact going to start begging.
[14:17] <Okuro> such as audacity
[14:17] <openshell> patiently waiting for help on skype
[14:17] <brokenHDD> mmm, you can use ffmpeg to get a wav output to edit audio elswhere, then redub in avidemux, probably ffmpeg too
[14:17] <The_Explorer> I just restored a damaged drive, bunch of unnamed useless files.
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Okuro, not yes , what do you mean as brokenHDD , aqsked
[14:18] <klown> The_Explorer, state what you are having problems with, and maybe someone can help.
[14:18] <The_Explorer> There must be a program out there thats capable of renaming them by file type, and then puting them into a respective folder for sorting.
[14:18] <brokenHDD> okuro...you can't 'edit' your audio in avidemux, I would recommend using audacious then re-recording that track using avidemux]
[14:18] <The_Explorer> I just restored a damaged drive, bunch of unnamed useless files. There must be a program out there thats capable of renaming them by file type, and then puting them into a respective folder for sorting.
[14:18] <Okuro> yes, i meant cutting audio such as you can with audacity
[14:19] <The_Explorer> I mean, surely if i can think of something like that, someone use must
[14:20] <Okuro> Thanks for your help, guys!
[14:21] <Okuro> PART #ubuntu
[14:22] <Pelo> morning folks , I need a little help, what is the proper english term for the feature that turns off your monitor after so much time ? I need to google to fix a problem
[14:22] <brokenHDD> screen saver, or its under power-management
[14:22] <user12> can i create a bootable usb for two operating systems. I am planning to buy 32 Gb usb drive and put both windows and ubuntu so that when it crashes i can use it to boot and restore
[14:23] <The_Explorer> Please anyone help me, this drive had contained very dear things such as bits or writing, things from dead friends and etc. I just need to find someone that can sort through thousands of unnamed files and rename them and sort them so i can fish easier
[14:23] <The_Explorer> some*thing
[14:23] <openshell> suspend, hybernate?
[14:23] <Pelo> brokenHDD, the one under power management, any specific name for the screen portion ?
[14:23] <jiltdil> how to open .enc file any idea/
[14:23] <user12> no one?
[14:23] <Pelo> jiltdil, what's suppose to be in it ?
[14:23] <IdleOne> user12: there are multiboot scripts out there
[14:23] <brokenHDD> not too sure sorry
[14:23] <IdleOne> for USB
[14:24] <IdleOne> user12: don't know about booting Windows from USB though. you might want to ask in ##windows about that
[14:25] <Pelo> brokenHDD, http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/enc no luck fo ryou
[14:25] <IdleOne> user12: take a look at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
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[14:26] <b0n1> how can i find out with what menuconfig my running kernel was built ?
[14:26] <Pelo> jiltdil, http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/enc
[14:26] <brokenHDD> pelo? what was that for?
[14:26] <Pelo> brokenHDD, sorry wrong nick
[14:26] <brokenHDD> lol, rightyo
[14:27] <IdleOne> user12: take a look at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[14:27] <razorsharp> Hi, i just got myself a new vserver with Lucid 64Bit, problem is: direct root access, no users, no groups. When i try to add a new user, it won't let me sudo. Any advice?
[14:28] <Pelo> razorsharp, sudo su and then add the user
[14:28] <Pelo> maybe
[14:28] <b0n1> #linux
[14:29] <Pelo> b0n1,  /join #linux
[14:30] <A_J> hey all my lan card seems to have disappered, what should I do ?
[14:30] <_r> I've been browsing forums and reading but haven't found a solution to this wicd problem I'm having. Gnome w/network manager works fine, but if I log out and log in to my dwm session and use wicd-curses, I can't obtain an IP. I authenticate, just don't get an IP.
[14:31] <razorsharp> i successfully added a new user, but there are no groups i can join, no admin group, no sudoers, so i'm forced to use the root user. Is there a way to recreate / restore the admin group?
[14:32] <The_Explorer> Please anyone? Does some kind of file sorter exist?
[14:32] <The_Explorer> I have no hope of sifting through thousands of crap named files to find important bits of writing and ext.
[14:33] <Psydoll> The_Explorer: Whats going on ?
[14:33] <The_Explorer> I had actually been googling and learning and applying to restore the files for 12 hours yesterday
[14:33] <Pelo> The_Explorer, what do you need to do exactly ?
[14:33] <A_J> Psydoll,  look my question please
[14:33] <Psydoll> A_J I had that problem myself yesterday
[14:33] <The_Explorer> I need a program, that will sort through damaged files, rename them and or move them to directories, respective to thier extentions
[14:33] <The_Explorer> and google cant find out
[14:34] <A_J> Psydoll,  what did you do ?
[14:34] <Psydoll> A_J: What I had to do was turn it on in device managers in windows and booted linux back up and it worked againm
[14:34] <A_J> Psydoll,  kinda sad, cause i'm only using ubuntu
[14:34] <Psydoll> dang that is sad, well go to your bios and put it on from there
[14:35]  * A_J will check BIOS, thanks Psydoll 
[14:35] <candrea> The_Explorer, have you tried something like "mv *.file-extension destination/directory"?
[14:35] <Psydoll> np and good luck
[14:35] <The_Explorer> The files exist in subdirectories
[14:35] <BluesKaj> _r, I assume that by dwm session , you're on the cli , with ethernet or is it wifi ?
[14:35] <candrea> razorsharp, you can use groupadd to add groups; however why are you without the admin group?
[14:35] <Pelo> The_Explorer,  I can'T help , best of luck
[14:35] <The_Explorer> mr candrea
[14:37] <Psydoll> Can someone explain to me like i was a child what exactly is multiverse and universe?
[14:38] <candrea> The_Explorer, mv `find -name "\.file-extension"` destionation/directory
[14:38] <Pelo> Psydoll, fancyfull names for repositories (where packages for progs, apps and drivers and the likes are kept) ,  universe contains everything , multiverse contains everything else
[14:38] <Pelo> :-)
[14:38] <razorsharp> candrea: it was just like that when i choose to install lucid from my hosts control panel
[14:38] <Psydoll> Pelo thanks
[14:39] <The_Explorer> candrea, the files have no name but an assigned number. and searching / loading the list of files appears to tax my cpu, like it wont index
[14:40] <candrea> The_Explorer, ah, I thought you wanted to move them looking at the file extension
[14:41] <jonatasnona> jonatasn0n@
[14:41] <candrea> The_Explorer, how do you want to distinguish between them?
[14:42] <razorsharp> candrea: i can create a new group called admin, but what about the rights? i am not familiar with setting admin rights to a group.
[14:42] <BajK> is there no common/standardized interface for interfacing with graphics hard ware on linux like windows has?
[14:42] <_r> BluesKaj: I mean that I use the dwm desktop session that was installed when I did apt-get install dwm. I select it from Gnome session manager. It is a wireless connection, but for some reason Ubuntu calls the card eth1, if that helps.
[14:42] <BajK> in windows you can at least set basic stuff like screen resolution, monitor arrangement etc regardless of the driver
[14:43] <BajK> with linux using proprietary drivers you have to use the driver's in all cases shitty program
[14:43] <Kingsy> alright ppl, I have just bought a usb phone, what is the best way of getting it working on ubuntu with skype?
[14:43] <prdgnc> 1599 ha gayret
[14:43] <candrea> razorsharp, you have to add this line to your /etc/sudoers: "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" (without the quotes)
[14:43] <BajK> Kingsy: plugging it in, selectingit from skype config?
[14:43] <BajK> :D
[14:43] <candrea> razorsharp, this way, every user in the admin group will be able to use sudo
[14:43] <Pici> razorsharp: make sure you use visdo to modify /etc/sudoers
[14:43] <Pici> razorsharp: sorry, 'visudo'
[14:45] <Kingsy> BajK: ah.. lol umm let me look
[14:46] <xro> Hi, i would like to add a user in a group on my local server (the user already exist on a ldap server)... i cannot do a usermod -a -G group name, i get --> not found in /etc/passwd... can you help me?
[14:46] <Pelo> xro, isn'T it  sudo addgroup username password ?
[14:47] <galaxy_999> hello gang. is it possible to allow a non-root user to install _updates_ but not full dist upgrades via the update manager? i would like other users to be able to grab security/bug fixes etc. just the 'updates'
[14:47] <Pelo> sorry,  addgroup groupname username
[14:47] <bretzel> mmm sad, conky is making Xorg too busy! ( the  13-15% CPU activity in idle). found conky guilty! dunno how to make conky less hungry on my cpu ...
[14:47] <Pelo> galaxy_999, you can set the security update to be automatic if I recall correctly
[14:47] <galaxy_999> i know it can run in the background unattended but, that eats up a lot of bandwidth at times when it may be unwanted
[14:48] <BluesKaj> _r, sorry I haven't any experience connecting wifi in dwm ...maybe someone else can help here ?
[14:48] <galaxy_999> i'd like the user to have a choice on when to consume all that data
[14:48] <Kingsy> BajK: I have plugged it in, and nothing happens.. no options in skype
[14:49] <candrea> Pelo, it's actually adduser username groupname ;-)
[14:49] <BajK> Kingsy: hm it works fine here :D did you restart skype? possible that skype doesnt react to hardware changes right away since it is a non-native application
[14:49] <Pelo> candrea, don'T tell me tell xro
[14:50] <candrea> Pelo, usermod is right too, so adduser won't work; it was just fyi
[14:51] <razorsharp> candrea, Pici: it worked, thanks.
[14:52] <brokenHDD> okay, I now have 36 img files after dd_rescuing the faulty drive, how do I mount/repair/salvage from all these images?
[14:52] <xro> candrea, i get --> unknown group, but the group exists (getent group return it)... But the group is local and not on the ldap... have you an idea
[14:52] <candrea> razorsharp, if you miss the admin group, maybe you are missing some other important groups too. I suggest you to grab a /etc/group (and also a /etc/passwd) from a "sane" Ubuntu and compare it with yours
[14:53] <Pelo> I'm having this issue where Evolution won'T fetch/send emails anymore , anyone know the solution ?
[14:53] <kaizokuroof_> Hello all, I am trying to install SDL 1.2.11 - Some how I ended up trying to find out where X window is installed... Does anyone know where it is installed on Ubuntu 11.04 by default?
[14:54] <kaizokuroof_> Pelo, do you recieve an error message?
[14:54] <Kingsy> BajK: let me try that
[14:54] <xro> candrea, Pelo, forgive me... i'm stupid :(
[14:54] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_,  no it just tries to retreive ne email for ever
[14:54] <Pelo> xro, we forgive ignorance, not stupidity :-)
[14:55] <Psydoll> Pelo: Is Ubuntu popular with African Americans?
[14:55] <Pelo> Psydoll, not a clue, I'M neither
[14:55] <Kingsy> BajK: nope.. no joy
[14:55] <Kingsy> it still plays the audio through my speakers etc
[14:55] <Kingsy> the usb phone is none responsive
[14:55] <BajK> you have pulseaudio installed?
[14:55] <kaizokuroof_> Pelo, What type of mail are you using?
[14:56] <candrea> xro, no problem! is everything solved?
[14:56] <BajK> so you could manually "drag" the sound stream from skype over to the other device
[14:56] <BajK> thats what I use to do when flash does not recognize I add/remove a device
[14:56] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_,  a pop3/smtp from my isp, and a gmail
[14:56] <Kingsy> BajK: well the mic speakers and ringing are all on "pulse audio server (local)"
[14:56] <razorsharp> candrea: yes i noticed many others missing too. thanks
[14:56] <BajK> hm try setting device priority
[14:56] <BajK> in pulseaudio settings
[14:57] <BajK> that the headphones have higher prioritx
[14:57] <Kingsy> BajK: where is the pulseaudio settings ?
[14:57] <BajK> an are used automatically if available
[14:57] <BajK> uh, should be sound devices
[14:57] <BajK> dunno, I use KDE:D
[14:57] <kaizokuroof_> Pelo, Can you try running Evolution as root?
[14:57] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_, from my google search it would appear that evolution in natty is a bit of a lemon , so many problems, can'T figure out which one applyes to me, those I thought did don'T seem to have working fixes
[14:57] <candrea> razorsharp, also remember to check with the packages you have installed when adding the missing users/groups (for example, you don't need the postfix user/group if you don't have postfix installed)
[14:58] <bretzel> I think Natty is the most successful Ubuntu release - Unity, despite the haters, is very usable for me and better then Gnome 3. Gnome3 looks like it is still alpha stable of incoming radical UI changes. I find it far from finished yet still missing so much usability...etc .. okay my mouth is closed now :)
[14:58] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_, sure but I don'T think my account info will be in there
[14:58] <BluesKaj> how to underline text in gedit or kate ?
[14:58] <Konza> Hi all, i was writing a shell script. I wanted to echo [ OK ] at the right end of the screen. How is it possible?
[14:58] <Kingsy> BajK: ok, I can see the phone in the sound options.. there doesnt seem to be any pulseaudio options or anything
[14:58] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_, it starts up the configuration wizard
[14:59] <BajK> Kingsy: can you change device priority?
[14:59] <BajK> there
[14:59] <mattgyver> Konza, echo "[ OK }"
[14:59] <bretzel> Konza: let X = $COLUMNS - (string len) ?
[14:59] <candrea> bretzel, your opinions are welcome! But this is the support channel, if you want to, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss with other your ideas :-)
[14:59] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_,  do you want me to proceed and add a hunch of accounts to the root-evolution?
[14:59] <mattgyver> oops, should have been a ]
[15:00] <kaizokuroof_> Pelo, Could try it. It will at least confirm if it's a permissions issue.
[15:00] <KaiForce> getting the following message on new Ubuntu 10.04 Server LTS machine:  "Your vendor has not defined Socket macro SO_REUSEPORT, used at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/IO/Socket/INET.pm line 193"
[15:00] <KaiForce> google not revealing the solution
[15:00] <Kingsy> BajK: not that I can see
[15:00] <bretzel> echo -e "\e[$X -- oops forgot column position ansi command ...
[15:01] <Pelo> kaizokuroof_,  you should have started with that, I'M gonna check the permissions first
[15:02] <bullgard4> What Ubuntu program can you recommend to edit a XML file  which keeps the line structure? This question is probably equivalent to asking: "What Ubuntu program can you recommend to edit a DOM tree?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Object_Model. Please do not recommend vi, vim.
[15:02] <BajK> Kingsy: hm sorry, try asking somebody else… I thought Ubuntu finally was as advanced as KDE but it isnt^^ I can just click the Headset and move priorities around ^^
[15:02] <bretzel> echo -e "\e[$XA$text" ?
[15:03] <mrdeb> Ubuntu uses Gnome and KDE
[15:03] <prdgnc> 1608
[15:03] <compdoc> I thought Ubuntu finally was as advanced as KDE  <- huh?
[15:03] <DirtyDawg> Ubuntu isnt the same thing as KDE
[15:03] <kaizokuroof_> BajK, Try Kubuntu!
[15:04] <antihero> Is there a way to make sftp drives mounted via nautilus more "permanent" and stable
[15:04] <bretzel> NAtty still uses 4.6.2, 4.6.3 is out since begining of the month.
[15:06] <xro> candrea, yes
[15:06] <mrdeb> has chromium outdone firefox now
[15:06] <DirtyDawg> no
[15:06] <mrdeb> how so
[15:06] <IdleOne> !polls
[15:06] <mrdeb> it is fast
[15:06] <BluesKaj> imo . yes ...ff has become bloated
[15:06] <mrdeb> it starts faster and moves faster
[15:06] <mrdeb> yes BluesKaj
[15:07] <DirtyDawg> blasphamy
[15:07] <mrdeb> plus firefox 4 has weird designs
[15:07] <Pici> !ot
[15:07] <mrdeb> very unintuitive
[15:07] <BluesKaj> DirtyDawg, well to add to your blasphemy , I use kde as well :)
[15:07] <DirtyDawg> :o
[15:08] <mrdeb> why do you use kde
[15:08] <mrdeb> never mind
[15:08] <BajK> kaizokuroof_: I use it all day :P
[15:08] <kaizokuroof_> KDE > Gnome
[15:08] <IdleOne> mrdeb: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <BajK> compdoc: since Unity is a self-made thing I would set Ubuntu and Unity on the same level whereas Gnome and KDE are distro-independent things :)
[15:08] <BluesKaj> mrdeb, because I prefer it to gnome \
[15:09] <tester123> Does anyone know why ufw is always disable when I resume my machine from suspend?
[15:09] <Klavier> what is the advantage of "dual band" 300mbit usb wlan adapter?
[15:09] <BrixSat> hello im trying to boot a live cd on a pc with disk problems, how can i disable ubuntu to check disk errors?
[15:09] <DrGrov> Experiencing some desktop issues
[15:09] <prdgnc> max
[15:09] <DrGrov> How can I make this work out? The left side is stretched so it looks like the desktop is not fully fit. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fvurtd&s=7
[15:09] <BluesKaj> mrdeb, it's amatter of taste as well as familiarity ..when I migrated from windows I found kde more familiar after using windows at work for 10 yrs
[15:10] <maxime__> !fr
[15:10] <DrGrov> It looks like it cuts out the desktop on the right side so I can not go there with my mouse or anything.
[15:10] <kaizokuroof_> Does anyone know where the X window system is instlaled on Natty?
[15:10] <BrixSat> hello im trying to boot a live cd on a pc with disk problems, how can i disable ubuntu to check disk errors?
[15:10] <Inkognito> hey
[15:10] <DrGrov> Problem solved
[15:11] <DrGrov> It put a damn panel there LOL
[15:11] <Inkognito> help
[15:11] <raph_ael> hello, middle paste is always doubled in X, is there a way to adjust this ?
[15:13] <jgould> Any one know if I can ecode a disc as one file in Banshee (or how it can be done)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> BrixSat, disable ubuntu to check disk errors?
[15:13] <excedere> Hey all, trying to install ubuntu and the installer hangs regardless if I try to download updates while installing or not.. any suggestions?
[15:14] <kaizokuroof_> excedere, have you checked for errors on your install media?
[15:14] <anon12> excedere: Check both ur cd and hdd for errors
[15:14] <HelloWorld321> !pam
[15:14] <excedere> yes, and burned 2 discs to be certain
[15:15] <BluesKaj> BrixSat, if your live cd doesn't boot, then you have change the boot sequence in the BIOS to cdrom as the first in the sequence .
[15:15] <kaizokuroof_> excedere, Also try booting into the live CD using the safe mode option. Do you have crazy hardware?
[15:15] <BrixSat> BluesKaj:  yes
[15:15] <excedere> hdd has been checked multiple times, Im on the livecd now
[15:15] <anon12> excedere: hdd prob, samething happend to me...try memtest86 to b sure
[15:15] <kaizokuroof_> excedere, Where does it hang?
[15:15]  * galaxy_999 this
[15:15] <BluesKaj> BrixSat, yes , what ?
[15:16] <BrixSat> BluesKaj:  yes i want to disable disk check live cd boots ok but when starts to check disk stop for a long long long time
[15:16] <excedere> as soon as I click Forward on the preparing screen
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[15:17] <compdoc> jk - dont go there
[15:17] <galaxy_999> isnt there an 'alternate' ubuntu install disk simliar to that of debian's?
[15:17] <tester123> Does anyone know why ufw is inactive when resuming from a suspend?  Any fixes for that so my firewall is automatically reloaded upon resume from suspend?
[15:17] <excedere> hardware isn't crazy, slackware and fedora didn't complain
[15:17] <DJones> !alternate | galaxy_999
[15:17] <anon12> excedere try memtest86 so u'll know hdd is free of errors
[15:17] <BrixSat> BluesKaj:  yes i want to disable disk check live cd boots ok but when starts to check disk stop for a long long long time
[15:17] <prdgnc> 1614
[15:18] <galaxy_999> excedere, might want to try that
[15:18] <arand> anon12: memtest tests memory, not disk...
[15:18] <[min|dvir|us]> How do I make init scripts automatically run on startup>?
[15:18] <[min|dvir|us]> *startup?
[15:18] <genii-around> BrixSat: sudo tune2fs -C0 /dev/sdX#      where X is your drive letter like a, b, c or so on, and # is the partition number within that drive
[15:19] <BrixSat> genii-around:  where would i do that?
[15:19] <anon12> anand:oh yeah sorry...kinda half asleep here
[15:19] <BrixSat> i dont have terminal access during boot
[15:19] <BrixSat> genii-around:  i dont have terminal access during boot
[15:19] <excedere> Ill boot back into fedora and give it a shot
[15:19] <BluesKaj> BrixSat, just hit the escape key
[15:20] <BrixSat> i get a bunch of lines goind up  every second
[15:20] <[min|dvir|us]> Anyone?
[15:20] <BrixSat> can i type it normaly?
[15:20] <genii-around> BrixSat: Boot to the Recovery option from grub menu to issue the command, then issue: reboot after
[15:20] <brokenHDD> how should I cat a backup of my HDD that's been split?
[15:21] <[min|dvir|us]> brokenHDD: Consider rsync.
[15:21] <BrixSat> genii-around:  you dont get it, the disk has no system on it it is a portable disk inserted in the pc so i must boot using live cd
[15:21] <ksinkar> how does one use a zte modem on ubuntu?
[15:21] <arand> brokenHDD: split in what way? Original format?
[15:21] <ksinkar> it is not able to do modeswitch automatically?
[15:22] <jconnolly> got a weird gnome issue here.  Looking for what to change in gconf-editor.  If I click on a mounted disk under "Places" in menu, it opens up gnome-terminal...  wtf?
[15:22] <mrdeb> how do you fix grub from command line
[15:22] <mrdeb> ?
[15:22] <BrixSat> genii-around:  i need to use somethig at grub so i can stop disk check
[15:22] <jconnolly> I'll mail beer to anyone that can help me out.  This is driving me batshit.
[15:23] <josephnexus_1> jconnolly:
[15:23] <josephnexus_1> what's the issue?
[15:23] <brokenHDD> I used dd_rescue and its split into consecutive .img files (imgaa, imgab etc..)
[15:23] <jconnolly> it doesn't happen if I click on directories on the desktop... only when I click on a mounted disk in "Places"
[15:24] <jconnolly> josephnexus_1: when I select a mounted disk by clicking on it under "Places" in the menu, it launches gnome-terminal rather than nautilus at the mount-point
[15:24] <jconnolly> looking for what I need to change view gconf-editor to fix it
[15:24] <josephnexus_1> ah
[15:24] <josephnexus_1> that's an interesting issue
[15:24] <jconnolly> annoying =/
[15:24] <josephnexus_1> yeah
[15:25] <josephnexus_1> let me check one moment
[15:25] <jconnolly> much obliged, josephnexus_1
[15:25] <josephnexus_1> have you tried just clearing out gconf and having gnome recreate it?
[15:25] <[min|dvir|us]> Anyone know how to make a service start on startup?
[15:26] <jconnolly> how would I do that?  /me googles
[15:26] <josephnexus_1> well, you'd lose some specific changes you've made to gconf
[15:26] <arand> brokenHDD: Did ddrescue do the splitting?
[15:26] <jconnolly> that's fine, I can always go back and recreate them
[15:26] <josephnexus_1> but you should just be able to backup, and then delete the .gconf file
[15:26] <jconnolly> is that in ~ or somewhere in /etc ?
[15:26] <josephnexus_1> that will be in ~
[15:27] <josephnexus_1> ~/.gconf or somesuch
[15:27] <abhinavmehta> whats this "natty" in ubuntu..?
[15:27] <jconnolly> sweet.  I'll try that.  PM me your addy if you want to collect on that beer ;D
[15:28] <abhinavmehta> ?
[15:28] <arand> brokenHDD: Anyways, I think "cat image.* | dd_rescue - /dev/sdXY" would be the way to o..
[15:28] <KM0201> !natty | abhinavmehta
[15:28] <brokenHDD> would it be /dev/sdXY or the mount point?
[15:29] <BrixSat> genii-around:  i need to use somethig at grub so i can stop disk check
[15:29] <brokenHDD> I mean its mounted at /media/sda1
[15:29] <abhinavmehta> KM0201: ghosh...its the new-release code...I still rmbr karmic kola only...  :D
[15:29] <genii-around> BrixSat: You can add boot option of: fastboot   to the grub line which contains the kernel /vmlinuz  stanza
[15:29] <KM0201> abhinavmehta: yah karmic is EOL now.
[15:29] <genii-around> BrixSat: Apologies on lag, work required me
[15:30] <arand> brokenHDD: You can't stream an image to a mount point, you need to do that to a device.
[15:30] <abhinavmehta> I've just hearing Unity after karmic kola..don't know how I missed this Natty..!
[15:31] <brokenHDD> ahh gotcha...it seems to be going now, bt shouldn't my hdd be unmounted?
[15:31] <abhinavmehta> anywyas....many people these days are criticizing Ubuntu new release...twitter stream is full of this..
[15:31] <brokenHDD> ahh, it looks like its unmounted itself
[15:31] <abhinavmehta> whats really wrong with Unity....
[15:31] <abhinavmehta> ?
[15:31] <DirtyDawg> loads of people hate it
[15:32] <arand> brokenHDD: The device should be yes.
[15:32] <brokenHDD> yea, I think its going now
[15:32] <KM0201> abhinavmehta: it's a little glitchy at times, a bit of a resource hog... it just needs some bugs worked out.. i imagien by 11.10, or 12.04.. Unity is gonna be pretty good.
[15:32] <abhinavmehta> yes...perhaps, many of my mates have suggested me to move to fedora
[15:32] <KM0201> just think in 11.10, when your option will be gnome 3, or unity...lmao.. all kinds of mess in the making
[15:32] <abhinavmehta> KM0201: Hmmm
[15:33] <galaxy_999> abhinavmehta, most of the people that jumped ship moved to mint
[15:33] <arand> KM0201: I don't think g3 will be an option any more than openbox is an option in ubuntu..
[15:33] <KM0201> probably gonna be a mass exodus to xubuntu 11.04
[15:33] <arand> KM0201: Or, shell, rather.
[15:33] <DirtyDawg> i was told fedora for dumb americans?
[15:33] <KM0201> arand: i thought i read Gnome 3 would be defaultin 11.10, could be wrong
[15:34] <Pici> KM0201: Gnome 3 will be supported on 11.10, but unity will be the default.
[15:34] <arand> KM0201: Yes it will be, not the gnome shell though, DE  will be unity/unity-2d according to plans
[15:34] <abhinavmehta> galaxy_999: mint...can you abbreviate it full..or url to its home..?
[15:34] <josephnexus_1> change isn't bad
[15:34] <KM0201> ah ok
[15:34] <KM0201> wel, i'm happy w/ lxde, so i'm not going anywhere
[15:34] <abhinavmehta> galaxy_999 never heard abt it.
[15:34] <josephnexus_1> if you aren't a big fan of change, stick w/ the LTS and what not
[15:34] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[15:34] <[min|dvir|us]> I like Unity a lot.
[15:34] <josephnexus_1> it's been working well for me
[15:35] <DirtyDawg> [min|dvir|us]: whats the punchline
[15:35] <KM0201> josephnexus_1: lts doesn't really have anything to do w/ "change"...
[15:35] <Pici> Anyways, can we get back to support topics. #ubuntu isn't for discussion, thats what #ubuntu-offtopic is for.
[15:35] <galaxy_999> abhinavmehta, linux mint
[15:35] <Pici> !ot
[15:35] <josephnexus_1> KM0201: it still changes, but not ever 6 months
[15:35] <josephnexus_1> :-P
[15:35] <KM0201> ..
[15:35] <galaxy_999> or you could use a different DE. there is no shortage of those
[15:35] <KM0201> josephnexus_1: you're still missing the point.
[15:36] <Pici> KM0201, galaxy_999, josephnexus_1: Can we move the offtopic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:36] <josephnexus_1> sure
[15:36] <abhinavmehta> galaxy_999: thank you...I'll try this on VM
[15:37] <usuario> olaa
[15:37] <usuario_> olaaaaaaaa kienes soiss?
[15:37] <jpds> !es | usuario_
[15:37] <nsahoo> I want to switch to ubuntu classic (11.04) but there is no session selection button in the login menu
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> how do i align the top panel to bottom in unity
[15:38] <usuario_> mi nombre es antonella y los bustros??
[15:39] <magicj> screensaver is not working for me - I have discovered that I am getting an error: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display "0.0" - what am I missing
[15:39] <andornaut> can anyone recommend linux AV software for scanning a windows partition on the same box?
[15:40] <galaxy_999> andornaut, clamav
[15:40] <axscode> hi guys, i lost my Preferences -> Appearance  what should be installed to have this again?
[15:40] <andornaut> galaxy_999: yep, used clamav years ago, just curious if there's anything else i should look at
[15:40] <ipgd> hi i want to connect to windows networks
[15:41] <ipgd> but
[15:41] <galaxy_999> axscode, right-click menu->edit menus->prefs
[15:41] <kk9822> hi
[15:42] <ipgd> when i try to install missing services
[15:42] <ipgd> it shows Couldnot apply change fix broken pakcage first
[15:42] <kk9822> can  u pl give web add for making usb install ubuntu 11.04
[15:42] <IdleOne> ipgd: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:43] <axscode> galaxy_999 i have this problem because im running 11.04, and upgraded to 11.10 but suddenly the upgrade did not complete, partially that is so i continued it with apt-get upgrade and update-manager -d;
[15:43] <axscode> but sill its on 11.04
[15:43] <axscode> anyways, on unity one, theres no seems right click on menus...
[15:43] <galaxy_999> axscode, i believe there are several commercially available products from the major av vendors out. mostly geared toward corporate environments though.
[15:43] <galaxy_999> whoops
[15:43] <ipgd> @idleone : the problem still exist
[15:43] <galaxy_999> andornaut, ^^^
[15:44] <ipgd> i type your command in terminal
[15:44] <axscode> galaxy_999: eerr?
[15:44] <ipgd> but the problem still exist
[15:44] <IdleOne> ipgd: not sure what to tell you. I am going back to sleep...
[15:44] <galaxy_999> axscode, wrong nick. sorry for the confusion
[15:45] <axscode> yea i thought so..
[15:45] <Pici> axscode: If you're asking about 11.10 support, you should be in #ubuntu+1
[15:45] <ipgd> anyone .....
[15:45] <ipgd> please i want to connect to windows network
[15:46] <ipgd> but it says "could not apply change"
[15:46] <ipgd> fix broken package first
[15:46] <kk9822> anyone can give web add for making boot usb for ubuntu 11.04
[15:46] <comm_> Where does the samba information get stored when you right click share a file on the desktop with samba installed?
[15:46] <anand> how i can play counter strike on ubuntu 11.04
[15:46] <ipgd> @comm : i'm cannot install samba
[15:47] <galaxy_999> ipgd, please dont use new lines as a type of punctuation. keep it all in a single line
[15:47] <BlouBlou> anand: check winedb
[15:47] <Pici> !appdb | anand
[15:47] <razorsharp> ipgd, try opening synaptic package manager, under the edit menu select 'fix broken packages'
[15:47] <ipgd> @galaxy : sorry
[15:48] <anand> i tried but i could not connect to local servers running on my lan network any help
[15:48] <Kingsy> anyone know how to get a usb phone working with skype on ubuntu ?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ipgd, the @ doesn't work on irc, just type the nick or start the nick and finish with the tab key
[15:49] <Kingsy> in sound options.. it looks to be configured.. but I cant get skype to see it..
[15:50] <Kingsy> all skype sees is "pulse audio server (local)"
[15:50] <ipgd> blueskaj, ok thx for the info
[15:50] <Kingsy> I suppose I could set the phone to the main device in sound options each time I wanna use it.. but thats a little stupid
[15:50] <Kingsy> anyone have an idea/
[15:51] <subr00t> hi every body
[15:51] <galaxy_999> is it possible to allow a non-root user to install _updates_ manually but not full dist upgrades via the update manager? i would like other users to be able to grab security/bug fixes etc without having it auto-update at inopportune times in the background gobbling up bandwidth.
[15:51] <tinkerbell> hi how do i get sound in ubuntu?
[15:52] <Logan_> !sound | tinkerbell
[15:52] <tinkerbell> thankyou!
[15:52] <tinkerbell> bye bye
[15:53] <ipgd> this is the error samba:
[15:53] <ipgd>   Depends: samba-common (=2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[15:53] <ipgd>   Depends: libwbclient0 (=2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[15:53] <subr00t> when i try to update the source listi get this error http://pastebin.com/Vgb9zV9f
[15:53] <subr00t> plz help
[15:54] <subr00t> now i cant install anything
[15:54] <subr00t> please help me
[15:55] <Logan_> !please | subr00t
[15:55] <Lungan> Having some script issues. How do I start mutiple scripts and running them parallel from one script?
[15:56] <subr00t> :s
[15:56] <comm_> sh script.sh &
[15:56] <Sp4rKy> &
[15:56] <duli> How do I know if a service is permanently on, meaning it will be started after reboot?
[15:57] <CharlieSu> Hi..  I'm running an Ubuntu box, and sometimes when the box boots it goes to the grub menu and other times it doesn't?  How can I keep it from doing this unless i manually press down a key?  I've tried pulling the power manually and I can't get it to do it consistently
[15:57] <comm_> Does anyone know why when you do a samba share through the ubuntu 10.04 desktop (right click share folder) it doesn't add the information to the .conf file? Also... does anyone know where the share information is actually stored?
[15:57] <subr00t> when i try to update the source listi get this error http://pastebin.com/Vgb9zV9f
[15:58] <Lungan> comm_, Is it possible to have that new script opened in a new terminal?
[15:58] <comm_> Lungan, you might want to look at screen
[15:58] <Logan_> !boot | duli
[15:58] <oCean> subr00t: have you tried running   sudo dpkg --configure -a  ?
[15:58] <Lungan> comm_, ?
[15:58] <subr00t> oCean, iytu this now
[15:58] <ipgd> th following package have unresolveable dependencies. Make Sure that all required repositores are added and enable in the preference
[15:58] <ipgd> samba:
[15:58] <ipgd>   Depends: samba-common (=2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[15:58] <ipgd>   Depends: libwbclient0 (=2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[15:58] <CharlieSu> Lungan: GNU Screen
[15:58] <Pici> !paste | ipgd
[15:59] <comm_> Lungan, you can have it it open in essentially a virtual terminal that you could attach to later
[15:59] <andornaut> thx galaxy_999
[15:59] <Pici> ipgd: can you pastebin the results of    apt-cache policy samba-common   please?
[15:59] <Lungan> comm_, how?
[15:59] <CharlieSu> Lungan: screen is a must for anyone using linux
[15:59] <excedere> memtest86 didn't discover any issues, installer is still hanging
[15:59] <ben42> duli, the script from init.d is linked in the directories rcX.d
[15:59] <comm_> Lungan, i'm no expert... much more info in #screen
[15:59] <subr00t> oCean, i still get the same error
[16:00] <Lungan> comm_, ok thx
[16:00] <excedere> is there a verbose installation method so I can see where its failing?
[16:00] <excedere> wtf... now it wants to work
[16:00] <genii-around> subr00t: Just remove that file, eg: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf                ...it will get rebuilt next when you run sudo apt-get update
[16:00] <comm_> Lungan screen -dmUS MYsweetScript /path/to/script.sh &
[16:00] <oCean> subr00t: one of the lists might be corrupted. Here is a workaround (backup old dir, create new listdir)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/615899/
[16:01] <alvin_> hello buddies, how can i remove the memtest entries in the grub menu?
[16:01] <comm_> Lungan, Then to attach to it open a terminal and type screen -R MYsweetScript
[16:01] <galaxy_999> andornaut, the partedmagic live cd used to come with a rather nice and slim commercial av if you have some sort of aversion to clamav. just dont recall its name at this time
[16:01] <subr00t> oCean i will try it
[16:01] <oCean> subr00t: or as suggested, just remove the files using genii-around command
[16:01] <subr00t> thanks
[16:02] <comm_> Does anyone know why when you do a samba share through the ubuntu 10.04 desktop (right click share folder) it doesn't add the information to the .conf file? Also... does anyone know where the share information is actually stored?
[16:03] <ipgd> http://imagebin.org/156301
[16:03] <Pici> ipgd: did you see my question above?
[16:03] <alvin_> hello buddies, how can i remove the memtest entries in the grub menu?
[16:03] <harovali> hi , in a machine , I have two eth cards, one connected to the internet and one connected to the LAN. This is ubuntu 10.04. I tried in the NetworkManager to configure both of them , but when I select "dsl1 connection" the LAN connection (eth1) gets lost (disconnected). I'd like both connections to work simultaneously. How should I proceed ?
[16:03] <r0fs3ck5> comm_: yes, there is a conflict between nautilus-share and samba.
[16:03] <ipgd> pici, no
[16:04] <Pici> ipgd: can you pastebin the results of    apt-cache policy samba-common   please?
[16:04] <comm_> r0fs3ck5, doesn't it default to a samba share if you have both installed? I am able to access the shared folder from windows
[16:04] <malev> hi there! any app to draw a graph diagrams of a mysql database?
[16:05] <ipgd> Pici, how to do that
[16:05] <ipgd> place apt-cache on terminal ?
[16:05] <wangcheng> nbbj
[16:05] <alvin_> hello buddies, how can i remove the memtest entries in the grub menu?
[16:05] <wangcheng> nimenhao
[16:05] <r0fs3ck5> comm_: it does.  there is a big long forum post on this which I might be able to track down.
[16:05] <compdoc> harovali, might be best to set up the conenction by hand, and not use NM
[16:05] <Pici> ipgd: Just type what I wrote on a terminal, then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com   and paste the results in
[16:05] <comm_> r0fs3ck5, that would be much appreciated
[16:06] <magicj> what does the messahe : Xlib: extension GLX missing on display - mean?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> harovali, uhmm, why 2 cards . ..afaik hthere's no need for 2 cards to access your lan and the net
[16:07] <ipgd> Pici,http://paste.ubuntu.com/615903/
[16:07] <jconnolly> to anyone wondering, a good place to look for default preferences is ~/.gconf and ~/.local/applications/mimeapps.list ... my issue was in the latter.
[16:08] <jconnolly> props to josephnexus_1 for helping me find it
[16:08] <hitaf> I'm planing to buy a intel gs45 chipset laptop. I heard about some weird terms about intel chipsets (TPM, Intel vPro). Can I turn off these spyware things while using GNU/Linux?
[16:09] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (ubuntu 11.04) Im trying to install an old game that I love (sokoban). I downloaded the files shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615591/. The contents of the Makefile is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615902/, but this Makefile does not work; I get no feedback when I execute in in the terminal, but when I try to close it, theres still a process running. Any ideas? TIA!
[16:10] <Pici> ipgd: Can you run: sudo apt-get update
[16:10] <r0fs3ck5> comm_: is this what you're after? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690345
[16:11] <ipgd> Pici, on process
[16:11] <ipgd> sucessfull
[16:11] <joshuau> Hinthere, I am new to Ubuntu (although i know Ogliv Tron) . My question is installing ubuntu . I get a message from my desktop saying " error loading operating system". whats with that?????
[16:12] <ipgd> now i try to install samba using synaptic ... is that right ?
[16:12] <Pici> ipgd: When that is finished, run: apt-cache policy samba-common    again and pastebin the results
[16:12] <ipgd> oh sorry
[16:14] <didi> Is it possible to change the dahs' META key to another one?
[16:14] <subr00t> oCean: i still get this error http://pastebin.com/wyb8qRFa, shoold i just delete it
[16:14] <subr00t> ?
[16:14] <ipgd> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/615912/
[16:14] <joshuau> HELLO IS ANYONE F@##ING LISTENING?????
[16:14] <r0fs3ck5> comm_: if you try testparm -s, it should tell you what is being shared.
[16:14] <Pici> joshuau: There is no need for that. Please mind your language and attitude here.
[16:15] <joshuau> please answer my question then
[16:15] <comm_> r0fs3ck5, that has some valuable info for me in it... I just need to figure out how to manually create the share via commandline from that was shown with the net usershare info --long
[16:15] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: give more details please.  what kind of hardware are you using?  you probably can't install Ubuntu on your microwave oven.
[16:15] <subr00t> lol
[16:15] <oCean> joshuau: will you please calm down? Your attitude is not acceptable
[16:16] <joshuau> i have a pc desktop (2003) HP pavilion a235.uk with AMD - XP CPU
[16:16] <Pici> ipgd: Hrm.. Thats not going to work then.  It looks like you don't have the updates repo enabled.  You can either enable it via the menus in Software Center / Synaptic, or I could help you do it manually via /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:16] <comm_> r0fs3ck5, found it
[16:16] <squig> didi, yes there are several ways to do it, depending upon the configuration of your system
[16:17] <r0fs3ck5> comm_: :D
[16:17] <subr00t> i get this error after updating the source list http://pastebin.com/wyb8qRFa , what shoold I do?
[16:17] <comm_> looks like I could probably do it by just adding a file to /var/lib/samba/usershares
[16:17] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[16:18] <joshuau> the laest, i have also tried ubuntu netbook 10.04
[16:18] <joshuau> that should have been the tatest also.
[16:18] <iromli> i'm still using lucid but i need libgles package .. does anyone know where i can get this package / source ? is it possible?
[16:18] <joshuau> not tatest.... latest
[16:19] <ipgd> so i enable ubuntu update -> Recommend update ?
[16:19] <galaxy_999> r0fs3ck5, "probably can't install Ubuntu on your microwave oven."
[16:19]  * galaxy_999 challenge accepted
[16:19] <Pici> ipgd: Yes.
[16:19] <ipgd> great ... i'm trying
[16:19] <didi> squig: Could you point me to one of them? I couldn't find it.
[16:19] <ipgd> thx for help Pici
[16:20] <joshuau> WHAT versionshould i try and install??????????????????????
[16:20] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: big name factory built PC's from that era have been known to odd hardware.  Has it been able to boot any OS recently?
[16:20] <galaxy_999> joshuau, install gentoo
[16:20] <joshuau> yes XP is fine.
[16:20] <joshuau> i'll try gentoo.
[16:20] <squig> do you have a menu like system -> preferences -> layouts -> options ->
[16:21] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: no, you will spend all night compiling
[16:21] <didi> squig: I am on the last Ubuntu (11.04)
[16:21] <joshuau> WTF??
[16:21] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: if you get that far.
[16:21] <blueonyx> hi, how to update the library cache? i have a libtcl... file but a program complaints it cant load the shared library
[16:21] <oCean> joshuau: mind your language in this channel
[16:21] <squig> didi, aah :) im new to that windowing system and im not sure where that option might be
[16:22] <joshuau> But can anyone help me here?
[16:22] <didi> squig: oic
[16:22] <didi> squig: That's OK. Thank you.
[16:22] <Dulak> joshuau: if you can't figure out how to get ubuntu running, gentoo is just gonna make you more upset than you are already
[16:22] <oCean> joshuau: you need to be patient, help is not always available. People here are all volunteers, let your attitude reflect that
[16:22] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: make sure you download the ubuntu 10.04 i386 version of ubuntu,  then check the disc for defects and do a memtest on your machine.
[16:22] <joshuau> Right, OK I'm all ears as to the solution to installing linux on my old PC,  .. then?
[16:23] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: if it installs, you will be a happy person.  if not, you will come back here and get more help.
[16:23] <joshuau> like blood from a stone.
[16:24] <sam-_-> will gnome-shell be included in ubuntu 11.10(not just via ppa)?
[16:25] <r0fs3ck5> sam-_-: They had to cut a few packages out of 11.04, so it would fit on the disc.
[16:26] <r0fs3ck5> sam-_-: So I doubt gnome will fit.
[16:26] <sam-_-> r0fs3ck5: y. but gnome-shell isn't even in universe and/or main
[16:26] <r0fs3ck5> sam-_-: you mean in the repos?
[16:26] <squig> is ubuntu 1 cd or 1 dvd now?
[16:27] <sam-_-> r0fs3ck5: y
[16:27] <Pici> sam-_-: Gnome 3 will be in 11.10, but will not be default.
[16:27] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (ubuntu 11.04) Im trying to install an old game that I love (sokoban). I downloaded the files shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615591/. The contents of the Makefile is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615902/, but this Makefile does not work; I get no feedback when I execute in in the terminal, but when I try to close it, theres still a process running. Any ideas? TIA!
[16:27] <squig> Pici, will gnome 2?
[16:27] <sam-_-> Pici: ok. thx.
[16:27] <Pici> squig: I don't think so, but I haven't really looked at all the blueprints from UDS.
[16:27] <joshuau> should i try here:
[16:27] <joshuau> #ubuntu-installer
[16:28] <squig> Pici, whats uds?
[16:28] <sipior> joshuau: what's the question, exactly?
[16:28] <Pici> squig: Ubuntu Developer Summit
[16:28] <Pici> joshuau: That channel is for developers.
[16:28] <joshuau> oh crap,  scroll up a couple of pages and you'll see...
[16:28] <sipior> joshuau: i'll pass
[16:29] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: that second page doesn't exist
[16:29] <joshuau> ok ok last time... i have a hp pavilion a235.uk old pc with a amd-xp cpu. how do i get ubuntu on it???????
[16:30] <joshuau> come on people
[16:30] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: did you try what I said?
[16:30] <squig> have you ubuntu on a disk joshuau ?
[16:30] <tensorpudding> joshuau: you put ubuntu on a cd and boot the cd
[16:30] <sipior> joshuau: what's the problem? an older 32-bit install doesn't work?
[16:30] <tensorpudding> joshuau: what exactly is the error
[16:30] <seesall> if i update ubuntu 9.04 t0 10 what will happen to my data and settings?, i intend to update via update manager
[16:30] <joshuau> yes i do it came up with error loading operating system message
[16:30] <r0fs3ck5> sipior: no, he has a 32 bit cpu
[16:31] <tensorpudding> seesall: user data will be saved
[16:31] <squig> joshuau, which install disk are you using? and how did you set your boot device?
[16:31] <sipior> r0fs3ck5: that's why i said "older 32-bit install"
[16:31] <Guest66677> is there a browser with a core IE
[16:31] <seesall> thanks man
[16:31] <tensorpudding> Guest66677: what do you mean by "core IE"
[16:32] <ft_mn> Hi is there any channel for openoffice help????
[16:32] <Guest66677> yeah
[16:32] <joshuau> i boot change the orde to get the dvd drive to be no.1, the hdd is blank so i guess i'm looking for an answer as to why it won't load the linux os
[16:32] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: have you set your computer to boot from CD?
[16:32] <oCean> ft_mn: #openoffice.org
[16:32] <joshuau> it boots from dvd
[16:32] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: repost http://paste.ubuntu.com/615926/
[16:32] <ft_mn> oCean: thnaks
[16:33] <tensorpudding> ft_mn: #libreoffice maybe?
[16:33] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: right, so it's not reading the cd?
[16:33] <RA_drc> 
[16:33] <squig> joshuau, and which cd are you using which one did you download?
[16:33] <joshuau> possibly i dunno. iguess so.
[16:33] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: can you put a paste of your terminal showing exactly what happens when you run make?
[16:33] <metbsd> where to check my repo i added? and edit them?
[16:33] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: how did you acquire the cd?
[16:33] <joshuau> i downloaded the 32 version of the latest ubuntu straight off the website
[16:34] <squig> joshuau, do you see the dvd spin up?
[16:34] <tensorpudding> metbsd: in software sources under the edit menu in the software center
[16:34] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: did you follow the instructions for buring ISOs to disc?
[16:34] <Guest66677> i need a browser by core IE
[16:34] <sipior> Guest66677: what do you mean by that, exactly?
[16:35] <joshuau> yes it spun as the tennis guy says "chalk threw up " and i had a dvd with ubuntu
[16:35] <pitthappens> anyone, ubuntu 11.04 freezes when i transfer to samba shares
[16:35] <tensorpudding> Guest66677: so you want IE? IE doesn't run on Ubuntu
[16:35] <Belle94> hi guy
[16:35] <BlouBlou> tensorpudding: it does
[16:35] <bchalstrom> dcc chat wwalker
[16:35] <BlouBlou> !wineqh | Guest66677
[16:35] <joshuau> i used win7 to get the ubuntu dvd
[16:35] <BlouBlou> !winehq | Guest66677
[16:35] <tensorpudding> Guest66677: You might be able to run old versions, maybe 7 or 8, I doubt 9 works
[16:36] <joshuau> ok where is that?????
[16:36] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: which program did you use to burn the ISO?
[16:36] <galaxy_999> Guest66677, if by 'ie core' you mean the trident layout engine running native, than the answer is "no"
[16:36] <joshuau> oweriso
[16:36] <joshuau> poweriso soz
[16:36] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: yes, that should work
[16:36] <tensorpudding> poweriso?
[16:36] <pitthappens> #samba
[16:36] <tensorpudding> oh
[16:36] <joshuau> yep
[16:36] <Flimm> I've installed xchat-gnome-indicator, but all it does is add an icon in the messaging indicator
[16:36] <Guest66677> oh i'sorry my english is good
[16:37] <metbsd> where to check my repo i added? and edit them?
[16:37] <NickH> where would i go to get java swing help?
[16:37] <r0fs3ck5> have you tried booting the dvd in another machine?
[16:37] <Belle94> k3b is good for me
[16:37] <joshuau> no i haven't good point
[16:37] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/615930/
[16:37] <baggar11> Is it possible to reassign the unity menu key, the windows(super) key? It likes to interfere with my windows guests on virtualbox.
[16:37] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: try that
[16:37] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: that's not how you run make
[16:38] <galaxy_999> Guest66677, what is your need for running ie?
[16:38] <joshuau> o will do. i'll probably be back in 5 mins or so... see ya
[16:38] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: sorry if it wasn't clear, you need to run the program make, which will parse the Makefile for you
[16:38] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: let us know how you go
[16:39] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: this program is make, so just type make and hit enter
[16:39]  * galaxy_999 guess they left. 
[16:39] <pitthappens> i setup ubuntu 11.04 with name based LAMP stack. It's up and working, and i have samba configuredso that i could transfer files to /var/www folder, however, when i try to do that, the server freezes, anyone have any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[16:39] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: you'll want to run 'sudo make install' too
[16:39] <nimbiotics> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615933/
[16:40] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/615933/
[16:40] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: okay, you are lacking library dependencies
[16:40] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: you don't have SDL
[16:40] <nimbiotics> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615934/
[16:40] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: compiling programs can be difficult
[16:41] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: they often depend on libraries which you might not have on your system
[16:41] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: lol, how do I install it?
[16:41] <r0fs3ck5> sudo make
[16:41] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: well, it's available in the software center
[16:41] <r0fs3ck5> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:42] <raja_> anybody know a need help
[16:42] <kodekamel> I'm having an issue with eclipse/subclipse.  When I add a repository I get an error "Malformed Network Data"  Has anyone ran into this issue?  I'm here in the ubuntu channel because none of other distros have had this problem?
[16:42] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: the package you want is libsdl1.2-dev
[16:43] <raja_> how to download video at youtube if i use ubuntu 11.04
[16:43] <syedomar> hi, can anyone tell me what is crc_ccitt?
[16:43] <syedomar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615909/
[16:44] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: installing, what would be the next step?
[16:44] <nimbiotics> raja_, get minitube
[16:44] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: well, you probably ought to check out the INSTALL file if it exists, or the README
[16:45] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: there might be other dependencies listed in one or both of those files
[16:45] <raja_> ok how to get it nimbiotics
[16:45] <galaxy_999> raja_, 'youtube-dl' its a set of python scripts
[16:45] <nimbiotics> raja_: google?
[16:45] <raja_> ok that mean i must that file first
[16:45]  * galaxy_999 nimbiotics, duckduckgo
[16:45] <Pici> !google
[16:46] <tensorpudding> raja_: minitube is available in the software center
[16:46] <r0fs3ck5> syedomar: no idea
[16:46] <kodekamel> wow.  ubuntu users are noobs
[16:46] <syedomar> :)
[16:46] <raja_> roger TQ
[16:46] <kodekamel> heh.. at least it looks cool.
[16:46] <Pici> kodekamel: Please refrain from such comments in this channel.
[16:46] <tensorpudding> raja_: if you want a program, you should check to see if it is in the software center first, because that is the easiest way to install programs
[16:46] <kodekamel> why man... look at these questions?
[16:46] <Pici> !guidelines | kodekamel
[16:47] <raja_> ok TQ i do it now
[16:47] <kodekamel> I'm not trying to argue bud...  I know the guidlines
[16:47] <dellph> hello how to used rm to delete does not have a filename contains "thumb"
[16:47] <dellph> ?
[16:47] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: the readme file is not helpfull at all, and the only other file is the Makefile shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/615926/, Again, I have no idea how to compile it though
[16:47] <pitthappens> why is everyone in every channel except ubuntu a bunch of buttheads
[16:47] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: okay, did you install libsdl1.2-dev then?
[16:48] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: once you have, try running make again
[16:48] <kodekamel> pitthappens !guidelines lol
[16:48] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: got an Ubuntu relatef question, codecamel?
[16:49] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: it might still fail, but it ought to get further this time
[16:49] <kodekamel> yes...  I was waiting patiently.  However, I post again.
[16:49] <kodekamel> I'm having an issue with eclipse/subclipse.  When I add a repository I get an error "Malformed Network Data"  Has anyone ran into this issue?  I'm here in the ubuntu channel because none of other distros have had this problem?
[16:49] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: I guess its time for me to give up, at least for now; I'm getting a bunch of warnings and errors. THANK YOU very much!
[16:50] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: i'll get back to it some other day though
[16:50] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: where did you find that program, by the way?
[16:50] <dellph> hello how to used rm to delete files does not have a filename contains "thumb"
[16:50] <nibbler_> rm *thumb*
[16:50] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: softpedia, but its listed in many other places
[16:51] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: softpedia is bad bad
[16:51] <nibbler_> dellph, but be careful....
[16:51] <brujoh> is it possible to remount an NFS file system with new mount options without completely unmounting it first?
[16:51] <pitthappens> can anyone please help me, my server running ubuntu 11.04 and samba set up, but when i start transferring files from my windows computer to the server, the entire server stops responding to input
[16:51] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: what gives the error?
[16:51] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: generally they repackage the source
[16:51] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: but anyway
[16:51] <tensorpudding> nimbiotics: have you looked at the sudoku programs in the software center?
[16:51] <oCean> nibbler_: dellph warning: rm *thumb* will remove files that do have thumb as part of the name!
[16:51] <nimbiotics> tensorpudding: I understand but this particular port of the game seems very good, at least compared to the POC in the ubuntu software center
[16:52] <joshuau> hi back again
[16:52] <dellph> nibbler_, i think it will delete the file that contains thumb. what i want is the filename does NOT contains thumb.
[16:52] <kodekamel> r0fs3ck5:  The error is returned by the subclipse plugin inside the eclipse-pde gui.   svn checkout from command line works fine.
[16:52] <joshuau> it does work i'm onit on my main machine now in @trial mode@
[16:53] <dellph> nibbler_, any other ideas?
[16:53] <dellph> oCean, yes. I want the other way around.
[16:53] <dondf0x> LS=$(ls|grep -v thumb);for F in $LS;do rm -rf $F;done
[16:53] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: you mean like this: http://www.svnforum.org/threads/32499-svn-ssh-via-Subclipse-Malformed-network-data?
[16:53] <r0fs3ck5> http://www.svnforum.org/threads/32499-svn-ssh-via-Subclipse-Malformed-network-data
[16:54] <rkhshm> is it possible to execute shell cmds along with sftp invocation to the server directly...(Like its done in ssh)
[16:54] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: seconf link
[16:55] <joshuau> anyone with still?
[16:55] <nibbler_> dellph, sorry for that, i misread you. well, if you dont have special characters or spaces in the filenames: ls |grep -v thumb | xargs rm (to try it out replace rm by echo, so you see the parameter list which you would pass to rm
[16:55] <joshuau> anyone with me still????
[16:55] <sipior> dondf0x: you'll want to be sure to quote those environmental variables, else amusing things will happen if there are spaces in the filenames.
[16:55] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: reported on SUSE also.
[16:56] <dellph> nibbler_, thanks a lot it works. you a genius :D
[16:56] <pitthappens> !guidelines
[16:56] <joshuau> anyone helping me yet???
[16:57] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: yes, bad disc.  burn it to a *cd* using ubuntu.  check the disc afterwards using the instructions on the ubuntu website
[16:57] <razorsharp> joshuau, make sure your machine boots from cd, check the bios.
[16:57] <joshuau> how do i do that??
[16:58] <c2tarun> joshuau, you still having problems with booting system from CD
[16:58] <kodekamel> r0fs3ck5:  I guess that's a similar issue.   I'm not following what you meant by "seconf"
[16:58] <joshuau> no it works fine on my 2008 pc but not on my 2003 pc
[16:59] <razorsharp> joshuau, it's different from bios to bios, try hitting the DEL key repeadedly while booting. if that doesn't get you there, try F2, some also use F11 or F12
[16:59] <kodekamel> r0fs3ck5:  but no... That's what's going on here.
[16:59] <c2tarun> anyone using xchat here?
[16:59] <r0fs3ck5> kodekamel: :).  I'd suggest you would have more luck with the maintainers of that particular package.
[16:59] <joshuau> ok lets say i get to the system setup screen, what do i do then???
[16:59] <j0d0> I have installed Ubuntu on a 40gig SSD but would like to run all my files and programs from a small RAID. All hardware is operational but I am not sure how to install a program like VMware onto a second hard drive for regular use. help?
[17:00] <KM0201> c2tarun: probably a lot of people
[17:00] <c2tarun> KM0201, how can I turn off join/part notifications?
[17:00] <kodekamel> I agree.  Thanks for look.  I was just hoping to find someone with the same issue.
[17:00] <Pici> !quietxchat | c2tarun
[17:00] <joshuau> ...
[17:00] <c2tarun> Pici, that's helpful :) thanks
[17:01] <KM0201> c2tarun: right click a channel, settings "hide join part"... put a check next to it
[17:01] <razorsharp> joshuau, there should be a boot option, should be obvious if not well walk you thru.
[17:01] <c2tarun> KM0201, oh.. that was easy :)
[17:01] <rayvtirx> i seem to have lost the default coloring of directorys, executables etc in the console of ubuntu server, any idea how to get them back?
[17:01] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: did you change your shell, or delete your shell configuration file?
[17:02] <nuefox> Is there a way to install Ubuntu, in AHCI mode, while having a SSD drive, but trying to install another hdd? :)
[17:02] <joshuau> Yes OK OK but i think the boot order is fine . it boots the dvd drive first anyway.
[17:02] <skor> anyone else have a problem with javaws and clicking "run" when prompted with a website certificate warning ?
[17:02] <rayvtirx> i havnt changed it so i guess i must have deleted it
[17:02] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: what do you get when you run 'which ls'
[17:03] <rayvtirx>  /bin/ls
[17:03] <skor> all I can find on google is someone else asking the same question
[17:03] <BluesKaj> joshuau, sorry to interrupt, but are you trying to install ubuntu natty using the livecd on a pc made in 2003 ?
[17:03] <joshuau> maybe i need ubuntu 7 or 8 but where are they?
[17:04] <joshuau> BluesKaj that is correct
[17:04] <c2tarun> BluesKaj, well is that a problem?
[17:04] <HelloWorld321> Are folders or PDFs cached by default?  If I keep printing a PDF, and the old data keeps showing up, should I just clear some buffer somewhere?
[17:04] <rww> It shouldn't be, I've done it several times.
[17:04] <d1gital> Background
[17:04] <d1gital> Header Logo
[17:04] <d1gital> Body
[17:04] <d1gital> Link
[17:04] <d1gital> Link Hover
[17:04] <BluesKaj> joshuau, then you should try the alternate ubuntu install instead
[17:04] <FloodBot1> d1gital: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <d1gital> Add Your CSS
[17:05] <BluesKaj> !alternate | joshuau
[17:05] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: yeah, i think the colors are from ls --color=auto
[17:05] <j0d0> How can I move my /home to a second hdd?
[17:05] <joshuau> where, where, oh where do i find an alternative install?????????????????????
[17:05] <yokahu> hi
[17:05] <rigg> hi guys
[17:05] <d1gital>  I am getting this error when I try to start terminator: "Unable to start shell:/bin/bash".  Tried reinstalling, terminator, python2: no go.  strace: http://pastebin.com/D48WFbYF
[17:05] <joshuau> ok i see it now.
[17:05] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: try running that command
[17:05] <oCean> joshuau: did you even read that message?
[17:05] <skor> I thought the liveCD can fall back to text mode
[17:05] <skor> there was an option at boot IIRC ??
[17:05] <BluesKaj> joshuau, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[17:06] <skor> must be a different distro, nevermind me
[17:06] <rigg> anybody having laptop overheating issue?
[17:06] <rayvtirx> it goes back to color when i use that command how can i set it so its like that all the time?
[17:06] <_r> can
[17:06] <BluesKaj> not alternative , joshuau , alternat\\\\\\\\\\\\
[17:06] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:06] <yokahu> tyig out linix  ubuntu from pendrive .
[17:07] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: you ought to restore the original .bashrc file
[17:07] <rigg> anybody even on a laptop right now?
[17:07] <dellph> nibbler_, ls /tmp/screen |grep -v thumb | xargs echo i tried to put /tmp/screen to specified folder but the specified folder the files are not delete any ideas?
[17:07] <_r> rigg: I am
[17:07] <oCean> rigg: many, many users are
[17:07] <rayvtirx> how would i do that?
[17:07] <razorsharp> joshuau, look at the bios just to be sure, because cd drivers get initialized at boot, so you would think it is trying to boot from cd.
[17:07] <_r> Can someone help me with this error from using nmcli?
[17:07] <yokahu> How can i instat  into hard disc partition without affec ting my windows OS?
[17:07] <rigg> well anybody having overheating problems?
[17:07] <_r> ** (process:9197): WARNING **: fetch_connections_done: error fetching user connections: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings was not provided by any .service files.
[17:08] <skor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/779786   <--- that's the exact problem I've having
[17:08] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[17:08] <yokahu> open private window
[17:08] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: run 'cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc' and close and re-open the terminal
[17:08] <joshuau> look at the bios... what am i looking for?
[17:08] <Pici> !who
[17:08] <skor> joshuau: your not using a DVD in a CD drive are you ?
[17:09] <skor> just checking.. I've done that before
[17:09] <yokahu> anyone can help me on insytaling ubuntu ?
[17:09] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: look for boot device priority or something like that
[17:09] <joshuau> no its a blinkin' dvd drive !
[17:09] <bLaCkEnErGy> hello, here can i get a little help ?
[17:09] <joshuau> boot priority fine
[17:10] <rayvtirx> tensorpudding: has not reset it unfortunately
[17:10] <joshuau> 1, dvd.... 2, hdd, .... 3, cd
[17:10] <asteig> yokahu: What trouble did you run into attempting to install it?
[17:10] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: set DVD to 1, CD to 2, just to be sure.
[17:10] <razorsharp> joshuau, put the hdd at the very end
[17:10] <joshuau> it said : 'ERROR LOADING OPERATING SYSTEM'
[17:10] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: well, pastebin your ~/.bashrc file
[17:11] <gdudubnium> Error check the cd?
[17:11] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: is your optical drive set to master or slave?
[17:11] <joshuau> I'M 50% of downing the alternate instalation. thanx
[17:11] <joshuau> master
[17:12] <r0fs3ck5> joshuau: good.  tell us how you go when you have tried the alternate
[17:12] <rayvtirx> http://pastebin.com/66qPpePg
[17:12] <joshuau> ok i'll be a happy bunny if it works for me
[17:14] <yokahu> asteig  how do i instal  ubuntu without damaging my windows  7 OS in same  harddrive?
[17:15] <f00fSteR> you install windows and then install ubuntu and install grub make sure you install the bootloader in the mbr
[17:15] <f00fSteR> and you'll be able to dual boot
[17:15] <f00fSteR> through grub
[17:15] <asteig> yokahu: You can also do a virtual machine using a program like Virtual Box as well, if you just want to try it out.
[17:16] <bLaCkEnErGy> hello. i have a problem : i tried to install "Kopete" and i get the next error "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it now" and i chosse Repair.. but after some min i get the failed msg :( how can i remove it.. or how can i remove manual the kopete? pls someone help me :(
[17:16] <trecc> please help im desperate!!
[17:17] <dondf0x> ?
[17:17] <Pici> trecc: I don't see that you've even asked a question yet.
[17:17] <trecc> i wanna why why natty uses too much cpu
[17:17] <trecc> wanna know*
[17:17] <yokahu> Virtual machine of  what Ubuntu  using  Virtual Box?
[17:17] <galaxy_999> Pici: thats why he needs help
[17:18] <bLaCkEnErGy> i`m using Ubuntu 11.04
[17:18] <trecc> on a laptop
[17:19] <trecc> windows 7 runs with 52-53 natty uses 60-61C
[17:19] <yokahu> what is mbr , bootloader and grub ? were is there tutorial?
[17:19] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: that's the right .bashrc
[17:19] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: if closing your terminal doesn't fix it, logging out then logging in will
[17:20] <marcelo> hi
[17:20] <WinterFox> There is who from Russia?
[17:20] <rayvtirx> i think i may have deleted something from the home directory
[17:20] <razorsharp> trecc, type top in a terminal to see the culprit
[17:20] <eiriksvin> hi people :P how do I get the Audio and Video Codecs for Ubuntu 11.04
[17:20] <Guest10831> somebody knows how to change the user image in xfce4 (Xubuntu 11) ??
[17:20] <nawk> Hi, I have a Ubuntu (11.04) LiveCD Stick, but I have used up the space on the aufs filesystem and now the preinstalled system is messed up.   I am trying to delete some files off the aufs, but I can't locate where the files (where persistent changes were made) reside
[17:20] <rayvtirx> i allready have done tensorpudding
[17:20] <nawk> can someone please help me out?
[17:21] <beef-supreme> hello
[17:21] <beef-supreme> i have a problem with thunar
[17:21] <rayvtirx> its still all in white
[17:21] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: okay, give me the output of 'echo $SHELL'
[17:21] <nawk> the naive way would be to burn the LiveCD iso again to my usb stick
[17:21] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: is it bash?
[17:21] <Guest10831> nawk?
[17:21] <trecc> razorsharp: i just switched on win7 but natty runs hot all the time and the cpu goes crazy
[17:21] <Guest10831> Im not sure if I understanding you
[17:21] <rayvtirx>  /bin/bash
[17:21] <Guest10831> are you installing and your hd data is lost?
[17:22] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me how do I get the Audio and Video Codecs for Ubuntu 11.04
[17:22] <Guest10831> erik
[17:22] <Guest10831> you must
[17:22] <Guest10831> install
[17:22] <Guest10831> the extras
[17:22] <nawk> when I say used up, I mean there's like (close to) zero bytes available
[17:22] <FloodBot1> Guest10831: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <Guest10831> oh
[17:22] <eiriksvin> what extras?
[17:22] <Dulak> trecc: sounds like on ubuntu the fans are not being spun up and/or regulated correctly, had that issue on a dell laptop, it took a bios update to fix it
[17:22] <Guest10831> wait a minute
[17:22] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: and it doesn't work?
[17:22] <Guest10831> or as econd
[17:22] <Pici> eiriksvin: Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[17:23] <nawk> hi tensorpudding
[17:23] <rayvtirx> no still all white
[17:23] <trecc> dulak: this is an hp pavilion
[17:23] <eiriksvin> apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:23] <eiriksvin> is that it?
[17:23] <Guest10831> did you install sudo apt-get -y install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:23] <Guest10831> ?
[17:23] <Pici> eiriksvin: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:23] <Guest10831> yes
[17:23] <nawk> Hi, I have a Ubuntu (11.04) LiveCD Stick, but I have used up ALL the space on the aufs filesystem and now the preinstalled system is messed up.   I am trying to delete some files off the aufs, but I can't locate where the files (where persistent changes were made) reside
[17:23] <eiriksvin> kk
[17:23] <Guest10831> Nawk
[17:23] <Guest10831> I think
[17:23] <eiriksvin> thank you!!
[17:23] <Guest10831> it happened to me
[17:23] <Guest10831> yesterday
[17:23] <Pici> !enter | Guest10831
[17:24] <bLaCkEnErGy> can someone help me plsss ??
[17:24] <Guest10831> I fixed it formatting
[17:24] <Guest10831> the USB stick
[17:24] <Dulak> trecc: get the latest bios from HP for your laptop and flash it, that fixed my overheating issue under ubuntu.  It may or may not fix yours but it can't really hurt
[17:24] <FloodBot1> Guest10831: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <Guest10831> with a Windows Machine
[17:24] <Guest10831> :(
[17:24] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: what about 'echo $TERM'
[17:24] <nawk> Guest10831: yes, the naive way would be to burn the iso again to the usb stick
[17:24] <yokahu> asteig do i  searsh and instal virtual box while booted on windows 7 or while booted on  ubuntu?
[17:25] <sam-_-> gnome-session gives me this: gnome-session[5699]: WARNING: Cannot use session '/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/2d-ubuntu.session': no component in the session.
[17:25] <trecc> Dulak: ok thanks i'll try to find and install the latest bios update
[17:25] <Guest10831> PLEASE somebody knows how to change the USER ICON on XFCE4 (Xubuntu 11) ???
[17:25] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: this is very odd
[17:25] <Pici> Guest10831: You might have better luck asking in #xubuntu
[17:25] <sam-_-> what does it mean?
[17:26] <rayvtirx> should i have a .dircolors file in home
[17:26] <Guest10831> how can I change the channel?¿
[17:26] <eiriksvin> wow they musta cleaned up the repo, cus it d/l-ing at 1.2mb/sec :D
[17:26] <rayvtirx> echo $TERM gives me xterm
[17:26] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: i don't think it should matter
[17:26] <Pici> Guest10831: /join #xubuntu
[17:26] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: oh, that's your problem
[17:26] <asteig> yokahu: Google for "virtualbox" and install it on Windows 7. The site that you download it from has tutorials.
[17:27] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: it probably doesn't think that xterm can show colors?
[17:27] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: or something
[17:27] <prod___> Hi all, i really need a push in the right direction. I need to share users and groups across my lan so that all the computers on the lan can access my NFS shares and manipulate files with their respective permissions. What software would i use to accomplish this?
[17:27] <yokahu> for someone  computer inliterate as me how do i dual boot  my  acer   windows 7 machine with ubuntu ? I  currently am booted into ubuntu 11,4  using pendrive
[17:27] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: that would be kinda odd though
[17:28] <yokahu> dont want to spoil my  windows partition , However i partitio?
[17:28] <akakak> prod___: are you in a workplace or at home? Do you have windows machines currently connected to your network?
[17:28] <rayvtirx> may be something to do with my installing ubuntu-dektop then removing it
[17:29] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: i don't think so
[17:29] <Guest10831> Yohaku, first of all make the backups
[17:29] <Guest10831> new Ubuntu CDs come with an option "install and live with Windows"
[17:29] <galaxy_999> yokahu: f00fSteR already answered that question earlier
[17:30] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: well, if nothing else works, just try adding 'alias ls="ls --color=auto"' as the last line of ~/.bashrc
[17:30] <prod___> akakak: Its a home network although i am not really concerned about serving the windows machines. Nonetheless i wouldnt mind if your solution would help both
[17:30] <b6679100> hey frakkers
[17:31] <b6679100> My course in Linux is nearly done thank fu ck
[17:31] <yokahu> asteig , so this allows me to fully expirience the unlimited ubuntu 11.4 without any limitations, like i am currenly having issues downloading and instaling certain programs like miro while booted on  ubuntu via  pendrive
[17:31] <b6679100> i doubt ill touch linux for a while it may be worth just sticking to windoze....
[17:31] <tensorpudding> yokahu: the installer will have an option to resize windows, giving you room to install ubuntu, this will be the option you want
[17:31] <tensorpudding> !language | b6679100
[17:32] <b6679100> dont tel me what to do
[17:32] <Dulak> it's troll day apparently
[17:32] <rkhshm> guys is it possible to execute cmds directly from the sftp cmd line while logging in to the server as can be done with ssh ?
[17:32] <tensorpudding> there are trolls everyday
[17:32] <rayvtirx> no hasnt worked
[17:32] <RA_drc> b6679100: *don't frakking tell me what to do, toasters.  FTFY
[17:32] <maco> rkhshm: some commands are available
[17:33] <maco> rkhshm: not nearly the full range you have with ssh though
[17:33] <Dulak> rkhshm: not arbitrary commands no, you'd need to use ssh directly
[17:33] <tensorpudding> yokahu: if you install ubuntu this way, you'll be able to boot both windows and ubuntu fine
[17:33] <rkhshm> maco: yes I'm aware that .. But I'd like to know how to do it.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> b6679100, well then go back to win dows ,,,threatening to do so makes no difference to us
[17:33] <rkhshm> maco: something simple as 'ls -l' is available in sftp
[17:33] <rkhshm> however how do i pass the same directly in the cmd line?
[17:33] <yokahu> tensorpudding you mean i can go ahead and instal   ubuntu 11.4   usingpendrive while booted using pendrive without afecting my win 7 OS
[17:34] <akakak> prod___: if you have to service samba clients, it'd probably be easiest to just set up the share as a cifs or smb share, and set the permissions of the share to a user of a specific machine on your network. Such as if you have a windows client named 'clientA', you could add some users to 'clientA' that the rest of your users on your home network would use to access the share with
[17:34] <tensorpudding> yokahu: it will affect windows 7, but not in a destructive way
[17:34] <razorsharp> yokahu, like everyone said, first do a backup, then boot the cd follow the recommended settings, and you will be good.
[17:35] <tensorpudding> yokahu: it will resize the windows 7 partition to make room for ubuntu, but this doesn't affect files on the partition
[17:35] <akakak> prod___: then on the new smb share, add the permissions of the new users you created in the fashion on "clientA\user1"
[17:36] <rkhshm> maco: any ideas?
[17:36] <prod___> akakak: ill try and explain exactly what i am tryin to do and why i am using nfs.
[17:36] <akakak> prod___: using this method basically gives anyone a login to that windows machine that you're adding the "permissions" users for though.
[17:36] <BluesKaj> b6679100, then go back to windows ,,,threatening to do so makes no difference to us.
[17:36] <maco> rkhshm: i dont think you can switch to a full shell from sftp
[17:36] <yokahu> Why is backup nessesary if it does not afect files or window OS?
[17:36] <tensorpudding> yokahu: well, it's somewhat of a lie, it doesn't change the files, but the filesystem
[17:37] <RA_drc> b6679100: ohmigod why are you going back to windows
[17:37] <tensorpudding> yokahu: there was the possibility of bugs causing filesystem corruption, but nowadays the filesystem driver is very robust
[17:37] <akakak> prod___: alrighty. I used that method to give my gf and I access to a backup directory on my media server, while also keeping my media server's media directories open for public users if they come over and want to share media with me
[17:38] <prod___> akakak: I have a virtual machine runnin which is host to an openvpn client and transmission-daemon. This machine will be saving the downloads to a nfs directory mounted in its FS. The nfs-server will be running on the domain-0 and will also be sharing the downloads directory out to all the other *nix machines.
[17:38] <tensorpudding> yokahu: you could still have problems if, say, you lost power while you were resizing, then you could well be completely ruined
[17:39] <prod___> akakak: I have many other thing that i will be addin to the VM that will serv anonimity to my local network
[17:39] <b6679100> prod: chat nicley
[17:39] <Devio> could someone explain why whenever I press ctrl my typing cursor goes and I cant access menus please? I've looked everywhere and I cant find what I've pressed for this to happen :(
[17:39] <akakak> chat nicely?
[17:39] <akakak> :)
[17:39] <galaxy_999> yokahu: and drives these days are very flaky . sometimes things go wrong
[17:40] <b6679100> akakak: stay out of it
[17:40] <galaxy_999> !ot
[17:40] <b6679100> !language galaxy_999
[17:40] <BluesKaj> yokahu, backup is always suggested as a precaution when editing partitions , it's atandard practice
[17:40] <galaxy_999> urdoinitrong
[17:41] <b6679100> !ot
[17:41] <bh> how do i setup swap space
[17:41] <b6679100> !guidelines
[17:41] <akakak> wow.
[17:41] <tensorpudding> yokahu: people suggest backing up because that is the safest route, and while i can't say it's a bad idea, i've not heard of anyone having issues with data loss while resizing partitions in a good long time, and i personally don't back up files on a partition i am going to resize
[17:41] <rww> b6679100: While I admire your desire to educate people about channel rules, could you be a little more relevant and nice about it?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !swap | bh
[17:42] <b6679100> rww not today i am leaving i got work todo
[17:42] <erle-> how can i create a new account with encrypted home dir?
[17:42] <rayvtirx> well thanks for trying to help anyway , i will use ls --color=auto for now
[17:42] <b6679100> i will come back and help out later
[17:42] <sipior> no hurry.
[17:42] <akakak> thank god.
[17:42] <bh> thanks for the swap page
[17:42] <galaxy_999> erle-: have you already set the machine up or are you doing a fresh install?
[17:43] <erle-> galaxy_999, already set up
[17:43] <akakak> prod___: you could use smb to accomplish that task
[17:43] <erle-> galaxy_999, i want a second account
[17:43] <Devio> does no one know a solution to my question? :<
[17:43] <akakak> and then have it available for your windows users as well as your *nix users
[17:44] <erle-> galaxy_999, 11.04 ubuntu
[17:45] <galaxy_999> erle-: dont know about 11.* but, have you consulted the community help pages yet?
[17:45]  * galaxy_999 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[17:45] <bh> i have been hearing about MODIFYING THE LINUX KERNEL (Android).how does code written for X86 work for ARM?do they rewrite all the code
[17:45] <prod___> akakak: But what is the linux equivalent for doing this? later down the road i would like to be able to do a lot of work with PXE booting thin/discless and virtual machines
[17:46] <rww> bh: Try #android or ##linux. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support.
[17:46] <trecc> Dulak: hey i think that solved my problem
[17:46] <qin> Devio: In what program? Ctrl usually trigger command shortcut
[17:46] <bh> sorry!
[17:46] <Devio> in everything, it makes me unable to type anywhere
[17:46] <prod___> akakak: as i understand nfs is a very clean way of doing this
[17:46] <Devio> also makes menus unusable
[17:46] <Devio> however, my type cursor comes back and menus are clickable if i hold CTRL again
[17:47] <f00fSteR> Devio, it's your gdm mouse drivers
[17:47] <qin> Devio: If you press Esc does it help?
[17:47] <Devio> no
[17:47] <f00fSteR> Devio, check out the ubuntu forums for mouse click freeze after install this problem has been solved many times
[17:47] <beef-supreme> thunar problem here
[17:47] <beef-supreme> anyone?
[17:47] <prod___> akakak: so far i have read a little about NIS, LDAP, PAM but i am lost in the sea of jargon
[17:47] <Devio> it's nothing to do with my mouse f00fSteR
[17:47] <Devio> my mouse is fine 100% of the time
[17:48] <Devio> certain other buttons make it happen do like "dash" and "percent" which i just found out
[17:48] <qin> Devio: Check accesibilty, and setting in keyboard section
[17:48] <Devio> it's all unchecked
[17:48] <bh> i have been using ubuntu 8.04 and i know it isn't supported but i heard you can install BULID-ESSENTIAL using the desktop cd
[17:48] <BrainVirus> any networking pros here i can pester with a question?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> prod___, NFS works with linux to linux , not so well linux to windows unless you want to buy a windows NFS server app.
[17:48] <Devio> qin: should any of that be checked? i've not changed anything, it randomly started happening 2 days ago
[17:48] <BrainVirus> a hostname issue
[17:49] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: What's the issue?
[17:49] <qin> Devio: I recall, one for Shift (hardshift), and something about keycombos. A minute.
[17:49] <prod___> Blueskaj: as i mentioned earlier i am not really interested about serving my windows machines. This is a linux project really
[17:49] <nicoulaj> Hi, Unity does not start since latest upgrades, am I the only experiencing this ? Black screen after the splash screen, recovery mode with failsafeX works fine
[17:50] <galaxy_999> erle-: as an aside note: if youre concerned about privacy and security you may also want to investigate using whole disk encryption. as having an encrypted ~/ (while it offers many advantages) has many limitations
[17:50] <Devio> qin: another symptom from this aside from type cursor vanishing and menu locking is I cant move windows when I drag them
[17:50] <user12> can i create a bootable usb for two operating systems. I am planning to buy 32 Gb usb drive and put both windows and ubuntu so that when it crashes i can use it to boot and restore
[17:51] <jkoudys> I'm using the file menu bar in the top panel thing that ubuntu one has. Can I make it so the window title + the file menu options are always visible (like in OSX), ie I don't have to bring my mouse to the top to see the options?
[17:51] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  I have setup ubuntu 10.04 and i am not able to ping the hostname from another machine. I can ping the host name from the ubuntu box itself. I have tried editing dhclient.conf, installing winbind, samba, and editing the nsswitch.conf file to include wins
[17:51] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  the other issue about my setup is that i have a bridged connection, dont know if that matters
[17:51] <qin> Devio: gnome-keyboard-setting > tab Accesibility > Sticky keys ?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> BrainVirus: what's in /etc/hosts ?
[17:52] <Devio> qin: it's unchecked, should it be?
[17:52] <qin> Devio: No
[17:52] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: the easiest resolution is to just add the hostname to your hosts file on the windows machine.
[17:52] <qin> Devio: Delay? (in tab General)
[17:52] <BrainVirus> MonkeyDust: 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 sauron
[17:53] <Devio> qin: that is checked
[17:53] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: wouldnt that enatil setting a static ip for the machine?
[17:53] <BrainVirus> entail*
[17:53] <Devio> qin: changing sticky keys didn't fix anything
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> BrainVirus: sauron should point to your pc's ip-adres, that it gets from the router
[17:53] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: That would make it reliable...so yes
[17:53] <EastDallas> btw...is the other machine a windows machine?
[17:54] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  yes,
[17:54] <Dulak> trecc: glad that worked, it's nice when something so simple solves an issue
[17:54] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  MonkeyDust i need to have a dynamic ip for this machine because its going to be moved around in different networks
[17:54] <BrainVirus> it essentially needs to be plug and play
[17:54] <qin> Devio: No idea then, set new (dummy) keyboard layout to see if it do not work well too.
[17:55] <Silowyi> is there any way from a kern oom log to figure out what is causing the server to go oom?
[17:55] <BluesKaj> sry prod___ din't see your earlier post
[17:55] <erle-> can root change the password of a user with an encrypted directory?
[17:55] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: You'll have to get WINS support working. Will this all be on the same network?  That the hostname needs to be resolvable?
[17:55] <qin> erle-: Yes
[17:55] <Graeleight> what's the best way to maintain a CLASSPATH? scripts at startup?
[17:55] <Dulak> erle-: yes the password for an account is seperate from the home dir, they are not related at all
[17:56] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  yes, it needs to be resolvable. I tried adding wins to the nsswitch.conf file to no avail
[17:56] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: does it need to be resolvable on multiple networks, or just the one you are connected to now?
[17:56] <erle-> Dulak, and how is the home dir decrypted then?
[17:56] <sparkle33> is there a configuration file to change the language of gnome? I dont have access to gdm and system>administration doesn't give me the option to
[17:57] <erle-> Dulak, isnt it decrypted at login with help of the login password?
[17:57] <beef-supreme> anyone on?
[17:57] <BrainVirus> EastDallas:  the one i have it on now.
[17:57] <tensorpudding> sparkle33: language support
[17:57] <Dulak> erle-: on login the password is checked, then used to decrpyt the home dir, then mounted where it's supposed to be
[17:57] <beef-supreme> does anyone use thunar?
[17:57] <WXZ> I have an external NTFS partition with a bunch of empty folders, and I can't delete them I keep getting "directory not empty" even with sudo rm -f -r /foo
[17:57] <Dulak> erle-: but the password for login is not kept in the encrypted volume
[17:58] <erle-> Dulak, but there must be a secret to protect the encrypted dir
[17:58] <EastDallas> OK, then it's probably do-able...
[17:58] <timposey> I am trying to get wvdial to work with a 3g modem on ubuntu 10.04 but ttyusb0 is not showing in /dev/ any ideas
[17:58] <erle-> Dulak, of course not, i didnt say anything like that
[17:58] <ericthegreat> hello
[17:59] <erle-> Dulak, if the users login password is not needed vor decryption, than root can decrypt any encrypted home dir
[17:59] <Silowyi> Is there any way from a kern.log with OOM Killer entries to figure out what is causing the server to go oom?
[17:59] <ericthegreat> i have tryed 5 billion things to start my windows partition (which messed up after grub was installed worked fine after ubuntu install)
[17:59] <rayvtirx> tensorpudding: fixed it despite exiting and logging back in with no luck, i typed source ~/.bashrc and color is back permanently it seems
[18:00] <ericthegreat> here is my boot info file I know /dev/sda1 is windows
[18:00] <ericthegreat> http://pastebin.com/C5qRfk7s
[18:00] <Dulak> erle-: yes, root is the superuser, it has all access, to everything.  How else would you fix things when they get borked
[18:00] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: I'm trying to find you step-by-step instrux...just a second.
[18:00] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: the thing that kills me is that it was working on a previous installation.
[18:00] <rayvtirx> damn no its not permanent lol
[18:00] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: thankyou so much
[18:01] <ericthegreat> if anyone could help me would be greatly appreciated I been at this for hours
[18:01] <erle-> Dulak, you should not be able to access an encrypted file without the secret
[18:01] <erle-> Dulak, they should not call in encryption then
[18:01] <Dulak> erle-: afaik the password is the secret, and root has access to that
[18:01] <WXZ> I have an external NTFS partition with a bunch of empty folders, and I can't delete them I keep getting "directory not empty" even with sudo rm -f -r /foo
[18:01] <erle-> why should he? and how?
[18:01] <sipior> erle-: root cannot decrypt the volume. root does not have access to passwords (only password hashes).
[18:02] <tensorpudding> rayvtirx: it would seem that your problem is that .bashrc isn't getting sourced
[18:02] <beef-supreme> does anyone here use THUNAR?
[18:02] <tase> helphelp! my windows are losing their containers! (title bar, edges)
[18:02] <tase> ubuntu 11.04 64b
[18:02] <erle-> sipior, how is the encryption worth anything then?
[18:02] <aeon-ltd> beef-supreme: have done
[18:02] <erle-> sipior, to protect against non-root-users no encryption is needed
[18:02] <beef-supreme> aeon-ltd, i can't seam to be able to mount parititons
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> tase:  you mean your 'window decoration' - perhaps due to compiz crashing.
[18:02] <galaxy_999> !anyone | beef-supreme
[18:03] <aeon-ltd> tase: metacity --replace (or compiz --replace) if you use compiz, that will return them but you might wan to find out whats crashing it
[18:03] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: are you able to navigate to samba shares on the ubuntu box from a windows box using hostname?
[18:03] <sipior> erle-: i just told you that root cannot decrypt the volume. what's the problem?
[18:03] <aeon-ltd> beef-supreme: do you have vol-man (volume manager?)
[18:03] <Dulak> erle-: yeah sipior is right, root can change the password, but you'd need to input the old one so it can decrpyt the volume and reencrypt the volume with the new password
[18:03] <erle-> sipior, sorry, i confused the two of you
[18:03] <beef-supreme> aeon-ltd, thunar-volman?
[18:03] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: i cant even ping the ubuntu box by hostname
[18:03] <sipior> erle-: of course, a root user can always start a keylogger, and get you to give them the password. not much to do against that.
[18:03] <aeon-ltd> beef-supreme: yeah
[18:03] <Dulak> erle-: i wasn't clear enough in my description of the login/decrpytion process
[18:03] <joshua__> can i ask a question?
[18:03] <Graeleight> join /#java
[18:03] <sipior> erle-: barring two-factor authentication, &cet.
[18:03] <beef-supreme> aeon-ltd, yes i do, but whenever i click a partition it says "authentification required"
[18:03] <aeon-ltd> joshua__: ask, don't ask to ask
[18:04] <erle-> Dulak, how is it implemented? is the user asked at login for both passwords?
[18:04] <ericthegreat> guess you guys are busy ill wait a bit
[18:04] <vcarney> anybody know how to connect Evolution to Exchange 2010???
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> beef-supreme: are they encrypted?
[18:04] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: Ping is TCP/IP.  hostnames are netbios
[18:04] <beef-supreme> aeon-ltd, nope
[18:04] <EastDallas> (wins)
[18:04] <tase> aeon-ltd, Dr_Willis, is there a crash log or anything I could check ?
[18:04] <joshua__> ok, i want to edit a file in my c drive but it says i must be the owner of the pc... BUT i am already the administrator so what do i do
[18:04] <aeon-ltd> beef-supreme: when you use 'sudo thunar' can you browse them fine? (btw don't delete or change anything when using sudo)
[18:05] <Dulak> erle-: the password is asked for once, it's hashed and matched to the password hash that root has access to, if it matches, the password is passed to the decrypt to be used as the secret.  root only has access to the hash, not the original password
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> joshua__:   Mount the drive with the proper permissions. or edit the file as the root user.
[18:05] <tensorpudding> joshua__: this is in ubuntu, trying to modify files on an ntfs volume?
[18:05] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: yes, but i should be able to ping the hostname. Unless you cant ping a linux box by hostname like you can a windows
[18:06] <joshua__> ok i will try, and i am the root user... and no in my file system... it is a sound file
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> joshua__:  assuming the filesystem is not mounted read only. You could do a  --> gksudo gedit /media/thediskname/path/to./the/file
[18:06] <tensorpudding> joshua__: try installing NTFS Configuration Tool from the software center
[18:06] <joshua__> ok thanks
[18:06] <Dulak> erle-: so root can change the login password, but without the original password, root cannot decrpyt the volume, since the hash of the password is not the password itself
[18:06] <tensorpudding> joshua__: this makes it easier to edit files on those volumes by regular users
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> joshua__:  every file is in a filesystem.. :)
[18:06] <vcarney> is there any Linux email client that will work with Exchange 2010?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-confif also works with vfat
[18:07] <joshua__> ok, thanks, i am actually really new to ubuntu buuut I LOVE IT! lol
[18:07] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: you should be able to, but if ping is your only issue is it absolutely necessary that ping works for you.?
[18:07] <eiriksvin> whats a good DVD backup tool thats easy to use?
[18:07] <tase> Is there a way to resize title bar height in compizconfig ?
[18:07] <eiriksvin> I got a 1TB hdd in my ps3 and I want to put my fav DVDs on it :P
[18:08] <BrainVirus> EastDallas: thats not my only problem, i cant navigate to it.   i.e. https://sauron/ebox/ should pull up the ebox interface
[18:08] <sipior> eiriksvin: handbrake is pretty good
[18:08] <BrainVirus> but i get a server not found
[18:08] <eiriksvin> thanks, ill give it a try :P
[18:09] <ericthegreat> could anyone look over my boot info?
[18:09] <ericthegreat> I cannot boot windows
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> eiriksvin:  you mean video dvd -> some video file format?
[18:10] <BrainVirus> EastDallas dhclient.conf sets my host name to: "<hostname>" and when i change it to send sauron, it stilll doesnt work and it loses the changes i made after reboot.
[18:10] <EastDallas> BrainVirus: did you get my PM?
[18:10] <ericthegreat> http://pastebin.com/C5qRfk7s
[18:12] <timposey> how do I get a 3g usb modem to appear as ttyUSB0 in dev files
[18:12] <|Anthony|> any way to exclude a PCI address from system probing/recognition?
[18:12] <|Anthony|> I have an integrated video chip that compiz complains about
[18:12] <ericthegreat> brb
[18:14] <asmara> hi...............
[18:14] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, set your hostname in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:15] <ccta> how do you restart a tap interface
[18:15] <eiriksvin> is there a way to make .avi with handbrake?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> eiriksvin, you can with ffmpeg
[18:16] <ccta> or stop a tap interface
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> eiriksvin:  avi is just a container.  You can convert whatever handbreak does to avi if you really want to.. but i dont see much point in using avi these days
[18:16] <eiriksvin> well, I want to put it on my ps3
[18:17] <eiriksvin> thats why i want to backup
[18:17] <Dulak> eiriksvin: doesn't ps3 recognize mkv or mp4 formats?
[18:17] <Devio> qin: sorry for the delay, no nothing worked...
[18:18] <eiriksvin> idk, never tried it
[18:18] <BrainVirus> BluesKaj: whats the syntax for adding it there?
[18:18] <WXZ> I have an external NTFS partition with a bunch of empty folders, and I can't delete them I keep getting "directory not empty" even with sudo rm -f -r /foo
[18:18] <Dulak> eiriksvin: i prefer mp4 myself, file sizes are much smaller for comparable quality
[18:18] <Devio> qin: are there any shortcuts that would make things like this happen for any reason? if it's any significance, it's only my left control
[18:19] <BluesKaj> nameserver IP, BrainVirus
[18:19] <eiriksvin> well, I'll give it a test run on my harry potter
[18:20] <eiriksvin> my son loves that movie
[18:20] <eiriksvin> it puts it out as an m4v ?
[18:21] <ccta> anyway to restart a tap interface without restarting?
[18:21] <xirtam> strange stuff ... i installed netty and use gnome ...
[18:21] <guntbert> eiriksvin: please keep your contributions to support, and keep then on one line (don't press <enter> so often)
[18:22] <xirtam> when i set a theme gnome appears with this theme and sets it back to default after some seconds ...
[18:22] <BrainVirus> BluesKaj: would that require a static ip for the ubuntu box?
[18:22] <Dulak> eiriksvin: that's pretty close to an mp4 but it's an apple format, doubt the ps3 will recognize it natively, but you can convert to whatever format you need
[18:23] <Trfsrfr> Where do all of my windows go when I minimize them? And how do I get them to stay on the taskbar?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, it's the router IP
[18:23] <BrainVirus> okay
[18:24] <MaxVOBJ> !list
[18:24] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Use ubuntu classic instead of unity
[18:24] <BrainVirus> BluesKaj: i have the dns servers in there already.  10.0.1.1 and 10.0.1.2
[18:24] <edbian> Trfsrfr: (alt + tab ;) ;) )
[18:24] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, route in the terminal will give you the router IP
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> Trfsrfr:  if using the classic gnome type desktop - there should be a window list in the bottom panel. Unless you removed it.
[18:25] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I am. I changed it a couple weeks ago.
[18:25] <Guest40431> hi, having big touchpad issues my my natty 64bit sony vaio
[18:25] <beef-supreme> can anyone tell me where the execute session line is?
[18:25] <Guest40431> stops suddenly and then clicking does not work
[18:25] <edbian> Trfsrfr: ?  If you're using ubuntu classic then you should see your minimized windows in the panel just like windows xp / vista
[18:25] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  I wish that were the case.
[18:26] <Bisu[Shield]> how do you untar a file maintaining permissions and ownership?
[18:26] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, dhcp right ?
[18:26] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Right click the panel (I don't care which one) choose add to panel, add the window list applet   (this is gnome right?)
[18:27] <guntbert> ccta: I'm not familiar with tap interfaces but usually sudo ifconfig <interface> down   and then udo ifconfig <interface> up     should work
[18:27] <Trfsrfr> edbian, thanks again!
[18:27] <Trfsrfr> now I can see them.
[18:27] <edbian> Trfsrfr: worked I take it?  Awesome
[18:27] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, the first line is, nameserver 192.168.X.X (the router IP)
[18:28] <Dulak> Bisu[Shield]: use the --preserve flag to tar
[18:28] <Trfsrfr> edbian, that was making me nuts.
[18:28] <edbian> Trfsrfr: There ya go then :)
[18:28] <BrainVirus> BluesKaj: its search then our domain name
 lol
 didnt microsoft buy skype ?
 why does skype still have google chrome optional installer
[18:29] <Trfsrfr> edbian, next question - Im trying to download some video from my camera to a particular folder, but it says there isnt enough available space.
[18:29] <utnubu_> skype.net
[18:29] <Trfsrfr> but then it says I have 1115 gig left
[18:29] <guntbert> !ot | sarel2
[18:29] <Trfsrfr> sorry, 115
[18:30] <eiriksvin> hmm these rippers keep giving me errors
[18:30] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus, yeah, but make the first line , nameserver 192.168.X.X (the router IP ) that 'route' gives you
[18:30] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  how do I make space in that folder?
[18:30] <BrainVirus> BluesKaj: let me try it
[18:31] <Bisu[Shield]> for some reason tar --extract --same-owner --preserve-permissions ZendStudio-8.0.1-x86_64.tar.gz  is taking forever
[18:32] <Dulak> Bisu[Shield]: --preserve combines --same-owner and --preserve-permissions into 1 flag, but yeah it has to do extra work on the extract, chowning and chmodding every file after it's extracted, which is a lot more work
[18:32] <joshua__> i am the only user on my laptop and i have me as administrator... how can i make myself have higher rights, or the root user as i have heard
[18:33] <d3ngar_> Hi there! I seem to have messed up my GNOME on 11.04
[18:33] <yori> hi everyone
[18:33] <d3ngar_> I tried to install GNOME 3, but now I can't log-in at all anymore
[18:33] <Bisu[Shield]> k
[18:33] <Bisu[Shield]> i'll wait
[18:33] <d3ngar_> Basically the screen stays where it is
[18:33] <guntbert> !sudo | joshua__
[18:33] <tensorpudding> joshua__: when the computer asks for your password for administrative privileges, that means that you run that process as root
[18:33] <Dulak> joshua__: using sudo gives you root for whatever command you are running, root is disabled by default
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> joshua__:  you may want to read up on how ubuntu does ownership and permissions.   you should only need 'sudo' rights in special cases.
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | joshua__
[18:33] <d3ngar_> Instead of loading GNOME, it just hangs
[18:34] <Mahmood> Hello Everyone :)
[18:34] <tensorpudding> joshua__: you don't want to, nor can you, be root all the time
[18:34] <Trfsrfr> Dr_Willis, thanks for your input as well.
[18:34] <joshua__> thanks, but i thought sudo was just on terminal how can i raise privilladges on the desktop enviroment
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  gnome3 can break unity i hear. You may want to go to  the console and isntall some alternative window manager to use  untill you can figure out whats broken.
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> !gksudo | joshua__
[18:35] <d3ngar_> dr_Willis: thanks for the advise
[18:35] <tensorpudding> joshua__: when you run certain apps that require the privileges, they will ask for your password when necessary
[18:35] <d3ngar_> I do still have Unity, but it's not loading, nor is gnome3
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> if those aps are written right at least. :)
[18:35] <d3ngar_> should I try KDE?
[18:35] <d3ngar_> And how do i install KDE/
[18:35] <d3ngar_> And how do i install KDE?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  try what you want. if yu just want somthing to get going thats small.. try icewm
[18:36] <tensorpudding> d3ngar_: you installed gnome 3 on 11.04? that probably broke unity
[18:36] <joshua__> ok thank you
[18:36] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What?  Space in a folder?
[18:36] <tensorpudding> d3ngar_: and there is no way to fix it
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  install 'kubuntu-desktop' for the full kde desktop
[18:36] <d3ngar_> It must be able to get fixed
[18:36] <d3ngar_> That unity stuff is horrible
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  theres lubuntu-desktop also for LXDE
[18:36] <galaxy_999> eiriksvin: 'k9copy' /looks/ nice but you'll have to pull in and make a home for all those bastard kde deps
[18:36] <tensorpudding> d3ngar_: you can't safely downgrade packages
[18:36] <eiriksvin> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. <- how do I fix that?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  i really dident find gnome3 that much better.
[18:36] <d3ngar_> yeah
[18:36] <Trfsrfr> edbian, Im trying to put some home video into a folder, but it says there isnt enough space. But i've got 115 gig of space unused
[18:37] <d3ngar_> I thought I try it
[18:37] <d3ngar_> But it worked briefly
[18:37] <KM0201> !dvd | eiriksvin
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  i tried it on a live cd. :)
[18:37] <edbian> Trfsrfr: What does df -h think about your disc usage?
[18:37] <d3ngar_> So I try LXDE
[18:37] <edbian> Trfsrfr: First things first, empty your trash.
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> lxde is very useable these days
[18:37] <BluesKaj> BrainVirus,for static IP on a LAN : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[18:38] <galaxy_999> LXDE is *very* nice. pcmanfm on the other hand... not so much
[18:38] <d3ngar_> Dr_Willis: Could gdm be the issue?
[18:38] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I have 144gig available in /dev/sda2
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> not like its hard to change file managers. :) I like rox-filer but it takes some getting used to.
[18:38] <galaxy_999> and pcmanfm is what makes LXDE, LXDE
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  try booting to console and use 'startx' perhaps
[18:38] <d3ngar_> I have installed GDM, but I undestand it doesn't use this anymore
[18:38] <edbian> Trfsrfr: According to what tool?
[18:38] <rww> d3ngar_: Ubuntu 11.04 uses gdm.
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> I hear in the next release gdm is to be replaced.
[18:39] <Trfsrfr> edbian,  according to df -h
[18:39] <rww> Dr_Willis: indeed, they're moving to LightDM
[18:39] <lindenle> Hi just rebooted my machine (natty) and logged back in to find the desktop upside down and all text mirrored....wtf!
[18:39] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Is /dev/sda2   your /  ?  Where is the folder you're trying to dump stuff into?  Maybe you can pastebin df -h  for me to see?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> then all these people that want to change dm themes.. can be happy. :)
[18:39] <Koobilitoo> KM0201 !
[18:39] <edbian> lindenle: Your monitor is backwards
[18:40] <lindenle> edbian: was until I disabled the effects?
[18:40] <lindenle> edbian: (funny joke though)
[18:40] <edbian> lindenle: hehehe
[18:40] <d3ngar_> How could I restore the Unity desktop?
[18:40] <galaxy_999> Dr_Willis: i can understand the move. what happened to the dm they hacked together themselves?
[18:40] <d3ngar_> if I remove the meta package ubuntu-desktop could I just reinstall it?
[18:40] <Trfsrfr> edbian, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/616004/
[18:40] <lindenle> seriously this is just a pain (also at one point tried to use the nvidia driver which borked the whole system
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  i havent seen any guides out on fixing unity after trying to use gnome3
[18:41] <d3ngar_> :(
[18:41] <WXZ> I have an external NTFS partition with a bunch of empty folders, and I can't delete them I keep getting "directory not empty" even with sudo rm -f -r /foo
[18:41] <tensorpudding> d3ngar_: reinstall
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> d3ngar_:  a meta package dosent really do a lot
[18:41] <edbian> Trfsrfr: /host?  Is this wubi or something
[18:41] <d3ngar_> downgrading to gnome 2.3?
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  try removing some dir on the mountpoint.. not the mountpoint
[18:41] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I have no idea.
[18:41] <rkhshm> for performing a read/write stress test what would be considered and ideal file size for testing?
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> !info bonnie
[18:41] <edbian> Trfsrfr: You don't know if you're using wubi?
[18:41] <WILXX> does anyone know any other socks clients besides dante & tsocks?
[18:41] <Koobilitoo> u guys ned help hook up with Km he rocks
[18:41] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: I can't remove any directories inside the directory itself
[18:41] <lindenle> I am so close to going back to Debian
[18:42] <Koobilitoo> :5 STars for him!
[18:42] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I do have windows on this laptop as well...
[18:42] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Describe to me how you installed Ubuntu while I research
[18:42] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: wait, nevermind, I misunderstood
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:   well you dont normally rm /media/mountpoint/      cd into the mountpoint and rm a dir from there.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> eiriksvin, install libdvdccs2 to copy dvd without drm restrictions
[18:42] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I installed it from a live CD, alongside windows.
[18:42] <galaxy_999> +1 karma | lindenle
[18:42] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: I'm not trying to remove the mountpoint, I did cd into the mountpoint and rm the dir from there
[18:42] <WXZ> still didn't work
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  whats the exact command you are using.
[18:43] <Koobilitoo> I nominate KM
[18:43] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I installed it after windows
[18:43] <lindenle> galaxy_999: totally frustrated that ubuntu does this in non beta versions...
[18:43] <WXZ> (from the partition) sudo rm -f -r ca
[18:43] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Did you boot the live CD or put it in while windows was running?
[18:43] <Koobilitoo> Golden Pengus Award haha
[18:43] <WXZ> ca = the name of the folder I want to remove
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  i always do a rm -rf
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> never tried -f -r   that i can recall
[18:43] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I dont remember, it was awhile ago.
[18:43] <WXZ> I'll try that, don't know if it'll work though because I think it's semantically identical
[18:43] <edbian> Trfsrfr: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l  ?
[18:44] <Trfsrfr> edb sure hold on
[18:44] <edbian> Trfsrfr: It is very strange that you don't have /dev/sda2 mounted at /   You don't have anything mounted at /
[18:44] <edbian> And what the heck is /dev/loop0  ?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  whats the exact error message also.. could be somthing  trivial/obious wrong.. or could be the fs is read only
[18:44] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: nope, same exact errors
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  used for special  operations
[18:44] <edbian> Dr_Willis: such as?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> !loop
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[18:45] <edbian> I know what an iso is
[18:45] <Trfsrfr> edbian, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/616008/
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  did you notice the -o loop option it shows?
[18:45] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Why does he not have a /   ?
[18:45] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: rm: cannot remove directory `ca/path_of_some_child_directory': Directory not empty
[18:45] <edbian> Dr_Willis: yeah.
[18:45] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: for all the child directories
[18:45] <WXZ> same error message
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  thats.. weird..   try rmdir ?
[18:46] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I can tell this is a wubi install because fdisk -l only shows ntfs partitions (which are windows filesystems)
[18:46] <albech> hello all is there a way for manually having the system scan for attached usb devices? lsusb does not show my external harddrive and only after unplugging/plugging a few times will it show up.
[18:46] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: rmdir: failed to remove `ca~delete/': Directory not empty
[18:46] <ericthegreat> hello could anyone help me windows will not boot
[18:46] <new-one> okay, i have an issue installing ubuntu 11.04 on an inspiron 1100, mainly the display. i seen others with the issue, but no fixes. I am not familar enough to fix it on my own, can anyone help?
[18:46] <WXZ> I think it's corrupt
[18:46] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I would be more than happy to remove Windows :)
[18:46] <albech> ericthegreat, try installing ubuntu :p
[18:46] <xirtam> i face a strange thing in gnome. i set a theme, nautilus appears in this theme after starting gnome-desktop. after some seconds it changes back to the default-theme ...
[18:46] <Dulak> WXZ: you need to boot windows and chkdsk that partition, sounds like cross-linked files (ntfs in bad for this reason)
[18:46] <ericthegreat> i am on ubuntu
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:   i was thinkin that also. FS curruption..
[18:46] <ericthegreat> lol you guys
[18:46] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Well you can't with wubi.  How much space is your windows taking up??
[18:47] <ericthegreat> heres boot script
[18:47] <albech> ericthegreat, pastebin
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> WXZ:  it actually had a ~ in the file name?
[18:47] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Here is the thing.  Wubi thinks it has used 90Gb of 233Gb but I see no-where the usage of windows.  Perhaps wubi doesn't see the windows files on the partition it is on.
[18:47] <ericthegreat> i am
[18:47] <ericthegreat> http://pastebin.com/C5qRfk7s
[18:47] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I dont know. Im way new to this.
[18:47] <Canageek> How hard is it to switch ubuntu to KDE? I'm using Maveric if that makes a diffrence
[18:47] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Is it possible that 90Gb + Windows Space = 250Gb?
[18:47] <WXZ> Dr_Willis: no, it was ca at first then I renamed it to "ca~delete"
[18:47] <ericthegreat> sda1 is windows
[18:48] <Canageek> and have been avoiding updating as I don't want to deal with Unity before it is finished
[18:48] <edbian> Canageek: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:48] <d3ngar_> I think there is more problems:
[18:48] <ericthegreat> although it does not say it
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> Canageek:  install kubuntu-desktop package.. select kde at the login screen..
[18:48] <galaxy_999> lindenle: being that this is #ubuntu, i shall refrain from comments lest i head down the path to trolldom
[18:48] <d3ngar_> not all packages were updated to gnome3
[18:48] <Canageek> That is it? Nice
[18:48] <d3ngar_> There should be a way to do that now, no?
[18:48] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I suppose that is possible.
[18:48] <Dulak> Canageek: it's easy, install kubuntu-desktop and it'll have a kde session option at login
[18:48] <tomreyn> new-one: you have not actually explained what this issue is about.
[18:48] <ericthegreat> grub did this btw
[18:48] <lindenle> galaxy_999: yeah ... see you on #debian
[18:48] <Canageek> Can I go back to gnome if there is a problem?
[18:48] <ericthegreat> worked fine after linux install
[18:48] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I think that is the case.  How much data do you have stored in windows?  You have 90Gb stored in Ubuntu (that's a ton!)
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> Canageek:  at login screen.. select the desktop to use
[18:48] <ericthegreat> brb
[18:48] <Canageek> As I have to run gnome in fallback-mode for some reason
[18:49] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I have 1 80Gb hdd and it is only 50% full ;)
[18:49] <g0rby> If my xserver loads the intel graphics module, is there any need for it to load vesa as well? Im trying to troubleshoot slow video performance on a samsung n145 plus
[18:49] <new-one> currently the resolution is low, and it is not detecting the display correctly. the screen is in the upper left corner, and flickers alot, though usableish... and a copy of the screen is below the original. this did not happen during install but after it is running on the system, it is doing it during bootup
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> You could install lubuntu,xubuntu,kubuntu,ubuntu,-desktop   if you wanted all 4 :) there may be others i dont recall..
[18:49] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I do have a lot of video and pics. That is part of my job so...
[18:49] <Dulak> Canageek: yes it's just a session option on the login screen, you can choose kde, gnome, whatever is installed
[18:49] <Canageek> sweet
[18:50] <edbian> Trfsrfr: That is the problem.  You filled the drive using windows and wubi combined.
[18:50]  * Canageek breifly considers fluxbox
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> I recall xbmc or boxee installing its own session to the login screen also.
[18:50] <Trfsrfr> edbian, so why cant I remove windows?
[18:50] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:50] <ericthegreat> good evening
[18:51] <ericthegreat> anyone look at my boot script http://pastebin.com/C5qRfk7s
[18:52] <ericthegreat> i think I installed grub to sda1 (windows)
[18:52] <new-one> i am not sure how else to explain it
[18:52] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Well the way you have things right now.  (the wubi install).  Ubuntu is not on its' own partition.  It is in a file located on the windows partition.  IF you deleted windows (deleted the partition) you'd delete Ubuntu as well.  There are ways to migrate wubi to its' own partition.  I recommend saving your personal files (Ubuntu's /home/you folder and windows personal files) on some external drive.  Erase the drive you have now, install U
[18:52] <edbian> buntu (alone) on it.  Move the personal files into the new Ubuntu install.  This would free up tons of space (probably) and get rid of windows for good.
[18:52] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Of course I suggest that though.  I love linux!! :P
[18:52] <new-one> but i had no problems with 10.04
[18:53] <edbian> The method I suggested is NOT migrating wubi.  It is simply backing up and re-installing.  Migrating wubi will probably bring a whole slew of new problems :)
[18:53] <g0rby> Is it ok for xserver to load vesa as well as intel graphics modules? It looks like it does in Xorg.0.log and im trying to troubleshoot poor video performance
[18:53] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I fell in love with Ubuntu at first sight, so...I guess I will save everything elsewhere and delete windows and reinstall Ubuntu.
[18:53] <ericthegreat> ok guess I will come back when you guys less busy
[18:53] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Another option, start deleting stuff and make room.
[18:54] <ericthegreat> hate to be a bsterd I love Ubuntu but make sure there are no programs ect you need windows for
[18:54] <g0rby> guess ill disable it and see what happens ^^
[18:54] <ericthegreat> wine is not 100%
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> grub normally goes to sda  not sda1
[18:54] <edbian> ericthegreat: What you need help with?
[18:54] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I just figured out how to make the one windows program I cannot live without run in Ubuntu, so I really dont need Windows anymore...
[18:54] <ericthegreat> I cannot boot windows
[18:54] <edbian> Trfsrfr: Great!  I encourage moving away from windows.  (I am biased though :) )
[18:54] <ericthegreat> after I got grub
[18:55] <tomreyn> new-one: have you tried this? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/154469#comment-5
[18:55] <edbian> ericthegreat: sudo update-grub    ?
[18:55] <ericthegreat> nope
[18:55] <edbian> ericthegreat: sudo update-grub2   ?
[18:55] <ericthegreat> windows seems screwed
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> !details
[18:55] <Trfsrfr> edbian, I am not a big fan of having to 'check-in' with Microsoft everytime I want to do something, and pay this or pay that...
[18:55] <ericthegreat> edbian here is my boot script file http://pastebin.com/C5qRfk7s
[18:55] <ThisIsNotAnID> Hi all, I'm new to Ubuntu and this chat forum. I needed help with a little something concerning my WUBI install
[18:56] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I have been using linux and only linux for about 2 years now.
[18:56] <Trfsrfr> edbian, man I wish I had that amount of time into it. I hate not knowing my way around.
[18:57] <dalimun> slitaz running well on vbox but not with ttylinux & dsl
[18:57] <Ball> Yo can someone help me
[18:57] <edbian> ericthegreat: Ummm, don't kill the messenger.  It appears you don't have windows partition here.
[18:57] <remoteCTRL1> does any of you surf anonymously lately?
[18:57] <Trfsrfr> edbian, is there a real good book, or other source of info that you can recommend to help me get to where you are?
[18:57] <edbian> ericthegreat: Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l for me to confirm??
[18:57] <ericthegreat> yea 1 sec
[18:57] <roasted> Question - I have Ubuntu 11.04 running with Unity, but I have dual screen with my right monitor being my main. Total PITA with Unity. I heard they were going to implement functionality to put the Unity bar on the right monitor if you want it. Does anybody know if this has been added yet?
[18:57] <g0rby> where does xserver config live these days?
[18:57] <galaxy_999> Ball: !ask
[18:57] <galaxy_999> !ask | ball
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> g0rby:  x auto configures for the most part. it does use the old xorg.conf if it exitsts
[18:58] <edbian> Trfsrfr: I did not read any books.  I am not that good.  I just fiddle with it a lot and look up tutorials and things in the Internet.  Additionally helping people on IRC (once I was able to) is great practice because of the variety of problems
[18:58] <Beltaine> Is it possible to make Update Manager / apt default to FTP protocol instead of HTTP?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  yea. i was thinking that also.. looks like windows is gone..
[18:58] <edbian> Dr_Willis: :/
[18:58] <Dulak> ericthegreat: you borked something hard man, it doesn't even think you have a windows partition, and it lists 3 partitions that are all the exact same partition
[18:58] <Ball> Okay, i installed ubuntu 11.04 whilst in windows. After it installed it restarted and was verifying the install. It says 'no root file system is defined' and tells me to do somthing with the partition manager, but im not sure what.
[18:58] <Trfsrfr> edbian, well then that is encouraging to me.
[18:58] <edbian> I would be getting that feeling in my stomach right about now.  Accidentally deleting an operating system is a big oops
[18:58] <Pici> Beltaine: Default? Whats wrong with changing the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list manually?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  im still not sure how he generated that outptut. :) or why grub is on sda1 not sda
[18:59] <yassine_hell_> hey, anyone know a good mp3 player? like aimp in windows, small and simple GUI, i wanted to download XMMS but the site is temporary down
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  did that once when they had the hda -> sda  change. :09
[18:59] <edbian> Trfsrfr: :)  I don't know that much.  I think it appears that I know a lot when I know just slightly more than you.
[18:59] <g0rby> Dr_Willis: is there a way i can stop it loading the vesa module with the autoconfig?
[18:59] <edbian> Dr_Willis: I think it means the portion of grub that sits in /boot/grub is located on all partitions
[18:59] <edbian> Dr_Willis: :/  Sorry to hear!
[18:59] <trism> yassine_hell_: audacious?
[18:59] <ericthegreat> edbian my right click does not work in ubuntu it seems
[19:00] <BedMan> yassine_hell_: xmms is a good choice - try to find a mirror of it...
[19:00] <ericthegreat> ...
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> g0rby:  never noticed or needed to.
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> !xmms
[19:00] <new-one> tomreyn that option was not found in my bios... i received the system used and there is an administration password in the bios, so i am not able to change anything. i have not found a way to fix this, and i have not looked yet
[19:00] <Beltaine> Pici: Didn't know where or how to do that :)
[19:00] <edbian> ericthegreat: sorry :( :(
[19:00] <ericthegreat> there another way to copy from terminal?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> xmms is out of date. try others..
[19:00] <edbian> ericthegreat: right click and copy or shift + ctrl + C
[19:00] <pythonirc1011> I just installed xvideo ati drivers and rebooted my machine, but it doesnt seem the ATI drivers are in effect. I've a radeon 5850. How can I configure ubuntu to start using it?
[19:00] <ericthegreat> why you saying sorry lol?
[19:00] <ericthegreat> ok
[19:00] <g0rby> Dr_Willis: Im just troubleshooting poor video performance on my samsung n145 and wondering why its loading vesa as well as intel and if that might be affecting performance
[19:00] <edbian> ericthegreat: Cause windows has been [accidentally] deleted
[19:01] <yassine_hell_> trism audacious looks...big -_- ..
[19:01] <Ball> Okay, i installed ubuntu 11.04 whilst in windows. After it installed it restarted and was verifying the install. It says 'no root file system is defined' and tells me to do somthing with the partition manager, but im not sure what.
[19:01] <new-one> but as far as the option to change the crt/lcd option, i did not find it tomreyn
[19:01] <yassine_hell_> BedMan ok im on it
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> g0rby:  it nomally goes down the list  i dont think it affects anything
[19:01] <ericthegreat> edbian it worked fine after I installed ubuntu
[19:01] <edbian> ericthegreat: windows did?  Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l   ?
[19:01] <ericthegreat> stopped working after I installed grub
[19:02] <edbian> ericthegreat: Can you pastebin that command please?  I'm not asking again
[19:02] <ericthegreat> http://pastebin.com/0cEEHYVb
[19:02] <pythonirc1011> anyone has configured a ATI Radeon 58xx series on ubuntu here?
[19:03] <tomreyn> new-one: can you paste the output of this command to a pastebin, please? lspci -knnv | grep -FA10 VGA
[19:03] <roasted> Question - I have Ubuntu 11.04 running with Unity, but I have dual screen with my right monitor being my main. Total PITA with Unity. I heard they were going to implement functionality to put the Unity bar on the right monitor if you want it. Does anybody know if this has been added yet?
[19:03] <edbian> ericthegreat: there is no windows partition listed here.  What is strange though is that you have 3 partitions with the exact same start and end numbers.  I  don't know what that means.
[19:03] <ericthegreat> yea its weird
[19:03] <edbian> ericthegreat: What does gparted think of your hdd?
[19:04] <ericthegreat> completely unalocated
[19:04] <edbian> ericthegreat: what?
[19:04] <ericthegreat> but I am on ubuntu right now lol
[19:04] <ericthegreat> yea lol wtf
[19:04] <pythonirc1011> anyone has any comments on ati drives on ubuntu?
[19:04] <edbian> ericthegreat: Your partition table is messed up.  I can't say for sure what is going on
[19:04] <edbian> ericthegreat: It is possible windows is still there somewhere.  I have no idea how to rectify your problem.
[19:04] <ericthegreat> I can boot to ubuntu 50% of the time the other half black screen
[19:04] <Steven_Lau> SOS!! My Ubuntu 9.10 can't boot after i complier and make install the glibc 2.11.
[19:04] <Steven_Lau> What can i do?
[19:05] <ericthegreat> ok ty guess I will come back later ty for trying
[19:05] <kdbwnf> Hi. I have enabled edge scrolling but it still doesn't work. can you help me?
[19:05] <edbian> ericthegreat: Look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery   under the 'Lost Partition heading'  What you're doing is risky business.
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> in wich dir files download with pan if the drive is unmounted?
[19:07] <new-one> tomreyn http://pastebin.com/SKv7FR9B
[19:07] <ericthegreat> ty
[19:07] <pythonirc1011> can i use dist-upgrade on any machine without any worries?
[19:08] <Steven_Lau>  My Ubuntu 9.10 can't bootable after i compile and make install the glibc 2.11. Can anybody help me?
[19:12] <ricardo> hello
[19:12] <comm_> I tried to share a folder using samba by placing the a file with my share in  the /var/lib/samba/usershares/ folder however when I go the folder in the gui, it isn't listed as being shared... any idea why?
[19:12] <beef-supreme> anyone here use lxde?
[19:13] <grendal-prime> isnt there a single flash animation creation tool for linux?
[19:13] <comm_> beef-supreme, I have a little...
[19:13] <beef-supreme> comm_, you used it in the past?
[19:13] <musex> hi everyone
[19:13] <pierpaolo> hi
[19:14] <Steven_Lau> Recently,In order to learn the android kernel dev and it need use Glibc2.11.But Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't suported the Glibc2.11,it only suport Glibc2.10
[19:14] <comm_> beef-supreme, I had a computer come with it installed and I used it for a bit while I prepared a new version of ubuntu running gnome
[19:14] <comm_> :)
[19:14] <beef-supreme> comm_, i don't like gnome, i used openbox for most of my linux life
[19:14] <beef-supreme> comm_, but for some reason i have problems with my openbox environment
[19:15] <new-one> did you get that tomreyn?
[19:15] <aacharya> hey guys, where is xorg.conf in natty?
[19:15] <ricardo> Please, [ I am under Ubuntu 11.04 ] the tab Battery of gnome-power-manager don't appear
[19:15] <beef-supreme> comm_, so i thought i'd search for another
[19:15] <musex> openbox is lightweight bur gnome is a complete desktop environment
[19:15] <beef-supreme> aacharya, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:15] <beef-supreme> musex, what's openbox missing
[19:15] <tomreyn> new-one: you've got an ultra low-end GPU there which is known to cause problems and which Ubuntu-X/Canonical-X does not seem to intend to fix bugs for. i'd suggest you upgrade your BIOS and don't use compiz, so either use the legacy/classic gnome desktop without effects or unity-2d.
[19:15] <Steven_Lau> so i download Glibc2.11 from ubuntu.com. And I configure,make ,make check.Every thing is ok,until I run make install command.
[19:16] <beef-supreme> aacharya, use "sudo find / -name *insert keyword here*"
[19:16] <aacharya> beef-supreme: i don't see it there (actually, find / -name "x*conf" doesn't find anything either).  does x autoconfigurate itself these days?
[19:16] <beef-supreme> aacharya, what video card do you use?
[19:17] <aacharya> beef-supreme: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[19:17] <oCean> Steven_Lau: you downloaded what from where? Ubuntu works with software repositories, building from source is not necessary
[19:17] <beef-supreme> aacharya, no idea then
[19:17] <new-one> legacy/classic gnome desktop is not an issue with me, i am use to it. and what do i do about compiz? do i apt-get remove? and how would i install unity-2d. never used unity before
[19:18] <Pici> Steven_Lau: You shouln't install a different version of glibc that differs from the one that comes with it. Lots of things will break.
[19:18] <new-one> legacy/classic gnome desktop is not an issue with me, i am use to it. and what do i do about compiz? do i apt-get remove? and how would i install unity-2d. never used unity before. forgot to put tomreyn in the message... sorry
[19:19] <Steven_Lau> After the make install comand,ervery program can't executable.  I can't execute make uninstall or make clean command.  So I shutdown my computer.  And it can't bootable now.  Can anyone help me please! I dont whant to reinstall the OS.
[19:19] <aacharya> anyone know how natty does x configuration by default? i don't see any xorg.conf on my system
[19:19] <oCean> Steven_Lau: see our previous messages. You should not use a different version, and certainly not building a new one
[19:19] <Pici> Steven_Lau: You'll likely need to reinstall. libc6 is an essential part of your operating system and trying to replace it wwill cause issues.
[19:20] <Pici> Steven_Lau: Secondly, Ubuntu 9.10 is no longer supported, you should be using a newer release.
[19:20] <ricardo>  Please, [ I am under Ubuntu 11.04 ] the tab Battery of gnome-power-manager don't appear
[19:20] <tomreyn> new-one: if you select the classic gnome desktop _without effects_ while logging in (should be the last option, i think, then compiz is already disabled.
[19:21] <new-one> tomreyn: well, the login screen looks like this too, it is before i login that the screen gets messed up
[19:21] <pstewart> aacharya: you might be able to generate an xorg.conf with: sudo Xorg -configure
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> new-one:  unity2d is just a package you install. dont worry about removing  compiz
[19:22] <new-one> tomreyn: sorry for my ignorance, i am kinda new...
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-2d
[19:22] <ricardo> Please, [ I am under Ubuntu 11.04 ] the tab Battery of gnome-power-manager don't appear
[19:22] <new-one> Dr_Willis: thanks
[19:22] <aacharya> pstewart: ah, cool.  do you have any idea how x is starting now? last time i used linux, having an xorg.conf file was mandatory..
[19:22] <ricardo> Please, [ I am under Ubuntu 11.04 ] the tab Battery of gnome-power-manager don't appear
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> unity-2d is lacking some features compared to the normal unity
[19:23] <guntbert> !repeat | ricardo
[19:23] <pstewart> aacharya: it uses an autoconfiguration
[19:24] <pstewart> aacharya: but if you generate an xorg.conf and modify it, it will override the autoconf
[19:24] <aacharya> pstewart: i see, thank you.  is there a way to selectively override the autoconf for specific sections?
[19:24] <tomreyn> new-one: okay then it's actually an issue with the graphics driver. Make sure you have at least BIOS version A32 (it should say on the bottom of your screen when you power on your computer, press the pause key to see the text for longer, then any other key to resume) as per http://ln-s.net/8s8C
[19:25] <Jordan_U> aacharya: Yes. You write only those sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[19:25] <aacharya> awesome
[19:25] <aacharya> Jordan_U: thanks a bunch
[19:25] <aacharya> pstewart: thank you as well
[19:25] <new-one> tomreyn: ok, thank you, i will check it out, and come back here if i have any other issues...
[19:26] <tomreyn> new-one: while a BIOS update can help, i'm not saying this will actually fix this issue. You need to find out why your Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03) does not work well with Ubuntu 11.04.
[19:26] <tomreyn> new-one: i'm afraid i need to run right now :-/
[19:27] <motaka2> I cant make Hp 1102 work on ubuntu 8.04 , should I sucide?
[19:27] <tomreyn> new-one: surely this hardware is very dated and was never too well supported (nor is it a great piece of hardware).
[19:27] <H3tw3rkt> or upgrade
[19:27] <edbian> motaka2: probably suicide is overkill   (forgive the pun)
[19:27] <Steven_Lau> is there have other ways except reinstall ? eg. Can i copy the lib dir from a good computer to the bad system to repair this problem?
[19:28] <new-one> tomreyn: yea, it is an old laptop, just trying to suck as much life out of it as i can
[19:28] <motaka2> edbian: do u know of a way to meke it work ?
[19:28] <sw0rdfish> what is the best cli web browser?
[19:28] <new-one> tomreyn: thanks anyway
[19:28] <edbian> !best
[19:29] <edbian> sw0rdfish: lynx
[19:29] <Pici> sw0rdfish: Its up to you to choose, but links2, lynx, and w3m are rather popular.
[19:29] <sw0rdfish> hmmmmm
[19:29] <sw0rdfish> all are feature-rich?
[19:29] <Pici> sw0rdfish: w3m is installed by default on an Ubuntu Server install.
[19:29] <sw0rdfish> oh nice
[19:29] <sw0rdfish> i'll try out w3m then
[19:29] <motaka2> Can anyone help me install hp 1102 printer on ubuntu ?
[19:30] <sw0rdfish> wait link2 displays pictures, haha, i'll get that one :)
[19:31] <Dinosaurus> hjiya
[19:31] <Dinosaurus> how can i list my wifi interfaces
[19:31] <Smashcat> hi - is there any way to find out which package contains a library? (zlib in this case)
[19:31] <bindi> Dinosaurus: iwconfig
[19:32] <Dinosaurus> you're a genius bindi
[19:33] <ShermanBoyd> after installing natty server x86_64 I get a blinking arange cursor ... I can login with a ctrl-alt-F1 ... but what's all this?
[19:34] <ShermanBoyd> I guess I can look at it as an awesome physical security measure
[19:34] <Pici> Smashcat: apt-cache search, apt-file search, most of the time the packages are in lib$something format.  You're probably looking for zlibc, or if you're compiling something: zlib1g-dev
[19:35] <AaronCampbell> I installed and am trying to use PHPUnit.  However, it seems to be missing the CodeCoverage component because it keeps trying to include PHP/CodeCoverage/Filter.php and the CodeCoverage directory doesn't exist.  Does anyone know if there's another package I need (I can't seem to find it)
[19:35] <ShermanBoyd> I installed the "Basic Server" package ... hopefully that doesn't include x-windows
[19:36] <crux000> AaronCampbell: I'm not a PHP person, but you can search packages.ubuntu.com by path/filename...
[19:36] <fission6> i am trying to compile something which needs libevent, locate libevent shows results but i still get, gevent/libevent.h:9: fatal error: event.h: No such file or directory
[19:36] <Pici> fission6: you usually need the -dev packages when compiling things from source. In this case: libevent-dev
[19:37] <fission6> right i think that is indeed the issue thanks Pici
[19:37] <smittix> Hi all, Im using the propriety ATI Driver and still moving a window is terribly choppy.
[19:37] <Smashcat> Pici: Thanks - searching for libz or zlib gives hundreds of options so i just did this : apt-cache search libz | awk '{print "apt-get install " $1} | /bin/sh
[19:38] <Pici> Smashcat: Er. I wouldn't do that if I were you.  Often packages will replace one another, and you could put your system in an unusable state doing so.
[19:38] <crux000> My problem, if anyone's paying attention / has better googlefu than me: My system behaves very badly (applications, sometimes the whole desktop, randomly freeze for 5-60+ seconds) while doing heavy IO on USB devices.
[19:38] <Smashcat> Pici : Just figured at least one of those should include the lib ;-)
[19:39] <mari00> hey all, i seemed to have crashed my system during an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[19:39] <motaka2> Can anyone help me install hp 1102 printer on ubuntu ?
[19:40] <Daremonai> hello, i want to do video on demand streaming on ubuntu, how can i do that?
[19:40] <cannonball> mari00: I had a crashed upgrade that I had to work through, can you describe yours?  If it's similar to mine, the fix was easy.
[19:40] <silver_hook> Is there an elegant solution to the rt3090 driver problem?
[19:40] <mari00> the computer froze.  i had to restart and now it wont boot.  something about the drive not being mounted.  i get an error ono boot that says "cannot read ´etc/udev_rules.d/z80_user.rules´
[19:41] <mari00> then it says also, init: udevtrigger main proccess (438) terminted with status 1, and so on and son on
[19:41] <mari00> when i boot into windows (the machine is dual-boot) it cannot load the shared drive which was mounted on /home in ubuntu
[19:42] <mari00> or shared partition rather
[19:42] <cannonball> mari00: Sounds similar.  In my case, if I let it sit for about 4 minutes, it actually did boot up properly.  How long did you wait?  Was there a lot of harddrive activity? If you didn't let it finish it's fsck, you're stopping it early.
[19:43] <chinnappan> how to give full permission  on NTFS hardisk
[19:43] <motaka2> no one cant help me?
[19:43] <mari00> let it sit over night.  i still cannot boot in.  i am getting the same errors.
[19:43] <mari00> i am very close to just running a fresh install...
[19:43] <chinnappan> how to give full permission  on NTFS hardisk
[19:43] <mgolisch> chinnappan: youll need ntfs-3g for write support, but that should be installed by default on ubuntu, on desktop editions atleast
[19:43] <tacomaster> i get the first part of this command but can someone explain what is going on after output.txt "modprobe > output.txt 2>&1
[19:44] <marvindoppelt> motaka2, what have you tried so far?
[19:44] <cannonball> mari00: Your best bet is to boot the livecd, mount the partitioni someplace such as /mnt/root, chroot to it, then finish the yum installation.
[19:44] <cannonball> errr, apt-get installation.
[19:44] <lord3lm0> #trimslice
[19:45] <chinnappan> its installed but what is the commad
[19:45] <lord3lm0> (sorry noob)
[19:45] <motaka2> marvindoppelt: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
[19:45] <chinnappan> how to give full permission  on NTFS hardisk
[19:45] <oCean> tacomaster: in redirection 2 means STDERR (error) and 1 STDOUT (output), the 2>&1 redirects both STDOUT and STDERR to the output.txt
[19:45] <cannonball> mari00: Dell Latitude D620. Basically, 'dpkg --configure -a' fixed all my problems.
[19:46] <mari00> cannonball: this sounds promising.  the live cd would be an installation disk where you chose the try without install option, yeah?
[19:46] <mgolisch> actualy it redirects stderr into stdout and > redirects that into output.txt
[19:46] <oCean> mgolisch: agreed
[19:46] <cannonball> mari00: It sounds like yours is not quite the same issue though.  Maybe a clean install.  Here's the chronicle of my issue:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/154970
[19:46] <cannonball> I'm note #3.
[19:47] <tacomaster> mgolisch: oCean ok ty both for the help
[19:47] <mgolisch> chinnappan: is this a server or something?
[19:48] <mgolisch> chinnappan: you can try mounting it using mount, or using the ntfs-3g command
[19:48] <mgolisch> both should work
[19:48] <marvindoppelt> motaka2, if you believe you followed all the instructions, what is the error you are getting?
[19:48] <chinnappan> ok
[19:48] <chinnappan> thks
[19:49] <akashm1990> how can I disable the window border shadows in Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | akashm1990
[19:51] <catfish> Hi, how can i disable the message botton in the gome systray?
[19:51] <catfish> *gnome
[19:51] <||cw> anyone ever seen this happen? ls: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[19:51] <||cw> also, ls -Rl /etc |grep 'resolv.conf'
[19:51] <||cw> ?--------- ? ?    ?           ?                ? /etc/resolv.conf
[19:52] <selvakumaran> Is Gnome3 needs any spl H/W..?
[19:52] <||cw> selvakumaran: it should fall back to non-fancy features on non-accelerated
[19:53] <||cw> I've had this /etc/resolv.conf issue on 2 server, one a reboot and fsck fixed it, the other didn't
[19:53] <mari00> cannonball: well i managed to mount the linux partition so it is still there which is good.  but not sure what to do now.
[19:55] <greg3000> Going to mirror a raid-1 installation using "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc", any tips before I start?
[19:55] <d3ngar_> hey there
[19:56] <Cleofas> Hi, my ubuntu cd doesn't run so I can't install it.
[19:56] <aacharya> hey guys, what's a good way to shutdown and restart x? i used sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but couldnt get x up and running again
[19:56] <d3ngar_> I pretty much got the Gnome-shell story running (also rescued Unity)
[19:56] <Cleofas> What can I do?
[19:56] <greg3000> hi d3ngar_
[19:56] <d3ngar_> But I accidentally replaced the session manager
[19:56] <Cleofas> Hi, my ubuntu cd doesn't run so I can't install it.
[19:56] <Cleofas> What can I do?
[19:56] <d3ngar_> How do I revert back to the original session managr?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> azertyh: sudo service gdm restart
[19:57] <d3ngar_> any ideas?
[19:57] <aacharya> Jordan_U: guessing you meant to send that to me :) will stop and start work as well (if i need to do some work at the console while x is down) ?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> aacharya: Yes.
[19:57] <KM0201> Cleofas: reburn it?
[19:57] <Cleofas> For the 4th time?
[19:57] <cannonball> mari00: Assuming you mounted it to /mnt/root, then you do a 'chroot /mnt/root'
[19:58] <aacharya> Jordan_U: great.  also, it looks like the network is somehow tied to x? is this for real, and if so, can i start the network while gdm is stopped?
[19:58] <Cleofas> It works on windows, but not on ubuntu.
[19:58] <Cleofas> And it doesn't run from the bios.
[19:58] <KM0201> Cleofas: if you've burned it that many times either 1. it's a bad ISO, download again, or 2. you're not burning correctly.
[19:58] <cannonball> Now you're in a bash shell, but it's running from your installed image instead of the cd/dvd that you booted.
[19:58] <selvakumaran> can i access my www folder with out root permission..?
[19:58] <akashm1990> Jordan_U, Diabling "Window decoration" from compizconfig settings manager to remove the shadows results in me losing my title bars
[19:58] <mari00> cannonball: i mounted it to /media/lpart
[19:59] <Cleofas> KM0201, I downloaded it from the offcial site.
[19:59] <cannonball> mari00: Assuming that works, try the dpkg command from the answers.ubuntu.com link I posted above.  It essentially "continues" the queued up steps that the installer didn't get to finish.
[19:59] <KM0201> Cleofas: that doesn't really mean anything, but ok.
[19:59] <Dulak> aacharya: install wicd, it runs whether X is running or not, unlike network-manager,  or manually configure your network in /etc/network/interfaces to avoid the entire mess
[19:59] <Cleofas> KM0201, what do you mean?
[19:59] <mari00> so i would chroot /media/lpart
 u should better reinstall your Compiz, that s the only solution
[19:59] <KM0201> !md5 | Cleo
[19:59] <KM0201> Cleofas: see above
[20:00] <selvakumaran> can i access my www folder with out root permission..?
[20:00] <aacharya> Dulak: ah, cool thank you :)
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Dulak: aacharya: Network manager can do system wide configuration just as well as anything else.
[20:00] <mbroadst> is there any easy way to update from karmic to whatever the current version is? or am I better off trying to just migrate data over
[20:00] <Cleofas> The image file is complete, I've burned it several times and it's not that you need to be an engineer to burn a cd.
[20:00] <Cleofas> KM0201, I've seen it already.
[20:00] <KM0201> does it pass?
[20:00] <glitchd> i know this is not the right room for this question, but i cannot connect to the correct room. does anyone know how to update the minecraft server while saving all of the data contained in it?
[20:00] <Dulak> Jordan_U: if X isn't running, network-manager isn't either, so no network
[20:00] <mbroadst> update-manager just tells me I'm not supported anymore :)
[20:00] <Cleofas> KM0201, pass??
[20:00] <aacharya> Jordan_U: so how do i start the network after shutting down x with network manager?
[20:01] <KM0201> Cleofas: nevermind... good luck w/ your problem
[20:01] <mari00> cannonball: i tried to run ´sudo chroot /media/lpart´and got an error
[20:01] <Dulak> Jordan_U: which is why the very first thing I do on a ubuntu install is replace network-manager with wicd
[20:01] <Jordan_U> aacharya: It's not tied to X so much as it's tied to your GNOME session, by default. If you make the connection "available to all users" and set it to connect automatically then it will connect before you login and stay connected after you log out.
[20:01] <Cleofas> I do mind, KM0201
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Dulak: ^^
[20:01] <KM0201> Cleofas: but i don't, like i said, good luck.
[20:01] <mari00> do i need to have booted from a live cd of the last stable install version?  because i am using an 11.04 live cd...
[20:01] <aacharya> Jordan_U: thanks!
[20:01] <Cleofas> KM0201, fuck off.
[20:01] <mari00> or install cd rather
[20:02] <Jordan_U> !language | Cleofas
[20:02] <Cleofas> Too many no-life e-toughs.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> Cleofas: And that treatment of others is also not welcome here.
[20:02] <selvakumaran> Wat is the diff b/w live cd and DVD.....>>?
[20:02] <Cleofas> Fuck you Jordan_U and fuck you ubottu
[20:03] <coz_> oy
[20:03] <BrainVirus> hahaha
[20:04] <BrainVirus> Jordan_U:  :)
[20:04] <greg3000> Going to mirror a raid-1 installation using "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc", any tips before I start?
[20:05] <Smashcat> heh, well running that quick script to install everything with zlib in the name worked ;-) one of them had the library in it - god knows what other crap was installed - hehe
[20:06] <BrainVirus> anybody in here have experience with hostname issues in 10.04?
[20:06] <mbroadst> I'd prefer not to have to do a fresh install on this computer, but update-manager will only say "This version is not supported" has anyone updated 9.10 to 11.04?
[20:06] <rww> !eol | mbroadst
[20:06] <mbroadst> rww: thank you
[20:06] <KM0201> mbroadst: you canno tupdate 9.04 directly to 11.04... that will e a long process getting from 9.04 to 11.04
[20:07] <leandro220-x> hi
[20:07] <leandro220-x> i need some guidance on this
[20:08] <KM0201> leandro220-x: ask
[20:08] <mari00> cannonball or anyone...any idea why chroot wouldn't work...
[20:09] <leandro220-x> ok so i installed netbeans 6.9 then 7 but i dint know how to unistall it so i just removed folder now i have an icon on the aplications menu i couldnt remove
[20:09] <leandro220-x> it wasnt installed via ubuntu sofware manager it was an .sh file
[20:10] <adwait_neo> I am planning to submit my project for GSoC 2012. Can someone help me how should i start?
[20:10] <cannonball> mari00: This just a guess, but it sounds like  package updates failed so early on that what's there isn't usable.  You're better off re-installing I would think.  Back up anything that you need backed up because once you format....
[20:10] <BrainVirus> anybody in here have experience with hostname issues in 10.04?
[20:10] <Scunizi> How can I get a directory listing output to a text file in alphabetical order?  ls <something> > dir.txt
[20:10] <jimnordon> I'm ircing from my toilet.. goddammit I love technology!!!
[20:10] <joshua__> hey i was thinking about playing with making my own linux flavor... any suggestions?
[20:11] <v0lksman> anyone know if it's possible to run nightly and stable Chrome builds at the same time?
[20:11] <leandro220-x> so
[20:11] <mari00> cannonball: you think that is why chroot is not working?  did you see that i am running from a 11.04 livecd...is that relevant maybe?
[20:11] <Smashcat> haha, a website's managed to crash firefox and slow my pc down to the speed of a zx81 ;-)
[20:11] <Smashcat> ah i see it's trying to run java. that explains it
[20:11] <adwait_neo> I am planning to submit my project for GSoC 2012. Can someone help me from where should i start?
[20:11] <Dulak> BrainVirus: a better way would be to describe exactly the problem, and not a general request like that.  People have all kinds of problems, but without specifics you'll get a yes or no answer, or just be ignored.
[20:11] <v0lksman> joshua__, great for YOU to learn but unless you have a good group of people to work with it won't gain much traction...lots of work involved
[20:11] <akashm1990> adwait_neo, wait for GSoC 2012 announcement..
[20:11] <akashm1990> or atleast till GSoC 2011 end
[20:11] <joshua__> i have 3 people
[20:12] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM.
till then what should i work on? any programing language or application?
[20:12] <jimnordon> who would win in a fight-- gnome3 or unity?
[20:12] <v0lksman> joshua__, best to take this to an offtopic channel or #linux...best of luck though...it's fun to try, hard to keep up...
[20:12] <BrainVirus> Dulak: fair enough
 UNITY :D
[20:13] <Zolorado> hi, I need some help with kubuntu, somebody can help me?
[20:13] <xangua> !ot | jimnordon
[20:13] <joshua__> ok thanks
[20:13] <GridCube> jimnordon, xfce!
[20:13] <kelvinella> hello, after i upgrade to 10.04 my printer no longer work.  it said Stopping job because the scheduler could not execute a filter
[20:13] <jimnordon> hah nice
[20:13] <yhager> I'm on maverick but I need a package that is available on natty - http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/304986 - Can I install it on maverick?
[20:13] <kelvinella> my printer is canon mp210 how to fix?
[20:13] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM.
[20:13] <BrainVirus> i am unable to ping the hostname of a ubuntu 10.04 box. Any ideas?
[20:14] <Dulak> yhager: it may work, but if it doesn't you can always get the natty source package, modify it, and compile for maverick
[20:14] <v0lksman> yhager, depends on dependencies but you can always try and see if dpkg barfs an error
[20:14] <yhager> Dulak, v0lksman: where can I donwload the .deb from?
[20:15] <The_Explorer> Hello, i am looking for someone clever: Recently i made the error of deleting a large sum of files. O well. however, i managed to get the data with a efsck, So i now i have a over 2.5x10e5 files that my computer is very slow at getting a list for.
[20:15] <yhager> oh, found it on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:15] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM, plz some one can help me (:
[20:16] <Dulak> yhager: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/mozjs/1.8.5-1.0.0-0ubuntu5
[20:16] <xangua> !repeat | BeyNoteDeathBlad
[20:16] <sw0rdfish> !webmin
[20:16] <jasonsrus2007> SET term_force_colors ON
[20:16] <Dulak> yhager: that has the source tarball they made the package from, if you end up having to make your own maverick package it'll be handy
[20:17] <The_Explorer> beynotedeathblad, disable advanced pci power options
[20:17] <yhager> Dulak: thanks.
[20:17] <The_Explorer> beynotedeathblad, start with noapci or whatever
[20:18] <BrainVirus> i am unable to ping the hostname of a ubuntu 10.04 box.  I can ping the ip though. Help?
[20:18] <edbian> BrainVirus: Do you have a local DNS server?
[20:18] <Gskellig> okay, can someone help me get unity working
[20:18] <toumbo> Hi all!!!I have a problem.After plymouth when ubuntu loads the theme is changed on it's own!Is this a bug?
[20:18] <Gskellig> when i login I choose "ubuntu" not ubuntu classic
[20:19] <BrainVirus> edbian: yeah, the dns settings are all correct and pointing to the dns server
[20:19] <Gskellig> i know it works because it has worked with ubuntu 11.04 before
[20:19] <Gskellig> for some reason after installing this time it wont start
[20:19] <edbian> BrainVirus: dig hostname@DNS-SERVER
[20:19] <LetterRip> hi, i'd like to use jemalloc with blender, i'm pretty sure that firefox uses jemalloc but i can't find the jemalloc library on my computer , anyone know where it resides?
 mmm my bios only allows to retard the HDD load and select the first bootable HDD
[20:19] <Dulak> BrainVirus: what do you get when you do 'host hostnamehere'
[20:20] <bencc> is it possible to compile flex 4.5 in ubuntu? openjdk or sun java?
[20:20] <BrainVirus> Dulak host sauron1 not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[20:21] <xangua> bencc: you can compile on any linux distro if you have the source
[20:21] <tase> what about task/todos, i'm doing // TODO ... in netbeans 7 and nothing
[20:21] <Dulak> BrainVirus: do you have a search domain specified in /etc/resolv.conf?  if so is it the domain that contains sauron1?
[20:22] <BrainVirus> its on the same network. but i havent added sauron1 to that domain
[20:22] <BrainVirus> edbian: PM
[20:22] <Dulak> BrainVirus: the quick fix is to add the ip and hostname to /etc/hosts,  the long fix is to figure out why that bare hostname without a domain is failing a dns lookup
[20:23] <BrainVirus> Dulak: i think i need the long fix. I need this box to stay DHCP
[20:23] <Dulak> BrainVirus: add sauron1 to the search domain you specify in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <BrainVirus> okay
[20:24] <Dulak> BrainVirus: if you don't have a search domain specified, bare hostnames will only resolve from /etc/hosts
[20:24] <DannyS> Playing a quicktime stream from apple.com is very buggy using gecko and mplayer plugin.  I just installed pinguy 11.04.  It is the only distro I have found that plays quicktime streams properly out of the box.  Does anybody know what they do that is different?
[20:24] <akashm1990> How do I fix it when my title bar becomes like that shown in the screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/P9Orl.png
[20:24] <linuxnewb> how can i show the number of files located in directory /urs/bin/ files who contains a number (wildcard)
[20:26]  * prabhu waves hello
[20:27] <BrainVirus> Dulak: thanks. I am going to try removing the search domain
[20:27] <BrainVirus> Dulak:..... i could kiss you right now
[20:27] <BrainVirus> just on the cheek
[20:29] <Mike9863> How do I enable desktop effects in 11.04?
[20:29] <steviewonder> the square root of 16 is 4
[20:29] <Chilaquiles> hey guys, how can I increase the swap?
[20:29] <steviewonder> sure
[20:30] <BrainVirus> Dulak: i have been working that issue for the last 4 hours
[20:30] <shomon> hi, I'm booting off a recovery cd
[20:30] <Chilaquiles> I can't hybernate because it says that I have to increase the swap
[20:30] <Dulak> BrainVirus: hah!  glad I could help
[20:30] <shomon> and I want to burn ubuntu to a usb drive
[20:30] <shomon> how do I do it?
[20:30] <shomon> I just downloaded the latest one
[20:30] <steviewonder> you control c it
[20:30] <shomon> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download from here
[20:30] <steviewonder> yeah
[20:31] <||cw> Chilaquiles: boot off the livecd and use gparted to resize the partitions
[20:31] <wafa_> hi
[20:31] <Chilaquiles> ||cw: I don't want to rezise the partitions
[20:31] <wafa_> well it's nt to as a question
[20:31] <||cw> Chilaquiles: then you can't increase the size of the swap partition
[20:31] <steviewonder> do you guys know that this is all live streaming on http://browntechx.com/live/?
[20:31] <shomon> does anyone know how to burn a ubuntu iso to a hard drive when you don-t have ubuntu windows or a mac?
[20:31] <Chilaquiles> I know there is a way without rezising the partitions
[20:32] <||cw> maybe you can add a swap file, google "linux swap file"
[20:32] <steviewonder> do you guys know that this is all live streaming on http://browntechx.com/live/?
[20:32] <llutz> ||cw: only tuxonice can hibernate into swapfiles iirc
[20:32] <steviewonder> say my name if you can see this... im soo confused
[20:33] <edbian> steviewonder: hi
[20:33] <||cw> steviewonder: *yawn*
[20:33] <steviewonder> oh good! i hought i was blocked and kicked
[20:33] <||cw> might end up that if you keep spaming site not related to the /topic
[20:33] <edbian> steviewonder: what an interesting webcam
[20:33] <steviewonder> sorry this is stupid but any ideas how to get gum off your laptop?!!
[20:34] <maco> steviewonder: ice pack
[20:34] <steviewonder> seriously?
[20:34] <maco> steviewonder: freeze the gum, then it'll crack right off
[20:34] <||cw> freeze it with canned air and and chip it off before it thaws
[20:34] <steviewonder> okay!
[20:34] <wafa_> shomon, you can download the ubuntu version you want on your windows then you burn it as an image on a dvd then you should then reboot using this dvd then you install your ubuntu version
[20:34] <shomon> is there a text alternative to "make startup disk" in ubuntu's startup disk creator?
[20:34] <steviewonder> you guys are uber smart
[20:34] <shomon> ah thanks wafa_
[20:34] <||cw> hold the can upside down for an extra cold blast, don't get it on your skin though
[20:34] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u can download http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ and follow the instructions
[20:34] <shomon> I have downloaded it
[20:35] <shomon> I donn-t have a dvd. I wanted to boot from usb
[20:35] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u configured ur bios to allow usb boot?
[20:35] <||cw> shomon: you want to put the live-dvd on usb?
[20:36] <wafa_> you are welcome but be sure to burn it not as a data dvd but as an image you should find this option on your sotware u use to burn a dvd
[20:36] <||cw> shomon: I'd use unetbootin, which has ports for all the major OS's
[20:36] <shomon> yes cw
[20:36] <shomon> I do... I would like to boot off there if possible
[20:36] <wafa_> ok i ddn't use this option, but u can i guess
[20:36] <||cw> it's still a gui, but at least you get more options for making the usb bootable
[20:37] <shomon> what is the unix command to burn an iso to a usb if that is even possible?
[20:37] <danielbrown2> hi guys
[20:37] <||cw> shomon: it's not that simple
[20:37] <shomon> ok
[20:37] <||cw> shomon: but there are howto's out there
[20:37] <shomon> I'm on a recovery cd after getting hacked a while back
[20:37] <wafa_> jst be sure tht u burn the image this way it will make your flash dsk bootable
[20:37] <danielbrown2> i made this chat room
[20:37] <shomon> so I just downloaded an iso.. but the only thing I can burn to just now seems the external hd
[20:38] <Guest24783> i have a 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' on sony vaio 64bit and having problems
[20:38] <Guest24783> any one know a fix?
[20:38] <shomon> hmm do you know where I can find one of those howtos?
[20:39] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u downloaded http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:39] <||cw> shomon: you have to some trick to make the USB bootable, then you extract the iso to the usb, then you mess with some syslinux config to make it look in the right places
[20:39] <shomon> oh can you just extract an iso like a zip?
[20:39] <unknown> hello. How to run binary files from console? ./app works for me if i am inside app's cat; ./way-to-app/app doesnt (should it?)
[20:39] <JoshuaL> shomon, yes
[20:40] <maco> unknown: if way to app isnt under the current dir, then leave off the . at the beginning
[20:40] <unknown> ok
[20:40] <shomon> ok thanks JoshuaL I-ll look up on google how to do it
[20:40] <unknown> nope, doesnt work
[20:40] <wafa_> shomon u dnt have to unzip
[20:41] <wafa_> you shld just reboot with this drive (usb or dvd)
[20:41] <JoshuaL> shomon, just right click the file and select extract here
[20:41] <wafa_> the iso format is used to run a bootable dvd, cd , or usb
[20:42] <unknown> i wrote "/way/app". App should create txt file, but it didnt...
[20:42] <uragan> hello my dear friends
[20:42] <uragan> how are you
[20:42] <maco> unknown: if you do "file /way/app" does it tell you its a script/ELF or does it say not found?
[20:42] <unknown> ill try
[20:43] <unknown> ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[20:44] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to update packages from jaunty.  It's failing.  Anybody else having problems.  I think it was us.archive.ubuntu.com .
[20:44] <unknown> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped
[20:46] <qin> !jaunty
[20:47] <qin> !eol | dcorbin_work
[20:47] <Pici> dcorbin_work: Jaunty has reached its End of Life, so its regular repositories are no longer available. See  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
 any guess, whats wrong with me/my ubuntu ? :)
[20:49] <sarkar> hello
[20:49] <maco> unknown: nope
[20:49] <kondor> Hello all, I've installed ubuntu 11.04, with an vga Intel 82G33/G31, but the display resollution is so bad, how can I set up it?
 ok, thx for a try )
[20:49] <xangua> bcorboujimkn..
[20:50] <tensorpudding> kondor: try running Monitors
[20:51] <kondor> how?
[20:51] <tensorpudding> and see if you can set a better resolution
[20:51] <tensorpudding> kondor: it'll be in the applications, search for it by name
[20:51] <tensorpudding> kondor: or look in System Settings
[20:51] <kondor> i'm runnign with ubuntu clasic theme, not unity theme
[20:52] <kafher> hello is any body there to help me with ssh synatx
[20:52] <tensorpudding> kondor: it'll be under System -> Configuration or something then
[20:52] <kondor> System->preferences->Monitors
[20:52] <kondor> Ok,
[20:52] <kondor> but it shows me up to 1024*768 resolution,
[20:53] <kondor> and I know my monitor could do more..
[20:53] <fendell> i'm having same problem as kondor
[20:53] <dcorbin_work> Pici, ubottu : thanks.  I figured EOL (which I knew was 'not far off') just mean no more updates....
[20:54] <tensorpudding> kondor: what is your monitor?
[20:54] <fendell> lg tv
[20:54] <kondor> is acer, P221w
[20:55] <cablop> does anyone here have some experience with kde?
[20:55] <fendell> cant activate effekts either
[20:55] <dcorbin_work> That is, no more bug fixes.
[20:55] <cablop> and don't ask me to go kubuntu, that channel is pretty dead
[20:57] <BrainVirus> Dulak: up for round 2?
[20:57] <kondor> please some help...
[20:57] <tensorpudding> kondor: not sure then...is it widescreen?
[20:57] <Dulak> BrainVirus: ask away, if I can't help someone else prolly can
[20:57] <kondor> is possible to force the resolution in 11.04?
[20:58] <BrainVirus> I am getting the error. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. I run that and then it sits on th package it was trying to install before and just sits there
[20:58] <tensorpudding> kondor: yes, but i'm trying to see if there is a better way, because that way involves writing a configuration file
[20:59] <eipi-1> hi, i often experience freezed X Display after closing the laptop lid putting it way and taking it back. i can switch to other tty and startx -- :1 another Display, from where i am chatting right now. Where can i start to pin down the problem? My guess is, that some read errors from the harddrive while moving the laptop may cause the problem. Maybe someone has an idea to reactivate the :0 display, so i can save my docs? any help appreciated :)
[20:59] <Dulak> BrainVirus: purge the package and try again, also what package?
[20:59] <kondor> I try to find restricted drivers, but it doesnt works..
[20:59] <tensorpudding> kondor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution is the usual info
[21:00] <tensorpudding> there are no restricted drivers for intel, they're all open
[21:00] <psichas> so musch hackers :D
[21:00] <tensorpudding> the issue is probably due to a bug in figuring out what resolutions are available
[21:00] <BrainVirus> Dulak: wait a sec i think i just got it. "sudo aptitude clean" seemed to do the trick... i think
[21:00] <ech0s7_> hi
[21:00] <tensorpudding> this info might be somewhat out-of-date
[21:00] <psichas> hi
[21:01] <Andy80> in which folder is located my "Trash"? I cannot find ~/Trash, ~/.Trash ecc.... any idea?
[21:01] <snwbrdr> hi
[21:01] <psichas> .trash001
[21:02] <aalooping> hi
[21:02] <ech0s7_> where can i find how to compile kernel on ubuntu natty ?
[21:02] <Pici> !trash | Andy80
[21:02] <psichas> hey :D
[21:02] <Pici> !kernel | ech0s7_
[21:02] <fendell> tensorpudding, i'm using 2 GeForce GTX 460, and cant increase resolution, and cant activate effekts. Is there some configuration i need to do with the SLI
[21:02] <Andy80> thanks Pici !
[21:03] <tensorpudding> i don't know anything about SLI
[21:03] <ech0s7_> thanks Pici
[21:03] <ech0s7_> Pici, i have also seen this link but there isn't wiki for natty
[21:04] <aalooping> hi, I had a question: under linux, I write a program that use a .so, I put the .so in the same folder of my executable file. but I have this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libgloox.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:04] <fendell> tensorpudding, ok thanks anyway
[21:04] <aalooping> can you help me please?
[21:04] <snwbrdr> Does anyone else set up to send sms vis console ?
[21:05] <tensorpudding> aalooping: that's not how it works
[21:05] <tensorpudding> bah
[21:05] <tensorpudding> don't ask questions and then leave
[21:05] <ech0s7_> Pici, i have also seen this link but there isn't wiki for natty
[21:06] <Pici> ech0s7_: anything past Lucid should work the same.
[21:07] <Firefishe> I have an Asus G50V running Ubuntu Lucid.  There is a physical slide-switch on the outside of the laptop for the wireless card.  When I boot into Lucid, with the switch off, I don't have wireless on the desktop (KDE 4.5.x - using nm-applet).  I usually have to reboot with the switch on, then all works fine, and can access networks from nm-applet's menu.
[21:07] <Firefishe> I want to know how I can reinitialize the wireless card without having to reboot.
[21:08] <fendell> Is there anyone that know if i need to configure SLI on my 2 GeForce GTX 460 in 10.04 LTS, cause i cant up the resolution and cant activate effekts.
[21:08] <Torne> my monitor doesn't do EDID because it's old and crappy. is there a remotely sensible way to get it to let me select 1280x1024?
[21:08] <maco> !resolution | Torne there are instructions for adding more modes with xrandr here
[21:08] <eipi-1> Firefishe, , did you try to reload or manually load the wifi modules?
[21:09] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Yes.  Here's my module output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616085/
[21:10] <Firefishe> eipi-1: The module is iwlagn for the Intel Wifi 5100
[21:10] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I've insmodded, modprobed, and done everything I know of to make it work.  I always end up having to reboot, make sure the slide-switch is ON, then I'm okay.
[21:11] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I mean, it's no big deal, I'm just trying to solve a problem for fun.
[21:11] <je0rjey> bit.ly/wIuZr
[21:11] <wink_> can someone help me sort out a sources.list problem?  i have a box running jaunty and anytime i touch apt i get tons of 404s (update included).  I can't seem to produce a working sources.list, can anyone help me out?
[21:12] <je0rjey> wink_, try this link bit.ly/wIuZr
[21:12] <Pici> wink_: Jaunty has reached its End of Life and its repositories were archived, so you will not be able to get any more updates.
[21:12] <zertyu> hello
[21:12] <xangua> wink_: jaunty is no longer supported, upgrade to  supported distro
[21:12] <wink_> Pici: i dont want updates, i want to be able to dist-upgrade
[21:12] <wink_> and i cant
[21:12] <alaing> anyone know if a channel exists for classic ASP?
[21:12] <zertyu> how to check if an port is open on a particular server ?
[21:13] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (ubuntu 11.04), I'm having update manager poping, but when I try to update or check, I get error messages shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/616095/ How can I fix this? TIA!
[21:13] <wink_> is there any way to get apt running enough to allow me to dist-upgrade?
[21:13] <celthunder> zertyu: telnet/netstat
[21:13] <Pici> wink_: karmic, the next release is also EOL. See  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:13] <jkoudys> Can I set the appmenu in ubuntu unity so that it displays the title and the filemenu all the time, not only the filemenu when I put my cursor to the top?
[21:13] <Pici> je0rjey: Please don't post meaningless links here.
[21:13] <zertyu> how to netstat ? celthunder
[21:13] <alaing> how can i update my ubuntu 10.04 server edition to the latest one from shell
[21:13] <wink_> i'll upgrade as far as i need to, but right now i cant do anything short of rebuilding the machine which would be miserable
[21:13] <xTuMoHx> Всем привеи
[21:13] <alvaritolalala> ç
[21:14] <celthunder> zertyu: login to the server and netstat -nL will show listening ports
[21:14] <alvaritolalala> Hi
[21:14] <xTuMoHx> Всем привет
[21:14] <Pici> !ru | xTuMoHx
[21:14] <tensorpudding> !ru | xTuMoHx
[21:14] <xTuMoHx> English mIRC?
[21:15] <alvaritolalala> I've got a problem with my laptop. It's very old and I don't know how to fit it, I've tried almost everything I've found on the internet but it does not work. My laptop does play any sound when connectinng headphones, any help?
[21:15] <wink_> Pici: so am i screwed or is there a way to convince apt to allow me to upgrade this box?
[21:15] <xangua> wink_: download ubuntu from ubuntu.com and fresh install
[21:15] <wink_> that has to be the worst solution ever :p
[21:15] <alaing> how can i update my ubuntu 10.04 server edition to the latest one from shell
[21:15] <Gskellig> still no unity working =(
[21:15] <shomon> hi, I was just on here a while back. I've booted from hiren's boot cd, into a linux live cd. I then downloaded an iso for natty, and now I extracted the iso contents to a directory on the external hard drive
[21:15] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: using pulse/alsa/oss?
[21:16] <shomon> how do I now set it up so I can install linux by booting from the hd?
[21:16] <xTuMoHx> русские есть?
[21:16] <shomon> no cds so this seems the only way
[21:16] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, and iwconfig or ifconfig -a ?
[21:16] <alvaritolalala> celthunder: I've just installed a fresh 11.04, so the one that comes by default
[21:16] <celthunder> shomon: you can install from hdd by using debootstrap....
[21:16] <Pici> wink_: If you just need one package, you can change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main" and similar, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty to upgrade to another release.
[21:16] <xangua> !upgrade | alaing
[21:16] <shomon> how to I get debootstrap celthunder ?
[21:16] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: One sec, I'll get them.
[21:16] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: pavucontrol and set the default output to the headphone
[21:17] <zertyu> perfect celthunder
[21:17] <alaing> thanks xangua
[21:17] <alvaritolalala> celthunder: it does not work
[21:17] <zertyu> now how to check system performence like netstat
[21:17] <alvaritolalala> just silence
[21:17] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: what about it
[21:17] <celthunder> shomon: one sec
[21:17] <shomon> thanks
[21:18] <xTuMoHx> Who is from Russia???
[21:18] <shomon> I'm looking it up, but it seems to be a separate package. not sure I can compile stuff from this live cd
[21:18] <xangua> !ru  | xTuMoHx
[21:18] <wink_> Pici: perfect, that seems to be upgrading me to karmic, once thats done, will i need to dist-upgrade again?
[21:18] <Pici> xTuMoHx: Use #ubuntu-ru or ##russian
[21:18] <celthunder> shomon: what's your build distro you're building it from?
[21:18] <Pici> wink_: Yes, you'll need to upgrade to at least lucid to be supported.
[21:18] <shomon> um...
[21:19] <celthunder> shomon: i thought you said you wereinstalling from hdd?
[21:19] <wink_> ok, is there a similar sources.list for the karmic -> lucid upgrade?
[21:19] <shomon> I downloaded the latest ubuntu as iso
[21:19] <Gskellig> can someone help me with unity
[21:19] <xTuMoHx> thx
[21:19] <shomon> I just downloaded natty, and I extracted it to the hdd
[21:19] <celthunder> shomon: then use the livecd installer...debootstrap is for installing from the hdd
[21:19] <shomon> but now I want to figure out how to use that to install
[21:19] <shomon> I just dumped it in a subdirectory
[21:19] <shomon> so I guessed I might need to configure the autoload file
[21:19] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Here's the output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616102/
[21:19] <shomon> autorun even
[21:20] <maco> shomon: you're supposed to burn the iso to a cd or a flash drive
[21:20] <Dulak> wink_: stick to LTS releases, and upgrade LTS to LTS, to avoid this kind of issue.  lucid is the last LTS, next LTS is april 2012 iirc
[21:20] <shomon> I don't have cds here...
[21:20] <skrappjaw> how does one use a git repo?
[21:20] <shomon> or I might but under a bed where someone is sleeping :*
[21:20] <maco> shomon: or a flash drive?
[21:20] <wink_> Dulak: yeah, duly noted.  i've just gotta get this thing up to lucid first :p
[21:20] <ashmew2> skrappyjaw : www.github.com/help/
[21:20] <Dulak> skrappjaw: install git-core
[21:20] <shomon> I have an external hd and I know my computer will boot from it
[21:20] <maco> shomon: how about 2 computers connected on a network? in that case you can set upa PXE server on one and PXE boot the one you want to install to
[21:20] <shomon> because it recognised it on boot this time
[21:21] <celthunder> shomon: uhm make a chroot from the livecd on your hdd and then rn the files off the hdd partition you're using to start from? idk...i use debootstrap remotely or usbstick if local
[21:21] <Gskellig> can someone help me get unity working? it wont start
[21:21] <_Neytiri_> how do i update via cmd line
[21:21] <celthunder> Gskellig: what's the error
[21:21] <alaing> xangua: from reading those notes am i right in thinking i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04?
[21:21] <shomon> usbstick - I'll look that up celthunder thanks
[21:21] <ashmew2> skrappyjaw : OOPS , wrong link , here's the correct one : http://help.github.com/set-up-git-redirect/
[21:21] <sneakyimp> >	hello all. I'm interested in using git-gui and gitk (with the nifty graphical user interface) on my Ubuntu 10 desktop. Can anyone explain how to install? Got a link?
[21:21] <celthunder> _Neytiri_: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> _Neytiri_, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:21] <Gskellig> celtthunder, it just wont start
[21:21] <sneakyimp> I've tried the Ubuntu software center and I don't see it
[21:21] <cgroza> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:21] <Dulak> _Neytiri_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[21:22] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:22] <celthunder> Gskellig: ok...so it drops you to a terminal?
[21:22] <Gskellig> ive logged in with "ubuntu" not "ubuntu classic" i KNOW my hardware supports it because it was working fine before
[21:22] <Gskellig> gnome works
[21:22] <Gskellig> not unity
[21:22] <alaing> just a bit comfused about how to upgrade using the shell as most of those techniques require a gui and I'm operating a headless server
[21:22] <_Neytiri_> E: Invalid operation safe-upgrade
[21:22] <skrappjaw> thanks ashmew
[21:23] <shomon>  is a flash drive the same as an external usb hard drive?
[21:23] <shomon> I mean the definition in general
[21:23] <edbian> sneakyimp: sudo apt-get install git git-gui gitk
[21:23] <Dulak> _Neytiri_: use upgrade instead of safe-upgrade, you're running an old version
[21:23] <littlebearz> alaing: use ssh ?
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> _Neytiri_, safe-upgrade is an Aptitude not an apt-get option
[21:23] <sneakyimp> edbian: thx.  will that also install the GUI interfaces?
[21:23] <Gskellig> anyone?
[21:23] <_Neytiri_> its 10.4
[21:23] <edbian> shomon: They are the same except that a Hard drive usually is a disc.  A solid state drive there is no difference
[21:23] <alaing> littlebearz: i am connecting to it using ssh
[21:24] <edbian> sneakyimp: git-gui and gitk   ;)
[21:24] <alaing> xangua: from reading those notes am i right in thinking i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04?
[21:24] <shomon> edbian: so I should be able to get ubuntu to boot from it
[21:24] <shomon> thanks
[21:24] <celthunder> shomon: no...both will work though...
[21:24] <Dulak> ZykoticK9: good call i'm too used to aptitude
[21:24] <xangua> alaing: yes
[21:24] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:24] <edbian> shomon: From a USB HDD?  Sure.  You can boot from any USB storage device provided your motherboard allows you too.
[21:24] <s_p_or_t_o> howdy, i'm trying to stream video via a samba shared folder and the color is off (green) anyone have any ideas?
[21:24] <shomon> ah good. making a chroot seems like not the simplest way to get my hard drive to be bootable
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> Dulak, ;)
[21:24] <littlebearz> alaing: can't you just delete the / and install new ver and move files back?
[21:24] <celthunder> kikki: fn+brightness key or on the monitor itself ?
[21:24] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, at the moment it seems to work pretty well, right? it would be interesting what the output is when wifi doenst work, so maybe reboot with killswitch off and get those outputs? also what happens in tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep wlan0 and then switch on the killswitch
[21:24] <xangua> if you want latest alaing
[21:25] <celthunder> s
[21:25] <kikki> celthunder, it does not work.
[21:25] <littlebearz> alaing: wait, nvm, u're ssh would be gone
[21:25] <kikki> celthunder, fn + brightness key doesnt work
[21:25] <shomon> edbian It does
[21:25] <sneakyimp> edbian: tyvm
[21:25] <celthunder> kikki: does it work in bios?
[21:25] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Well, I'll give it a try.  Be back in a few.
[21:25] <shomon> so the only questino is how to get the contents of the iso I just extracted to a /boot dir in the hdd to actually boot
[21:25] <Gskellig> anybody have an idea for my unity issue?
[21:26] <alaing> littlebearz: thats what i'm worried about
[21:26] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Thanks for your helpo with the fun :)
[21:26] <Firefishe> help
[21:26] <Gskellig> unity was working on this computer with a different install of 11.04, on THIS install it won't work
[21:26] <fr00g> Does anyone know why GnoMenu is partially behind my panel?
[21:26] <kikki> celthunder, the changing of screen brightness works when i start the computer but after a while like 5 minutes it will stop working.
[21:26] <celthunder> shomon: dd if=....isofile of=/dev/<usbdrive
[21:26] <edbian> shomon: I think the easiest way is to make a partition on the external and use the usb creator and point it at that partition
[21:26] <alaing> littlebearz: i now know i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04
[21:26] <edbian> shomon: if of works too I suppose
[21:26] <celthunder> shomon: er ...yeah replace relevant parts obviously
[21:27] <littlebearz> alaing: yeah, i'm pretty sure there's tutorial on google that wouldn't need to reinstall ssh
[21:27] <alaing> littlebearz xangua : if i upgrade will a not be able to connect to it using ssh ?
[21:27] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, np cu soon ;)
[21:27] <celthunder> shomon: gl i'm going to work
[21:27] <shomon> thanks celthunder and edbian
[21:27] <whiteybulger> how can i make Skype + unity work corretly ?
[21:28] <Firefishe> eipi-1_:  When I do the 'tail...' command, should I also do the same instance *after* switching it on?
[21:28] <cgroza> whiteybulger, it already works
[21:28] <whiteybulger> cgroza: the icon for skype, plus new messages, does not appear correctly in the upper right of the taskbar
[21:28] <Gskellig> someone help me fix unity?
[21:29] <xangua> whiteybulger: if you mean integrate it with the me menu, there is a tutorial on omg!ubuntu! blog
[21:29] <antihero> Hey people, I'm trying to get a sshfs to mount whenever my interface is up, so I made a script in /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/network/if-down.d but when I do ifconfig eth0 down/up it doesn't mount the sshfs. Why would this be?
[21:29] <xangua> me menu, indicators, envelope
[21:29]  * linuxnewb says hello
[21:30] <llutz> antihero: use ifup/ifdown, not ifconfig. ifconfig won't trigger those scripts inside /etc/network/*.d
[21:30] <cgroza> 16:30 *** Ownies JOIN
[21:30]  * linuxnewb is addicted to linux
[21:30] <sneakyimp> edbian:  OK I've run apt-get install git git-gui gitk and i see no addition applications in my applications menu, i see no context menu integration in the file system gui, and there are no git* apps in /bin or /sbin or /etc.
[21:30] <cgroza> whiteybulger, same here, but i have'nt given atention to that
[21:30] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, when calling tail with the -f flag, it continuously gives out messages. so start it before switching it on and keep it running for some time after. you can also check if modules are loaded and if not load iwlcore and iwlagn. keep tail running and pastebin all of it
[21:30] <whiteybulger> xangua: thanks.  that seems like a lot of work!
[21:30] <antihero> what does the -e mean after #!/bin/sh
[21:30] <antihero> llutz: Thanks
[21:31] <edbian> sneakyimp: hang on
[21:31] <cgroza> antithero, man sh
[21:31] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10? fn + brightness buttn stops working after 5 minutes for some odd reason
[21:31] <edbian> linuxnewb: who isn't?
[21:31] <Gskellig> kikki, what laptop?
[21:31]  * linuxnewb ^^
[21:31] <kikki> Gskellig: hp dv 6000 pavilion
[21:31] <xangua> linuxnewb: do you have any support question¿
[21:31] <alaing> littlebearz xangua : if i upgrade will a not be able to connect to it using ssh ?
[21:31] <tanath> i need to run wine with sudo on live disc, but i get "wine: /home/ubuntu/.wine is not owned by you". any help?
[21:32] <llutz> antihero: http://shellmariachi.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/hello-world/
[21:32] <Gskellig> hm, i dont know, i had to apply a fix to get my brightness keys working, but it was well documented
[21:32] <edbian> sneakyimp: Go to a folder with a git repo in it already.  Run gitk
[21:32] <xangua> alaing: why not¿
[21:32] <cgroza> antihero, do: man sh
[21:32] <alaing> xangua:  so if i upgrade i shouldn't need to reinstall/setup ssh
[21:33] <Gskellig> kikki, its doubtful this can help you, but this fixed brightness keys on my asus ul30vt...
[21:33] <Gskellig> http://wiki.daviddarts.com/Ubuntu_Maverick_on_the_Asus_UL30VT#Screen_Brightness_.28Backlight.29
[21:33] <Gskellig> maybe something similar for HP?
[21:33] <xangua> alaing: aah.... unless you want to
[21:33] <NoPinky> helloo
[21:33] <antihero> woo! it worked
[21:33] <Gomaaz> somebody has experience with yaboot?
[21:33] <Gomaaz> [22:33:18]  <Gomaaz> can't boot linux after installation on my G5 Tower
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> how do I change the UI back to that of previous installs?
[21:33] <linuxnewb> xangua, not right now, thank you :)
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> I really hate this unity bs
[21:33] <alaing> xangua: no i dont want to have to setup ssh all agai nas my server is headless
[21:33] <rww> linuxnewb: select "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen
[21:33] <Gskellig> rinkukokiri, log out, login with the option "ubuntu classic"
[21:33] <linuxnewb> rww, ok will do
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> kk
[21:34] <xangua> !classic | rinkukokiri
[21:34] <rww> linuxnewb: eep, sorry, wrong person
[21:34] <alaing> I'm busy working through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[21:34] <NoPinky> anyone here has experience with installing ubuntu on pogoplugs?
[21:34] <linuxnewb> rww, ah ok np :)
[21:35] <przemyslaw> witam czy zastalem kogos z polski??
[21:36] <Pici> !pl | przemyslaw
[21:36] <asoltys> hi i'm trying to run the unity launcher editor described here: http://ubuntuguide.net/manage-ubuntu-11-04-unity-launcher-quicklist-using-unity-launcher-editor  but apparently i need the PyGI library.  can someone help me install it? google's not being very helpful and i don't know python
[21:36] <Fafali> hello
[21:37] <kikki> Gskellig: if sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=1A doesn't work on terminal, will this method work at all?
[21:38] <Gskellig> probably not.
[21:38] <Gskellig> also that guide is specefic for my laptop
[21:38] <Gskellig> it would be different for an HP
[21:38] <alaing> any good vim tutorials?
[21:38] <Gskellig> my laptop did have the exact same problem though
[21:38] <Gskellig> brightness keys would work for like 30 seconds after boot then quit for me
[21:39] <je0rjey> can somebody tell me how to port forward in linux
[21:39] <Gskellig> it still shows the brightness OSD going up and down but not the actual brightness
[21:39] <tanath> need help running a windows app to scan home folder from live disc. no matter what i do there's permissions issues
[21:40] <Koobilitoo> Dang KM0201 your're not on are you
[21:40] <grendal-prime> or a decent swf editor
[21:40] <grendal-prime> grrrr
[21:40] <trism> asoltys: seems like you should only need python-gobject and gir1.2-glib-2.0
[21:40] <Koobilitoo> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my usb devices?
[21:40] <grendal-prime> i just want to make some drop down menu type thangs.
[21:40] <_Neytiri_> how do i show hte current OS verson?
[21:40] <edbian> tanath: Why do you need a windows app to do that?
[21:40] <rww> !version
[21:41] <Koobilitoo> !usb
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, because i need to remove windows malware
[21:41] <Koobilitoo> no hmm
[21:41] <PL4Y3R> Does ubuntu have a system defrag
[21:41] <PL4Y3R> ?
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, and clam sucks
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> kikki, you man need acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor in your default grub line - that solved brightness issues on me EEE for me
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, my .wine is infected
[21:41] <_Neytiri_> well i guess it didnt really upgrade cause its still 10.04.2
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: Mmmm, I'm not sure how you can do that.   Wine apps can't see your home folder.  Perhaps you could simply download the ext4 driver for windows and then run your apps natively?
[21:42] <salat> hey..i backuped a partition with partimage. so i got 49 compressed files. the problem is...the first backup file got lost. is there a way to restore most of the data without the first file?
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, don't have windows
[21:42] <wink_> Pici: I'm following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty but when i run do-release-upgrade it's trying to jump me up to lucid from jaunty and it's failing.  how do i convince it to upgrade me to karmic first?
[21:42] <Nu> THIS ISNT THE RIGHT SERVER
[21:42] <Nu> ugh
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: ... They why do you care about windows malware?
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, except in a vm
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: mmmm
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, like i said, my .wine is infected
[21:42] <Koobilitoo> I'm wondering how to get Ubuntu to recognize all my usb devices?
[21:42] <PL4Y3R> Does ubuntu have system defrag
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: What?
[21:43] <edbian> tanath: What do you mean your .wine is infected?  What makes you say that?
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> PL4Y3R, not an issue with EXT formatted partitions
[21:43] <Gskellig> wine can get viruses? lol
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> PL4Y3R, ext3 can have some fragmentation issues actually
[21:43] <tanath> edbian, got trojans
[21:43] <edbian> PL4Y3R: ext automatically defrags for you with every read and write so you never have to manually
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Gskellig, only a select few, but yes
[21:43] <tanath> edbian, can you help or not?
[21:44] <Nu> Can anyone tell me the difference between X-Chat gnome and regular X-Chat? I'm liking it less because of its lack of an opening list
[21:44] <fr00g> How do I disable compiz shadows altogether?
[21:44] <zertyu> how to
[21:44] <Gskellig> that's amusing
[21:44] <edbian> tanath: Just delete the trojans?
[21:44] <PL4Y3R> k thanks
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> edbian, not really - it doesn't fragment to begin with
[21:44] <zertyu> hello there
[21:44] <Koobilitoo> Gnome-xhat is a lesser version
[21:44] <Koobilitoo> u want Xchat
[21:44] <wink_> I'm following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty but when i run do-release-upgrade it's trying to jump me up to lucid from jaunty and it's failing.  how do i convince it to upgrade me to karmic first?
[21:44] <Gskellig> can someone help me get unity working
[21:44] <Nu> k
[21:44] <tanath> edbian, need to do so from live disc. it protects itself
[21:44] <edbian> tanath: If I'm frustrating you I apologize. Only trying to understand so I can help
[21:44] <zertyu> how to get starting with manpage
[21:44] <Gskellig> unity wont start for me. its not a hardware issue
[21:44] <zertyu> ?
[21:44] <Nu> BE RIGHT BACK THEN AFTER I GET XCHAT
[21:44] <Nu> or mIRC
[21:44] <cgroza> Nu, use irc on emacs, :D
[21:44] <tanath> edbian, ran something i shouldn't have. got infected. protects itself from removal, so need to do so from live disc
[21:44] <Nu> Wait
[21:44] <Nu> why the hell is this nick registerd?
[21:45] <Nu> I've never been on this server..
[21:45] <sneakyimp> edbian:  ok modest success.  i did a git on a project and ran the command you suggested.  i know see the gitk window -- what about git-gui?  any idea?
[21:45] <PL4Y3R> and plus ever since i switched from mac os to ubuntu i've been have trouble using the net
[21:45] <Koobilitoo> Edbian
[21:45] <edbian> tanath: But it's only in wine.  Surely you can just delete that trojan or delete the entire .wine
[21:45] <tanath> edbian, user 'ubuntu' on live disc has different UID than my user, so no permission to access
[21:45] <llutz> PL4Y3R: extfs fragments over the time too and there is no defragmentation tool available
[21:45] <Koobilitoo> Can u tell me how to get all my usb devices recognized?
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> tanath, do you have anything installed in wine that you care about?  if you don't, just delete your ~/.wine folder - problem solved ;)
[21:45] <robin0800> Gskellig, it might be or driver issue
[21:45] <tanath> edbian, no, there's stuff in there i don't want to lose. and i'd have to find all the files which are infected. need to scan to even do that
[21:45] <oCean> !defrag
[21:45] <edbian> sneakyimp: in gitk: file -> start git gui
[21:46] <Gskellig> robin0800, its an on board intel graphics card
[21:46] <Gskellig> it worked fine in the livecd
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: sudo command on the live CD
[21:46] <tanath> edbian, ZykoticK9 i need to either run wine as root (would be easiest) or do something else
[21:46] <CrazyT> Hi im running crunchbang linux, in ubuntu what is the out put of your sudo apt-get install lamp?
[21:46] <tanath> edbian, running wine as root complains that /home/ubuntu/.wine is not owned by you
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: sudo wine somefile.exe
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: mmmm I see
[21:46] <ZykoticK9> CrazyT, there is no "lamp" packages, it is in tasksel
[21:46] <PL4Y3R> ever since i switched from mac os to ubuntu i've been having trouble connecting to the net.what should i do
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, only thing i can find googling is advice to never run wine as root. but that advice doesn't apply here
[21:47] <Koobilitoo> Is my text coming through? :D lol
[21:47] <edbian> tanath: So you wanna run some virs removal thing in wine to clean out wine itself?  How do you know this trojan is even running?
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, i need to do so anyway
[21:47] <cgroza> CrazyT, can't find the package
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, yes
[21:47] <Nu> yay
[21:47] <cgroza> CrazyT, you need to install apache
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, uh, i know it's not, because i'm on a live disc :P
[21:47] <edbian> tanath: How do you know the trojan is running?  Wine is not an operating system.
[21:47] <CrazyT> I used to run ubuntu i forgot what i wrote to install lamp
[21:47] <CFC> yo every body =3 i have a tiny problem ^^;;; anyone know how to get vsftpd working after installing and opend ports it refusses to connect and i do know i did encrypt my folders anyone that can help????
[21:47] <edbian> tanath: If you boot Ubuntu is the trojan running?
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, but my system is rather infected. i can't remove it when system is running
[21:48] <Nu> 1635.. wasn't expecting that high of a number for some reason
[21:48] <tanath> edbian, i think so, 'cause i can't remove it
[21:48] <overclucker> tanath: you could try clamav
[21:48] <sneakyimp> edbian:  thanks for that.  you rule!  any thoughts on integrating via file manager context menu?
[21:48] <tanath> overclucker, clam doesn't even detect anything any time i point it at stuff
[21:48] <edbian> tanath: Here is the bottom line, there is no way that a windows trojan infected your Ubuntu os through wine.
[21:48] <tanath> edbian, you are wrong
[21:48] <edbian> sneakyimp: Naw,  glad I could help though!
[21:48] <PL4Y3R> tanath do a clean install of ubuntu that should do it
[21:48] <Nu> So yes. Why is this name registered? Like I said, I've never been here =/
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, it certainly can happen, it's just rare
[21:49] <oCean> CrazyT: this channel does not provide support for crunchbang, try #crunchbang
[21:49] <j33bus> LUEshi brain on
[21:49] <edbian> tanath: You said you cannot remove it.  How have you tried to remove it?
[21:49] <oCean> Nu: maybe try #freenode channel? This is ubuntu support
[21:49] <tanath> PL4Y3R, too much work remembering and reinstalling apps
[21:49] <Koobilitoo> i think my name is registered tooand i tried to picka really hard one lol
[21:49] <PL4Y3R> but if u have very important documents on your pc back up most of them
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, that's a silly question
[21:49] <Nu> Never been here as in never been on this server.
[21:49] <PL4Y3R> tanath,back up some stuff
[21:49] <CrazyT> oCean i know im in their also, i was once a ubuntu user too i just forgot ... My brain is just dead :P
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, how else would i know it can't remove it? i spend two days scanning and trying to remove
[21:50] <PL4Y3R> what trojan is it
[21:50] <edbian> tanath: Using the file manager?  using CLI?  as sudo?  using clamav?
[21:50] <Koobilitoo> I have an Ubuntu question have asked twice already
[21:50] <oCean> CrazyT: ubuntu uses tasksel to install those packages
[21:50] <tanath> PL4Y3R, detects them as generic names
[21:50] <Koobilitoo> What do I need to do to get ubuntu to notice all usb devices
[21:50] <PL4Y3R> list me the names
[21:50] <tanath> edbian, using malware bytes, mainly. it cannot complete the scan though
[21:51] <CFC> =/
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: In the virtual machine or in wine?
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, even scanning from inside VM brought down the VM
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, both
[21:51] <bolovanos> hi
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: Is the trojan 'in wine' or in the vm?
[21:51] <PL4Y3R> you runing 2 virus programs
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, did i mention i spent two days scanning and crap? :P
[21:51] <CFC> anyone know how to get vsftpd working after installing and opend ports it refusses to connect and i do know i did encrypt my folders anyone that can help????
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, both unfortunately
[21:51] <oCean> !who | PL4Y3R
[21:51] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, which one are recognized, front, back?
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: How did you manage that?
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, ran the same thing inside and outside
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: ahh, I see
[21:51] <Koobilitoo> front
[21:52] <Koobilitoo> i mean hold on
[21:52] <edbian> tanath: Well the VM has restore points. Did you ever set one?
[21:52] <llutz> CFC: check vsftpd-logs, what error when connecting?
[21:52] <tanath> edbian, yeah, but too far back.. would rather not use it. anyway, if i can get rid of it/them from wine, i should be able to manage in the vm
[21:52] <Koobilitoo> i didnt see that Cgroza until like it flew up the screen lol
[21:52] <je0rjey> how do u set the netmask so that every ip is included
[21:52] <Nu> does wine work with doom 2?
[21:52] <oCean> !appdb | Nu
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> edbian, i don't think my KVM+libvirt VMs have restore point ;)
[21:52] <tanath> Nu, should
[21:52] <llutz> je0rjey: /0
[21:53] <Nu> HIGHLIGHTS
[21:53] <metroider> what happened to the power manager graph --is it possible to get it back?
[21:53] <PL4Y3R> ubottu how agian? lost my glasses somewhere
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> Nu, Doom 2 was a DOS program - it will work in DOSBOX
[21:53] <dart> I think a recent natty update to xorg has created some problems in my system...Where do i report this?
[21:53] <Nu> It was DOS? Odd. I dont remember that
[21:53] <Nu> OH WELL
[21:53] <CFC> llutz Error:	Network error: Connection refused
[21:53] <CFC> Error:	Could not connect to server
[21:53] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, did you do a lsusb?
[21:53] <edbian> tanath: So, in wine.  Besides malware bytes telling you about this trojan.  Can you tell it is running?
[21:54] <Koobilitoo> didnt know about it
[21:54] <Koobilitoo> i will try
[21:54] <edbian> tanath: Does malware bytes tell you what file it is?
[21:54] <llutz> CFC: " Connection refused" means, nothing listening on this port. check "netstat -tulpen" for vsftpd running, check iptables-rules etc.pp
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, don't think so. but i figure it must be to be shutting down mbam
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, no, it can't complete the scan...
[21:54] <CFC> it is
[21:54] <CFC> 22
[21:54] <CFC> thats the port
[21:54] <llutz> CFC: 22 is ssh, are you sure?
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, did once, so i saw generic names, but now it doesn't even complete
[21:54] <CFC> unless 11.04 is changed
[21:54] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, this will list all recognized USBs it recognizes
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> yes i found it
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> it listed all of them
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> but the usb stick when inserted doesnt pop up
[21:55] <CFC> i cant even connect with putty
[21:55] <cgroza> it means they are detected, the problem is somewhere else
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> why is your text in red?
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> lol
[21:55] <llutz> CFC: what are you talking about, ssh or ftp?
[21:55] <tanath> edbian, anyway, i'm trying to run nod32 scanner from live disc which seems to work better, but i need to be able to point it at the folder with permissions...
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> i tired to open a dialouge box with you
[21:55] <CFC> ftp
[21:55] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, because i address to you.
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> oh ok
[21:55] <llutz> CFC: why do you run ftp on port 22 (ssh-port)?
[21:55] <edbian> tanath: I have no idea.  Frankly.  I don't believe that you have a trojan 'running in wine'  It is possible it is running in the VM (likely even).  I think your best bet is to look up manual removal of the trojan for windows and do that in the virtual machine.
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> is it invisible to others?
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: sudo nod32  /path/to/folder
[21:56] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, yes
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, seriously? you're doubting it's infected?
[21:56] <llutz> cfc what has putty to do with it? its a ssh-client, not ftp
[21:56] <CFC> O.o its set to that
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: Or whatever, if you use sudo you will not have a permission issue
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> is it a bad idea to install aptitude?
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> how do i do it too?
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: wine is not an operating system
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, i don't know what trojans are there
[21:56] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, you need to put the username in front of the line
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> example please
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> does it mess up anything
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, again, can't run sudo wine. wine won't let me
[21:56] <CFC> well dosent putty run on 22??
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, forget about the VM for now
[21:56] <llutz> cfc what has putty to do with it? its a ssh-client, not ftp
[21:56] <oCean> Koobilitoo: if you talk to a specific person, just start the line with that persons nickname. You can use tab to complete the nickname, for example type oce<tab>
[21:56] <PL4Y3R> tanath:is my name yellow
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> cgroza oh ok
[21:57] <tanath> edbian, why are you saying 'wine is not an operating system' i know this...
[21:57] <CFC> err
[21:57] <tanath> PL4Y3R, huh?
[21:57] <Dulak> sw0rdfish: i prefer aptitude, it's much better at resolving dependencies than apt-get
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> cgroza, hi
[21:57] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, problem solved?
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> let me see
[21:57] <CFC> vsftpd has the port 22 when installed
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> yes!
[21:57] <tanath> edbian, i just want to know if there's a way to run wine with sudo. that would be best/simplest/easiest
[21:57] <CFC> and putty runs the same port
[21:57] <llutz> CFC: not by default
[21:57] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, ok
[21:58] <CFC> o.o
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> aha
[21:58] <CFC> had last time
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: chown root:root ~/.wine    sudo wine <whatever>
[21:58] <Koobilitoo> 1 * for Cgroza
[21:58] <llutz> CFC: you don't make any sense, bye
[21:58] <tanath> edbian, i jumped through your hoops to explain why...
[21:58] <Koobilitoo> u get 100 u get a kewl award haha
[21:58] <CFC> <.<
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: I realize that.  You asked how to run wine as root, that should do it.
[21:58] <CFC> what a support this is
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> i remember once in backtrack it messed up some things but i guess thats completely
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> different
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> !aptitude
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: I wont force you to do what I want.
[21:59] <m4v> 7j
[21:59] <tanath> edbian, dammit, i tried a few variations on that already that didn't work
[21:59] <PL4Y3R> i'm have trouble connecting to the net sometime i had mac os up here but i put ubuntu mac was fine
[21:59] <tanath> edbian, that did it. thanks
[21:59] <je0rjey> llutz, it says /0 is a invalid subnet mask
[22:00] <alaing> i need some help with an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. I am trying  to upgrade my headless server usign ssh. I have downloaded the and started the upgrade. it has got to a package config screen and wants me to check libc6. what is this?
[22:00] <je0rjey> in cidr notation is it 000.000.000.000 ?
[22:01] <alaing> it says services to restart for gnu libc library upgrade
[22:01] <shomon> I keep getting /dev/sr0 is write protected.. how do I get it read write so I can burn an iso on it?
[22:01] <tanath> edbian, scanning away. i'll let you know what i find ;p
[22:01] <alaing> followed by gdm vsftpd rsync mysql con atd
[22:01] <alaing> what exactly is this?
[22:01] <edbian> tanath: sure
[22:01] <Blubas> hey everyone
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> shomon, how are you trying to burn the cd/dvd?  a normal cp won't work.
[22:02] <je0rjey> what is the subnet mask for all the ip addresses.. my firewall blocks all incoming packets except for those from the exception list
[22:02] <edbian> ZykoticK9: How do you burn a DVD via the command line?
[22:02] <cgroza> Blubas, hi
[22:02] <shomon> mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/dvd ZykoticK9
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> edbian, growisofs
[22:02] <je0rjey> so to set the rules what should be the source ip and its netmask
[22:02] <edbian> je0rjey: 0.0.0.0  makes no restrictions
[22:02] <clooluss> Hi. I want to make one of the folders in my home folder available to other users on this computer. I have created a group and put the relevant users in it, but how do I give access to that group. Also, can I give them access to the sub-folder without giving access to the home folder?
[22:02] <n1xNc0d3> how can i get info of any app using how much bandwidth?
[22:02] <Blubas> any idea on how to remove all the unwanted programs I have in my Ubuntu? Removal by using Synaptic usually leads to me removing important stuff, too...
[22:02] <edbian> ZykoticK9: I have a .iso  Can I use dd?
[22:02] <shomon> well, without the ZykoticK9 :)
[22:02] <Koobilitoo> anyone else ever use Bleacbit?
[22:03] <Koobilitoo> Bleachbit I mean
[22:03] <cgroza> Blubas, programs like?
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> Bleachbit? What's the point?
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> edbian, not entirely sure - i would have said no, but just read someone using that method today (perhaps in this channel earlier)
[22:03] <tanath> bleachbit, yes
[22:03] <edbian> clooluss: yes you can.  chmod <you>:<thatGroup> /path/to/folder
[22:03] <tanath> handy
[22:03] <PL4Y3R> Zykotick9: i need help having a net issuee
[22:03] <edbian> ZykoticK9: ok thanks
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> Bleachbit => what's the point?
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> shomon, that "should" mount for reading the cd/dvd ok - but you can't write with that method
[22:03] <Blubas> cgroza, the calculator, the dictionary, sound recorder, and so on...
[22:03] <tanath> YankDownUnder, quick and easy way to clean up some stuff
[22:03] <shomon> well, I want to write an iso to it
[22:03] <Gskellig> i have absolutely no idea why unity isn't working
[22:04] <tanath> free up space and get rid of clutter
[22:04] <shomon> how do I mount it like that?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> tanath, That, my friend, is paranoia established in an MS world.
[22:04] <Gskellig> installed it twice with the same cd. first time unity worked fine, second time it wont start
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> hi
[22:04] <tanath> YankDownUnder, paranoia? what is?
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> for using gnome 3  i installed sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[22:04] <cgroza> Blubas, you can remove them with sudo apt-get remove <program-name>, the others stuff are only dependencies.
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> is it enough ?
[22:04] <edbian> YankDownUnder: tanath believes that his wine has a trojan
[22:04] <tanath> YankDownUnder, bleachbit? it's not a security tool, how do you fit paranoia in there?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> Programs like "Bleachbit" are fairly meaningless under unix/BSD/linux
[22:05] <tanath> edbian, i think mbam is more reliable than you
[22:05] <Blubas> cgroza, is there any way to remove only the programs themselves, and not all the dependencies?
[22:05] <xangua> !gnome3 | Night-Hacks
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> IF there's a trojan/backdoor under WINE, that is easily resolved by just deleting the root of the WINE prefix.
[22:05] <cgroza> !bleachbit
[22:05] <shomon> how do you mount a dvd so it's writable? (it is a drive that can write to dvd)
[22:05] <edbian> tanath: I believe malwarebytes is finding a file that is a trojan.  I do not believe that trojan is running
[22:05] <tanath> YankDownUnder, i know, but there's stuff in there i don't want to lose
[22:05] <mattk> Is there an up to date guide similar to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> YankDownUnder, that was my suggestion ;)
[22:06] <tanath> edbian, you have nothing to base that on
[22:06] <Night-Hacks> xangua: so ive just installed gnome-shell
[22:06] <bolovanos> trying to install 32bit office 2010 (single exe file) on Ubuntu 11.04 (wine ver. 1.2.2 ), extraction ends with "Setup Errors" - need msxml ver. 6.10.1129. How can Fix thix? Is there anybody who succeeded - according to this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=31 I guess not. Thanks for any help.
[22:06] <Tommo> Gents/Ladies - is anyone finding the apt-get update process slow this evening?
[22:06] <Night-Hacks> not gnome3
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> tanath, Then you can manually look in the WINE prefix and find what's NOT supposed to be there...besides, it's hard to write to the WINE registry, or get the WINE registry to do anything without your express knowledge...
[22:06] <tanath> edbian, there are apps that run every time wine is run, for instance. no reason a trojan can't do same. and would explain why mbam shuts down before finsihing scan when it gets to a certain point
[22:06] <PL4Y3R> tanath: wine might not have a trojan isnt it a windows emulator
[22:06] <bastidrazor> Tommo: pick a different mirror if the download is slow.
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> bolovanos, try in #wine-hq (i think)
[22:06] <qin> #winehq
[22:07] <tanath> PL4Y3R, it's a compatibiility layer
[22:07] <Tommo> bastidrazor - thanks - will try that (doh!)
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> qin, thanks
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Tommo: you're welcome. that is the most common fix for an overloaded mirror
[22:07] <bolovanos> thx - already in just nobody react :( ... waiting
[22:07] <tanath> YankDownUnder, simpler to use tools that know how to deal properly with the malware. manual removal isn't as reliable anymore
[22:07] <clooluss> edbian: that got me "chmod: invalid mode: `matt:home' " where matt is my username and home is the groupname - surely I should have some permission bits in there somewhere..?
[22:08] <Koobilitoo> some of the User-Ids cause me great Joy :D
[22:08] <tanath> malware has been getting more and more advanced and difficult to remove
[22:08] <PL4Y3R> well i don't belive it's a trojan some times when a virus program picks up something from another os or in you case and emulator it well alert u saying it's a trojan
[22:08] <cgroza> tanath, thats why i use linex
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> tanath, not on gnu/linux systems ;)
[22:08] <edbian> clooluss: sorry, chown!  not chmod :P
[22:09] <sixfour>  sixfour
[22:09] <YankDownUnder> tanath, Bleachbit has been known to hose a linux box, mate....by mucking with system libs and processes that shouldn't be mucked with. But hey, whoever wants to install it, well, that's yer story...
[22:09] <tanath> i'm sorry, but you guys don't know enough about what you're talking about
[22:09] <Koobilitoo> Chown is present tense for already starting to eat am Chown? lol
[22:09] <tanath> YankDownUnder, if you don't knwo what you're doing, yeah it can do that
[22:09] <tanath> YankDownUnder, wouldn't recommend it for everyone
[22:09] <edbian> tanath: what apps run when wine runs?
[22:10] <clooluss> ok that looks more promising. i will log out now and test it from another user accounts. Thanks.
[22:10] <tanath> edbian, spybot beta for instance
[22:10] <YankDownUnder> tanath, I don't and won't use it for my clients - nor here in the lab - regardless.
[22:10] <tanath> edbian, 2.0
[22:10] <maco> ZykoticK9: rootkits for *nix make it plenty hard to detect/remove malware. i remember a story bout 2-3 year ago where someone found their linux box had been owned for a good long while but hidden due to a rootkit
[22:10] <Night-Hacks> im using kernel 2.6.32 on my ubuntu 10.04
[22:10] <tanath> YankDownUnder, mm. i don't really use it either TBH, i just found it handy for a few things. and i'll prolly stick to those things when i run it again
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> maco, lol 2-3 years ago eh?  Imagine for a moment the number of windows infections in that time ;)
[22:11] <Night-Hacks> how can i update to latest kernel ?
[22:11] <maco> ZykoticK9: bigger targets get hit more? who'da thunk
[22:11] <xangua> !latest | Night-Hacks
[22:11] <cgroza> Night-Hacks, you must compile it from the latest branch
[22:11] <PL4Y3R> maco:u talkin bout a botnet
[22:11] <maco> tanath: if you rename the .wine directory and start with a clean one, the renamed one will be inert in the meantime (since wine will only look for the correctly named one), allowing you to pick through what's good/bad
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> maco, bad logic there - aren't servers more appealing to "own" then home computers - linux dominates that market
[22:11] <tanath> maco, yeah, and once you have a rootkit you can never be sure of being clean again
[22:11] <Night-Hacks> so what's the stable for my version ?
[22:12] <maco> PL4Y3R: there was a trojan in 2009 on gnome-look.org that put you onto a botnet too
[22:12] <tanath> maco, i know this. tried that... no good. seems to run any time wine runs
[22:12] <qin> Yes, my machines where in botnet for years, it was called SETI ;)
[22:12] <tanath> maco, or possibly without wine
[22:12] <maco> tanath: oh now thatd be interesting. first to report a new linux malware strain....
[22:12] <cgroza> Night-Hacks, I am sure google will tell.
[22:13] <PL4Y3R> maco:i know how to start one i'm not comlelty usless
[22:13] <maco> Night-Hacks: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <tanath> maco, 'tis certainly possible anyway
[22:13] <tanath> maco, i'd rather do something i'm reasonably sure will get rid of stuff. scanning from live disc
[22:13] <maco> tanath: well if its a new linux virus, there wouldnt be a definition for it yet....
[22:13] <PL4Y3R> Maco:but now a days it hard tryin to get away with a botnet to easy to pick up unless your king of leet
[22:14] <tanath> maco, no reason to think it's a virus. i do suspect rootkit though
[22:14] <maco> PL4Y3R: just how many people do you think sit around checking their netstat output constantly?
[22:14] <tanath> maco, spybot beta 2 has rootkit stuff and it found stuff in the vm, which is also infected
[22:14] <cgroza> maco, pou would need to enter your password to install that virus
[22:14] <maco> cgroza: so?
[22:14] <PL4Y3R> maco: alot of paroind people
[22:14] <tanath> maco, two things. one of which was MSE rootkit stuff (which i removed in ignorance) and the other unknown
[22:14] <cgroza> maco, big STOP
[22:14] <maco> cgroza: "hi, i'm a new theme!" "ok! *enter password to install theme*"
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: the trojan in '09 claimed to be a screensaver
[22:15] <cgroza> maco, that's why repos exist
[22:15] <tanath> maco, well all detections i've seen thus far have been generic trojan/rootkit stuff
[22:15] <iridium> i'm pr0n, gimme yout passwd to see my boobs
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: yes, but not everybody follows the "stick to the repos" advice
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: a lot of people are just plain gullible...or impatient
[22:15] <PL4Y3R> maco: but it wouldnt happen if you wouldnt download stuff you not supposed to the people that check there netstat alot are the people who download from piratebay
[22:15] <cgroza> maco, their bad, it still cannot transmit from PC to PC like in windows
[22:15] <qin> iridium: mypass
[22:15] <tanath> maco, that's what system monitor applet is for
[22:16] <Pici> !ot
[22:16] <clooluss> I'm afraid the chown command didn['t work either - I logged in as the other user and tried to ls into the folder but access was denied
[22:16] <maco> PL4Y3R, cgroza: does the fact that people *shouldn't* install untrusted software change the fact that they *do*?
[22:17] <cgroza> maco, of course not, but infections would be isolated, so it is not a big deal
[22:17] <iridium> qin: KTHXBYE
[22:17] <PL4Y3R> maco: well people that do are stupid then next thing u know the fbi is bustin down your door
[22:17] <tanath> PL4Y3R, not necessarily. everyone makes mistakes
[22:17] <everlast21> Hello. I have a question. I am trying to triple boot my late 2009 iMac with Mac OS X, Windows 7, and Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal.
[22:17] <maco> PL4Y3R: you realise you just called like 99% of computer users stupid?
[22:17] <clooluss> I created the user from the system > admin > users and groups gui. Should i have created it from the command line instead?
[22:18] <tanath> PL4Y3R, and FBI... what?
[22:18] <everlast21> It loads Ubuntu, but I gt a blank sereen.
[22:18] <everlast21> *screen
[22:18] <cgroza> maco, the greatest security risk is the user.
[22:18] <PL4Y3R> maco: i'm talkin bout torrenting what u talkin bout
[22:18] <maco> PL4Y3R: trojans
[22:18] <clooluss> everlast21: Does it boot OK from a live CD?
[22:18] <tanath> PL4Y3R, you assume torrenting is bad?
[22:18] <maco> cgroza: of course. which is why "linux is totally secure" is a bunch of bologna
[22:19] <pcpower> if you want more secure, try openbsd
[22:19] <edbian> clooluss: no that's fine
[22:19] <tanath> maco, does anyone actually think/claim that?
[22:19] <everlast21> I thought Ubuntu Studio does not have a live option. I get the install screen, but that's it.
[22:19] <nite613> I've got a machine throwing disk errors at me that I want to reboot. 'reboot' and 'shutdown -r now' both return with no errors but do nothing. Anything else I should try before the power switch?
[22:19] <rww> tanath: yup
[22:19] <tanath> indeed
[22:19] <maco> pcpower: no computer is secure if it has a power source
[22:19] <PL4Y3R> tanath: no not that bad i used to torrent i quit when my pc messed up
[22:19] <pcpower> maco: I said "more secure", not "secure"
[22:19] <cgroza> maco, do a fresh install, leave it running connected to the internet and it is secure, put a user in front of it, its over
[22:19] <tanath> rww, heh, well if you take such comments in the context they were intended in they might be more reasonable...
[22:19] <clooluss> how can I check what groups have what permissions over a particular folder?
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> maco, "no computer is secure if it has a power source" < awesome ;) as well as true.
[22:20] <edbian> clooluss: ls -l /path/to/folder
[22:20] <sudokill> biggest problem is the user. easiest way to secure pc is to unplug from internet bla bla
[22:20] <pcpower> ls
[22:20] <tanath> PL4Y3R, you blame torrenting? rather than your ability to determine what to download/run? :P
[22:20] <maco> cgroza: depends how many zero day exploits you know :) used to be you could pwn a macbook through the ethernet drivers
[22:20] <D3814N> hello, how can I recover files from an ext4 formatted harddisk?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> !undelete
[22:20] <arand> !undelete | D3814N
[22:20] <maco> or was it wireless? meh. network driers
[22:20] <cgroza> maco, what are the chances of that happenning on my PC?
[22:21] <cgroza> maco, and what are the chances of that happenning on windos :P
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> D3814N, apply what is said about ext3 to ext4 as well i'm afraid
[22:21] <maco> cgroza: how common's your hardware and how many people are out to get you?
[22:21] <cgroza> maco, common, 0
[22:21] <zertyu> hello there
[22:21] <PL4Y3R> tanath: that was when i was a computer noob
[22:21] <tanath> mm
[22:21] <clooluss> drwxr-x---
[22:22] <zertyu> during apache installation i got postgresql is that normal ?
[22:22] <D3814N> tnx ZykoticK9
[22:22] <tanath> PL4Y3R, i take issue with the implication that torrenting is bad though
[22:22] <edbian> clooluss: is that a question?
[22:22] <qin> tanath: I really cannot listen to you anylonger? Are you just silly sysadmin, or trying be interesting?
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, do you understand what the drwxr-x--- means?
[22:22] <tanath> PL4Y3R, it's one of the most efficient means of mass distribution
[22:22] <arand> D3814N: I was through that process recently, I got about 2% or less of relevant data out of it, though it was always something.
[22:22] <tanath> qin, what'd i say?
[22:22] <edbian> qin: oh thank god.  I thought I was going crazy
[22:23] <qin> tanath: Whole this tyrade, focus on support.
[22:23] <PL4Y3R> tanath: u gonna let him talk to u like that
[22:23] <edbian> hahahahaha
[22:23] <tanath> qin, what'd i say?
[22:23] <clooluss> edbian - that is the output of the ls command you recommended.
[22:24] <edbian> clooluss: those are linux file permissions   http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[22:24] <D3814N> also tnx arand
[22:24] <edbian> clooluss: read up :)
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, that means the user owner of that directory has full permissions - group owner has read and ENTER and everyone else has no rights!
[22:24] <PL4Y3R> i wish this was like the piratechat but it got shutdown :(
[22:25] <clooluss> ok, so characters 5,6 and 7 represent the group permissions - is that ALL groups or can I narrow it down to certain groups?
[22:25] <edbian> clooluss: it's the group owner listed to the left of that.  It goes that thing, owner, group owner, everybody else when you look at ls -l
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, SUUUGGGOOO - S for special, U for User, G for group, and O for other - everything else
[22:26] <clooluss> So if other users in my group can theoretically read and execute that folder, why do I get an "access denied" error when i log in as one of those users and try to ls the folder? I have checked group memberships.
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, the 5-7 is the group owner - also listed in the ls -l
[22:26] <edbian> clooluss: Is the file owned by that group?
[22:27] <edbian> clooluss: Who and what group owns the folder?
[22:27] <edbian> tanath: Did you find that trojan yet?
[22:27] <clooluss> I guess I own the folder. I created it. i just want the other users to be able to see the files in it.
[22:28] <tanath> edbian, actually, just found some adware which crashed the scanner... even from live disc... O_O
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, could you give the full output of "ls -l"?
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, by default the group will probably you YOUR user as well (both user and group as you)
[22:29] <tanath> edbian, '...encountered a serious error and needs to close..."
[22:29] <clooluss> drwxr-x---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos
[22:29] <clooluss> matt is my username. home is the group I created.
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, oh that's owned by matt and the group is home - but home can't write to that directory
[22:29] <tanath> edbian, perhaps it has a 0day buffer overflow that affects malware scanners?
[22:29] <clooluss> home can't read it either
[22:30] <tanath> edbian, would explain why it seemed to be protecting itself no matter how i scanned it
[22:31] <Gskellig> I need a unity PRO
[22:33] <boson12> Hi everyone!
[22:33] <cgroza> hi
[22:33] <fern> hi
[22:33] <sakuragno> i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i need to fix scanner problem: i've a canon mp160 multifunction. printer works well but xsane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate with it.. some suggestions?
[22:35] <boson12> I am trying to install a package. I am told the following: "the shell commands `./configure; make; make install' should
[22:35] <boson12> configure, build, and install this package." Does this mean that I need to input such commands followed by the package name?
[22:35] <birdmandont> i want to share some files for downloading at a remote location, and have a spare power edge 2650 server.  Whats the best/fastest way to do it, FTP, or like samba or something?
[22:35] <qin> boson12: No, what you intend to install?
[22:35] <cgroza> boson12, no, you cd into the source folder and run those commands
[22:36] <xangua> !compile | boson12
[22:36] <cgroza> boson12, it is rocommended to install it from a deb or repos, so you can uninstall it later easily.
[22:36] <clooluss> i am trying to give other users on my pc access to a folder in my home folder. I have created a group and put boith users in it. I have changed the group permissions to r-x. The other user still gets "access denied" when trying to ls the folder. Can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
[22:36] <tanath> edbian, according to wine crash output it tried to schedule a job
[22:37] <tanath> edbian, damn thing tries to infect anything that scans it
[22:37] <tomaszjk> hello
[22:37] <cgroza> hi
[22:37] <boson12> Thanks everyone, let me try what you've told me.
[22:37] <bencc> how can I use the fact that $HOME/bin is in the user's path?
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, "echo $PATH"
[22:38] <tomaszjk> hi
[22:38] <bencc> I've tried creating a test.sh in $HOME/bin/test.sh but can't run it if I'm not in this folder
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, oh sorry misread - but scripts/bins in that directory
[22:38] <tanath> bencc, that's how it should be
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, is it executable?  "chmod +x test.sh"
[22:38] <tanath> bencc, current working directory isn't in $PATH for security reasons
[22:38] <cgroza> bencc, did you mark it executable?
[22:39] <boson12> ubottu, by "pre-built packages" you mean packages that are already compiled?
[22:39] <tanath> bencc, need to specify path with ./something
[22:39] <bencc> ZykoticK9: it's not there
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> bencc, what's not there?  "chmod ~/bin/test.sh" ?
[22:40] <cgroza> tanath, isn't that for running scripts in current directory?
[22:40] <bencc> that's my path: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[22:40] <tanath> cgroza, or to whatever path you specify
[22:40] <tanath> cgroza, like, ./path/to/app
[22:40] <bencc> ZykoticK9: maybe I need to login again?
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> bencc, if you just created the ~/bin directory - log out / back in and try the "echo $PATH" again
[22:41] <cgroza> bencc, it does not seem that your directory is in the path.
[22:41] <qin> bencc: your test.sh is not in path
[22:41] <bencc> ZykoticK9:  ok
[22:41] <cgroza> tanath, thanks
[22:41] <tanath> np
[22:41] <clooluss> i am trying to give other users on my pc access to a subfolder in my home folder. I have created a group and put both users in it. I have changed the group permissions on the subfolder to r-x. The other user still gets "access denied" when trying to ls the folder. Can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
[22:41] <qin> ZykoticK9: hm, I think he can just export PATH, or source .bashrc
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> qin, true!
[22:42] <petrolman> Hi, I m testing Ubuntu 11.04 for the first time and I checked the opened connections with netstat. Can someone explain to me why there are connection to cannonical.com? e.g. barbadine.canonical:www CLOSE_WAIT  tbarth  23625 1760/gvfsd-http
[22:42] <tanath> clooluss, change ownership on folder to group?
[22:42] <bencc> after login it works
[22:42] <clooluss> tanath: how do I do that?
[22:43] <Pici> petrolman: Are you using Ubuntu One?
[22:43] <bencc> ZykoticK9: cgroza: qin: after login again "test.sh" works
[22:43] <tanath> clooluss, chown user:group
[22:43] <jackbob> hi. I recently installed windows xp on an extra partition. How do I reinstall the ubuntu bootloader? I've done it with the old grub in arch linux but I don't know how to do it with the new one
[22:43] <tanath> clooluss, man chown
[22:43] <jackbob> if it's different at all
[22:43] <MykehDoom> Hey everyone I wanted to ask a question.
[22:43] <xangua> !grub2 | jackbob
[22:44] <jackbob> thanks bot bro
[22:44] <cgroza> bencc, you added your yath in bashlrc?
[22:44] <cgroza> .bashrc**
[22:44] <bencc> cgroza: by default $HOME/bin is included in the path in the .profile file
[22:44] <pcpower> grub2 is default? then why do I have 0.97 in 10.10...
[22:44] <petrolman> Pici, I   m not aware of it, I m just listening to internetradio with the new Banshee
[22:44] <cgroza> bencc, ok, thanks
[22:45] <bencc> cgroza: but after you create the folder you have to logout/login to make it work
[22:45] <bencc> cgroza: probably there is some over way to refresh this info but I don't know it
[22:45] <cgroza> pcpower, that how they call that version, grub2, versions under it are called grub legacy
[22:46] <pcpower> cgroza: "GRUB 2 should display a version number of 1.96 or later. Legacy GRUB is version 0.97."
[22:46] <pcpower> and it says legacy uses menu.lst and not grub.cfg when I have grub.cfg, yet it says 0.97
[22:47] <cgroza> pcpower, you are using grub 2
[22:47] <petrolman> Pici, yes I ve found a process: /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pcpower, did you upgrade?  I believe that gives different grub then a fresh install.
[22:47] <Pici> petrolman: There you go then.
[22:47] <petrolman> Pici, but I havent started it yet, hm
[22:48] <diglife> test
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> diglife, fail
[22:50] <MykehDoom> How do I run a .run file as root?
[22:50] <pcpower> ZykoticK9: nope no upgrade
[22:51] <RA_drc> !stages
[22:52] <cgroza> !grub-legacy
[22:52] <cgroza> !grub2
[22:52] <MykehDoom> How to I run a .run file as the root?
[22:53] <cgroza> 1.97 is Grub 2 because Karmic had it
[22:53] <pstewart> MykehDoom: sh ./file.run  should work
[22:53] <tanath> MykehDoom, if you're sure you want to... "cd /path/to/file; sudo ./file"
[22:53] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Heya...still lurking about?
[22:54] <lahwran> are there any file managers that are at least as powerful as nautilus and crash less than it?
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, not without sudo
[22:54] <MykehDoom> The file is on my desktop it's called like ubuntuchrome.run
[22:54] <lahwran> on the same note, is there a way to keep the gtk open and save dialogs from resorting the files after opening?
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, unless you're suggesting he shouldn't need root
[22:54] <MykehDoom> So I just put sudo ./ubuntuchrome.run and it'll run?
[22:54] <pstewart> tanath: depends whether you are root or not, but yeah :)
[22:54] <Firefishe> lahwran: Thunar may be of interest to you.
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, well he was asking how to run as root, yes?
[22:54] <clooluss> I have read the man chown and I really don't understand what is going. Do i want it owned by a user or a group? What is the difference? What is the significance of the username in the command chown user:group?
[22:54] <MykehDoom> How do I set myself as the root user?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, what is that file?
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, with 'sudo command'
[22:55] <MykehDoom> It's a file to make ubuntu look like google chrome
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, 'sudo ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run'
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, wish i hadn't asked ;)
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, but where'd you get that file?
[22:56] <tanath> oh, nvm
[22:56] <MykehDoom> Oh uhh I can't remeber off the top of my head, but it changes the look to chrome, like the ubuntu logo is the google chrome logo and stuff.
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, FYI - if the file isn't marked as executable some of the suggestions above will fail.
[22:56] <tanath> MykehDoom, in terminal run "chmod +x ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run && sudo ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run"
[22:58] <clooluss> tanath: I have read the man chown and I really don't understand what is going. Do i want my subfolder owned by a user or a group? What is the difference? What is the significance of the username in the command chown user:group?
[22:58] <tanath> clooluss, files/folders are owned by both
[22:58] <Guest78546> help i did a  sudo aptitude full-upgrade it gives me W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 what do i do?
[22:59] <tanath> clooluss, you should be user owner, and you should be in the group taht you give its ownership to
[22:59] <clooluss> tanath; If they are owned by boht... what is the point of changing ownership with the chown command?
[22:59] <tanath> clooluss, the user:group specifies the files user and group ownership
[23:00] <tanath> clooluss, because you can set user and group permissions. as rightful owner you want to be the user owner, but you want to set group permissions so those in said group can do things
[23:00] <tanath> clooluss, then you add users to said group
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> did Guest78546 leave or change nics?
[23:01] <tanath> clooluss, maybe google 'chown' for examples and explanations
[23:01] <djmaster2437> when i did the terminal sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me  ( W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 ) what do i do plz help me
[23:01] <clooluss> tanath: So.... the folder is owned like this:  drwxr-x---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos    and both users are in the group "home" - but if log is as the other user and try to ls the folder, it says "access denied." I don't see where I've gone wrong.
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119287
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, in future use the add-apt-resporitory (or similar) command for adding PPAs and it will look after the key stuff for you
[23:02] <KaTo> Have everyone notice that ubuntu 11.04 is extremely slow and unstable or it is only with my machine????
[23:03] <tanath> clooluss, sorry your grammar is unclear from the word "log" on..
[23:03] <zertyu> hello there
[23:03] <zertyu> what is git ?
[23:03] <tanath> clooluss, "is as"?
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, source code / development software
[23:03] <pvthodson> hey everyone
[23:03] <clooluss> sorry. If I log out of my user and log in as the other user in the group"home" I should be able to access the other folder. But I don't - I try to ls the subfolder but it tells me "access denied"
[23:04] <zertyu> i don't get ZykoticK9
[23:04] <kristof> hello, I have just downloaded a recently large file and accidently closed it without saving. Any chance that it is still retreivable on my computer?
[23:04] <tanath> clooluss, er, try making the user owner group as well
[23:04] <RevSpecies116> zertyu: A code management system developed by Linus Torvald - the creator of linux
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, i "believe" it's Linus' replacement to cvs (if you know what that is)
[23:04] <auk> KaTo, unstable yes a bit but slow not particularly. mostly i notice flash heating up the computer to the absolute max
[23:04] <tanath> clooluss, so, chown groupname:groupname
[23:05] <clooluss> missong perand after home: home
[23:05] <tanath> ?
[23:05] <zertyu> are you talking git clone ? ZykoticK9
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, git clone - will copy from a git repository to your local machine
[23:06] <clooluss> tanath; I tried the command chown home:home and it responded with "missing operand after home:home"
[23:06] <jahernandes> #tokyotosho @ irc.rizon.net
[23:06] <zertyu> is it same as apt and wget ? ZykoticK9
[23:06] <tanath> clooluss, oh, operand. yeah, i didn't specify.. i thought you had a handle on how to use the command. you have to tell it what you want to operate on
[23:07] <RevSpecies116> Problem people, can't update to Pitivi v0.14 [just released]... Dependency problem
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, not even close to either really - it's for getting source code
[23:07] <tanath> clooluss, basically you said 'do this' and it said 'to what'?
[23:07] <RevSpecies116> "/media/3039-3366/DCIM/MOVIES/test.webM"
[23:07] <clooluss> OK, i tried again with the folder path at the end. Now it says "invalid user home:home"
[23:07] <zertyu> ok
[23:08] <tanath> clooluss, worth a shot :P
[23:08] <zertyu> i can't find this package  ? libpng12
[23:08] <RevSpecies116> "pitivi: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.18) but 2.17.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed" is the actual error...
[23:08] <pstewart> clooluss: chown <user>:<group> /path
[23:08] <zertyu> how to install it ?
[23:08] <tanath> pstewart, he got that
[23:08] <pstewart> tanath: obviously not, since he did chown <group>:<group>
[23:09] <tanath> pstewart, at my suggestion. was a hail mary of sorts
[23:09] <clooluss> tanath: Do I need to give the other user / group access to the home folder that my Photos folder lives in?
[23:09] <tanath> clooluss, no
[23:10] <clooluss> This is very frustrating... >:-/
[23:10] <petrolman> :-)
[23:10] <tanath> clooluss, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=350067 see long post
[23:11] <pstewart> clooluss: where is this folder you are trying to share access to... /home/matt/Photos ?
[23:11] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, the info u gave me failed any other?
[23:12] <clooluss> pstewart. That is correct.
[23:12] <pstewart> clooluss: ok, then yes, you will probably need to grant the group 'home' access to /home/matt
[23:12] <tanath> clooluss, you can right-click to change permissions if you don't want write access
[23:13] <tanath> pstewart, shouldn't
[23:13] <tanath> pstewart, doesn't actually. that's a higher up folder
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, did you run http://paste.ubuntu.com/616165/
[23:14] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, yes
[23:14] <clooluss> Would I solve the problem by moving the photos folder somewhere else on the HD? Somewhere higher up in the hierarchy or a different partition?
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, looks like the wine PPA has been updated since you installed, for instructions see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[23:15] <juniper_> I'm trying to setup a bridged connection on a ubuntu machine. It can see the local network fine but will not resolve Internet addresses. It simply says unknown host, can anyone help?
[23:15] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, Thank you
[23:15] <bastidrazor> clooluss: put a symlink in the 2nd users home directory to your photos. give them access tot he photos directory by giving them group rights.
[23:16] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, hey anything new?
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> Problem people, can't update to Pitivi v0.14 [just released]... Dependency problem
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> "pitivi: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.18) but 2.17.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed" is the actual error...
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> How does one now resolve this?
[23:17] <clooluss> bastidrazor - the group rights thing does not seem to work. I created a group, put both users in it, changed permissins on the folder to group+rx and the other user can't see the folder in question.
[23:17] <pstewart> tanath: ahh, righ tyou are.. my bad
[23:17] <pstewart> it's been a long day :P
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, see if you can find a PPA with python-gtk2 >= 2.18
[23:17] <tanath> pstewart, no one's immune to mistakes :P
[23:17] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Yeah, Here's the output from the killswitch:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616149/
[23:18] <bastidrazor> clooluss: the folder itself needs execute also. the files inside do not.
[23:18] <tanath> pstewart, or can be expected to know everything
[23:18] <osmosis> Any pointers to why my dell laptop mic isnt working on natty?  worked on hardy.
[23:18] <bastidrazor> clooluss: i read that as rw.. you made a symlink too?
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, you might be interested to see !latest (although the stability claim is a lie)
[23:18] <Rolauten> Hello ALl - I've got a few problems with desktop management. I run Xfce4 as my desktop manager and (before the update to 11.04) compiz as my window manager. After the update Nautilus attempts to take over the desktop on every login (removed this issue by removing nautilus but I would like a better solution) - and I can not get compiz to manage drawing the windows.
[23:18] <RevSpecies116> ZykoticK9: Looks like it's in the gtk2-dev package
[23:18] <clooluss> OK, I have chmodded it to +x - i will swith users now and try it out. I might be back shortly.
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, there you go!
[23:19] <halvor> hello
[23:19] <pstewart> tanath: haha yep.. i've been working on windows servers all day... i guess i've had parent folder inheritance ingrained in me today
[23:20] <tanath> pstewart, i figure that's not the issue since the permissions of the folder have been directly fiddled with
[23:20] <clooluss> Didn't work :-(
[23:21] <clooluss> drwxrwx---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos
[23:21] <mattk> How can I access my ubuntu install from a liveusb?
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, as the other use, type "groups" and verify that home is listed
[23:22] <halvor> mattk: mount the partition
[23:22] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, switching off/on after boot with 'on' is no problem?
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, you might be able to use "su OTHERUSERNAME" in a terminal to switch to that user (if you are logging in / out)
[23:22] <djmaster2437> mattk, are you using a netbook ?
[23:22] <mattk> halvor: can I install applications to it as well
[23:22] <halvor> mattk: i guess no
[23:22] <clooluss> i ran the groups command from this user, it responded like this:     heather : heather fax cdrom floppy audio video plugdev fuse netdev home
[23:22] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: I haven't tried that, yet.  Let me see (If I drop, I'll reboot, then be right back.)
[23:23] <redstar> i have a problem with unity and supertux
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> mattgriffin, if you chroot (described in !grub2 link) you can install from a livecd/usb
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> mattk ^
[23:23] <djmaster2437> mattk, r u using a netbook?
[23:23] <clooluss> and      matt : matt adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare home     for good measure
[23:23] <mattk> djmaster2437: no. but it's a headless system
[23:23] <mattk> djmaster2437: I installed it using ssh and ubiquity and now I need to install ssh
[23:24] <cache_surplus> i got this odd message from get.adobe.com/flashplayer. when i selected 10.04 download for 64bitflash player, it prompted for updating maverick sources.list then apt-curl tried to load it, then it said - adobe-plugin was virtual?
[23:24] <cache_surplus> flash ver is 10.3.181.14 i tried to load
[23:25] <Sleeparoo> hey guys
[23:25] <djmaster2437> mattk,  try sudo apt-get ssh
[23:25] <halvor> does anybody know a nice gtk app to convert videos to ipod touch 1g format?
[23:25] <Sleeparoo> Trying to install Ubuntu via a mini-cd. Do I have to pick "ubuntu desktop" at the end to install a graphical environment?
[23:25] <redstar> whenever i start supertux it shows the untity screen at a smaller resolusion and then when it quit, unity freezes
[23:25] <multipass> when i do dual monitors, when i have firefox opened up and say.. click on some links or open up a page, sometimes the page appears completly black. and it refreshes once i move the window.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:25] <edbian> Sleeparoo: no
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> halvor, you might want to check out Handbrake (it's not in the default repository however), there is a PPA
[23:26] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Back.  The switch seems to work just fine after rebooting with it ON.
[23:26] <mattk> djmaster2437: I can ssh into the liveusb. That's what I am on right now
[23:26] <halvor> ZykoticK9: tried that...i can't install handbrake
[23:26] <Sleeparoo> edbian, ok, thanks
[23:26] <halvor> ZykoticK9: at least not from the ppas i've found so far
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> halvor, sorry i don't have any other suggestions.  Good luck.
[23:27] <petrolman> I accidently pressed the windows + d key of my keyboard, the Unity desktop went crazy.
[23:27] <tanath> Sleeparoo, you can use ubuntu-minimal
[23:27] <juniper_> how do I delete a gateway route for a interface ?
[23:27] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I think that's what I'm doing.
[23:28] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, strange.. As i too have a intel chip (6300) and a killswitch i will reboot and check that. brb
[23:28] <halvor> ZykoticK9: maybe it's a bit shameful but i'll try to use the win version of handbrake under wine :)
[23:28] <djmaster2437> mattk, can u get into terminal?
[23:28] <RevSpecies116> Bummer, dependency hell incoming... python-gth2-dev can't be installed due to:
[23:28] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: k..thanks
[23:28] <RevSpecies116> Depends: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.8) but it is not going to be installed; Depends: libgtk2.0-dev (>= 2.13.6) but it is not going to be installed; Depends: python-gobject-dev (>= 2.15.3) but it is not going to be installed
[23:28] <tanath> juniper_, man route?
[23:28] <Sleeparoo> tanath, doesn't that come by default?
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> Then, further hell: libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.24.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.25.14-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> I'm not going to try the others... Solutions people?
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, don't use the latest version?
[23:29] <tanath> Sleeparoo, i'm not familiar with this mini-disc install, but it's in the repos, yes. you can install ubuntu-minimal if you want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> ZykoticK9: That is certainly one solution :)
[23:29] <redstar> can anyone help me? I need supertux
[23:30] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I'm installing the mini-disc, BUT I only want to have the graphical scheme, i.e. no OpenOffice, no Evolution, etc
[23:30] <mattk> The computer is on. I have the liveusb in it and I have a terminal
[23:30] <tanath> Sleeparoo, then you want minimal
[23:30] <tanath> Sleeparoo, -desktop depends on evolution i think
[23:30] <RevSpecies116> Is supertux a Cereal, redstar ?
[23:30] <tanath> lol
[23:30] <redstar> no the game
[23:30] <edbian> tanath: Sleeparoo ubuntu-desktop will install gnome which definitely has evolution.
[23:31] <edbian> Sleeparoo: What gui do you want?  Gnome requires evolution IIRC
[23:31] <pvthodson> need help with x11 forwarding on ubuntu 11.04
[23:31] <RevSpecies116> Oh, did I just loose it... The game, that is?
[23:31] <redstar> i hav a problem w/ the game freezing
[23:31] <Sleeparoo> edbian, I just want some gui that has the least possible things, and then I want to install new stuff from there
[23:31] <tanath> edbian, gnome doesn't require evolution, i think. i use gnome, yet typically uninstall evolution
[23:31] <edbian> pvthodson: what specifically about it?
[23:31] <Juest> hi
[23:31] <mattk> djmaster2437: how do I mount the / partition?
[23:31] <redstar> and it freezes unity too
[23:31] <juniper_> tanath I'm RTFM right now. I was just hoping for a quick answer. Thanks though ^^
[23:31] <tanath> Sleeparoo, ubuntu-minimal is what you're looking for
[23:31] <edbian> Sleeparoo: I would go with lxde or xfce  There are MANY GUIs to choose from.
[23:32] <pvthodson> I can get applications but not a fully desktop
[23:32] <cache_surplus> i got this odd message from get.adobe.com/flashplayer. when i selected 10.04 download for 64bitflash player, it prompted for updating maverick sources.list then apt-curl tried to load it, then it said - adobe-plugin was virtual? what can i do now?
[23:32] <tanath> juniper_, mm. i don't recall off top of my head, so i'd be doing that to help you :P
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> tanath, remove evolution will remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage... can cause issues, especially if trying to update.
[23:32] <Sleeparoo> tanath, ok, I'll see if I have that option
[23:32] <tanath> ZykoticK9, taht's what ubuntu-minimal is for
[23:32] <djmaster2437> mattk, what session r u runing?
[23:32] <edbian> pvthodson: That's what x forwarding is.  You can come close to a full desktop if you run nautilus and gnome-panel
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> tanath, well not really - but i see your point
[23:32] <tanath> Sleeparoo, dunno if you can get that option during install, but can make changes after
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, oh?
[23:33] <pvthodson> I was told you can get an entire gnome-session
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, if it's buggy without ubuntu-desktop, that'd be bugs, yes?
[23:33] <BrainVirus> Does anybody know anything about sarg and how to install it? Namely, I am having issues getting the webinterface working for it i.e. viewing reports
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, -minimal is there for a reason
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> tanath, not for Ubuntu.
[23:33] <auk> are there any possible problems with using a fedora live cd to gparted change the size of ubuntu / and /home partitions?
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> tanath, minimal is debian without Ubuntu stuff, why not just install Debian?
[23:34] <tanath> auk, shouldn't be. partitions are partitions
[23:34] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I'll see twhat I have...
[23:34] <auk> ...besides the standard "always back up before resizing a partition with data"
[23:34] <lnb> anyone know why screen becomes inverted and upside down when 'classic' is chosen in login menu?
[23:34] <tanath> ZykoticK9, is it? hunh...
[23:34] <sakuragno>  i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i've a multifuction  canon mp160 and printer works well  but i've some problem with scanner... xane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate.. some suggestion
[23:34] <tanath> ZykoticK9, i like ubuntu, i just don't want some of the apps -desktop depends on. like bluetooth stuff. my comp doesn't even support it
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> tanath, oh i hear that!
[23:35] <stefjord80> prova
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <mattk> djmaster2437: session? sorry
[23:35] <FloodBot1> stefjord80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <stefjord80> sorry
[23:36] <auk> tanath: ok thank you and... question about workings of gparted, when, say, making a / partiton smaller by 3 gigs, and sliding a /home partition over to use those 3 gigs, will data for the home partition actually be moved? the partition with remain more than large enough in both directions for the data on it
[23:36] <Juest> hi i use 11.04(upgraded from 10.10) and sound dosen't work. i also have troubles with applications, these troubles aren't related to sound but with hicolor-icon-theme ideas?
[23:36] <sakuragno>  i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i've a multifuction  canon mp160 and printer works well  but i've some problem with scanner... xane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate.. some suggestion
[23:36] <halvor> pff##&&!! it's insane
[23:36] <halvor> hipo won't start
[23:36] <halvor> and the error message i get is only
[23:36] <tanath> auk, in that case, yes it should be
[23:36] <tanath> auk, will take a while
[23:36] <eipi-1> Firefishe, back. no problem to connect...
[23:36] <RevSpecies116> Juest: Ubuntu, and not another varient?
[23:36] <Juest> yes, main ubuntu desktop
[23:37] <djmaster2437> mattk, xfce, gnome, ect.
[23:37] <pvthodson> does anyone know how to start a remote gnome-session through x11 forwarding?
[23:37] <tanath> auk, if you move the partition, or expand it to the left, it moves the data in my experience
[23:37] <auk> tanath, the whole contents of the /home partition will be shifted 3 gigs over?
[23:37] <halvor> .gtkrc-2.0:4: the picture can not be found on pixmap_path: „/home/xxx/Nyilvános/panel-bg-and.png
[23:37] <tanath> auk, yup
[23:37] <edbian> pvthodson: ssh in and run nautilus then run gnome-panel   I already told you this
[23:37] <tanath> auk, hopefully you only need to do it once.... try to get it right :P
[23:37] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I've played around with the switch before.  It seems to just bring up the interface for a split second, but it drops it.
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> pvthodson, use VNC/NX for full desktop remote access - SSH + X forwarding works great, for individual applications
[23:37] <jagas> does anybody have some issues with wobbly windows, they lag and are pixelated
[23:37] <mattk> djmaster2437: I have ubuntu 10.04 install on virtualbox and that's how I ssh into the liveusb. My monitor doesn't work on my laptop so I'm trying to connect via my desktop
[23:38] <pvthodson> ok thanks guys
[23:38] <lnb> anyone know why screen becomes inverted and upside down when 'classic' is chosen in login menu?
[23:38] <Firefishe> eipi-1: It's like something is trying but it's not latching onto something.
[23:38] <RevSpecies116> OKies, steo one: On the Ubuntu Classic desktop, goto System->Preferences->Sound and check your soundcard is on the Hardware Tab
[23:38] <Sleeparoo> no ubuntu-minimal, I decided to go for the manual package selection
[23:38] <eipi-1> Firefishe, in your pastebin you had some "device state change: 3 -> 2 (reason 0)" where i get "device state change: 3 -> 4 (reason 42)"
[23:38] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I don't know if it's kernel issues or what.
[23:38] <auk> tanath: aww all 117 gigs :(... and the potential for data corruption in all that moving
[23:38] <tanath> auk, never had a prob with corruption or anything. should only be a prob if there's a power failure or something
[23:38] <eipi-1> Firefishe, what version are you running? kernel and ubuntu
[23:38] <tanath> auk, even then, could very well be recoverable
[23:39] <auk> tanath: well basically i overestimated the space i needed for / at install time, i guess i'll just leave it with some extra space
[23:39] <Juest> ummmm
[23:39] <tanath> auk, how much?
[23:39] <Juest> ......
[23:39] <tanath> auk, i gave mine like 18gb and ended up needing 2 more
[23:39] <pvthodson> vnc is to laggy for me to use are there any other alternatives
[23:39] <iceroot> pvthodson: nx
[23:39] <redstar> does anyone else hav unity freeze if u star supertux
[23:39] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Lucid 10.04 LTS and 2.6.32-32-generic
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> 18g for / ?
[23:40] <pvthodson> is that freenx
[23:40] <tanath> MonkeyDust, yeah, lots of games :P
[23:40] <RevSpecies116> Juest - do you have a System menu on your top panel?
[23:40] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:40] <iceroot> pvthodson: freenx is the gnu-version
[23:40] <tanath> MonkeyDust, alien area and all that take up a fair bit of space
[23:40] <Juest> whatever, i can't even start gnome-session
[23:40]  * MonkeyDust has no games and 6g for /
[23:40] <auk> tanath, well i gave it 14 gb cause in the past i gave it 10 and needed more, but i'm only using 6 currently :P
[23:40] <homiziado> I broke my ubuntu installation, making it unbootable, but I managed to mount the disk on a mac, is there any log of all the programs I installed with apt-get to use in a new installation?
[23:40] <Juest> because of hicolor-icon-theme trouble
[23:41] <tanath> auk, mm. future-proofing is good though. don't wanna have to adjust it again :P
[23:41] <Juest> the worst problem is gnome-panel
[23:41] <djmaster2437> mattk, do u have an Ethernet port on the laptop?
[23:41] <iceroot> !clone | homiziado
[23:41] <RevSpecies116> Juest, I'm sorry I don't understand - you are having more problems than just a soundcard issue?
[23:41] <Juest> yes
[23:41] <iceroot> homiziado: use chroot first to get into the system
[23:41] <Juest> two problems
[23:41] <pvthodson> can nx be installed through apt-get?
[23:41] <auk> ...i suppose in the future i could stick another partition in there
[23:41] <auk> (tanath)
[23:41] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:41] <pvthodson> thx
[23:41] <eipi-1> Firefishe, what do you mean by interface trying to start and then dropping?
[23:41] <auk> tanath: well i'm trying to make space for a fedora / partition to have a dual -boot
[23:42] <tanath> auk, for /? how would that work? you'd have to install stuff manually to alternate location
[23:42] <Juest> RevSpecies116: may i query you (PM)?
[23:42] <homiziado> thanks a lot iceroot :) I will try it
[23:42] <tanath> auk, mm
[23:42] <RevSpecies116> And all you did, Juest, to cause the hi-icon issue was update from 10.10 to 11.04?
[23:42] <tanath> auk, you could always use virtual machine instead...
[23:42] <Juest> no
[23:42] <pvthodson> is there seperate client and sever packages
[23:42] <nemo> Hey guys, I ran into a ubuntu forum article that fixed suspend/hibernate on my Sony VPC-F11 - is there an ubuntu wiki page where I can check to see if this problem is reported?
[23:42] <RevSpecies116> You can PM me, Juest :)
[23:42] <Juest> just already have that trouble
[23:42] <eipi-1> Firefishe, it may also be a networkmanager problem. you may try wicd instead. it's got more detailed log as well (from what i heard)
[23:42] <nemo> (basically just had to add acpi_sleep=nonvs to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX)
[23:43] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:43] <auk> tanath, i mean since i'm only using 6 gb, and it's 14gb, i could use the remaining 8 gb as a separate partition
[23:43] <nemo> would like to make sure it gets picked up for future releases
[23:43] <nemo> for the benefit of other users
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1: By watching the nm-applet icon in the systray (kde/gnome/xfce, etc.)  -  I'll slide it off, then back on, and watch the indicator animation start up like it's trying to connect, then drop back to the inactive icon.
[23:43] <tanath> auk, i'd leave yourself 2gb to spare though
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1:
[23:43] <pvthodson> is remmina a good alternative?
[23:43] <auk> tanath, ...ermm...actually, i'm considering switching from ubuntu to fedora for general use
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Also, by watching the active terminal window using that tail command you gave me.
[23:44] <auk> tanath: as for extra 2 gb, yes of course
[23:44] <tanath> auk, all the more reason to try in vm, if you're just testing...
[23:44] <tanath> auk, and if you like it, since you have /home on separate, you could reinstall over top of ubuntu
[23:44] <auk> tanath, can trying in vm get it to use all my existing data? (app settings and histories)
[23:45] <nemo> could probably reinstall over ubuntu anyway, so long as you don't reformat :)
[23:45] <tanath> auk, actually, that should be doable... as you know you can mount a separate folder/partition as /home. and you can give vm access to outside folders...
[23:45] <valleydaddy78> t does it mean when you get this message ?
[23:45] <eipi-1> Firefishe, well could you install wicd network manager, reboot killswitch off and try to connect using wicd? from what i read so far it may be nm causing trouble
[23:45] <stefjord80> http://xdccing.com/
[23:46] <auk> yeah i'm a bit reluctant to install over ubuntu considering /home is encrypted, and i've never done anything more than play around with other distros
[23:46] <Firefishe> eipi-1: what is wicd?
[23:46] <tanath> auk, oh, be careful with that. google a guide before doing it
[23:46] <auk> (other than ubuntu)
[23:46] <Gomaaz> how can I post into pastebin from shell again?
[23:46] <valleydaddy78> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[23:46] <bindi> !pastebin
[23:46] <Gomaaz> !pastebin
[23:46] <bindi> !pastebinit | Gomaaz
[23:47] <Gomaaz> thx man
[23:47] <auk> tanath: yeah i've done abit of that... some of them are uber-complicated and other say that it should be pretty much 100 percent automated :/
[23:47] <tanath> auk, i've seen a good guide or two, but dunno if i'd find 'em again. i think i found a good one from linuxtoday
[23:47] <valleydaddy78> pastebin
[23:48] <auk> tanath thanks i'll look there
[23:48] <tanath> auk, they blog news and stuff. would have been a link they did some time over the past month or two
[23:48] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I just looked it up.  It's a replacement for nm
[23:48] <eipi-1> Firefishe, just another network manager. does the same as preinstalled network manager, but you can create profiles to use with wpa_supplicant directly so we can check if preinstalled network manager is the problem or its some driver problem
[23:49] <Firefishe> eipi-1: let me install it
[23:49] <stefjord80> !list
[23:49] <auk> this is the page that gave me the most hope for automatic resolution http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1376522
[23:49] <eipi-1> Firefishe, right :) it should be in the repos. btw do you have the same problem connecting to encrypted and open wifi?
[23:50] <auk> tanath, of course...do fedora and ubuntu even use the same backends for partition encryption by default?
[23:50] <stefjord80> xdcc list
[23:50] <tanath> auk, i don't know enough about partition encryption to be of much help with that
[23:50] <Firefishe> eipi-1:  Relative to the switch problem, no.  WPA isn't an issue.
[23:51] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I just apt-getted it.  It's installed.  What now?
[23:51] <tanath> auk, that's not really a guide, just someone hoping they can do what you want :P
[23:52] <eipi-1> Firefishe, i mean, when booting with KS off, did you try to connect to open wifi?
[23:52] <Sleeparoo> What's Plymouth?
[23:52] <auk> tanath, yeah :)
[23:52] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Oh yes, it doesn't matter.
[23:52] <eipi-1> Firefishe, is there a way for you to get online on some other device, so you dont have to reboot everytime?
[23:52] <tanath> auk, might also google for people troubleshooting problems so you know what to avoid
[23:53] <DevilSolution> where do i find my newly created ssh key?
[23:53] <Firefishe> eipi-1: The only other gadget I have with me is my Nokia E71.  It has an IRC client--mirggi--but's it's buggy.
[23:53] <mattk> djmaster2437: yeah
[23:54] <p01s0n> i need help with installing ubuntu 11.04 :( have been trying for a long time
[23:54] <auk> also, to whoever it was that told me a couple days ago that changing the uid from 1000 to 500 wouldn't have any consequences for well-written applications... let it be know that debian-derived gdm login screens are badly written () and that if you don't change the permissions on your home directory, you won't be able to access your files
[23:54] <tanath> auk, lol
[23:55] <tanath> auk, well that's a given... you have to take your home folder with you
[23:55] <p01s0n> i have written my problem in ubuntuforums and till now no reply
[23:55] <p01s0n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773159
[23:55] <tanath> auk, and there isn't a good reason for apps to expect you to change your uid
[23:55] <p01s0n> tht is the link..can some1 read and suggest some ways to fix this
[23:55] <tanath> auk, but an app that changes your uid ought to handle that.. unless you did it manually ;)
[23:56] <RevSpecies116> Folks, quick question to clarify - where can I find out the system requirements for 11.04 Ubuntu? Is there a webpage setup for that?
[23:56] <auk> tanath, i did do it manually...well, usermod -u
[23:56] <eipi-1> Firefishe, reboot, start 'tail -f ...' try 'sudo killall nm-applet' to turn off old nm. then start wicd and try to connect with that one. start wicd from console so you can see logs. if it doesn't show any, try with -d command. lets see..
[23:56] <tanath> RevSpecies116, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-req.html
[23:57] <tanath> RevSpecies116, few seconds on google
[23:57] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: This is me on my phone, it's slow typing with my thumbs.
[23:57] <p01s0n> some help please
[23:57] <tanath> RevSpecies116, 'system reqs 11.04'
[23:57] <auk> tanath, i bit of complication if your hd is encrypted is you can't change the permissions on your files with root privileges :/ (without going through a quite complicated process of mounting the encrypted volume without logging in form the corresponding account)
[23:57] <lullabud> question, is there a way to reboot the livecd without requiring the user to press enter to actually do the reboot?
[23:58] <Firefishe> eipi-1: So what do you suggest at this point?  wicd is installed.  Is a reboot required?  I also have kde set to not use it's native network manager, and have nm-applet set to boot up.  I'll have to unset that.
[23:58] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, all right ill try to ask as many yes/no questions as possible ;)
[23:58] <shomon> hi, I've installed lubuntu, is there a way to make it into ubuntu?
[23:58] <tanath> lullabud, there's a 60s timeout...
[23:58] <lullabud> i have a long process running on a livecd and i don't want to have to come back when it's done to press enter.
[23:58] <lullabud> tanath: oh, nice, thanks!
[23:58] <tanath> lullabud, or you could press reset button if you have it, or hold power
[23:58] <Firefishe> eipi-1: You can talk to my normal user here.  The phone is right by me, so I can access it if necessary.
[23:58] <lullabud> tanath: nah, i just want to do longps && shutdown -r
[23:59] <p01s0n> i tried installing ubuntu but everyime after the splash screen it hangs and shows this wierd screen http://www.stooorage.com/show/883/2984745_img0050a.jpg
[23:59] <lullabud> gracias
[23:59] <eipi-1> Firefishe, did you read my prev message?
[23:59] <captainjamie> shomon, I think you can simply install ubuntu with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...
 Firefishe, reboot, start 'tail -f ...' try 'sudo killall nm-applet' to turn off old nm. then start wicd and try to connect with that one. start wicd from console so you can see logs. if it doesn't show any, try with -d command. lets see..
[23:59] <valleydaddy78> has anyone encontered a problem with the merge lists when trying to update
[23:59] <shomon> thanks - I hope so