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claydohWow kmail2 rc sure seems quite nice actually (so far) - many thank to the neon folks for making it safe to test00:10
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macocharlie-tca: around?03:37
charlie-tcayup03:37
macoJontheEchidna: ping03:38
JontheEchidnapong03:38
macoi was going to ask how to test it after applying patch03:40
macosince there's no try/install option once you get to a point where you can test03:40
JontheEchidnaI think the crash occurs while starting ubiquity from the desktop too03:44
charlie-tcaKubuntu 64 alternate OEM install, does not shutdown after running "prepare for shipping to end user"03:44
charlie-tcaThe OEM install did work, I shut down with the power button. 03:47
charlie-tcaMInor inconvenience at best03:47
charlie-tcamaco: don't hate me... 03:50
macothat doesnt need to be alpha 103:50
charlie-tcaOEM install, user configuration fails with the same error as the live cd install03:50
charlie-tcaThank you!03:50
macothe keyboard thing.... slangasek and i are both stuck03:50
macoit looks like a xkb-data change (he says) that is breaking backend stuff03:51
charlie-tcaThen the mandatory tests are done for the alternate cd's03:51
charlie-tcaI have to stop for the night, my eyes are blurred03:51
LaserJockScottK: so I tried to build Debian's kdemultimedia but in my oneiric pbuilder it has some sort of odd dependency problem. I thinks it needs libasound2-dev but it doesn't install it04:34
LaserJockshould I give up on trying to get the Debian version building and just start doing the actual merge?04:34
ScottKLaserJock: Seems reasonable.  That does seem like an odd problem.04:55
LaserJockScottK: yeah, I've not seen that before05:02
LaserJocknormally it's a dep that fails to install, in this case it didn't think it needed to install it in the beginning of the run and then later failed because it wasn't installed05:03
ScottKYou might try switching to a different pbuilder depenency resolver.05:04
ScottKIIRC you can do this in /etc/pbuilderrc05:05
LaserJockoh05:06
LaserJockok, I'll look at that05:06
LaserJockso does kdemultimedia have to be done by tomorrow?05:06
ScottKHave to, no.05:08
ScottKWe can't upload until after the Alpha 1 release so there's no need to worry about tonight at all.05:09
LaserJockoh, ok05:10
LaserJockI just didn't want to be blocking anything05:10
ScottKThe only kdemultimedia rdepend in Main is amarok which I don't think needs to be uploaded soon.05:12
micahgScottK: there's k3b also05:30
ScottKAh.  Forgot about that one.05:30
JontheEchidnaas long as things are installable we're ok for now05:38
ScottKYep.05:38
ScottKIt's just as well I'm not an IRC op.  I'd get in way to much trouble for kicking people.05:48
ScottKDude: I need help with foo.05:49
* ScottK : This isn't a support channel for foo.05:49
ScottKDude: I know, but I thought ...05:49
ScottKKick.05:49
ScottKReason: "Dude: I know your mom told you that you are special.  You aren't.  The rules apply to you to."05:50
LaserJockDude: I need help with merging05:52
LaserJockwhat do you do with the VCS data in debian/control? replace the debian git stuff with kubuntu's bzr?05:53
ScottKYes.05:58
macoyou used to let me ask support questions here because you figured you could rope me into fixing stuff once i started hitting things that were bugs-not-user-error06:05
ScottKI'm generally more flexible with people who are involved in the project.06:06
ScottKI'm also much less tolerant of #ubuntu questions in #ubuntu-server 'because no one in #ubuntu could answer it'.06:07
ScottKHeck I ask support questions in development channels sometimes, so I'd be hypocritical not to.06:07
LaserJockScottK: am I meant to put my name on the merges.ubuntu.com for kdemultimedia?06:07
ScottKLaserJock: Yes.  Please.06:08
LaserJockI just realized it was editable :-)06:08
LaserJockbeing old and rusty sucks06:09
ScottKSomeone had to point it out to me too.06:10
macoditto06:10
macodoes it still look like solid bg with no text field?06:11
LaserJockyes06:13
LaserJockand on my netbook I had to scroll over to even see that there was a column there06:13
macothis VM is like the Little Engine That Could06:16
ScottKI hope that's good.06:16
macoim waiting for it to try to load the kbd page so i can see if i get stacktraces for non-france things06:16
macoScottK: super slowly chugging along06:17
macoScottK: it fails on u'USA' too06:17
macoyou dont even get to *choosing* a layout06:17
ScottKLovely.06:17
macoit does teh "try to guess a layout based on lang and timezone" thing and crashes06:17
ScottKAny backtrace?06:17
macobecause the xkb names are all changed around06:18
macosame as jibel's was, but with u'USA' instead of u'France'06:18
ScottKCan you disable the guessing for Kubuntu?06:18
macothere's a thought06:18
ScottKHacks 'R Us.06:18
macowell wait06:18
macothen itd just fail when they *do* make kbd selection06:18
macoi think06:19
ScottKAre your sure?06:19
macoit's set_keyboard() thats failing06:19
ScottKI'd whack it out with a hatchet and see.06:19
ScottKIs the call the same for the guess and for the picking?06:19
macocalculate_result() makes a call to set_keyboard() which fails06:20
ScottKAnd this is a different design that is used in Ubuntu?06:22
ScottKCan you make ours work like Ubuntu's?06:22
macoargh. i hate new ubiquity. it starts installing BEFORE i finish making choices06:22
maconow i have to wait for the stupid thing to finish installing then convince virtualbox to boot from a cd again before i can go back through ubiquity06:23
macooh wait except it's crashed!06:23
macoha i dont have to wait for it to finish06:23
ScottKHooray06:23
ScottKOK.  I'm officially too tired.  Good luck.  Please ping slangasek for sponsorship if you get it sorted.06:38
macook06:40
macoScottK: if i comment the ones that use the deb.get(question) then it just fails elsewhere in kde_components/Keyboard.py07:17
yofelmorning08:41
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pnh_hello everyone. I was trying to setup kde development environment in my new kubuntu 11.04 machine. I did compile everything in fedora successfully but here i'm getting some problem with kde-runtime.Please someone help regarding this problem. 09:09
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yofelkde-runtime builds fine in project neon, so what's the problem? (and don't use away nicks please)09:12
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pnh_yofel:This is my problem:  http://paste.kde.org/77305/09:15
yofelyou obviously didn't point it to your new build of kdelibs09:16
pnh_but I have latest version of kdelibs !!!09:16
padamsmoin moin09:18
pnh_soprano is also giving some error : http://paste.kde.org/77317/09:18
yofelpnh_: built maybe, but your CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH doesn't point to it09:18
yofelpnh_: soprano needs libx11-dev installed09:19
yofelpnh_: did you follow http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Environment#Sample_.build-config_file ?09:19
yofelpnh_: did you follow http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Environment09:20
pnh_sudo apt-get install  libx11-dev says libx11-dev is already the newest version. Yeah I did follow all steps in techbase09:20
pnh_I could able to build kdelibs without any problem09:21
yofelodd, that should be a missing libx11-dev, and did you install kdelibs?09:22
pnh_libx11-dev is already installed . yeah. I did install kdelibs without any problem !09:22
pnh_I compiled attica,strigi phonon etc without any problem09:24
yofelwhat does 'echo $CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH' say?09:24
pnh_pnh@my-kde:~/kde/src/strigi$ echo $CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH09:24
pnh_/home/pnh/kde/inst/master:/home/pnh/kde/inst/master:09:24
yofelthen I'm out of ideas, either wait fos someone else or ask in #kde-devel09:25
pnh_okay.I'll try at kde-devel. Thanks btw :)09:25
Riddellneon dudes: how do recipies build for multiple distro releases?09:34
Riddelle.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/kdeadmin uses  lp:~neon/project-neon/kdeadmin-ubuntu which has a debain/changelog for maverick09:34
Riddellbut it builds on natty too09:34
Riddelldoes the daily build just add its own changelog entry?09:34
yofelRiddell: it adds it's own changelog entry and then completely ignores it10:24
yofelthe package version is defined on the recipe page, not the changelog, and you sometimes see maverick entries that build for natty and so on10:24
yofelcorrection: it adds it's own changelog entry with the proper package version ignoring what you defined in the branch10:26
yofelRiddell: the recipes essentially just run bzr dailydeb on the recipe text with a default set of parameters10:30
debfxdidrocks: how did the patchless qt build go?10:48
didrocksdebfx: I built it yesterday, but I'm on another thing, so didn't install yet. Will get to it today and keep you posted10:52
didrocksif it works, then, a dicho will be need to find the guilty patch10:53
debfxok, finding a faulty patch in qt sounds like fun ;)10:58
yofelRiddell: btw. I don't want to be annoying, but it would be nice if *something* could be done about bzr's memory usage. It makes it somewhat hard to work like this :/ https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon-kde-workspace10:58
didrocksdebfx: not sure we have the same definitino of "fun" :-)11:04
didrocksdefinition*11:04
debfxdidrocks: disabling kubuntu_17_enable_qtwebkit_for_qtassistant.diff should cut a good part of the build time11:09
debfxand I'm 90% sure that the package build still works :)11:10
didrocksdebfx: thanks for the tip! webkit is the major part of the qt build and we build it for kubuntu (but debian doesn't)?11:14
debfxdidrocks: the qtwebkit lib that is actually used is build from the qtwebkit-source (Debian calls it qtwebkit) source package11:16
debfxdidrocks: we only build qtwebkit in qt4-x11 because qt assistant needs to link against it but we don't want to introduce a qt4-x11 <-> qtwebkit-source build-dependency loop11:18
didrocksdebfx: ok, but qtassistant needs it for its internal browser support I guess, hence the build in qt itself?11:18
didrocksdebfx: ok, make sense :)11:18
didrocksthanks for the explanation11:19
debfxDebian doesn't build webkit in qt so their assistant is basically broken11:19
didrocksyeah, I can barely imagine qt assistant without webkit11:19
Riddellyofel: yes, I'll bring it up with the team11:24
didrocksdebfx: still segfaulting with all debian cherry picks removed11:24
debfxdidrocks: uh, I don't see what else from the merge could cause that11:38
debfxdidrocks: on a maybe unrelated note: upstream says kubuntu_92_qml_memory_leak.diff is a dangerous patch11:39
didrocksdebfx: I tried 10 minutes to disable it. Now, hammering the laptop again :-)11:40
didrockshoping that it will be better with webkit disabled11:40
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Quintasan\o14:09
didrocksdebfx: still segfaulting without it15:04
didrocksdebfx: we didn't have .3 before the merge right? but for you, the changes in .3 are minimal, right?15:04
ScottKQuintasan and yofel: I hyped Project Neon in the Alpha 1 release notes.15:20
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ScottKrandalogger: How's the snow?15:30
randaloggerno snow no more15:30
randaloggerI think it all was one big scam15:31
yofel\o/15:31
shadeslayerhey all16:00
shadeslayerrandalogger: but it was all white on planetkde16:00
shadeslayerno signs of blue :(16:01
shadeslayeryofel: kdeedu is in bzr right?16:01
yofelhuh? you were doing kdeedu16:08
yofelif you mean our 4.6.3 then yes, that's in bzr16:08
macoScottK, JontheEchidna, charlie-tca: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/791883 bug filed16:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 791883 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubi-console-setup.py:set_keyboard() gets error 141 (crashes) in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New]16:12
ScottKmaco: Thanks.16:17
shadeslayeryofel: right, and i don't need to merge it now right?16:23
yofelwell, if you don't we don't have kdeedu in oneiriic16:24
yofel*oneiric16:24
charlie-tcamaco: thanks16:24
ScottKmaco: I targeted them to oneiric so they'll show up on the release team hot list.16:25
macoi wouldve thought the oneiric-alpha-2 milestone would make them show "hotter" since thats sooner16:25
ScottKIt has to be both "also affects distribution" oneiric and high/critical to hit the release team "we're going to track this" threshold.16:30
shadeslayeryofel: okay working on it16:30
ScottKThe milestone on Alpha 2 then puts it on the "We'll track this for Alpha 2" list.16:30
macoScottK: is the release team's Wall of Eek publicly viewable?16:44
ScottKThere's a LP query you can use to get it.16:44
ScottKI don't recall what it is.16:44
ScottKLoosly it's High/Critical and nominated for the development release.16:45
ScottKThen for each milestone limit to bugs milestoned for event.16:45
macooh. so its just a saved link to a search. ok16:46
macoum16:46
macoadvanced search doesnt appear to have an option for what distribution its targeted against16:47
yofelyou go to ubuntu/<release>/ and then search there16:47
maco! put ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs16:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about put ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs16:47
macoerm i tried to type "oh!" but i guess not16:47
macolp: easier to use by memorising url patterns than my using the UI16:48
charlie-tcahm, I got this for all bugs in Oneiric so far - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?assignee_option=any&field.affects_me.used=&field.assignee=&field.bug_commenter=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_branches=on16:48
charlie-tca&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.searchtext=&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.subscriber=&field.t16:48
charlie-tcaag=oneiric&field.tags_combinator=ANY&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&start=016:48
charlie-tcafail16:48
macoso, hihgh/critical for oneiric shows 223 bugs16:48
yofelmost funny is the UI for the neon team, for some missing we're missing some of the UI buttons (like delete package in the PPA) so we *need* to know the URLs to get anywhere16:49
macoi suspect that could be stripped down to just the necessary bits16:49
macohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH16:52
macohm can even remove "field.searchtext=&"16:53
macohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?orderby=-importance&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&field.importance%3Alist=HIGH&field.milestone%3Alist=39141 and here's alpha 216:55
macomostly ftbfs16:55
shadeslayermaco: ftbfs of packages?16:55
shadeslayerwait ... that came out all wrong16:56
shadeslayerFTBFS of kde packages?16:56
macono16:57
shadeslayerah okay16:57
macothere are 167 bugs targeted to alpha 2 for all of ubuntu. i think 164 are ftbfs16:57
ScottKWe had a long discussion yesterday about how pointless the FTBFS bugs are.17:05
shadeslayerScottK: whats this i hear about Austria being the new australia?17:09
ScottKshadeslayer: They are pretty much the same thing.  Only two letters differently.17:10
yofelwth does austria have in common with australia o.O?17:10
ScottKWell, neither of them are where jussi lives.17:11
yofel^^17:12
debfxdidrocks: we didn't have .3 before the merge17:33
didrocksdebfx: so maybe the regression come from there (I'm rebuilding with more patches removed)17:34
debfxdidrocks: I've just rebuilt qt from natty in oneiric and unity-2d-places still crashes17:34
ScottKENOTOURFAULT17:35
debfxdidrocks: so it's definitely caused by changes in the toolchain17:35
didrocksdebfx: oh? weird, because last week, it was working pretty well17:35
didrocksI don't think the toolchain changed since17:36
ScottKdidrocks: Qt hadn't been built on the oneiric toolchain last week.17:36
didrocksoh right, seeing that it was just a copy from natty17:36
didrocksok then, more fun to debug :-)17:36
didrocksI'll try to focus on that next week, no worry (tomorrow is off for me, and I try to finish some tasks on oneconf today)17:36
didrocksdebfx: thanks for trying the rebuilld :)17:37
didrocksrebuild*17:37
debfxso my initial guess of blaming gcc 4.6 wasn't that wrong after all ;)17:38
didrocksyeah :-) I would have prefer a patch to be guilty TBH :-)17:39
ScottKdidrocks: You could force it to build on gcc-4.5 on oneiric to try and narrow it to the compiler or maybe something else.17:39
didrocksScottK: nice idea, at least, we will be certain it's the cause, let's make a try in my ppa17:40
ScottKThere are other toolchain packages that could affect things, so it's a good step.17:41
LaserJockScottK: so I think I found what happened with the kdemultimedia deps. it went from libasound2-dev [!kfreebsd-i386,etc.] to libasound2-dev [linux-any]17:43
LaserJockso is [linux-any] recognized in Ubuntu?17:44
shadeslayeryes17:44
ScottKIt's recognized in soyuz17:44
shadeslayerLaserJock: in the oneiric pbuilder17:44
ScottKSo we ought to backport pbuilder17:44
shadeslayerthe natty pbuilder doesn't support it afail17:44
shadeslayer*afaik17:44
shadeslayerScottK: that would be the ideal case17:44
debfxScottK: actually we ought to SRU pbuilder17:45
LaserJockthis early on most people will be using natty I'd think17:45
ScottKSomeone should file a bug against natty-backports, test it and give me a ping so I can approve.17:45
ScottKdebfx: Perhaps.  I don't know what other changes are in the oneiric one.17:45
shadeslayerdebfx: maybe we could just have a patch against linux-any instead of a complete new release? 17:46
* ScottK thinks a backport would be way less work.17:46
ScottKSince we have not-automatic in backports now it's safe to have enabled.17:46
debfx0.199+nmu2 has: Handle architecture wildcards properly.17:48
micahgScottK: not-automatic is enabled in natty?17:51
ScottKmicahg: Yes.17:52
micahgcool17:52
bambeeevening17:58
bambeearff fuc**** report o_O (I am writing a report for my internship, I have a LOT of things to do...)  :'(17:59
bambeefortunately latex is my friend :D18:00
shadeslayerhave to learn latex at some point of time 18:02
shadeslayeri hear it's awesome18:02
yofelit is, I don't know it very well either though yet :/18:02
bambeeshadeslayer: http://www.labri.fr/perso/mazoit/index.php/En/Calendrier <-- a calandar built with latex :P18:04
LaserJocklatex is great for books and papers, can be pretty cool for presentations18:08
LaserJockgreat with equations18:09
LaserJockbut for simple stuff I'd rather just use a regular word processor since Latex formats things for you, which is not always what you want :-)18:09
shadeslayerwell ... we had bug 683439 but debian does not seem to have kalgebra-common, do i keep it?18:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 683439 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "split kalgebra mobile" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68343918:44
shadeslayerthey do have a seprate mobile package tho18:44
debfxScottK: bug #791940 if you want to sponsor the pbuilder fix18:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 791940 in pbuilder (Ubuntu) "pbuilder doesn't support architecture wildcards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79194018:52
_Groo_hi/2 all19:04
shadeslayerhey _Groo_19:05
_Groo_could anyone help me out to isolate a bug19:05
_Groo_anyone running 64bits (k)ubuntu pls try to install acroread from the partners repo19:05
_Groo_it should fail in nspluginwrapper19:06
_Groo_which is a hard dependency of acroread19:06
shadeslayer_Groo_: afaik nspluginwrapper is foobared in natty19:06
_Groo_shadeslayer: prolly but it should at least install cleanly, which doesnt19:06
_Groo_it breaks at apt lvl19:07
shadeslayeryes, i think i filed a bug against it19:07
shadeslayerlemme look19:07
shadeslayerbug 14161319:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 141613 in nspluginwrapper (Ubuntu) "npviewer.bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14161319:08
_Groo_yep thats the one19:08
_Groo_is it because we are using 64 bits flash?19:08
_Groo_and the two collide?19:09
shadeslayeri filed bug 69413719:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 694137 in nspluginwrapper (Ubuntu) "nspluginwrapper 1.22-0ubuntu8 fails to install on natty (dup-of: 357965)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69413719:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 357965 in nspluginwrapper (Ubuntu) "MASTER package nspluginwrapper 1.2.2-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: wrapper update crashes when gcu-plugin is installed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35796519:09
_Groo_i dont have gcu-plugin installed19:12
_Groo_im just gonna get the package source and ripout the wrapper dependencie.. i use the 64 bits anyway19:13
shadeslayeri just copied the flash so into my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder ... no packages required19:13
_Groo_shadeslayer: yeah i know, but does it fix the nspluginwrapper bug?19:16
shadeslayernope19:16
ScottKdebfx: Looking19:23
_Groo_shadeslayer: done... just replaced the dependency for flashplugin64 and rebuild the package19:26
shadeslayer_Groo_: heh ... kool :D19:27
_Groo_easier then doing a bunch of loops just to keep apt happy19:28
_Groo_this way, next update if it fixes it, ill receive.. if not, ill fix again19:28
JontheEchidnaagateau: ping19:41
randaloggerScottK: is it late yet?20:05
ScottKrandalogger: Definitely not.20:08
randaloggerog20:08
ScottKdebfx: Uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.20:09
debfxScottK: thank you too20:33
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ScottKLaserJock: Your pbuilder fix has been accepted into natty-proposed.  Once it's built, please test and then comment in bug #79194020:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 791940 in pbuilder (Ubuntu Natty) "pbuilder doesn't support architecture wildcards" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79194020:35
LaserJockScottK: ok20:35
ScottKdebfx and JontheEchidna: Time to start uploading again ....20:36
* ScottK is now stuck reviewing 200MB of engineering drawings.20:40
ScottKComments are due tomorrow and I got the drawings today.20:40
LaserJockyikes20:41
QuintasanScottK: 20:43
QuintasanDUH20:43
QuintasanScottK: Thanks.20:43
micahgis it worth filing the akregator doesn't use the global menu bug in LP?20:43
ScottKmicahg: No.20:44
ScottKmicahg: If you want to solve that, talk nicely to agateau and see if he'll write a patch.20:44
micahgScottK: k, thanks20:45
ScottKIt should be acceptable upstream.20:45
ScottKSo we'd just carry it as a distro patch for oneiric and see it upstream for 'p'.20:45
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DarkwingDuckScottK: Does someone normally add our meetings to the 'fridge' so that it shows up on the calander? http://www.ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge/20:53
ScottKDarkwingDuck: No idea.20:53
DarkwingDuckScottK: So we have not done that in the past?20:54
ScottKDarkwingDuck: No idea.20:54
ScottK(you may sense a patter developing)20:54
ScottKpatter/pattern20:54
DarkwingDuckLOL20:54
ScottKSomeone got them sched in #ubuntu-meeting, but no idea beyond that.20:55
DarkwingDuckOkay.20:55
DarkwingDuckI'll figure that out.20:55
DarkwingDuckand send out the email.20:55
shadeslayerScottK: i hear Engineering Drawings ... what are they about? :D21:00
LaserJockScottK: tested pbuilder fix and commented, thanks21:02
vorianbug 78131021:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 781310 in plasma-widget-smooth-tasks (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-smooth-tasks: new version wip2010-11-05 available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78131021:13
Quintasanhttp://identi.ca/notice/7519883521:16
Quintasanrepost/dent whatever you call it?21:16
vorianQuintasan: all of us?  :P21:17
Quintasanall of you21:17
Quintasanvorian: microblogging and bloggin are apparently main points for Community this cycle :P21:18
voriani see :)21:18
vorianI'll have to get better at posting21:18
yofelhey, we have other use cases too!21:18
yofellike...21:18
yofelwell...21:18
yofelother things21:18
Quintasanlol21:21
QuintasanYou don't sound convincing at all yofel21:21
yofel:P21:21
ScottKshadeslayer: $WORK.21:26
shadeslayerScottK: right .... i did engineering drawings in my second sem ... was just curious ;)21:27
vorianhow do you uupdate again.. (update -v blah ../stuff.tar.bz2) ?21:27
shadeslayervorian: update what? 21:28
shadeslayeroh21:28
vorianpalsma widget smooth tasks 21:28
* shadeslayer has never used uupdate21:29
vorianfigured it out21:29
vorian<3 uupdate21:29
shadeslayerlooks cool :D21:29
ScottKshadeslayer: In this case it's a building we're going to install a bunch of stuff in after it's built, so we have to make sure the building meets all the system requirements.21:30
shadeslayerah .. 21:31
shadeslayeri just did stuff like draw rectangles and circles using a drafter ... i miss my drafter ... :P21:34
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QuintasanScottK: Oh god, sound like fun, good luck21:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah, its horrible work, we had to make stuff like this : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zv8axZ_uoT8/TGkepLByBBI/AAAAAAAAAII/Uc_jmVxB7Lw/s1600/engineering_drawing.jpg21:47
shadeslayerand thats one of the easy drawings21:47
* shadeslayer shudders21:48
shadeslayeroh good lord21:52
shadeslayeryofel: something is wrong with your thinkpad21:52
yofelnothing is wrong, it's just building Qt, finished in a few21:52
shadeslayeryofel: uh ... no .. .something is wrong with firefox on your thinkpad21:53
shadeslayeryofel: http://i.imgur.com/iMVbw.png21:53
yofelO_O21:54
yofelshadeslayer: and how is that on my thinkpad?21:56
shadeslayeruh what?21:56
shadeslayerhm21:57
shadeslayerbleh21:57
yofelthe R61 doesn't even have firefox installed21:57
shadeslayeryofel: i ran htop on my local machine xD21:57
* yofel figured as much21:57
shadeslayeri pressed ctrl+shift+n instead of Ctrl+a+Ctrl+c21:58
* shadeslayer can't even figure out how that happened21:58
yofelheh21:58
ScottKyofel: shadeslayer is probably confused by too much  complaining about exams.21:58
yofelhahaha21:58
shadeslayer@_@21:58
shadeslayeronly 2 more to go21:58
shadeslayerand then i shall be freeeeeee21:58
Quintasanlol21:59
* Quintasan has still three left21:59
Quintasanno, 4 even21:59
shadeslayeri would have one left ... but i failed in a exam last sem xD21:59
Quintasanand 5 if that old man decides to have us write a test21:59
shadeslayerso have to clear it this semester21:59
Quintasangod damn it21:59
QuintasanPhysics tomorrow21:59
shadeslayer<3 Physics22:00
Quintasanand I don't the whole stuff22:00
shadeslayeratleast it was doable22:00
Quintasanhistory and chemistry and another one from history22:00
Quintasanand one more from geography22:00
QuintasanFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-22:01
shadeslayerQuintasan: i know the feeling ... all i've done in the past 6 months is give exam .... :'(22:02
voriani didn't think they taught that anymore22:02
shadeslayers/exam/exams22:02
Quintasanvorian: Taught what?22:05
shadeslayerQuintasan: Geography22:05
vorianno the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU22:06
shadeslayerah22:06
shadeslayeryou mean f7u12 :P22:06
vorianJontheEchidna: bug fixored :)22:06
Quintasanvorian: Well, all these tests make me RAAAAGE22:06
vorianI can see that22:06
JontheEchidnacool!22:07
vorianthanks, reminded me of a few things i once forgot22:07
shadeslayerdebfx: around?22:10
debfxshadeslayer: yep22:11
shadeslayerdebfx: okay so in kdeedu debian/rules, we figure out if the arch is ARM or not and accordingly add : DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS += -DWITH_OpenGL=OFF22:11
shadeslayernow i want to do it inside override_dh_auto_configure, so i would have to write the entire overridden command again?22:12
shadeslayerif(arch is arm) overridden command else other overridden command22:12
debfxyes, or you use a variable that contains all config fals22:13
debfx*flags22:13
shadeslayerokay22:14
ScottKshadeslayer: You mean even with all your "Oh, no, I can't do $STUFF due to exams" you still didn't pass them all?22:15
* ScottK wonders again what the youth of today is coming to.22:15
shadeslayerScottK: more like the uni decided to fail the entire batch because they wanted to earn moniez22:15
shadeslayerso ... they failed a total of 180 students from our college22:16
ScottKAh.  Youthful dodging of responsibility.22:16
shadeslayergo figure22:16
* ScottK wonders more22:16
shadeslayer*shrug22:16
shadeslayerdebfx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/617069/ << that look ok?22:19
shadeslayerderp22:19
shadeslayerhold on22:19
debfxin this case I would really use a variable22:20
debfxconf_args = ...22:20
debfxif (armel) conf_args +=22:20
shadeslayeri should really finish the make manual22:21
debfxeh, we copy some icons from oxygen to hicolor instead of symlinking them :o22:25
shadeslayerdebfx: better : http://paste.ubuntu.com/617076/ ?22:26
yofelyeah, though I would personally move the - too22:26
debfxyep and a "\" is missing22:27
debfxother than that it looks fine22:28
yofelah right22:28
shadeslayerokay so when it detects that the arch is not ARM, then conf_arg does not get declared right? how does make deal with that?22:29
yofelit'll simply be empty22:29
yofelyou'll find the same way to add cmake stuff in neons makefile btw.22:29
shadeslayerhmm22:30
* shadeslayer adds reading make manual to TODO22:30
yofelI read half of it when creating pkg-project-neon.mk :P22:31
yofelodd language22:31
shadeslayerhehe22:31
shadeslayeryofel: i had a fun discussion about make at UDS N with randalogger and persia :)22:33
ScottKrandalogger: ^^^ shadeslayer is independently rediscovering the good advice you gave him some time ago.22:33
yofelhaha22:33
ScottKAnd yet, you didn't actually do what randalogger suggested.22:34
shadeslayeryep, which is quite a huge loss22:34
ScottKIt's almost like you feel randalogger assigns studies as random work instead of carefully selecting areas of study for his minions in order to give them the best chance of edifying themselves.22:35
yofelanyway, if he ever needs to add custom stuff to neon rules he better know make in the future :P22:35
ScottKyofel: No worries.  He'll be too busy claiming to be studying for exams.22:36
* yofel sees a pattern developing...22:36
shadeslayerScottK: its getting boring now22:36
ScottKThe studying or my harping about it?22:37
shadeslayerboth tbh22:37
ScottKWe could go back to the excessively sized laptop meme.22:37
shadeslayertheres a meme about that? :P22:37
shadeslayerScottK: best to find something new to harp about now22:38
yofelbuy yourself a fez, then we can talk about how it doesn't suit you :P22:38
shadeslayersounds like a plan22:39
ScottKWell, there's how annoying stacks of engineering drawings are to review, but that'd be boring.22:39
* Quintasan hands ScottK some coffee and Master Troll badge22:57
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