[00:05] <uberdub> can someone explain what the heck is going on with my wifi?
[00:06] <uberdub> http://pastebin.com/MTS2BemU
[00:08] <uberdub> Im beginning to think its a bug
[00:10] <chachan> uberdub, did you try removing and adding the module?
[00:11] <uberdub> yes
[00:11] <uberdub> Ive dont that
[00:12] <chachan> uberdub, try a live CD before thinking there's a bug, also you'll know if it could be a hardware problem
[01:49] <fester77> I've just mounted my winpartitions in dolphin .... they show up in /media .... with their labels as names , can i some how change that to i e /media/win/d etc?
[01:50] <fester77> i tried to rename with krusader but that wont do it
[02:46] <gasper> hi
[02:46] <latinlover> whats up sir taco
[02:48] <gasper> tem algum brasileiro ai?
[02:48] <maco> !br | gasper
[02:56] <latinlover> can any one help on how to  me set up KOPETE SMS
[02:57] <chrisina1ar> so, I open the audio config tool and click "Test", sound comes out. Sound does not work anywhere else in my OS... Ideas? 11.04 fresh install as of about an hour ago...
[02:58] <chrisina1ar> ohh, amarok works
[02:58] <chrisina1ar> chrome, firefox, and pidgin all do not
[02:59] <chrisina1ar> i would assume gtk applications aren't working an kde applications are... I wonder if they're looking for Alsa or something?
[02:59] <latinlover> hi cristina how are you?
[02:59] <chrisina1ar> add an h, remove a t, and i'm doing well :)
[03:00] <petete> is there any way to make java output sound correctly?
[03:00] <latinlover> were is sir taco?
[03:01] <chrisinajar> I haven't used Kubuntu in a while, been using 8.04 at the office... So far it's really slow and sound doesn't work :/
[03:01]  * chrisinajar misses kde 3 D:
[03:03] <Roey> hello
[03:03] <chrisinajar> hello
[03:03] <Roey> what's this with Firefox freezing my system suddenly when I open links from within Pidgin windows???
[03:03] <Roey> hey chris
[03:03] <Roey> you're in a jar; what happened there?
[03:03] <chrisinajar> it's a trap
[03:03] <chrisinajar> do you want pidgin to open the links in firefox?
[03:04] <kurtul_> chrisinajar: did you try removing pulseaudio?
[03:04] <chrisinajar> kurtul_: no, but i tried adding it
[03:04] <Roey> chrisinajar:  heh
[03:04] <Roey> chrisinajar:  see the whole system just freezes...
[03:04] <chrisinajar> kurtul_: i don't think it was installed by default, i could be wrong
[03:05] <Roey> I can SSH into it but... I can only do alt-sysreq-BUSIER.
[03:05] <chrisinajar> Roey: go into your settings, one of the tabs shows the command it runs when you click on links, try fixing that
[03:05] <Roey> that's the only thing that it seems to respond to.
[03:05] <Roey> chrisinajar:  yeah but what exactly is causing my system to freeze?
[03:05] <chrisinajar> Roey: probably xorg breaking
[03:05] <chrisinajar> dunno!
[03:05] <chrisinajar> Roey: try sshing in and running top
[03:06] <chrisinajar> Roey: also, check .xsession-errors (sp?) in your home directory
[03:06] <Roey> ah true
[03:07] <chrisinajar> hm... contemplating installing xfce instead of this kde shenanigans... xfce tends to "just work"...
[03:07] <Roey> chrisinajar:  I've searched and all I found are links to Firefox 'crashing'
[03:07] <Roey> but nothing about the system up and freezing
[03:07] <chrisinajar> Roey: well, if your whole x sessions breaks then it's not just firefox crashing
[03:07] <Roey> I will check the xsession errors, one sec
[03:07] <Roey> chrisinajar:  true...
[03:07] <Roey> perhaps it's related to Flash somehow
[03:07]  * chrisinajar needs sound for a skype interview tomorrow
[03:07] <chrisinajar> shoulda just left 10.04 installed, it actually worked.
[03:09] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/TERGmDqS
[03:09] <Roey> seems like you've heard of similar issues?
[03:10] <chrisinajar> Roey: change pidgin to load links in firefox instead of konqueror
[03:10] <Roey> hrm
[03:10] <chrisinajar> Roey: looks like flash + konq are nuking your system
[03:11] <chrisinajar> Roey: it's right there in the settings, easy to find
[03:11] <Roey> chrisinajar:  /usr/bin/chromium-browser
[03:11] <Roey> that's what it launches at the moment.
[03:11] <Roey> that crashes
[03:11] <Roey> er
[03:11] <Roey> that freezes my system
[03:11] <chrisinajar> Roey: that or use chrome, i've found it works much better under linux anyway...
[03:11] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <Roey> FloodBotK1:  out, stupid bot
[03:11] <chrisinajar> craaaap! i need sound!
[03:11] <Roey> chrisinajar:  and so does Fx when I try to right-click save on an animated gif (that also inexplicably freezes the system; not even the mouse moves).
[03:12] <Roey> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
[03:12] <chrisinajar> huh
[03:12] <Roey> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!
[03:12] <chrisinajar> really weird
[03:12] <chrisinajar> from the googling i've done, it seems like 11.04 is a very buggy release :(
[03:12] <Roey> oh
[03:12] <Roey> chrisinajar:  how so
[03:12] <Roey> is thatsound enough for ya
[03:13] <chrisinajar> lots and lots of complaints about bad graphics drivers and souns problems, causing lots of lagginess and sometimes freezes
[03:13] <chrisinajar> my system is definitely laggy
[03:13] <chrisinajar> i'm downloading xfce as we speak
[03:13] <chrisinajar> i can't use this
[03:15] <Roey> okay
[03:15] <Roey> eek.
[03:15] <Roey> I mean it worked for me but I understand you completely as it has happened to me on a bunch of releases.
[03:18] <chrisinajar> hah, at least HoN runs :3
[03:20] <bravo> hola!!
[03:20] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: what's your sound chip?
[03:20] <Daskreech> bravo: hello
[03:21] <bravo> soy nuevo en esto.......
[03:21] <Daskreech> !es
[03:23] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: it's an on-keyboard sound device, on the G110
[03:24] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: the test button in the sound config tool works, but even on the next tab clicking the left and right speaker buttons do not. amarok and other kde applications can make sound, but chrome, pidgin, and skype all cannot
[03:24] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: this is off of a fresh installation as of about an hour and a half ago
[03:26] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: it seems after logging out and back in, amarok cannot make sound
[03:26] <chrisinajar> only the test button can currently make sound (good test!)
[03:27] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: does alsamix work?
[03:27] <chrisinajar> command not found
[03:27] <Daskreech> um
[03:28] <Daskreech> alsamixer
[03:28] <chrisinajar> it opens
[03:28] <chrisinajar> is there a way to make it test?
[03:32] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: alsamixer runs and see's my card
[03:32] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: there's no way to make it test it, though....
[03:33] <Daskreech> things are not muted?
[03:34] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: nope, if i mute them the test button in the kde config tool stops working :)
[03:35] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: i can turn up and down the volume, all is well, the test button still works. Every other application on my system, however, still does not.
[03:36] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: might want to check if there is something like an internal sound vs a  sound card in the preferences
[03:36] <chrisinajar> there is
[03:36] <Roey> Daskreech:  hey!! :)
[03:36] <Daskreech> You tested both?
[03:36] <Daskreech>  hi Roey
[03:36] <Roey> hey hey
[03:36] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: Only my PnP device works, the internet card referrs to the ports on the back of my computer
[03:36] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: i believe what's happening is that every single application except the settings tool is using that
[03:37] <chrisinajar> I need to tell my system as a whole to use the device I have configured in my settings to use
[03:37] <chrisinajar> which I would assume would be done via the settings tool, but it's not working
[03:39] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: you swapped the preference?
[03:41] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: I manually created a ~/.asoundrc file and told it to use my other device
[03:41] <chrisinajar> everything works now
[03:41] <casa> how intall FreePascal in Kdevelop
[03:41] <casa> ?
[03:42] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: yay!
[03:50] <jordan_> i have a question i remove the default WB then konqueror install can i remove konqueror from kubuntu 11.04?
[03:52] <jordan_> everything online reguarding "can i remove konqueror?" is a little old
[03:53] <jordan_> i did find a administrator on kde forum said yoou could
[03:53] <jordan_> but im not going to pull the triger yet until i know
[03:54] <jordan_> but that was four years ago
[04:06] <chrisinajar> the plot thickens. I've gotten sound to work in most applications, including Skype, however when I open chrome it breaks sound in Skype until I close chrome again
[04:06] <chrisinajar> the devices actually disappear from the list
[04:06] <chrisinajar> any ideas?
[04:06] <chrisinajar> Daskreech: --^
[04:07] <Daskreech> chrisinajar: not sure I know skype messes with my sound but it's acceptable for me
[04:08] <Daskreech> chrome ships with it's own codecs and sounds management as well
[04:08] <Daskreech> somehow I'm not that surprised they somehow end in a battle
[04:08] <Daskreech> jordan_: What are you asking?
[04:09] <jordan_> i was wonder if i could remove konqueror
[04:09] <jordan_> like "sudo apt-get remove konqueror' then input Y then enter
[04:09] <Daskreech> jordan_: yes
[04:10] <jordan_> why did i install after i removed keq?
[04:10] <jordan_> it*
[04:10] <Daskreech> what did what install?
[04:11] <jordan_> i didnt have konqueror on my compyter before
[04:11] <jordan_> computer*
[04:13] <jordan_> here on the main page pn kubuntu web site it says konqueror came with 11.04
[04:14] <jordan_> but i didnt have a icon in my launcher and kpack download some file with "konqueror"
[04:15] <jordan_> soooo i dont know
[04:15]  * chrisinajar is confused as to what he's asking
[04:15] <chrisinajar> yay, got kdevelop all configured the way I like... All I need now is skype to work correctly and I can go to bed
[04:15] <jordan_> is there a fail safe? if you delete your web browser?
[04:16] <chrisinajar> jordan_: install another web browser, would be the failsafe
[04:16] <chrisinajar> jordan_: personally i recommend chrome, although a lot of people also like firefox
[04:16] <jordan_> i use firefox
[04:16] <jordan_> i dislike chromes bookmarking
[04:16] <chrisinajar> ok, then you don't need konqueror for anything
[04:17] <chrisinajar> feel free to remove it and rejoice
[04:17] <jordan_> if i remove kon will rek install again then?
[04:17] <jordan_> ill see
[04:17] <chrisinajar> rek?
[04:19] <jordan_> the browser kubuntu comes with
[04:19] <chrisinajar> huh, i had no idea that existed
[04:19] <chrisinajar> only knew about konq
[04:20] <jordan_> well its called a web kit
[04:21] <jordan_> "rekonq"
[04:22] <jordan_> based on a web kit
[04:22] <jordan_> or whatever
[04:22] <jordan_> ty btw
[04:43] <alokito> I can't play any movies with kaffeine
[04:43] <alokito> I'm using natty
[05:12] <kilani> Good morning everyone
[05:12] <preecher> kilani morning
[05:13] <kilani> preecher hi
[05:15] <kilani> preecher which version of ubuntu u'r usin'??
[05:15] <preecher> 11.04
[05:15] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all.
[05:15] <iRabbit> o/
[05:15] <preecher> greetings
[05:15] <kilani> preecher cool
[05:18] <kilani> news today?!
[05:20] <areichman> hello. I just bought a DVD and I'm trying to back it up to my hard drive so I don't have to mess with a disc. I've done most of my collection with dvdbackup -M but this one keeps failing with "libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed". Any thoughts?
[05:22] <LINKSWORD2> Which DVD? :P
[05:22] <areichman> Easy A :-)
[05:22] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[05:23] <areichman> I've ripped a bunch of TV Shows and Movies with this method and the only one I've had issues with other than this is Dark Knight
[05:23] <LINKSWORD2> All right. Which application are you using to try to play it?
[05:23] <areichman> that was a different issue, though
[05:23] <areichman> I can't get it ripped at all
[05:23] <areichman> no file to try and play
[05:23] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm...
[05:24] <LINKSWORD2> I honestly have no idea, then.
[05:24] <areichman> I get the error message I posted originally, it repeats once, and then libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO
[05:24] <areichman> and then says it failed
[05:24] <areichman> me neither
[05:24] <areichman> it's a newer movie, but I thought the format would have to be the same on all discs, otherwise how would never discs play on older players?
[05:25] <areichman> newer*
[05:25] <LINKSWORD2> If you have another computer, I would recommend ripping it and copying it to a USB key or portable drive to transfer it to your current computer.
[05:25] <LINKSWORD2> I also recommend the .mp4 video file extension, as it's the most widely compatible.
[05:26] <areichman> I've been burning to .iso files
[05:26] <areichman> I like menus and subtitles and bonus features
[05:26] <areichman> you think it would help going to another computer?
[05:26] <areichman> they all run the same OS, kubuntu 11.04
[05:27] <LINKSWORD2> I think another computer is a possibility.
[05:27] <areichman> oddly, k3b can see all the vob files
[05:27] <areichman> okay, I'll give it a shot
[05:27] <LINKSWORD2> Then again, I have 2 Windows computers, along with my current PC running Kubuntu 11.04.
[05:28] <areichman> hang on, after k3b lists all the files, I get the same error but then it starts getting keys
[05:29] <LINKSWORD2> That's odd.
[05:29] <areichman> and then it gives me new errors about reading VIDEO_TS.VOB at block #### (different locations)
[05:29] <areichman> and then something about padding x blocks
[05:29] <areichman> yeah, very weird
[05:30] <LINKSWORD2> Excuse me, I need to leave my computer for a moment.
[05:37] <LINKSWORD2> Back.
[05:37] <LINKSWORD2> areichman: Did your problem get fixed?
[05:39] <areichman> I don't know yet, the original computer is still trying to copy, getting lots of "Error reading some file at block ##" and "Padding ### blocks"
[05:41] <LINKSWORD2> areichman: Do you mind if I open a one-to-one chat for a moment?
[05:41] <areichman> not at all
[05:49] <Spaz_Dynamic> skype (per ubuntu repos) exits without a message after about 5 seconds when launched. if I run it from Konsole, I only get the message "Terminated"
[05:51] <LINKSWORD2> I refuse to use Skype. I hate it. >.>
[05:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> That doesn't help a whole lot ;)
[05:52] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[05:52] <LINKSWORD2> Sorry. xD
[05:52] <s_p_or_t_o> Spaz_Dynamic, i downloaded skype from their website and it's working fine for me
[05:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> No problem. =)
[05:53] <s_p_or_t_o> ^ in 11.04
[05:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> s_p_or_t_o: did you get linux skype, or skype static?
[05:53] <s_p_or_t_o> linux skype beta: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[05:54] <s_p_or_t_o> i'm using 32bit
[05:54] <Spaz_Dynamic> so ubuntu, not static
[05:55] <s_p_or_t_o> yes
[05:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> hrm, maybe an ubuntu update borked it then, cause thats the one I had, but I think it got updated from the repos. I'll try uninstalling it and reinstalling it from the .deb
[05:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> it does the same thing...
[05:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> something else must be conflicting with it
[05:58] <s_p_or_t_o> are you running 32bit or 64bit
[05:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> 64
[05:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> it had been working last I tried (week or two ago)
[05:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> Actually, more recently than that, I believe
[05:59] <s_p_or_t_o> did you install the 32bit lib? (ia32-libs)
[06:00] <Spaz_Dynamic> ia32-libs is installed, yes.
[06:01] <asobi> adding a script to autostart. there's an option for "create as symlink" do i pick yes or no?
[06:01] <s_p_or_t_o> what does "dmesg | tail" tell you, Spaz_Dynamic
[06:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> It launches, shows the login window, and exits, and had been working a few days ago.
[06:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> and the dmesg has some messages from stuff I was doing a few hours ago
[06:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> specifically some messages about mounting some things
[06:04] <pckoders> echo "#TO UNBUNDLE, SH THIS FILE"  for i  do
[06:04] <pckoders> echo "echo $i 1>&2"
[06:05] <pckoders> echo "cat > $i  << 'End of $i' "
[06:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> interesting
[06:05] <pckoders> cat $i
[06:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> skype static closes too.
[06:05] <pckoders> echo "End of $i"
[06:05] <pckoders> done
[06:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> something is seeking and destroying skype. =(
[06:06] <pckoders> what  this code does?
[06:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> I am going to take drastic measures.... I'm going to restart my computer.
[06:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> brb
[06:07] <s_p_or_t_o> Spaz_Dynamic, interesting, what's the version number in software management, mines 2.2.0.25-1
[06:07] <s_p_or_t_o> kk
[06:10] <TeslaTony> I cannot get visual effects to work on my machine after upgrading to 11.4. I have an HP Mini 110 with Intel Mobile 945GME graphics.  Previously, Compiz worked with zero issues on Gnome, but KDE is choking
[06:11] <LINKSWORD2> *Sigh.* I can't stay awake.
[06:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> peculiar, it is still doing it...
[06:13] <pckoders> anyone expert in SHELL scripting?
[06:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> What is kernel taint?
[06:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> it sounds funny
[06:22] <Spaz_Dynamic> s_p_or_t_o: http://magvar.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/skype-crashes-on-start-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-32bit-and-64bit/
[06:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> renaming specified file seems to have resolved my problem
[06:25] <s_p_or_t_o> sweet, i'll keep it in mind on my next restart of skype lol
[07:37] <Arv3n> hey all
[07:37] <Arv3n> just a quick question: how can i drag and drop a favorites shortcut in kicker to my desktop folder view widget?
[07:37] <Arv3n> manually creating each shortcut sucks.
[07:48] <kilani> Greetings
[07:49] <Daskreech> hi
[07:49] <Daskreech> Arv3n: kicker?
[07:49] <Daskreech>  kde3?
[08:33] <kilani> ppl
[08:34] <kilani> I can't understand why my Kubuntu failed to connect to WLAN if the connection is encrypted (passphrase)
[09:38] <robbiethe1st> Hey guys, got a fairly simple question: I have KDE setup to auto login and lock the screen. I need to run a script when I unlock the computer. How can I do it?
[09:39] <robbiethe1st> (I mean, when I unlock the system it automatically runs the script)
[10:05] <lengau> robbiethe1st - I'm not sure that's possible with the current version of Kscreensaver. You may want to write a feature request on the KDE bug tracker (bugs.kde.org). Sorry.
[10:05] <robbiethe1st> Darn
[10:07] <ShorTie> how can i get dolphin to copy some files from a ntfs partition over to kubuntu's ext4 partition?
[10:09] <lengau> ShorTie - You should just be able to click the corresponding disk in the Places bar (on the left), find the file, and copy it like you would files in your home directory.
[10:09] <lengau> (ShorTie) Using the Split view is often very convenient for that :-)
[10:10] <cousin_mario> Hello.
[10:10] <lengau> Hello, cousin_mario
[10:10] <ShorTie> i've tried right click copy, but when i get back to /usr/local/src there is no paste
[10:11] <cousin_mario> A few days ago somebody gave me the link to the launchpad page about the nvidia bug with xorg >1.9, only now I can't find it anymore.
[10:11] <lengau> Your user account doesn't have privileges to write to /usr/local/src. Try opening Dolphin as the administrator by typing "kdesu dolphin" into krunner (alt-F2)
[10:12] <lengau> (that was meant for ShorTie)
[10:12] <lengau> cousin_mario - Do you mean this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/626974
[10:14] <cousin_mario> lengau: no, it's not legacy and it's on Natty
[10:15] <cousin_mario> lengau: in the bug page there was a link to the nvidia forum talking about it and when the patch will be released
[10:15] <lengau> This one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/711409
[10:15] <ShorTie> Thankz .... :) lengau
[10:16] <lengau> ShorTie - You're welcome.
[10:18] <lengau> cousin_mario - This seems related to the last one I linked as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/703688
[10:20] <cousin_mario> lengau: thanks, but I recall the linked forum thread debating the merits of 275.xx
[10:21] <cousin_mario> lengau: I probably haven't looked hard enough:)
[10:25] <Samo502> I installed kubuntu's desktop in regular ubuntu for the ability to choose it if I like(while keeping the Unity), and the shutdown button doesn't seem to work
[10:26] <Samo502> while keeping the Unity desktop*
[10:31] <lengau> Samo502 - I believe this is an issue with KDE talking to GDM (the login manager). A quick workaround is to simply log out and then shut down. Otherwise, you can make KDM your default login manager and install the kdm-gdmcompat package, which I believe will let you use the shutdown, reboot, etc. features in both KDE and Unity.
[11:44] <deanna> Greets, everyone... X is crashing as soon as it starts (i.e., ~1 second after the hour glass shows up). Here's my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/7F4durig
[11:49] <deanna> Any ideas?
[11:59] <flykillers> can anyone help me?
[12:00] <flykillers> i just helped my friend installed kubuntu and his wireless network cannot connect it say it need ip config
[12:27] <gundri> hello
[12:29] <flykillers> why kubuntu always freeze?
[12:30] <flykillers> *why my kubuntu 11.04 always freeze?
[12:30] <toams> because its a cool distro?
[12:31] <toams> sorry for not being very helpfull...
[12:32] <flykillers> i mean why it always hang?
[12:32] <yofel> define "freeze"
[12:34] <flykillers> what  really mean is why it always stuck?
[12:34] <toams> how stuck?
[12:34] <wintellect> flykillers: where does it get stuck/freeze?
[12:47] <flykillers_> my friend just installed kubuntu and his kubuntu cannot connect to the wireless??
[12:48] <flykillers_> it say it need ip config address?
[12:48] <flykillers_> can anyone help me??
[12:49] <yofel> which kubuntu release is that? As long as your network has DHCP it should get the address from there
[12:50] <flykillers_> kubuntu 11.04
[12:50] <flykillers_> it have..
[12:51] <cousin_mario> flykillers_: what wifi card is he using?
[12:51] <cablop> i want to run a flash screensaver on kde, how to accomplish it? all guides talk about using xscreensaver, instead of kscreensaver, any suggestion?
[12:51] <cousin_mario> flykillers_: I take that the wpa negotiation works then.
[12:54] <cousin_mario> flykillers_: does the DHCP server normally supply the IP to other clients ?
[12:55] <flykillers_> maybe...
[12:58] <cousin_mario> I suggest you find out then.
[13:05] <kubu2> everytime I run quassel there is this annoying letter-envelop on systray saying I have 1 app running - quassel.  Of course I konw that.
[13:06] <amichair> kubu2: you can remove it from the system tray settings
[13:06] <kubu2> amichair: the thing is there is no remove. only hide
[13:06] <amichair> under Display -> Extra Items, you can check/uncheck various components
[13:07] <amichair> It sounds like the one that's bugging you is Message Indicator - uncheck it
[13:08] <kubu2> ok..but why does quassel only doing that?
[13:09] <amichair> I guess it's the only app you're running that uses this notification system
[13:10] <kubu2> I think this is redundant..that is why kubuntu is so fat?
[13:10] <amichair> fat?
[13:10] <kubu2> it's like having the toilet telling you 'sir you just poop'
[13:11] <amichair> kubu2: to each his own...
[13:12] <amichair> (I removed the message indicator as well. But then, I use konversation, not quassel)
[13:12] <amichair> kubu2: the plus side is that it's configurable, like much of KDE - there is no 'one and only' way.
[13:12] <kubu2> amichair: yeah..did you know there is a project for a low-fat kubuntu?
[13:12] <cousin_mario> bbl
[13:13] <amichair> kubu2: I did not, that would be interesting
[13:14] <amichair> I'd get rid of all the akonadi crap, with it's mysql db and handful of useless running processes and strigi taking up gigs of disk space for nothing.
[13:15] <kubu2> exactly..but the thing is kubuntu has them all tied up that's it's hard to without re-building deb pkgs to weed out dependencies
[13:15] <amichair> and fix all those dang memory leaks and bloats in plasma and X (plus a few 100%cpu bugs too - can't believe they still have those)
[13:15] <amichair> Just today (well, yesterday too) I had to reboot my system because I had the audacity to try and resize a window.
[13:17] <kubu2> amichair: I haven't seen that one but you may have other issues but then again it's something kde/kubuntu may not handle well
[13:18] <kubu2> i'm guessing you may have system isssues for such a basic thing to freeze your system
[13:19] <amichair> kubu2: I think it's just a bug, introduced in Natty (didn't have any trouble before the upgrade). Has to do with desktop effects, though I don't know if the bug is in the effects, or plasma, or kwin, or X, or NVidia drivers. They're all pretty buggy.
[13:21] <kubu2> amichair: try using NVidia drivers instead
[13:22] <amichair> kubu2: already am
[13:23] <cablop> can i run flash as screensaver in kubuntu? i don't find a way to do that
[13:23] <kubu2> you can isolate things by disabling desk-effects on go on from there
[13:23] <cablop> i'll end replacing kscreensaver with xscreensaver otherwise
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:51] <amichair> hey BluesKaj
[13:52] <yofel> hi BluesKaj
[13:52] <BluesKaj> hi amichair yofel
[13:59] <BluesKaj> too bad amarok is so buggy , or do I not understand it's quirks ?
[14:01] <DeltaEpsilon> BluesKaj: it is sadly buggy
[14:01] <DeltaEpsilon> :-(
[14:09] <Zolorado> hi there! My wifi is very-very slow on Kubuntu 11.04, somebody has teh same problem?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> too many options for a simple user like me ...I don't care about playlists etc , I just want it to load the music folders so i can scroll down and choose what I want ,,, all the other stuff is superfluous
[14:14]  * BluesKaj switches all default media xtns to vlc
[14:14] <BluesKaj> godbye amarok
[14:16] <OerHeks> on KDE, i like QuodLibet
[14:17] <BluesKaj> never looked at it
[14:18] <BluesKaj> QuodLibet is a gtk app
[14:19] <OerHeks> ugghh youŕe right :(
[14:21] <DeltaEpsilon> can some one view http://kde-apps.org/ with Rekonq? does it ask you to save a  file named safari.jsp?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> I have to use nautlius-dropbox so i have a few gtk-libs , it's a necessary evil
[14:22] <Zolorado> please, I need some help! my wireless speed is very low, I don't know what's wrog, it worked beter on Win XP
[14:22] <BluesKaj> DeltaEpsilon, yes it goes here too
[14:22] <BluesKaj> err does
[14:22] <DeltaEpsilon> weird
[14:23] <DeltaEpsilon> :(
[14:23] <DeltaEpsilon> shame they haven't tested it with kde-apps.org with Rekonq.
[14:23] <DeltaEpsilon> and Rekonq is listed in kde-apps.org
[14:23] <DeltaEpsilon> :(
[14:24] <BluesKaj> not a rekonq fan , it's not very configurable for preferred look and layout
[14:24] <BluesKaj> my
[14:25] <DeltaEpsilon> BluesKaj: it integrates well in kde4
[14:25] <DeltaEpsilon> BluesKaj: I fixed it by adding safari.jsp to the ads block list in Rekonq
[14:26] <BluesKaj> integrates yes , but not to my tasten , i don't want bookmarks bar as a sidebar  and there's no across the top option from my experience with it
[14:26] <amichair> if it asks you to download a jsp file, it sound like a server configuration bug, not a client bug (without knowing anything else about it)
[14:29] <DeltaEpsilon> is Qt cross platform?
[14:29] <aljosa> how do i connect to hidden wifi? i can manage connection but can't connect?
[14:29] <amichair> DeltaEpsilon: so they say
[14:32] <DeltaEpsilon> amichair: I am trying to make a dictionary app with multi language support.
[14:32] <DeltaEpsilon> it would be nice if I can also compile it for windows
[14:33] <amichair> then you can try qt, or wxwidgets
[14:33] <amichair> but keep your core code nicely encapsulated, just in case :-)
[14:34] <amichair> or, you can try any interpreted/JIT language (java, python, etc.), but there are pluses and minuses to those
[14:37] <DeltaEpsilon> :( I thought Realbasic is free for opensource developers
[15:18] <Ghost_Who_Walks> it's raining here guys :)
[15:19] <maco> so get some wellies. this is a support channel
[16:00] <Linkmaster> I'm having difficulty with the plasma-desktop. If I have to restart it, I use the 'kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop' command. when I start it up again using 'plasma-desktop', the bar goes across the middle of my screen. I'll take a screenshot to show it, but is there any way to move it back to left? Rebooting does the trick, but I hate having to reboot my system whenever this happens
[16:22] <paolo> ciao
[16:42] <paolinux> hi i have installed kubu 11.04 64 bit.... when i resize konsole (and only it) my system crash
[16:44] <Philip5> +1
[16:45] <Philip5> ops
[16:50] <Linkmaster> paolinux: You have nvidia
[16:50] <Linkmaster> *?
[16:50] <paolinux> yes
[16:51] <Linkmaster> thats most likely why. I don't have nvidia myself, but I've seen a lot of people with this, let me look up the history real fast to try and see what others suggested
[16:51] <Linkmaster> Wait, DarthFrog, you know the right link to send someone who uses nvidia and the konsole crashing issue?
[16:53] <paolinux> Linkmaster: thanks :)
[16:56] <Linkmaster> paolinux: according to genii-around, its the xorg-edgers
[17:03] <ct529> updated to 11.04, and it is hardly a success .... the system freezes when I start the terminal, when I install packages I get Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_assistant_set_page_header_image: assertion `child != NULL' failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 27.
[17:03] <fake_> ку всем
[17:04] <ct529> anyone who has been able to solve these two?
[17:04] <genii-around> paolinux:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa      then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    should bring in the 275.09 Nvidia drivers in the package nvidia-current
[17:06] <paolinux> genii-around: i will try to apply it :)
[17:07] <Linkmaster> genii-around: thanks for helping me out there, I was trying to scrounge around for the missing information on the webz
[17:10] <paolinux> Linkmaster: thanks to you
[17:10] <Linkmaster> I didn't do anything though D:
[17:10] <paolinux> :)
[17:25] <shadeslayer> paolinux: known issue, its because konsole is a ARGB window whereas everything else is RGB window, theres a bug with the ARGB window painting as i understand right now ( with the nvidia drivers ) .... for some reason upgrading to xorg-edgers didn't do anything for me, my system still shows artefacts
[17:27] <paolinux> shadeslayer: hum.....
[17:28] <shadeslayer> paolinux: i've switched to yakuake for the time being
[17:28] <shadeslayer> ( and i still have the issue on KDE 4.7 )
[17:28] <paolinux> this is a good idea
[17:28] <paolinux> to switch to yakuake
[17:29] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: how did you get 4.7? they have a ppa for it now?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: i have Project Neon installed, running KDE trunk
[17:29] <shadeslayer> and as i understand it, the developers aren't touching 4.7 till beta 2
[17:29] <Linkmaster> darn, I was hoping inside it wasn't through Project Neon
[17:29] <johnny_> Does Kopete 1.0.80 has some bug or something...because I can't connet to Y!
[17:30] <Linkmaster> johnny_: theres known problems for Kopete's...frustrating response with Y!
[17:30] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: PN is the closest right now to a KDE 4.7 experience you'll get :D
[17:30] <paolinux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/760632
[17:30] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: though the devels not touching it makes sense..4.6->4.7 is a larger jump then 4.6.3->4.6.4
[17:30] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:31] <johnny_> ubottu ubuntu with nvidia is great!!
[17:31] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: I've been thinking of project neon off and on the last week...how does it compare?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: and we're merging from debian atm ... so i think it's going to be a while before we have 4.7 in a ppa
[17:32] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: i have a biased opinion, since i'm one of the co maintainers of neon xD
[17:32] <shadeslayer> add the ppa and give it a spin, if something doesn't work out, come poke us at #project-neon
[17:33] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: you a maintainer? nice!
[17:33] <johnny_> ...gwibber gives a double tab in ff
[17:33] <Linkmaster> Though biased opinions are always welcome. My only question is, if it causes utter breakage, can I disable it?
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: yes, and hopefull we will have project-neon-calligra by 10th-12th :)
[17:34] <johnny_> when accessing sites
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: yes
[17:34] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: we have something called neon-clean that will remove all traces of neon
[17:34] <Linkmaster> cool stuff, let me add that ppa then
[17:35] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: w00t :D
[17:35]  * Linkmaster goes off to find it
[17:36] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: ppa:neon/ppa i'd say
[17:36] <slinker1> hmm you would think the linkmaster already knew the link :)
[17:36] <Linkmaster> I'll try that xD
[17:49] <paolinux> i reboot my pc...... see you later
[17:50] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: its https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa
[17:50] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: yes .... and?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: you could have done : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon :P
[17:50] <Linkmaster> well, I need to add it :P I tried yours, and thought konsole was being dumb with me, so then I went hunting around for the right ppa
[17:51] <Linkmaster> thats what I usually do
[17:52] <Linkmaster> hm, well, maybe I was wrong..
[17:53] <Linkmaster> Can you load up your KPK and tell me what the ppa is? -.-
[17:58] <Linkmaster> Got it! :D now...to wait forever for the download to complete
[17:59] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: I did: sudo apt-get install project-neon-kdeplasma-addons project-neon-session
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: you need more
[17:59] <Linkmaster> So its putting almost 700megs of stuff on my computer. This will take somet ime
[17:59] <Linkmaster> *time. oh? what else?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: for the slimmest install we have project-neon-base
[17:59] <shadeslayer> for the whole ppa we have project-neon-all
[17:59] <Linkmaster> Hmm...I can hit 'ctrl-c' without too much issues, right?
[18:00] <Linkmaster> I'll just do project-neon-all :D
[18:00] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: its downloading packages right?
[18:00] <Linkmaster> yea
[18:00] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: yeah you can Ctrl+C then
[18:00] <Linkmaster> It had to grab 200megs worth of stuff, haha. Time to put the new code
[18:01] <moes> Useable launchers dock for 10.04 lts ???
[18:01] <Linkmaster> moes: docky and daisy will definitely work, not sure about cairo-dock, it depends on what you like
[18:02] <Linkmaster> moes: daisy is real nice, because its a KDE widget
[18:02] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: Need to get 545 MB/546 MB of archives. After this operation, 1,362 MB of additional disk space will be used xDDD
[18:02] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: we use lzma compression for debs, so downloads are smaller, but the actual install contains all header files and such, so thats why the installed size is bigger
[18:03] <Linkmaster> that makes sense
[18:04] <moes> Linkmaster, Plasma-widget-daisy ??
[18:04] <Linkmaster> moes: I believe so, you can either grab the source and use the widget installer for that, or you can get it through the widget thing I think
[18:04] <Linkmaster> I dont think the 'p' is capitalized though
[18:04] <moes> that one found on synaptic
[18:05] <Linkmaster> alright
[18:05] <moes> thanks
[18:05] <Linkmaster> np
[18:31] <Joshun> hi. after installing some gtk apps, gnome icon theme is installed. this makes firefox look ugly with gnome icons, but if I remove the gnome-icon-theme package, it removes other apps as well. Is there any way around this?
[18:35] <Joshun> this is odd since under icons in system settings oxygen is still set as the default theme
[19:26] <mellin> Where do I change my settings for when I close the lid on my lappie?
[19:33] <Arv3n> anyone know how i can drag and drop shortcuts from kickoff to my desktop?
[19:44] <bibliotheque> hi guys, i m trying to get kubuntu working
[19:44] <bibliotheque> sorry i mean Urban Terror working under kubuntu,
[19:44] <bibliotheque> and no way
[19:46] <bibliotheque> WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: bind: Address already in use
[19:46] <bibliotheque> /home/bibliotheque/Downloads/UrbanTerror/ioUrTded.x86_64
[19:46] <bibliotheque> is executable, and executing it leads to this...
[19:46] <bibliotheque> no other
[19:57] <ilias> is there any chance to setup my pci winmodem which is on my motehrboard? i am using 10.04.
[19:58] <Peace-> mm
[19:58] <Peace-> !winmodem
[20:00] <ilias> i just want to setup it as fax
[20:53] <ReMatrix> Buonasera a tutti!
[21:27] <dalphi> I'm having trouble getting unity to properly start when launched from KDM 11.04 installations. I think I have the problem listed in the Bug #772486 , but the fix doesn't work for me. I get the unity background, but nothing else.
[21:30] <OerHeks> dalphi, is answer 3 do the fix for you ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/772486/comments/3
[21:31] <dalphi> setting GDMSESSION did not.
[21:31] <dalphi> I'd even be satisfied to get rid of unity all together, or setting the default to something else.
[21:32] <OerHeks> ow oke, maybe you could leave a reply this fix does not work for you ?
[21:32] <dalphi> my problem I guess is it's the default for my userbase, and so I need to get all my new users to choose something other than the default.
[21:33] <dalphi> Is there a way to configure kdm to choose ubuntu classic as the default?
[21:47] <ehsan> how to downgrade ntrack in kubuntu
[21:48] <ehsan> howto fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/ntrack/+bug/755608 in ntrack and kded 4
[21:50] <ehsan> how to fix ntrack
[21:53] <ehsan> i want downgrade ntrack to old version 009-1
[21:53] <genii-around> !info ntrack
[21:54] <genii-around> Hm
[21:56] <shadeslayer> hmm
[21:56] <shadeslayer> i remember something about ntrack
[21:56] <shadeslayer> something about how it was broken, and there was a upload to fix it
[21:57] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: its installing :D
[21:57] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: :D
[22:00] <soee> any news about 4.7beta packages ?
[22:01] <luis_> Hola a todos
[22:01] <Tm_T> soee: yes, beta1 skipped, concentrating on beta2
[22:01] <Linkmaster> soee: the only way is to use project neon I believe
[22:01] <soee> Tm_T, Linkmaster ok thank you
[22:01] <luis_> Hola alguien sabe como conpartir los escritorios de ubuntu en otro monitor
[22:01] <Tm_T> !es | luis_
[22:02] <Tm_T> !kppa | Linkmaster the betas would be available in one of Kubuntu ppas
[22:02] <DeltaEpsilon> is  it possible to sync my playlists to my android phone?
[22:03] <Tm_T> DeltaEpsilon: from Amarok?
[22:03] <DeltaEpsilon> Tm_T: if that is possible would be nice.. I donn't mind using another app
[22:04] <Tm_T> DeltaEpsilon: depending on several factors, it might be possible in some extent, but I think this is best served in #amarok
[22:14] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: it finished installing...now what? o:
[22:14] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: logout > switch sessions via KDM to project neon > login again
[22:14] <Linkmaster> okay, will do! lets see what happens..
[22:28] <Linkmaster> shadeslayer: its working :D
[22:29] <drbobb> is it possible to have different plasma panels in different kde activities?
[22:29] <Linkmaster> On my computer, it took forever to get started, and it was hanging every few seconds, but now that the system seems to have caught up[or has written everything to the swap...] its going along smoooth
[22:35] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: w00t
[22:35] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: try to start kontact and PIM stuff
[22:35] <shadeslayer> Linkmaster: come hang out in #project-neon ;)
[22:36] <Linkmaster> PIM stuff?
[23:00] <MajinSaiyan> Hi peeps. I have a .fxp file that i can't open because i don't have a program for it. I've googled it and i guess i need Microsoft's Visual FoxPro. Does anyone know of any other program that i can use to open the file? It doesn't matter if it's for Windows or Linux, but of course i prefer Linux.
[23:03] <Ddpbf> MajinSaiyan: are you sure it is M$ Visual FoxPro
[23:03] <Ddpbf> ther is 3 another types of .fxp
[23:03] <Ddpbf> files
[23:03] <MajinSaiyan> Well I am working with a SQL database, so i'm pretty sure that it is M$
[23:04] <MajinSaiyan> The database that i work with is only compatible with Windows
[23:04] <Ddpbf> aha
[23:08] <Ddpbf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_FoxPro#Recent_history
[23:09] <Ddpbf> aparently you could open it only in windows
[23:18] <MajinSaiyan> ahhh....i see. Bummer......then i guess i have to get it for Microsoft.....only problem is that it's over $600 :(
[23:18] <MajinSaiyan> Thanks for your help though
[23:19] <Ddpbf> you are wellcome
[23:32] <sirbeat> ciao a tutti
[23:33] <sirbeat> questa sera ho installato kubuntu 11.04
[23:34] <sirbeat> italiani
[23:34] <sirbeat> ci siete???
[23:36] <cablop> how can i set firefox as the default browser instead of Konqueror?
[23:39] <schraubschluesse> hey, which packages do i need to install unity on kubuntu? if i install 'unity' from the package sources i didn't see the launcher and the panel when i'm going to login
[23:40] <BajK> schraubschluesse: why would you ever want to do that?! :D
[23:41] <BajK> anyone else experiencing freezes in Quassel when hovering/clicking/whatveer links?
[23:41] <Ddpbf> cablop: go in system settings
[23:42] <schraubschluesse> BajK: because i didn't want to install 'ubuntu-desktop' with all the apps :P
[23:43] <BajK> schraubschluesse: no, i mean why not just use KDE :P
[23:43] <BajK> or install Ubuntu instead ^^
[23:43] <BajK> schraubschluesse: well, one look at the package manager listed "Unity" as "Unity is a destop experience that sucks er sings. Designed by Canonical blabla"
[23:43] <BajK> so sudo apt-get install unity should do it? :D
[23:44] <cablop> Ddpbf i did... it is not working
[23:44] <BajK> and you need to choose a different session on startp, othewise you will end up in KDE
[23:44] <schraubschluesse> BajK: well, i like to switch from kde and unity :)
[23:45] <BajK> (Manchmal versteh ich die Leute echt nich *kopfschüttel*)
[23:45] <schraubschluesse> BajK: and no, apt-get install unity didnt work right, if i choose 'ubuntu' in the session manager i end up with a blank desktop
[23:45] <BajK> hmm
[23:45] <BajK> mom
[23:45] <schraubschluesse> BajK: ja, so kommt mir das auch manchmal vor
[23:45] <schraubschluesse> :D
[23:46] <cablop> schraubschluesse: unity depends on compiz, so you will need to switch from Kwin to Compiz, then config everything again, then enable the unity plugin
[23:46] <cablop> schraubschluesse: anyway, i was seeing online many many complains against unity
[23:46] <BajK> maybe try gnome-session but I am not an expert :D try askng in #ubuntu ^^ still dont understand how one can throw the best desktop environment in the world away and use alpha software like Unity, but well, your decision, but dont whine ! :D
[23:46] <cablop> schraubschluesse: and also, unity is gtk based, not qt based, if you love options, stay away from unity
[23:46] <BajK> schraubschluesse: see. soo much stupid config work for a disfunctional desktop. just use KDE :)
[23:48] <cablop> schraubschluesse: and if you like options, stay away from gnome too, try some kde plasma widgets, they'll do the trick
[23:48] <schraubschluesse> cablop: ok, thanks. i'll try it on my old notebook first before i broke my desktop :D
[23:48] <cablop> schraubschluesse: unity seems to demand more graphics than compiz...
[23:49] <cablop> schraubschluesse: grab a live ubuntu cd and test it on that machine
[23:56] <Ddpbf> cablop: actually unity-2d is qt based
[23:58] <Ddpbf> unity 3d is in Vala i tink, it runs on top of gtk bundlle of apps but it is not gtk