/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/02/#ubuntu-accessibility.txt

=== gpc is now known as IdleOne
charlie-tcaI am trying the crashes in dasher again today 16:10
macodasher confuses me16:11
macoi tried it once, and it doesnt seem to be all that accurate about heading toward the letter i'm on top of. also, i couldnt figure out how to get it to put the letters i was chasing into the text box that had focus16:11
Pendulummaco: you need to start it from command line with dasher -a direct to get it to do direct input16:12
macoPendulum: i did16:12
Pendulumhuh16:12
charlie-tcaIam trying to use it 16:12
macoi thought maybe after ive finished the word there's something undocumented that i have to do to tell it to splat that out?16:13
macoalso, omg the letters fly around so fast i cant chase them16:13
charlie-tcait is not crashing for me16:13
macoare they supposed to all be lined up? the way you described it before, Pendulum, i thought itd be like a tag cloud style thing of letters16:14
charlie-tcachange the speed numbers to smaller numbers16:14
charlie-tcathey wont line up like you think 16:15
charlie-tcaand I can not get the punctuation working right16:15
Pendulumcharlie-tca: what's your problem with punctuation?16:16
macoi just chased down "All" and then there's a box, which i assume is space, but still, nothing's being put into where my text cursor is16:16
charlie-tcaapostrophes don't print16:16
macoi tried clicking the letters to tell it "no really this one!" but that just seems to pause it16:16
charlie-tcainstead of clicking, point at the next letter you want in the same colored box16:17
macosame coloured box?16:17
macothey appear to be nested coloured boxes16:17
macoive tried both with clicking and with just chasing16:18
Pendulummaco: what're you trying to input in?16:18
Pendulum*into16:18
charlie-tcaIf you are in a blue box for "h", don't go outside the blue to find the next letter. It should be another colored box inside that blue box16:18
macovi16:18
macoin a gtk based terminal, not a qt one16:18
charlie-tcaPendulum: apostrophes and returns in xchat are failing to show16:18
charlie-tcathis has a high lerningcurve 16:19
PendulumAttmittedly, I'm still on Maverick, but was mostly work for me16:20
Pendulum(until it crashed, but I suspect if I upgraded my dasher that wouldn't be a problem)16:21
macoim on maverick too16:21
Pendulum*working16:21
charlie-tcaitalso takes a lot of reen for me to use it 16:21
macois it supposed to input the letters as i chase them?16:21
macoor when it gets to a space, or what?16:22
Pendulumyes16:22
Pendulumas you chase them16:22
macoim trying in gedit now16:22
macooh hm. do i need to have at-spi registryd going?16:22
Pendulum< Pendulum> Attmittedly, I'm still on Maverick, but was mostly work for me16:22
Pendulum^^ was written in Dasher16:22
charlie-tcai am on natty Xubuntu 16:23
macokvkbd doesnt need it, so i didnt think dasher would, but maybe on screen keyboards do?16:23
macoor rather, *some* on screen keyboard?16:23
charlie-tcaI think you do need at-spi registryd, but can't remember16:23
charlie-tcaPendulum: the latest version of dasher does work better16:25
Pendulumcharlie-tca: I assumed as much. I've just been distracted by life stuff so not upgraded anything at all recently really16:26
charlie-tcaunderstandable. I worked some trying to reproduce the crashes, and even tried the version in git16:27
charlie-tcaFor me, dasher in natty has the least crashes16:27
charlie-tcaBack to writeing minutes from the meeting 16:32
charlie-tcaPendulum: help? I clicked something that made dasher full screen and had to kill it from a tty 16:40
charlie-tcahow do I make it not full screen?16:41
charlie-tcalol16:41
charlie-tcaWhat a deal ;-)16:41
Pendulumthat I have no idea on16:43
PendulumI've never made it fullscreen16:43
charlie-tcadon t16:43
charlie-tcaIt is not usable, since you can't see anything but dasher and can't change the app it is inputting to16:44
Pendulumyeah16:44
jonocharlie-tca, Pendulum hey20:16
jonowould you be interested in doing a Q+A about Accessibility?20:16
jonowe have these Friday Q+A sessions20:16
jonowould either of you like to do it/20:16
jono?20:16
jonoit would be on a Friday at 9.30am Pac time20:16
Pendulumcharlie-tca: be interested in co-doing it with me?20:17
charlie-tcasure20:17
charlie-tcaWhat friday?20:17
Pendulumjono: what friday?20:17
jonoPendulum, 17th June20:17
charlie-tcaPendulum: good for me20:18
jonowould you like to do it togehter?20:18
Pendulumjono: yeah, I think if we do it together, it's probably best20:18
jonoperfect20:18
jonothanks!20:18
* phillw asks what 09:30 Pac time is in UTC?20:31
Pendulumphillw: 16:30 UTC20:31
phillwthanks :)20:32
charlie-tcahuh?20:33
charlie-tca15:30, isn't it?20:34
charlie-tcait's 19:35 UTC now20:34
* phillw hmmm... can we decide? I'm terrible at TZ's :P20:43
Pendulum9:30 Pac time is 12:30 Eastern and 16:30 UTC20:44
phillw17:30 BST = 16:30 UTC, as long as I know - I turned up an hour late for a classroom session - worst bit was, I was holding!20:49
charlie-tcatry this one - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html20:53
macojono: there's a pattern to when these Q&As happen? id had teh impression it was "when jono says something in #ubuntu-community-team, followed by everyone else going 'huh?'" :P20:55
jonomaco, no pattern20:56
jonowell, there is a pattern, every week20:56
jonobut no pattern in terms of topics20:56
phillwcharlie-tca: I have it on my task-bar - the only way I can keep in sync with people!21:32
charlie-tcaThat's why I use orage world clock. I have 18 timezones on my desktop21:34
charlie-tcaphillw: http://imagebin.org/15651521:36
charlie-tcaTakes 1/2 inch across the top of my screen21:36
phillwPendulum: are you mad busy?21:39
Pendulumphillw: not mad busy at the moment, no, but I'm a little tired so my brain may not be fully working21:43
phillwI'll be gentle :)21:44
phillwcharlie-tca: you have mail :)22:59
charlie-tcaThank you. will be happy to advise23:22

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