[05:03] akgraner: around? [05:41] late night jcastro ? [06:00] sheesh I guess so [06:13] paultag! [06:13] nigelb! [06:17] nigelb! [06:18] hey cjohnston [07:00] I've had someone contact me about distributing Ubuntu as a part of a business venture (very sketchy on details without an NDA apparently) but they were wondering about the legalities about it all. They say they won't be charging for Ubuntu but rather the support of it and it sounds fine to me. To cover myself though I was wondering if there was a website or contact person I can refer them to with all the details abo [07:00] ut this sort of thing? === gpc is now known as IdleOne [08:57] good morning everyone!!! [09:10] morning everyone [09:20] hey kim0 [09:32] hey dpm, kim0 [09:34] morning nigelb [09:35] howdy nigelb dpm :) === koolhead11|away is now known as koolhead11 [10:05] Aloha [10:09] czajkowski: hey o/ [10:10] how's things [10:12] all going good [10:12] czajkowski: how about you [10:12] ntb thanks [10:12] trying to decide what to have for breakfast [10:13] that's a hard one indeed [10:14] indeed [13:21] popey: around? [13:23] jcastro: ya [13:23] the youtube setting in blip seems to have been unset [13:24] can you PM me the creds to the youtube channel? [13:24] the ubuntudevelopers channel? [13:24] yep [13:25] i suspect this is because last time I logged in it forced me to tie it to a google accoun [13:25] +t [13:25] so I tied it to jono@ubuntu.com [13:25] oh, hah [13:25] and told jono this [13:25] ok, so he has the creds? [13:25] hang on, lemme see [13:26] haha, it's waiting on a confirmation mail to jono@ubuntu.com [13:26] ok [13:26] "We have sent an email message to the address jono@ubuntu.com . Please access your email and visit the verification url provided in order to activate your Google Account." [13:27] not sure this is wise tbh [13:27] should create a new google account for this [13:27] lemme fix this.. [13:28] ok [13:29] "due to noise in this channel the community council has decided to shut down the ubuntu developer channel." [13:30] heh [13:36] jcastro: fixed the connection between blip and yt [13:37] jcastro: http://blip.tv/dashboard/distribution/youtube should work [13:37] thank you sir! [13:37] np [13:37] Zoiks! [13:37] "Jane Silber @silbs is now following you (@popey)." [13:41] no pressure ;) [13:44] * popey tries to think of something profound to tweet [13:45] (also in here...) [13:45] jcastro: way to speak the truth in that newsletter blogpost [13:45] heh [13:46] jcastro: indeed [13:47] funny headline [13:54] nice [14:15] heh [14:15] "the newsletter, putting Amber in the hospital since 2007" [14:21] :-P [14:34] akgraner: do you think that if I do more UWN stuff, it'll somehow get my neurosurgeon and then insurance off their asses so that I can be in the hospital too? ;-) [14:38] Pendulum, hehe [14:38] I wou;dn't suggest it [14:38] wouldn't even [14:39] hey I redid my blog [14:39] what do yall think [14:39] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/ [14:44] jcastro, thanks! [14:45] you speak so eloquently... and the sucking chest wound from the spear in my chest healed nicely I should say :-P [14:50] jcastro, I <3 you thanks for helping get the word out.... [14:51] heh [14:53] mhall119: nigelb: do you guys expect the QR code to summit to change? [14:54] I want to make sure we get the code on the tshirts for next time [14:54] well, isn't it linked to urls? So yeah, every UDS, it will chnage [14:54] so you can just say "what's up next" and qr code the person next to you [14:54] heh [14:54] I asked someone to do us an Ubuntu QR code... [14:54] can we make a canonical URL and QR code so that it doesn't change? And then just have summit forward to the right place? [14:56] I'll defer to mhall119, I never touched that code to say what's going on [14:56] http://popey.com/~alan/qr/Logo%20Centre%20Ubuntu%20QR.png [14:56] jcastro: In other good news, brainstorm is nuked from summit. [14:56] thats fun ☺ [14:56] http://popey.com/~alan/qr/Logo%20Ubuntu%20QR.png [14:56] also [14:56] popey: that's awesome [14:56] we should put that in it [14:56] put "summit" in the image [14:57] you can have up to 30% errors [14:57] oh dude [14:57] http://2d-code.co.uk/bbc-logo-in-qr-code/ [14:57] I'd like one like that [14:57] the current code just points to summit.u.c/mobile [14:57] where the logo is actually boxy [14:57] yeah, I was just about to say that [14:58] we could have one QR code pointing to /today. But that URL is now a canonical URL, but there's a bug to make it non-canonical so summits can run simultaneously. [14:58] s/But that/That/g [14:59] nigelb: for linaro right? [14:59] that would be ideal actually [14:59] the linaro shirt would have the linaro QR code [15:00] then depending on which schedule you want you approach the person with the proper shirt [15:00] lol [15:00] cue people running after developers with cameras [15:00] STAND STILL! [15:00] "You only want me for my QR code" [15:00] I think it's clever, right on the sleeve [15:00] nah, behind the shirt [15:00] really? [15:00] sleeve yeah [15:01] that way you can be not obvious about it [15:01] well, whatever, that's design's problem, our job is to not change it [15:01] and/or shoulder [15:03] jcastro: the current qr code points to the guidebook app [15:03] we wouldn't want that on shirts [15:03] right [15:03] we can make per-summit qr codes [15:04] we'd want the mobile url, which we can modify to use whichever app we're using that UDS (not hardcoded to Guidebook) [15:04] that either point to, say /uds-p/ or /uds-p/today/ [15:04] ok [15:04] so /uds-p/mobile [15:04] or something like that [15:04] why add the uds-p part? [15:04] why not just keep it /mobile and always have that page point to whatever the current UDS is [15:05] because we'd have /uds-p/mobile and /linaro-p/mobile [15:05] OH. [15:05] right, ok, sounds good. [15:05] let's do this then, when we announce UDS we'll generate the QR code [15:05] and then we bless it and that's that. [15:05] ok, file a bug for that feature? [15:05] sure [15:05] thanks [15:05] ,prmom [15:05] mornin [15:06] morning [15:06] I take it there's some library that makes summit generate a QR code trivial? [15:06] or is it hard? [15:06] jcastro: I have no idea [15:06] I would assume there's a website where we can do that [15:06] there is [15:06] there's millions of them [15:06] ive generated QR codes in an attempt to cross stitch them. turns out cross stitching a QR code takes ages [15:06] I am quite certain I've seen a python library, but whatever [15:07] there could be [15:07] jcastro: http://qrcode.kaywa.com/img.php?s=8&d=http%3A%2F%2Fsummit.ubuntu.com%2Fuds-o%2Ftoday [15:07] or well...like 15 hours for a 2.5" square [15:07] so... there's a php lib [15:07] goo.gl has one too [15:07] that's a whole new level of geekdom maco [15:07] I applaud you [15:07] no no [15:07] yes yes [15:07] that's a whole new level of geekdom to stitching [15:08] mhall119: i stopped after i did one row of the 30-ish x 30-ish QR code and multiplied by the time taken [15:08] pragmatic geekdom then [15:08] maco: you should start a startup that does that. For events, you order T-shirts and we give you t-shirts with qr codes! [15:08] jcastro: by QR on the shirt, is that just for track leads? [15:08] nah, everyone [15:08] stitching ascii is a lot easier. rows tend to be similar. QR codes are so randomised, you have to look at your pattern after every stitch or two [15:08] much more effective that meet and greet ;) [15:09] "oh hai there, I'm $foo, can I scan the qr code on your sleeve? Btw, what's your name?" [15:09] cjohnston: yes, thats what jcastro was talking about i think [15:09] im confused.. why do we want qr codes on the shirt [15:09] nigelb: they're not going to make different shirts for every attendee [15:09] yeah [15:09] jcastro: whoever had the idea of the map and magnets, BIG HUGS to them. [15:10] cjohnston: so everyone has the schedule handy [15:10] nigelb: yeah that was clever [15:10] jcastro: on everyones shirt? [15:10] kim0, the new cloud portal will rock ツ [15:10] it's the in thing, conferences have QR codes on shirts and all that noise [15:10] mhall119: No, I meant the social thing around qr code on T-shirts [15:10] daker: I'm sure it will :) [15:10] nigelb: but, if all the shirts have the same qr code... [15:10] http://androidspin.com/2010/05/18/google-io-t-shirt-qrcodes-secrets-revealed/ [15:10] WE CAN DO ALL SORTS OF CLEVER THINGS! ^^^ [15:11] "I wonder what session is on next? Come here Chris, *click*, thanks dude." [15:11] to me it doesnt make sense to put the schedule qr code on a tshirt.. i could see ubuntu links on a tshirt [15:11] but the schedule is only good for a week [15:12] yeah, I like that idea better [15:12] and then your wearing a shirt with a qr code that doesnt do anyone any good [15:12] hmm, good point [15:12] thats why im trying to figure this whole thing out [15:12] just put a sign on the door with a qr to the schedule [15:12] that way if you're wearing your shirt out, and someone random person standing in line behind you sees it, they can get the picture and it'll bring up ubuntu.com or something [15:12] or dont even do that.. just bookmark it on your phone... that would be quicker than opening up a qr reader [15:13] have it on the back of the shirt, and say something like "Find out what this is: $qrcode" [15:13] mhall119: thats what im talkin about.. a schedule is.. well.. very short term [15:13] so then someone comes up to you and they are like hey, whats this, and they go and the get a schedule that tells them nothing about anything [15:14] jcastro: are yall gonna do qr code contact info on the name badges? thats a good idea [15:14] that's not my area [15:14] but I think it would be awesome [15:14] yes it would [15:14] who is to bug? [15:14] I put it on my survey [15:14] michelle [15:14] michelle probably [15:14] so dude [15:15] I got it [15:15] darn..too slow [15:15] unless someone subverts this by changing their qr code to point to goaste? [15:15] launchpad profile urls would be neat [15:15] ^^^^^^ [15:15] +1 launchpad profile [15:15] popey: I was about to say rick roll or rebecca black... ;) [15:15] michelle already gets their irc name and nick and stuff [15:15] that too [15:15] oh lordy lordy [15:15] and they put it in a google doc [15:15] im thinking contact info.. that way you can shoot an email or store it [15:15] we have the launchpad ID in summit already (right?) [15:15] yeah [15:15] ya [15:15] yes [15:15] so we just need summit to generate the QR codes for each attendee [15:15] jcastro, dpm, kim0, heading out to a meeting, on my cell if needed [15:16] well, we have *a* launchpad ID in summit [15:16] which is in launchpad (the people who register for the sprint) [15:16] not always the correct one [15:16] nigelb: if lp.name == popey:\n\tQR.target = "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0" [15:16] jono, ok [15:16] jono: before you go: http://locodir.mhall119.com/ [15:16] as far as contact qr codes: you could just have a sticker printer of some sort at the registration table, and people could fill out their info there, and put the sticker on their badge [15:16] mhall119, nice! [15:16] ok so everyone have a think on how we'd do personal QR codes per person in a way that won't make michelle hate us. [15:16] that is awesome :-) [15:17] mhall119, great to see it evolving :-) [15:17] (and seconding the thanks to whoever had the idea of those id badges) [15:17] biab [15:17] yeah, bbl here as well. Stripping the deck. One love. [15:17] the only problem was the metal ring ripped out of the thing [15:17] oh I'm glad it wwas not just me [15:18] mine survived until I was taking it out of my bag at home, THEN it ripped -_- [15:18] jcastro: yes.. just need to laminate them [15:18] I had to tape mine like thrice to make sure it stayed in once piece till after friday's party [15:18] I think it happened to Daviey within like 5 minutes of him putting it on [15:18] and I laughed at him and then it happened to me [15:18] nice [15:18] haha [15:19] Daviey breaks everythig [15:19] +1 [15:19] I'd think that not everyone would WANT their contact info on a qr code on their badge (some of the more security/privacy paranoid folks), so that's why I'd think the sticker idea, also if someone had changed their info prior to the trip, or whatever else...I dunno [15:19] nigelb broke summit [15:19] Cheri703: i like the LP link idea [15:20] Cheri703: Thats why I suggested the LP page, as that is dynamically updatable. [15:20] LP lets you hide your email addresss, but still has a contact this user link [15:20] yeah, true [15:20] not the actual email address on everyone, but you are able to contact everyone from lp [15:20] cjohnston: No, I FIXED things while you folks were getting drunk ;) [15:20] no you didnt [15:20] and i have the proof... i have pictures [15:20] of YOU [15:20] lol [15:20] the problem with the printer idea is we'd need to bring like 5 of those things to each UDS and it would make registration suckier [15:20] we did that with the photo wall [15:20] mhall119: did you ever look at the "use laptop webcame as a qr code scanner" [15:20] O:-) [15:20] ah, true jcastro [15:21] which even back then didn't scale [15:21] mhall119: *idea [15:21] and now UDS is like 5 times bigger [15:21] Cheri703: nope [15:21] * mhall119 has has < 0 freetime since UDS [15:21] anyone want to write software to let you use your computer camera as a qr code scanner? If phones can do it, I'd think computers could too... [15:21] * Cheri703 was talking to mhall119 about this on the plane there :) [15:21] mhall119: there's a bunch of reviews waiting [15:23] Forever, there will be one question remaining after every UDS, "What was Keybuk thinking when he wrote summit, specifically render.py" [15:23] Cheri703: http://sourceforge.net/p/decodecamera/home/ [15:23] nigelb: no, after UDS-P the question will be "What was Nigel thinking when he re-wrote render.py?" [15:23] yup [15:23] oooo, I was looking ALL OVER for something like that, thanks mhall119 :) [15:24] I'm not sure if I want to rewrite it. [15:24] Its too sucky to think about rewriting. [15:25] nigelb: then the question will be "It's too bad Nigel didn't get sponsored, all because he wouldn't re-write render.py" [15:25] mhall119: haha [15:25] mhall119: But the thing is now, I understand render.py. [15:25] the loss of innocence [15:25] mhall119: you mean you are going to rewrite summit to ensure that nigelb doesnt get sponsored? [15:26] cjohnston: I have access to the box, I don't need to re-write anything to do that [15:26] lol [15:27] I'll just change his "Tell me why you should get sponsorship" to "Unity sucks, I'm switching to Arch!" [15:27] heh [15:27] mhall119: I'll make sure Daviey watches over everything you do on that box. [15:27] i bet he agrees with mhall119 [15:28] and may even beat mhall119 to the box [15:28] lol [15:28] mhall119: Are we deploying like mid-way through the cycle to test changes? [15:29] test? [15:29] that doesn't sound like summit development at all [15:29] I figure deploy when we have enough to deploy, and test when uds rolls around [15:29] ^ [15:30] < [15:30] let's try to unkeybuk this operation as much as we can [15:30] v [15:30] > [15:30] ;-) [15:30] cjohnston: where's that test box you were getting for us? [15:30] jcastro: ++ [15:30] I'm going to be setting up an ec2 instance for testing ISD projects [15:30] I'll just make ones for LD and summit too, and expense them [15:31] mhall119: can we have summit on there? [15:31] oh yay [15:31] also, when you guys are bored with ideas, steal everything you see on http://sched.org/ [15:31] this cycle, we're not using ideas, just making sure the castle of cards doesn't topple over. [15:31] jcastro: when your wallet gets too full, forward everything to me [15:31] or me [15:31] jcastro: sure, just as soon as you steal us some funding to hire developers [15:31] cjohnston: then we're going jetskiing [15:32] diving [15:32] you'll be diving, he'll be jetskiing all over you [15:32] heh [15:35] jcastro: did you see bugzilla's new theme? [15:35] Its going to look modern. [15:35] link? [15:36] * nigelb looks [15:36] jcastro: http://bugzillaupdate.wordpress.com/2011/03/31/winner-of-the-make-bugzilla-pretty-contest/ [15:39] looks nice! [15:41] I'd dare to say even better than LP. [15:42] man, John Gruber is lighting up my bugmail with all this lernid stuff he's working on [15:42] greg-g: another ubuntu-us-mi person making it happen. :) [15:44] jcastro: doesn't fool us. Until we have working versions across all versions of Ubuntu, we won't officially recommend it [15:44] give the man some time [15:44] :) [15:44] But I'm really glad there's someone instead of no one [16:09] +1 [16:50] http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/367768/asus-to-ship-ubuntu-netbooks === ara_ is now known as ara [16:59] yay [16:59] \o/ [17:00] aw, 10.10? [17:00] either get the latest 11.04 or the LTS 10.04 [17:03] meh, better than nothing [17:03] much better than nothing [17:06] true [17:07] but doesn't it also mean that the user will have a gnome-classic desktop with a notification that they should upgrate to 11.04 and then get a completely different desktop? [17:07] dunno, i would hope they do some testing ☺ [17:07] doesn't support for 10.10 finish soonish? [17:07] and they _will_ have consulted canonical on this [17:08] on the desktop, 12.04 [17:08] (is when it runs out. [17:08] s/./) [17:10] I might buy a couple for my kids [17:10] preloaded with flash [17:10] would need java too for minecraft ;) [17:11] i dont think the OEM agreement allows you to put non-free on it [17:12] from the article jorge linked "The Asus devices will come preloaded with Adobe Flash and Mozilla Firefox, as well as LibreOffice." [17:12] oh duh [17:12] thats surprising, nobody else is allowed to do that AIUI [17:13] you can't (or at least couldn't) install Skype and still say you're shipping "Ubuntu" [17:13] so either they're doing it without Canonical blessing (in which case they can't call it Ubuntu) or they're doing it with Canonical and the rules have changed === dpm_ is now known as dpm [17:45] paultag: where did you go [17:46] +1 [18:04] popey: that's interesting. I didn't know that. [18:23] jcastro: Ok, so I have this doubt. We have an icecast url field. Why don't we ever use it? [18:23] We end up with people asking why it isn't there :/ === robrt` is now known as robrt`` === robrt`` is now known as robrt` === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [19:14] czajkowski: computer kicked me off the network [19:14] czajkowski: back on my base station, good to chat if you are [19:14] jono: good day today, the merge proposals should be nice and clean tomorrow [19:14] fscking netbook's wifi card is iffy [19:14] dude andrea azzarone landed /3/ bugfixes today [19:14] the kid is on fire [19:15] paultag: glad to see you survived yesterday :P (I know you were far away from the action, but considering one of my FB friends just posted concerned about her Boston area friends I was starting to wonder if there was something I didn't know about!) [19:16] Pendulum: awww, gee thanks :) [19:16] Pendulum: I'm way far east now :) [19:16] Pendulum: I'm living the dream :) [19:16] haha [19:16] jcastro, awesome [19:16] paultag: on the cape? [19:16] jcastro, has the SRU shipped yet? [19:17] not for compiz [19:17] Pendulum: yes ma'am! It's awesome, so awesome. I've not talked with anyone using my voice in 3 days now. I think I'm a loner [19:17] jono: the unity one's in proposed, it sits in there for like a week and then like auto gets published or something like that [19:18] I'm just hunting for the cigars and one of the chaises, and I'll be in biz [19:18] paultag: aww. btw, if you're in Boston at all this summer we should get together! [19:18] Pendulum: I'll be up and down :) [19:18] :) [19:18] Pendulum: I'm heading up this weekend for a flight to SF [19:18] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/drag-and-drop-google-docs-uploader/ [19:18] fun [19:18] this launcher is absolutely phenomenal [19:18] Pendulum: business :) [19:18] heh [19:19] jcastro, cool [19:20] paultag: business can be fun [19:20] Pendulum: true, but this is an interview for a job, no play while i'm out there :( [19:20] aww [19:20] good luck with the interview! [19:20] Pendulum: thanks! [19:21] it' [19:21] it's a dream job * :) [19:21] :) [19:21] then extra good luck! I'll cross fingers for you :) [19:21] Pendulum: thanks!! :) [19:28] hey Pendulum! [19:28] hi nigelb === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [20:03] mhall119: I have an idea that needs some love. For consistansy's sake, it'd involve django and tons of stuff you built. If you can spend a few hours here and there with me, I'd return the favor by squashing some bugs on LD / team-reports [20:05] not asking for code or even maintaining anything, I just need some basic help to get my berings -- I know Python really well, along with the web markups / languages :) [20:06] jcastro, could you follow up with gord re. his action on http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-community.html ? [20:07] jono: already did, he's close, he's got a mp pending on it. [20:07] jono: it should resolve tomorrowish [20:07] awesome [20:17] jcastro, can I ask you to kick off the Q+A session tomorrow, I have three calls in a row around that time - Allison is doing it, so she knows the ropes [20:18] YA [20:18] hey are all the Q+As in the classroom calendar and all that now? [20:19]