[03:20] <rww> IdleOne: am assuming this one will last longer than 12 hours ;P?
[03:21] <IdleOne> rww: I thought maybe they would get the picture last time
[04:48] <rww> Flannel: yeah, they're now +b in #ubuntu instead of +q.
[04:49] <Flannel> I saw that, I assumed he thought you banned him from -ot when I kicked him
[04:53] <LiquidState> ubuntu ops yay yay
[04:54] <LiquidState> so
[04:54] <LiquidState> whats good
[04:54] <LiquidState> well?
[04:55] <Flannel> LiquidState: So, I found out why you were banned in #ubuntu.
[04:55] <LiquidState> ok
[04:55] <LiquidState> ow. I think a bug just bit my neck
[04:55] <Flannel> It seems you were being disruptive, and didn't respond well to people asking you to stop.
[04:55] <Flannel> In case there was any confusion about that.
[04:55] <LiquidState> seems that way huh
[04:55] <LiquidState> looks can be deceiving .
[04:55] <LiquidState> what is a turtle but a hawk in disguise
[04:56] <Flannel> LiquidState: Anyway, I'm going to agree with rww's suggestion that you come back in 24 hours or so, and we can discuss this more then.
[04:56] <LiquidState> why would I come back seriously
[04:56] <LiquidState> to talk to you about how you don't help people just enforce rules
[04:56] <Flannel> LiquidState: To talk about your ban so it can be resolved and removed.
[04:56] <LiquidState> I don't need it removed I can remove it my self
[04:56] <Flannel> LiquidState: If you feel that the rules weren't being enforced, we can discuss that at that time as well.
[04:56] <LiquidState> [obviously]
[04:57] <rww> As I've mentioned, that would violate network policy and is not a good idea.
[04:57] <LiquidState> the rules are always being enforced
[04:57] <LiquidState> thats not what I said
[04:57] <Flannel> LiquidState: No, ban evasion is not removing your ban, and I'd really prefer you didn't go down that path.
[04:57] <LiquidState> im not some griefer
[04:57] <LiquidState> I won't come back again
[04:57] <Flannel> LiquidState: You're right, that isn't what you said.  But regardless, come back and we can probably resolve it.
[04:58] <Flannel> LiquidState: If you feel that way, that's fine.
[04:58] <Flannel> Good luck in your future endeavors.
[04:58] <LiquidState> just know you guys really do suck.
[04:58] <Flannel> LiquidState: We'll keep that in mind.  Have a nice evening.
[04:58] <LiquidState> night.
[04:58] <LiquidState> but you know where I am located by now
[04:59] <LiquidState> night red pajama pants.
[04:59] <IdleOne> My pj'sa re blue
[04:59] <IdleOne> are*
[05:00] <rww> what pants is
[05:00] <IdleOne> pants is slacks
[05:00] <Flannel> rww: We call trousers pants.
[05:00] <IdleOne> or yeah trousers
[05:01] <Flannel> (and we call pants underwear)
[05:01] <IdleOne> basically pyjama pants are pyjama bottoms
[05:01] <Flannel> IdleOne: You assume rww sleeps clothed!
[05:01] <IdleOne> not all all
[05:01] <rww> that was the joke, yes ;P
[08:36] <ikonia> elky: to point out the anapnea shell terms and conditions that magizian is using
[08:36] <ikonia> * No usage of your Anapnea account to harrass a third party is allowed.
[08:36] <ikonia> therefor I have logged a complaint
[09:06] <ikonia> !ops
[09:06] <ikonia> oops
[09:06] <ikonia> sorry
[09:06] <ikonia> false
[11:45] <vibhav> am I unbaned??
[11:45] <ikonia> no
[11:45] <vibhav> :*(
[11:45] <ikonia> you are not banned
[11:45] <ikonia> you are muted in #ubuntu
[11:45] <ikonia> you are free to join
[11:46] <vibhav> :*(
[11:46] <ikonia> posting those faces won't get him anywhere
[11:46] <ikonia> I asked him to spend time in #ubuntu muted to watch how people offered/gave support
[11:46] <ikonia> he's not been in #ubuntu atll
[12:19] <ikonia> hello again vibhav
[12:19] <ikonia> vibhav: what can we do for you now ?
[12:20] <vibhav> ikonia, (I swear) I am going to USA tomorrow as a tourist , so I will have no IRC for 1 month....So I I can be unmuted now....
[12:20] <ikonia> no
[12:20] <vibhav> :*(
[12:20] <ikonia> if you are going to be out for a month, there is no need for you to be concerned about the duration of your mute
[12:21] <ikonia> talk to us in a month when you come back
[12:23] <ikonia> vibhav: the point of your mute is so you can sit in ubuntu and watch how help is given
[12:23] <ikonia> vibhav: so when you come back from your months holiday, you can spend a day or two muted in #ubuntu and we'll look at removing the ban
[12:23] <elky> heh
[12:24] <bazhang> was he the one claiming it was his mom?
[12:24] <ikonia> few seconds too slow
[12:24] <elky> His demonstrated capacity for learning makes me suspect no amount of sitting and watching is going to help
[12:24] <ikonia> no, he was just offering nonsense advice to people, just wanted him to watch how others help to get an idea
[12:24] <bazhang> ie after he was banned, and ban evading
[12:24] <ikonia> oh, I didn't see him say it was his mum
[15:06] <maco> i have to go to work. someone kick goiboi in -ot if they keep on
[15:24] <rww> maco: Thanks, now I'm getting PM abuse ;P
[16:36] <vibhav> hey ikonia
[16:36] <vibhav> I have a prob
[16:36] <vibhav> a BIG PROB
[16:36] <vibhav> any op here?
[16:36] <Pici> vibhav: Whats up?
[16:37] <vibhav> Pici,  I have a big prob , and I am muted on the channel
[16:38] <vibhav> bad ikonia
[16:38] <vibhav> :(
[16:40] <Pici> Sorry, having some computer issues here myself.
[16:41] <IdleOne> vibhav: What did ikonia ask you to do before he removes the mute?
[16:44] <jpds> Pici: How many times did you reboot it?
[18:19] <ikonia> hello theuser
[18:23] <ikonia> theuser: if you need to be in this channel I need you to respond please
[18:25] <ikonia> !idle | theuser
[18:26] <theuser> i don't understand
[18:26] <h00k> theuser: if you don't have any issues in here, please /part as this channel isn't for idling
[18:26] <h00k> slowpoke.jpg
[18:26] <ikonia> you don't understand....yet you did
[18:27] <rww> maybe you scared them off ;P
[20:06] <rww> ikonia: fyi, your banforward #38616 mask BajK!*@$#ubuntu-ops got turned into BajK!*@ during a netsplit and isn't valid anyway, hence BajK being in #ubuntu.
[20:37] <rww> I suspect that since it's been applied since March and nobody noticed it was broken that it's not overly important to keep.
[20:39] <jussi> rww: If the guy has managed to not act up since march, that says the ban shouldnt be there imho.
[20:42] <rww> jussi: Yup. I think we need to do a general ban review, personally. I don't believe that the 200 or so bans we have that are over a month old are all necessary.
[20:43] <jussi> rww: yeah, I agree. I wonder what the easiest way to go about it is?
[20:44] <rww> jussi: One obvious first phase would be to generate lists of bans for each op and ask them to review them. I could do that rather easily (and it'd work better than BT because BT has stale and missing entries)
[20:44] <jussi> rww: please do generate them. (Myrtti used to do this, but has long disappeared)
[20:47] <rww> Will do. Any particular format you'd like, or just a list of banmasks per person?
[20:53] <ikonia> rww: nice spot, thank you
[20:56] <rww> $size = scalar @{$ops{$op}};
[20:56] <rww> I have a headache.
[20:58] <ikonia> I can return to feasting
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Can we have the topic in #ubuntu+1 updated for alpha1? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-June/000853.html
[21:00] <rww> thanks charlie-tca, one sec
[21:00] <charlie-tca> sure. I am learning to make sure I got the announcement right, even.
[21:00] <highvoltage> f/win 15
[21:08] <Jordan_U> Is it just me or have there been a lot more people asking for support for *really* EOL releases recently?
[21:09] <Pici> Jordan_U: Well, dapper just went EOL a few days ago
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Pici: Oddly enough I can't remember any Dapper users, that would have been at least half reasonable. gahlberg in #ubuntu just asked about Breezy.
[21:11] <Pici> Jordan_U: Yeesh.
[21:11] <rww> Jaunty's come up a lot too.
[21:12] <Pici> The folks who manage the web facing archives sometimes don't actually move the repositories to old-releases until a while past the EOL date
[21:13] <Pici> If you want specifics, ping jpd-s
[21:13] <Jordan_U> What was the first release to actually warn you that you are using an EOL release instead of just breaking?
[21:15] <genii-around> The first one I recall doing that was 6.06
[23:35] <IdleOne> galaxy_999: 42
[23:35] <galaxy_999> ubottu already knows !42. was trying to see if it could answer without the !bang
[23:36] <galaxy_999> ubottu: silence you!
[23:36] <IdleOne> galaxy_999: ubottu only answers to commands
[23:36] <galaxy_999> :P
[23:36] <IdleOne> heh
[23:37] <IdleOne> if !command doesn't exist it then relays here because it thinks you are requesting !command to be added
[23:37] <IdleOne> or edited
[23:38] <galaxy_999> neat little "trick"
[23:39] <galaxy_999> so all the ubuntops have ubottu edit powers or only a select few?
[23:39]  * galaxy_999 maybe this is ot for this channel
[23:39] <IdleOne> most but not all
[23:43] <IdleOne> galaxy_999: if there is nothing else please don't idle in this channel.
[23:44] <galaxy_999> IdleOne:  fair enough