| andrejz | good morning | 07:57 |
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| trijntje | good morning people | 08:08 |
| dpm | good morning everyone! | 08:57 |
| RawChid | Good morning | 12:25 |
| RawChid | Anyone know how I can get/install podiff? | 12:27 |
| RawChid | Never mind, I found the script | 12:34 |
| RawChid | dpm, is it an idea to add podiff to the Translations Tools? | 12:34 |
| dpm | RawChid, yeah, it would be an idea, but I've never seen a fully working implementation of a podiff tool, so it might be a bit of work if you want to create it from scratch | 12:36 |
| RawChid | At the moment I'm looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~glatzor/podiff/main | 12:39 |
| RawChid | Looks like there isn't done anything about it in 5 years | 12:41 |
| askhl | Hello. TLE and I are working on something related to a 'fully working implementation of a podiff tool'. What would be the 'requirements' in order for it to be a fully working implementation? | 13:00 |
| askhl | RawChid, dpm ^ | 13:00 |
| askhl | (I.e. what are your specific needs?) | 13:01 |
| RawChid | I'm not yet familiar with the podiff tool. Just looking what it does at the moment. FYI, I'm working on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-l10n-tools and was wondering if we should add podiff to this project (keep all scripts in a central place) | 13:04 |
| askhl | I thought a podiff implementation was already part of that project | 13:06 |
| askhl | (I'll be back later) | 13:08 |
| dpm | RawChid, yeah, I'd be up for keeping podiff in ubuntu-l10n-tools. I was aware of the ubuntu-translator tools project, but I started a new one because I wanted to start from scratch and write all tools in python instead of having shell scripts. At some point though, when ubuntu-l10n-tools is stable and provides a superset of the ubuntu-translator-tools functionality, we should either unify both projects or disable one of them. | 13:21 |
| dpm | but before moving or forking podiff from ubuntu-translator tools, I'd ask glatzor for permission | 13:22 |
| dpm | he's the original ubuntu-translator-tools developer | 13:22 |
| dpm | he maintains aptdaemon these days, and he's usually in #ubuntu-devel | 13:23 |
| dpm | askhl, I don't have very high requirements on a diff tool for now. Just that I can do 'podiff -u ca.orig.po ca.po' and that it gives me some meaningful output :) | 13:24 |
| dpm | I remember you guys mentioned you were working on this. Can you remind me where the project is, and what its status is? | 13:24 |
| RawChid | Okay | 13:46 |
| askhl | dpm, https://launchpad.net/pyg3t | 14:02 |
| dpm | ah yes, thanks askhl | 14:02 |
| askhl | There's a big difference bewteen the stable version and the development version | 14:04 |
| askhl | should probably finish the ongoing changes and make a release... | 14:04 |
| dpm | RawChid, so perhaps you should talk to askhl and unify efforts on the podiff tool ^ | 14:06 |
| TLE | who said something about podiff | 14:08 |
| * TLE looks around | 14:08 | |
| TLE | *G* | 14:08 |
| RawChid | l | 14:10 |
| TLE | ahh, sorry I missed the start of the conversation | 14:13 |
| TLE | you need a podiff for something? | 14:13 |
| RawChid | Okay, Not really | 14:14 |
| RawChid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/616725/ | 14:14 |
| RawChid | In case you missed something | 14:14 |
| RawChid | I was wondering of we could add it to ubuntu-l10n-tools project. | 14:14 |
| RawChid | But now I understand you are working on that tool. | 14:15 |
| askhl | TLE, maybe it's time to finally release a new version | 14:15 |
| andrejz | wov. I just got data from provider of slovenian ubuntu mirror | 15:36 |
| andrejz | number of visitors has icreased by 40% compared to last year :) | 15:37 |
| TLE | dpm, RawChid: Ahh, I just catched up with the conversation. The podiff that is a part of pyg3t works (it is used quite a lot in the danish team) and it has a active maintainer (me). pyg3t as a whole is a pet project that Ask and I work on when we want to do some coding. It is pure python and has been written with maintainability in mind (e.g. with a separate po-parser that all modules use). If you want to include scripts I | 15:54 |
| TLE | askhl: Yeah maybe we should, it is just very bad timing as you know, I'd have way more time to do the cleanup after the changes in the parser in september | 15:55 |
| TLE | I mean to do the clean up properly | 15:55 |
| TLE | dpm: RawChid: In stead of including scripts back and forth we could also consider just sharing a PPA | 15:57 |
| TLE | afk 5 min | 15:57 |
| askhl | TLE, the only critical stuff is that the obsoletes should be handled properly. The parser is compatible with everything I think... | 16:00 |
| askhl | TLE, looks like the first (longest) of your messages may have been clipped | 16:00 |
| askhl | In any case, I don't think any cleanup is really required. | 16:01 |
| TLE | ahh I will paste it in parts: | 16:10 |
| TLE | dpm, RawChid: Ahh, I just catched up with the conversation. The podiff that is a part of pyg3t works (it is used quite a lot in the danish team) and it has a active maintainer (me). | 16:11 |
| TLE | pyg3t as a whole is a pet project that Ask and I work on when we want to do some coding. It is pure python and has been written with maintainability in mind (e.g. with a separate po-parser that all modules use). | 16:11 |
| TLE | If you want to include scripts I humbly think that it is a good place to start. We also have a tool for grepping in pofiles, for xml-checking in po-files and for looking for common errors | 16:11 |
| TLE | askhl: yeah, it was mainly podiff I would have liked to restructure, but that can wait, lets get together some evening and finish the migration to the new parser up and make a release | 16:12 |
| RawChid | Okay, thanks for the info. | 16:29 |
| dpm | Andre_Gondim, are you around? | 17:23 |
| dpm | I got disconnected a couple of times, so reposting this in case it didn't go through: | 17:24 |
| dpm | <dpm> TLE, yeah, it looks good. It looks to me that's already the best place for a podiff tool, since I understand that the aim is for the project to be generic, whereas right now ubuntu-l10n-tools is still a bit Ubuntu-specific (apart from the search tool). If you are interested in feedback, I do have a comment on the project: I'd suggest calling it something more readable than pyg3t, as it's not really catchy or easy to remember, and most import | 17:24 |
| dpm | antly, | 17:24 |
| dpm | it does not say what the project is about | 17:24 |
| TLE | PYthon GetText Translation Toolkit = pyg3t, and then you read it like py-get, ahh we thought it was so clever | 17:51 |
| TLE | dpm: ^^ | 17:51 |
| TLE | *G* | 17:52 |
| TLE | we'll think about it | 17:52 |
| TLE | anyway | 17:52 |
| askhl | There's a choice between googlability and legibility. It's one or the other | 17:52 |
| askhl | But I suppose a sufficiently obscure proper name would also do | 17:53 |
| dpm | TLE, yeah, I got it when I went to the LP page :) It's definitely clever, but it sounded a bit cryptic to me. Anyway, just a piece of feedback, I've been looking at the code and it looks nice | 17:53 |
| TLE | yes, the project is meant to be general | 17:54 |
| TLE | but since a ppa is fairly ubuntu centric I guess there wouldn't b a problem with sharing a PPA | 17:54 |
| TLE | who knows | 17:54 |
| TLE | in any case, maybe the most important thing is that we are still active, and interested in making it do cool stuff, | 17:56 |
| TLE | so we would be open to suggestions and feature requests as long as they fir within our ideas for the project | 17:56 |
| TLE | err: fit | 17:58 |
| TLE | have to reboot, be back in 2 min | 18:00 |
| TLE | ahh that felt better, I've been stuck in windows all day | 18:09 |
| dpm | I bet it's like getting out of the matrix ;) | 18:24 |
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