[15:14] eye of gnome does not respect the system umask. [15:15] seems to be hard-set to owner has rw. [15:15] exposed when rotating an image and then saving. [15:15] discovered when my wife was unable to view a random number of images on our home fileserver. [15:24] this in 10.04 LTS [15:38] er... seems to actually be a Gnome thing, not limited to eog. [15:44] Maybe setting umask in /etc/profile or each users .profile works. [15:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/241198 [15:45] do you guys think that performance for a virtual machine could be improved if you had a separate hard drive for it? [15:46] not if the separate hard drive is USB. [15:46] Is this KVM / libvirt ? [15:48] virtualbox [15:48] I would buy a separate hard drive bay for my precision laptop [15:49] If i/o contention is the issue, then adding another drive might help. But if it is slow because of some other reason, might not help. [15:51] Won't hurt. KVM gets better performance off "raw" partitions rather than file-based images stored on a file system. [15:51] Virtual Box I don't know. [16:18] danstoner, what do you mean by raw partitions? like if I just used /dev/sdb5 for that virtual machine? [16:18] I don't know if I can do that with virtualbox [16:19] DammitJim: yes, a raw block device (could be a partition, a logical volume, ...) [16:20] I don't think virtualbox io sucks in general, so it might be fine keeping images on a filesystem. [16:21] What are the performance issues you notice that led you to think adding a drive might help? [16:21] I just see this little hard drive light on ALL the time now that the VM is running [16:21] and everything on my host has slowed down, but CPU and memory doesn't look pegged [16:22] using any swap space? [16:22] no [16:22] what guest OS? [16:22] 7 [16:22] Windows 7? [16:23] yes [16:23] How much RAM did you give to the guest? [16:23] How much RAM in the host computer (your workstation)? [16:24] 2gb [16:24] 2gb [16:25] ? virtualbox let you give the guest 2 GB? [16:25] yeah, why? [16:25] with only 2 GB of real RAM in the system? [16:26] oh no, I have 4GB total, I'm sorry [16:26] ah. [16:26] any other vms running at the same time? [16:26] no [16:28] Your Windows 7 is already infected with malware. ;) [16:28] lmao [16:28] I actually wish for that [16:29] maybe it doesn't help that I have playonlinux running with powerpoint [16:29] Does it ever settle down? Windows does a bunch of stuff in the background but I would expect idle system would not keep the hard drive going. [16:29] I know it will, I mean.. I want to be able to let Visual Studio compile it's thing while I'm on LInux doing my thing [16:30] that's why I thought another hard drive would help... then I keep them separate [16:31] There is a good chance it will help, but depends on where the bottleneck really is. [16:34] Are all of the files the windows vm uses local to the machine (e.g. not talking to a fileserver somewhere)? [16:34] right now... all local [16:36] If I had to solve your issue without spending money, I would try changing the virtual storage controller. [16:36] If I could bill someone for the hd, I'd buy the hd. [16:37] Here is (possibly) how to use raw disk: [16:37] http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk [16:39] I always used "fixed-size images" rather than dynamically expanding images. [16:39] http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch05.html [16:42] interesting... this time I decided to go with a dynamically expanding image [16:43] KVM also has really crummy performance with disk images on ext4 filesystem. So if you get a second drive, use bare storage or a better filesystem. [16:45] You could also try changing i/o controller from SCSI to IDE or vice versa. [16:46] the controller is a SATA controller now [16:47] thanks for the link, though... looks promising to do a raw disk [16:49] I just took away 1 CPU from the VM... let's see how the host behaves [16:49] like I said... I don't care as much as the Windows VM as I do of the linux host === RoAkSoAx is now known as andreserl === andreserl is now known as RoAkSoAx === roaksoax__ is now known as andreserl