[00:10] <greg-g> man, so much discussion I missed today during work :)
[00:37] <brousch_> stop working so hard
[00:45] <greg-g> brousch_: sorry, I'll work harder on... dangit!
[00:45] <rick_h_> doh
[00:45] <rick_h_> poor greg-g can't win
[01:16] <snap-l> heh
[02:12] <brousch_> anyone want an irccloud invite?
[02:12] <snap-l> I'm good, thanks.
[02:13] <brousch_> d00d. it's irc
[02:13] <brousch_> in
[02:13] <brousch_> the
[02:13] <brousch_> cloud
[02:13] <snap-l> still good. ;)
[02:15] <greg-g> I've got irc in my personal cloud
[02:16] <brousch_> wrong. it's not the cloud unless it's html5
[02:18] <rick_h_> irc + html == fail
[02:18] <brousch_> it's really pretty good
[02:19] <brousch_> what did you use for irc on the cr-48?
[02:22] <brousch_> oh, apparently catherine devlin was lurking on the grpug email list. she saw me mention a presentation and now i'm really on the hook
[02:22] <jjesse_> whose catherine devlin?
[02:22]  * jjesse_ is stupid
[02:23] <brousch_> jjesse: organizer of pyohio
[02:24] <rick_h_> She's come out and given some talks in A2 and such as well
[02:24] <rick_h_> OLF fan
[02:24] <greg-g> yeah, good gal
[02:29] <brousch_> ok, my goal is a blog post and pyohio proposal tonight
[02:29] <brousch_> quit distracting me
[02:29] <rick_h_> widox: http://uploads.mitechie.com/index.html
[02:31] <rick_h_> http://unserializableone.blogspot.com/2007/09/simple-directory-browser-for-amazon-s3.html
[02:34] <rick_h_> https://gist.github.com/1003755
[03:20] <jrwren> snap-l: there is linux sunray server stuff.  you get it rollin yet?
[03:20] <brousch_> hm, hit my first snag with chromeos. how to edit a rst file?
[03:21] <jrwren> vim?
[03:21] <jrwren> nano?
[03:21] <jrwren> joe?
[03:23] <brousch_> it's a web browser
[03:23] <brousch_> no java
[03:23] <brousch_> no shell
[03:26] <brousch_> ah, sent it to dropbox and then i can edit it in sourcekit
[03:26] <jrwren> surely you can get a shell?
[03:29] <brousch_> i don't think so
[03:30] <brousch_> ok, found a shell
[03:31] <brousch_> no nano or vi though
[03:32] <_stink_> sed?
[03:32] <brousch_> it has ssh, so you can edit stuff on remote servers
[03:33] <brousch_> which is consistent with the chromeos philosophy
[03:34] <brousch_> i'll have to make a little file dump on dreamhost where i can plop things and then ssh to edit them with vim
[03:39] <brousch_> oh, nice. i can make windows and switch between them using alt+1 - alt+0. this means i can organize pretty much how i do in osx and linux
[03:40] <brousch_> ctrl+1 - ctrl+0 switches between tabs in the current window
[03:51] <snap-l> jrwren: Not yet.
[03:52] <snap-l> I gave it about 15 minutes of fiddling
[03:52] <snap-l> But yeah, I think I'll set up pa VM and get the oracle server running
[03:59] <rick_h_> brousch_: src:kit app is great
[04:00] <rick_h_> ah, nvm you found it as a catch up
[04:00] <brousch_> quite nice
[04:00] <snap-l> brousch_: The shell / terminal that ships wth ChromeOS is pretty rough
[04:00] <brousch_> and uses dropbox, so all the docs are synced to my desktop/laptop
[04:00] <rick_h_> you can unlock it and get access to a better terminal and even some better ssh
[04:01] <snap-l> Part of the reason I couldn't deal with it.
[04:01] <rick_h_> brousch_: yea, I used src:kit for doing notes at pycon
[04:01] <rick_h_> create rst files, and then when I went to do my podcast, they were on my main laptop
[04:01] <rick_h_> supposedly it's gotten better, I saw a commit that it supports ssh keys now
[04:01] <brousch_> ok, well i got the blog post out and half of the pyohio proposal typed up. i'm calling it a night
[04:01] <rick_h_> awesome
[04:01] <rick_h_> let me know if you need a hand with the pyohio stuff at all
[04:02] <brousch_> it seems pretty easy
[04:02] <rick_h_> I'm out myself, night
[04:02] <brousch_> nedd to sleep on the extended description and outline
[04:02] <snap-l> rick_h_: orly?
[04:02] <snap-l> That was a big bugaboo for me
[04:03] <snap-l> OK, off to do some dishes. Laterness, everyone!
[12:27] <rick_h_> I'm going to citizen's arrest you all for sharing pandora account passwords: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/06/02/0342220/Tennessee-Makes-it-Illegal-To-Share-Your-Netflix-Password
[12:32] <rick_h_> snap-l: watched the win8 video...it has tiling! lol
[12:38] <greg-g> :P
[12:40] <brousch> finally, a mainstream window manager for rick_h_!
[12:41] <brousch> meating, bbl
[13:14] <greg-g> I find it interesting how my right click menu in gnome-terminal is unavailable when firefox locks up
[13:45] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, heard that password sharing thing on NPR last night. That's just dumb.
[13:45] <greg-g> jcastro: way to speak the truth in that newsletter blogpost
[13:45] <snap-l> rick_h_: That Windows 8 video goes against everything I've ever loved about the desktop interface
[13:46] <snap-l> I think the best metaphor is the cluttered board behind the screen.
[13:47] <snap-l> It's too cluttered.
[13:47] <rick_h_> come on, we all knew the start menu would need a breakout box at some point
[13:47] <rick_h_> not like windows is going to launcher style
[13:47] <snap-l> The computer now looks like the fucking weather channel
[13:49] <snap-l> It also looks grafted
[14:04] <ColonelPanic001> it amuses me that I frequently, daily, hear a word processor in this office
[14:04] <greg-g> what is it saying?
[14:05] <ColonelPanic001> beep beep beep beep
[14:08] <_stink_> yeah, we should publicly shame whoever uses it
[14:20] <ColonelPanic001> or should
[14:22] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/06/01/open-metalcast-special-announcement/
[14:36] <snap-l> Yay, getting Internet Explorer 8 on my machine
[14:36] <snap-l> along with a warning that not all company applications are compatible with INternet Explorer 8
[14:36] <snap-l> At least someone is trying to rip the band-aid off.
[14:37] <rick_h_> IE8? Haven't you heard...that's old
[14:38] <rick_h_> <3'd that Google is deprecating IE7 on google apps
[14:43] <snap-l> Hey, at least someone is trying to get us out of this mess.
[15:12] <brousch> i had no idea there was a weekly ubuntu newsletter
[15:42] <krondor> firesheep for android http://faceniff.ponury.net/
[16:28] <snap-l> brousch_: Yeah, it's been kicking for a while now
[17:52] <PainBank> anyone try out the Meego distro?
[17:54] <Blazeix> I tried it out a few months ago. it's pretty slick
[17:55] <PainBank> what hardware?
[17:55] <Blazeix> eee pc s101
[17:56] <Blazeix> atom cpu
[17:56] <PainBank> cool, thanks.  easy to install?
[17:57] <Blazeix> yeah, very easy. they provide a usb stick image.
[18:17] <PainBank> i'm at IESF - a 1 day conf hosted by Mentor Graphics and there is a bit of talk about Linux in the future in vehicles.
[18:17] <PainBank> GENIVI.org seems to be a user group focused on this.
[18:22] <snap-l> Apparently Borders is moving all of their eBooks over to Kobo
[18:22] <snap-l> The confusion between the two must've been way too much
[18:24] <rick_h_> from what?
[18:24] <rick_h_> what was the other reader? sony?
[18:24] <snap-l> Borders had their own storefront
[18:25] <rick_h_> oic
[18:25] <snap-l> and the readers sold by Borders went to that storefront
[18:25] <rick_h_> that's a good thing for kobo
[18:25] <snap-l> they're sending an update which will likely send that over to Kobo now
[18:25] <rick_h_> their new reader is getting rave reviews, but the store side is still something that holds me back from one of them
[18:25] <snap-l> Well, it's pretty stupid to have two separate apps
[18:25] <snap-l> Esp if you use the iPhone app
[18:26] <snap-l> We'll see how this works
[18:26] <snap-l> They already had me merge my library
[18:26] <rick_h_> cool
[18:26] <snap-l> which means I have access to the one book that I bought from Kobo as an experiment with the Sony
[18:27] <snap-l> I'm one of their best eBook customers, though, even though I bought only two eBooks from the Borders store. ;)
[18:27] <rick_h_> lol
[18:27] <snap-l> One stross book (just to see how it worked) and JoDee bought a Dr. Who book.
[18:27] <snap-l> Sorry, Doctor Who. ;)
[18:28] <snap-l> Apparently there's several updates since I last turned on the wireless. :)
[18:29] <rick_h_> http://www.i-programmer.info/news/87-web-development/2517-google-webrtc-browser-based-communications.html
[18:29] <snap-l> Interesting, but not too hopeful
[18:30] <snap-l> http://www.kobobooks.com/touch_readinglife
[18:30] <snap-l> Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
[18:31] <greg-g> hey man, badges are the new thing. everyone likes them, even rick_h_ !
[18:31] <rick_h_> hah! gamification time
[18:31] <rick_h_> yea, I missed the boy scout phase to get badges then
[18:34] <snap-l> Third update.
[18:35] <rick_h_> heh, see how much better your device could have been?
[18:35] <rick_h_> gotta do the updates :P
[18:35] <snap-l> Apparently.
[18:35] <snap-l> Fourth update.
[18:35] <snap-l> Wonder if I'm in an update loop
[18:37] <greg-g> what are you updating?
[18:38] <greg-g> ah e-reader
[19:10] <snap-l> I've lost count on the upgrades
[19:10] <snap-l> I think it's up to 8 or so
[19:11] <snap-l> They rolled out 1.9, and I was on something like 1.7
[19:11] <snap-l> with a bunch of minor upgrades along the way.
[19:17] <snap-l> Yeah, this thing is just caught in a loop
[19:17] <snap-l> it's not updating shit
[19:21] <rick_h_> uh oh
[19:42] <snap-l> Yeah, did a reset on it to see if that takes care of it
[19:42] <snap-l> of course that means I have to type in all of my passwords again
[19:42] <snap-l> yippee
[19:43] <snap-l> probably ran out of room.  :)
[19:43]  * snap-l runs a tight ship on his ereader.
[19:44] <rick_h_> you have password(s) on your ereader?
[19:44] <snap-l> Well, this inspector has about 15 minutes to get here
[19:44] <snap-l> yeah, for the store and wifi
[19:44] <rick_h_> inspector?
[19:45] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[20:42] <brousch> rick_h_ snap-l would you mind taking a peek at my proposal to make sure i'm not being stupid? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/cfp_template_2011.rst
[20:42] <brousch> this is my first conference talk
[20:46] <rick_h_> looks good,
[20:47] <snap-l> Great, now I'm able to kill my kobo with the Learning Python epub book
[20:47] <brousch> python won't run on kobo
[20:47] <rick_h_> well I think it is the largest python book known
[20:48] <snap-l> THing is it was able to run just fine beforehand
[20:49] <snap-l> fucking piece of shit
[20:49] <rick_h_> should send them an email :)
[20:49] <snap-l> Yeah, that'll be productive
[20:49] <rick_h_> maybe they can get you one of the newer models
[20:49] <rick_h_> for a small $ee
[20:49] <brousch> they'll send you a $10 gift card for borders
[20:49] <brousch> ok, sending in the proposal
[20:50] <rick_h_> "not valid with any other offer, or on days that end in 'Y'"
[20:50] <rick_h_> brousch: awesome!
[20:50] <rick_h_> I'll try to help support you when the flames come in :)
[20:50] <brousch> haha, thanks
[20:50] <rick_h_> with gondor.io, heroku, etc the concept of the "server > cloud" is going to raise some fur
[20:51] <brousch> i saw a note last night that they've only gotten 6 proposals so far
[20:51] <rick_h_> yea, was just checking in there
[20:51] <rick_h_> he said they had 12 at this point last time
[20:51] <brousch> well i'm not saying don't use the cloud, just use a regular old server until you need the cloud
[20:51] <rick_h_> kind of crazy, they grew nearly 2x each year...wonder what's up this year
[20:52] <brousch> a good question
[20:55] <brousch> crap, i forgot to request that i not be put up against rick_h_. i really need the sqlalchemy tutorial
[20:58] <brousch> now i need to dive into more Flask so i'm better prepared
[22:52] <TeamXlink> Today at school the pc repair teacher was giving out parts, and one of the things I got was a Compaq DeskPro EN (Small Form Factor Version), As of now, it has a 133mhz Pentium III And  384mb RAM, I want to use it to host a game server, most likely a Warsow, or Quake III Arena server. Which Distro should I use, its going to be a dedicated server, a gui is not needed (Not wanted either).
[23:07] <snap-l> You could probably put something like Ubuntu Server on that
[23:07] <snap-l> though I'm not sure how much memory that would need.
[23:13] <TeamXlink> Alright, sweet, thanks.
[23:17] <_stink_> last i tried a stock ubuntu server install, it ran fine with 256 MB RAM
[23:18] <TeamXlink> Should I use the latest version?
[23:27] <snap-l> I'd stick with something like 10.04
[23:38] <TeamXlink> Alright, sweet thanks.