[04:25] <andantino> #xubuntu must be the monastic distro
[04:25] <andantino> xubuntu*
[04:26] <MK`> what are xubuntu's HDD requirements?
[04:27] <charlie-tca> with the alternate cd, 2.5GB; with the desktop cd, 4.4GB
[04:28] <andantino> what is the alternate cd?  a net install with package selection?
[04:28] <charlie-tca> nope
[04:28] <charlie-tca> a text-based installer instead of the gui
[04:28] <andantino> ah
[04:31] <MK`> Alternate also allows you to use full disk encryption
[04:31] <charlie-tca> yes
[04:42] <MK`> is 5GB enough for Xubuntu?
[04:42] <MK`> for /
[04:43] <charlie-tca> yes, anytime
[04:44] <charlie-tca> If you wait about three minutes, I can tell you what it installs at, even
[04:44] <MK`> yeah
[04:44] <MK`> please heh
[04:44] <charlie-tca> I have a fresh install rebooting now
[04:45] <GridCube> :D i installed one of my tests on 3,5gb
[04:46] <MK`> and, if you can tell me the size of /boot separately, that'd be great
[04:48] <MK`> I wanna partition this correctly heh
[04:50] <charlie-tca> Looks like the entire installation took 1.88 GB
[04:50] <charlie-tca> Allowing for new files, tmp files for updates, etc, plan at least 3GB?
[04:51] <MK`> This is an 80 GB HDD, has windows on it, 15 GB free
[04:51] <MK`> hm...
[04:52] <charlie-tca> boot = 22.9MB
[04:52] <charlie-tca> 15 is plenty
[04:52] <MK`> well I know windows needs some leg room
[04:52] <charlie-tca> You don't really need a separate boot
[04:53] <charlie-tca> I have installed in 3GB, but I usually give /swap 1GB too
[04:53] <MK`> hm
[04:53] <MK`> Should I get rid of Windows XP?
[04:53] <charlie-tca> not until you are sure you don't want/need it
[04:54] <MK`> The *sole* thing people here use on Windows now is iTunes
[04:54] <charlie-tca> I haven't used windows in ?? years now. I did buy windows 3.1 when it came out
[04:54] <MK`> lemme see if you can buy from itunes without the client
[04:55] <charlie-tca> You might be able to use Rythmbox for it
[04:55] <MK`> I mean the iTunes Store
[04:55] <charlie-tca> do a install, with 4 gb root, 1gb swap, 5 gb /home
[04:56] <charlie-tca> That will let you play with it and see if you like it
[04:56] <charlie-tca> It is also faster than the live cd
[04:56] <MK`> I've tried Rythmbox, Amarok, etc. they're nice
[04:56] <MK`> hm
[05:00] <MK`> the PC has 1.5GB ram, is 1GB swap advisable?
[05:02] <GridCube> it won't harm you
[05:02] <MK`> Also... This PC has a 5GB OEM backup partition. What can I use to make a partition image for backup?
[05:04] <GridCube> mmm i used déjà vu once, worked pretty well
[05:04] <GridCube> but don't really know
[05:04] <GridCube> déjà dup
[05:06] <MK`> hm
[05:07] <GridCube> i used it to store a backup of a w7 then formated and restored and everything worked, almost
[05:22] <TheCheggs> Hey guy's, I am really sorry to bother but i have a question. How would I go about installing a custom theme?
[05:24] <GridCube> mmm
[05:26] <GridCube> you could ahm download a theme, uncompress it anywhere and then unpack it, "sudo mv" it to /usr/share/themes and then change the theme in the appearance dialog
[05:26] <TheCheggs> hmm alright let me try that out :) thank you
[05:26] <GridCube> ok i sayd uncompress and unpack, thats some recursivitu right there
[05:30] <TheCheggs> hey that worked!
[05:30] <TheCheggs> thank you very much :D
[05:30] <GridCube> :D
[05:30] <GridCube> you are very welcome
[05:31] <GridCube> also be never sorry to ask questions
[05:31] <GridCube> :)
[05:31] <TheCheggs> alright :)
[07:16] <jozefk> o/
[07:17] <jozefk> I don't see how to change the user image in xfce
[07:19] <TheSheep> jozefk: save it as .face
[07:20] <jozefk> ~/.face?
[07:20] <TheSheep> yes
[07:21] <jozefk> no .png no .jpg no nothing? just .face that's it? :)
[07:21] <jozefk> what about the size?
[07:23] <MK``> file extension is for the human :P
[07:25] <jozefk> yeah. linux is often smart enough to know what kind of file it is. I had a movie without extension at all and linux just open it in video player :))
[07:28] <MK``> Yeah, good software will detect the type of the file by looking at it
[07:29] <MK``> I know a few websites that will only let you upload .jpg for avatars, but you can just rename a png to .jpg and it will accept it
[07:29] <MK``> Relying on the extension is a security risk
[07:33] <jozefk> yeah. about websites I know. it was always stupid for me. yeah that's also true. you can rename .zip to .jpg and upload it for example :)) I did that sometimes and it worked also
[10:01] <rojaa> greetings
[10:02] <rojaa> anyone have any luck installing new icons on xubuntu?
[12:16] <plantoschka> is it possible to have "aero-snap" in xfce? Unity, Gnome3 and KDE offer this.
[12:20] <plantoschka> that looks nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAc6vc93jxc possible in xubuntu?
[12:32] <TheSheep> plantoschka: no, unless you use a different window manager
[12:57] <goutbulgare> bonjour
[12:58] <bazhang> !fr | goutbulgare
[12:58] <goutbulgare> hi, i need some help after installing xubuntu
[12:59] <goutbulgare> some help for a graphic card radeon and a minipci wifi module
[13:01] <goutbulgare> humm
[13:01] <goutbulgare> well
[13:03] <goutbulgare> i think my cpu support all graphic charge, how can i be certain that the driver is correctly working for my radeon?
[13:03] <bazhang> !wifi | goutbulgare
[13:03] <goutbulgare> is there any checking test or something?
[13:04] <goutbulgare> oookey; an dfor the wifi, i installed it bay the ndiswrapper system, it says tha the module is present, but i dont see it in ifconfig, how can i check it?
[13:07] <goutbulgare> the video is lagging
[13:23] <plantoschka> copy&paste in eclipse is only working occasionaly :(
[14:06] <Superbest> I'm gonna install xubuntu from a usb drive, what do I do with the iso's I download?
[14:06] <Superbest> oh is it unetbootin?
[14:07] <charlie-tca> use unetbootin to put the iso on the usb drive
[14:07] <Superbest> ok, I'd forgotten all about it, heh
[14:09] <docteri> I can't seem to find the menu to launch "Password and Encryption Keys" so I can manage Gnome Keyring, and I don't know the Default password. Running 11.4. Any clues?
[14:09] <charlie-tca> docteri: should be in Menu -> Settings
[14:09] <charlie-tca> If not, install seahorse
[14:10] <docteri> Aha, thanks
[14:10] <docteri> (need to install seahorse, apparently)
[14:13] <jozefk> usb never worked for me
[14:37] <gynter> Hello, cat xubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso > /dev/sdb should work fine to make usb install memstick?
[14:38] <charlie-tca> Not to my knowledge
[14:40] <charlie-tca> use unetbootin
[14:42] <jozefk> use external DVD rom
[14:42] <jozefk> :)
[14:42] <gynter> but first I need to make a partition?
[14:43] <charlie-tca> jozefk: not at all helpful
[14:43] <jozefk> he will save time
[14:43] <charlie-tca> gynter: unetbootin should take care of it for you
[14:43] <jozefk> it should but for me it didn't
[14:43] <gynter> thats too bad, that cat'ing doesn't work... works fine for debian netinstall thou :)
[14:44] <Sysi> works for almost every other distro.. not *buntu
[14:45] <jozefk> maybe dd would work for ubuntu :)
[14:45] <Sysi> nope
[14:46] <Sysi> shouldn't work and i've never heard it to work
[14:47] <gynter> hmm, but i have only 10.04 in unetbootin
[14:47] <jozefk> maybe that's why it didn't worked for me too
[14:47] <Sysi> download .iso and use it
[14:48] <gynter> should I specivy /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1?
[14:48] <Sysi> sdb
[14:49] <Sysi> oh, sdb1 for unetbootin
[14:50] <Sysi> can't remember how it represents partitions/devices
[14:51] <charlie-tca> iso is some kind of compressed image, isn't it?
[14:51] <Sysi> more like virtual disk image, like you can have virtual machines
[14:52] <Sysi> virtual filesystem, you can mount .iso
[14:56] <gynter> Didn't work, eg doesn't boot
[14:56] <gynter> just blinks "_"
[14:57] <gynter> Used unetbootin and image
[15:04] <gynter> Any other suggestions :) ?
[15:08] <knome> use the usb disk creator.
[15:10] <gynter> I'm not on Unbuntu :)
[15:22] <knome> i don't know then. can you use a cd burner software + a cd?
[15:23] <gynter> no
[15:24] <gynter> 1 more try and then i'll go with debian :P
[15:40] <gynter> Xubuntu uses same installr as Ubuntu, right?
[15:41] <charlie-tca> yes
[15:45] <gynter> Do I really have to install Ubuntu or Windows to create bootable Xubuntu pen drive :P ?
[15:46] <charlie-tca> nope
[15:47] <charlie-tca> If you have xubuntu installed, just install unetbootin or usb-creator and use them
[15:47] <mnemoc> gynter: you can buy one from on-disk.com ;-)
[15:47] <gynter> I have debian
[15:47] <gynter> And using Unetbootin didn't work
[15:47] <charlie-tca> hm, maybe ask in #debian if there is such a channel, how to do it in Debian?
[15:50] <gynter> Hm, k never mind, I'll just install debian with xfce then :)
[16:54] <GridCube> !info blueman
[23:19] <superbest> hi
[23:20] <superbest> so I have one mouse (a4tech)
[23:20] <superbest> but xubuntu thinks I have two
[23:20] <superbest> any ideas why?