[00:09] <ton1n8o> hello
[00:11] <Linkmaster> hey
[00:11] <ton1n8o> is there someone here?
[00:11] <ton1n8o> =)
[00:11] <Linkmaster> Yurp
[00:11] <ton1n8o> hey Linkmaster Im new here
[00:12] <ton1n8o> Im from Brazil =) and Im a developer
[00:12] <Linkmaster> alrighty, you have a question?
[00:13] <ton1n8o> I intend to build some feautre to some software evince
[00:13] <ton1n8o> an pdf reader
[00:13] <Linkmaster> Then do it! nothings stopping you
[00:13] <ton1n8o> =)
[00:13] <ton1n8o> thats great hehe
[00:14] <Linkmaster> Theres a few of them out there, inlcuding one shipped with Kubu, but you can still make one and distribute it...anythings better then adobe >.>
[00:14] <ton1n8o> but Im here to check if is there someone that can provide me some info about the evince
[00:14] <Linkmaster> I don't really know waht a evince is :P
[00:14] <Linkmaster> !evince
[00:14] <ton1n8o> let me show you
[00:15] <Ddpbf> ton1n8o: it is gnome document viewer
[00:15] <ton1n8o> http://live.gnome.org/Evince/
[00:15] <ton1n8o> take a look
[00:15] <Ddpbf> yes I know
[00:16] <Ddpbf> but people here uses KDE and Okular
[00:16] <Ddpbf> ;)
[00:16] <ton1n8o> hey Ddpdf
[00:16] <Linkmaster> Yeahh
[00:16] <Ddpbf> try #ubuntu-app-devel
[00:16] <ton1n8o> well
[00:17] <ton1n8o> you mean the they irc channel ?
[00:17] <Ddpbf> yes also see
[00:17] <Ddpbf> #gnome-hackers
[00:17] <ton1n8o> lol
[00:18] <Linkmaster> xD
[00:18] <ton1n8o> the name soudns power lol
[00:18] <ton1n8o> sounds *
[00:18] <Ddpbf> #gnome-hackers - General GNOME Development talk
[00:19] <Ddpbf> hacker is not cracker
[00:19] <ton1n8o> cool
[00:23] <cablop> what do you use in kubuntu to install software?
[00:23] <cablop> what is the alternative to synaptic?
[00:24] <Linkmaster> KPK, muon, a couple others
[00:24] <ton1n8o> well, Im on the #ubuntu-app-devel
[00:25] <ton1n8o> so thanks byt the help =)
[00:27] <ton1n8o> another question, do someone here knows jaliste or  KaL?
[00:29] <tripelb> someone in ubuntu reports this channel is dead. True?
[00:30] <Linkmaster> Hm, they don't know what they are talkign about IMO
[00:32] <Ddpbf> cablop: muon developer is on this channel
[00:33] <Ddpbf> :)
[00:33] <cablop> hehe
[00:33] <cablop> i see
[00:33] <cablop> i was trying to set muon or whatever manages the updates to offer me security and updates only and not proposed and backports... in synaptic i can tell it to have those repos enabled but not to prefer them
[00:34] <Ddpbf> it is all same settings
[00:34] <Ddpbf> ie /etc/apt/
[00:35] <Ddpbf> ie /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:35] <Ddpbf> you could edit mannully
[00:35] <Ddpbf> kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:36] <cablop> i know i can add repos there
[00:36] <Ddpbf> or via graphic interface (synaptic, muon, kpackagekit, USC)
[00:36] <cablop> but, what about making it prefer some of the active repos over others?
[00:37] <Ddpbf> apt allways goes for newer software
[00:37] <cablop> yep, synaptic keeps that preference, i think it is synaptic only
[00:38] <Ddpbf> then use synaptic
[00:39] <cablop> but the kde updater is there offering me to install that software
[00:39] <cablop> i can ignore that, but what about other users?
[00:39] <Ddpbf> uninstall it
[00:39] <Ddpbf> (kpackagekit)
[00:39] <cablop> mmm
[00:39] <cablop> nice one
[00:40] <marjeo> im new here
[00:41] <jaws> break 19
[00:42] <ysis> cablob: What's the point of having proposed and backports enabled, but not use them?
[00:44] <Ddpbf> yes
[00:57] <The_Letter_M> Hello All
[01:05] <jaws> How do I diagnose UDP-Echo requests from anther host?
[01:22] <cablop> ysis the purpose is to manually install some sofwtare from there and not vbreaking dependencies of it
[01:38] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[01:44] <tertl3> hi
[02:01] <Daskreech> hi
[02:02] <Daskreech> cablop: Huh?
[02:02] <cablop> what?
[02:02] <cablop> what did i said
[02:03] <Daskreech> Never mind the first "word" is a name
[02:03] <Daskreech>  didn't click in
[02:03] <Daskreech> :)
[02:03] <cablop> o.O
[02:04] <Daskreech> cablop: Did you figure out firefox as default over konqueror?
[02:04] <cablop> dunno, i just tried some workarround
[02:05] <cablop> http://www.adityamooley.net/blogs/2009/08/06/changing-default-browser-in-kubuntu/
[02:06] <cablop> now i need a good remember the milk client for linux
[02:07] <cablop> one thing i hate of the things on internet is the assumption you always have internet connectivity
[02:07] <cablop> so i need a client able to locally save stuff
[02:07] <cablop> not a thing on goodle gears! i forgot to say
[02:28] <moes> How to reposition icons on panel
[02:34] <The_Letter_M> Hello
[02:35] <The_Letter_M> Anyone watching the Channel?
[03:05] <Daskreech> cablop: Why don't you start out with something local and figure out a way to sync it when you do have internet?
[03:16] <tertl3> im having some problems with flash in Kubuntu 11.04
[03:32] <tertl3> anmyone around?
[03:41] <Newbiathon> what up tertl3
[03:41] <dan_l> Ok.  I'm going to sound like a total Ktard for a moment:
[03:42] <dan_l> I love googsystray.  It is awesome because it checks gcal, gmail, gvoice
[03:42] <dan_l> But it looks like crap and I might think about not using it because it's not very qt looking.
[03:43] <tertl3> anyone have trouble with flash in 11.04?
[03:44] <tertl3> i cant get it to work
[03:44] <tertl3> plz help
[03:44] <dan_l> tertl3:  you might need to describe your problem a bit..........
[03:44] <tertl3> dan_l: well, the player will start to play , but it nevers really starts
[03:45] <tertl3> i even tried a 64 bit flash plugin installer
[03:45] <tertl3> dan_l: can you help me?
[03:45] <dan_l> what browser?
[03:45] <tertl3> chromium and ff and midori
[03:46] <dan_l> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[03:46] <dan_l> start with that in ffx
[03:46] <dan_l> see if it helps
[03:46] <Newbiathon> i had trouble with firefox flash, reinstalled firefox and flash plugin worked fine
[03:46] <Newbiathon> can all be done in the package manager
[03:46] <Newbiathon> takes 2 mins
[03:47] <Newbiathon> but im still a newb, look at my name lol
[03:49]  * mivasa is away: Gone away for now
[03:49] <tertl3> dan_l: i tried flash-aid already
[03:50] <tertl3> Newbiathon: are you on 11.04?
[03:50] <Newbiathon> yes
[03:51] <Newbiathon> go to kmenu/computer/kpk and type in search firefox choose remove
[03:52] <tertl3> Newbiathon: i did all that
[03:52] <Newbiathon> do the same with a "flash" search choose remove
[03:52] <Newbiathon> then reboot
[03:52] <Newbiathon> then reinstall both
[03:52] <tertl3> oh I didnt reboot
[03:52] <Newbiathon> i did too but i think the reboot is critical
[03:53] <Newbiathon> after removing it all reboot
[03:53] <Newbiathon> then reget
[03:53] <Newbiathon> worked for me after a struggle
[03:53] <Newbiathon> that extra 1 min reboot might save you a lot of digging : )
[03:53] <Newbiathon> hope that helps
[03:54] <tertl3> ok, here goes brb
[03:59] <Dinosaurus> how can i disconnect from an sftp server from dolphin?
[04:00] <cablop> Daskreech: i passsed that phase already
[04:00] <cablop> now willing to try thinkingrock, but they closed the latest version :(
[04:00] <Daskreech> Dinosaurus: close the tab
[04:02] <dan_l> tertl3:  do the videos start?
[04:52] <The_Letter_M> Hello All
[04:56] <The_Letter_M> Can I get taken off Invisible?
[04:58] <Unit193> The_Letter_M: Sure, but why would you want to? (usermode +i?)
[04:59] <The_Letter_M> So you can see what I'm saying?
[04:59] <The_Letter_M> I wasn't sure if anyone was seeing me or not
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> I need to execute a command before rsyslog starts / starts logging, how would I do this?
[05:00] <Unit193> The_Letter_M: "This prevents you from appearing in global WHO/WHOIS by normal users, and hides which channels you are on. It is strongly recommended that you set this user mode, and it is now enabled by default. "
[05:02] <The_Letter_M> Ahh. I thought it meant that nobody would see my messages until an OP removed it
[05:03] <The_Letter_M> Anyways
[05:04] <The_Letter_M> I switched to Kubuntu today and installed the proprietary Nvidia driver. I've since rebooted and now when I go to "Additional Drivers" it says "the driver is activated but not in use". How do I force Kubuntu to use it?
[05:05] <Unit193> Installed and rebooted?
[05:05] <The_Letter_M> Yep
[05:12] <billytwowilly> anybody have a recommendation on what to use for a dlna server?
[05:19] <The_Letter_M> Try Mediatomb
[05:19] <The_Letter_M> I think it's about the only DLNA server available ATM
[05:20] <lsv> is there any option to ls to just print the file starting with a dot?
[05:20] <The_Letter_M> You can do ls .
[05:21] <lsv> i meant like hidden folders and configuration files
[05:21] <The_Letter_M> lol
[05:21] <The_Letter_M> My bad
[05:22] <lsv> it's ok, no worries :)
[05:23] <lsv> something like this ls -A | grep ^\\.
[07:59] <malek> !help
[08:17] <coder27> Hello. How to turn on confirmation before file deletion in dolphin ?
[08:28] <alkemann> using konsole, how can I choose what browser links are opened in?
[08:30] <coder27> thanks  anyway. Bye.
[09:49] <shockrates> how can i find out what architecture my system is?
[10:28] <hriata> can anyone tell me how to filter all files except files with certain extensions that i want to share on a local network? Can squid do it?
[10:29] <hriata> a only want to share video files and text files.
[10:29] <hriata> I
[11:14] <alkemann> using konsole, how can I choose what browser links are opened in?
[11:20] <Peace-> alkemann: systemsettings, default browser
[11:21] <Peace-> alkemann: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/03/plasma-desktopXx1744.jpg
[11:26] <Belserusk1818> Hey guys.
[11:29] <Belserusk> I am thinking of jumping to KDE for at least 6 months. Any advice. I am a GNOME user.
[11:30] <Ddpbf> Belserusk: good decision
[11:30] <Peace-> Belserusk: first of all
[11:31] <Peace-> Belserusk: you can have gnome panels in few clicks
[11:31] <alkemann> Peace-: i have Chrome set as defaut browser, it still goes to Firefix though
[11:31] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=94534
[11:32] <Belserusk> Peace-, I have heard Kubuntu (KDE) is laggy. Is this the case?
[11:32] <Peace-> Belserusk: new computer with 4 gb of ram no problem
[11:32] <Peace-> Belserusk: old pc you have to turn off some stuff
[11:32] <alkemann> Peace-: and clicking "open link" on what you pasted takes me to an "Image viewer" that fails to show it
[11:32] <Peace-> alkemann: what?
[11:33] <Belserusk> Peace-, what would you give Kubuntu 11.04 out of 10?
[11:33] <Peace-> alkemann: please create a new user and check if it has the  same problems
[11:33] <alkemann> Peace-: im using irssi on screen in konsole
[11:33] <Peace-> ahh alkemann
[11:33] <Peace-> alkemann: maybe you have to configure irssi
[11:33] <Peace-> because irssi it's not a kde softtare i guess
[11:33] <alkemann> Peace-: i dont think so, the rest of the syntax menu is konsole
[11:34] <Peace-> Belserusk: i am on kubuntu 11.04 and it's quite fast, but i use raster and i have disabled  semantic desktop
[11:34] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/03/plasma-desktoppl3367.jpg
[11:35] <Peace-> alkemann: i dunno i use konversation it works well
[11:35] <Belserusk> Hi Peace-. Is that the global menu in that jpg?
[11:36] <Peace-> Belserusk: yes
[11:36] <Peace-> Belserusk: i have written here http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/unity-kde-another-test/
[11:36] <Belserusk> Peace-, I never liked that global menu. I also don't like the many changes in GNOME such as GDM, GNOME3, etc.
[11:37] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/kde-configure-panels-in-gnome-way-configure-kde-desktop-for-each-user/
[11:37] <Peace-> Belserusk: read that it configure panels "like" gnome
[11:37] <Peace-> 2
[11:38] <Peace-> Belserusk: then there is this to configure dolphin , bottom http://nowardev.wordpress.com/usefull-link-for-kubuntu-and-multimedia-stuff/what-you-would-want-to-do-on-startup-multimedia-side/
[11:39] <Belserusk> Thanks for the help Peace-
[11:39] <Belserusk> Peace-, how long are you on KDE?
[11:39] <Peace-> Belserusk: this for reduce ram cpu usage http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/configure-kubuntu-for-everyone/
[11:39] <Peace-> Belserusk: i was a gnome user for 6 months
[11:40] <Peace-> then i switched to kde because it's more like i can configure it as i want and not viceversa
[11:40] <Peace-> i guess 3 years
[11:41] <Belserusk> Peace-, nice
[11:42] <Belserusk> Peace-, have you ever had major problems with Kubuntu 11.04?
[11:43] <Ddpbf> Belserusk: why should somebody turn off akonadi?
[11:44] <Ddpbf> you relize that k-mail, kontact, akregator
[11:44] <Ddpbf> blogilo
[11:44] <Ddpbf> wont work without it?
[11:44] <Peace-> Belserusk: nope
[11:44] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, what are you talking about? I never mentioned akonadi.
[11:44] <Peace-> Belserusk: i don't use kmail i don't use kontact and i dont' use akrgator
[11:44] <Peace-> Belserusk: well akonadi can be disabled
[11:44] <Belserusk> Peace-, do you use Korganizer?
[11:44] <Peace-> to reduce cpu usage
[11:45] <Ddpbf> Peace: then you do not use KDE
[11:45] <Ddpbf> Klol
[11:45] <Peace-> Ddpbf: dude , i use kdenlive
[11:45] <Ddpbf> it is extragear
[11:45] <Peace-> dolphin and the browser
[11:45] <Belserusk> Peace-, what GNOME apps do you use in KDE?
[11:45] <Peace-> Belserusk: only firefox
[11:45] <Ddpbf> firefox
[11:45] <Peace-> gimp ==> krita
[11:45] <Ddpbf> is not GNOME app
[11:46] <Ddpbf> it is not even gtk
[11:46] <Ddpbf> it is quasi-gtk
[11:46] <Peace-> omg Ddpbf?
[11:46] <Peace-> doped?
[11:46] <Ddpbf> Firefox is not gnome app
[11:46] <Ddpbf> :)
[11:46] <Ddpbf> gnome browser is epiphany i think
[11:47] <Peace-> that is for nerd
[11:47] <Peace-> not for normal people
[11:47] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/gnome2kde/
[11:47] <Ddpbf> Belserusk: you could use gtk apps on kde
[11:47] <Belserusk> Peace-, thanks for the link
[11:47] <Ddpbf> just install oxygen-gtk
[11:47] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, yes and vice versa
[11:47] <Ddpbf> so that could feat rest of desktop
[11:47] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, what is wrong with oxygen-gtk?
[11:48] <Ddpbf> nothing
[11:48] <Ddpbf> :)
[11:48] <Ddpbf> you should install it
[11:48] <Peace-> Belserusk: oxygen-gtk it's a theme to show gtk application like qt on kde
[11:48] <Ddpbf> so gtk apps could look like native on your kde desktop
[11:48] <Belserusk> Peace-, Ddpbf I am currently on Linux Mint 11 (based on Ubuntu 11.04) and I cant even save my open applications.
[11:49] <Ddpbf> Belserusk: mint gnome or mint kde?
[11:49] <Peace-> Belserusk: this is firefox http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/03/plasma-desktopLG3367.jpg
[11:49] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, sorry I misread you're text. I thought is said dont install rather than just install
[11:49] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, GNOME
[11:49] <Ddpbf> aha
[11:50] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, do you find any major issues with KDE?
[11:50] <Ddpbf> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=117962
[11:50] <Ddpbf> not really
[11:50] <Ddpbf> kde works fine on my old laptop
[11:51] <Ddpbf> with integrated gpu and 2 gigs of ram
[11:51] <Ddpbf> both kubuntu and archlinux
[11:51] <Peace-> Belserusk: i have 1.5 gig of ram intel 945gm 128mb of ram and dual core cpu 1600mhz
[11:51] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gnome-defaltt-panel-kde.gif
[11:51] <Peace-> it works quite well
[11:52] <Belserusk> I am tempted to give Kubunu 11.04 a try.
[11:52] <Belserusk> KDE looks realy polished.
[11:52] <Ddpbf> Belserusk: even oxygen-transparent works fine on my laptop
[11:52] <Peace-> Ddpbf: compiled?
[11:53] <Belserusk> So out of 10 - you're rating for Kubuntu 11.04 Ddpbf, Peace-
[11:55] <Belserusk> Ddpbf, Peace- well?
[11:57] <Peace-> Belserusk: well
[11:57] <Peace-> i guess you need to installa lots of stuff after the standard installation
[11:57] <Peace-> then you have to configure a lots of stuff but that is my point of view
[11:58] <Peace-> for example i want vlc for every software
[11:58] <Peace-> sorry audio viddeo
[11:58] <Peace-> and i have to modify a file..
[11:58] <Peace-> then codecs medibuntu stuff like that
[11:58] <Peace-> but i know where i have to set so ... i guess 15 minutes and i have set all
[11:59] <Belserusk> Peace-, /10?
[11:59] <Peace-> 11.10 ?
[11:59] <Belserusk> Peace-, 11.04
[11:59] <Peace-> that is on 11.04
[12:00] <Peace->  11.10   is not out
[12:00] <Peace-> 10.10 it's all why should i use it?
[12:00] <Peace-> all==> old
[12:00] <Belserusk> Peace-, no I mean what rating would you give Kubuntu 11.04 out of 10?
[12:00] <Peace-> ahh
[12:00] <Peace-> mm for kernel i guess 8
[12:01] <Peace-> for software 10
[12:01] <Peace-> for settings 4
[12:01] <Peace-> i mean by default oyu have a bad configuration for dolphin
[12:02] <Belserusk> Peace-, total score? I need to go to lunch soon.
[12:02] <Peace-> Belserusk: for example look at this
[12:02] <Peace-> Belserusk: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/03/plasma-desktopyr3367.jpg
[12:02] <Peace-> Belserusk: i added up button
[12:02] <Peace-> i added the filter bar on bottom
[12:02] <Peace-> and the space bar always on the bottom
[12:02] <Peace-> so...
[12:03] <Peace-> i guess total score is : 7
[12:03] <Belserusk> hmmm
[12:03] <Belserusk> Peace-, now I have my doubts as to switch to Kubuntu or not.
[12:03] <Peace-> Belserusk: you can read my blog
[12:03] <Peace-> edit in 10 minutes the stuff
[12:03] <Peace-> and then you have a nice system
[12:04] <Belserusk> Peace-, I'd love the frontend of KDE with the backend of GNOME.
[12:04] <Belserusk> Thank, I will read it.
[12:04] <Belserusk> Peace-, after all configuring. Would you give it an eight or nine out of ten?
[12:04] <Peace-> after configuration, my configuration
[12:05] <Peace-> i guess 10/10
[12:05] <Peace-> :D
[12:05] <Belserusk> Peace-, nice :-)
[12:05] <Belserusk> Bye Peace-
[12:27] <ogzy> at my ubuntu 10.04, i can install printer from the system settings menu, but when i try from localhost:631, add printer works, then i add the socket://ipnumber:9100 after this step the screen about writing Name and Description comes, after filling this again i am seeing the form that is asking me to write socket information, any idea what is wrong with it?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:04] <BluesKaj> heh, what Council ? ...what elections ?
[14:13] <gsedej_work> hi! How to raise window while moving using "Alt + Click"?
[14:31] <mfraz74> Just tried to upgrade this computer from 10.10 to 11.04, but was told that it "Could not determine the upgrade"
[14:31] <mfraz74> any ideas?
[14:34] <mfraz74> In main.log it says "Can't mark 'kubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.)"
[14:35] <DeltaEpsilon> I wish Kubuntu could release kde 4.7 beta this weekend
[14:36] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, what method did you use to upgrade?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ok mfraz74 run , sudo dpkg --configure -a, in the terminal
[14:37] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: went to kpackagekit, clicked on the "upgrade to natty" link under software updates
[14:37] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: that didn't do anything
[14:38] <mfraz74> also seeing "Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'" in the log
[14:38] <BluesKaj> IMO it's better to use do-realease-upgrade than using a package manager ...that command doesn't show any output when it works
[14:39] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, now do sudo apt-get -f install
[14:40] <mfraz74> trying to upgrade again using do-release-upgrade
[14:40] <BluesKaj> I meant dpkg --configure -a doesn't show output
[14:40] <mfraz74> oh
[14:42] <genii-around> mfraz74: I had same error before. I ended up doing: sudo apt-get remove update-manager-kde  then doing the release upgrade, reinstalling update-manager-kde after first reboot into new dist. Otherwise it went into circular dependency hell
[14:42] <mfraz74> will try both options when it has finished deciding that it can't upgrade again
[14:47]  * BluesKaj removes kpackagekit and it's related apps as soon as possible when upgrading
[14:48] <BluesKaj> gave me grief a while back so I no longer trust it
[14:50] <BluesKaj> heh, what Council ? ...what elections ? genii-around ...check the greeting
[14:50] <genii-around> The package system is moving to Muon
[14:51] <mfraz74> had a look at Muon, hoping that it will allow purchase of paid for apps too
[14:51] <BluesKaj> cool , muon works well
[14:51] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I think IRC Council
[14:51] <Pici> No
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, what for sale apps ?
[14:52] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: the ones you can buy in the Ubuntu software centre
[14:53] <BluesKaj> buy ? since when were apps being sold ?
[14:53] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: Ubuntu users have been able to do it for a while
[14:54] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: just done sudo apt-get -f install and nothing needed changing
[14:54]  * BluesKaj is disappointed in Ubuntu if that's the case
[14:55] <mfraz74> it is mainly for games
[14:56] <BluesKaj> I realize there's an enterprise branch of canonical , but didn't think apps were available for lay users
[14:57] <BluesKaj> oh games ...no wonder I din't know about it
[14:58] <ct529> hi. Serious problems here on production machines after updating to 1104. Konsole actuallt freezes the machines and need rebooting, causing large losses of data and work on production machines. Anyone who can help?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> always thought that LTS releases were meant for production pcs
[15:03] <ct529> I think it was a massive mistake
[15:04] <mfraz74> seems it is having problems because: Depends on kdebase-runtime [ i386 ] < 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu2 -> 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 > ( kde )
[15:05] <genii-around> mfraz74: Yes. I explained earlier about the circular dependency hell.
[15:06] <mfraz74> genii-around: i have removed update-manager-kde and this is still happening
[15:09] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, did you run sudo apt-get -f install ?
[15:09] <mfraz74> BluesKaj: yes i did
[15:09] <BluesKaj> run it again
[15:09] <genii-around> mfraz74: If you have any ppa files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ , try moving them somewhere else, then to do an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   before attempting another do-release-upgrade
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ahh, ppas ..yeah
[15:21] <mfraz74> seems to start when it wants to remove kdelibs5-plugins
[15:23] <BluesKaj> mfraz74, do you have a separate /home partitition?
[15:23] <mfraz74> yes
[15:24] <BluesKaj> I suggest you do a clean install to ?
[15:24] <BluesKaj>  /  rather
[15:24] <mfraz74> i might have to do that as a last resort
[15:25] <BluesKaj> looks like the resort is in view  :)
[15:25] <mfraz74> might try getting rid of the -dev packages first
[15:27] <Belserusk> Hi guys. Is oxygen-gtk supposed to be installed in KDE or GNOME?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> genii-around, I notice my google-linux bookmark is redirecting to the main google URL
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Belserusk, kde
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Belserusk, oops din't notice the gtk a
[15:28] <genii-around> BluesKaj: Odd
[15:30] <BluesKaj> don't use gnome Belserusk , so Idunno , but oxygen is defintely part of kde
[15:30] <sithlord48> does anyone here know about packaging ? im having an issue getting this deb to deploy anything to /usr/bin
[15:30] <Belserusk> BladeFreak, thanks.
[15:31] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, I know that Oxygen icons can be used in GNOME
[15:32] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, Are you on Kubuntu 11.04?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Belserusk, yes Kubuntu 11.04
[15:39] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, what rating would you give it out of 10?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Belserusk, I use them because they are default, so far i haven't bothered changing
[15:42] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, ?
[15:43] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, No, I mean what would you give it out of 10? 10 best the highest rating. e.g. 9 out of 10
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Belserusk, it's a matter of taste ...that's like asking , "what's your favourite colour "
[15:46] <Belserusk> BluesKaj, that's easy. My favorite color is blue.
[15:46] <BluesKaj> and I don't know how I would rate it til I try some others first :)_
[15:46] <Belserusk> For example I give Ubuntu 11.04 just 4 out of 10
[15:47] <ct529> hi. Serious problems here on production machines after updating to 1104. Konsole actuallt freezes the machines and need rebooting, causing large losses of data and work on production machines. Anyone who can help?
[15:47] <Belserusk> I give Ubuntu 10.10 eight out of ten
[15:48] <Belserusk> ct529, did you upgrade via update manager or via CD/USB?
[15:56] <virgolus> hi
[15:57] <virgolus> there is a way to upgrade kubuntu 10.10 to kde 4.6.3 from 4.6.2?
[15:59] <Belserusk> ct529, which was it?
[16:05] <ryrych> hi
[16:07] <BluesKaj> virgolus, add the ppa ,  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[16:08] <virgolus> I'm trying
[16:08] <ct529> Belserusk: through update manager
[16:08] <virgolus> I have ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports repo
[16:08] <ct529> Belserusk: the update seem to have gone well, without any substantial problem
[16:08] <Belserusk> ct529, I think it is usually better to upgrade via CD/USB
[16:09] <virgolus> no ppa?
[16:09] <Belserusk> ct529, opinions vary
[16:09]  * BluesKaj thinks update manager should be banned
[16:09] <ct529> Belserusk: yes, I agree .... the point is that we cannot upgrade all of the PCs through CD
[16:09] <Belserusk> ct529, ah yes
[16:10] <ct529> Belserusk: anyway, now the problem is there and apparently other people are having it .... look at the internet
[16:10] <BluesKaj> virgolus, if you can a 11.04 ppa for kde 4.6.3 to add to your repos
[16:10] <BluesKaj> find
[16:10] <virgolus> I try
[16:27] <Belserusk> does kubuntu have all the same packages as ubuntu
[16:27] <Belserusk> ?
[16:29] <rww> Belserusk: They use the same repositories, so the list of available packages is the same. Kubuntu comes with a different set of packages installed by default.
[16:29] <rww> e.g. KDE instead of GNOME
[16:30] <Belserusk> Thanks rww
[16:35] <ct529> Anyhow, we are trying to find a solution.... anyone who is having the same problem? We really need to run applications from terminal
[16:39] <Belserusk> ct529, sorry but I do not have a solution for you.
[16:40] <virgolus> BluesKaj, in kubuntu backports ppa there are only 4.6.2 package
[16:40] <selvakumaran> Hey there?
[16:40] <virgolus> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports?field.series_filter=maverick
[16:41] <selvakumaran> i have kubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64,. but it doesn't installing on my AMD athelon machine., Any i can assist me?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> virgolus, I suppose then kde 4.6.3 won't run on kubuntu 10.10 , if it isn't available officially
[16:42] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, how old or new is your amd pc ?
[16:42] <ct529> virgolus: no, I have upgraded to 463
[16:42] <szal> selvakumaran: define "AMD Athlon"
[16:43] <ct529> virgolus: ops, sorry I thought you were on 1104
[16:43] <virgolus> no
[16:43] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: itz brand new
[16:43] <virgolus> I'm on 10.10
[16:43] <virgolus> ok guys thx for support
[16:43] <ct529> virgolus: sorry for the mistake
[16:43] <selvakumaran> ct529: itz a processor.,
[16:43] <virgolus> I'll upgrade nest time
[16:43] <BluesKaj> try the alternate cd selvakumaran
[16:43] <BluesKaj> !alternate
[16:43] <virgolus> np ct529 :)
[16:43] <ct529> virgolus: I am afraid you will have to rebuild .... it is a pain
[16:44] <virgolus> no problem
[16:44] <BluesKaj> or upgrade to 11.04 virgolus
[16:44] <virgolus> my installation need a clean up
[16:44] <szal> selvakumaran: of course it is..  but which variant?  Athlon?  Athlon XP?  Athlon64?  Athlon II?
[16:44] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: why? whatz going wrong
[16:45] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, some older and brand new pcs  conatin hardware that the livecd  doesn't have drivers avaialble
[16:45] <selvakumaran> szal: :p sorry, itz athlonII
[16:46] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: but i m runninh ubuntu on the same machine finely
[16:46] <szal> selvakumaran: in that case, no need for a fresh install, just install kubuntu-desktop
[16:46] <ct529> virgolus: I meant you could rebuild it for 10.10
[16:46] <szal> selvakumaran: and choose Session type KDE on login
[16:47] <virgolus> I know
[16:47] <selvakumaran> hmm? on login?
[16:47] <virgolus> but with a 2.0 ghx cpu it's too long
[16:47] <virgolus> so I'll install 11.04 in another partition
[16:48] <virgolus> for future switch
[16:48] <virgolus> because i need my pc to work
[16:48] <ct529> virgolus: same here ....
[16:48] <virgolus> ahahah
[16:49] <virgolus> thanks anyway
[16:49] <ct529> guys, yu can't abandon me .... why the heck does the konsole freeze the system? It is a serious problem
[16:49] <ct529> what the heck is wrong with 1104?
[16:50] <virgolus> ct529 do you have an old .kde dir?
[16:50] <Tux> ct529: whats the issue?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, is ubuntu version 64 bit ? just curious
[16:50] <selvakumaran> szal: ????
[16:50] <Tux> need more detail
[16:50] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj:  yes it is 64?
[16:51] <ct529> Tux: virgolus: the konsole freezes the system on 1104 when you resize. These are production machines.
[16:51] <Tux> I have 10.04 but i can try to test
[16:51] <ct529> virgolus: no old.kde
[16:51] <BluesKaj> then just run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , I thought you were trying a fresh install
[16:51] <ct529> virgolus: do you mean in the home directory of the users?
[16:51] <virgolus> nvida display card?
[16:51] <virgolus> yes
[16:51] <ct529> virgolus: yep
[16:52] <virgolus> driver version?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , I thought you were trying a fresh install
[16:52] <Tux> works for me
[16:52] <BluesKaj> !works for me
[16:52] <cyprien_> hy everyone
[16:52] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: yes, i m trying 4 a fress install
[16:52] <Tux> ik
[16:52] <ct529> virgolus: (version: 270.41.19
[16:53] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, what ubuntu version do you have ?
[16:53] <virgolus> do you have installed via x-swat repo?
[16:53] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: 11.4
[16:54] <ct529> virgolus: x-swat?
[16:54] <ct529> !x-swat
[16:54] <Tux> bot doesnt know about everything, you know ;)
[16:54] <ct529> Tux: :P
[16:54] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, then kubuntu-desktop is all you need , then later if you like kubuntu , you can remove ubuntu desktop
[16:55] <virgolus> ct529 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[16:55] <ct529> virgolus: we do some CUDA development
[16:56] <ct529> virgolus: thanks a lot! they were recompiled
[16:56] <ct529> virgolus: I will try those drivers, and see if the problems is still there
[16:57] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: here my clear statement, i just need to install Kubuntu for my frd on his new sys,in which i got error, but when i tried ubuntu livecd itz sounds good
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ct529, if you are running production machines , it's best to stick withn LTS
[16:57] <virgolus> the driver is 270.41.03
[16:57] <virgolus> older then yours
[16:57] <virgolus> but works for me
[16:59] <ct529> BluesKaj: it has a really nice amount of problem, the LTS had, particularly with CUDA enabled cards
[16:59] <ct529> virgolus: no problem, as long as CUDA is available
[16:59] <BluesKaj> whats' cuda
[16:59] <ct529> virgolus: no, there is 270.51.19 for 11.04
[17:00] <ct529> virgolus: in x-swat, I mean
[17:00] <ct529> BluesKaj: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/cuda_home_new_uk.html
[17:00] <virgolus> ct529 sorry for mistake, "maverick" filter enabled :)
[17:00] <ct529> virgolus: I imagined :D
[17:00] <BluesKaj> selvakumaran, perhaps the kubuntu livecd was corrupt , did you try it on any other pcs ?
[17:01] <ct529> BluesKaj: development of GP GPU applications
[17:01] <selvakumaran> BluesKaj: I had.,
[17:01] <virgolus> selvakumaran control your cd image with md5
[17:02] <selvakumaran> virgolus: i m sorry , wat do u mean md5?
[17:04] <virgolus> type in console "md5sum isofilename"
[17:04] <virgolus> and compare the string with the md5 string in the download page
[17:05] <virgolus> if the string isn't identical redownload the file, it's corrupt
[17:09] <Madmoe> can someone help me here please!
[17:10] <Madmoe> hello!!
[17:10] <selvakumaran> virgolus: sure
[17:11] <Ddpbf> Madmoe: just ask somebody will answer
[17:17] <Madmoe> i have a tripple boot OSx Windows Seven and Ubuntu 11.04
[17:19] <selvakumaran> Madmoe:  gud, what h/w u have?
[17:23] <Madmoe> Makbook pro 13'' 7,1
[17:23] <Madmoe> selvakumaran:  but when i installed ubuntu lastely i cannot go into windows seven partition
[17:24] <Madmoe> selvakumaran: when i go to grub and choose the windows partition it crashes with file not found
[17:24] <Madmoe> selvakumaran: error 15: file not found
[17:26] <selvakumaran> Madmoe: oh i see,. may ubuntu removed your 7's, try reinstalling 7 again
[17:27] <Madmoe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/617650/
[17:27] <selvakumaran> Madmoe: i guess installing would remove ubuntu bootloader then,. ;p
[17:27] <Madmoe> this is the mount output
[17:28] <Madmoe> but the thing is i can visually see all the windows files from inside Natty!!
[17:28] <Madmoe> and go into folders and delete stuff and read from!!!
[17:29] <selvakumaran> Madmoe: Ya u can, itz the most advantage of ubuntu across all linux
[17:29] <marxjohnson> Madmoe: It'll be a problem with the grub config
[17:29] <selvakumaran> though some offers
[17:29] <marxjohnson> What may have happened is that Ubuntu thought grub would see the Windows partition as a certain number, when it actually sees it as another
[17:30] <marxjohnson> I've had a  similar thing happen before, but only when I've had 2 hard drives (which I guess you dont in an MBP?)
[17:30] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: and how that should be fixed??
[17:30] <selvakumaran> Madmoe: Dude, i m really sorry, i m not such a brainy to help u out on this,. i m just a learner . you may better try marxjohnson's idea
[17:30] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: Is it the case where i have to reinstall grub from a live CD?
[17:31] <marxjohnson> Madmoe: you should be able to reconfigure it and get it working, hold on, I've got a utility installed that might help
[17:31] <Madmoe> selvakumaran: sure thing thanks anyways
[17:31] <marxjohnson> try installing "grub-customizer" with apt-get
[17:31] <marxjohnson> ay8a8+u
[17:32] <marxjohnson> whoops
[17:32] <marxjohnson> ignore that
[17:32] <selvakumaran> Madmoe: Welcome
[17:32] <Madmoe> ok
[17:32] <Madmoe> will try now
[17:32] <marxjohnson> cool
[17:32] <marxjohnson> It might be that you just need to get it to autodetect your OSes again
[17:33] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: i did try running grup-update after i have installed everything
[17:33] <marxjohnson> hmm perhaps not then
[17:34] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: are u sure its grub-customizer?
[17:34] <marxjohnson> yeah
[17:34] <Peace-> hi
[17:35] <marxjohnson> Madmoe: ah, it's from a PPA
[17:36] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: yes and what a PPA?
[17:36] <marxjohnson> Personal Package archive, it's an extra APT repository which you have to add
[17:37] <Madmoe> i just installed natty i didnt have time to tamper with sources!!
[17:37] <marxjohnson> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer && sudo apt-get update
[17:37] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: how did u know??
[17:37] <Madmoe> ah ok
[17:37] <marxjohnson> then you should be able to install it
[17:46] <Madmoe> marxjohnson: i'll restart and get back to you
[17:46] <marxjohnson> good luck!
[18:03] <wpg> hei
[18:10] <selvakumaran> my libreword doesn't check grammer, it says no dict, hw can i intall it then?
[18:16] <sourcemaker> is there a ppa apt source for kde 4.7?
[18:18] <binateah> hi
[18:18] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: no until you see it in kubuntu.org?
[18:19] <sourcemaker> Tm_T: ok thanks... I'll wait :-)
[18:19] <Tm_T> sourcemaker: hopefully beta2 will be available when it's released
[18:38] <selvakumaran> can we make this channel in such a way get an beep on evry post?
[18:44] <Tm_T> selvakumaran: it's your irc client that need to be set up that way
[18:45] <selvakumaran> Tm_T: i m enirely new to IRC, can you help me out then? i musing konversation
[18:47] <Tm_T> selvakumaran: unfortunately I don't know how that is done in Konversation, try asking in #konversation instead?
[18:49] <selvakumaran> Tm_T: ok dude, thanks anyway
[18:55] <Peace-> wait
[18:55] <Peace-> i will see
[18:55] <Peace-> oh sorry i can't
[18:56] <Peace-> btw you shoild go on menu settings then notifications
[18:56] <Peace-> i guess
[19:27] <ilias> i am running on my notebook 10.04. i installed it on my desktop too but i faced with a driver's problem of my ndvidia (gforce) card. the same problem i fased under 11.3 suse too. unstable system, freeze and pixelized icons. so i cannot use 10.04 on my desktop. is 11.04 recommended or is it better to choose ubuntu's version although gnome is not familiar at all to me.
[19:34] <LINKSWORD2> -
[21:03] <greylica_afk> Hey guys, thank you for 11.04 !
[21:03] <greylica_afk> Installing now,
[21:03] <greylica_afk> Blender is near twice as fast in OpenGL
[21:48] <Grue_> got a question... the repos in the PM are ubuntu repos right?
[21:52] <jordan_> when i have my desktop effects on when im playing a game or trying to use gimp i have a little trouble
[21:53] <jordan_> like when i use the paint brush in gimp its slow mode looking
[21:53] <jordan_> i have kubuntu 11.04
[21:53] <jordan_> i didnt have this problem with kubuntu 10.10
[21:55] <jordan_> also i have everything uncheck but blur and make window transparent in certain situations like when you grab it
[21:56] <jordan_> i dont think there was a kernel change between kubuntu 10.10 and kubuntu 11.04
[21:56] <jordan_> so my drivers should be correct
[21:59] <lcb> jordan_: i think it depends on performance of your machine. I have a good one and sometimes gimp takes a while to drag 'kind of' big graphics
[21:59] <jordan_> hmm
[22:00] <lcb> jordan_: save the project and open it again, to free some
[22:00] <jordan_> but in kubuntu 10.10 i didnt have any problems
[22:00] <jordan_> blender is working great with deaktop effects on
[22:01] <lcb> jordan_: check the services and stuff your machine is consuming on that installation. probably you are running more tasks than before
[22:01] <jordan_> and blender takes alot more power then gimp im pretty sure of it
[22:01] <jordan_> lcb, k
[22:01] <lcb> jordan_: in fact i have a bigger issue with gimp. i didn't install it as root but olny runs as root
[22:02] <jordan_> im updating now
[22:02] <jordan_> i have 130
[22:02] <jordan_> hmm
[22:02] <lcb> jordan_: so check if you have unnecessary ones. i would need to do that too, one of these days.
[22:03] <jordan_> what pack manager are you suing
[22:03] <jordan_> using*
[22:03] <lcb> jordan_: in general 11.04 (in my opinion) runs better, comparing w/10.10
[22:03] <jordan_> apt?
[22:03] <jordan_> apt always make me use sudo
[22:04] <lcb> jordan_: apt-get, synaptic, the kubuntu default.. :) it depends the mood and how busy i am
[22:04] <jordan_> lcb, that makes me happy
[22:04] <jordan_> lol
[22:04]  * Linkmaster has never liked synaptic
[22:05] <lcb> jordan_: hmmm... i don't remmenber if i installed this last one with apt. but that gives me the idea of trying different installation methods
[22:06] <jordan_> lcb, two days ago i installed wine
[22:06] <lcb> Lii drunk one, an old french one
[22:06] <lcb> just kidding
[22:06] <jordan_> after that i couldnt install anything
[22:06] <lcb> geee
[22:07] <jordan_> it was a problem with the ttf
[22:07] <jordan_> that was odd
[22:07] <jordan_> its fix now
[22:07] <lcb> are you sure it was wine?
[22:07] <lcb> maybe vodka?! :o
[22:07] <jordan_> yes
[22:07] <jordan_> i unstalled it
[22:07] <lcb> my wine runs fine
[22:07] <jordan_> well not wine it self
[22:08] <jordan_> the ttf front
[22:08] <lcb> with water ?
[22:08] <lcb> ahh
[22:08] <jordan_> for some reason it didnt install all the way
[22:09] <jordan_> i think i got disconnect during that installation only thing i can think of
[22:09] <lcb> apt-get --purge remove wine && reboot ... and reinstall it
[22:09] <jordan_> its fine now
[22:10] <lcb> jordan_: but about the gimp issue. i would use bleachbit as root and as user to clean the system. you'ld see a lot of improvement
[22:10] <jordan_> i wish the desktop themes were design more stylish
[22:10] <lcb> jordan_: but be careful selecting the options..
[22:11] <jordan_> i just got done removing alot of things
[22:11] <lcb> jordan_: i believe Kubuntu devs already contacted Pierre Cardin an Christian Dior  to make some other ones.
[22:12] <lcb> themes..
[22:12] <jordan_> i had this issue before i guted out this system
[22:12] <lcb> jordan_: fresh installation or upgrade?
[22:12] <jordan_> i always do fresh
[22:12] <jordan_> i never upgrade
[22:13] <lcb> good, join the club
[22:13] <jordan_> i hear horror stories
[22:13] <lcb> and always having separated "user" partitions
[22:14] <jordan_> i hust have two primaries / for root and home
[22:14] <jordan_> just*
[22:14] <jordan_> then swap on logic
[22:14] <lcb> now i'm fitting with cups - a printer that needs login:password but i believe the driver might be wrong because i don't get any dialog.
[22:15] <lcb> jordan_: at least /home is good to have
[22:15] <lcb> i get /etc and /user on sepparated one too
[22:15] <jordan_> and it looks neater on the widget :)
[22:16] <lcb> :)
[22:16] <lcb> kubuntu is great. if someone needs a god use kubuntu and pray
[22:16] <jordan_> what does that help?
[22:16] <lcb> j/k
[22:16] <jordan_> im just wondering cause i dont know?
[22:17] <lcb> jordan_: /user /etc?
[22:17] <jordan_> yes
[22:18] <lcb> that's where you have your user applications and configurations, respectively. so is good to (at least) have a copy of it
[22:18] <lcb> not that you'll need the core files but you might need to check the previous configurations, for instance, on /etc
[22:19] <jordan_> k
[22:19] <jordan_> i kind of understand lol
[22:20] <lcb> jordan_: on the other hand before an upgrade, running a live cd and backing up or compressing those directories would do the same.
[22:20] <lcb> and any distro on one partition runs better (i believe)
[22:21] <lcb> jordan_: those fancy icons, themes etc are in /usr, for example.
[22:21] <jordan_> oh your going it cause then you dont have to reinstall everything
[22:21] <jordan_> ok i see now
[22:22] <lcb> if you like it and on a future installation you don't remember where you got it you still have a copy of it
[22:23] <lcb> jordan_: but don't take only my word, i'm not an expert, just a regular user & abuser, or, simplyb> lc
[22:23] <lcb> oops, *simply <lcb>
[22:24] <jordan_> see
[22:24] <lcb> well, back to cups. me with cups and you with wine. something«s not correct
[22:24] <lcb> (cup of wine)
[22:27] <lcb> jordan_: write my nick if you need anything i could help, in case everybody else is still trying to discover where that e-coli bacteria is coming from.
[22:31] <jordan_> lcb, k
[22:40]  * Wojtulas witam wszystkich polaków :D
[22:49] <trtwiggy> Is there a place I can look up compatible laptops for Kubuntu?
[23:47] <cyprien_> yo
[23:47] <cyprien_> hy every one
[23:48] <no_life_> hy guy
[23:48] <no_life_>  how to hack a
[23:49] <lcb> a life?
[23:49] <lcb> just unscrew it
[23:49] <lcb> :)
[23:51] <no_life_> a network
[23:51] <no_life_> ??
[23:51] <no_life_> lol
[23:51] <no_life_> sngklnskg
[23:52] <lcb> looks like it's hacked from "Remote" already  '<-- no_life_ (~cyprien@251.41.207.77.rev.sfr.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)'