[00:09] <phillw> head_victim: what happens when you just cd to the directory from lxterminal?
[00:12] <head_victim> Nothing, that's what it opens to by default ;)
[00:14] <phillw> head_victim: I'd flag it as a bug via bug reporting so that pcman can have a look at it.
[00:14] <Unit193> ls -l ?
[00:14] <Unit193> Take a look at who owns it
[00:14] <head_victim> The logged in user does
[00:27] <head_victim> WOW, I just tried to open chromium and it threw an error "cannot be opened as root"
[00:27] <head_victim> No idea what's going on but I think everything thinks I'm root
[00:30] <head_victim> Everything opens fine from the terminal but tries to open as root when I use the icons in the menu
[00:41] <phillw> head_victim: you haven't run gksu from terminal at some point instead of gksudo?
[00:42] <head_victim> Nope, I don't use gksudo
[00:42] <head_victim> Nope, I don't use gksudo
[00:43] <phillw> gksudo is the correct one, gksu can really screw things up.
[00:44] <phillw> I'm not too sure, permissions can be a real PITA when they get messed up.
[00:44] <head_victim> I don't do either really, anything root I need I do cli
[00:45] <phillw> are the ownership on ~home/user set as you would expect?
[00:48] <head_victim> Yep
[00:48] <head_victim> And they all open fine from cli. Weird stuff :)
[00:49] <phillw> I'd be tempted to run a recursive chown & chgrp on the directory. (you can combine them)
[00:49] <head_victim> Yeah it's not just a directory though, I've already tried it :)
[00:49] <head_victim> I clicked chromium as well from the menu and it tried to open as root as well
[00:49] <phillw> if that does not work, file a bug. I've not come across it before - possibly one of the others has.
[00:49] <head_victim> So it's somethink gui related
[00:50] <phillw> head_victim: , jmarsden or bioterror are the two I would ask. I've not come across it before, so do not know what to advise.
[00:51] <head_victim> That's ok, any idea what package to file against?
[00:52] <head_victim> Lubuntu-meta is what I'm going for
[00:52] <phillw> head_victim: I'd just put it onto the mailing list - they both read them.
[00:54] <head_victim> Roger that
[00:55] <phillw> and with that, this little drone is going to his alcove for regeneration. My 5 year old niece and 1 year old nephew are due here this morning - I need all the regeneration I can get :P
[00:56] <head_victim> Night mate
[02:58] <Fudge> hi phillw , are you the one working on accessibility?
[03:03] <head_victim> Fudge: he just went to bed 2 hours ago, but yeah he's the one coordinating the efforts with Lubuntu
[03:03] <Fudge> thanks head_victim  ill hang and try to catch him another time
[03:03] <head_victim> Fudge: no worries, he's in the UK so timing is fun :) If all else fails there is the mailing list
[03:04] <Fudge> ive seen some posts so guess im on it loL, yeah those 10 or 11 hours suck
[04:25] <jmarsden> head_victim: Did you solve your permissions issue?
[08:50] <sumrandom> dudes
[08:50] <sumrandom> using the livecd
[08:50] <sumrandom> and it locks up whenever i click on anything
[08:51] <sumrandom> menu, launchers etc
[08:51] <sumrandom> even the install icon
[08:51] <zeroedout> can you drop to a terminal?
[08:51] <sumrandom> which is a pain as i am trying to install
[08:51] <sumrandom> nah frozen
[08:52] <zeroedout> it only freezes after you click something?
[08:53] <zeroedout> how much RAM does your machine have?
[08:53] <sumrandom> yeah. moving the mouse etc is fine, until you click
[08:53] <sumrandom> 256
[08:53] <sumrandom> old laptop
[08:54] <zeroedout> hrmm, it could be running out of memory. You may need to use the non-graphical method
[08:54] <zeroedout> it's not as pretty but i've done it a couple times and the steps are very easy to follow
[08:54] <zeroedout> before you do that though, you can try to bootup again, go to a tty and hit dmesg and see if anything is weird
[08:55] <zeroedout> you may also have bad RAM so you could try memtest and see if it detects any errors
[08:56] <sumrandom> cool, the minimal install, i need a different iso?
[08:56] <sumrandom> might try that aye, the memtest on the disc said memory is good
[09:25] <head_victim> jmarsden: nope, id states I'm just the normal user ("jared"), so does finger, whoami, etc. If I run a program from cli they run as user jared (unless I specifically run it as root obviously) and when I run a program from pressing a gui icon it runs as root all the time, never the user. pcmanfm & opens it as the nomal user and works fine as expected. Clicking the icon for pcmanfm tries to open up /home/jared and then whinges about
[09:25] <head_victim>  permissions. It's a little odd
[09:37] <Luffy> how to unrar?
[09:38] <Luffy> please help?
[12:41] <mati75> I saw lubuntu 11.10 alpha1 is released
[12:41] <mati75> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-oneiric-alpha1.iso
[13:23] <phillw> mati75: it is just a house keeping excercise. Nothing major on it and built using the 'old' withos of iso building. The fun starts with A2 :)
[13:24] <phillw> *method*
[13:26] <head_victim> phillw: I can't wait for it to be official, because then I'll be able to mirror it all locally with my rsync I already run for my local mirror
[13:27] <silverarrow> hi
[13:27] <silverarrow> does anyone know the network manager well?
[13:28] <silverarrow> I miss a function in the network signal indicator
[13:28] <silverarrow> it was better in the last lubuntu version
[13:30] <silverarrow> is there any way to retrieve this fuction?
[13:31] <silverarrow> where it shows signal strength, and signal quality of wireless network?
[13:32] <silverarrow> do channell is pretty dead ?
[13:32] <head_victim> silverarrow: sorry I've never used wireless with Lubuntu so can't really say
[13:32] <silverarrow> oh,
[13:32] <silverarrow> I see
[13:32] <head_victim> If you get no luck in here maybe try the mailing list
[13:33] <silverarrow> wireless is a must here
[13:33] <head_victim> Details at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[13:33] <silverarrow> :- )
[13:33] <head_victim> Ah yeah, I don't even own a laptop :/
[13:33] <silverarrow> thanks
[13:33] <silverarrow> stationaries are good
[13:34] <silverarrow> but if I had one, I would have to resort ot wireless at the moment, even there lol
[13:34] <silverarrow> lubuntu handles laptops rather well
[13:54] <beef-supreme> i need help configuring lxdm
[13:59] <beef-supreme> anyone on? i want to configure lxdm
[16:41] <ubuntucu_ahmet> Hello! I use Ubuntu(with gnome). After format the system, I always remove from startup the gnome-panel. Instead of it I use AWN as panel. If i will use LXDE, I will do the same thing for LXDE. Canonical will support Lubuntu soon. LXDE is faster than gnome. For me it is better to use Lubuntu? Thank you!
[16:42] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: are you asking if Lubuntu will work with AWN?
[16:43] <ubuntucu_ahmet> stlsaint: I don't know. But I know that AWN is independed from desktop manager. :-X
[16:47] <ubuntucu_ahmet>  stlsaint: http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6867694/LXDE_Compiz_Emerald_AWN I think it works. I read it now from some other sites too.
[16:47] <ubuntucu_ahmet>  stlsaint: sorry i hadnt understand the quesiton true... i don't ask this.
[16:48] <ubuntucu_ahmet> I am asking if is better for me to use Lubuntu (ubuntu with lxde) ?
[16:53] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: if you want to stick to lxde than i suggest lubuntu
[16:53] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: if you just want to test lxde with ubuntu than install the lubuntu-desktop package
[16:53] <ubuntucu_ahmet> stlsaint: i jt need to know what will i lose if i start Lubuntu ?
[16:54] <ubuntucu_ahmet> stlsaint: you told me to test it....
[16:54] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: programming and filemanager for one
[16:54] <ubuntucu_ahmet> programming ?
[16:54] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: download the iso and give it a test in a vbox
[16:54] <stlsaint> ubuntucu_ahmet: sorry, i mean programs
[16:54] <ubuntucu_ahmet> ok i will test it.
[16:54] <stlsaint> applications are different from ubuntu and lubuntu
[16:54] <ubuntucu_ahmet> i can use all programs with lxde right ?
[16:55] <ubuntucu_ahmet> i understand... ok.
[16:55] <ubuntucu_ahmet> thank you!
[16:55] <ubuntucu_ahmet> ;-)
[16:55] <stlsaint> no prob
[18:21] <elros> I'm happy that ubuntu has many functional desktops, including lxde
[23:14] <Tandyman100> Well, lubuntu is the best debian-based distro for old computers. Period. I just installed 11.04 on my eMachines 633mhz, and it flies.
[23:51] <phillw> Tandyman100: thank you for taking the time to say so :)
[23:56] <Tandyman100> Just discovered the netbook interface, so I'm almost definitely putting this on my EEE PC 900