| jcastro | robert_ancell: well, lightdm is delightfully boring | 00:29 |
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| hallyn | unity-2d fails to start inside KVM. bug 792075 has the xsession-errors file. Does anything in there look like a plausible first cause? | 00:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 792075 in qemu-kvm "oneiric live-cd does not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/792075 | 00:29 |
| robert_ancell | jcastro, wait for the quake greeter :) | 00:29 |
| jcastro | quake greeter? | 00:29 |
| jcastro | do I have to shoot something to log in or something? | 00:30 |
| robert_ancell | jcastro, where you shoot your character to login! | 00:30 |
| jcastro | yeah! | 00:30 |
| chrisccoulson | i should try out lighdm | 01:01 |
| chrisccoulson | can i run a browser in the greeter session though? | 01:02 |
| alex3f | good morning | 07:48 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:51 |
| RAOF | Hey there chrisccoulson | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hey RAOF, how are you? | 08:06 |
| RAOF | Friday'd. | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | no pitti this morning? | 08:07 |
| RAOF | Also, marvelling at the 9.4MiB openjdk buildlog. | 08:07 |
| RAOF | It's a pitti-holiday is it not? | 08:08 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i'm glad i don't maintain openjdk ;) | 08:08 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti was on vacation yesterday, but i'm not sure about today | 08:08 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, he has a swap day today | 08:09 |
| chrisccoulson | does anyone here still run natty? | 08:11 |
| broder | yeah | 08:11 |
| RAOF | I think TheMuso's still on Natty? | 08:11 |
| broder | i still use natty | 08:11 |
| broder | sometimes i even use maverick | 08:11 |
| broder | what do you need? :) | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | broder, would you mind installing thunderbird from the archive, then adding https://launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/+archive/mozilla-test/+packages and upgrading to the latest beta? i want to make sure these builds work before i copy them in to the thunderbird-next PPA :) | 08:12 |
| broder | chrisccoulson: sure, please hold... | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 08:13 |
| chrisccoulson | i can test the lucid build here (i still have a desktop running lucid), but i don't have any machines running maverick or natty | 08:14 |
| broder | chrisccoulson: seems to startup fine. anything in particular you want me to try? | 08:19 |
| broder | (i don't have a profile or anything configured in tb at the moment) | 08:19 |
| broder | chrisccoulson: i need to hit the sack at this point, but on a surface level, things look fine for natty. cheers | 08:26 |
| chrisccoulson | broder, excellent, thanks :) | 08:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll copy that to the thunderbird-next PPA shortly | 08:33 |
| chrisccoulson | grrrrr | 08:36 |
| chrisccoulson | so, this silly window that takes up my entire screen when i dock my laptop,and shows a sad face telling me i need to log out is actually from gnome-session | 08:37 |
| chrisccoulson | can we please get rid of that, it's awful? | 08:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got no idea what causes it to show, but my session is working fine underneath (i think maybe compiz crashed and restarted when i docked, but that's all) | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks, how are you? | 08:52 |
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| chr1sccoulson | seb128, i'm good thanks | 08:53 |
| chr1sccoulson | just testing firefox updates on my lucid machine ;) | 08:53 |
| chr1sccoulson | i really should upgrade this at some point | 08:53 |
| chr1sccoulson | jo is incredible, she hasn't applied a single security update since i last used it | 08:54 |
| chr1sccoulson | she just closes update-manager when it appears! | 08:54 |
| chr1sccoulson | we should do auto updates for security ;) | 08:54 |
| seb128 | who care about security, it's easier to just close the annoying dialog :p | 08:56 |
| chr1sccoulson | indeed :) | 08:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, by reading gnome-session code that screen is displayed when the session fails to respawn something that quited | 09:00 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 09:00 |
| chr1sccoulson | seb128, yeah, i just took a look at that too | 09:00 |
| seb128 | chr1sccoulson, if that's a required application | 09:00 |
| seb128 | so could be compiz segfaulting out of the fact that it should respawn | 09:01 |
| chr1sccoulson | seb128, i think compiz did crash, but it also restarted again | 09:01 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_, how are you? | 09:01 |
| chr1sccoulson | i'm not entirely sure, i'd need to check again | 09:01 |
| chr1sccoulson | but compiz was definitely running | 09:01 |
| seb128 | if (!gsm_app_restart (app, &error)) { | 09:02 |
| seb128 | if (is_app_required (manager, app)) { | 09:02 |
| seb128 | on_required_app_failure (manager, app); | 09:02 |
| seb128 | basically is what it does | 09:02 |
| seb128 | run gnome-session --debug maybe and dock your laptop and look at the session log | 09:03 |
| rodrigo_ | hi seb128, I'm a bit sleepy, still some (small) toothache :( | 09:06 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, how are you? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 09:07 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, not off today? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | no, yesterday was an holiday today is not, I decided to do an half day each day basically so I've one day off on 2 days ;-) | 09:09 |
| seb128 | i.e I will be mostly off the afternoon | 09:09 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, but yesterday you were not off, I saw you working most of the day :) | 09:10 |
| rodrigo_ | or at least around irc :) | 09:10 |
| seb128 | right, as I said I did half a day :p | 09:10 |
| seb128 | yeah, I had IRC running but I watch tennis most of the afternoon :p | 09:10 |
| seb128 | will do the same today | 09:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok :) | 09:10 |
| rodrigo_ | roland garros? | 09:11 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:11 |
| seb128 | it's the end of the second weeks so great games from now on ;-) | 09:11 |
| rodrigo_ | I don't follow much tennis, I used to always fall asleep when watching games after lunch :) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:12 |
| rodrigo_ | but yes, I guess I should watch Nadal some day :) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | he's playing this afternoon ;-) | 09:12 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 09:12 |
| seb128 | he's playing against murray so you can argue with chrisccoulson who between Spain and the UK is better ;-) | 09:13 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 09:13 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, are you able to approve https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/5.0~b1+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/2543042 ? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, what desktop work will you do in exchange? ;-) | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, anything you want ;) | 09:24 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | or i can get you a beer in dublin? | 09:24 |
| seb128 | that works as well | 09:24 |
| seb128 | ok, accepted | 09:24 |
| seb128 | beer waouh \o/ | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent, thanks :) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you want the firefox one as well I guess? | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, is that in the new queue as well? | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 09:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/72887307/firefox_5.0~b3%2Bbuild1%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.changes | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | yes, i added some transitional language packs | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | i remember now ;) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | newed | 09:25 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 09:26 |
| seb128 | double beer? ;-) | 09:26 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 09:26 |
| seb128 | why is evo such a piece of crap sometimes? | 09:26 |
| chrisccoulson | we'll get another firefox beta next week! | 09:26 |
| seb128 | the "show" combo is on all messages and it shows only the unread ones | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm starting to wonder whether i'm creating more work by tracking the beta channel in oneiric ;) | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, use thunderbird! | 09:27 |
| * chrisccoulson hides | 09:27 | |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 09:27 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I might do that to try once you get the e-d-s and unity integration done | 09:27 |
| seb128 | you being tb team, not you only don't worry | 09:27 |
| alex3f | !seen mvo | 09:27 |
| ubot2 | I have no seen command | 09:27 |
| seb128 | alex3f, yesterday was an holiday in germany he might have taken today off to have a long w.e | 09:28 |
| alex3f | thank you seb128! | 09:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to upload mike's current work for thunderbird in the next day or so | 09:28 |
| chrisccoulson | it's looking good :) | 09:28 |
| seb128 | alex3f, yw | 09:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, great! | 09:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you still use both? evo for your work machine and tb otherwise? | 09:29 |
| seb128 | do you use it for emails as well on your work box or just calendar? | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah. and it will probably stay that way :) | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i use evo for everything on my work machine | 09:29 |
| seb128 | do you see a speed difference on imap, etc nowadays? (just curious) | 09:30 |
| chrisccoulson | not too much, but then i only have my gmail account set up in thunderbird, and that's quite low traffic | 09:30 |
| chrisccoulson | although evo is pretty slow for me because i have lots of filters set up which is probably not representative of most people ;) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | right, I do filtering on the server side | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i wonder whether i should do that | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | evo tends to decide to do the filtering when i want to read a mail, and then it makes me wait for 2 or 3 minutes until it has finished ;) | 09:34 |
| seb128 | shouldn't it do that when do send&receive? | 09:34 |
| seb128 | though I'm not even sure what that means for imap and idle :p | 09:35 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - it does, but i have that run every 5 minutes | 09:35 |
| chrisccoulson | so, there's a high probability of me catching it when it is running the filters | 09:35 |
| seb128 | no need to send&receive nowadays on imap | 09:35 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder if gmail has an API for filters? having a local UI to set up server-side filtering would be cool :) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | it would indeed, I'm not using gmail though, I'm using the canonical imap with a procmailrc | 09:36 |
| RAOF | Last time I tried gmail's filters weren't expressive enough to do what I wanted (like match on the Launchpad-* headers exclusively). | 09:40 |
| cjwatson | popey: I've added commentary there | 09:41 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do we still need python-gtkmozembed? debian dropped it from their python-gnome-extras build | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, there's still quite a few packages depending on it | 09:42 |
| RAOF | Bah. What's the incantation for getting all the build-rdepends of a package again? | 09:42 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to get rid of it at some point though | 09:42 |
| cjwatson | popey: it's not really a duplicate of the bug you marked, though, but whatever | 09:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the list of sources is | 09:43 |
| seb128 | freespeak | 09:43 |
| seb128 | gnome-python-extras | 09:43 |
| seb128 | lernid | 09:43 |
| seb128 | listen | 09:43 |
| seb128 | penguintv | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pytrainer | 09:43 |
| seb128 | so 5 sources out of g-p-e itself | 09:44 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, those are all on here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-mozilla-rapid-release-maintenance | 09:44 |
| seb128 | those will be ported this cycle right? | 09:44 |
| geser | RAOF: ubuntu-dev-tools has a script for it (reverse-build-depends) | 09:44 |
| seb128 | we would like stop building it and relying on the NBS binary until they are fixed? ;-) | 09:44 |
| cdbs | RAOF: Hey, any chances of a backport of upstream optimizations of intel sandy bridge GPUs to the ubuntu package xserver-xorg-video-intel? It seems those got dropped on the recent upload | 09:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah. either that or they will be dropped ;) | 09:45 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i sent out an e-mail asking for help with some of those, but nobody replied so far (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-May/033229.html) | 09:45 |
| RAOF | cdbs: To oneiric? All the dropped patches should be in 2.15.0. | 09:46 |
| seb128 | RAOF, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.oneiric/rdepends...? | 09:46 |
| cdbs | RAOF: Yeah, you're right. Correct | 09:46 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i like green: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/FirefoxUpgradeChecklist/5.0 | 09:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i want more of it :) | 09:52 |
| * RAOF wonders why we have *two* openjdk-6 source packages in main. | 10:03 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, so your call, drop python-mozembed yet or keep it still for a bit? | 10:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i don't mind too much. we're going to drop it anyway, but should probably keep it for a little bit longer | 10:04 |
| seb128 | well, it will stay available but listed in NBS if we stop building it | 10:05 |
| seb128 | we can rely for NBS binaries for stable though so if it has to stay until next cycle we will need to build it again | 10:05 |
| seb128 | ok, let me drop it from the build following debian's lead, if there is any issue we can revert that part of the diff | 10:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ works for you? | 10:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, that's fine :) | 10:06 |
| ogra_ | where does that horrid fullscreen crash message come from i see in oneiric, and is there a way to turn that off ? | 10:07 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, gnome-session. see the scrollback ;) | 10:08 |
| ogra_ | oh, i should read first, sorry :) | 10:08 |
| * ogra_ just got in again :) | 10:08 | |
| ogra_ | i can reliably make it crash by starting xchat under unity-2d | 10:11 |
| popey | cjwatson: thanks | 10:11 |
| ogra_ | btw, beyond that (and teh missing themes) oneiric runs awesome on arm :) | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish people would stop reporting bugs against firefox about the moonlight plugin not working | 10:19 |
| RAOF | Ah. *That's* why there are two openjdk-6 sources in main. One's for armel. This build is going to be fun! | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, you won a WI on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-mozilla-rapid-release-maintenance \o/ | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | (although, it's done already) ;) | 10:46 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ;-) | 10:46 |
| seb128 | that's the best kind :p | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 10:46 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, btw you can probably drop the g-c-c 00_disable-nm.patch if you want with the new nm in oneiric | 11:24 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, it's already in? | 11:25 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, 0.8.9997 has been uploaded on tuesday | 11:25 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's enough or not | 11:25 |
| seb128 | on monday rather | 11:26 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, I'll try building it | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | hmm, is lightdm supposed to give me a working session after login yet ? | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | in oeniric that is | 11:32 |
| seb128 | yes | 11:32 |
| * ogra_ only gets the Xorg cross cursor | 11:32 | |
| ogra_ | and it seems it only starts the xserver | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | nothing in the processlist | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | (ubuntu 2d is preselected and works fine in gdm) | 11:33 |
| seb128 | check your .xsession-errors? | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | hmm, will do | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | but it doesnt look like it even gets that far | 11:34 |
| jagdeep | hi everybody,I want some help i get installed google chromium on ubuntu 11.04 but it does not run . | 11:34 |
| geser | I got only a X when I tested lightdm too | 11:36 |
| Tommeh | jagdeep: try running 'chromium-browser' from a terminal | 11:36 |
| Tommeh | It might give you an error that helps. | 11:36 |
| ogra_ | geser, ah, cool, so its not arch specific | 11:36 |
| ogra_ | (/me is running on arm here) | 11:37 |
| * geser on amd64 | 11:37 | |
| ogra_ | and as i suspected, .xsession-errors is empty | 11:37 |
| geser | I've setup lightdm with auto-login and get logged in on boot but I something "crashes" and I've to log out but only get a X afterwards (trying to restart lightdm doesn't show a login window either) | 11:38 |
| jagdeep | tommeh:I tried it and got this message "Segmentation fault" | 11:40 |
| Tommeh | sudo apt-get install --reinstall chromium-browser | 11:41 |
| geser | ogra_: does your monitor freeze when you try to stop lightdm? (I get the X displayed but can't either move it nor switch the virtual console) | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | geser, it starts X on tty1 ;) | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | try ctrl-alt-f2 | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | nothing freezes here, but no session is executed | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | even creating .xsession and selecting user defined session does nothing | 11:43 |
| seb128 | open a bug or email robert_ancell | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | aha | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | WARNING: Failed to fork: Cannot allocate memory | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | last famous line in lightdm.log :) | 11:46 |
| jagdeep | Tommeh:same msg again after reinstallation | 11:48 |
| Tommeh | Bad times | 11:48 |
| Tommeh | Try cleaning your package cache | 11:49 |
| Tommeh | Then running the reinstall again | 11:49 |
| Tommeh | sudo apt-get clean-all (I think) | 11:49 |
| seb128 | ogra_, what greater do you use? | 11:49 |
| seb128 | the gtk one? | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | the default one if i install the lightdm package | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | i think its gtk, yep | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | lightdm-greeter-example-gtk | 11:50 |
| jagdeep | clean-all is not an operation | 11:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, jo really shouldn't have left half a cheesecake in the fridge | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | hmm. the vala-gtk greeter doesnt show up at all | 12:13 |
| ogra_ | k, the vala greeter works better | 12:19 |
| ogra_ | oh my, gnome3 fallback is ugly | 12:20 |
| * ogra_ feels visually reminded on hildon | 12:20 | |
| chrisccoulson | oneiric is ugly in general atm without having a gtk3 version of ambiance ;) | 12:21 |
| ogra_ | i meant more the visual clunkyness and the centered clock ... | 12:22 |
| ogra_ | the panels are huge at 1024x600 | 12:22 |
| jagdeep | hi everyone ,I need little help when i run google-chromium through terminal i get message :"Segmentation fault",what it means and why it does not run. | 12:46 |
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| hallyn | which package does unity2d ship in? | 14:08 |
| cyphermox | good morning! | 14:18 |
| cyphermox | hallyn: unity-2d? | 14:19 |
| bcurtiswx | good morn all | 14:22 |
| cyphermox | hey bcurtiswx | 14:23 |
| bcurtiswx | hey :) | 14:23 |
| hallyn | cyphermox: i don't seem to have such a package | 14:25 |
| hallyn | hm | 14:25 |
| hallyn | well i swear it was offering it to me at login as an option, but apparently not on this laptop... | 14:26 |
| hallyn | cyphermox: thanks | 14:26 |
| geser | hallyn: oneiric? select "Ubuntu 2D" to get unity-2d | 14:51 |
| hallyn | thanks - my laptop is natty, i just needed to know what to file a bug against. | 14:53 |
| hallyn | and thought i *had* 2d, but obviously don't | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, i added the empathy count for the launcher to telepathy-indicator, uploading in a few | 15:42 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, great! i am reading through the docbook for tp | 15:43 |
| bcurtiswx | trying to understand your code | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:43 |
| * bcurtiswx thinks kenvandine needs a -doc build ;) | 15:43 | |
| kenvandine | hehe... not a library :) | 15:44 |
| bcurtiswx | its libken ;) | 15:48 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, are you have it build, or wait for us to test? | 15:50 |
| bcurtiswx | going to...* | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | you can grab the package branch, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/telepathy-indicator/ubuntu and build it locally | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | not sure how busy the builders are | 15:50 |
| bcurtiswx | OK so it's going to be maintained by desktop team, cool | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | yup | 15:52 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, i thought the ~ubuntu-desktop was only supposed to contain the debian directory? it pulled it all here | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | nah | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | this is a source package branch | 15:56 |
| bcurtiswx | ok | 15:56 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, what revision has launcher numbers? | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | 0.0.2 | 15:59 |
| bcurtiswx | in vcs | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | rev 30 | 16:02 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, so upon clicking the launcher on a new IM, in natty didn't that open a window? or was that strictly the me-menu? | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | should just open the contact list | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | OK | 16:12 |
| bcurtiswx | works fine here | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:23 |
| seb128 | cdbs, the vino discussion is not really specific to desktop especially that the concern are security ones that's why I didn't point the submitter the desktop list on the bug... | 16:39 |
| bcurtiswx | seb seems to be fighting the internet and the internet keeps winning | 18:13 |
| bcurtiswx | for those that don't have join/part he's going of lot of that ;) | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | quiet day :) | 19:26 |
| bryceh | :-) | 21:46 |
| bcurtiswx | :D | 21:49 |
| bcurtiswx | how long is ssh timeout and can you change that? | 21:50 |
| bcurtiswx | if anyone is interested, i have empathy 3.1.1 with location and map enabled in my PPA | 22:30 |
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