chrisccoulson | will hopefully get the beta builds in to the thunderbird-beta PPA tomorrow | 00:01 |
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chrisccoulson | **thunderbird-next PPA, even ;) | 00:01 |
chrisccoulson | need to set up a VM to test them in first though | 00:02 |
chrisccoulson | unless anyone else not running oneiric wants to test some builds ;) | 00:02 |
fta | chrisccoulson, got your windows buttons back? | 00:07 |
chrisccoulson | fta - not yet, but i've not tried upgrading anything yet | 00:07 |
chrisccoulson | did you? | 00:07 |
fta | nope | 00:07 |
chrisccoulson | i was going to try downgrading the metacity libs actually, that's the most likely culprit | 00:07 |
fta | i wonder if it's a conspiracy | 00:08 |
fta | i remember reading somewhere that it was planed for post natty | 00:08 |
micahg | fta: I'm not happy about r796 in chromium-browser.head at least for the archive builds | 00:08 |
micahg | do you know what the diff is? | 00:09 |
fta | micahg, i'm just aligning it with upstream. it's -O3 vs -02 | 00:09 |
micahg | fta: can't you just set that bit explicitly rather than unsetting our toolchain flags? | 00:09 |
fta | and -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions | 00:10 |
fta | it's in gyp, and it's best to not override it so it's the same as what upstream tracks with their perf tests we don't do | 00:11 |
fta | there's also PIE they don't do | 00:12 |
micahg | that change was only for gyp, not all of chromium? | 00:12 |
fta | as chrisccoulson said a while ago, our binary has 1000 times more relocations, so it starts slower, and that sucks | 00:13 |
fta | no, think of gyp as autoconf/configure. their flags are in a .gyp/.gypi file | 00:14 |
fta | most probably common.gypi here | 00:14 |
micahg | fta: k, I should talk to my team before I comment more, I'm lacking bits of information about the toolchain | 00:16 |
fta | well, i've been doing that for the codecs since day 1, it doesn't even build otherwise | 00:17 |
fta | and it's like the non system-libs thing in ff and ch, it's to stay closer to upstream and benefit from their tests & QA | 00:18 |
micahg | right, my question is how much our build flags help in the security of the build | 00:18 |
fta | it's just CFLAGS="-g -O2 -g -O2 -Wall" CXXFLAGS="-g -O2 -g -O2 -Wall" CPPFLAGS="" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions" | 00:19 |
fta | nothing else | 00:19 |
micahg | fta: ah, so the answer is it doesn't then :), so it's fine | 00:20 |
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chrisccoulson | i thought there was a third party PPA that someone was using to provide seamonkey builds. i can't find it though, or did i just imagine that ever existed? | 16:18 |
fta | chr1sccoulson, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=seamonkey | 16:21 |
chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, i had a look there, but i don't see what i thought i was looking for. | 16:24 |
fta | chrisccoulson, not even https://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2/+archive/seamonkey2 ? | 16:25 |
fta | https://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2 stable, testing and pre-release | 16:25 |
chrisccoulson | fta - that might be it, but i thought i would recognize the maintainers name | 16:26 |
chrisccoulson | ah, i e-mailed him anyway | 16:29 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: ping | 16:48 |
chrisccoulson | hi m_conley, how are you? | 16:48 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: pretty good, and you? | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | m_conley, yeah, not too bad thanks. just trying to get enigmail working :) | 16:49 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: gotcha, gotcha. You probably know why I'm pinging you... | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | yeah ;) | 16:50 |
fta | dpm, hi, which list should i write to to request translations? | 16:50 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: any word? | 16:50 |
chrisccoulson | so, pitti is on vacation again today. i'm just talking to allison right now though | 16:50 |
dpm | hi fta, launchpad-translators (at) lists (dot) launchpad (dot) net | 16:50 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: alright. | 16:50 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: we'll hear within the next few hours? | 16:51 |
fta | dpm, thanks | 16:52 |
chrisccoulson | m_conley, so, the answer is that we can't fit it on unless we can either get it down to a size comparable to evo (which I don't think is possible), or find something else to remove from the CD :( | 16:52 |
m_conley | chrisccoulson: hey - can we pull this into #thunderbird-unity? I think bwinton is in there. | 16:52 |
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micahg | chrisccoulson: what's the question about seamonkey? | 17:38 |
fta | dpm, there's a question in the m-l i can't answer, care to help? ;) | 18:17 |
fta | oh, not sure it went to the m-l | 18:18 |
dpm | fta, no, it seems it didn't, it's not in my inbox | 18:21 |
fta | dpm, jsut forwarded it to you | 18:21 |
dpm | ok, thanks | 18:22 |
micahg | wow thunderbird 3.1 -> 5.0 is an 8MB jump | 18:35 |
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Omega | chrisccoulson: Have you heard anything more about the space-issue? | 19:20 |
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eric_ | yo, the tb 5.0 that just landed is just a reversioned 3.3, right? | 19:32 |
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chrisccoulson | eric_, it's just the latest beta | 20:06 |
fta | jdstrand, did you notice my ping about apparmor + evince on oneiric? | 20:36 |
jdstrand | fta: i did. i ackd it | 20:42 |
jdstrand | fta: I snagged the log and made a note. I haven't been able to fix it yet | 20:43 |
fta | ok | 20:44 |
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