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chrisccoulsonwill hopefully get the beta builds in to the thunderbird-beta PPA tomorrow00:01
chrisccoulson**thunderbird-next PPA, even ;)00:01
chrisccoulsonneed to set up a VM to test them in first though00:02
chrisccoulsonunless anyone else not running oneiric wants to test some builds ;)00:02
ftachrisccoulson, got your windows buttons back?00:07
chrisccoulsonfta - not yet, but i've not tried upgrading anything yet00:07
chrisccoulsondid you?00:07
ftanope00:07
chrisccoulsoni was going to try downgrading the metacity libs actually, that's the most likely culprit00:07
ftai wonder if it's a conspiracy00:08
ftai remember reading somewhere that it was planed for post natty00:08
micahgfta: I'm not happy about r796 in chromium-browser.head at least for the archive builds00:08
micahgdo you know what the diff is?00:09
ftamicahg, i'm just aligning it with upstream. it's -O3 vs -0200:09
micahgfta: can't you just set that bit explicitly rather than unsetting our toolchain flags?00:09
ftaand -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions00:10
ftait's in gyp, and it's best to not override it so it's the same as what upstream tracks with their perf tests we don't do00:11
ftathere's also PIE they don't do00:12
micahgthat change was only for gyp, not all of chromium?00:12
ftaas chrisccoulson said a while ago, our binary has 1000 times more relocations, so it starts slower, and that sucks00:13
ftano, think of gyp as autoconf/configure. their flags are in a .gyp/.gypi file00:14
ftamost probably common.gypi here00:14
micahgfta: k, I should talk to my team before I comment more, I'm lacking bits of information about the toolchain00:16
ftawell, i've been doing that for the codecs since day 1, it doesn't even build otherwise00:17
ftaand it's like the non system-libs thing in ff and ch, it's to stay closer to upstream and benefit from their tests & QA00:18
micahgright, my question is how much our build flags help in the security of the build00:18
ftait's just CFLAGS="-g -O2 -g -O2 -Wall" CXXFLAGS="-g -O2 -g -O2 -Wall" CPPFLAGS="" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions"00:19
ftanothing else00:19
micahgfta: ah, so the answer is it doesn't then :), so it's fine00:20
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chrisccoulsoni thought there was a third party PPA that someone was using to provide seamonkey builds. i can't find it though, or did i just imagine that ever existed?16:18
ftachr1sccoulson, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=seamonkey16:21
chrisccoulsonfta - yeah, i had a look there, but i don't see what i thought i was looking for.16:24
ftachrisccoulson, not even https://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2/+archive/seamonkey2 ?16:25
ftahttps://launchpad.net/~seamonkey2  stable, testing and pre-release16:25
chrisccoulsonfta - that might be it, but i thought i would recognize the maintainers name16:26
chrisccoulsonah, i e-mailed him anyway16:29
m_conleychrisccoulson: ping16:48
chrisccoulsonhi m_conley, how are you?16:48
m_conleychrisccoulson: pretty good, and you?16:49
chrisccoulsonm_conley, yeah, not too bad thanks. just trying to get enigmail working :)16:49
m_conleychrisccoulson: gotcha, gotcha.  You probably know why I'm pinging you...16:49
chrisccoulsonyeah ;)16:50
ftadpm, hi, which list should i write to to request translations?16:50
m_conleychrisccoulson: any word?16:50
chrisccoulsonso, pitti is on vacation again today. i'm just talking to allison right now though16:50
dpmhi fta, launchpad-translators (at) lists (dot) launchpad (dot) net16:50
m_conleychrisccoulson: alright.16:50
m_conleychrisccoulson: we'll hear within the next few hours?16:51
ftadpm, thanks16:52
chrisccoulsonm_conley, so, the answer is that we can't fit it on unless we can either get it down to a size comparable to evo (which I don't think is possible), or find something else to remove from the CD :(16:52
m_conleychrisccoulson: hey - can we pull this into #thunderbird-unity?  I think bwinton is in there.16:52
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micahgchrisccoulson: what's the question about seamonkey?17:38
ftadpm, there's a question in the m-l i can't answer, care to help? ;)18:17
ftaoh, not sure it went to the m-l18:18
dpmfta, no, it seems it didn't, it's not in my inbox18:21
ftadpm, jsut forwarded it to you18:21
dpmok, thanks18:22
micahgwow thunderbird 3.1 -> 5.0 is an 8MB jump18:35
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Omegachrisccoulson: Have you heard anything more about the space-issue?19:20
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eric_yo, the tb 5.0 that just landed is just a reversioned 3.3, right?19:32
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chrisccoulsoneric_, it's just the latest beta20:06
ftajdstrand, did you notice my ping about apparmor + evince on oneiric?20:36
jdstrandfta: i did. i ackd it20:42
jdstrandfta: I snagged the log and made a note. I haven't been able to fix it yet20:43
ftaok20:44
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