[00:40] <sw0rdfish> how can one download stuff from websites like rapidshare/hotfile
[00:40] <sw0rdfish> into a server?
[00:41] <sw0rdfish> links2 and w3m can't have javascript supported
[00:41] <sw0rdfish> so is there a solutoin
[00:43] <robrt`> sw0rdfish: I usually scp it over..
[01:03] <sw0rdfish> you mean get it to your home pc
[01:03] <sw0rdfish> then scp into the server
[01:03] <sw0rdfish> i think thats easy if you have good internet speed from home
[01:03] <sw0rdfish> i dont
[01:04] <sw0rdfish> but if you mean scp directly from those sites, hmmm i dont think so
[01:04] <littlebearz> sw0rdfish: use wget?
[01:04] <sw0rdfish> robrt`,
[01:04] <sw0rdfish> but they make you click on the thing "Free Download" or "Slow download"
[01:04] <sw0rdfish> and give u a special link ...etc
[01:05] <robrt`> sw0rdfish: Yeah .. download it home and scp it over to my server
[01:05] <sw0rdfish> there's a program i've been recommended,, rapidleech
[01:05] <sw0rdfish> will try it out :(
[01:05] <sw0rdfish> :)*
[01:41] <Heyho> is there any terminal way, i can check if the computer was used in the last x minutes?
[01:44] <guampa> lastlog ?
[01:44] <Heyho> the comment lastlog doesnt give me any useful infos :/
[01:45] <guampa> too bad
[01:46] <Heyho> the thing is i want to start bitcoin miner if i idle :D any ideas?
[01:48] <Tm0> Hi i need to using Cron, i need to backup and restore a demoboard
[03:13] <Ash-Fox> Greetings. I'm currently trying to store my syslog data 'auth,authpriv.*' directly on to a tape drive raw. And while I have succeeded in doing so, I have ran into a problem where I need to be able to run a set of commands to properly load the tape before rsyslog starts (or before it starts logging data to it). Which config files / manuals should I go about reading up on to set this up?
[03:18] <ChmEarl> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[03:19] <ChmEarl> the above initrd.gz for xen netboot is defective. Its not intended for use as advertised; its too big and has no xen modules
[03:20] <ChmEarl> the equivalent maverick version is OK
[03:22] <BuenGenio> good day
[03:23] <BuenGenio> I'm looking for dovecot 2 packages for Maverick
[03:23] <BuenGenio> are there any available
[03:23] <BuenGenio> only found ones for Lucid so far, from Christian Roessner
[03:25] <Sanctusorium> I am running into some real trouble with trying to install a GUI into Ubuntu Server 10.04.  I've done apt-get ubuntu-desktop, I've installed VNC, and I am connected to the "desktop" via VNC, but I have just a grey background and a terminal window
[03:25] <Sanctusorium> Any ideas? :(
[03:26] <roothorick> So, for my home swiss-army-knife server why should I choose Ubuntu Server over Debian?
[03:29] <jonesst1> pick the one u ike
[03:29] <jonesst1> like
[03:30] <jonesst1> they all do the same thing
[03:30] <jonesst1> i use debain for home but ive been using it for 12 years
[03:30] <jonesst1> debian
[03:30] <twb> roothorick: no reason
[03:30] <jonesst1> pick the lts version
[03:31] <rewt> Sanctusorium, sounds like it's starting just X and xterm; maybe you want to install gnome or kde or xfce or such?
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> Well, I just tried "startx" and I got this:
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> And it goes "whoops, fail" ... essentially
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> Also, when trying to start gnome, I get similar error
[03:32] <Sanctusorium> So I try to isntall gnome
[03:33] <Sanctusorium> And I get errors.  Should I detail them? :)
[03:33] <Sanctusorium> Or, where should I start? ;)
[03:34] <rewt> do you want to run X locally, or go through vnc?
[03:34] <Sanctusorium> Honestly, I just want to get a GUI set up for this VPS.  I assumed I had to use VNC to see it.
[03:35] <Sanctusorium> Locally, I am on a windows machine.  The Ubuntu distro is the VPS.
[03:35] <rewt> ah, vps... then i think you have to use vnc
[03:35] <Sanctusorium> Yep.
[03:36] <Sanctusorium> I get connected, but when I do, I get a console window and a grey background.
[03:36] <rewt> so it looks like vncserver starts X and xterm... have a look in the vncserver's config file
[03:37] <rewt> you probably need to add something in there for it to load the gnome/kde desktop
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> Well, it may be trying to start stuff up when I connect, but I can't even start stuff myself in that window or through SSH.
[03:37] <Sanctusorium> When I try to start gnome... I get...
[03:38] <Sanctusorium> gdm-binary[24130]: WARNING: Unable to load file '/etc/gdm/custom.conf': No such file or directory
[03:38] <Sanctusorium> I feel like this VPS is sending me trollface.jpg, haha.
[03:39] <Sanctusorium> When I try to do apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment I get... "Gnome is up to date!" basically.
[03:43] <Sanctusorium> Sorry if I am over loading :(
[03:45] <rewt> what if you create an empty /etc/gdm/custom.conf, and then try gdm in the xterm you get via vnc
[03:45] <jonesst1> in startup try "gnome-session &"
[03:45] <rewt> i'm not sure what the cmd is to start the gnome desktop
[03:46] <jonesst1> you need to hash out #twm and the xterm statement
[03:46] <jonesst1> for vnc
[03:48] <Sanctusorium> rewt, I have been using gdm start for trying to start Gnome
[03:48] <Sanctusorium> jonesst1: what is #twm and xterm statement?
[03:48] <Sanctusorium> :(
[03:49] <jonesst1> sorry u wanted gnome in a vnc session?
[03:49] <jonesst1> thats what i set
[03:49] <Sanctusorium> Whao!
[03:49] <Sanctusorium> gnome-session & worked
[03:49] <Sanctusorium> wtf why?
[03:49] <Sanctusorium> o.o;
[03:51] <rewt> gnome-session starts the desktop part of gnome, and the & tells it to detach from the terminal and keep running in the background
[03:53] <Sanctusorium> Nice!  So simple that hours of googling provided nothing
[03:54] <Sanctusorium> So.  How do I fix it to where this automatically happens whenever there is a VNC connection?
[03:55] <Sanctusorium> (thank you both by the way... This is so much more awesome now that things are moving... :D )
[03:55] <rewt> there should be a file in your ~ that loads when you connect via vnc
[03:55] <Sanctusorium> mmm.  Issue...  When I do dir/ls in ~, it doesn't print anything.
[03:56] <rewt> how about ll ~
[03:56] <rewt> (double lowercase L)
[03:56] <Sanctusorium> Let me see when the reboot is finished :)
[03:56] <jonesst1> I think you can put it under /etc/
[03:56] <rewt> what file is it?
[03:57] <jonesst1> im just looking
[03:58] <Sanctusorium> ll gave me some kind of feed back.  I assume the names on the far right are the folder/file names?
[03:58] <rewt> maybe someting like ~/.vncrc
[03:58] <rewt> yes Sanctusorium
[03:58] <Sanctusorium> Ah
[03:58] <Sanctusorium> .vnc/
[03:59] <rewt> the ones that start with a period are hidden from regular ls
[03:59] <rewt> go in there and look for a conf
[03:59] <Sanctusorium> So, everything in that list was hidden
[03:59] <Sanctusorium> Thats wonderful xD
[04:00] <Sanctusorium> would xstartup be a good place to start? :D
[04:00] <rewt> sounds promising
[04:00] <rewt> or try: grep "xterm" *
[04:01] <Sanctusorium> In the console or in the xstartupfile?
[04:01] <rewt> in the console in ~/.vnc/
[04:01] <Sanctusorium> Okie
[04:01] <rewt> it'll show you which files have that in it
[04:01] <rewt> the one you have to change should have it
[04:02] <Sanctusorium> grep "xterm" * gave nothing
[04:02] <rewt> grep "term" *
[04:03] <Sanctusorium> I just have a log, a .pid, passwd, and xstartup that is in green text and has a * at the end for some reason
[04:03] <rewt> hm, looks like .vnc/xstartup is the right file
[04:04] <rewt> http://faq.gotomyvnc.com/fom-serve/cache/56.html
[04:04] <Sanctusorium> What is twm?
[04:04] <Sanctusorium> I mean, seems to be an alternative to Gnome...
[04:04] <rewt> that's the "grey background" you have now
[04:04] <Sanctusorium> My guess at least
[04:04] <Sanctusorium> AH
[04:04] <rewt> tiny window manager
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> This... makes more sense now
[04:05] <rewt> iirc, a right click brings up a menu
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> Yep
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> Well
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> Only in the console
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> Background? nada
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> It was kinda saddening
[04:05] <rewt> maybe it needs a config
[04:05] <rewt> hehe
[04:05] <rewt> well, try replacing it as in that link and see
[04:05] <Sanctusorium> Probably... I'm a REAL newb to server stuff ;)
[04:06] <Sanctusorium> Or linux bash
[04:07] <Sanctusorium> I don't see twm & at all
[04:07] <roothorick> what will the next LTS be? 11.10?
[04:07] <roothorick> 12.04?
[04:07] <rewt> should be 12.04
[04:08] <rewt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[04:08] <rewt> Sanctusorium, what do you see?
[04:08] <Sanctusorium> Okie, the last line in the file is x-window-manager &  I am assuming that needs to be there
[04:09] <Sanctusorium> So, I just added gnome-session & to the end.
[04:10] <rewt> sure
[04:11] <Sanctusorium> And I forgot how to start vnc up :P Great.
[04:11] <Sanctusorium> One second
[04:12] <Sanctusorium> yay google
[04:12] <Sanctusorium> AWESOME
[04:12] <Sanctusorium> :D
[04:12] <Sanctusorium> Gnome started right up
[04:13] <rewt> nice
[04:13] <Sanctusorium> I still don't understand why there were a million different errors in the console with other things, but I guess if it works, it works.
[04:14] <Sanctusorium> Thanks, ya'll have been a god send.
[04:14] <Sanctusorium> :)
[04:14] <rewt> np
[04:15] <Sanctusorium> Now to install wine.  Gonna see if I can get a terraria server up...
[04:15] <Sanctusorium> :)
[04:17] <Sanctusorium> Oh!  will gnome shut itself down when I disconnect?
[04:18] <rewt> probably not
[04:22] <Sanctusorium> I guess it would be wise to shut it down on DC then :)
[04:25] <roothorick> is root-on-MD-RAID a PITA on ubuntu?
[04:45] <oamaru> been following https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html with limited success (complains --tmpfs is an unknown option) anyone able to point me at a better resource
[04:45] <i2v8an> hi, I'm having an issue with figuring out how to change the default keys with the .screenrc file.  Could someone please help me?
[04:49] <i2v8an> never mind,  one last try after an hour of google'ing finally gave me what I was looking for: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/screen-power-tips-screenrc/
[04:50] <Sanctusorium> So, I want to turn off gnome for ram saving.
[04:50] <twb> Sanctusorium: I'm not stopping you
[04:50] <Sanctusorium> when I do gnome-session-save --kill I get:
[04:50] <Sanctusorium> WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[04:50] <twb> That's dbus whinging
[04:51] <Sanctusorium> Hm?
[04:51] <twb> your command is trying to send a dbus signal, probably to gnome-session-manager(1)
[04:51] <Sanctusorium> Ah.  So, how do I fix this? :)
[04:52] <Sanctusorium> I just want gnome to go bye bye when I am done with it .
[04:53] <twb> That's kinda offtopic for this channel
[04:53] <twb> If it were me, I'd just Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[04:53] <twb> Or pkill -9 -u twb, to kill all processes owned by my user
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> I need to execute a command before rsyslog starts / starts logging, how would I do this?
[06:20] <twb> Ash-Fox: pre-start exec in the upstart job?
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> twb, I'll look into that
[06:31] <airtonix> an ideal django apacher server setup has us create a separate subdomain for static and user uploaded files : static.example.com & media.example.com, my issue is that i have generated a self signed ssl certificate for the website ie: example.com, but this certificate does not apply to the subdomains, i imagine i have to do something with chain certificates ? if so, how ? where is a guide with this in relation to aache on ubuntu-server 10.04.2
[06:33] <littlebearz> the host *.example.com should take care of it i believe
[06:33] <airtonix> could you elaborate ?
[06:34] <airtonix> are you saying that i enter *.example.com instead of example.com when i generate the certificate? (when asked for the hostname)
[06:35] <jmarsden> airtonix: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHosts
[06:39] <littlebearz> airtonix: i'm saying you do both
[06:39] <littlebearz> airtonix: the example.com is your base, and then *.example.com is all your subdomin
[06:40] <littlebearz> airtonix: or you could seperate it into 2 cert which is easier to manage
[06:51] <airtonix> so i just generate more certificates and add them the to the vhost definition file ?
[06:54] <airtonix> jmarsden: thanks
[06:55] <jmarsden> airtonix: You're welcome.
[07:19] <airtonix> ok so now that i've figured that out, and while it's an ok setup for a local dev server or college network etc etc, what do i do about a certificate that has been issued by someone like godaddy ? do i need to call them and say "guys, i need my subdomains covered by this certificate ? "
[07:20] <airtonix> considering i need the certificate to cover variations of example.com like : www.example.com, www.example.com.au, example.com.au and all it's related subdomains for static and media
[07:30] <SpamapS> airtonix: wildcard certs are usually fairly expensive
[07:31] <philipballew> is 10.04 better for a file server or would 11.04 be buggy compared to 10.04?
[07:31] <SpamapS> airtonix: or at least, more expensive than non wildcard
[07:31] <twb> philipballew: IMO use LTS unless you have a good reason not to
[07:32] <SpamapS> philipballew: "better or worse" is probably impossible to determine without knowing your needs. 10.04 will receive critical updates until April, 2015 , 11.04 will only receive them until October, 2012
[07:32] <philipballew> im setting up a simple media server. all i need is the ability to ssh into it and share my media folder. i think 10.04 sounds good to me
[07:32] <SpamapS> philipballew: yeah sounds like it
[07:35] <philipballew> Spamp5 I think it should be fun. only used the desktop version and whenm i need a server running i figured i'd give it a try!
[07:35] <philipballew> Spamap5 ...
[07:41] <adam_g> SpamapS: you still admin ubuntu-server list?
[07:44] <SpamapS> adam_g: yes indeed
[07:46] <adam_g> SpamapS: trying to consolidate my lists to my @canonical.com account but my membership request to there was never approved (that i know of). can you keep an eye out and approve if i resubmit?
[07:49] <SpamapS> adam_g: its not a moderated list so you should be able to have it send you a new password
[07:50] <adam_g> hm, ok. wonder if confirmation got lost originally.. thanx
[07:51] <SpamapS> adam_g: if you can't get it worked out I'll go in and see if I can manually approve you
[07:53] <adam_g> SpamapS: actually im a tired moron. :) its ubuntu-server-bugs that i was having trouble getting subscribed to.
[07:53] <osmosis> how can I do a full reinstall of build-essential.  it got messed up when I canceled during the install.
[07:53] <SpamapS> adam_g: oh, I find that list 100% useless ;)
[07:53] <SpamapS> its basically the firehose
[07:54] <adam_g> i want cell phone alerts
[07:54] <SpamapS> There's a bug! QUICK! To the packaging bat cave!
[08:36] <osmosis> i hit CTRL-C while  apt-get install build-essential  was running.  now ./configure wont work.  How can I do a full reinstall of build-essential?
[08:43] <TeTeT> osmosis: I'd try apt-get install --reinstall build-essential
[08:43] <TeTeT> osmosis: and maybe apt-get -f install if the above is not working
[09:51] <jamespage> hallyn: when you get a change ping me with the contents of /var/log/jenkins/*.log
[09:51] <jamespage> /change/chance/
[09:52] <browntechx> Who want to help me
[09:59] <greppy> browntechx: that's going to depend on what your problem is, better to start with that.
[10:00] <browntechx> Well, I'm going to run an IRC network off of a Ubuntu powered server
[10:00] <browntechx> So how do I do that
[10:01] <greppy> You would probably install an ircd and then configure it.
[10:02] <browntechx> How do I do that
[10:02] <browntechx> Noob here
[10:02] <browntechx> :)
[10:03] <greppy> are you going to be joining an existing network, like efnet, dalnet, freenode, etc?
[10:05] <browntechx> I will be
[10:05] <greppy> then you should contact that network and find out what ircd and what network specific configurations you will need.
[10:06] <browntechx> No UbuntuServer GUI... Sadface
[10:06] <greppy> you can install a gui on a server, most people don't really have a use for one.
[10:06] <browntechx> Oka, nvm
[11:06] <benedikt> I am replacing an old mail office server that is running Mailscanner amongst other things to spam and virus filter emails to various domains. What is the most logical replacement for this on ubuntu?
[11:06] <benedikt> This server was set up by an odd howto (http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-spamsnake-ubuntu-8.04-p2)
[11:08] <greppy> benedikt: I have been happy with amavisd-new + spamassassin + clamav + greylisting
[11:09] <benedikt> greppy: I saw that in the ubuntu server guide. Is there a web interface (to keep my boss happy) for it?
[11:09] <greppy> that depends :)
[11:10] <greppy> I have actually been using a previous version of http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/spamfilter20110303.html with http://froxlor.org for hosting.
[11:10] <benedikt> spammers have really messed the internet up.
[11:11] <greppy> heh
[11:11] <greppy> just be glad that sendmail doesn't relay by default anymore :)
[11:18] <benedikt> on second thought, converting this box to a kvm/qemu virtual machine is probably less work
[11:20] <benedikt> anyone know why the wiki insists that virtual guests should not use ntp?
[11:21] <greppy> because by default they get the clock from the dom0
[11:21] <benedikt> isnt dom0 a xen term?
[11:21] <greppy> you can run ntp on a guest, you just have to make some other tweaks
[11:21] <greppy> same idea though
[11:22] <greppy> it gets time from the host
[11:22] <benedikt> im not sure if i am running kvm or qemu, i set the server up according to the libvirt wiki page
[11:22] <benedikt> it mentions both kvm and qemu
[11:23] <greppy> I've never setup kvm, and only used qemu under windows, so I won't be of much help there.
[11:34] <benedikt> as long as you don't call it 'the cloud' :)
[11:54] <cocoa117> what is EC2 kernel for Ubuntu?
[11:55] <lynxman> cocoa117: you can find the official Ubuntu AMIs with their krnel image ID in this doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide
[11:56] <Patrickdk> for running on amazon ec2, or as a xen guest
[11:57] <cocoa117> lynxman, thanx
[11:57] <cocoa117> Patrickdk, great, that's what i am looking for, a Xen domU image from Ubuntu official channel
[12:00] <Patrickdk> console won't work
[12:00] <Patrickdk> but otherwise it worked well for me
[12:20] <cocoa117> Patrickdk, what do u mean the console won't work?
[12:20] <cocoa117> you can't do sudo xm console abc to login?
[12:57] <sommer> morning :-)
[13:01] <cocoa117> if i am running private Xen dom0, and wants to use official ubuntu UEC image, say 10.04, should i just download the ubuntu-10.04-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz  file?
[13:01] <cocoa117> and run it under xen dom0?
[13:15] <TeTeT> cocoa117: I have 0 experience with xen, but I think yet, the kernel should have support for domU
[13:15] <TeTeT> cocoa117: yet=yes
[13:15] <cocoa117> TeTet, thanx
[13:16] <TeTeT> cocoa117: there's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen . but as written above, I've not verified anything. Good luck with that!
[13:17] <jamespage> morning sommer
[13:17] <cocoa117> TeTeT, that link was out of date, that's why i am looking at different terms
[13:22] <zul> RoAkSoAx: got some cobbler patches for me?
[13:35] <zul> lynxman: ping
[13:35] <lynxman> zul: pong
[13:36] <zul> lynxman: so mcollective-plugins a couple of more things
[13:36] <lynxman> zul: shoot
[13:36] <zul> lynxman: get rid of the watch file
[13:36] <dkn> i'm still having trouble setting up br0 to bond0 http://pastebin.com/KxwRDPNi
[13:37] <zul> lynxman: also  i dont really like 0.0.0~git20110520 as a version string, 20110520 as a version string should be fine
[13:37] <lynxman> zul: okay so just 20110520
[13:37] <lynxman> zul: gotcha
[13:38] <lynxman> zul: then... if there's a release at some point (1.0.0 or such) how that'll affect numbering?
[13:38] <zul> hmmm...are they actually going to do releases?
[13:38] <lynxman> zul: yes
[13:39] <zul> ok leave as it is then
[13:39] <lynxman> zul: k
[13:40] <zul> lynxman: also your override_dh_install is wrong it installs puppet-package.rb in the wrong place
[13:41] <lynxman> zul: puppet-package.rb shouldn't be installed, I rename it in rules to package.rb
[13:42] <zul> lynxman: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/617498/
[13:42] <lynxman> zul: so how would you recommend I get rid of it?
[13:42] <lynxman> zul: err nevermind, I see the problem
[13:42] <lynxman> zul: fixing
[13:43] <lynxman> zul: all pushed to repo
[13:44] <zul> k
[13:50] <zul> ill take a new look in a sec
[13:50] <zul> Daviey: ping
[13:52] <Daviey> zul pongs
[13:53] <zul> so for the cobbler next steps spec WI the hardware inventory and snapshot repotnig i just noticed that there is couchdb support so we can store the info there
[13:57] <hallyn> jamespage: lol, that instance is long deleted, but i can quickly create a new one (in a bit)
[13:58] <hallyn> jamespage: last night iw as trying to figure out how to add a slave node,
[13:58] <hallyn> figuring that, while 'ensemble deploy jenkins', which works now, is neat, it'd be more interesting to be able to add nodes on demand
[13:58] <hallyn> but i couldn't quite figure out how to do it from the web interface, let alone cli
[13:59] <hallyn> i gather i need to create an ssh key and register it somewhere, but the web interface has two places for adding ssh keys, neither seems to be fore slave nodes
[14:02] <jamespage> hallyn - there are a few ways todo it; I'll be back in about 10 mins and I'll give you a few pointers
[14:08] <hallyn> sigh, i really need to get an ssd
[14:09] <Daviey> zul: ah, nice about the couchdb (even tho i don't like it :P)
[14:10] <zul> well need to store the info
[14:19] <jamespage> hey hallyn - want to talk jenkins slaves now?
[14:33] <zul> lynxman: uploaded
[14:38] <lynxman> zul: ty
[14:38] <lynxman> zul: have a look at mcollective-provisioner as well, let me know what I can fix/change so it can be uploaded to oneiric :)
[14:38] <zul> yep will try to get to it toay
[14:39] <lynxman> zul: thanks
[14:40] <hallyn> jamespage: sure
[14:40] <jamespage> great
[14:41] <hallyn> oh lemme fire off an instance real quick
[14:41] <jamespage> great - we can both look at it then
[14:45] <hallyn> jamespage: it'll be ec2-184-73-78-32.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[14:47] <hallyn> there we go, it's up
[14:48] <hallyn> so does a slave node first get set up as a full jenkins master node?
[14:48] <hallyn> or can it be anything with sshd running?
[15:09] <RoAkSoAx> zul: not yet... got caught up in something else... will have them later though
[15:09] <zul> RoAkSoAx: k because im rolling a new spnapshot
[15:11] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ok I'll let you know as soon as I have them
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[15:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: pong
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: sed -i "s/^server:.*localhost$/next_server: $ipaddr/" /etc/cobbler/settings
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: that should be server instead of next_server right?
[15:23] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm
[15:23] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i thought i fixed that yesterday
[15:23] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: let me grab the code again
[15:24] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: whoops
[15:24] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I'll fix it now, I'm working on the debconf stuff for them
[15:24] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: okay, thanks!
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ;)
[15:47] <rynop> how can you make an AMI out of an instance-store EC2 instance?  My EBS backed instances i can 1 click make AMI from the gui. Havent found a good guide for making ami from instance-store.
[15:47] <rynop> my instance is based off of the 10.10 64bit us-east
[15:58] <Daviey> lynxman: the queue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue :)
[15:58] <lynxman> Daviey: thanks ^^
[15:58]  * lynxman loves when he asks in one server and gets replied in another one, this is true context switching
[15:58] <Daviey> :)
[16:01] <sunil> I want to generate heavy traffic on my network card, how can I do this,
[16:03] <lynxman> ping mvo
[16:04] <genii-around> sunil: You could do something like netcat, stream /dev/random or something
[16:04] <sunil> genii-around: I am looking for about 400MB/s traffic, do you think netcat can do this
[16:05] <genii-around> sunil: I think it would depend on the source of what you are sending. Might be the bottleneck there (like hd speed if it's a file, etc)
[16:05] <sunil> jaskal: I am using 23HDD on RAID0
[16:06] <sunil> jaskal: I am using 23HDD on RAID0
[16:06] <sunil> genii-around: am using 23HDD on RAID0
[16:07] <genii-around> work, afk
[16:07] <sunil> genii-around: 32TB ram
[16:08] <sunil> genii-around: xeon server
[16:17] <genii-around> sunil: If you have a massive file like 4G or so, with 2 machines you do: (machine with file on it)  cat 4g-filename | nc -l portnumber-here       (machine to receive file) nc <ip-of-machine-with-file>  portnumber-here > local-filename   eg: cat ubuntu-server.iso | nc -l 65534        and: nc 192.168.0.100 65534 > ubuntu-server-copy.iso
[16:19] <sunil> genii-around: yes, I think this should work, but I have only one demo server.
[16:20] <genii-around> sunil: If you have 2 interfaces on the same box, you can use a crossover cable between them, then run the serve part on one interface, send it to the second interface
[16:20] <sunil> genii-around: yes, that demo server contains 2 interface
[16:21] <genii-around> sunil: If you do that, add like: -s <ip-address-of-interface-serving-file>  to the first command
[16:21] <sunil> genii-around: can you plz write command clearly for me
[16:23] <sunil> genii-around: nc <ip> <port> < filename
[16:23] <sunil> genii-around: do u think this will work
[16:26] <RoyK> if you have a gigabit interface or a newer 100Mbps card, crossover cable isn't needed - it's autosense
[16:27] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: what's wrong with this, I think I'm missing something: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/617620/
[16:27] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: in the debconf part
[16:27] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: +_Template: cobbler/server_and_next_server
[16:28] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: should not use underscore?
[16:31] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: right, not for that
[16:31] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: just for _Description
[16:32] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok thanks
[16:58] <genii-around> Someone unplugged my network cord in another area of the building, took a while to track down
[17:02] <genii-around> sunil: an example with interface 192.168.0.100 sending file and 192.168.0.200 receiving, here I am sending an iso file:  on sending side: cat /home/mike/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso | nc -l 192.168.0.100 65534      then on receiving side: nc -s 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.200 65534 > /dev/null
[17:26] <slyboots> Anyone any suggestions for running virtualisaion software on a Ubuntu server (headerless host) I've tried Qmem and Virtualbox but both are demanding a full X windows enviroment to run/install
[17:33] <Ekx> Vortexirc looks for linux/chat interested people, if you want to join irc.vortexirc.com 6667  see ya :D
[17:54] <pmatulis> slyboots: kvm i guess
[17:54] <slyboots> pmatulis: I cant even get it to start, complains about no display being available
[17:55] <slyboots> And no kvm support
[17:55] <slyboots> Or "ROM"
[17:55] <pmatulis> !kvm | slyboots
[17:57] <slyboots> Fun, mny board doesnt support virtulasation
[17:58] <slyboots> Well that was fruitful ;)
[17:58] <geekbri> i missed the question, what are you trying to do slyboots?
[17:59] <slyboots> Run a virtual windows OS on my headerless Ubuntu server
[18:00] <slyboots> But apparently Im screwed, board doesnt support virtulasation and Virtualbox wants to install every package under the sun
[18:01] <geekbri> hrm yeah sorry, most of my expierence is with qemu.  I know there is a chapter in the official ubuntu server guide book on installing a vmware server, maybe that would be useful, i really dont know.
[18:01] <geekbri> sorry, wish i could be more of a help.
[18:01] <slyboots> Eh, Will jsut give up :P
[18:01] <slyboots> Figrue out another solution
[18:30] <maccam94> i'm trying to configure my ldap server to use ssl/tls, which involves generating a certificate using gnutls/certtool. the certificate generated from the ubuntu server guide is only valid for one year though. how can i make a certificate that is valid for 3 years?
[18:34] <zul> RoAkSoAx how is the cobbler stuff coming?
[18:34] <RoAkSoAx> zul: almost finished
[18:34] <RoAkSoAx> zul: trying to reduce the description
[18:34] <zul> RoakSoak: cool send me the patch
[18:35] <maccam94> figured out my problem. had to add expiration_days = ### to the end of the ca.info file mentioned in the server guide
[18:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: does this make sense to you (including the description?): http://paste.ubuntu.com/617696/
[18:45] <RoAkSoAx> zul: if this also makes sense to you, then that's it for now http://paste.ubuntu.com/617696/
[18:46] <zul> looks sane
[18:46] <zul> although s/natty/oneiric/g
[18:47] <RoAkSoAx> zul better use this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/617706/
[18:48] <RoAkSoAx> minimally improved the description
[18:52] <zul> RoAkSoAx: cool im going to do a test build then uploade it
[18:54] <RoAkSoAx> zul: cool, thanks
[18:58] <zul> ok new git snapshot uploaded
[19:32] <amero> how do we install packages specifically from a ppa when you have another similar package name from the official repo?
[19:35] <genii-around> !pinning
[19:37] <Daviey> zul: How come you switched to using git$DATE for cobbler version string, i thought we were using bzr rev no?
[19:38] <zul> Daviey: right the ubuntu-virt repo is really old and dated so i thought we should start fresh
[19:39] <zul> besides that delta is based on 2.1.0 and current git diff
[19:41] <Daviey> zul: yeah, but lp:cobbler is constantly up to date :)
[19:42] <zul> right but 2.1.0 we have been using lp:ubuntu/cobbler
[19:42] <Daviey> I'm not sure a git checkout date is safe TBH.. what if there are multiple commits the same day?
[19:43] <Daviey> If you /really/ want to use git as reference, then surely a short hash is better?
[19:43] <Daviey> zul: err, lp:ubuntu/cobbler is unrelated to lp:cobbler
[19:43] <zul> Daviey: right but thats where all of our changes have been done (ie the refrence branch)
[19:44] <Daviey> zul: hmm..
[19:44] <Daviey> sure, but lp:cobbler is purely upstream.
[19:44] <Daviey> does that make sense?
[19:44] <zul> it does
[19:57] <Daviey> SpamapS: So what is ensemble anyway?  Where can i find out more info?
[19:57] <zul> SpamapS: oooh charts!
[19:59] <genii-around> Daviey: I found http://people.canonical.com/~niemeyer/ensemble/index.html pretty informative
[20:00] <amero> is it okay to have 2 libevent libraries of different version? one of them is compiled from source, and the other one is from offical repo
[20:00] <Daviey> sorry genii-around, it was a loaded question. :)
[20:01] <Daviey> but thanks!
[20:01] <genii-around> Heh!
[20:04] <SpamapS> Daviey: why, its good that you asked..  http://fewbar.com/2011/06/so-what-is-ensemble-anyway/
[20:04] <SpamapS> genii-around: http://ensemble.ubuntu.com is even better. :)
[20:05] <genii-around> SpamapS: Thanks
[20:06] <hallyn> cmagina: hey, regarding bug 789229, the previous commit to libmultipath/blacklist.c also seems good
[20:06] <hallyn> so unless you say otherwise, i'll use both of those
[20:06] <Daviey> SpamapS: You threw that together to answer my question?
[20:07] <SpamapS> Daviey: thats just how good Ensemble is.
[20:07] <SpamapS> Now hopefully my blog doesn't get *crushed* by the oncoming traffic. ;)
[20:07]  * SpamapS considers rebooting into c1.medium...
[20:09] <hallyn> oh, haha
[20:09] <cmagina> hallyn: yeah, the changes to blacklist.c fixed the issue i was experiencing
[20:09] <hallyn> cmagina: never mind, i was looking without quilt patches applied :)
[20:09] <cmagina> hallyn: heh
[20:10]  * hallyn getting tired, bumps the xterm font up a notch
[21:06] <jcastro> SpamapS: heh, never heard of siege until I read your blog, nice!
[21:17] <SpamapS> jcastro: it blows ab away..
[21:44] <Cheery> what debugging mechanisms are there for dovecot?
[21:44] <Cheery> I'm in middle of situation where I don't get the message body.
[21:45] <CrustyBarnacle> secure permissions for /var/www and publicly accessible?
[21:50] <zombi-> just dont a fresh install of ubuntu server
[21:50] <zombi-> as far as i can see apache is running as www-data but /var/www/ is root:root group/owner
[21:51] <zombi-> is there a good reason its root:root and not www-data:www-data ?
[21:52] <luite> usually apache only needs to read those directories, not own them or write to them :)
[21:54] <Cheery> oh.. dovecot doesn't actually just mess with my mail.. it actually loses it too. interesting
[21:54] <Cheery> well. 'loses'
[21:57] <viezerd> why ?
[21:57] <Cheery> I'm not sure.
[21:58] <Cheery> when postfix throws those things. they just end up nice
[21:58] <Cheery> into new/
[21:58] <Cheery> when I make dovecot fetch through my imap client, it loses them. :)
[21:58] <Cheery> they appear in cur/ -directory with :2 -postfix though
[21:58] <Cheery> but the client doesn't get them ever
[21:59] <Cheery> also refuses to remove those two now. interesting :)
[22:01] <hallyn> ppetraki: cmagina: right now, http://paste.ubuntu.com/617832/ shows the list of fixes which is in natty and oneiric, but not in lucid and maverick.
[22:03] <ppetraki> hallyn, so the only thing that's limiting me from testing this on lucid is machine time, my chassis aren't even mine anymore
[22:03] <hallyn> ppetraki: right, that' swhy those haven't been SRU'd, bc we can't test them sufficiently for those standards
[22:03] <ppetraki> hallyn, I have test -10 with failover and it worked "just as well" as the lucid versions, sans the killer FS bug
[22:04] <hallyn> ppetraki: so I suggest that we go through each of the bugs in that changelog diff,
[22:04] <hallyn> make sure there are SRU justifications, I'll push a package for lucid and maverick with all fixes,
[22:04] <hallyn> and you mark them all verified, bc you've verified them before
[22:04] <hallyn> or maybe we have cmagina test them one more time
[22:05] <ppetraki> hallyn, ok
[22:05] <hallyn> but lucid is gonna be worthless if we don't get those in
[22:05] <hallyn> ok.
[22:05] <ppetraki> lucid are is worthless :-{
[22:05] <hallyn> here i go on a marathon SRU justification writeup :(
[22:05] <hallyn> ssssh
[22:05] <ppetraki> no one knows yet, I know ;)
[22:08] <Cheery> Jun  3 23:59:23 boxbase dovecot: IMAP(cheery): maildir++: root=/home/vmail/cheery, index=, control=, inbox=/home/vmail/cheery
[22:08] <Cheery> huhhuh
[22:08] <ppetraki> hallyn, there may be cross depends with the most recent changes with initramfs
[22:09] <hallyn> really?  I thought it was all self contained?
[22:09] <ppetraki> hallyn, I'll have to test each version and find where it breaks
[22:09] <ppetraki> hallyn, no :(
[22:09] <ppetraki> hallyn, at least not in my experience, I wish I had the versions handy, but it was between the lucid/maverick initramfs + latest mp, and it didnt work
[22:10] <ppetraki> hallyn, *that* I can test, I just can't do failover right now
[22:11] <hallyn> oh, ok - we'll worry about failover when the rest works :)
[22:11] <hallyn> i think i'll beg SpamapS to help with straightening out the final mess
[22:13] <ppetraki> hallyn, ack, i'll take the bisect action in the meanwhile
[22:13] <hallyn> thx
[22:15] <SpamapS> hallyn: eh?
[22:16] <hallyn> SpamapS: multipath.  we haven't had the hw to properly test for SRUs.  So lucid and maverick are missing *7* fixes that are in natty/oneiric.  I'm working on that right now
[22:16] <hallyn> SpamapS: which means I intend to push one upload for lucid (and one for maverick) for all 7 bugs.
[22:17] <hallyn> some (at least one) actually had already made it to verification-done, but the package never got pushed to lucid-proposed I guess, or it got dropped form there by accident.  (not impossible :)
[22:17] <hallyn> anyway, 2 down 5 to go
[22:18] <SpamapS> hallyn: I presume these are not giant patches?
[22:18] <SpamapS> or if they are, they're at least straight forward
[22:19] <hallyn> no, they're not.  most of them came straight from upstream
[22:19] <hallyn> i can pastebin a full debdiff if you like
[22:19] <hallyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/617832/ shows the list of changes
[22:24] <hallyn> ppetraki: feh, on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/multipath-tools/+bug/712840
[22:25] <hallyn> ppetraki: i guess i'll have to skip that one, since there is controversy
[22:25] <hallyn> which makes the whole thing messier
[22:26] <ppetraki> hallyn, if we had to question why debian does everything a certain way...
[22:26] <ppetraki> hallyn, sigh... fine
[22:26] <hallyn> yeah, but we can't change the pathanmes which are in use at an existing site during an SRU update, can we?
[22:27] <hallyn> that'll set us up for public flogging :)
[22:27] <ppetraki> hallyn, well, we mount by UUID, so it'll be transparent
[22:27] <hallyn> we do, but what funky things might the customers do with it?
[22:27] <ppetraki> hallyn, but for folks who actually have an fstab using wwids, that might be bad
[22:28] <hallyn> yeah
[22:28] <hallyn> all right, so all bugs updated, now to come up with a package
[22:28] <ppetraki> I've got a fresh install chugging away
[22:28] <ppetraki> the initramfs fix was backported right?
[22:31] <hallyn> i don't know which your'e talking about,
[22:32] <hallyn> you mean the mp fix, or a related fix to the initramfs sources?
[22:32] <hallyn> in any case, i dunno - the packages are all confused.  the bzr tree history is weird.
[22:34] <ppetraki> hallyn, we'll see if it's a brick after apt-get upgrade then
[22:34] <ppetraki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/687501
[22:35] <ppetraki> hallyn, sigh.. the upload was messed up, resulting in a failed verification
[22:36] <ppetraki> hallyn, so there's no point
[22:36] <ppetraki> :-/
[22:36] <hallyn> which one?
[22:36] <ppetraki> the one I just posted
[22:38] <hallyn> doh
[22:38] <ppetraki> hallyn, so the test lab uses an updated iso, looks like I have all the updates, just installed ubuntu10, we'll see...
[22:40] <ppetraki> hallyn, made it!
[22:41] <hallyn> excellent.
[22:41] <ppetraki> so we can upgrade multipath
[22:42] <ppetraki> grub is still terribly broken
[22:42] <ppetraki> hallyn, https://pastebin.canonical.com/48181/
[22:43] <ppetraki> but we're no more broken than we were before
[22:43] <ppetraki> just don't upgrade your kernel
[22:43] <ppetraki> no biggee right?
[22:44] <ppetraki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/688261
[22:44] <ppetraki> they duped it to the installer bug
[22:44] <hallyn> ppetraki: can you ping SpamapS on that one?  (i'd say cjwatson but he's out)
[22:45] <hallyn> ppetraki: that one needs to get pushed, obviously.
[22:45] <ppetraki> SpamapS, ping
[22:48] <ppetraki> hallyn, should I just move the bug back to incomplete?
[22:49] <SpamapS> ppetraki: pong
[22:49] <ppetraki> SpamapS, could you help me push this update along? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/687501
[22:50] <ppetraki> SpamapS, looks like a procedural  bug, and now it's languishing
[22:50] <hallyn> ppetraki: sorry i'm really not sure.  i'm not even sure what the last comment is referring to in that bug (i.e. why it failed)
[22:50] <hallyn> the verification succeeded,
[22:51] <ppetraki> hallyn, that's weird because I'm not getting the updated package
[22:51] <hallyn> phew, just one mor debdiff to reverse engineer
[22:51] <SpamapS> That one was blocked on a WUBI issue IIRC
[22:52] <hallyn> SpamapS: could an explanation of that be added to the bug, so someone can work on it?
[22:52] <hallyn> it's sort of an important one
[22:53] <ppetraki> SpamapS, it's really a platform for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/688261
[22:53] <SpamapS> hallyn: its right in the comments
[22:53] <hallyn> maybe iw as looking at the wrong bug before then
[22:53] <SpamapS> seems blocked on cjwatson's wubi fixes
[22:53] <hallyn> (i'm not opening that up before i finish this crap)
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[22:53] <hallyn> servers get to hang so wubi will work.  good
[22:55] <hallyn> all RIGHT.  debdiffs applied.
[23:01] <hallyn> ppetraki: wait, is that applied to lucid though?
[23:01] <hallyn> SpamapS: my reading of that comment is that it's ok to push for lucid but not maverick
[23:01] <hallyn> ?
[23:03] <hallyn> ppetraki: if it's only maverick then i'm not particularly worried
[23:05] <ppetraki> hallyn, I'll be optimistic, for once, it would be terrible for this to miss the 10.3 window
[23:06] <SpamapS> hallyn: I'm really completely ignorant of the technical matters at hand.. and I think you'll need to get a +1 from cjwatson and/or pitti before we can move forward on it.
[23:07] <SpamapS> ppetraki: I believe there are 4 weeks left until it freezes.. could be wrong.
[23:08] <hallyn> ok, i'll send cjwatson an email
[23:09] <hallyn> SpamapS: so with apologies, I hand you the SRU nightmare...  proposed packages for lucid and maverick pushed.
[23:09] <SpamapS> hallyn: how many packages?
[23:09] <hallyn> oh, just two :)
[23:10] <SpamapS> ok thats not too bad
[23:10] <hallyn> with 6 changesets/linked-bugs for each
[23:10] <SpamapS> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[23:10] <hallyn> (they're identical)
[23:10] <SpamapS> That may be interesting in helping you guys to track it as a whole.
[23:11] <hallyn> i should probably watch that more closer than i do in general anyway
[23:11] <hallyn> SpamapS: thx, ttyl
[23:33] <FunnyLookinHat> If I install apache2-mpm-prefork - will it erase/overwrite everything I've setup in /etc/apache2/ ?  Or will it simply add the module and replace the necessary apache2 binaries?
[23:39] <zombi-> afaik only if you remove it with --purge option
[23:39] <zombi-> but i would back them up before the reinstall just in case
[23:50] <FunnyLookinHat> zombi-, better question, turns out prefork is already installed...
[23:51] <FunnyLookinHat> So how can I ensure it's being used instead of stock apache ?