[01:28] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Cool Projects That Need Your Help - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/06/03/cool-projects-that-need-your-help/
[08:13] <DJones> Morning all
[08:19] <diplo> Morning all
[08:30] <DJones> Hi diplo
[08:35] <diplo> Quiet in here this morning
[08:36] <DJones> Yes, I was thinking that, one comment between 10pm and 8am, pretty much unheard of
[08:43] <dogmatic69> is it correct to call ubuntu Unix?
[08:44] <bigcalm> No
[08:45] <bigcalm> Ubuntu is a distrabution of Linux which strives to be POSIX compatable
[08:46] <dogmatic69> thats what i thought
[08:47] <dogmatic69> "But if you consider Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX) standards then Linux can be considered as UNIX."
[08:49] <DJones> dogmatic69: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-linux-and-unix/
[08:50] <dogmatic69> DJones: that is where the quote is from
[08:50] <DJones> Heh
[09:01]  * DJones debates whether to buy minecraft having finally got the old version running on my laptop, I didn't think it ran on Intel graphics, but seems ok (if a little slow) with intel hd graphics 
[09:04] <bigcalm> DJones: do it!
[09:09] <DJones> Just need to pick a username that isn't taken
[09:19] <DJones> ok, now bought
[09:20] <MartijnVdS> UNIXish
[09:20] <bigcalm> Now you join the clan in #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :)
[09:20] <DJones> Heh, good point
[10:12] <popey> morning all
[10:18] <Psychobudgie> morning popey
[10:28] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:35] <wintellect> hey brobostigon
[10:35] <brobostigon> hey wintellect
[10:36] <BigRedS> su
[10:36] <BigRedS> gah
[10:36] <BigRedS> confused terminator again :/
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: "I'll be back"
[10:44] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:53] <Ng> BigRedS: ooi in what way is it becoming confused?
[10:59] <BigRedS> Ng: it seems that, after a few goes of adding and removing panes, it 'forgets' where they are
[10:59] <BigRedS> so alt+left might actually go up
[10:59] <BigRedS> er, no, not that bad actuall
[10:59] <Ng> ahh the navigation
[10:59] <BigRedS> alt+up will for a while go to top-left, then at some point start going to top-right
[10:59] <BigRedS> yeah
[10:59] <Ng> I should never have let that in at all, it's too hard to do
[10:59] <BigRedS> I'm always quite amazed that it works at all, so I'm quite accepting of it stopping
[11:00] <BigRedS> no, leave it in!
[11:00] <BigRedS> even buggy, it's invaluable!
[11:01] <BigRedS> I just need to restart it every few weeks, it's no great hardship
[11:01] <BigRedS> or I could just pay attention to what I'm doing
[11:09] <davmor2> morning all
[11:10]  * davmor2 tickles popey and prods czajkowski 
[11:10]  * czajkowski stbas davmor2 
[11:11] <davmor2> wow czajkowski has turned me into saint bas nice
[11:11]  * czajkowski frowns at the keyboard 
[11:11] <czajkowski> stupid spaces between keys
[11:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: only a poor workwoman blames her tools :P
[11:14] <DJones> Wouldn't a poor workwoman have sold her tools to buy food, so couldn't blame the said tools
[11:14] <BigRedS> if she'd sold her tools, she wouldn't be poor any more
[11:15] <davmor2> or a workwoman
[11:15] <DJones> If she didn't have tools, she wouldn't be a workwoman either,
[11:16] <BigRedS> she could use someone else's tools
[11:16]  * bigcalm melts
[11:17] <czajkowski> or can I just blame the mac layout of keys
[11:17] <czajkowski> eh
[11:17] <czajkowski> :)
[11:18] <bigcalm> That's fine. Mac keyboards look nice, work terribly
[11:50] <czajkowski> has anyone had/seen a bug on natty with alt tabbing not working
[11:50] <czajkowski> when they upgraded
[11:52] <BigRedS> I've had the alt-tabbed-to thing raised but not given focus
[11:52] <BigRedS> but thats as broken as I've seen
[11:54] <czajkowski> just wondering on a bug number
[11:54] <czajkowski> had a mate whinge about it
[11:54] <czajkowski> then moved to debian over it
[11:54] <BigRedS> oh, I've not seen a bug for it
[12:15] <gord> czajkowski, sounds like they had a custom compiz setup when upgrading and for some reason the alt tab plugin wasn't selecting in their plugins, not heard of a bug number but honestly its one of those hard to fix ones, if people want to customise compiz they should be able to, even if that means breaking their system ;)
[13:23] <dogmatic69> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora15_v_ubuntu1104&num=1
[13:25] <andylockran> can anyone recommend a photobin website ?
[13:25] <andylockran> like pastebin
[13:25] <jpds> andylockran: imgur.com
[13:26] <DJones> !imagebin
[13:30] <andylockran> thanks
[13:39] <davmor2> andylockran: ubuntu one with http link enabled?
[13:40]  * popey grumbles about ubuntu one being useless when you're behind a proxy
[13:40] <davmor2> popey: I hope you have reported it :)
[13:40] <popey> yes
[13:40] <davmor2> popey: oh and never let up on aq till he fixes it
[13:40] <popey> 2 years ago
[13:41] <popey> bug 387308
[13:48] <brobostigon> ok,where in drupal do i change the allowed file upload size. please.
[13:49] <Azelphur> brobostigon: 6 or 7?
[13:50] <brobostigon> Azelphur: 7
[13:50] <Seeker`> Can anyone recommend a wireless N adaptor that works well with ubnutu?
[13:51]  * Azelphur looks around
[13:51] <gord> in my experience? no
[13:51] <brobostigon> Azelphur: thank you.
[13:52] <Azelphur> brobostigon: are you using any special module for file uloads?
[13:53] <brobostigon> Azelphur: no.
[13:56] <andylockran> can anyone tell me how to detect what display X is running on for a remote machine?
[13:56] <Azelphur> brobostigon: it seems to be set per content type your attaching the file to now, http://drupal.org/documentation/modules/file
[13:56] <shauno> andylockran: I think you can just ls /tmp/.X11-unix/ to see what sockets have been created?
[13:57] <brobostigon> Azelphur: ok, thank you.
[13:58] <andylockran> shauno: that's got X0 in it
[13:59] <davmor2> andylockran: do a dpkg -l | xserver-xorg ?
[13:59] <shauno> so that'd just mean X is on :0 ? (or did I misunderstand the question)
[13:59] <andylockran> lamech ~ # export DISPLAY=:0
[13:59] <andylockran> lamech ~ # xeyes
[13:59] <andylockran> No protocol specified
[13:59] <andylockran> Error: Can't open display: :0
[13:59] <andylockran> ^ should have pastebin'd
[13:59] <andylockran> !pastebin | andylockran
[14:00] <shauno> hm, I wonder if that's an xauth thing
[14:00] <davmor2> andylockran: sorry misread your question
[14:00] <andylockran> davmor2: no problemo
[14:00] <andylockran> I'm just messing around anyways
[14:01] <shauno> I gotta pop out to rescue my package from the post office :/  hopefully someone who's got X in front of them could make more sense of why you can't connect to it
[14:02] <BigRedS> argh. anyone know off the top of their head where sudoers sticks its lock file?
[14:02] <BigRedS> ah. /etc/sudoers.tmp
[14:03]  * popey wonders if Azelphur has made his bitcoin millions
[14:03] <Azelphur> popey: doing quite good so far, building more machines :)
[14:03] <popey> how many machines you got now?
[14:03] <Azelphur> 8
[14:03] <Azelphur> I'm actually doing some trading right now
[14:04] <Azelphur> I just made £112 as we was talking :)
[14:04] <popey> :D
[14:04] <Azelphur> and another 30 :p
[14:05] <Azelphur> just filling the ridiculous price orders, £11.50+ per coin...shiny
[14:05] <MartijnVdS> Thank you for funding the mafia
[14:05] <Azelphur> yw mafia
[14:07] <Azelphur> popey: that said I'm still negative profit atm, but hopefully not for long :)
[14:07] <popey> hah, I'm ahead of you then ;)
[14:08] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:08] <Azelphur> got a very nice new miner design coming, thinking I might sell some of those nice asus boards in here on the cheap :p
[14:09] <popey> can't help but wonder whether you'd have been better off just buying 2K worth of coins
[14:09] <Azelphur> I don't think so, this method provides a constant stream and gives me some physical merchandise should everything go south
[14:30] <BigRedS> ctrl-q closing a window, is that decided by the WM or the app itself?
[14:30] <BigRedS> I'd assumed WM, but the absence of consistency suggests otherwise..
[14:31] <BigRedS> I assumed it was a key combination that just sent the same signal as clicking the 'x'
[14:31] <ormiret> BigRedS: generally the app, but if you  want to you  could mkae the WM catch it and close the app.
[14:31] <ormiret> I think alt-F4 is normally bound to that.
[14:34] <Neoti01> does anyonje in here use askozia ?
[14:34] <Neoti01> PBX for telephoney etc.
[14:34] <popey> 26
[14:34] <popey> BAH!
[14:37] <BigRedS> ormiret: Ah, so alt-f4 is generally what the wm will use, and the app can choose to implement ctrl-q itself
[14:41] <bigcalm> ctrl-w in nano does a search
[14:41] <bigcalm> ctrl-w in firefox closes the tab
[14:41] <bigcalm> Irritating
[14:42] <BigRedS> that's one of the reasons you shouldn't be using nano
[14:42] <bigcalm> :(
q is way more intuitive
[14:43] <BigRedS> er, for quitting
[14:43] <bigcalm> Heh, of course it is
[14:43] <bigcalm> vim offers no on screen help unless you know how to bring it up
[14:43] <BigRedS> yeah, I love that
[14:43] <BigRedS> actually, don't you get told how to if you invoke it with no file?
[14:44] <bigcalm> Yes
[14:44] <bigcalm> "Help poor children in Uganda!
[14:44] <bigcalm> "
[14:44] <bigcalm> Humm, not sure that should be on the welcome screen
[14:45] <BigRedS> ach, nobody ever sees the welcome screen anyway
[14:45] <bigcalm> So nobody will see the help
[14:45]  * bigcalm shrugs
[14:46] <BigRedS> yeah
[14:47] <BigRedS> but it's that old philosophy that for most of the time you're using something you don't need to be told how to use it
[15:52] <cocoa117>  in /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen file there is line multiboot       ${rel_xen_dirname}/${xen_basename} placeholder ${xen_args}
 where xen_args="$6"
 my question is how to set this xen_args?
 in which program? update-grub?
[15:55] <BigRedS> probably in a script in /etc/grub.d
[15:55] <BigRedS> but I've managed to steer clear of doing anything much with gnome2 so far
[15:58] <BigRedS> er, grub
[15:58] <BigRedS> 2
[16:00] <shauno> my ssd arrived \o/  and it's so light it feels fake
[16:01] <BigRedS> haha
[16:14] <gord> shauno, light *and* thin? ;)
[16:14] <gord> my first one i half wondered if it was just empty inside
[16:17] <popey> heh
[16:17] <popey> I just ordered two for my desktop
[16:17] <popey> one for windows, one for ubuntu
[16:17] <shauno> not so much on thin .. it just feels like they left something important out of a 2.5" disk
[16:17] <BigRedS> wasn't there some scam where they were just empty boxes with an SD card with a dishonest partition table taped to the inside?
[16:17] <bigcalm> Yep
[16:17] <popey> heh, yeah
[16:18] <gord> popey, how big did you get the one for windows?
[16:18] <popey> 120G
[16:18] <popey> hope thats enough
[16:18] <popey> also _bought_ a copy of windows 7
[16:18] <popey> i feel sick now
[16:18] <shauno> same size I just got.  should be enough for /
[16:19] <gord> thats my worry with windows too, i only use windows for steam, would struggle to fit my games on less than 250
[16:19] <popey> well, I _might_ leave a spinny disk in there just in case
[16:19] <popey> or I could put one on the esata bus
[16:20] <gord> ubuntu one just destroys any hope of free space on my ssd too :( every time i get a bit of space it greedily gobbles it up
[16:20] <shauno> I'm keeping my hdd for bulky stuff.  music, movies, games, etc
[16:20] <gord> or rather, people updating shares gobble it up
[16:21] <popey> shauno: do you have it spin down?
[16:22]  * popey pokes marxjohnson with uupc
[16:22] <shauno> it should do.  I'll find out when I get home and get to play with this thing :)
[16:22] <popey> ahh
[16:22] <popey> should I encrypt my /home with ecryptfs on ssd?
[16:23] <shauno> for now I'm just unpacking stuff so it'll actually fit in my bag.  they shipped a 2.5" disk in a box that wouldn't fit in my backpack
[16:23] <jpds> Any encryption on a SSD just sounds like overhead.
[16:23] <popey> yeah
[16:27] <gord> i never bother encrypting my desktop, if someone has gotten access to my desktop drives, i have bigger problems
[16:28] <shauno> I have an encrypted disk image I use for stuff that actually matters
[16:28] <shauno> financials, scans of passports, etc.  given than it's a laptop, being paranoid seems sensible
[16:29] <shauno> but whole-disk or home still seems like overkill
[16:30] <shauno> thinking about it, I might see if I can set prey up to nuke it sometime
[16:31] <gord> encrypting your home makes sense when you go around conferences with lots of other people from different companies ;)
[17:08] <danfish> bah! Linode is sucking big time today :(
[17:08] <brobostigon> :(
[17:15] <Myrtti> UK YAY
[17:16] <seeker> :D
[17:16] <seeker> How long for?
[17:16] <Myrtti> about 14 hours
[17:17] <seeker> Not long then
[17:17]  * brobostigon waves @ Myrtti 
[17:17] <Myrtti> quick nap
[17:18] <seeker> Airport -> dsample's -> airport?
[17:28] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jamie Bennett] Time for a new challenge & - http://www.linuxuk.org/2011/06/time-for-a-new-challenge/
[18:58] <davmor2> Hit it ray parker jr
[19:04] <Laney> LCDSS: GREAT
[20:15] <joshuau> hi there
[20:16] <Laney> ello
[20:16] <marxjohnson> hi!
[20:17] <joshuau> hi there... im in isle of man and i'm thinking of getting involved...
[20:17] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: welcome :)
[20:18] <joshuau> no kidding... how do i set up a local team??
[20:19] <joshuau> :-D
[20:19] <marxjohnson> joshuau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: Start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
[20:20] <joshuau> k... ok
[20:20] <joshuau> .. opening
[20:20] <MartijnVdS> Also, borrow lots of ideas from ubuntu-uk and ubuntu-ie
[20:20] <MartijnVdS> (they must have _something_ in common with IoM :)
[20:21] <joshuau> ok good work on the idea so far...
[20:21] <joshuau> seems to be abit of work though...
[20:22] <joshuau> any basic pointers?
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> Find a pub. Find some people. Talk about Ubuntu. :)
[20:23] <marxjohnson> Find people on the isle of man who use ubuntu
[20:23] <joshuau> i'll have a faq/fag while i waiit
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> Is Canonical still registered there? :)
[20:24] <joshuau> should i register a website? if so any ideas for a name? i already have trisquel.im!
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: Start small
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: just some informal pub meetings, arranged on the wiki
[20:24] <joshuau> what wiki?
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> when you have people, you can organise other things (install parties, launch parties, etc.)
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <joshuau> k
[20:25] <MartijnVdS> and really.. read the Howto page
[20:25] <joshuau> ok
[20:25] <joshuau> i will
[20:26] <joshuau> i remember canonical cos it was such a big file in the company registry... heavy stuff.
[20:27] <MartijnVdS> they're behind Ubuntu
[20:27] <joshuau> really? u dont say..
[20:27] <joshuau> soz
[20:28] <joshuau> whats your average user likely to want???
[20:29] <marxjohnson> best to find some and ask them :-) What do you want?
[20:29] <joshuau> ummm...k
[20:30] <joshuau> i feel empowered:-[
[20:30] <marxjohnson> seriously, work out what you want to get out of there being an IoM Loco, and start there
[20:30] <joshuau> some ideas there would be nice
[20:31] <marxjohnson> Well, I'm in the UK LoCo for support, and to meet interesting people
[20:31] <marxjohnson> mainly the latter
[20:31] <marxjohnson> So if I was starting a LoCo, they'd be my priorities
[20:32] <joshuau> what like people who like .... your average coder with a beard etc.
[20:32] <marxjohnson> That's me :-)
[20:32] <MartijnVdS> No beard here
[20:33] <joshuau> really... i use a bic or a gillette encouraged by vlc in the background
[20:34] <joshuau> are there any youtube/other tubes that you'd recommend
[20:34] <joshuau> i likwe twil
[20:35] <joshuau> ?
[20:35] <joshuau> ...
[20:35] <marxjohnson> for what?
[20:35] <joshuau> open source news
[20:35] <marxjohnson> I usually get that from podcasts/twitter
[20:36] <joshuau> mmk
[20:36] <ali1234> slashdot :)
[20:36] <joshuau> mmm...k
[20:36] <ali1234> don't read the comments though
[20:36] <ali1234> nearly as bad as the ones on youtube
[20:36] <joshuau> slashdot... what do i type to get that?
[20:36] <ali1234> srsly?
[20:36] <marxjohnson>  /.
[20:37] <joshuau> opening...trying anyway.
[20:38] <joshuau> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot.com opening
[20:39] <joshuau> got http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot on my tool bar now
[20:41] <joshuau> there r 100's of comments.. any vids??
[20:42] <joshuau> http://slashdot.org/tag/video   ... processing...
[20:43] <joshuau> 1st one's Linux Video Tutorials From 1995... whats with that?????
[20:44] <marxjohnson> the clocks are broken on some of their servers, they're stuck 15 years in the past :-)
[20:44] <joshuau> wow.. the comments r still off the rictor scale.. is iy that good????
[20:45] <Seeker`> joshuau: just out of interest, how old are you?
[20:45] <joshuau> well i was born in the manx millennium if thats any help?
[20:46] <Seeker`> 1979?
[20:46] <joshuau> no shit
[20:46] <MartijnVdS> 2000?
[20:46] <joshuau> no
[20:46] <joshuau> 21
[20:47] <joshuau> q&a??
[20:47] <Seeker`> !l | joshuau
[20:47] <Seeker`> !language | joshuau
[20:48] <joshuau> k  soz
[20:48] <joshuau> ignoance is biss...
[20:49] <Seeker`> I wouldn't know :P
[20:50] <joshuau> dr's do.
[20:51] <Seeker`> what?
[20:51] <joshuau> doctor do... silly.
[20:52] <MartijnVdS> no, Doctor Who :)
[20:52] <joshuau> oh dear .. not a fan.
[20:52] <joshuau> i was waiting for the oh dear.. its all the uk needs
[20:53] <joshuau> :P
[20:53] <Seeker`> What on earth are you whittering about?
[20:54] <joshuau> oh dear
[20:54] <joshuau> i like : Radiohead Helps Fans Make Crowd-Sourced Live Show DVD
[20:54] <joshuau> on slashdot that is
[20:56] <joshuau> no sign of actal vid though
[20:57] <joshuau> screw this i own this idea,,,........ im gonna blossom
[20:57] <Seeker`> screw...what exactly?
[20:59] <joshuau> a teddy from harrods
[20:59] <joshuau> im torrenting the vid from radiohead
[21:00] <Seeker`> which version are you downloading?
[21:00] <joshuau> just maxed the torrent list to 300++
[21:01] <Seeker`> why not use one of the official torrents?
[21:01] <joshuau> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6054800
[21:02] <Seeker`> just watch the 720p version on youtube :P
[21:02] <joshuau> ok
[21:04] <joshuau> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKHJkA8keg
[21:04] <joshuau> it is 22.5 gb
[21:05] <joshuau> dont get into gb
[21:05] <Seeker`> that won't be
[21:05] <Seeker`> the full blu-ray quality one will be
[21:05] <Seeker`> youtube will have compressed it
[21:05] <joshuau> k cool
[21:05] <joshuau> i meant the torrent
[21:05] <Seeker`> I know
[21:06] <Seeker`> the youtube one wont be that big
[21:08] <joshuau> well they seem abit drunk...good old yorke
[21:08] <joshuau> time for a tea
[21:11] <joshuau> i love the way u can skip through it using the comments
[21:11] <matti> ;)
[21:12] <matti> I just realised.
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> abit? are those related to the alot? http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[21:12] <matti> My Ubuntu is 4 years old.
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> matti: "your" Ubuntu?
[21:12] <joshuau> aren't we getting alittle off topic????
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> matti: you called your child Ubuntu!?
[21:12] <matti> MartijnVdS: I mean, the one I installed on my old notebook ;]
[21:12] <matti> MartijnVdS: Haha, no ;d
[21:12]  * matti is child-less.
[21:12] <matti> ;d
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: alittle, is that related to the alot? :)
[21:13] <joshuau> well i like house of cards
[21:13] <matti> 4 years...
[21:13] <matti> ;
[21:13] <matti> ;]
[21:13] <joshuau> tourist trophy is buzzing here at the moment
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> matti: it could have been a kid :P
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> matti: for all the trouble it causes ;)
[21:14] <matti> MartijnVdS: Hehe ;]
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> + damage to social life..
[21:15]  * MartijnVdS randomly points at http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/ again
[21:15] <MartijnVdS> will take a few new ones over the weekend
[21:17] <joshuau> sounds like he's singing about onecric now
[21:18] <matti> MartijnVdS: What should I do, you reckon.
[21:18] <matti> ;]
[21:18] <MartijnVdS> matti: uhm. about what?
[21:18] <matti> MartijnVdS: Old Ubuntu ;/
[21:19] <MartijnVdS> matti: upgrade to a more recent version
[21:19] <joshuau> Martijn vdS' photostream how that relevant??
[21:19] <matti> MartijnVdS: But I feel like a father now, because of you!
[21:19] <matti> ;d
[21:19] <joshuau> did u get a receipt??
[21:19] <MartijnVdS> matti: OK.. it's Friday night.. time enough to become one... :)
[21:20] <matti> MartijnVdS: Hehe.
[21:21] <matti> MartijnVdS: In my cast that would mean chopping my hand of and waiting to another me to grow ;]
[21:21] <joshuau> really sucks forv content huh?
[21:21] <MartijnVdS> matti: Your cast? You broke something?
[21:21] <MartijnVdS> matti: Scars = instant win :)
[21:22] <joshuau> whast u think???
[21:22] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: hm?
[21:22] <joshuau> dont get any big ideas...
[21:22] <joshuau> rhead good at mo.
[21:23] <MartijnVdS> you're not making any sense, sorry
[21:23] <matti> MartijnVdS: Haha
[21:23] <joshuau> i do find that people , like hear are evil people.
[21:25] <joshuau> Does anyone actually used trisquel?
[21:25] <joshuau> well its rice tonite!
[21:26] <Seeker`> joshuau: isn't that a little off topic?
[21:27] <joshuau> oh just found the mayonnaise to have in between chatting here.... lovely.
[21:28] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: cleverbot, is that you?
[21:28] <joshuau> no i'm another bot entirely
[21:28] <Seeker`> ah, well bots get banned
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: harsh :) we love lubotu3
[21:29] <joshuau> no its my sirname stupid
[21:29]  * Seeker` eyes lubotu3 
[21:29] <joshuau> who the heck is lubot3?
[21:30] <MartijnVdS> joshuau: he's our pet robot
[21:30] <MartijnVdS> !botsnack
[21:30] <Seeker`> we;ve got him working on a phaser gun atm
[21:31] <joshuau> really? i programmed myself.. and your answer won't fit on my website... ur stuffed.
[21:31] <MartijnVdS> !txtspk
[21:31] <MartijnVdS> !txt
[21:31] <joshuau> well my dad does txts but i use skype
[21:32] <joshuau> i like jpeg200 though0
[21:32] <MartijnVdS> !topic
[21:32] <joshuau> jpeg 2000 that is
[21:33] <joshuau> ha your all stuffed now rnt u???
[21:34] <Seeker`> joshuau: how so?
[21:34] <joshuau> anyone read about dopof?
[21:34] <Seeker`> joshuau: How exactly are we all "stuffed"?
[21:37] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: like teddy bears?
[21:37] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: we all want to hug him
[21:37] <Seeker`> O.o
[21:39] <joshuau> really.. i just accept the barclays bank
[21:40] <joshuau> can i have a biger hug please
[21:41] <Seeker`> joshuau: so what version of ubuntu do you use?
[21:41] <joshuau> well let me see i down loaded it last week so i guess the latest
[21:42] <joshuau> from ubuntu.com or whatever
[21:42] <joshuau> but i use cutter choice more often
[21:43] <joshuau> ~WINNING
[21:45] <joshuau> #WINNING
[21:46] <Seeker`> what?
[21:47] <joshuau> ANYONE GET INTO THIS JUICY BIT:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Print_Order_format
[21:48] <Seeker`> joshuau: please stop the trolling now, its getting boring
[21:48] <joshuau> k rice is ready in 25mins cool it..
[21:48] <popey> +1
[21:49] <Seeker`> popez?
[21:49] <joshuau> seriously anyone read my link?
[21:49] <popey> joshuau: why are you here?
[21:50] <joshuau> to have generational wealth
[21:50] <joshuau> ?
[21:51] <joshuau> man... you guys are weak.
[21:51] <Seeker`> please can you explain what you mean by that joshuau ?
[21:55] <dwatkins> What a strange trolling.
[22:01] <michael__> Hi
[22:01] <popey> hello
[22:01] <michael__> Hi do you speak German or English?
[22:02] <michael__> Well are you using Ubuntu?
[22:03] <popey> I am
[22:03] <popey> I only speak English, sorry.
[22:03] <popey> !de
[22:04] <michael__> Well sorry. Ich wusste das nicht
[22:04] <michael__> nice. English
[22:04] <michael__> i prefer it too
[22:04] <michael__> well i am new here
[22:05] <michael__> first time
[22:05] <michael__> I trying get my head around KDE or Gnome
[22:05] <michael__> what is better
[22:05] <michael__> ?
[22:05] <popey> !best
[22:05] <popey> try them both and see for yourself
[22:06] <michael__> as a Desktop environment
[22:06] <michael__> tried it
[22:06] <michael__> both nice
[22:06] <popey> personally I prefer GNOME, others like KDE
[22:06] <michael__> i use gnome shell
[22:06] <michael__> at the moment
[22:06] <brobostigon> i personally prefer gnome3/gnome-shell.
[22:06] <brobostigon> :)
[22:07] <brobostigon> a brother,
[22:07] <michael__> used gnome for long time
[22:07] <brobostigon> oops.
[22:07] <michael__> they have unity updates
[22:08] <michael__> did not like it
[22:08] <michael__> how do you change the theme etc.
[22:08] <michael__> nothing to see in system settings
[22:09] <michael__> on ubuntu Gnome3/gnome-shell
[22:09] <michael__> brother
[22:09] <michael__> for another mother :)
[22:11] <michael__> are there any girls in this chat room?
[22:11] <popey> yes
[22:11] <michael__> really
[22:11] <popey> why wouldn't there be?
[22:11] <michael__> does not look like it
[22:11] <popey> Women use computers too
[22:12] <brobostigon> michael__: ther eis a twaek tool in the gnome3-teams ppa, that wil let you change thoise things within gnome3/gnome-shell.
[22:12] <michael__> just wondering
[22:12] <michael__> do not think that they like to use computers
[22:12] <michael__> woman do not think that they like to use computers
[22:12] <michael__> woman or girls do not think that they like to use computers
[22:13] <michael__> woman or girls. they do not like to use computers
[22:13] <michael__> normally
[22:13] <michael__> popey you are women?
[22:14] <popey> You are making incorrect assumptions
[22:14] <brobostigon> michael__: dat macht kein sinn, medchen nutzten auch computer, und et gibt keine, grenze hier in england.
[22:14] <popey> brobostigon: english please
[22:14] <brobostigon> popey: sorry.
[22:14] <popey> michael__: women are people who use computers just the same as men do.
[22:14] <michael__> what is application called to tweak the theme?
[22:15] <michael__> brobostigen
[22:15] <popey> michael__: which environment?
[22:15] <michael__> gnome 3/ gnome-shell
[22:15] <michael__> nice
[22:15] <popey> pass, i dont use it. brobostigon does
[22:15] <michael__> to know
[22:15] <brobostigon> michael__: its is something like gnome tweak tool, something like that.
[22:15] <michael__> they girls i know. they dont like too
[22:16] <michael__> the girls which i know. they dont like too
[22:17] <brianb__> anyone seen the preview of windows 8 and the touch screen - how will ubuntu look in a few years time ?
[22:17] <popey> yeah, interesting video that windows 8 one
[22:20] <brianb__> what do you think then will ubuntu/open source be able to offer an alternative to windows 8?
[22:20] <popey> no idea
[22:20] <popey> ask a designer
[22:22] <brianb__> well guess dev work must start with intergration of touch displays and guesters
[22:24] <shauno> if the goal 2-3 year is "to look/act like windows 8", linux is already dead :p
[22:24] <dwatkins> michael__: that doesn't mean all girls are like that, though
[22:25]  * popey does a global s/girls/women/ on this channel
[22:25] <michael__> well you prove it
[22:26] <popey> we dont need to prove it
[22:26] <michael__> windows 8 is really nice looking
[22:26] <popey> you're the one making duff assertions
[22:26] <brianb__> but apple will be ahead if microsoft
[22:26] <michael__> hope ubuntu becomes a advanced Unix system
[22:26] <brianb__> and that will be on BSD
[22:27] <michael__> Mac is nice
[22:27] <michael__> is quite restricted i think
[22:27] <michael__> but runs smooth
[22:28] <michael__> Well log on Skype and show me how you use the computer
[22:28] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Dominic Watkins] Useful tip for GNU Screen to make it use a login shell - http://rowla.dyndns.org/blog/2011/06/03/useful-tip-for-gnu-screen-to-make-it-use-a-login-shell/
[22:28] <michael__> screenshare
[22:28] <michael__> nice feature
[22:29]  * popey wanders off to play portal 2
[22:29] <michael__> BSD looks nice haven't tried it
[22:29] <michael__> runs shitty in a virtualbox
[22:29] <shauno> I'm having fun trying to figure out what goes on the sdd & what stays on the spindle now
[22:30] <popey> hehe
[22:30] <popey> shauno: on which os?
[22:30] <shauno> osx
[22:30] <popey> ah
[22:30] <shauno> I just found steam hiding away eating up 50-odd Gb.  on a 120Gb disk, that's a rather unwelcome guest
[22:31] <michael__> steam no doesn't do that
[22:31] <popey> yeah, i need to clear out all my old games
[22:32] <michael__> that would be a good solution
[22:32] <shauno> it's just gonna be a case of figuring out which things benefit from the faster disk, and which don't
[22:32] <michael__> well are you able play counter strike on it
[22:32] <michael__> without trouble
[22:32] <shauno> (and which get hit often enough that even if they don't benefit, should be on sdd so hdd can spin down)
[22:33] <brianb__> anyone had problems installing ubuntu 10.4 10.10 onto a ssd drive?
[22:33] <brianb__> i think there are some issues
[22:33] <michael__> did any try use HD cable
[22:33] <michael__> with ubuntu
[22:34] <brianb__> yeah
[22:34] <michael__> and ?
[22:34] <brianb__> i tryed to instal both versions to a ssd hard drive
[22:34] <michael__> I got screen resolution max 1200x...
[22:35] <michael__> well to big for my screen
[22:35] <michael__> and went over the edge
[22:35] <brianb__> came to the conclusion theres a bug
[22:35] <michael__> and yours?
[22:35] <michael__> :( bug
[22:35] <ali1234> i've used ubuntu with hdmi and dvi at HD+ resolutions
[22:35] <michael__> and ?
[22:36] <ali1234> works fine, but i have a nice monitor, not a TV
[22:36] <michael__> a bug too ali
[22:36] <brianb__> i could instal mandriva ok on a ssd hard disk but not ubuntu
[22:36] <michael__> Well I have a TV
[22:36] <michael__> monitor
[22:36] <michael__> 23 inch
[22:37] <michael__> well
[22:37] <michael__> does ubuntu break Optical drives
[22:37] <michael__> after a while
[22:37] <brobostigon> no,
[22:38] <michael__> my one broke
[22:38] <brobostigon> michael__: by which failiure?
[22:39] <michael__> any cool software that any would like to recommend
[22:39] <ali1234> apport :)
[22:39] <michael__> takes the disk reads and hangs
[22:39] <michael__> apport?
[22:39] <michael__> for what you use that?
[22:40] <ali1234> debugging crashes
[22:40] <brobostigon> michael__: apport is bug reporting software.
[22:40] <michael__> oh OK
[22:40] <michael__> any other programs girls
[22:40] <ali1234> it does more than just reporting, actually, it's very useful tool for debugging also :)
[22:40] <michael__> really i guess should install it and try it out
[22:41] <brobostigon> ali1234: ah, ok, sorry,  that seems to be all i see of it,
[22:41] <ali1234> brobostigon: it processes crash dumps too, and installs debug symbols and such, very handy
[22:41] <michael__> have it already installed
[22:41] <brobostigon> ali1234: sounds it, yes,
[22:41] <michael__> noob
[22:42] <brobostigon> michael__: yes,it is as standard in ubuntu.
[22:42] <michael__> well did you try hand break
[22:42] <michael__> is really good
[22:43] <michael__> decoding and encrypting DVD etc...
[22:43] <michael__> read about
[22:43] <michael__> forgotten most of the stuff which i reas
[22:43] <michael__> forgotten most of the stuff which i read
[22:43]  * brobostigon likes blender for video editing, after various point in that direction,
[22:44] <michael__> I think openshot has a bit nicer GUI
[22:45] <ali1234> linux still lacks a decent motion graphics tool that can do things like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQO-aOdJLiw
[22:47] <ali1234> sure, you *could* use blender... if you wanted to spend several years on it :)
[22:48] <brobostigon> ali1234: i have had enought time, yes. and still done get it fully.
[22:49] <ali1234> brobostigon: even if you know all blender UI, it simply lacks the tools you'd need to make that video
[22:49] <brobostigon> ali1234: but i meant, fo that basic editing, noothingmore.
[22:50] <ali1234> yes, there's plenty of video editors for linux
[22:50] <ali1234> motion graphics however is a lot more complex... think of it as photoshop but with videos
[22:50] <brobostigon> interesting.
[22:51] <michael_UK> really good to know that
[22:51] <michael_UK> motion graphics
[22:51] <michael_UK> cool
[22:52] <michael_UK> I watched the priest
[22:52] <michael_UK> did any one else watch it
[22:53] <michael_UK> ?
[22:53] <michael_UK> girls huehue
[23:08] <shauno> seems there's a downside to this weather.  I believe this headache is caffiene withdrawl, from drinking water all day :(
[23:41] <hamitron> shauno: why not drink coffee?
[23:42] <shauno> I am now :)
[23:44] <hamitron> good lad :)
[23:50] <Laney> wow
[23:50] <Laney> an incredible amount of sirens going past
[23:50] <Laney> must have been 10 in the last couple of minutes
[23:55] <chris99> past where?