[01:28] [Jono Bacon] Cool Projects That Need Your Help - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/06/03/cool-projects-that-need-your-help/ [08:13] Morning all [08:19] Morning all [08:30] Hi diplo [08:35] Quiet in here this morning [08:36] Yes, I was thinking that, one comment between 10pm and 8am, pretty much unheard of [08:43] is it correct to call ubuntu Unix? [08:44] No [08:45] Ubuntu is a distrabution of Linux which strives to be POSIX compatable [08:46] thats what i thought [08:47] "But if you consider Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX) standards then Linux can be considered as UNIX." [08:49] dogmatic69: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-linux-and-unix/ [08:50] DJones: that is where the quote is from [08:50] Heh === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chr1sccoulson [09:01] * DJones debates whether to buy minecraft having finally got the old version running on my laptop, I didn't think it ran on Intel graphics, but seems ok (if a little slow) with intel hd graphics [09:04] DJones: do it! [09:09] Just need to pick a username that isn't taken === eightbitraptor_ is now known as eightbitraptor [09:19] ok, now bought [09:20] UNIXish [09:20] Now you join the clan in #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) [09:20] Heh, good point === denny- is now known as denny [10:12] morning all === seeker_ is now known as seeker [10:18] morning popey [10:28] good morning everyone. [10:35] hey brobostigon [10:35] hey wintellect [10:36] su [10:36] gah [10:36] confused terminator again :/ [10:36] BigRedS: "I'll be back" [10:44] aloha [10:53] BigRedS: ooi in what way is it becoming confused? [10:59] Ng: it seems that, after a few goes of adding and removing panes, it 'forgets' where they are [10:59] so alt+left might actually go up [10:59] er, no, not that bad actuall [10:59] ahh the navigation [10:59] alt+up will for a while go to top-left, then at some point start going to top-right [10:59] yeah [10:59] I should never have let that in at all, it's too hard to do [10:59] I'm always quite amazed that it works at all, so I'm quite accepting of it stopping [11:00] no, leave it in! [11:00] even buggy, it's invaluable! [11:01] I just need to restart it every few weeks, it's no great hardship [11:01] or I could just pay attention to what I'm doing [11:09] morning all [11:10] * davmor2 tickles popey and prods czajkowski [11:10] * czajkowski stbas davmor2 [11:11] wow czajkowski has turned me into saint bas nice [11:11] * czajkowski frowns at the keyboard [11:11] stupid spaces between keys [11:13] czajkowski: only a poor workwoman blames her tools :P [11:14] Wouldn't a poor workwoman have sold her tools to buy food, so couldn't blame the said tools [11:14] if she'd sold her tools, she wouldn't be poor any more [11:15] or a workwoman [11:15] If she didn't have tools, she wouldn't be a workwoman either, [11:16] she could use someone else's tools [11:16] * bigcalm melts [11:17] or can I just blame the mac layout of keys [11:17] eh [11:17] :) [11:18] That's fine. Mac keyboards look nice, work terribly [11:50] has anyone had/seen a bug on natty with alt tabbing not working [11:50] when they upgraded [11:52] I've had the alt-tabbed-to thing raised but not given focus [11:52] but thats as broken as I've seen [11:54] just wondering on a bug number [11:54] had a mate whinge about it [11:54] then moved to debian over it [11:54] oh, I've not seen a bug for it === imexil1 is now known as imexil [12:15] czajkowski, sounds like they had a custom compiz setup when upgrading and for some reason the alt tab plugin wasn't selecting in their plugins, not heard of a bug number but honestly its one of those hard to fix ones, if people want to customise compiz they should be able to, even if that means breaking their system ;) === seeker_ is now known as seeker [13:23] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora15_v_ubuntu1104&num=1 [13:25] can anyone recommend a photobin website ? [13:25] like pastebin [13:25] andylockran: imgur.com [13:26] !imagebin [13:26] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [13:30] thanks [13:39] andylockran: ubuntu one with http link enabled? [13:40] * popey grumbles about ubuntu one being useless when you're behind a proxy [13:40] popey: I hope you have reported it :) [13:40] yes [13:40] popey: oh and never let up on aq till he fixes it [13:40] 2 years ago [13:41] bug 387308 [13:41] Launchpad bug 387308 in Ubuntu One Client "HTTPS Proxy Support for file sync" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387308 [13:48] ok,where in drupal do i change the allowed file upload size. please. [13:49] brobostigon: 6 or 7? [13:50] Azelphur: 7 [13:50] Can anyone recommend a wireless N adaptor that works well with ubnutu? [13:51] * Azelphur looks around [13:51] in my experience? no [13:51] Azelphur: thank you. [13:52] brobostigon: are you using any special module for file uloads? [13:53] Azelphur: no. [13:56] can anyone tell me how to detect what display X is running on for a remote machine? [13:56] brobostigon: it seems to be set per content type your attaching the file to now, http://drupal.org/documentation/modules/file [13:56] andylockran: I think you can just ls /tmp/.X11-unix/ to see what sockets have been created? [13:57] Azelphur: ok, thank you. [13:58] shauno: that's got X0 in it [13:59] andylockran: do a dpkg -l | xserver-xorg ? [13:59] so that'd just mean X is on :0 ? (or did I misunderstand the question) [13:59] lamech ~ # export DISPLAY=:0 [13:59] lamech ~ # xeyes [13:59] No protocol specified [13:59] Error: Can't open display: :0 [13:59] ^ should have pastebin'd [13:59] !pastebin | andylockran [13:59] andylockran, please see my private message [14:00] hm, I wonder if that's an xauth thing [14:00] andylockran: sorry misread your question [14:00] davmor2: no problemo [14:00] I'm just messing around anyways [14:01] I gotta pop out to rescue my package from the post office :/ hopefully someone who's got X in front of them could make more sense of why you can't connect to it [14:02] argh. anyone know off the top of their head where sudoers sticks its lock file? [14:02] ah. /etc/sudoers.tmp [14:03] * popey wonders if Azelphur has made his bitcoin millions [14:03] popey: doing quite good so far, building more machines :) [14:03] how many machines you got now? [14:03] 8 [14:03] I'm actually doing some trading right now [14:04] I just made £112 as we was talking :) [14:04] :D [14:04] and another 30 :p [14:05] just filling the ridiculous price orders, £11.50+ per coin...shiny [14:05] Thank you for funding the mafia [14:05] yw mafia [14:07] popey: that said I'm still negative profit atm, but hopefully not for long :) [14:07] hah, I'm ahead of you then ;) [14:08] hehe [14:08] got a very nice new miner design coming, thinking I might sell some of those nice asus boards in here on the cheap :p [14:09] can't help but wonder whether you'd have been better off just buying 2K worth of coins [14:09] I don't think so, this method provides a constant stream and gives me some physical merchandise should everything go south === airurando_ is now known as airurando [14:30] ctrl-q closing a window, is that decided by the WM or the app itself? [14:30] I'd assumed WM, but the absence of consistency suggests otherwise.. [14:31] I assumed it was a key combination that just sent the same signal as clicking the 'x' [14:31] BigRedS: generally the app, but if you want to you could mkae the WM catch it and close the app. [14:31] I think alt-F4 is normally bound to that. [14:34] does anyonje in here use askozia ? [14:34] PBX for telephoney etc. [14:34] 26 [14:34] BAH! [14:37] ormiret: Ah, so alt-f4 is generally what the wm will use, and the app can choose to implement ctrl-q itself [14:41] ctrl-w in nano does a search [14:41] ctrl-w in firefox closes the tab [14:41] Irritating [14:42] that's one of the reasons you shouldn't be using nano [14:42] :( [14:43] :q is way more intuitive [14:43] er, for quitting [14:43] Heh, of course it is [14:43] vim offers no on screen help unless you know how to bring it up [14:43] yeah, I love that [14:43] actually, don't you get told how to if you invoke it with no file? [14:44] Yes [14:44] "Help poor children in Uganda! [14:44] " [14:44] Humm, not sure that should be on the welcome screen [14:45] ach, nobody ever sees the welcome screen anyway [14:45] So nobody will see the help [14:45] * bigcalm shrugs [14:46] yeah [14:47] but it's that old philosophy that for most of the time you're using something you don't need to be told how to use it === seeker_ is now known as seeker [15:52] in /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen file there is line multiboot ${rel_xen_dirname}/${xen_basename} placeholder ${xen_args} [15:52] where xen_args="$6" [15:52] my question is how to set this xen_args? [15:52] in which program? update-grub? [15:55] probably in a script in /etc/grub.d [15:55] but I've managed to steer clear of doing anything much with gnome2 so far === Mara__ is now known as foomeister [15:58] er, grub [15:58] 2 [16:00] my ssd arrived \o/ and it's so light it feels fake [16:01] haha [16:14] shauno, light *and* thin? ;) [16:14] my first one i half wondered if it was just empty inside [16:17] heh [16:17] I just ordered two for my desktop [16:17] one for windows, one for ubuntu [16:17] not so much on thin .. it just feels like they left something important out of a 2.5" disk [16:17] wasn't there some scam where they were just empty boxes with an SD card with a dishonest partition table taped to the inside? [16:17] Yep [16:17] heh, yeah [16:18] popey, how big did you get the one for windows? [16:18] 120G [16:18] hope thats enough [16:18] also _bought_ a copy of windows 7 [16:18] i feel sick now [16:18] same size I just got. should be enough for / [16:19] thats my worry with windows too, i only use windows for steam, would struggle to fit my games on less than 250 [16:19] well, I _might_ leave a spinny disk in there just in case [16:19] or I could put one on the esata bus [16:20] ubuntu one just destroys any hope of free space on my ssd too :( every time i get a bit of space it greedily gobbles it up [16:20] I'm keeping my hdd for bulky stuff. music, movies, games, etc [16:20] or rather, people updating shares gobble it up [16:21] shauno: do you have it spin down? [16:22] * popey pokes marxjohnson with uupc [16:22] it should do. I'll find out when I get home and get to play with this thing :) [16:22] ahh [16:22] should I encrypt my /home with ecryptfs on ssd? [16:23] for now I'm just unpacking stuff so it'll actually fit in my bag. they shipped a 2.5" disk in a box that wouldn't fit in my backpack [16:23] Any encryption on a SSD just sounds like overhead. [16:23] yeah [16:27] i never bother encrypting my desktop, if someone has gotten access to my desktop drives, i have bigger problems [16:28] I have an encrypted disk image I use for stuff that actually matters [16:28] financials, scans of passports, etc. given than it's a laptop, being paranoid seems sensible [16:29] but whole-disk or home still seems like overkill [16:30] thinking about it, I might see if I can set prey up to nuke it sometime [16:31] encrypting your home makes sense when you go around conferences with lots of other people from different companies ;) [17:08] bah! Linode is sucking big time today :( [17:08] :( [17:15] UK YAY [17:16] :D [17:16] How long for? [17:16] about 14 hours [17:17] Not long then [17:17] * brobostigon waves @ Myrtti [17:17] quick nap [17:18] Airport -> dsample's -> airport? [17:28] [Jamie Bennett] Time for a new challenge & - http://www.linuxuk.org/2011/06/time-for-a-new-challenge/ [18:58] Hit it ray parker jr [19:04] LCDSS: GREAT [20:15] hi there [20:16] ello [20:16] hi! [20:17] hi there... im in isle of man and i'm thinking of getting involved... [20:17] joshuau: welcome :) [20:18] no kidding... how do i set up a local team?? [20:19] :-D [20:19] joshuau: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto [20:19] joshuau: Start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto [20:20] k... ok [20:20] .. opening [20:20] Also, borrow lots of ideas from ubuntu-uk and ubuntu-ie [20:20] (they must have _something_ in common with IoM :) [20:21] ok good work on the idea so far... [20:21] seems to be abit of work though... [20:22] any basic pointers? [20:23] Find a pub. Find some people. Talk about Ubuntu. :) [20:23] Find people on the isle of man who use ubuntu [20:23] i'll have a faq/fag while i waiit [20:24] Is Canonical still registered there? :) [20:24] should i register a website? if so any ideas for a name? i already have trisquel.im! [20:24] joshuau: Start small [20:24] joshuau: just some informal pub meetings, arranged on the wiki [20:24] what wiki? [20:24] when you have people, you can organise other things (install parties, launch parties, etc.) [20:24] wiki.ubuntu.com [20:25] k [20:25] and really.. read the Howto page [20:25] ok [20:25] i will [20:26] i remember canonical cos it was such a big file in the company registry... heavy stuff. [20:27] they're behind Ubuntu [20:27] really? u dont say.. [20:27] soz [20:28] whats your average user likely to want??? [20:29] best to find some and ask them :-) What do you want? [20:29] ummm...k [20:30] i feel empowered:-[ [20:30] seriously, work out what you want to get out of there being an IoM Loco, and start there [20:30] some ideas there would be nice [20:31] Well, I'm in the UK LoCo for support, and to meet interesting people [20:31] mainly the latter [20:31] So if I was starting a LoCo, they'd be my priorities [20:32] what like people who like .... your average coder with a beard etc. [20:32] That's me :-) [20:32] No beard here [20:33] really... i use a bic or a gillette encouraged by vlc in the background [20:34] are there any youtube/other tubes that you'd recommend [20:34] i likwe twil [20:35] ? [20:35] ... [20:35] for what? [20:35] open source news [20:35] I usually get that from podcasts/twitter [20:36] mmk [20:36] slashdot :) [20:36] mmm...k [20:36] don't read the comments though [20:36] nearly as bad as the ones on youtube [20:36] slashdot... what do i type to get that? [20:36] srsly? [20:36] /. [20:37] opening...trying anyway. [20:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot.com opening [20:39] got http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot on my tool bar now [20:41] there r 100's of comments.. any vids?? [20:42] http://slashdot.org/tag/video ... processing... [20:43] 1st one's Linux Video Tutorials From 1995... whats with that????? [20:44] the clocks are broken on some of their servers, they're stuck 15 years in the past :-) [20:44] wow.. the comments r still off the rictor scale.. is iy that good???? [20:45] joshuau: just out of interest, how old are you? [20:45] well i was born in the manx millennium if thats any help? [20:46] 1979? [20:46] no shit [20:46] 2000? [20:46] no [20:46] 21 [20:47] q&a?? [20:47] !l | joshuau [20:47] !language | joshuau [20:47] joshuau: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [20:48] k soz [20:48] ignoance is biss... [20:49] I wouldn't know :P [20:50] dr's do. [20:51] what? [20:51] doctor do... silly. [20:52] no, Doctor Who :) [20:52] oh dear .. not a fan. [20:52] i was waiting for the oh dear.. its all the uk needs [20:53] :P [20:53] What on earth are you whittering about? [20:54] oh dear [20:54] i like : Radiohead Helps Fans Make Crowd-Sourced Live Show DVD [20:54] on slashdot that is [20:56] no sign of actal vid though [20:57] screw this i own this idea,,,........ im gonna blossom [20:57] screw...what exactly? [20:59] a teddy from harrods [20:59] im torrenting the vid from radiohead [21:00] which version are you downloading? [21:00] just maxed the torrent list to 300++ [21:01] why not use one of the official torrents? [21:01] http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6054800 [21:02] just watch the 720p version on youtube :P [21:02] ok [21:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKHJkA8keg [21:04] it is 22.5 gb [21:05] dont get into gb [21:05] that won't be [21:05] the full blu-ray quality one will be [21:05] youtube will have compressed it [21:05] k cool [21:05] i meant the torrent [21:05] I know [21:06] the youtube one wont be that big [21:08] well they seem abit drunk...good old yorke [21:08] time for a tea [21:11] i love the way u can skip through it using the comments [21:11] ;) [21:12] I just realised. [21:12] abit? are those related to the alot? http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html [21:12] My Ubuntu is 4 years old. [21:12] matti: "your" Ubuntu? [21:12] aren't we getting alittle off topic???? [21:12] matti: you called your child Ubuntu!? [21:12] MartijnVdS: I mean, the one I installed on my old notebook ;] [21:12] MartijnVdS: Haha, no ;d [21:12] * matti is child-less. [21:12] ;d [21:12] joshuau: alittle, is that related to the alot? :) [21:13] well i like house of cards [21:13] 4 years... [21:13] ; [21:13] ;] [21:13] tourist trophy is buzzing here at the moment [21:14] matti: it could have been a kid :P [21:14] matti: for all the trouble it causes ;) [21:14] MartijnVdS: Hehe ;] [21:14] + damage to social life.. [21:15] * MartijnVdS randomly points at http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/ again [21:15] will take a few new ones over the weekend [21:17] sounds like he's singing about onecric now [21:18] MartijnVdS: What should I do, you reckon. [21:18] ;] [21:18] matti: uhm. about what? [21:18] MartijnVdS: Old Ubuntu ;/ [21:19] matti: upgrade to a more recent version [21:19] Martijn vdS' photostream how that relevant?? [21:19] MartijnVdS: But I feel like a father now, because of you! [21:19] ;d [21:19] did u get a receipt?? [21:19] matti: OK.. it's Friday night.. time enough to become one... :) [21:20] MartijnVdS: Hehe. [21:21] MartijnVdS: In my cast that would mean chopping my hand of and waiting to another me to grow ;] [21:21] really sucks forv content huh? [21:21] matti: Your cast? You broke something? [21:21] matti: Scars = instant win :) [21:22] whast u think??? [21:22] joshuau: hm? [21:22] dont get any big ideas... [21:22] rhead good at mo. [21:23] you're not making any sense, sorry [21:23] MartijnVdS: Haha [21:23] i do find that people , like hear are evil people. [21:25] Does anyone actually used trisquel? [21:25] well its rice tonite! [21:26] joshuau: isn't that a little off topic? [21:27] oh just found the mayonnaise to have in between chatting here.... lovely. [21:28] joshuau: cleverbot, is that you? [21:28] no i'm another bot entirely [21:28] ah, well bots get banned [21:29] Seeker`: harsh :) we love lubotu3 [21:29] no its my sirname stupid [21:29] * Seeker` eyes lubotu3 [21:29] who the heck is lubot3? [21:30] joshuau: he's our pet robot [21:30] !botsnack [21:30] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [21:30] we;ve got him working on a phaser gun atm [21:31] really? i programmed myself.. and your answer won't fit on my website... ur stuffed. [21:31] !txtspk [21:31] !txt [21:31] well my dad does txts but i use skype [21:32] i like jpeg200 though0 [21:32] !topic [21:32] Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic [21:32] jpeg 2000 that is [21:33] ha your all stuffed now rnt u??? [21:34] joshuau: how so? [21:34]