[00:02] <jgould> I think it's the Mac that screws this up...
[00:04] <canthus13> Cheri703: Here's a s'more for ya... http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-national/coolest-s-mores-ever-picture
[00:04] <Cheri703> ha, nice
[00:06] <Unit193> canthus13: Good one!
[00:09] <canthus13> http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/3ccf6578f4/grooming-in-the-keys?rel=by_user
[00:09] <canthus13> I'd be afraid of what would happen if I hit a bump...
[00:10] <jgould> Me too, canthus13
[00:26] <Cheri703> that's why you use a battery-powered rechargeable shaver...
[00:27] <Cheri703> vs a straight blade...
[00:31] <jgould> but the recharageble isn't as close of a shave
[00:32] <jgould> Back after bit
[00:33] <Unit193> Howdy skellat/SMK!
[00:34] <skellat> Howdy
[00:34] <Cheri703> I love having to tell people the same thing multiple times -_-
[00:35] <Cheri703> neighbor just texted me "my internet isn't working"
[00:35] <Cheri703> I told her 2 days ago that she needed to call time warner. I'd set her up to (temporarily) use ours, and when I asked if she had called tw, she's like, "no" >.<
[00:37] <Cheri703> so I'm not setting her up to use ours anymore...
[00:50] <dmcglone1> Hi all
[00:55] <Unit193> dmcglone1: No!
[00:55] <dmcglone1> Ah you'll live!
[00:57]  * dmcglone1 is playing with wireshark
[00:57]  * Unit193 is port scanning dmcglone1 
[00:57] <dmcglone1> You wish
[00:57] <dmcglone1> :-)
[00:58]  * dmcglone1 is sitting inside Unit193's network
[00:59] <dmcglone1> Unit193: what are you using for port scanning?
[01:00] <Unit193> Nope, I just checked the logs
[01:00] <Unit193> dmcglone1: I wasn't really (I could...)
[01:00] <dmcglone1> but what do you use?
[01:02] <Unit193> I should use zenmap, but I'm using Angry IP Scanner
[01:05] <dmcglone1> Im using nmap, I'm gonna look at Zenmap and angry ip scanner :-)
[01:10] <Cheri703> so mansfield is having a budget crisis, so they're only opening 2 of the 4 city pools...NEITHER of the pools are on a bus line...one is closer than the other, but still quite a hike (on a road with no sidewalks)...this will NOT encourage kids to get to the pool during the summer...
[01:10]  * Cheri703 is going to call the parks department and point this out
[01:11] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: who said anything about kids???? ;-)
[01:12] <Cheri703> ok, nvm, one of them might be on a bus route
[01:13] <skellat> Every community has a budget crisis right now.  I'm still in shock at the gold-plated package civil servants in Ashtabula City get where they pay nothing for their health care and have no deductibles.
[01:16] <Cheri703> :/
[01:18] <skellat> Ashtabula City's been teetering on the edge of bankruptcy for a while already...all they need is just a nudge to go off the cliff
[01:25] <dmcglone1> I did a port scan on my computer and it came up nothing
[01:28] <dmcglone1> Unit193: port scan me
[01:29] <dmcglone1> Huh?? everybody is leaving, did I say something? LOL
[01:31] <Unit193> dmcglone1: I'm doing so...
[01:32] <Unit193> jgould has issues...
[01:35] <dmcglone1> what do you mean he's got issues? computer issues?
[01:35] <dmcglone1> Unit193: anything on that scan yet?
[01:36] <Unit193> Router...
[01:36] <Unit193> Not yet
[01:36] <dmcglone1> I'm looking at zenmap right now
[01:37] <dmcglone1> it said I needed root privilages to run it
[01:37] <BiosElement> Wow, this youtube-style site for uploading funny pics seems it's ok to call someone who wants his work removed a fag. I wonder how their DMCA safe harbor will last after they pull that. >.> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/funnyjunk-vs-the-oatmeal.ars
[01:39] <dmcglone1> Unit193: Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[01:39] <dmcglone1> Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.21 seconds
[01:39] <dmcglone1>            Raw packets sent: 16 (640B) | Rcvd: 0 (0B)
[01:40] <BiosElement> Major sites keep their protection by remaining neutral and removing it when they 'know' about it, so I suspect claiming you'll remove it and then turning around and not doing so is a really stupid way to negate your own protection.
[01:40] <dmcglone1> :-)
[01:42] <BiosElement> I look forward to AnonOps noticing these idiots haha, they're acting like Anon...but with no style. *sighs*
[01:42] <Cheri703> the update at the end was nice BiosElement
[01:42] <Cheri703> about changing "the oatmeal" to "the fag" -_-
[01:42] <BiosElement> Yep, very nice Cheri703. In fact I suspect it could make them complicit in it, making them liable
[01:43] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:43] <BiosElement> They'd have been better off ignoring him.
[01:43] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:44] <BiosElement> Checking their site now, to see if it's legit or not, though Ars usually does good.
[01:44] <BiosElement> Oh dear god their site sucks
[01:45] <BiosElement> Welp, I did a google for it but it seems "the fag" is a popular name for every other link.
[01:45] <BiosElement> No results for the oatmeal though haha
[01:45] <BiosElement> Google cache to the rescue
[01:46] <jgould> well that was fucking nice
[01:47] <BiosElement> Yeah, I can see why he wouldn't want his work there hah, it's like a wannabe 4chan.
[01:48] <dmcglone1> what happened jgould?
[01:48] <jgould> the network hiccuped
[01:49] <dmcglone1> Oh
[01:51] <BiosElement> Cheri703: Finally a sane comment on Ars "IF they did not know before (playing ignorance or not) they sure as hell know about him now and and future situations they cannot use that excuse."
[01:51] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:51] <Cheri703> it's so dumb
[01:51] <Cheri703> I try to give attribution if I repost things...
[01:52] <Unit193> dmcglone1: You have port 21?
[01:52] <dmcglone1> really?
[01:53] <dmcglone1> My scan came up nothing Hmmmm I wonder why
[01:53] <dmcglone1> 21 is ftp isnt' it
[01:53] <Unit193> Is that all you have open? Do you have that open?
[01:53] <Unit193> Yep!
[01:53] <dmcglone1> My scan came up empty
[01:53] <dmcglone1> what tool did you use Unit193?
[01:54] <jgould> dmcglone1: are you scanning from teh outside in or seeing what's open on the local machine
[01:54] <dmcglone1> I'm using my actual IP
[01:55] <jgould> so you are checking to see what you have open through the router from teh outside in.
[01:55]  * Cheri703 is bored
[01:56] <jgould> Me too Cheri703, but I also don't feel well
[01:56] <Cheri703> sorry to hear that
[01:56]  * Cheri703 needs a project...if I had been able to get to the thrift store, I'd be working on a book-safe
[01:57] <Unit193> dmcglone1: The tool I told you about
[01:57] <jgould> My projects involve writing the bookto put into your booksafe
[01:58] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I'm using zenmap, it's not finding anything
[01:58] <Cheri703> that'd be the nook I'm going to get :)
[01:58] <Cheri703> I also may be getting some www.shapelock.com soon, so will be playing with that at some point
[01:58] <jgould> yeah
[01:59] <Cheri703> I do think it'd be fun to find a book that I can get an ebook of, so I can store the book on the ereader that will be stored in the book :D
[01:59] <BiosElement> Ahh awesome. Skype's protocol got cracked, though the reason that microsoft can't update it is because of existing skype hardware...I don't think microsoft would care about burning customers much >.<
[01:59] <jgould> XD
[02:01] <Unit193> BiosElement: They will just do it again...
[02:01] <BiosElement> Unit193: It won't suprise me, skype has always been F/OSS hostile
[02:01]  * dmcglone1 doesn't use skype
[02:02] <jgould> I'm going to lay down... I may be back, I may not. I don't know yet.
[02:02] <Unit193> Now that Microsoft has it...
[02:02] <BiosElement> I only use it because I have little choice, similar to facebook. But then I'm not 'that' paranoid
[02:02] <BiosElement> Unit193: Then they'll have to answer to the customers who bought tons of skype hardware
[02:38] <Unit193> Just to let you know, Ubuntu Tennessee lost one of their own: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/2011/tributes/ubuntu-tennessee-remembers-chibihogoshino/
[03:03] <dmcglone1> When that day comes where your talking to your child and you think they've matured; have they matured or have you unknowingly built up a tolerance? :-D
[03:09] <canthus13> Cheri703: Hard-drive safe.
[03:09] <Cheri703> ?
[03:09] <canthus13> Cheri703: You open up a dead drive, take the insides out, and either use the screws to close it back up, or put a hinge on it.
[03:10] <canthus13> http://www.instructables.com/id/Broken-Hard-drive-safe/
[03:10] <Cheri703> not big enough!
[03:10] <canthus13> Admittedly instructables sucks...
[03:10] <canthus13> Not even an old full-size 5.25" hard drive?
[03:12] <dmcglone1> thats cool though
[03:14] <Cheri703> nah, the nook is 6.5x5
[03:14] <Cheri703> I did see a sweet hdd clock one time
[03:21] <canthus13> Stick it inside an old atari 2600. :)
[03:29] <Cheri703> ha, not really portable...
[03:30]  * Cheri703 was on the phone with mom...
[05:09] <Unit193> Adios, dmcglone1
[05:10] <canthus13> Heh.
[05:12] <Unit193> I was right wasn't I?
[05:23] <Unit193> Howdy, jandrusk
[05:23] <jandrusk> Howdy.
[05:24] <jandrusk> What's happening?
[05:24] <Unit193> Not much right now...
[05:26] <Cheri703> o/
[05:27]  * Cheri703 is watching some movie
[05:27] <jandrusk> Anything good?
[05:27] <Cheri703> don't know yet, don't have high hopes though
[05:27] <Unit193> The welcome committee has arrived!
[05:28] <Cheri703> me?
[05:28] <jandrusk> ?
[05:28] <Cheri703> jandrusk: are you new to ubuntu-ohio or have you been around for a while?
[05:29]  * Cheri703 doesn't recognize your nick
[05:29] <jandrusk> Yes, brand new. Just ran across the LocOhio from a planet Ubuntu post.
[05:30] <Unit193> jandrusk: Did you just join the Launchpad group tonight? (tnseditor)
[05:30] <Cheri703> Ah, welcome!
[05:30] <jandrusk> Yes, I just applied.
[05:30] <Cheri703> where are you located?
[05:30] <jandrusk> Thanks.
[05:30] <jandrusk> Wickliffe
[05:31] <Cheri703> that's cool :) I'm in mansfield
[05:31] <jandrusk> Sweet.
[05:32] <Cheri703> the NEO folks are pretty cool, they're discussing right now whether to add more ubuntu hours in the area
[05:33] <Cheri703> feel free to add yourself to our map! http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/map/user
[05:33] <Cheri703> we're trying to get an idea of where people are (general is completely fine)
[05:33] <Cheri703> though you don't have to
[05:34] <jandrusk> Sure, I'll add my location.
[05:36] <jandrusk> Would like to see a stronger Ubuntu presence in Cleveland.
[05:36] <Cheri703> Unit193: do you remember how to put in a link on the wiki pages? what the proper form for it is? (hyperlink if that matters)
[05:37] <Cheri703> i.e. different text than the link itself
[05:37]  * Cheri703 is editing the ReLoCo page slightly
[05:37] <Unit193> Cheri703: It's at the bottom of the edit page...
[05:37] <Cheri703> oh, k
[05:37]  * Cheri703 may not have looked >.>
[05:38] <Unit193> Example: [[http://webchat.freenode.net/|webchat]]
[05:40] <Cheri703> I added a link to the calendar, they talk about ubuntu hours, but then have no info about them...take a look, what do you think of how I worded it?
[05:41] <Unit193> Cheri703: There is a link at the top (of the website)
[05:41] <Cheri703> jandrusk: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[05:41] <Cheri703> well, yeah, but still
[05:41]  * Cheri703 is a fan of links in context
[05:41] <jandrusk> Oh about 5 or 6 years.
[05:42] <Cheri703> not at the top of the wiki page
[05:42] <Cheri703> that's cool :)
[05:42] <Unit193> Cheri703: Do you think we need more than just U-H?
[05:42] <Cheri703> we as a whole state or we as mansfield?
[05:42] <Unit193> State (Just looking at the thing only has U-H)
[05:43] <Cheri703> I'm planning to participate in the loco team week class thing in july
[05:43] <Cheri703> get some ideas and such :)
[05:43] <Cheri703> yeah, I think that's up to each area...
[05:43] <Unit193> But it's fine how it is...
[05:43] <Cheri703> we saw the difficulty in having a "big" gathering...
[05:49] <Cheri703> I'm going to barnes & noble tomorrow to play with the new nook :)
[05:50] <jandrusk> Guy at work put Android on his nook and loves it.
[05:56] <Unit193> Android? Nice...
[05:57] <jandrusk> Yup. Well going to sleep for the night. Will talk to you all later.
[05:57] <Cheri703> night
[05:57] <Cheri703> glad you found the group!
[05:57] <jandrusk> Me too.
[13:22]  * jgould falls in
[13:24] <jgould> My new phone should be here today. It's at the local sort facility already
[13:31] <jgould> I wish I could just drive over and get it
[13:35] <Derath-Srvr> Hi all
[13:43] <jgould> Morning Derath-Srvr
[13:58] <jgould> must have been too boring for him
[14:07] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[14:13] <thafreak> Anyone looking for jobs in columbus area?
[14:14] <thafreak> Some recruiter decided to email me...
[14:17] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[14:17] <Derath-Srvr> There's 5 positions in my company as well
[14:28] <thafreak> So, did I miss the discussion on linux kernel version 3.0 yet?
[14:28] <thafreak> Good chance ubuntu 11.10 might ship with 3.0...
[14:30] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[14:31] <Derath-Srvr> I've lost my logs, apparently my server crashed/powered down twice last night
[14:32] <jgould> I'm always looking for a job...
[14:32] <jgould> Are we going to skip 2.8?
[14:35] <Derath-Srvr> ntst.com
[14:36] <thafreak> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/29/204
[14:36] <thafreak> yeah I guess
[14:37] <jgould> what do you do, Derath-Srvr...
[14:37] <thafreak> I think because it's close to the 20 year mark
[14:37] <jgould> I remember using a 2.2 kernel all those years ago
[14:37] <thafreak> Email this recruiter jgould bhaarala@appliedperformance.com
[14:40] <jgould> What is he recruiting for?
[14:40] <thafreak> i dunno...all kinds of technical jobs
[14:41] <thafreak> lots of various programming...some network stuff...sysadmin you name it
[14:43] <jgould> I have no peices of paper that say I have any clue,
[14:54] <Derath-Srvr> brb
[15:04] <Derath-Srvr> so, basically installation, configuration, and support (to a point) of the software
[15:19] <jgould> I think my friends with the broken truck have made progress as they are in Progress PA
[15:50]  * jgould wishes his new phone would show up already....
[16:01] <deejoe> jgould: how did you convince them finally to exchange it?
[16:03] <jgould> I didn't I took the upgrade path that they offered.  Not the device I wanted, but it's a good comprimise
[16:06] <deejoe> oh, sorry.
[16:07] <deejoe> so you doubled down
[16:08] <jgould> Eh?
[16:16] <deejoe> jgould: you extended a relationship with a company that has supplied you with a problematic product, and that has treated you poorly.
[16:16] <deejoe> as a way of "resolving" the problem, because they waited you out.
[16:16] <deejoe> which is not to say that I blame you, just that it's a funny sort of compromise.
[16:28] <jgould> It's not AT&T,  it's RIM's Shitty product. RIM having me do the same thing taht AT&T did already gets old.
[16:38] <jgould> I was already leaning toward something else when the contract was up in August anyway. They just gave me an early upgrade
[16:47]  * jgould reads things about switching from BB to Android
[16:49] <thafreak> http://yfrog.com/j8gm4j
[16:54] <jgould> Why did someone print a bunch of tweets on a dot matrix printer
[16:56] <thafreak> It's actually a live printer
[16:56] <thafreak> prints the tweets as they're tweeted
[16:56] <thafreak> who knows why people do stuff with old tech...
[17:01] <jgould> Thats a waste of paper
[17:02]  * jgould looks at the server that is running a P4...
[17:08] <Cheri703> aaargh
[17:09] <Cheri703> I was told that my UDS reimbursement should hit by today, it has not, I just got a call from B&N that they have my nook held at the front and can only hold it til tomorrow, I am about $30 SHORT of what I need to buy it as far as currently available funds -_- dang it
[17:13] <jgould> Cheri703: I know what that's like
[17:13] <Cheri703> so frustrating. I'm more irritated at canonical, they said 10 days, today is 10 business days
[17:13] <jgould> Would someone tell the fedex man to hurry up...
[17:13] <jgould> Call Canonical?
[17:14] <Cheri703> I emailed the lady, but she's in europe, so it's after 5pm there, so not anticipating a response....
[17:15] <canthus13> Cheri703: Why do you always show up twice in my chat list in facebook..?
[17:15] <canthus13> Cheri703: If they're french, 10 business days might be several months...
[17:16] <Cheri703> :/
[17:16] <Cheri703> my dad is unsympathetic to my cause...
[17:16] <Cheri703> anyone want to loan me $30? to be repaid when my UDS money comes?
[17:18] <jgould> I spent my $30 on a new phone so I could stop futzing with a phone and have it get out of the way and just work...
[17:20] <jgould> Where is Canonical located?
[17:20] <Cheri703> not sure where the accounting department is
[17:21] <Cheri703> I did get a response (which surprised me)
[17:21] <Cheri703> she said they confirmed it'd either get processed today or monday
[17:21] <Cheri703> so....now the game of chicken...
[17:22] <jgould> I wonder how the chickens feel about us playing chicken...
[17:22]  * Cheri703 has seen chickens run into each other...
[17:22] <Cheri703> so...
[17:28] <Cheri703> rawr
[17:29] <Cheri703> bah, I'm supposed to be getting on a bus in 30 minutes...
[17:47] <canthus13> Cheri703: Ever seen the chicken collider in minecraft?
[17:47]  * Cheri703 doesn't play minecraft
[17:47] <canthus13> Cheri703: I don't either, but the video is freakin' hilarious. :)
[17:47] <canthus13> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0XN00Wy7Rs
[18:05] <jgould> Heh
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> Woohoo! Looks like I can attend the next Cols UH :)
[19:32] <Derath-Srvr> And might bring a co-worker with me
[19:50] <Unit193> So you will be sitting there with only your co-worker?
[19:55] <canthus13> I never realized how much of a resource hog Gnome is until I started using openbox....
[20:32] <jgould> Derath-Srvr: What was the name of that podcast software?
[20:39] <jgould> You can't sync smart playlists from Banshee to an Android phone?
[21:00] <jgould> Never mind
[21:14]  * canthus13 wants to set up a script that watches for new routers to pop up in the area, then secures them before the owner can. :)
[21:27] <jgould> Ouch.  That would be mean
[21:29] <Unit193> canthus13: Just play with this http://76.5.97.118
[21:31] <canthus13> Eh? The password was already in my browser?
[21:32] <Unit193> Yep! Just hit the login button (And ignore twice)
[21:32] <canthus13> jgould: I routinely secure open routers on people.  If I"m nice, and I can get to a printer, I'll print their key out for them.
[21:33] <canthus13> Unit193: WHose router is that?
[21:33] <Unit193> canthus13: No idea....
[21:33] <Derath-Srvr> Carcast
[21:34] <canthus13> carcast?
[21:34] <Unit193> It's a DSL from Embarq
[21:34] <canthus13> Hmm...
[21:34] <Unit193> Carcast = podcast for jgould
[21:34] <canthus13> I should figure out how to tunnel through it.
[21:35] <jgould> thank you
[21:37] <canthus13> Hmm.. for a zyxel, it's got some pretty nifty features...
[21:37] <Unit193> http://76.5.111.208 Doesn't have the default pass
[21:38] <canthus13> No way to set up a VPN on it, though. :/
[21:39] <canthus13> ...I could hijack DNS on it...
[21:39] <Unit193> Telnet :P
[21:41] <canthus13> Unit193: telnet doesn't allow me to tunnel through the router and probe the network on the other side... DNS tunneling might, if I can get it to work.
[21:42] <Unit193> canthus13: I know that
[21:43] <Unit193> Teach me o great and powerful master! :P
[21:47] <canthus13> Meh. I am *NOT* lookin forward to June 8th.
[21:47] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[21:48] <canthus13> IPv6 day.
[21:48] <canthus13> It's gonna generate a lot of calls.
[21:48] <Derath-Srvr> Final transition???
[21:48] <Unit193> I don't think RR supports it yet...
[21:49] <canthus13> Derath-Srvr: No. it's a test... supposedly, it won't break IPv4, but I'm guessing it will.
[21:50] <canthus13> http://www.worldipv6day.org/
[21:56] <Derath-Srvr> Interesting...
[21:56] <Derath-Srvr> Somehow I think it'll go the same route as WinXP... lol
[21:56] <Derath-Srvr> Supported for even longer (since it has been a few times already)
[22:05] <canthus13> I dunno. We're pretty much out of addresses.
[22:05] <canthus13> NAT is a crappy solution.
[22:06] <Derath-Srvr> Weekend time! Laters all
[22:11] <jgould> waht is a weekend
[22:11] <Unit193> canthus13: Still having fun with it?
[22:12] <canthus13> NOpe. taking calls. :/
[22:13] <canthus13> jgould: it's those days that are busy as hell because other people aren't working and have time to bug the crap out of those of us that *DO* work.
[22:28] <Unit193> canthus13: Ohhhh!! http://24.166.64.176  admin:motorola
[22:29] <Cheri703> whose is that Unit193?
[22:30] <Unit193> Cheri703: No idea... Should I?
[22:31] <Unit193> canthus13: It has port forwarding on it!
[22:31] <canthus13> Unit193: Admin account doesn't allow you to change anything. you need root (Which, coincidentallu defaults to motorola for the password as well...)
[22:31] <canthus13> Unit193: Of course it does. It's a wireless router.
[22:31] <canthus13> It's a really crappy and easily brickable modem/router...
[22:33] <Unit193> This one isn't open http://24.166.64.242/live.html Drat!
[23:00] <jgould> What are you guys doing?
[23:01] <Unit193> ...playing
[23:02] <Unit193> Blasted sports stream won't load....
[23:11] <canthus13> If this is real, it's AWESOME.  http://www.picshag.com/chewbacca-yearbook-quote.html
[23:12] <jgould> Anyone know where the Android phones stores pictures on the SD card?
[23:13] <canthus13> jgould: On the bottom.
[23:17] <jgould> :P
[23:18] <jgould> What directory?
[23:19] <canthus13> Not sure... mebbe Cheri703 will know.
[23:19] <Cheri703> hrm?
[23:19] <Cheri703> oh, let me check
[23:19] <Cheri703> probably dcim (just guessing)
[23:20] <Cheri703> yeah, DCIM
[23:20] <jgould> I've got Camera uder DCIM, but what if I want to drop pictures on the phone
[23:20] <Cheri703> probably just toss them in the same folder
[23:36] <canthus13> jgould: email them to yourself and save 'em.
[23:36] <jgould> I dropped them into DCIM. They are all the wrong resolution though...
[23:46] <jgould> Back in a bit
[23:48] <Cheri703> if I added a ppa, and there is an updated version of a program in that ppa, why would it not show up in the package list?
[23:48] <Unit193> Did you reload packages?
[23:49] <Cheri703> yeah
[23:49] <Cheri703> a few times
[23:50] <Cheri703> now uninstalling to see if anything changes