| astraljava | Well, in oneiric, there doesn't seem to be a task called ubuntustudio-desktop. | 13:24 |
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| scott-work | hmmm, where is alessio (abogani)? he hasn't been on for a few days | 13:26 |
| scott-work | i wanted to talk to him about his new kernel :( | 13:26 |
| scott-work | astraljava: was there a task 'ubuntustudio-desktop' in natty? | 13:27 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Yes, it can be found in /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc | 13:28 |
| astraljava | hrmpf | 13:29 |
| scott-work | hmmm, here is the code for it in launchpad: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.oneiric/view/head:/desktop | 13:29 |
| astraljava | tasksel isn't installed in a default chroot | 13:29 |
| astraljava | hrmpf again, now even after installing tasksel, and seeing it in ubuntu-tasks.desc, it still can't find it | 13:31 |
| astraljava | works for ubuntu-desktop^, though | 13:33 |
| scott-work | cjwatson has a directory that shows all the tasks but i cannot remember it's link | 13:36 |
| scott-work | if we could determine that it wasn't in his list (which is what goes into the images i believe) then we might determine he needs to update his list | 13:37 |
| scott-work | however, i wonder if this is due to the gnome2 -> unity/gnome3, gtk2 -> gtk3, or gdm -> lightdm transitions? | 13:38 |
| astraljava | Okay. Well I asked on #ubuntu+1, let's see if someone has an idea. | 13:39 |
| astraljava | Ha! It doesn't work in natty either. | 13:40 |
| scott-work | this is crazy, i greatly underestimated the extent of changes we will need for gnome2 -> xfce :/ | 13:42 |
| scott-work | looking at the desktop seed i make uneducated determinations that many, many packages will need to be replaced | 13:42 |
| scott-work | today/this weekend i really need to talk to the xubuntu guys and then hopefully look at their seeds to compare ours vs. theirs | 13:43 |
| astraljava | scott-work: I concur. Which is why we absolutely need to discuss this in the meeting. | 13:43 |
| scott-work | i've been relying on cory to handle this as i thought he really understood it better than i | 13:43 |
| scott-work | however, given the scope of the change, it probably would behoove all if at least one other person were to assist | 13:43 |
| astraljava | scott-work: I will try to assist in this as best I can. | 13:44 |
| scott-work | astraljava: that would be awesome! thank you :) | 13:45 |
| astraljava | scott-work: First I need to understand why this tasking doesn't work for us at all. | 13:47 |
| scott-work | astraljava: it might need to work since it is already included by default for an installation | 13:48 |
| scott-work | we don't won't the user to be given a choice whether to install or not install the -dekstop task | 13:48 |
| scott-work | by the way, astraljava, is there a desktop-common task? | 13:48 |
| scott-work | nevermind, i think it should be ubuntustudio-desktop | 13:50 |
| scott-work | in situations like this i find that persia is extremely helpful and knowleable ;) | 13:51 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Yes I understand that, however I fail to see why ubuntustudio-desktop task cannot be found from the same place where ubuntu-desktop can, and also is installable. | 13:53 |
| astraljava | scott-work: apt-get plain doesn't recognize the task at all. | 13:53 |
| * scott-work sighs and is going into another meeting in an increasing number of meetings lately | 13:56 | |
| astraljava | scott-work: Hang in there! :) | 13:57 |
| * ckontros runs through the channel naked. | 14:38 | |
| * charlie-tca covers eyes | 14:39 | |
| ckontros | charlie-tca: So do you throughly understand you xubuntu-settings package? The studio-settings package is a bit easier as it's mostly setting gconf keys. xubuntu-settings is more tricky. | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, lordy no | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | I don't understand a lot of the stuff that happens. | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | I just know who to ask, I think. | 15:22 |
| ckontros | charlie-tca: So you're more a coordinator for the project then? | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | yes. I just try to keep everything coordinated and moving in a direction most helpful to the project | 15:23 |
| * charlie-tca is not a developer | 15:23 | |
| holstein | charlie-tca: thats refreshing to hear, since you get a lot done as a non-developer | 15:24 |
| ckontros | Gotcha. That's useful also. Herding cats and all. :P | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that's it | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | I seem to be one of those volunteers that knows very little about coding and packaging, but has learned a few things here and there. | 15:25 |
| ckontros | Pretty much how I started. But sometimes necessity takes over and you gotta learn how to hack a bit. | 15:25 |
| ckontros | charlie-tca: So who in your camp would be best and willing to review my converting the xubuntu-settings package for Studio use? | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit is the best dev we got, micahg is learning fast, though | 15:27 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit can be hard to nail down sometimes, but if he will do it, he knows the most. | 15:27 |
| ckontros | charlie-tca: Ok. I think I've talked to mr_pouit a bit actually. Maybe through #ubuntu-artwork. | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | Anything is possilbe. I asked him to help you out | 15:42 |
| ckontros | Ok. Time for food. scott-work. We still on to hack on Sunday? | 15:42 |
| ckontros | charlie-tca: I don't need it this now. Maybe after Sunday after Scott and I have gone through the pkg a bit then mr_pouit can check our work. :) | 15:44 |
| ckontros | bbs | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | That's fine | 15:44 |
| scott-work | ckontros: i'm good for sunday, we have a team meeting as well that day | 16:41 |
| ckontros | scott-work: What times good for you? | 16:45 |
| scott-work | i think it should be most of the day, ckontros | 16:49 |
| scott-work | i *might* have to take the kids to the state park on sunday, however | 16:50 |
| ckontros | scott-work: Oh sure sure. Start time is what Im after. | 16:50 |
| scott-work | earlier in the morning would be better then | 16:50 |
| scott-work | i could do it around 6:00 or 7:00 am CST | 16:50 |
| ckontros | 8 am our time is the earliest start I can do. | 16:51 |
| scott-work | ckontros: you are EST, right? that would put it at 7am for me | 16:52 |
| ckontros | scott-work: I thought you were in Jersey? Why did I think that? :) | 16:53 |
| scott-work | ckontros: do you feel like you have a good feel for what needs to be done? i was looking at the xubuntu desktop seeds as well and there are many things to change in there as well | 16:53 |
| scott-work | ckontros: no, i'm actually in texas | 16:53 |
| ckontros | scott-work: Did you move? I'm nuts I guess. :P | 16:54 |
| scott-work | ckontros: the only time i haven't lived in texas was when i was in the marine corps | 16:54 |
| scott-work | and then i lived in various places around the world | 16:54 |
| ckontros | scott-work: Im nuts then. :) Ok. So what I usually do is look @ their -desktop package and the depends. Remove the stuff we know we dont want. Research the stuff we're unsure of and add the stuff we do know. :) | 16:55 |
| scott-work | ckontros: sounds like a good plan then | 16:57 |
| ckontros | scott-work: Its one of the things I wanna try to tackle on Sun. Though, our new -settings pkg has to hit before we push the new seed changes. | 16:58 |
| scott-work | right | 16:59 |
| scott-work | ckontros: if you are in a position to talk about the seeds today, we could do it in about 30 mins | 17:15 |
| * scott-work can leave work for the day at this point | 17:15 | |
| ckontros | scott-work: Talk yeah. Im not in a position to start hacking. :) | 17:16 |
| scott-work | ckontros: i'd say let's wait then until we are completely ready then | 17:18 |
| ckontros | sure sure. Really, I'm off today and having a bit of a Shaw Bros. movie marathon. :P Just not in the right mindset atm. | 17:20 |
| ckontros | Hi-def version of "The Five Venoms" FTW. \m/ | 17:24 |
| * scott-work is going home and dorking around abit before picking up the kids | 17:26 | |
| holstein | ScottL: do we have admin rights to the mailing list? | 18:32 |
| holstein | steve miers is either spamming, or has been hacked it seems | 18:32 |
| astraljava | holstein: Scott and Jussi have admin rights. | 19:24 |
| ScottL | holstein, which account is there spamming? i | 19:36 |
| ScottL | i'm not seeing any at the moment | 19:36 |
| ScottL | ah, they're all going to my spam box | 19:37 |
| ScottL | right | 19:37 |
| holstein | ScottL: probably not a big deal, but something that should be addressed if possible | 19:48 |
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